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Plural construction, the renowned journalistic program of political analysis and current in its twentieth
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season, with the leadership of Fernando Mauri and a team of prestigious analysts listen
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to it on radio train topic. Our President was born in Argentina, Dr
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Raviero Mirey was president hello everyone. There is no stabilization plan, not good,
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but the delay to change. There' s a problem of currency arrears
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here. It is impossible to achieve the zero deficit in the twenty- four
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thousand. Ah well. It' s very little motasia. There is already
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a lot of equatoria, but you are not liberal. There were taxes as
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well as no, but I add one plus three hundred sixty- five times
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and it gives me three sixty s not being able if there is no video
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and there is not you who invited me to I' m fede your noodle
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Cotuk. They want to know how the economy is going to grow, it
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' s going to go up like a diver' s fart. But there
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' s no anchor. Well, because there' s no comprehensive plan.
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But you should set the path. This is not a liberal government because it
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did not release the drug. Not because there is appreciation to change. I
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have changed appreciation, but in low- priced freedom. How are you,
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my friends, very, very good afternoon. Here we are in plural construction
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averaging the week and we have a long program of two hours one hundred and
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twenty minutes to meet different voices. Sergio des lost a little while was our
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first interlocutor, then Daniel Kip. But with this issue of public limited companies
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in football and there is also this request for punishment or repentance of players because
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they sing with or or against racism. Well, we' ll also be
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with our friend Gustavo fra el coupe so, our correspondent in North America,
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speaking also a little bit the one who represented the selection in almost sociological terms,
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and we' ll listen to close audios of friend Alejandro Rosman. Like
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every week he talks to us about fear of an eventual dust, the blue
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gives the note again. One thousand four hundred sixty- five goes up sixty
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pesos a day. Let us remember that they had closed the week of 1,
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500 interventions of gouerno market under all the luber counted with Liqui. The
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glu reached one thousand three hundred ninety- five. If I' m not
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wrong to close on Monday on errand Tuesday. In a thousand four hundred five
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and today it is in a thousand four sixty- five ube sixty mangoes,
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he counted on a like also goes up, but very little two thousand three
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hundred ten. They lie in the distance between the freedorm, the blue,
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and the one with liquid, one thousand four hundred sixty- five, and
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one thousand three hundred and ten. The MEP is coming This is strange.
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Counted with liqui and up two percent to one thousand three hundred five. And
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the risk country is also that it has been doing the note since Monday and
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this one is worried. One thousand six hundred and five goes up one thirty
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- one thousand six hundred and five. These aren' t weights, obviously,
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they' re stitches. What it has to do with the government'
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s bond justification. De choa this is potorno two to remember the economist of
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the consultant of our usual consulted Orlando Ferreres Nespotorno. The government of choa Tevi
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caragozaan another economic adviser who had questioned the official program. Thirty years after the
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temptation to Lambia there is a great Argentine threat zone. Te General will make
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him regret his exclusive enmity the complete declaration of the uroline, that is,
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in this case very lucid of this loban boy who has been missing for more
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than thirty long days and will, as he said here, be having the
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team of a case of trafficking. I' m sure he' d be
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centifified. The Rosada House will invite the missing Governor to sign the May event.
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It refers to the Santa Crucelio Vidal, but not to the Villarreal victory.
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I say this, it seems that there is a boi operation because it
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falls mature than Villarreal, that they do not want to give it prominence and
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that it is that same night. It' s strategically that Tuesday night they
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went on Monday night eight, midnight after dawn nine. He didn' t
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want to be there claiming Obebre and then took part in that July 9 military
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parade. The court grants him the home prison of the French rangvers accused of
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rape in Mendoza and well there goes a little information. As I tell you,
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I already have it on line with Sergio' s friend de piera,
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a famous fan of speed. I' m going to say hello, Don
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Sergio, or good afternoon, how he' s doing is mutated and he
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' s mutating how the man is. Pergeo to see if it' s
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there, we' re, we' re obova sar how you hear to
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see now you' re there. I don' t know if you'
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re listening to me, you' re mutated. But I don' t
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listen to you, uh, Juan, we don' t hear anything.
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No, it' s not just me. It' s not on the
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air, no. No. That' s where you hear me. Now,
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yes, now, yes, cha, now, yes, for nothing
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else. Good afternoon. Well, all right, this way, all right.
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Okay. I' m happy good seven times long already management, my
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law some initial wear and tear in terms of how much public opinion, but
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of the markets of the economic model both radio we radiographed a bit the management
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with you how you are seeing it now and I don' t know without
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venturing forward, but being a diagnosis of the present. It seems to me
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the most important novelty of these last days are the criticisms of the sectors that
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trust him to some extent, who feel close to his program and who thus
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begin to make announcements. Let us say to the future that with these measures
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the economic situation will not work. So the criticisms of economists. The departure
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of Cana Ocean' s consulting economist, who got fired today, tourist things
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that I have in the most good nation, marks at least one novelty.
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Let' s say no, the criticisms are no longer from the opposition sector,
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let' s say from the perionism, but there is beginning to be
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more substantive criticisms and not so, let' s say, loose, but
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argued by sectors that feel histologically about Miley' s political and economic configuration.
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How you see him. Suppose I don' t know how much crisis I
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say, but well it' s all the markets go on. Miley already
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made a statement on the U S weekend, when not saying good comes in
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the week. It was spoken until August as turbulence, a financial stability,
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as he has assumed it in some way. I don' t know what
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I' d call him in the face of a crisis. I do not
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know exactly what the crisis would be, but I say well, I do
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not know that this is going on, this rube of the markets, that
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inflation does not start to fall too much, stop slowing down, as happened
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in June. I say in the face of a certain crisis, let'
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s say how you see him reacting to Miley, let' s say opening
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up the typical power is not just Mila and don' t hold on until
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well, the overflowing drop and thug have to change structurally. How you see
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Milan in your crisis is installed. We' ll see if it happens that
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Caputo is a little touched and that eventually would be sturz Neger. I don
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' t take it for granted, but quite likely, and or how you
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' re going to react to my law. Reiter with this for no reason
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in general of any politician when he feels touched, closes more, but well,
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then strict the inexorable opening a bit, not if it closes as I
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say in general, not the political system what it does I think it closes,
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but it also adapts. Let' s say if a government has problems
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with popularity, with governance, with institutions, with Congress not testing laws,
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with problems with public opinion, with electoral problems. Well he designs strategies for
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each of those fronts sometimes they' re consistent, sometimes they' re not
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that consistent. But he tries to solve, looking for the tools that allow
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him to continue ruling. I' m not saying this because, well,
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Milake, he came to break that. He came to break it. As
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long as it destroys consensus. The departure of the promists we mentioned at the
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departure of Spotor Four, Potono and Rente and now caragos before charge forgiveness is
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the exit of number fifty- hundred fifty- four from an official in seven
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months. That' s totally incomprehensible. I would almost tell you in a
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way that the ways we always know of different governments reacting to the crisis.
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Milay is so far opting for decisions Let' s say heterodoxes, even though
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the word must generate rejection. Let' s see is heterodox forgiveness, which
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is straight, that you don' t get Loxso in the sense that good
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what I told you before let' s say what a politician does in the
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face of a crisis. Well, see what strategies allow them to continue to
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sustain governance. Then, if you need to open, open if you need
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to close, close. I believe that what successful political systems do in terms
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of governance is that to know, to find to each situation the tools that
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best suit you. Not good, Backron believed that to strengthen his power he
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had to advance the elections. Well, he didn' t get it all
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right, but he didn' t get a bad alternative either. And so
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each government does different things. It changes officials, changes its alliance front,
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renews its legislative vision. Well, thousands, he doesn' t do any
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of that, let' s say look he' s out of all traditional
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behavior, in the sense that in this sense not of tradition, but those
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that political systems do to strengthen themselves. Well, then. It raises a
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lot of questions about what can make the rope more tense and strengthens the hard
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lines of Patricia Burrich' s bill, to lower the imputation, to give
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to the thirteen, it is not good to strengthen that agenda, the ultra
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agenda, which is the one that, in some way, made him win
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the elections. We' ll see if that agenda allows you to get around
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the crisis. Maybe it' s me I' m not saying I don
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' t. I say it' s a risky way for me for democracy,
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but it' s also risky in terms of success, political success,
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operability and how you imagine a second phase of Millay, assuming it has to
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deal with a crisis. Let' s say closer, as God says if
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you put Turzeneger is clearly like a greater dogmatic, greater closing, greater regulation,
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liberalization, not opening up to macrism, not opening up, say,
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some lacusa. I say how it is and how you can be the reaction
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in this case. Or I say hold on to more of the same.
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It seems that it would complicate it even more, no more, to be
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more dogmatic. While Miley hasn' t been so gmatic, I say one
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speech and another practice. Not the same with the Pope, with the Congress
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with which he planted bombs, fake news in the kindergartens of Patricia Burris and
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so on. Not good. Yeah, plus, it' s hot.
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What he' s doing is he' s involved in the market, the
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campio. Yeah, and now I' m entering the market. Well,
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yeah, totally decidedly. What you' re doing destroying the market and growing
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the broadcast. Let' s just say there' s a lot to apologize
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about. The mission. It is debatable, because the issue is questionable because
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there are good measures to buy dollars and other more technical ones and it would
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have to be discussed. But well, there' s no more of us.
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Let' s say expansion of the base. So soon I say it
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is also this you look at a cluster of contradictions, because nothing that he
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said so far happened. We' re talking about falling inflation in quotation marks
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after a tremendous devaluation that destroyed revenue. Yeah, that destroyed the consumption then
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nothing that he promised is happening. But good, but it' s okay.
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But I' m sorry, but I' m sorry. Inflation is
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an asset. For now he' s an asset. I think, the
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comparison with the last mass compares it, I don' t say and but
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17 thousand. I don' t know what he was saying, but it
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was without sincerity, without fairness of tarism, that is, inflation, it
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was without sincerity, it was totally fictitious and it was already at seven eight
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ten percent I say, for society in part and like all expectation. I
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think he' s being an asset. Let' s say or say if
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not in what holds the myth that I say not fifty- six or fifty
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- eight of some is drawn, but let' s say that it is
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very difficult for half of the population to support the critical half or censorship.
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Then we can talk about the solidity of one group and others. I think
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the group is much stronger than censoring. But I say something is based,
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for example, on the gradual decline, but so far sustained, until June,
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of inflation or not to see. I think there' s two parts
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there. On the one hand, it seems quite clear to me that this
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inflation, which has begun to decline after the brutal evaluation, involves the destruction
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of revenue. I mean, people have less to buy than they used to
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connect lower. His purchasing ability is absolutely accurate that boy, but even making
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the sacrifice between quotation marks and good. That' s why the second part
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isn' t there, so that drop in inflation is real, let'
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s say, in terms of indicator. It is not real in terms of
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the buying capacity of people who can now buy less. On the other hand,
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what I think I had argued, I had said something similar to the
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other time. I what the voter of my law, especially thirty- two
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percent, and very sure what they voted for in the bariotalle needs to believe
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this is going to work. You need to believe it comes from eight very
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hard years, from where your income was also affected. Or with this gravity,
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then you need to believe that this is going to work. And that
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' s why it extends to him, and well, under inflation, even
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though I can now buy myself less than I bought before and he sees it
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in everyday life, because he can' t afford the subway or he doesn
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' t have a lot to pay for the collective. Let' s say
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well, things with the bill of light, I saw it concrete things,
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but there is one thing that needs to give the President a good credit to
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spend a little more to make this work. It seems that there is a
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lot of subjective burden put into this, which is understandable, I would say,
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but it seems to me that those two coexist for now to my law
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and that is working for it. So good to have a more or less
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quiet social situation for the degree of adjustment you have made. It seems to
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me that there is, but that is why I say to you that we
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are facing a government that does not respond to any of the logics of all
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previous coups of these forty years. I think that' s what I'
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m talking about, but that' s why you voted for it a little
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bit. Also no, although it can' t probably be yes, yes,
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I certainly want to choose, but I don' t know if the
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voter voted all the voters voted any. Yes, and I don' t
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doubt it. The darkest face of my law not the most violent repressive face.
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The people who were there I had the opportunity to talk to one of
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the detainees on the day of the march the law suffices the coupists. Let
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' s say exactly and the situations in which they were arrested are beyond the
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law not to have them undressed in prison, transfer them at 3 a m,
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remove them from a commission and take them to a maximum security prison.
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They spent two days with the compressed detainees. Let' s say a robbery
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and on the third day they passed it to the hall of murderers, people
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who were convicted of murder, who treated it well, but it didn'
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t stop being a pretty dangerous ward, things that Bastone didn' t condemn.
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Let' s say with the then I also say that and it seems
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to me that the strong repression of that day was surely also incentivized many people
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knew how to protest us and it seems to me that that is also a
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point that cannot be overlooked. Well, there' s a whole search for
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that total, yes, total, and they position it in this game.
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Let' s say in all this because I say one that' s okay
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to see, it' s hard, it' s hard to ask.
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I understand compare saving the distance be the hecatombe that was for the invincible Peronism
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until that moment to lose the eighty- three with Alfonsín. But I mean,
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it' s hard and there' s a little bit that I'
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m generous. It is difficult to ask the position, especially the Peronism that
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in six, seven or eight months I would have regenerated, already had a
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leadership, already had a Blah, blah, blah driving. But in any
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case, true, it is still atomized, it continues with internal discussions that
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if with the campore that Christina with great visibility, although surely you will not
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be candidate in light everything faced with the governors. Well we know what'
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s going on together with the field, with Magriburris, etcetera. I mean,
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I mean on the other side, obviously, and that' s also
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a big part of Milla' s asset and it' s something I'
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m saying, you see the complicated scenario. Not good for the opposition.
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It seems to me so much more relevant opponents that it is Peronism. Today
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I am aware that you have shown your opposition to the Government. Well,
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losing the vote on the foundation law leaves you an impact. Let' s
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just say, I didn' t obviously win that lesson, the law has
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been rejected. It would have been a stage. Lose him. I think
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it creates another scenario for you. It seems to me that it partly explains
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the silence of the last few weeks, because well, you have to think
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about the most effective strategy, in order to counter measures to the Government and
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obviously to the elections next year. It seems to me that this is still
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a leading path. I heard the other day of Peronism. I think I
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' m saying this isn' t a race, it' s a marathon.
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Then I think it' s a long way. Nor can it pre
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- empt itself from defining candidatures because they arrive tired for the election of two
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thousand and twenty- five. I don' t think it' s just
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that you don' t have your Internet resolved, which seems less complex to
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me. It is complex because it may well have the possibility in two thousand
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twenty- seven to be an alternative to the government, but in some less
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complex sense than it has, for example, macrism, which is more clearly
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fractured between Patricia Burrichel' s sector of ma Cricket. Well, there seems
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to me that there' s going to be more news in that sense,
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let' s say, and a cr that seems to me good is playing
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in this idea of maintaining the alliance with macrism, which may also be affected
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by that internal fracture of macrism. Let' s say, no, it
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seems to me that for all the opposition, as is often the case for
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governments, the scenarios of being an opponent. Being an opponent is not easy
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to say between producing politics. It' s not easy. Well, they
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talk politics. You can clearly say that you' re a Peronist. You
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can also say well I ask the political scientist and the citizen if filado peronistas
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patizate, what would you like to happen? Let' s say, if
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someone comes from the perfect and future wedding three years that against the re-
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election of my law, what you' d like to happen. How it
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would be cleaned up, where leadership would emerge, where you see it coming
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from. I say from the factual point of view the little Cristina candidate or
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not new song that whether or not a more central yasora that I know a
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little bit your answer but well, I also want the listener to hear how
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I clean it, how would you think a very broad front, how would
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you think I would have to conjugate or way. They call you Cristina on
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the one hand, Axel on the other. It' s time, on
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the other hand, you' re going to put three names and you'
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re not going to Sergio what compares where we should go to the future.
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Let' s say well, the first thing I would like to do is
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to end the cruelty of the government tonight. Not that would be the first
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point of the house. It didn' t depend so much on the position.
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Please, that' s why. But I say by train of priorities
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and if it happens tonight, Peronism does have a moment. I don'
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t know if it' s hinge, but it' s a different time
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than before. It' s not a different time I think we should write
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it down. It is difficult to say what can be done, because the
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truth is that it is not a laboratory construction. We have to take it.
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But what would you like? I mean, I know that sometimes you
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have an idea that I' d like you to call you can be a
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jerk and if you wore the formula, to put it like that, a
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fool, but I' m saying what you' d like. In principle,
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then you can tell me what it is that you see, what you
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would like, how it is renewed. It runs to the center Cristina with
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Christina protagonism as a reference, but it is called back, I don'
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t know, no, but figure is not to put names to see a
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bit of tendency. No, but I say I think Peronism has to have
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a definite position. I don' t think it' s Playing downtown.
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Let' s say that electorally it is that doctor has a definite position that
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claims his policies regarding the role of the state and place of society, of
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the real economy, etc, of labor. I think it' s if
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I had to say a word. Peronism is very tied to the idea of
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social justice and all that entails. I think you have to think about that
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and not least the idea of a Peronism that needs to be modernised. Now
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what happens is that of another, of that seducto pardon that I did not
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enter you the center, it is seductive among comillas, marquetinero of that along
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that road not to say. I don' t think so. I don
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' t think it' s defined. Let' s also say, good
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with two candidacies that were more are also Alberto, but Cristina was there,
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but they got and then with mass. Not that it was electorally functional.
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Let' s say no, as if Masa later ended up having a speech
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a little more. I don' t know what to call it, but
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they' re not in the center. I think that' s the way
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it is. It seems to me that the reconstruction and the possibility of improving
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equality in Argentina passes through that side now back to everything is not done about
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desires, but about the material reality that exists. And today the clear phenomenon
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is the atomization of Peronism at the provincial level. A rather curious phenomenon has
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occurred. Today Vo comes the least number of provinces of the eight interests for
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here you have had provincialization of parties, which is a problem. I'
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m not saying it' s bad good, because I don' t like
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things like that, but it' s a problem to make national policies because
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then every provincial party plays the dynamics of sustaining the territory, its territory,
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or anything else. And that' s a problem for a national project.
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And, obviously, we are facing a moment of leadership by Cristina, good
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for issues also of the passage of the years. Let' s say no,
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well it arises in other leaderships. No, then it seems to me
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that a big challenge And Peronism how does play that leadership of Cristina, which
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remains very important and that today lives with other actors that are emerging. And
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the other problem and that has not only to do with that for Peronism,
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is that Peronism cannot continue to lose the project, the national problem that has
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been presented so far burning votes in the center. Obviously, there you have
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to rethink the relationship with Córdoba, with Santa Fe, with Mendoza, where
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you have lost a lot of guto, that you won them in the two
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thousand eleven clearly with great comfort and that then it was playmap not defeats.
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Well what is that and that at the same time those projects cannot be paid
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for. Cacophony projecting at the national level because Cordobecism dies, Cordobesist, let
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' s say no, cannot make a national discourse. Help has a strong
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anti- amba speech that works in Córdoba. If he comes to Calamba,
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he won' t be able to do the same. Then balance in Córdoba
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lanesity. But you used to say that' s not so easy. But
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it seems to me that there the challenge of Peronism is in what way,
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to Cres hundred votes in that sector, I feel that in the rest of
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the country the province of Buenos Aires still has it. It' s a
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very good choice. Kizilov kidnaps him who can hold that flow. But a
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national project. It is a national project, It is not a project of
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a couple of provinces and it has to be well frontist, open to the
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manes part of radicalism, part of the pro we saw it, although if
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it with photos with Nacho Torrestcétera, etcetera, I say with Pullaro. I
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believe that Peronism has to demonstrate the ability to speak with everyone, even when
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that does not feel is reciprocal. No. Not really. Today many radicals
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have said it directly, let us say that in Congress they did not want
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to vote together with the Peronite. That' s neither bad nor good.
24:26
That' s a tip. There is still the antiperonist culture. It is
24:30
the second most important political culture in Argentina. First is Peronism, second is
24:34
Antiperonism. So that culture remains very present and that also limits the possibility of
24:40
agreements. It' s not like that, let' s say, there
24:45
were no moments in Argentina where that was blended. It was alfonsinism, stages
24:48
of quinerism, and moments when I grew. So, well, that'
24:53
s a while you can' t skip. Leave a sentence when you come
24:56
to see, I don' t want to get you out of context that
25:00
takes note so self- modernizing when we talk about this not running to the
25:03
center, which is seductive, but playing with social justice historical flags. You
25:06
said not so much modernizing yourself to refer a little bit. So let'
25:08
s say the cir songs and they' re going downtown. I don'
25:11
t think there are any changes in labour legislation. I' m sure you
25:15
have to think about change, which is platform jobs demanding renewal. Now the
25:21
Union is not taking away the eight hours of work, it is not taking
25:26
away rights, it is modernizing work, but taking part every time that formula
25:30
was applied raised unemployment not low. It' s pretty historic. The account
25:33
of that is not very hard to guess well what a taste is. Thank
25:38
you as always eh ah vos Fernando a hug, hug, Grate, Sergio
25:44
Piero the political scientist here in plural construction. Well, let' s update
25:48
quickly before we greet our second guest the day we' re at a pretty
25:52
nice temperature. The nineteen eight in the nation plus dintheone eight, almost twenty.
25:56
I say good a little while after a long time, with the cold
25:59
past. I think it would be the house to run a little, a
26:00
good time. If they had another possibility police and declare a senator case will
26:06
be key day in the investigation car rare with the media abusing the day Claudio
26:08
of the urgent, the last moment of turn in the cause. Every time
26:12
we have everything to self- critique, journalists and the media. Well,
26:15
that' s the most canal 26 nation and it' s advertising. He
26:21
reviewed TV signals Chronicle TV. He is also with more than a month and
26:27
loan approaches the hour of truth. Look at the titles not of five boertes
26:32
Logan came back. After the selection of the dollar theme, from the issue
26:36
of Trump' s assassination attempt, Logan' s case returned to agenda fifty,
26:38
also with publicity to twenty- four, in this case with the udelin.
26:44
Tonight they leave the country in the great psychopath, threatened and with imminent
26:48
terror of elbow tension. If I have no idea who plays like that in
26:52
tn to see if one fails and without the case they will, also yes,
26:55
it is already eight dolores had file loan that there is so far.
26:59
Okay, let' s update a little marked. If Don Hipper the Blues
27:00
came out and there' s a thousand four sixty- five he' ll
27:07
raise the 60- man stake. On the day let us remember to come
27:08
not Friday before the intervention of the government and new exchange and monetary measures closed
27:15
1, 500. The total blue of sixty percent dropped to one thousand four
27:19
hundred five yesterday in two days and today it rises sixty pesos to one thousand
27:23
four hundred sixty five to just thirty five pesos of the historic roof of the
27:29
vietnominal last Friday of one thousand five hundred. As I say, country risk
27:30
drops a little bit. Now the risk country under a little bit of up
27:34
to 1, 500 ninety- four. The same goes up in the day
27:37
zero sixty- three thousand five hundred ninety- four points. He counted on
27:41
liquiy Ap a little one thousand three mt and nine. It' s enough
27:45
to bend to a little bit of a thousand three hundred and twelve. Well
27:48
see I' ll read from so many notifications you get. The BBC in
27:52
London was the one with the information. Well where it was enzo Fernández and
27:57
the controversy over the chants, between raristic and discriminatory quotes of the Argentine team
28:03
against French players. I presume the BBC London, which we have as I
28:07
say the telegram channel and receive notifications as long as it seems from the most
28:11
serious media in the world. Argentina' s football team is at the center
28:15
of the controversy over the songs of some of its players during the celebration of
28:18
the title at the Copa América. They referred to the African origin of some
28:22
of their French- French- French players, and used a tomphobic insult to
28:26
refer to embappe. This packaging, which is at the stage of many media,
28:32
even today' s clarín, with seventy- five eighty- zero people
28:34
in the new Bernabeu and the reception already in Real Madrid. These songs,
28:37
which some Argentine fans used during the Qatar World Cup two thousand twenty- two,
28:41
were chanted by several Argentine players, among them the midfielder we well know,
28:47
the River del Chelsea, in suo Pérez, who transmitted the celebration live
28:49
through his Instagram account this Tuesday at the French Football Federation. Yesterday he announced
28:56
that he will sue the Argentine Football Association for the chants and well, I
29:00
won' t be scared anymore. He is also investigating Chelsea for FernándezÁngel
29:03
Fernández Esso Fernandez made a public speech in a statement and so on. With
29:08
this more theme, the theme of social background. I didn' t even
29:11
want to open it with Daniel Kipper. Some argue that there is an excess
29:14
of political correctness. Some of them are on the right and you say good.
29:17
You can' t do everything. It' s not all that racist
29:19
either. These are things that happen and others, more turned to the left,
29:25
talk that all this must be marked must be sanctioned and so on.
29:27
I want to hear it. On this first issue. On this topic the
29:30
subject of the background, which is the topic Milay Gobierno, tuxener anonymous football
29:34
societies to our columnist in judicial material, also sports, don Daniel Quippar.
29:40
Daniel, good afternoon, how' s it going. Good afternoon, Fernando,
29:42
how are you doing, thank you for being there. Well, what
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do you think about this? This kind of practice must be eradicated in football,
29:52
which we hear, unfortunately, with some regularity in sports stadiums, in
29:59
football stadiums, and I think it is a mistake for the national team,
30:04
its players, its footballers, to have echoed inappropriate chants. It' s
30:17
important that I apologized to the Fernándezs. He' s probably going to get
30:22
a financial penalty from his club, but it' s not going to affect
30:30
your sports career. But I invite all the men of football to rethink the
30:37
subject and realize how we include in the spirit of earth society as well with
30:42
a field of racisms, to then plasladar to other levels, to other strata
30:48
of society, also arid the reverse, racism, the discrimination that exists other
30:55
levels of society transfer you and express themselves on a field of background. Well,
31:03
today Julio himself came out with a claw that is the Undersecretary of Sports
31:07
of the Nation, asking for this. I heard it with Mario Donnell Messi,
31:11
or let' s say the Tapia or someone from the FA asking for
31:15
a plain apology in so Fernández. Something a little more organic or institutional is
31:17
being done. There' s one about acting. Here you have to use
31:22
it to beat the Tapia in this government fight against this criminal who is the
31:25
Tiki Tapia. The President of the AFA, as well as having merit in
31:30
the championship, also has responsibility for these kinds of issues and it seems to
31:37
me that it would be positive if I was a representative of the Association of
31:45
the Argentine Fund to publicly and openly apologize to clean up laziness in the future
31:52
and to help eradicate this practice. All right, well it would look like
32:00
coming Looks like Sturzeneger first regulated air market. Now we will be with that
32:04
since November football clubs will explain it much better than me. You have the
32:07
possibility, I think it is with seventy- five eighty percent of the vote
32:10
of the associates to transform themselves into public limited companies with stick that little pia
32:16
with veron, for example, a very very very, very reputed former player,
32:20
who are students, who is in favor of this kind of openings.
32:24
You are very critical, we have already seen it on the social network on
32:29
Twitter seventy- five percent. I think it' s the labal not that
32:30
you have to have every partner' s side. Well update your look.
32:35
Let' s say we know to a large extent, but it' s
32:37
good to re- update how this falls. There is talk of investing the
32:39
government talking about investments for this millions of having read here three billion dollars.
32:45
There are eleven companies, all rumors that move from the government. My colleague
32:49
determined to land in Argentina with fresh tickets. Tell him a note out there
32:52
even talk about three billion dollars. I' m listening. Daniel the first
32:58
remembers that there is a precautionary measure, to dictate the process in court in
33:06
the jurisdiction of the Justice of San Martín, which ordered the government not to
33:13
apply this regulation until so many sentences in that file. They' re what
33:20
I' ve checked these days. The precautionary measure is inappropriate for the Government
33:27
to move forward and publicize that by the end of the year, in November
33:35
or now, they will be empowered in sports entities to become a public limited
33:40
company. I' m sorry, San Martín, I didn' t come
33:44
from Buenos Aires. To you, the province, the Federal player of the
33:49
question of San Martín, of an entire precautionary measure and ordered the national government
33:58
to refrain from applying the articles of Neus seventy bars to twenty- three referring
34:06
to this topic. The Government must therefore abide by that measure. You may
34:14
appeal to her for reaching the court of law, for filing the judicial remedies
34:21
you consider relevant, but as long as the measure is in place, it
34:27
must end this on the one hand. On the other hand, this affects
34:31
the legal certainty of which the government has so much, because the partners have
34:39
decided how we want to link through a civil association at the time of setting
34:49
up each club and who were born after, at the time of our association,
34:57
we ratified that way of bonding. We wanted and contributed to a non
35:02
- profit entity, for altruistic purposes to educate and train us, to be
35:09
a pleasant moment to train and educate our children. And that' s why,
35:15
over more than a hundred years, Argentine clubs built stadiums, gymnasiums,
35:20
schools, cultural and social spaces. And now the President dispenses with the will
35:30
of the partners and intends to exploit what we have done throughout this time to
35:37
hand them over to third parties who, according to your reading of news,
35:45
would be contributing billions of dollars. Ask who, for what, the clubs,
35:53
every club for what. To say, the club case here, which
36:02
is going to happen that by an administrative act they will receive the real estate,
36:10
the equipment, the lower divisions, the contracts signed with sponsord by the
36:16
brand, etcetera. That is to say, a very important mass of assets
36:22
and from the administration of this mass of resources they will make investments and then
36:28
take profits to their countries of origin. Little and nothing is left here.
36:32
There are many ways to do business with football for a commercial society. Obviously,
36:40
when the only goal pursued is profit, which is typical of commercial dirt,
36:45
one can make money by winning a championship but also by losing it.
36:52
One can make money by building sports fields, as we did throughout our history,
36:58
but also by selling existing sports fields to develop real estate projects. Let
37:07
us remember, for example, what happened with the Federal Tyre. It wasn
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' t a football club, but his sports field I quote in front of
37:15
my office, in Libertador and Udaondo. Today we' ll see how 100
37:22
- meter towers are built. It' s just a real estate business.
37:28
Remember that there was also a project to sell River Play land on Federal Avenue
37:35
Court, helping to continue with that real estate project and that was the quick
37:42
reaction of many partners. Clubsho me between them. What I' m fortifying
37:47
was class on that project. Think of the lots you occupy in the hiking
37:53
club, in an unbeatable location in the city of Buenos Aires, dedicated today
38:00
to education, sport, social and cultural activities, the business to contribute and
38:06
make a shopping or make a building or make offices. Thus, a commercial
38:13
society has as its main purpose to make money and forgets the social, cultural
38:20
values and ends pursued by a civil association without ends of place. And there
38:27
is also a conceptual error that I highlighted in an article that I sent you
38:32
yesterday, which is the different historical origin of the clubs in Argentina in relation
38:39
to the development of sport in other latitudes. In Argentina, sport, the
38:45
origin of football clubs begins at the end of the 19th century. At the
38:51
beginning of the 20th century, when the great migratory flows arrive in the country
38:59
and these immigrants, who were our grandparents, who arrive without right, it
39:02
is those who begin to form mutual charitable societies some political parties and also football
39:13
clubs, which was the area of recreation, of fun, of recreation for
39:17
themselves and their family in Europe. On the other hand, there was a
39:22
completely different phenomenon and this is clearly seen from the interwar period, mainly with
39:30
the organization of the nine hundred twenty- four Football Championship and the nine hundred
39:37
- hundred- and- six Olympic Games, where Germany, Nazi by one
39:43
nazgo and Italian fascism by another, seek to politically exploit sport for the benefit
39:52
of politics and the state. There in the politicians quickly understood that the port
40:00
was a phenomenal advertising tool and the State had a very active participation in the
40:08
development of sports activities. Then it is a very different and very different situation
40:17
in which we have lived in Argentina. Here the clubs are a collective social
40:24
construction that generation by generation, we have contributed and we must preserve for future
40:35
generations a magnificent work that is the sports clubs in Europe. On the other
40:38
hand, the state had an intervention relevant to the development of a sport that
40:47
we can remember some boicoops that there were with the Los Angeles Artímpic Games,
40:53
for example, there were parallel games. At the same time, organized by
40:58
Moscow. In all that was the Cold War. Sport was a symbol of
41:02
showing the capabilities and status of one State in relation to the other. Then
41:12
they' re very different situations. And in the United States it is worth
41:16
remembering this pop that speaks of patriotic games that brand as sport developed precisely to
41:23
convey nationalism in the country of the North and the values proper to capitalism.
41:31
That is why sport had a development from the state and private education in private
41:38
universities, fundamentally that are certainly of excellence, but prohibitive they studied in the
41:45
great universities of the United States is for few privileged because of the cost it
41:52
has. On the other hand, in Argentina, in football clubs they have
42:00
sports facilities available to everyone with a very low social fee, you can go
42:07
with your family and you will use all the facilities for sports, social and
42:13
cultural activities. And we' re gonna lose that. And I would ask
42:16
President Milay to assume the state' s social assumption that today' s football
42:23
clubs fulfill. He says there' s no money. So, I doubt
42:28
he will do it, what we will do. Then we' re gonna
42:32
do without the boys, we' re gonna do with the boys. If
42:35
we don' t have a space like sports clubs to form the values of
42:40
sport are obvious. Which means we have different conceptions of sport. For us,
42:50
sport buys a training function, educator, fun and for others it is
43:00
business simply and unfortunately we who started with a rag ball and were able to
43:07
build over time these monumental works. For our success, we have summoned to
43:15
our bosom those who only want to earn money by stopping the rag ball.
43:21
I am the object of marketing, of marchandising and they generate millions and millions
43:27
of dollars, but that party money profit of the options. Well, let
43:31
' s see, I get a devil' s voice. You know this
43:34
one to try to generate more wealth, also to listen to them. Well,
43:37
that' s good. But if this is going to require seventy-
43:40
five percent. I don' t believe seventy- five percent of the club
43:44
members' approval. If most partners decide this, why not take this path,
43:47
because I associated myself with several issues. First, I believe I'
43:55
ve been associated with a non- profit entity for years. I contributed money
44:00
and effort to a non- profit society that is being violated. But I
44:07
couldn' t do these, I couldn' t change or adapt. I
44:08
' m asking you again, evil goal. It wasn' t complacent,
44:12
it couldn' t change the times. It stands out among so many things
44:16
for parteminos never, never less you' re going to sign a contract.
44:22
Let' s say the subject of what you want and comes into the state
44:29
and intervenes and changes the terms of the contract. Who insulted these questions,
44:35
Milay himself, and that' s what he' s doing now. We,
44:38
as partners of the clubs, signed a contract that we associate with an
44:45
entity whose object was the benefit of all, a social, educational, formative
44:52
function, so that we have facilities to develop the sport and it comes change
44:59
the rule and says everything that you built we will take it out and we
45:04
will give it to entrepreneurs who are going to take the profits. This alters
45:10
important legal principles and the Civil Code and the law of anonymous commercial companies also
45:19
to authorize the transformation of one corporate form into another, with the unanimous vote
45:28
of the partners and the Decree seventy bar twenty- three. In the case
45:34
of civil associations, not commercial companies, it consists of two thirds. It
45:42
makes a difference because it requires an animity for transformation, just to respect the
45:50
autonomy of the will of each and every partner. But with this the autonomy
45:55
of the will is being dispensed with and, moreover, the will of those
46:04
who have, as I do a life of associate to the club of those
46:08
who have ten days of membership and will have the same rights to vote.
46:15
I do not see bad equality in a civil partnership, but to take a
46:22
measure of this kind of planning to alienate us in our effort for the benefit
46:30
of extra- light investors, it seems to me a big mistake. And
46:35
why are there inferior explangers interested in buying football clubs because they will get cheaper
46:40
than buying players individually. We' ve got the best month. It'
46:47
s gonna be a little key, business cream. Let' s say,
46:51
instead of buying players, that another club buys a club and I can catch
46:57
the kids when they' re teenagers or still and saves me the millions of
47:05
dollars that I have trouble buying them when they' re already for you.
47:08
Note that if we go through every decade of world football, there is always
47:15
an Argentine who was prominent in the first places, the charro Moreno of Stefano
47:22
yes Bori. Pelé appeared later, although he is not Argentine, he is
47:29
also a Latin American footballer. Hermin Donega. Kempes Mario kempes Maradona. Now
47:39
one tells you beyond the philosophical and all the respectable and again I don'
47:43
t even get into it catch, turn on the theme of the club,
47:47
everything it inculcates in sports, social matters, etcetera. I ask and that
47:52
we have unpresentable leaders. How about a minor subject. No, no,
47:57
no, no, but no, no, but wait, I want to
47:59
give you up. They don' t separate me, I' m not
48:00
going to minor you. I' m not even opposing what you say just
48:01
again to enrich a little raised from somewhere else. The thing I say about
48:07
philosophy is that with unpresentable leaders like Chiquita Pia. Not without what tomorrow I
48:10
also run, President of San Telmo. It' s corrupted. I'
48:14
ll take half the money I say, cash the club, or in my
48:15
pocket, etcetera, etcetera. I say in sports terms, we see it
48:21
with Brazil in the Copa Libertadores, where they are invulnerable practically every year.
48:24
It' s theirs. I say the contribution of money that we can discuss
48:28
reiteros of the philosophics to maintain the social function of the club. I find
48:31
this very interesting. Fernando. I think he buys the club because they'
48:36
re betting so they get along like the whole package teaches a player who has
48:38
information and is a business. I say more of that, I say in
48:42
terms of ren few I can tell myself or has run me with this good
48:44
one. But in sports results, if I have more investment, I have
48:46
more money, I have much more chance to return, I exemplify with the
48:51
Brazilian clubs in the Copa Libertadores of being at the top, then we can
48:53
try. If that seems more spurious to me. If not, I think
48:55
it' s more pure. And but I say in terms of economic performance
48:59
that is po. I think it' s the part of my law'
49:00
s account. This is not a guarantee, because Miley and used the non
49:05
- independent example comes out three times cap racin They' re never going to
49:08
be the independent cinches socie en unio, they' re going to go out
49:12
to Racing, they' re going to ask for a partnership to run the
49:12
club. I mean in that sense of resultism. This is not an asset
49:16
of this, of which the Government proposes. If that' s your vision
49:22
of the function we should have family, it' s not my Daniel They
49:28
' re gonna lose. But let me mark it for you because with the
49:32
boys, we, in Argentina, took countless boys whose football qualities we have
49:44
to develop and give him a sports and educational training. Let us remember that
49:50
football clubs do not and besides, we have a school in general, precisely
49:54
so that those nine hundred and ninety- nine boys that out of a thousand
50:00
we have tried do not reach the first division, have some future through the
50:07
study instead, the crisis, a commercial company will invest in training boys or
50:15
will prefer to catch the one already trained and then take it to Europe.
50:21
We' re going to have nine hundred and ninety- nine kids abandoned to
50:25
their fate because they' re going to lack the spirit of social function that
50:31
sports entities have today. That social function is going to be lost and that
50:36
for me is primary and primordial. I have nothing with the legal forms,
50:42
because I can accept that a gentleman with money come and start from scratch and
50:49
form a club that is not what Millay is proposing, and there he proposes
50:52
that we buy from partners compulsively. Tomorrow the Mauri quiper O kiper Mauri club
51:01
is formed with money our investment, our saying that it has been enabled to
51:06
share and others and, in fact, today there are sports societies in Argentina
51:10
or these gyms that we see that they advertise by various means, that they
51:16
coblan counted for the service that they are part of. You' re not
51:22
the end- of- profit sports center socities and so much, well you
51:31
guys, but you' re copying professionally. Not how they' re not
51:35
competing on a professional level of sports. Let' s say they' re
51:40
not sports for this development to develop. Copy how we started. How River
51:45
Play started, a small group of guys who wanted to play football. They
51:52
formed the clubs that then joined and so River was born how our cousins roared.
51:58
Someone here tells me the President of the AF La Chiquita Pia himself has
52:00
a club for him and manages it purely private investment. This is a rather
52:04
unpresentable character on the other hand, but what' s done is left on
52:07
my side, but I do hear it. That' s right. I
52:12
will not ignore it, because I have denounced it many times that there exists
52:19
today, unfortunately, an important level of corruption in Argentine football. And for
52:24
this I have already proposed in Glondona' s life, two laws that present
52:31
them Chamber of Deputies and unfortunately, they have never deigned to tattoo one to
52:38
protect and tutelate the heritage of the football clubs, because today the leaders do
52:45
not account for the money that they manage ps find out how much money spent
52:54
leading in a certain wave. There' s no way, there' s
52:58
no way, you have to make a trial, there' s no real
53:04
control over the administration of football clubs. That' s why I proposed in
53:07
the year two thousand and seven a project lecturing this situation. And the other
53:10
project was for there to be diritos that involve the football leaders, because if
53:17
a football leader is sitting on both sides of the counter when doing an operation,
53:23
buys a footballer on the one hand and buys a footballer for work,
53:30
because this is going to pass quietly with the sports limited companies. Imagine that
53:37
an entrepreneur buys river and Boca, to Racing and independent, to San Lorenzo
53:44
and Hurricane. He went to all of them together that championship. We'
53:50
re gonna have you figure out the decha bets. There would be no limitation
53:54
in that regard. Me, Maurio team get together and we can buy River
53:57
and Boca or we can' t buy any say we can' t or
54:00
for more than one club. I guess you have to give some kind of
54:02
limitation. Where' s the limitation set? You don' t ask yourself
54:08
that you know there' s no limitation. I don' t know about
54:13
the limitation of some kind of limitation. But also, if they are sports
54:19
companies, there are always legal forms to violate limitations of this kind, i
54:25
e traangulation. It is something that exists even today, which is the great
54:31
subject that we have been denouncing. Imagine with commercial companies, where we'
54:39
re even going to have the right to make it a trial to see the
54:45
books. Today, at least I have the right to start a trial to
54:50
see them tables from above, because my associate status allows me to do so.
54:54
Tomorrow. A public limited liability company only the shareholders for winning and investments
55:04
that are not taken against it. I ask something I say things that have
55:07
been told me by private investment that I don' t know Hornequian invests in
55:14
river but stays. I do not know as if it were common in a
55:16
company, not with majority control, with the lack of investment, but that
55:21
it is channeled in another way that society does not know how to explain it
55:25
in another way without being retained, but belonging to it, but not to
55:30
control. This can be done. In fact, today there are forms of
55:34
hiring that allow certain investments in football clubs, without the partners keeping this end
55:42
to the truist who have the civil tattoos. For example, the trusts,
55:52
which at some point our cousins made to buy footballers. You' ll remember
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they put together a federo, they counted money, and that' s how
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they bought it. Now in River they are also making a video store to
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remember money for another kind of purpose. But let' s say there are
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ways to go to private investment and credit. And let' s also remember
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that clubs are private, they' re yours, they' re all mine,
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what we' re club partners, they have crazy owners. Yes,
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now when, for example, and here I' m going to give my
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help to Wikipedia, when the white and celestial anonic society, which that private
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Argentine company, commissioned the growth of football and the stadium of Marchai Dance Interrat,
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Marchandising der Racing from December 2000 to July 2000. What happened to that
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experience, For example, ask the current Minister of Justice who is a Racing
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mou fan talk that and Celeste didn' t do well. All right,
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let' s go. I do not want to enter the internal life of
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another entity on a prudent account, but there were no happy experiences in Argentina.
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There were no class presses of differentiation in Argentina. I don' t
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know the experience of Girl and Barranca who took first, but what experience is
57:29
not with the trofe. They are civil, there are no private capital,
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as well as legal form is a civil association that have implemented the best private
57:43
agreements. Otherwise it may be, but the legal form remains non- profit
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entities is because here it is confused what it is, obviously, that football
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clubs we have to be efficient in management and, obviously we have to earn
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money to finance sports, social and cultural activities, because without money we cannot
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finance them. But the goal of a civil association is the money that earns
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to reuse it for more sports, sotrial and cultural spaces. The money instead,
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a commercial company, the money you earn to distribute it to your shareholders.
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They are two totally different purposes, two totally different conceptions. And let
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' s also think in the movie World Creet that the character made Michael Douglas,
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bought company to scrap them and sell the assets and make money. They
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didn' t care, they didn' t care to close a company,
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the number of personnel left in the class. If you don' t implement
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the assets go. Something like that happened with the Argentine Gatherings. Also with
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the experience we had in its privatized stage, then what will happen to football
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clubs. They' re gonna sell the land, make buildings. Notice what
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happened the other day, in the final of the Copa América, if the
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prices are set according to the market, as happened the other day, that
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there were tickets that were paid twelve zero in the official resale, twelve thousand
59:36
dollars in the official resale. Realize that this generates violence, because you are
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excluding the possibility of watching a football match to the most popular sectors. Why
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it happened, why there was so much violence the other day, because there
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were people without entry who wanted to enter the stadium. But there are so
1:00:02
many people a hundred entry because there are popular factors that did not have the
1:00:09
possibility to pay an entry whose official cheaper value was seven hundred dollars. Seven
1:00:14
hundred dollars in a lot of silver here in the United States. Yeah,
1:00:19
no, I have family living in America. I travel with a certain frequency
1:00:24
and about money, seven hundred dollars there. So, if you allow the
1:00:30
end of profit to be the only determining factor to set the value of an
1:00:35
entry, you are selecting, now discriminating that the issue is fashionable to a
1:00:43
section of the population that is the most fond of football and is the one
1:00:49
that has concluded throughout history, to the passion for football. Pie Daniel Este
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thank you very much, as always, and well, as always, the
1:01:04
recommendation to follow him there. To Daniel Social, to Daniel on social networks,
1:01:07
on Twitter, for example, also on Instagram, where he posted part
1:01:13
of all this. Let' s just say he' s been talking to
1:01:15
us, yablos They' ve had him practically stopped since yesterday. All these
1:01:17
analyses, all these particular looks, Daniel, have it like this on the
1:01:22
social network of the Pajarito in Hello. Now it' s x I like
1:01:24
to keep telling him the little bird on Daniel' s kiper. Thank you,
1:01:30
Daniel, a big hug. She' s next for a hug Fernando.
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So long, thank you very much, Daniel. Quiper here in plural
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construction long program. Today from fifteen to seventeen it' s sixteen hundred and
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two. We are on the edge of twenty degrees and having updated lowers the
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lu a little bit Now I had fifty pesos, not sixty to one thousand
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four hundred fifty- five drops a little, the risk country of what was
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rising had zero zero sixty- three percent to one thousand five hundred ninety-
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four points markets deepens in the street the shares and bonds, while the financial
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pains rise again. Thirty years after the tempted wings Me and great Ameno Argentina
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we have seen it before exclusive the crasoplete of the dolina. We also read
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it before and over there are how to impact the target of real estate market
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capital, the government of choate and caragon economic cacer. We talked it over
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with a footer. That' s where the news from this hour goes.
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I will review foreign press before going to the pause also listen a little bit
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of music and surely with the ter after label to friend Gustavo Ferreri Wolfenson Sánchez
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opens Pedro Sánchez, the president of Spanish duero opens in Congress the debate on
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democratic regeneration and the ppe LE asks for resignation. It is interesting because the
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President says that he has had his announcement prior to European legislation. It promises
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EUR 100 million in aid to the sector, but there is transparency. We
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' re talking about middle ground, not that it' s a topic.
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In Germany the cloister government is an extreme half. In Spain we are talking
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precisely about this whole issue of how to regulate the media such as the world,
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the public, the daily newspaper of the world. We' re talking
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about the network' s anger. It' s a very interesting subject.
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Clear in the United States except with and contradicts or intervenes in the market,
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intervenes in the issue of pin market. But, well, there we are
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Good plural construction led by Fernando Mauri by Radio Trentopic. All right, all
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right. Here we are sixteen, nine, Gustavo Ferreo punches. I tell
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you the production you' re waiting for, you' re waiting for entry.
1:09:18
Now that you' re at it, don' t check the sum
1:09:23
Forgive me to see, see, see, let me see a second.
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If that' s it. I greet you, uh, yeah, I
1:09:29
think you' re already busing good afternoon. How' s it going out
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there, how you' re doing in a very good afternoon. Okay,
1:09:33
all right, thanks for being there. There are new things you proposed to
1:09:36
me to talk about beyond everything. I' m going to consult on this
1:09:40
selection from an almost socio- cultural or social point of view, because there
1:09:45
is an average debate installed that the secretary of the Undersecretary Sports Garro already asked
1:09:51
exquitape Mexico to offer apologies for the racist chants of sof Fernández, player who
1:09:58
will receive a warning from his English team, the chel yes, the Federation
1:10:01
preces de futbol a jer and it is a pose FIFAN before the AFA.
1:10:04
For this issue that I don' t know if you could read something to
1:10:10
you minimally inform some of this is about the political situation corresponds to combat racism.
1:10:13
What opinion do you have? Look at this one if I read it.
1:10:16
Evidently, I agree, well the apologies that it is are Fernández was
1:10:24
made to his colleagues from CHELSEA. The point is that we are in a
1:10:30
moment, let us say, I do not know what the word would be,
1:10:34
because it is not social, but so special. Let' s say
1:10:38
everything delicate and I would really like to know if those kinds of situations generate
1:10:50
or really seek the solution of an existing problem beyond apologies or not, I
1:10:56
mean to see, I think that within our everyday slang let' s always
1:11:06
say there are expressions that are not with feat or evil, that one could
1:11:13
interpret or express them, that is to see, There is a situation and
1:11:19
I make it parallel to you. Not that I want to get rid of
1:11:25
the comment. There is a homophobic cry that has been given for a long
1:11:30
time in the games of the selection of Mexico, when above all it acts
1:11:40
abroad, that when the archer clears from his area, from his goal,
1:11:46
they begin to shout to the rivals but imagine, I put with the p
1:11:58
and I also put as a sort of wave not And and so well,
1:12:04
it has generated until the suspension. First it was a joke like a wave
1:12:12
and so until they started complaining and good and they have failed. But who
1:12:17
this way all the teams with Juan Rico don Es no no imagine, are
1:12:25
the Mexicans living in the United States, that practically that is the business of
1:12:32
the Mexican ecion, as has now been seen and when it pulls out of
1:12:39
arc, the visiting archer or other selection, contrary to either team, selection
1:12:46
or whatever, it was not like a cry that not as saying good.
1:12:51
On the other hand, let' s agree that also not many times and
1:12:57
we see it around the world, from the most non- and phlegmatic people
1:13:02
at the moment they are on the court. I don' t know how
1:13:10
to give you a feeling or an explanation by taking off your shirt and being
1:13:15
with your torso naked. And it' s not that it' s a
1:13:19
South American Argentine cultural problem, because sometimes the huligans go to Poland, you
1:13:24
see in the gallery the same exaltation as saying they go to the court,
1:13:30
like the ancient Rome, to throw all their inner doll contained against this,
1:13:38
let' s say the show, what happened. Well, I think it
1:13:41
' s a typical comment. Let' s say bar chant. It'
1:13:47
s damnable, yes, but for that I don' t know how to
1:13:54
get down on my knees and do a universal forgiveness preaching. I don'
1:13:58
t see it. If that told me to be real, it solves all
1:14:01
the serious discrimination problems that are not one football, but are gender, political
1:14:09
violence, violent. Then this would be a dump. But, well,
1:14:16
we are at a very special time where more time than excessive political correctness to
1:14:21
a large extent. Coincidence with you Look here I used to say you'
1:14:25
re asking for guilt. We must preach for example. Blabla bla, but
1:14:28
I can also share part with you play, in my opinion, that we
1:14:31
live in excess. Let' s say perhaps as you say, this does
1:14:35
not necessarily tend beyond condemning him in this situation. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
1:14:39
yeah, don' t try to change the qubo status. I remember
1:14:42
now it' s broadcasting in football, on social media, you get past
1:14:45
everything and anything. But I say you can condemn a commentator or the one
1:14:48
that covers the playing field if you call such a player black, when I
1:14:53
am black inclusive that amazing black. It is discriminatory to say someone ice cream
1:15:00
or black in the media Juan. From a loving point of view, I
1:15:04
don' t remember whether it was Luis Suarez or who. Comment on the
1:15:11
whole black guy, but it' s like part of a nickname. It
1:15:15
' s not a symptom of a child And so you see this not being
1:15:24
I say certain schemes that you see in the daily algot let' s say
1:15:33
in all areas of comment, not even within certain homophobic aspects, that you
1:15:42
say yes, I' m a faggot and in the same person and you
1:15:45
tell it and you recognize it. Yeah. Anyway, then, peeled,
1:15:48
I' m peeled. I don' t mind being called the bald one,
1:15:53
I' m fat, I' m fat, my husband tells me,
1:15:57
but I don' t mind my fat one and it bothers me.
1:15:58
Now if you don' t mind, well, of course, well,
1:16:01
I' ll tell my wife my chubby girl who' s my chubby lover
1:16:04
like this. But, well, that' s right, it' s
1:16:08
only well seen. Then there are situations where, in short, I think
1:16:14
that besides, if someone is offended, then with that person directly analyze it.
1:16:25
That' s what you apologize to him for. There are historical things
1:16:29
that, of course, we say the same circumstances as we have been talking
1:16:34
about migratory phenomena for many years now. They give you that you would never
1:16:40
imagine. Let' s say a Spanish selection where you in let' s
1:16:45
say in your mental history at the same time with beret and the typical character
1:16:51
of a Basque Country, now let' s say that its two characters are
1:16:58
stars and people of color of African migrant origin, not as you see.
1:17:00
Let' s say the French selection, wherever you say, well, they
1:17:05
represent the whole spirit. Let' s say what the French Confederation is at
1:17:11
the time, and so on, Spanish nation, Spanish election today, that
1:17:16
' s exactly why I' m saying no. So, well, we
1:17:19
accept it as such. But, well, let' s not say you
1:17:29
analyze yourself as a sort of what I could say about punishment, not for
1:17:34
a comment, because then we already enter who' s who to judge who.
1:17:40
No. Then I might also feel like a minority in one place.
1:17:45
Or I say I' m white- skinned. I don' t know,
1:17:53
I remember many years ago. That' s how I told you this
1:17:55
story. I lived in the United States and had to take out the famous
1:18:00
social Curity Namber. No, well, then I go to the office,
1:18:04
you make me in form, I deliver it, etcetera, and when you
1:18:10
read it the employee tells me here there' s a problem. I say
1:18:13
what is the problem that you put, that is, how it was Latino
1:18:21
ethnic race and white skin color. There is a contradiction because Latinos are brown,
1:18:31
that is to say the typical Latin origin is in the mix, let
1:18:38
' s say Spanish with the native who is brown. Then he says here
1:18:45
he' s going to refuse me. The computer I' m talking to
1:18:47
you seriously. No. Then the pipe blocked and tells me I can'
1:18:51
t. Let me go check with my boss and I remember that at that
1:18:57
moment the boss comes over there at the counter that' s the problem and
1:19:00
she tells him no that the gentleman obviously says he belongs to say the Latino
1:19:09
race, but his skin is white. So the guy remembers a big guy
1:19:15
very much what they call this non- American was, not the typical one
1:19:21
tells me where you were born in Argentina and takes a postcard out of your
1:19:28
shirt pocket and tells me from here and it was a postcard from the obelisk
1:19:31
of Buenos Aires. And my mother tells me right now she' s on
1:19:35
vacation there and she gets me to read what the ramadre tells her. Well,
1:19:41
I' m in this very pretty city, very European, all the
1:19:45
people are white. So the guy tells the employee there they' re all
1:19:51
white, white her. And that' s how I got the definition my
1:20:00
problem for social security ambers and really good. Not like that, so it
1:20:05
' s not offensive or anything like that. Don' t say this one
1:20:12
again now if you do something costs no, obviously. Obviously, now the
1:20:18
question comes Miley, not that he gets involved in everything with all the problems
1:20:21
that we have now to apologize to the President, because I have to make
1:20:26
one more criticism and I have title of this hour. Miley shares a message
1:20:29
calling for Julio Garro' s resignation, which we mentioned, as he is
1:20:31
the undersecretary to power the official' s sayings about me telling me to see.
1:20:35
Let' s get a little history of the thing. The morning,
1:20:36
in the interview with the very serious respectable Mario Donnell Garro said Messi and AFA
1:20:42
should apologize for this from a sof Hernández, the chants, etcetera. Then
1:20:46
he backed out, went out when you said no. Actually I didn'
1:20:49
t ask for that and now my law retweets about a certain user Pittigen.
1:20:54
No one knows says this Piti. We all know what the jabo is.
1:20:58
Miley pabo loves and benches, even since he was totally criticized. To say
1:21:03
that Messi has capital letters to apologize to colonizing Europeans, colonizing Europeans for a
1:21:12
song that tells the truth, is to go, totally against new capitals of
1:21:17
the ideology of jabo. Garro has to be out right now, that is
1:21:23
Milay asks for Twitter between the comillos. It suggests that it will displace it,
1:21:28
Agarro, but I respect something where it says that Europeans are colonizers and
1:21:33
that the song is absolutely right. What do you want me to say,
1:21:40
Gustavo? No. No, no, no, no, really nothing is
1:21:44
getting in the way of you. No, that' s that market weasel
1:21:48
talk. Not this and good I don' t know if it' s
1:21:55
right said that I don' t ask you, my opinion that the first
1:22:00
one gets in to rethink this, to displace an official virtually on Twitter,
1:22:02
because I guess I' ll catch you going to have to be displaced.
1:22:04
Or I agree with the celebrities and that what they sang was actually fine.
1:22:10
They sang them are Fernández, of course, and the famous song when it
1:22:15
was the games with Brazil. We already know that Brazil is in good mourning
1:22:19
they are to see let' s say they are parts and to me they
1:22:28
taught in the old granum tribune, but with the high base of river It
1:22:31
is a brother of my mom, not Barra, but from Sunday of court
1:22:39
how were the paper cones, that they had leaflets and bands, and one
1:22:44
of the tribune above threw them, filled them with orin and threw them and
1:22:49
they were falling and splashing. Let' s see, they' re anecdotes
1:22:53
that I' m laughing now. Evidently, if you tell me I prefer,
1:22:57
I prefer, I don' t tell you that, but it'
1:23:00
s much more dangerous than holding on. Let' s say you' re
1:23:02
bottled, you' re beer, let' s say with totally crazy stands.
1:23:09
Anyway, well, you wanted to talk about something else, the namica,
1:23:12
no, no, the selection itself. I am also telling you as
1:23:16
a phenomenon of analysis at the Latin American level that practically re- filled the
1:23:26
information pages of most of the countries of the continent. And, above all,
1:23:30
if I am going to make it bisabus in the case of Mexico,
1:23:32
where, obviously, you have an economic power that manages football of such magnitude
1:23:40
and, on the other hand, against increasingly negative results. So the question
1:23:45
is the cultural phenomenon. Where you' re born, look at a coworker.
1:23:51
I don' t know if I told you he was doing it a
1:23:57
couple of months ago, got in and wrote down Menotti' s football school.
1:24:01
He had to do beyond the practicals. He had to go to Argentina
1:24:05
to do his internships, his two weeks of work, practical in a club.
1:24:14
So, just like that, he talked to him, where he kind
1:24:18
of woke up the fact. For example, I give you a case here
1:24:23
in Mexico, a boy of twenty four or twenty- five who is playing
1:24:30
on a team tell you the rookie, the debutante or here you debut to
1:24:36
that no, I mean, it' s hope and he said look.
1:24:40
I was training 13- year- old Chico as part of my practice and
1:24:45
they were already perfectly marked to say if in six months, he doesn'
1:24:50
t jump to the next division or not debut in the first. It'
1:24:54
s already off the market. Not because the idea is good. Debut at
1:24:58
sixteen and on seventeen and eighteen days. He' s already been taken.
1:25:01
It' s a bit of a situation. Now what I' m going
1:25:05
to do is more done the behavior of these guys. Practically the leap of
1:25:11
Europe was seen there. They are playing in clubs of ids called public limited
1:25:18
company or whatever you want, but where, obviously, from the first moment
1:25:23
they told him to see this is a job and you are a worker of
1:25:29
this company called Fulanoetal. When I see from good morning, you' re
1:25:33
going to be in the mic. You have to wear the suit so mark
1:25:39
the Markatai tie, that they are the pratizers, and you are a person
1:25:44
that you have to make an example. Let' s say for the institution.
1:25:48
So I, like they' re being formed with that imprint, you
1:25:53
' re not going to see the guy the night we say partying in some
1:25:59
bowling alley or some kind of cases. If they do it in the locker
1:26:02
room, at the hotel at night it' s a problem. But outwards,
1:26:05
which usually happens, for example, to the Mexican players who went to
1:26:10
Europe. The most specific case Geova nido santo compañero de cuarta y de Carrera
1:26:21
de Messi in the basic forces and the day he left, the guy from
1:26:27
the first night he debuted left to party Barcelona. He said no here no,
1:26:32
and so he continued to purify many countries of the world. Well,
1:26:39
today, at Messi' s age, he' s retired two years ago.
1:26:43
Obviously, he didn' t handle that quality. Then that' s
1:26:46
luck. Let' s say situation of guys who left. I see it
1:26:51
that way eye maybe I' m wrong. They left very young. They
1:26:57
fed on culture and a feeling of country from abroad that sometimes strengthens day by
1:27:02
day much more, because it is nostalgia. Let' s say identity in
1:27:11
exile, I' m going to use it that way. Not then do
1:27:16
they mark a conduct not only of companionship, but of professionalism, even of
1:27:23
mysticism. Not that it' s them and besides, with the phenomenon they
1:27:29
know that if they say they don' t give the width. The next
1:27:34
day you have in row three or four alternatives to implant that not. Then
1:27:42
you see they don' t play by heart. No, no, but
1:27:46
there is also I think that there is an education fund that they were having
1:27:54
in their say their experiences abroad, so not to call it working in serious
1:28:02
institutions, that they were marking the behavior also of life. So I think
1:28:11
he has a justification, too. It' s not like I eat three
1:28:15
plates of radios anymore and I go out to play and let' s say
1:28:21
cancherando you see that there is no canchersmo there are no leftovers. Maybe the
1:28:28
only disclaimer is that what happened in the locker room and that' s what
1:28:32
comes out of the ordinary. There, if you want to call him,
1:28:40
the containment came out to the tension, the neighborhood came out, it came
1:28:46
out to the end in a background that remembers him in his origins, but
1:28:53
they are already other boys totally with other formation and other culture and precisely generate
1:29:01
and contagion those in front of other boys who were not even born in the
1:29:06
country, who now opted for the country, but they are the example of
1:29:10
infecting this mystic. If there were not this mystic, many of these children
1:29:15
born outside the country would have chosen to choose other alternatives from their respective countries.
1:29:25
So I, for that reason, analyze this kind of cultural and social
1:29:30
phenomenon. Selection seems to you to be a cultural or social phenomenon and at
1:29:35
this moment it is and it is the only thing where it has practically generated
1:29:42
a feeling of unity of the country. But not necessarily beyond the triumphs,
1:29:45
but what they represent. Don' t mix up Look, Milady also said
1:29:51
she was offering them the balcony And all of it, not that They'
1:29:56
re playing for the country. Their referents are not institutions or governments, but
1:30:00
people and at all times they are. All we do is give people joy
1:30:06
and that has a very special meaning. I feel that way maybe from so
1:30:13
many miles away and that' s why it' s contagious. I mean,
1:30:18
it' s not the fact of me getting together and I' m
1:30:21
telling you luis amis. This is where the selection plays. It' s
1:30:26
practically good. Why she didn' t accept well, because part of all
1:30:30
that, part of being in the selection, is signing advertising contracts with most
1:30:36
sponsoring companies, very strong companies. Then you see the players in labels.
1:30:45
I don' t know from a soda, chips, etcetera, etcetera.
1:30:53
For the same and the same in advertising and the coach as well, etcetera.
1:31:00
I mean, to see after the step, this poor boy who used
1:31:02
it, who resigned yesterday in the selection, because I say they used it,
1:31:08
they said in my Maria Hine, no, no, no, he
1:31:12
' s the coach of Mexico, Charte de México, sorry. Yeah,
1:31:15
if they threw him out there, because, well, obviously they inflated him
1:31:23
for the TV sets that own football. Let' s say, it was
1:31:28
a special alternative to starting the America Cup and well they already had their project.
1:31:30
It didn' t give them time, well they had it, et
1:31:33
cetera, et cetera. What am I going to do? Well, then
1:31:36
they invented also the way the guy was Jaime Jimmi, it was the Lamborshimi
1:31:42
and the Morchimi and it melted in the first corner. Yes, but well,
1:31:47
all that commercial mysticism doesn' t really happen in our country, so
1:31:55
you only generate, that is, in the case of Mexican football, to
1:32:00
continue playing in the United States, because you have approximately forty million Mexicans who
1:32:06
are there who buy you two or three hundred dollars each entry that arrives in
1:32:11
a stadium, even if it plays in contrinidad Ovago, then, evidently they
1:32:21
have preferred a business and not a feeling. I believe that today in Argentina
1:32:25
the selection conveys a feeling and is not really a business. Although, evidently
1:32:30
leaving him the three sixteen billion dollars, there is the tiquitapia so that he
1:32:34
can pay his never criminal dryer that we have in the mother totally good.
1:32:44
We also had the old black one for that, but, well, maybe
1:32:49
that' s not, I mean, it' s a little bit of
1:32:57
him in front of that, I think he' s even given free reins
1:33:00
to players having an opinion. No, they' re the ones who hold
1:33:04
him. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So, okay.
1:33:10
There will be the comment, a more social comment. I really think
1:33:15
it' s fundamental. Really like they understood, which meant being a sports
1:33:24
professional. All right, gus hug thank you so much, as it is
1:33:30
always, on the contrary, a hug, big hug Gustavo forrarily Wolfson.
1:33:32
We' re full football for Chelsea says about that Fernández fuentable. I repeat
1:33:40
what Gustavo said. This is closer to him than to Equiper. Political correctness
1:33:42
is now condemnable. They' re a bunch of players singing in a wire
1:33:45
was wrong. Let' s say yes, I think it' s worse
1:33:48
with the millet to change the two millay that I' m going to tell
1:33:51
you to see Gustavo says it' s a damnable thing. The canticonso Fernandez
1:33:54
now solves the problems of serious discrimination in the world. A song of refuge,
1:33:58
a song in the midst of violence, for example, and I think
1:34:00
Gustavo is right let' s say Daniel Kipara used to say well, yes,
1:34:05
everything exemplifies and is also true a little, but I say is a
1:34:10
football player. He' s not in a private setting. I think they
1:34:12
did it myself, but good at the glow of a katy is and I
1:34:15
don' t do it for Argentineism. No selection, I don' t
1:34:18
even see from the games. I don' t even care much about the
1:34:20
point of selection. I' m honest with you, but I think it
1:34:23
' s true. Like maybe your match doesn' t look like your President
1:34:27
' s maches to me. Let' s go tell the story. Agarro
1:34:30
tub Secretary of Sports, told Mario Donnell that they should ask for blame Messi
1:34:33
and Chiquitapia. Vecto upset the government. There were a couple of spokespeople,
1:34:43
libertarians or trolls who hit him. Agarro, who is a man of the
1:34:46
pro- Sports Secretary, understands silver. The guy went back. Someone even
1:34:50
sent me here as one. He' s in a Watsapp group spreading everything.
1:34:54
Commenting on save an economist tells me it doesn' t look like it
1:34:57
was bege news. Not about Agarro wasn' t a peñus pedios. He
1:35:00
asked for that apology from Messi the little Pia. I don' t know
1:35:03
if it was to hit Chiquita Pia by elevation when he' s facing the
1:35:05
government because of the issue of society, of that reality. Then he appealed
1:35:09
because this fell very well for the government, because Messa is an untouchable for
1:35:12
politics. Messi is an untouchable. You don' t have to touch Messi,
1:35:15
because that also generates unpopularity you and I criticize me if I will generate
1:35:18
popular in me as a journalist or politician. As a politician. Well and
1:35:24
then it should have regulated And now what milay does, as georg just told
1:35:29
Gustavo, is shares a message that asks for Garro' s resignation and that
1:35:32
has this element of ratification of what these many sang, the canton is fernández.
1:35:39
Let' s say that Messi has to apologize to colonizing Europeans for a
1:35:45
sanction that tells the truth, that is, that they are colonizers who are
1:35:47
black, that Vappe is taken to forgive me women or that gay and that
1:35:54
in reality the selection should be the selection of aphrics. I don' t
1:35:58
know how many things these have against corporal ideology, too. It' s
1:36:01
true, because it has an ideology where all that anger or Trump' s
1:36:09
attack repudiable to trap Trump. Not for my Lene was the international globalist left.
1:36:14
Not this loony wolf, which seems weird, which is apparently a game
1:36:16
in imbalance among the many in the United States. I think it was Iranian.
1:36:20
I don' t know who. Not leftist ideology, nothing to see
1:36:23
either the left or the international. That one' s gonna be nice to
1:36:26
us. Here it had nothing to do with the outside or Iran. Nor
1:36:29
do I know that neither Cuba, nor Russia nor China is a local issue.
1:36:32
A loco in the United States. Well, this mixes everything up and
1:36:35
now my law mixes and asks virtually for resignation and this kind of social media
1:36:41
claw, practically killed him and now he' s shooting in the middle of
1:36:44
the country. It is obviously mount, the quilombos that Milaye received and that
1:36:47
deepen the disasters that my law receives, that deepens for evil. Well,
1:36:50
the time is on your Twitter account to bolude me around with this and throw
1:36:55
the 60th official out leaving you resigned already today they made this textile TV entrepreneur,
1:37:02
which seems to be not very serious. But well, I gave you
1:37:08
expensive Gacan. Another economic being who had questioned management is potorno two. First
1:37:12
there was the power of the Council, not an official in itself an advisory
1:37:15
council from which neither he would charge nor charge pesos, I suppose or expected,
1:37:21
but another one working the almost sixty that Miley casts, as well as
1:37:25
a moment in an interview with an anteriolaje, a colleague of terror, from
1:37:30
terrible right, anti- proncha, you peronistas of terror, the minister of
1:37:34
labor had thrown out saying that he had been responsible for raising the executive salary
1:37:39
of the members of the executive. It had had nothing to do with it
1:37:41
and Ramiro also joined the more relegator porteño and managed some economic sensors of Millay
1:37:45
integrates this Economic Council that had uploaded an X post that had said the BI
1:37:49
champion of America, champion of the world and best footballer of history. I
1:37:53
' m always the best in history. I am the best journalist in history
1:37:57
and I tell you Silvia Juan on radio Toto Caputo is the best minister in
1:38:01
history. Peto, he was better at minimizing the history of human capital.
1:38:05
For everything like that, the best footballer ever.“ You don’ t
1:38:09
have to apologize to anyone,” Marran said. You don' t have
1:38:11
to ask to lose anyone to keep crying for a simple dot song. I
1:38:14
mean, it minimizes the song that Gustavo Fernandi for volunumo didn' t minimize,
1:38:18
but they said we don' t believe in that kind of thing.
1:38:20
The former creation of the Gee Club el Chelsea because the French comrades have had
1:38:26
little effect on economic songs. It seems all very much about everything, but
1:38:29
let' s say that, politicians Miley Marra are banking this song, displacing
1:38:34
officials for this statement. The truth is, it' s amazing. The
1:38:36
truth is it' s incredible at the point we' re in Argentina.
1:38:40
We' re going for a very small pause and I' m already saying
1:38:43
goodbye. We' re already listening to the minute, the two economic panoramas
1:38:46
of Alejandro Rosman. Tomorrow Thursday we met again at four o' clock in
1:38:49
the afternoon. We closed the week with an interview with political scientist Julio Burman.
1:38:55
Let' s go to Juan and blow it up. We remind you
1:39:08
that you can find us on social networks, on our website, where we
1:39:12
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1:39:23
thousand twenty- two and, as always where we upload audios of the program
1:39:27
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1:39:34
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friends. Plural construction led by Fernando Maurik by Radio. All right, all
1:40:01
right, so we' re twelve minutes. We stay, Juan I of
1:40:03
Alejandro Rosman told me very well and we have twenty programs left and that I
1:40:09
stay about five or seven minutes for me to see I will review the country
1:40:14
of Madrid, since we are having a little nice time until the two hours
1:40:16
be so fast. We were with Sergio de Piero, we were with Gustavo
1:40:23
barriy Wolveis and also with Daniel Kipper. I' m going over my Twitter
1:40:26
account. For some sports only a business, Kipper Rosman told us. We
1:40:30
' re gonna like it for a little while with this country risk. There
1:40:32
' s danger of faul seeing what else, what else? In my profile
1:40:42
of the social network of the Pajarito, I don' t want to call
1:40:45
X because I don' t like seeing the elections anymore, which has its
1:40:57
social phenomenon and national reflection and plays for people, not for politicians. I
1:41:00
used to say for ri Walfinson before I stood up. He was telling us
1:41:02
and these circles are already on Twitter. As I say, the latest developments
1:41:04
in recent days are the criticisms of sectors which, to some extent, rely
1:41:08
on my law, on their programme and which are beginning to say that in
1:41:11
the future, with these measures, the economic partnership will not work. There
1:41:15
is a guard that is in force in a federal court in San Martín against
1:41:18
the anism societies in football, so Millay' s management should taste it.
1:41:23
The Government should obtain and promote this which affects the legal certainty of which the
1:41:27
President speaks so much. That' s what Daniel Kipper said. Here a
1:41:31
few minutes ago, three voices were passed. Kippers got fired for Brie Wolfilson
1:41:36
paraded. Well, come on, open up the country of Madrid. I
1:41:41
' ve told you before about Pedro Sanchez. Baiden says he would consider retiring
1:41:45
xiste was recommended by a doctor for health problems. The eighty- one-
1:41:48
year- old president will sign an interview that gives him a little wisdom to
1:41:51
see. Let' s comment a little more. In reality. I'
1:41:57
ll go over some notes. I allow myself while the country is muddy milay
1:42:02
against the Sub- Decree of Sports for having entered it month by month and
1:42:10
nobody messes with Messi well my law does not stop in these times of extreme
1:42:14
individualism. We must remember that we form a social collective. Adorni said yesterday
1:42:18
we don' t care about the value of the dollar, which I bet
1:42:21
on dollar loses in the works of historicals in Argentina. We don' t
1:42:23
care about the after dollar nor do we take care of the risk country you
1:42:28
see the spokesman Adorno. Adorno also talked about the newsroom, and the madness
1:42:33
is total. We' re not doing this. I spent my last post
1:42:38
today on Instagram. We' re going to make an IPS press room.
1:42:43
We' re talking about the government house press room, journalists who can prove
1:42:46
they deserve to be close to the President of the nation. Adorne said to
1:42:50
see Adorno, Adorn Sorry comes out to the press of the great id.
1:42:56
You have to accurate in the media terms is the discussion that half and half
1:42:58
not so being. You can' t kick the President, the Government,
1:43:01
you can' t choose that ah for the nation more goes this way from
1:43:08
the bare trebuc or Kabac, that' s what frequents the fifth olive trees
1:43:12
by Clarín Batal, by the financial sphere Batán and you can' t stop
1:43:15
which journalist sends every medium everything. They can see, and it is controversial
1:43:18
to see, that it is not discretionary, what media they attend as they
1:43:23
rotate and then the armed pride of these people, of cruelty. We'
1:43:26
re not going to see what journalists can prove, show that they deserve to
1:43:30
be close to being around. First you put it down as a garnish.
1:43:31
Not the President seems like saying he' s up to his height, at
1:43:36
your height, that there are already four cups of journalism, as I am,
1:43:40
but the pride of these people, the truth that is impressive. Key.
1:43:44
I' m an official in the city of secretary laughing ended up being
1:43:46
the cardboard man' s head. Look what he said. Crave that you
1:43:49
don' t have to give it so you don' t collaborate with the
1:43:58
situation of the humble. You don' t have to hit them. You
1:44:00
don' t have to give if you give him a plate of food and
1:44:01
a person who lives in the street accommodates him in poverty, but I say
1:44:05
yes, yes, there is left to the poor one you have to give
1:44:09
him the cane, to give him fish and to give him the cane to
1:44:10
learn to fish. But this sentence is so sure. Everything' s so
1:44:13
safe. This is the proe. It' s not a millionaire, but
1:44:15
it looks like you give him a plate of food or a soup from a
1:44:17
person who lives in the street and how to do it That' s why,
1:44:19
in other words, let' s not help the person who is on
1:44:23
the street and, on the other hand, the head of the cardboard boxer,
1:44:25
is already different from the rest of the citizens. The truth is that
1:44:27
the sensitivity of these people, I say the but wide, the Peronists steal
1:44:30
but they do and they are sensitive, they steal from four hands. But
1:44:33
among these people who fill their money for finance, who have the least sensitivity
1:44:36
that they do nothing for the poor. I think the choice is clear,
1:44:41
tall and tells someone that he' s not a Peronist, he' s
1:44:44
not anti Peronist either, but I' m legitimate to be a Peronist.
1:44:47
Well, Central. Speaking of this, we are also going to base now
1:44:51
the intervention that we are going to listen to this little minute as it goes
1:45:00
as we are going to listen to Rome in a little bit tomorrow, then
1:45:04
we close with Marcos Novaro. Next week we' ll see how well we
1:45:08
start Tuesday. Let me review the current situation a little bit more with notes
1:45:15
that I have here in the cellu Bueno say terrible to see the markets.
1:45:19
As I say I have already consulted it all the time, that this Argentina,
1:45:25
power where the dollar does not matter, at risk, country where the
1:45:28
government intervenes, where you crucify. If it' s this use, it
1:45:31
' s always what I' m talking about, that there' s a
1:45:35
new side back to being the intelligence idesaluce in a thousand and it' s
1:45:40
going to use it to follow its own and strange let' s say from
1:45:42
its cabinet and from outside its own and others. Well, it' s
1:45:45
a constant of all governments, now this government. The problem is, it
1:45:46
' s more of the same thing. It' ll be a little worse
1:45:48
than the steelfish. It' s more of the same as it' s
1:45:50
different. Well, I' m saying good- bye to you practically at
1:45:55
sixteen forty- six I leave you with farand Rome. We make it a
1:45:57
quiet circle and tomorrow we meet, as I say with the game burman here
1:46:00
in plural construction. Enjoy inside the winter and the far from the polar ball.
1:46:03
Although it returns certain quescore on Friday and also instability to rains. I
1:46:08
think it makes the fleshy Saturday this, the nineteen- twenty of today and
1:46:11
tomorrow me in a little while right now, before it starts to repecate a
1:46:14
little bit more going for a run. I haven' t done it in
1:46:16
a long time because of the cold. I' m violent and enjoy.
1:46:18
Then, today, tomorrow and tomorrow we meet again and then I will see
1:46:21
and rebuke a little again. Thank you, John as always for putting in
1:46:25
the agre. Thank you very much, Silvia, working for the reproduction product.
1:46:28
We listen to Alejandro Rockmann and see you here tomorrow passing the twenty season
1:46:32
of this programmer called plural construction. Bye bye, and remember what I told
1:46:36
you. A little while ago in these times we have to live of extreme
1:46:45
individualism, let us remember that we formed a social collective so hello. What
1:46:56
do you know how Alejandro Rosa speaks? With the economic and social developments of
1:47:01
the week, of course, they lead the analysis. We want to do
1:47:06
today the latest measures taken during the weekend by the national government in the face
1:47:14
of the crisis of the excerio sector, which had brought the awareness of the
1:47:19
values of the dollar to both the marginal level that operates the same in the
1:47:26
caves and the financial character to values that included a gap with the official dollar
1:47:32
of about sixty percent and were growing sharply day by day. The weekend saw
1:47:40
a series of distinctions in financial policy that has caused a real shock in the
1:47:45
current scenario. Yesterday and today it was repeated it was recorded a day with
1:47:53
extraordinary numbers in the market. The Government announced the official intervention with crest in
1:48:02
the values of the constitution of the foreign currency, with the objective to go
1:48:09
down and these values to make carlos to the official dollar, in order not
1:48:13
to arouse expectations of immediate evaluation, which is what the market, in a
1:48:18
large proportion of its most relevant spy factors and desires the decrease by the official
1:48:28
intervention of the cortización of the ole, counted with the inspiration that it is
1:48:33
that moderates the process of quotation of the soy dollar, to which it allows
1:48:42
to know how many are the revenues of the ojeres, because a part of
1:48:45
twenty percent of the sales to the estador can be listired via. That kind
1:48:49
of change took place strongly. It was reduced by eight and a half percent
1:48:57
in the day to day. Yesterday and today it fell back to p extremely
1:49:00
by three percent. The gap yesterday was forty- one percent and today a
1:49:04
little lower. Of course, the dollar also lost about a hundred pesos over
1:49:12
the 1, 500 is six percent in the end. The estimate of the
1:49:17
fall in the two days, which is a fair one to the sharp and
1:49:23
important low, but those news that carry along the same line as the national
1:49:28
government aspires to avoid a devaluation that, transferred to prices, would destroy the
1:49:33
only beneficial factor that economic policy has. At that time, in the Cenciana
1:49:40
it moved on a very contrasting plane, because there was a strong cost to
1:49:46
pay and there was a strong cost to turn off the merbal Yesterday fell nothing
1:49:51
less than the twelve percent I and continued to go down and the country risk
1:49:58
the most serious of all indexes move at that moment went up to more than
1:50:03
one thousand six hundred points, deciding the alsa, which corresponded with the fall
1:50:11
of the value of the honos, which was of three and a half percent,
1:50:16
and today it continued to go down not so much, but it was
1:50:20
descending, that to the expected deployment it fell of the financial dollars, because
1:50:28
the Central Bank chose to buy dollars from the resisters and then sell them in
1:50:33
the exchange rate counted with the inspiration to depress it and keep the difference produced
1:50:44
a reaction contrary to what was expected And in addition to a very true sign
1:50:50
and alarm, because it coincides with the tendency that is said to discourage,
1:50:58
it coincides with the perception that the great national and international economic and financial operators
1:51:02
have had from the market situation. Changing it is very critical and pre-
1:51:05
announce, as in any other circumstance, is that that value increases the risk
1:51:11
country so high. They even speak out to a possible folk. There'
1:51:16
s no worse sign in astronomy than ours. That is, if if you
1:51:20
were to take an international credit at this time with a risk to go one
1:51:26
thousand six hundred point, you have to pay already six percent interest, add
1:51:31
to the market value of the respective interest sauce, that is, a prohibitive
1:51:35
value, a value that says it is closed for the Argentine economy. Any
1:51:41
financial transaction he expects the expectation that is the new policy, will put a
1:51:48
brake on the accumulation of reserve by the commitment of nramy girls. Take and
1:51:53
buy the dollars offered by spores in the market with potential potential and an impact
1:51:59
on the payment of future debt. It explains at the downside of the bonds
1:52:04
is a potential for extension, a very obvious recessive scenario, so much so
1:52:12
that a notorious economic diner today said that we are probably in a hyper-
1:52:18
recession process is very serious and that, if it continues to be missed,
1:52:24
it will add one element to more uncertainty for the Argentine economic future. With
1:52:26
the agramante that all these maneuvers unfailingly prevent a normal desalination of the market,
1:52:32
it changes to the self as it would lend itself, because any opening at
1:52:38
that time would exploit the cautization of the dollar within the framework of the previous
1:52:45
considerations in the economy of the country. In Neprano financial financial with serious problems,
1:52:48
as I have just woken up, I do nothing but relate the data
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and comment on them, as do virtually all economists and analysts who work in
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consul financial doctors. I' m not forgetting the content of the measurements.
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Another explanation is given by those who work in the real economy, that of
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goods and services, that of wages, that of employment and that of unemployment,
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that of the ability to take it away. The last of economic growth
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shows very discouraging centuries. Before a Monday and a very convulsed Tuesday the market.
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Information on the economy in general appears on the market. Inflation. According
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to the last data of June, it grew briefly by ten percent compared to
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the inflation of the previous month and seems to be still unpredictable by all the
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financial consequences. But what is marking a deeply occupying scenario is the real economy
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that you do not daily to all producers and/ or consumers in Argentina.
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The level of utilization of sacred capacity was in the month of May last existing
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data of fifty- six comma eight percent. Eleven points less than the same
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month last year, which was almost sixty- eight percent, from a very
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sharp recession, have been lost. It is estimated around 200, 000 jobs,
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according to the latest information of the formal activity, which marks a weakening
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of the ability to retain jobs. A report by the Catholic University of Argentina
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indicates a situation, moreover, of disheartening. The o of you work generation
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incline salis, so the average income per capita in the first semester of this
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year reached about two hundred thirty- four thousand pesos compared to the income of
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the previous silmestre, which was two hundred fifty- five thousand and two hundred
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ninety- five thousand in the first trimese of two thousand twenty- three.
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It indicates that in that last period, a full year with three months of
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acute munda, recession and fall of salary, The population lost an average twenty
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percent of its real purchasing power in the places. If you compare the different
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options in the market according to the location of the income structure, the revenues
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were reduced in real terms between thirty and fifteen percent compared to the same quarter
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of the previous year. This is explained by the fact that labour income,
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such as non- work income, was insufficient to compensate for the increase in
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the basic basket in which poverty levels are ended. Poverty levels are at a
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higher level according to the UCA, they have reached fifty- five percent by
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the end of the first quarter and diligence levels at eighteen. That is a
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very alarming fact, that is to say, that one in five people in
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Argentina does not have enough money to eat a data that was not seen in
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the Argentine economy since the year two thousand one and if one moves in terms
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of productive activity, the information indicates, given by the same government, that
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a call is expected this year, which is almost ten percent greater than the
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fall that occurred in the year two thousand twenty in the middle of the pandemic.
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It is an economic and social pandemic that has strongly affected the industry,
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that all the official appraisals that marked a very significant upturn in the second semester
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have disappeared, because with this information, the tendency to lament the recession that
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marks the new philanthropy project and change it and the discouragement that it implies in
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the area of the courts, which is seven million. The rate of fall
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is also between twenty and thirty percent of the fee received before the new government
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took office. The future pronorama is not very flattering. We' ll see
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what happens in the next few days, what' s going to happen to
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the bond listing. Today we have reacted the dollar bonds that are the ones
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that mark the expectations of the solvency market to change, since you are added
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a lot with the new model even the Minister of Economy son that in the
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future Argentina will have an economy with an expensive role, which will encourage imports
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from abroad and discourage exports, in a framework that faces a safe decrease of
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the reserves, because the Central Bank, by not issuing its only source of
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financing, is given by the purchase of the dollars of the country port with
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lower level of export, lower level of accumulation of reserves. In short,
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we cannot give the inlet a picture today, as it would have been desirable. S