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Almost Famous OG: Byron Velvick · The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast

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  Speaker 1: This is the almost famous podcast with iHeartRadio.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, guys, it's almost famous.
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  Speaker 1: OG's the podcast of goodness and it's one of your
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  Speaker 1: hosts here, Bob Guiney.
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  Speaker 2: I hope you're doing well.
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  Speaker 1: And thank you so much for tuning in and listening.
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  Speaker 1: We have a very exciting podcast today. I'm actually super
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  Speaker 1: excited because this is someone who came shortly after me
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  Speaker 1: in the lineage of the Bachelors over the years, and
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  Speaker 1: was the first year they put kind of a clever
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  Speaker 1: twist on how they did the show, which we're going
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  Speaker 1: to talk all about that. Let's bring him in. I
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  Speaker 1: believe he would be Bachelor season six. It's Byron Velvick, Bachelor,
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  Speaker 1: pro fisherman and all around awesome dude.
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  Speaker 2: What's up Byron?
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  Speaker 3: There he is, Bob Guiney.
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  Speaker 2: How you doing, buddy, dude.
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  Speaker 3: I'm doing good. How about you? Oh man?
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  Speaker 2: I am so good. Thank you so much for getting
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  Speaker 2: on the show with us. I really appreciate it.
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  Speaker 3: Hey, thanks for having me on the show. I really
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  Speaker 3: appreciate the invitation.
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  Speaker 1: When they called you for the show, and I want
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  Speaker 1: to hear about all of it. I want to know
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  Speaker 1: how they found you. All that kind of stuff. But
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  Speaker 1: I mean, you were already a big deal in the
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  Speaker 1: professional fishing world, so this had to be kind of
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  Speaker 1: a really cool situation, I guess, kind of bringing two
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  Speaker 1: major worlds together.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, it had to just explode for you. I
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  Speaker 2: would think, you.
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  Speaker 3: Know, you know, Bobby, it was surreal because I'm back
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  Speaker 3: East fishing, I'm on tour. I'm a bass gypsy. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: I'm literally sleeping at campgrounds and I'd never watched the
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  Speaker 3: show in my life, and I had no clue what
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  Speaker 3: The Bachelor was. But I was fishing all the tournaments
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  Speaker 3: and one two US Opens. There's US Open trophy there
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  Speaker 3: and another US Open trophy there. That pinball machine is
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  Speaker 3: called Fishtails. I had a fishing agent, and after I
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  Speaker 3: won my second US Open, she gifted me that pinball
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  Speaker 3: machine as a congratulations winning my second US Open. So
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  Speaker 3: I'm doing all this stuff. I'm a forty year old
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  Speaker 3: divorced bass fisherman and my friends are watching The Bachelor,
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  Speaker 3: and they're like, hey, you need to be on this show.
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  Speaker 3: And I didn't even know what they were talking about, dude.
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  Speaker 3: So when the Bachelor called, they wanted me to send
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  Speaker 3: them pictures of me, you know, like like find out like, hey,
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  Speaker 3: I know, do you wear a belt buckle? Do you
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  Speaker 3: chew tobacco? What is a fisherman going to look like?
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  Speaker 3: You know, they're exciting, they're stereotyping me as a fisherman,
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  Speaker 3: and they're kind of apprehensive. I said, I got to
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  Speaker 3: go to Kinkos, you remember, back in the day. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: I'm gonna go ride to Charlotte, North Carolina. That's the
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  Speaker 3: closest town to this lake. And if you guys want pictures,
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  Speaker 3: all I have to send them from Kinkos.
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  Speaker 2: That's funny. They're like, okay, you know what, they go,
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  Speaker 2: We just we need pictures of you.
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  Speaker 3: It was primitive internet, so there was no internet, have
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  Speaker 3: Wi Fi. I was twenty one years ago.
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  Speaker 1: Dude's I was going to say, yeah, because I was
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  Speaker 1: two thousand and four. You were two seasons after me.
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  Speaker 1: You were two thousand and five at least, right, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: I think it.
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  Speaker 3: Was Jesse Palmer was right before me.
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  Speaker 2: It was Jesse.
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  Speaker 3: Where it was Jesse Palmer after you? Or was there
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  Speaker 3: somebody else after you?
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  Speaker 1: I was right, I was before Jesse. So I was
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  Speaker 1: two thousand and three, two thousand and four, and then Jesse.
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  Speaker 1: I think it was two thousand and four, which means
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  Speaker 1: you were probably two thousand and four, two thousand and
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  Speaker 1: five somewhere right now, because they were shooting them back
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  Speaker 1: to back back.
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  Speaker 2: Then right now.
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  Speaker 3: It was crazy, right.
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  Speaker 1: So when you get the call and they're like, okay,
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  Speaker 1: we want you to come on the show.
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  Speaker 2: Is your family and your friends are they just like,
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  Speaker 2: what this is crazy?
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  Speaker 3: Well? I had never seen the show, and so my
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  Speaker 3: friends were excited. My two friends in Vegas that were
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  Speaker 3: friends with one of the girls that had some connection
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  Speaker 3: to the Bachelor, and they said, hey, we're looking for
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  Speaker 3: the next Bachelor, and they go, do you know anybody
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  Speaker 3: in Vegas? And so my friend Carrie and Jason are like,
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  Speaker 3: oh my god, Jason's best friend would be great. He's divorced,
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  Speaker 3: but he's on the road fishing, but he would be
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  Speaker 3: every time we watched the show. We said, this friend
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  Speaker 3: of Jason's, Byron, my best friend with him and his
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  Speaker 3: care they'd have the Bachelor watching parties on Wednesday nights. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: you know yeah, And they're like putting me in the ring.
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  Speaker 3: And so they're they're telling the producers the casting directors
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  Speaker 3: about me, and they're like, well, explain this guy to
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  Speaker 3: us and A. I was divorced, and I was much
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  Speaker 3: older than most of the Bachelor's Dude, I was forty
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  Speaker 3: when I did this show.
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  Speaker 1: Right, yeah, and at the time before you, I was
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  Speaker 1: the oldest at thirty two.
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  Speaker 2: Oh no way, yeah, yeah, yeah. When you were on Tristan.
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  Speaker 3: If I remember, you were on Trista's show first, and
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  Speaker 3: then they brought you back and gave you your own
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  Speaker 3: show after.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, yep, I was like the region the lovable loser.
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  Speaker 1: I guess you know. They're like, oh, that's.
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  Speaker 3: Awesome with me. They had they had the two guys,
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  Speaker 3: they had me and Jay overby, and they did so
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  Speaker 3: I didn't get that. I thought at the very end,
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  Speaker 3: I was still going home, like I couldn't believe Bob.
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  Speaker 3: When they were auditioning me, they I'm going around fishing
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  Speaker 3: in my little astrot or my little truck with my boat,
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  Speaker 3: and I get a call and they're like, hey, we
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  Speaker 3: need you in La tomorrow. Can you get to the
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  Speaker 3: nearest airport. I'm like, well, I'm in between tournaments right now, Bob.
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  Speaker 3: I was being abducted by ABC brass as like aliens
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  Speaker 3: because I'm staying at the worst hotels or campgrounds I
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  Speaker 3: get on a I go to the airport. There's a
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  Speaker 3: one way I mean there's a round trip first class
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  Speaker 3: plane ticket waiting for me.
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  Speaker 2: Oh my god, you know the deal.
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  Speaker 3: There's a limousine, there's a driver waiting for you. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: at the airport and burbank and it's like, hello, mister Velvick.
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  Speaker 3: And I'm like, mister Velvick, like, my dad's not here.
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  Speaker 3: And then they have to they have a little signage
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  Speaker 3: and they put me in there and take me to
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  Speaker 3: a penthouse and I'm having sushi at sunset with the
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  Speaker 3: ABC people and they're just betting us. Do you remember
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  Speaker 3: they're just vetting us, right, they're getting to know. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: And every time they ask me, they'd say, why are
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  Speaker 3: you what makes you America's most eligible bachelor? I go,
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  Speaker 3: I'm not you guys keep calling me. I've never seen
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  Speaker 3: the show. I'm not America's most eligible Bachelor. I don't.
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  Speaker 3: I'm not even trying out for this thing. See.
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  Speaker 1: And I think, honest to God, like when I talk
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  Speaker 1: about our era, because I believe you and I are
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  Speaker 1: of the same era of that show, I think we're
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  Speaker 1: the same guy. Like I literally said to them, I'm
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  Speaker 1: like I'm not.
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  Speaker 2: You know.
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  Speaker 1: I remember even at my first row ceremony, I remember
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  Speaker 1: saying to the ladies, like, ladies, look, if you go
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  Speaker 1: home tonight, you're welcome because this is a disaster, you
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  Speaker 1: know what, you know, being honest, you know, I'm like,
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  Speaker 1: there's no uh, you know, we're not hot air balloon
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  Speaker 1: dating in Detroit. We're not taking a chopper into a
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  Speaker 1: you know, volcano in Detroit.
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  Speaker 3: You know we're going out.
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  Speaker 1: We're going out for dinner and maybe going to windsor
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  Speaker 1: you know, that's what they're doing tonight, to the casino
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  Speaker 1: as a fun. But yeah, I love that you had
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  Speaker 1: that kind of mindset. I'm sure that's what made him
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  Speaker 1: love you.
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  Speaker 3: They kept they kept scratching off the hard questions because
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  Speaker 3: they go, you know, all these five thousand guys tried
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  Speaker 3: out to the Bachelor, and there's me going, I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: I've watched the Weather Channel, I watched Jesse James, Monster Garage.
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  Speaker 3: You know, I'm watching just a few shows. I go,
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  Speaker 3: this is a dating reality show. And they kept telling me,
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  Speaker 3: they go, do you do you want to find somebody?
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  Speaker 3: And I said absolutely, Like I was married and I
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  Speaker 3: loved being married, and I liked that feeling of that
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  Speaker 3: ring on my finger and having that commitment no matter
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  Speaker 3: where I was in the country, I wanted that. I go.
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  Speaker 3: They go, well, we're going to get you the cleanest
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  Speaker 3: dating pool. That's what Jason Carbone, my producer at the time. Yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: I hang up my producer, Jason Carbone. He goes, We're
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  Speaker 3: going to get you the cleanest dating pool. We're going
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  Speaker 3: to you know, vet these women. And they go, have
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  Speaker 3: you ever done a dating service?
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  Speaker 1: No?
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  Speaker 3: I go, I'm back east fishing. I'm around the country.
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  Speaker 3: I all I do is fish man and but I'd
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  Speaker 3: love to have a relationship. And so to be forty
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  Speaker 3: years old and they give that to you, Bob is
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  Speaker 3: bizarre gift.
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  Speaker 2: Huh.
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  Speaker 1: And it was before dating apps and all that kind
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  Speaker 1: of stuff too, So you know, now it's probably you know,
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  Speaker 1: I guess people wouldn't be as blown away by having,
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  Speaker 1: you know, the choice of you know, thirty people to
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  Speaker 1: scroll through theoretically, but you actually got to meet all
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  Speaker 1: of them in person.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, well, well, you know.
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  Speaker 2: To talk about that moment for a second with Jay, like,
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  Speaker 2: so you.
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  Speaker 1: You and Jy meet, I'm sure with the kype of
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  Speaker 1: guy you are you probably hit it off right away
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  Speaker 1: because you seem like that, like just kind of guy,
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  Speaker 1: you big friends with everybody. I mean, was he was
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  Speaker 1: it kind of crazy for him too, because this was
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  Speaker 1: the first time they had done something like that with
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  Speaker 1: two bachelors and then the ladies make the choice. You know,
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  Speaker 1: So was it equally you know, awkward for him or
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  Speaker 1: was it awkward or were you feeling like, oh my god,
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  Speaker 1: I'm I'm auditioning for these women and then you know,
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  Speaker 1: I mean that it is crazy.
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  Speaker 3: It's so weird, Bob, because it's like, I go. I
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  Speaker 3: kept saying, I go. I know, I'm gonna go home.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I can't believe I even got this far.
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  Speaker 3: Every single time they called me back, I'm like, my
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  Speaker 3: mom lives in southern California. It's a chance for me
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  Speaker 3: to go say hi to my mom. Signed the non
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  Speaker 3: disclosure in it, but I go, I'm getting an all
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  Speaker 3: expense freed flight out there to California, get to say
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  Speaker 3: hi to mom and see my friends, but can't tell
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  Speaker 3: them what I'm doing, can't tell them all I'm there
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  Speaker 3: and seeing and Bob seeing Jay overby at the end
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  Speaker 3: was weird because you know, you go to the hotels.
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  Speaker 3: You remember when we're first auditioning, you see other guys
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  Speaker 3: at the gym, and you know they're probably there for
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  Speaker 3: the same reason you are. But going across that line, right,
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  Speaker 3: you're like, there's eight guys, ten guys, twelve guys at
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  Speaker 3: a hotel and you're like, I think all these guys
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  Speaker 3: are trying out for this bachelor thing with me, right,
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  Speaker 3: it's crazy. And then Jay and I we were a
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  Speaker 3: night and day. They had me as the city the
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  Speaker 3: country boy, good old boy, fishing outdoor guy, and he
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  Speaker 3: was pure New York City, didn't have a car, Did
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  Speaker 3: I have a car? Lived ordered all his food take out,
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  Speaker 3: did not drive, you know, realtor from New York City.
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  Speaker 3: And it was two They went polar opposite. They wanted
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  Speaker 3: did you want the New York City slicking real estate
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  Speaker 3: agent or do you want that good old boy bass
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  Speaker 3: fishermen that's out in the middle of nowhere, you know,
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  Speaker 3: trying to catch a fish for a living.
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  Speaker 2: Well, the women spoke, right, America spoke and I love it.
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  Speaker 3: When I got the most roses that night, talk about
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  Speaker 3: here crazy.
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  Speaker 2: Did you have you ever talked to Jay since? Like,
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  Speaker 2: did you guys ever keep in touch after that experience.
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  Speaker 3: No, no, we never did. We didn't keep in touch
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  Speaker 3: after that. We kind of went our separate ways, and
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  Speaker 3: we didn't. We didn't have a lot in common at
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  Speaker 3: all because we really were two totally different people.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, well obviously right. I mean it's like, you know,
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  Speaker 1: you guys just weren't. I couldn't imagine if you had
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  Speaker 1: a list of like twenty things that you guys would
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  Speaker 1: have in common. I don't think you would have gotten
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  Speaker 1: to like probably five right at that point, because you guys.
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  Speaker 3: If he doesn't have a car, he doesn't drive, he
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  Speaker 3: orders take out his dry cleaners. I haven't can't remember
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  Speaker 3: last time I went to with dry cleaners, dry cleaning
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  Speaker 3: and ordering takeout. I mean, I'm so we we didn't mesh.
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  Speaker 3: And he wanted a personal trainer for working out. I
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  Speaker 3: just work out, right, I didn't. Yeah, yeah, trainer. He
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  Speaker 3: wanted a personal trainer. And you know, I was like,
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  Speaker 3: he had a lot more. He made the people at
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  Speaker 3: the Bachelor jump through a lot more hoops than I did,
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  Speaker 3: was my understanding. They're like, dude, you are so chill,
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  Speaker 3: and you're so relaxed, and you're so you know, just
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  Speaker 3: I'll just make it work on my own, Like, I
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  Speaker 3: can't believe you guys picked me. So maybe at the
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  Speaker 3: end of this there's going to be somebody really special
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  Speaker 3: because as a four year old, like I said, divorce
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  Speaker 3: bass Fisherman, why would they take me over all of
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  Speaker 3: the different guys that really really tried out and probably
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  Speaker 3: would have been a heck a lot better than I
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  Speaker 3: was on this show. I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know about that, buddy.
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  Speaker 1: I think I honestly think for me, personality really carries it,
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  Speaker 1: and your personality speaks for itself. And at the end
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  Speaker 1: of the day, you got to be able to have
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  Speaker 1: a conversation with anybody.
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  Speaker 2: And you know, you and I both know you know.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, they they find because Carbone was my producer and
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  Speaker 1: he said pretty much the same thing to me, right,
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  Speaker 1: But it was interesting because they find amazing people, amazing
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  Speaker 1: women on those shows. But you probably realize that really
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  Speaker 1: I say this a lot and I get heat for
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  Speaker 1: it sometimes, but I hope you'll take it for how.
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  Speaker 2: I meet it.
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  Speaker 1: But I used to always say at the time, they'd
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  Speaker 1: be like, you know, well, you're America's most eligible bachelor.
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  Speaker 2: Might No, it has this show has nothing to do
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  Speaker 2: with me.
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  Speaker 1: It's called The Bachelor, but it's about these thirty women
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  Speaker 1: who have never lost anything in their lives.
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  Speaker 3: And I'm like, the I'm the monkey.
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  Speaker 1: In the metal hand and out of flower right, and
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  Speaker 1: so like, you couldn't hire anybody for this gag, you know.
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  Speaker 1: But what I used to think about it that way,
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  Speaker 1: and I would tell the new bachelors that, and I
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  Speaker 1: would get in trouble for it. They'd be like, we don't, don't.
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  Speaker 1: We don't need to be repeating that.
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  Speaker 2: I'm like, howes I do with the guy?
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  Speaker 3: You know? That's so cool. It's so cool to talk
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  Speaker 3: to you because it's like I remember, I did a
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  Speaker 3: game show a long time ago with one of them.
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  Speaker 3: You don't get to talk to anybody that's had the
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  Speaker 3: same experience as you like that now really a neat
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  Speaker 3: moment because I'm actually talking to one of the few
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  Speaker 3: people that has walked that walk with me in that experience,
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  Speaker 3: and that's just that doesn't happen to me because everybody
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  Speaker 3: just remembers you from the show, but they don't relate
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  Speaker 3: to what you and I lived in.
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  Speaker 1: It was nuts, It was nuts, and it was such
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  Speaker 1: a different time for the show too.
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  Speaker 3: So many people watched it because it wasn't diluted. You know,
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  Speaker 3: there was a lot more people watching it because you
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  Speaker 3: didn't have all the channels you got now and all
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  Speaker 3: the internet streaming stuff you have, so a lot of
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  Speaker 3: people were tuned in. And I'll never forget Bob. We're
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  Speaker 3: on that private jet where you know when they fly
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  Speaker 3: you around, and they're flying us back to see Mary's
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  Speaker 3: family in Florida, Tampa, and Jason sits next to me,
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  Speaker 3: and I'm looking down the window and stuff, and he goes,
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  Speaker 3: he goes, I got to have the talk with you.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, Jason Carbo. Right, Carbo says, I have to
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  Speaker 3: talk to you. I go talk And he goes, you
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  Speaker 3: see all those houses down there on the plane we're
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  Speaker 3: looking down. He goes, yeah, I goes four out of
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  Speaker 3: ten or three out of ten, or five out of ten, whatever,
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  Speaker 3: he goes, those people will know you, and for the
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  Speaker 3: next year you won't go through an airport without being recognized.
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  Speaker 3: And I was like, whatever, you know what I'm saying, Like,
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  Speaker 3: he's telling you the tsunami of stuff that's coming at
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  Speaker 3: you and you're just with a bunch of people shooting
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  Speaker 3: a show. But You're like, you don't realize what's coming,
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  Speaker 3: and he's like, I got to give you the country.
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  Speaker 3: I got to give you to come to Jesus that
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  Speaker 3: for the next year, you will not walk through an
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  Speaker 3: airport without being recognized. And it was. It was prophetic, man,
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  Speaker 3: because if I'm at the Flying Jay getting gas in Midland, text,
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  Speaker 3: nobody recognizes you when you're on the road fishing. But
• 13:05
  Speaker 3: once you go to a major city and you're at
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  Speaker 3: a restaurant or you're at an airport. You know what
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  Speaker 3: I'm talking about. Oh yeah, they look for it. They
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  Speaker 3: looked for familiar faces, and it was Jason was right.
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  Speaker 3: It took over a year before you stopped just being recognized.
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  Speaker 3: I know.
• 13:19
  Speaker 2: I actually I cut my hair.
• 13:21
  Speaker 1: I remember I shaved my head like brushcut style at
• 13:24
  Speaker 1: one point because everyone's like, there's the curly headed guy.
• 13:26
  Speaker 2: And they either.
• 13:26
  Speaker 3: Thought I was. They either thought it was it was Bashard.
• 13:29
  Speaker 1: Bob or Evan Marriott, the you know, a millionaire whatever
• 13:33
  Speaker 1: the guy's name was, Joe Millionaire. I was either I
• 13:36
  Speaker 1: either get one or the other, and I'm like, I
• 13:37
  Speaker 1: gotta cut my hair. But it was like one of
• 13:39
  Speaker 1: those things where you know, I still laugh about to
• 13:41
  Speaker 1: this day. My mom you know who you know, our
• 13:44
  Speaker 1: moms are always our biggest fans, of course, and my
• 13:47
  Speaker 1: mom I would go, I would go into a grocery
• 13:49
  Speaker 1: store and I would walk around in grocery shop and
• 13:51
  Speaker 1: this is this is I'm talking like three and four
• 13:54
  Speaker 1: years ago, not even you know, not even back then
• 13:56
  Speaker 1: when it was crazy, and I would be no one
• 13:59
  Speaker 1: would notice me, right, I'd be like, oh, I'm goletna
• 14:01
  Speaker 1: say I'll go chicken tonight or maybe I'll do steak,
• 14:03
  Speaker 1: you know, but if my mom is there, my mom
• 14:05
  Speaker 1: would be like, oh everywhere I go there like, aren't
• 14:07
  Speaker 1: you pastor Bob's mom. I'm like, Mom, that is simply
• 14:09
  Speaker 1: not true. She's like, no, I'm telling it. They recognize
• 14:12
  Speaker 1: me everywhere. Like mo.
• 14:14
  Speaker 3: From the date were like, oh god, no hometown dates.
• 14:18
  Speaker 3: So she's living it, she's loving it.
• 14:20
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, living her best life. So you did the show,
• 14:33
  Speaker 1: and I mean back then it was at its height
• 14:35
  Speaker 1: of viewership. I think now, you know, obviously social media
• 14:37
  Speaker 1: wasn't around back then, and so we weren't dealing with
• 14:41
  Speaker 1: all that kind of scrutiny and.
• 14:42
  Speaker 2: Stuff like that. But wasn't it kind of crazy too?
• 14:45
  Speaker 1: Like like especially like you were already in this kind
• 14:47
  Speaker 1: of elevated place, you know, with with the fishing tournaments
• 14:51
  Speaker 1: and things of that nature, where people already knew you
• 14:53
  Speaker 1: and knew you were so good at your craft. But
• 14:55
  Speaker 1: it's like now, all of a sudden, you're walking around
• 14:57
  Speaker 1: and you got everybody noticing you for something different, and
• 14:59
  Speaker 1: then we all got an opinion.
• 15:01
  Speaker 2: They all got an opinion, right.
• 15:02
  Speaker 1: So like everybody's, oh, you should have chosen Debbie, and
• 15:04
  Speaker 1: you're like, you didn't even meet Debbie.
• 15:05
  Speaker 2: You don't even know. You're done about it, but you know,
• 15:07
  Speaker 2: it was.
• 15:07
  Speaker 1: Kind of I sure it had to be kind of interesting.
• 15:09
  Speaker 1: Of course, we have you know in common. We have
• 15:12
  Speaker 1: you know Mary of course who she was on my season,
• 15:15
  Speaker 1: and then she came back because she saw you and
• 15:17
  Speaker 1: was like I need to meet that guy and loved Mary.
• 15:21
  Speaker 2: Thought she was wonderful. I mean, but it was kind
• 15:23
  Speaker 2: of crazy.
• 15:24
  Speaker 1: You were the first season that had two guys started off,
• 15:27
  Speaker 1: and you were also the first time that they allowed
• 15:29
  Speaker 1: anyone from a previous season to come back. If I'm
• 15:31
  Speaker 1: not mistaken, and our producers can check that, but I'm
• 15:34
  Speaker 1: pretty sure because even on my season, which was only
• 15:37
  Speaker 1: basically one season priority to yours filming. I remember after
• 15:41
  Speaker 1: my first Rose ceremony night, I said, you know, I
• 15:44
  Speaker 1: sent someone home who I was right on the just
• 15:47
  Speaker 1: for me. I didn't get enough time spend with it.
• 15:49
  Speaker 1: By the way, I was really interested. Is there any
• 15:51
  Speaker 1: way I could meet? Like nope, they don't break the
• 15:53
  Speaker 1: rules for anybody, you know. And then your season comes
• 15:55
  Speaker 1: along and it's just a rule breaking season. They got
• 15:57
  Speaker 1: two guys started off, and the women vote and then
• 15:59
  Speaker 1: you take around and they bring somebody back from a
• 16:01
  Speaker 1: previous season who sees you and is immediately in love.
• 16:04
  Speaker 1: And it's like, I mean, you know, God bless you
• 16:07
  Speaker 1: because I think the show needed all of those wrinkles
• 16:09
  Speaker 1: for sure. But that had to be crazy too, Like
• 16:11
  Speaker 1: all of a sudden, you have someone coming back who
• 16:14
  Speaker 1: you hadn't really watched the show previously, so you probably
• 16:16
  Speaker 1: didn't even know.
• 16:17
  Speaker 3: Her from that there why they were there?
• 16:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, because you had two women come back, right.
• 16:22
  Speaker 3: You know? The routine is that you have a date
• 16:24
  Speaker 3: plan and you pick out they kind of pick out
• 16:25
  Speaker 3: the date, they pick out the girl. You guys talk
• 16:27
  Speaker 3: about it and it's like every night there's when it's
• 16:29
  Speaker 3: getting down towards the end, right, and then Bob one night.
• 16:32
  Speaker 3: One night, they're like, we're not picking anybody tonight, but
• 16:36
  Speaker 3: you need to get dressed. And there was a they
• 16:37
  Speaker 3: had Austin Aston Martin Austin, Martin Carr waiting for me,
• 16:41
  Speaker 3: and I drove downtown, but nobody's in the car with me.
• 16:44
  Speaker 3: I'm like, what's going on here? And I'd never seen
• 16:47
  Speaker 3: the show, so I think the reason they brought these
• 16:48
  Speaker 3: girl back is they knew I would have no clue
• 16:50
  Speaker 3: who these girls are. Come up an elevator, they come
• 16:53
  Speaker 3: up an elevator, they come out, and I'm thinking, I'm thinking,
• 16:56
  Speaker 3: like this is like one of those other ambush shows
• 17:00
  Speaker 3: where they're going to tell me some dirt about the
• 17:02
  Speaker 3: girls because it's down to the last ten. There's ten
• 17:04
  Speaker 3: girls left on the show. And then all of a sudden,
• 17:07
  Speaker 3: they take me to the downtown nasty area, like skid
• 17:11
  Speaker 3: row area, and there's this building that's all lit up
• 17:14
  Speaker 3: and they have candles everywhere, the typical bachelor set, and
• 17:17
  Speaker 3: they have the elevator and they have one of the
• 17:19
  Speaker 3: producers dressed up like a bartender, and they sit me
• 17:21
  Speaker 3: down in a chair and they have a cocktail. I
• 17:23
  Speaker 3: mean I'm on a date by myself in the middle
• 17:25
  Speaker 3: of the whole show, and I'm like, what is going on?
• 17:28
  Speaker 3: Why am I on a date by myself? I mean,
• 17:31
  Speaker 3: fancy are beautiful set, And this elevator opens up and
• 17:34
  Speaker 3: these two girls are there and they're both beautiful. But
• 17:36
  Speaker 3: I'm like, okay, and I'm thinking, maybe the girls are
• 17:39
  Speaker 3: there just to tell me some bad stuff on the
• 17:41
  Speaker 3: girls that are in the.
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: Show, right, all right, yes, that makes sense.
• 17:45
  Speaker 3: And so of course the audience is like, oh my god,
• 17:47
  Speaker 3: it's Heather from whatever season and Mary from Bob season.
• 17:50
  Speaker 3: You know. So the joke was on me because they
• 17:53
  Speaker 3: have to tell me they're what's called Bachelor All Stars.
• 17:56
  Speaker 3: And they all start they go, We're Bachelor All Stars
• 17:59
  Speaker 3: and I'm like, I have no idea what's going on?
• 18:01
  Speaker 3: And they go, well, we're coming back on the show.
• 18:03
  Speaker 3: And I'm like, do the ten girls back home know
• 18:05
  Speaker 3: about this?
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: They're gonna know, Yeah, they're gonna know.
• 18:08
  Speaker 4: It's gonna be a shark that's back there, like you
• 18:12
  Speaker 4: two girls are coming on, and they had they had
• 18:14
  Speaker 4: I think it was Heather and she was like an
• 18:16
  Speaker 4: outdoor newsgirl and she worked in the fishing industry, and
• 18:20
  Speaker 4: then married Algato from your season and I didn't know,
• 18:24
  Speaker 4: so that was that was wildly bizarre, and it was.
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: All that it was the first time they threw like
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: chum in the water, to use some fishing terms there,
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: I guess the first.
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: Time they ever did that. Thank you, buddy, thank you,
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: thank you.
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: But it was I had to I remember watching because
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: I at the time, I was still watching the show,
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: like I don't really watch it as much as I
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: probably should now, but as I remember watching the show,
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: and I'm like, oh my god, this is amazing because
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: I loved Mary, you know, and I and I knew Heather,
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: but I didn't know her as well. But I was like,
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: oh my god, this is gonna be so interesting because
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: you had some great women on your season already, but
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: it was like to bring that wrinkling automatically. All the
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: women are going to know who they are, right because
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: they're probably all fans of the show. Like I could
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: only imagine going back to that mansion with those with
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: those ladies and tell.
• 19:08
  Speaker 3: So Jason Carbone, he said, the whole time they're getting
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: to know me and I'm on the show, they're thinking, man,
• 19:14
  Speaker 3: Mary Delgado would be a great fit for this guy.
• 19:16
  Speaker 3: That's what they kept saying, you know, and so I'll
• 19:18
  Speaker 3: never forget Bob. I get out of this Austin Martin,
• 19:21
  Speaker 3: you know, downtown, and Jason grabs me. He was always
• 19:24
  Speaker 3: very dramatic with those big glasses, and he Goesron Byron,
• 19:28
  Speaker 3: he goes, this might be the night that changes the
• 19:31
  Speaker 3: rest of your life. He goes, enjoy and I'm like,
• 19:34
  Speaker 3: I like, I'm by myself. What are you talking about?
• 19:37
  Speaker 3: Like we're shooting b roll here, aren't we We're shooting
• 19:39
  Speaker 3: bole or something like like there's nobody with me, and
• 19:42
  Speaker 3: he goes, I'm just letting you know tonight's night that
• 19:44
  Speaker 3: might change your life, because he said through the course
• 19:46
  Speaker 3: of the show, he kept saying, Mary, Mary, you know,
• 19:49
  Speaker 3: we should really bring back Mary, And it was I
• 19:51
  Speaker 3: think they were kind of they were looking for a
• 19:53
  Speaker 3: successful bachelor, you know, they were and the older and
• 19:55
  Speaker 3: they were a successful show, a proposal and everything.
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: I'll never forget the night that I let Mary go
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: on my season of the show. And I don't know
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: who was more heartbroken me or Carbone, honestly, because he
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: was like he was like, I just think he's like,
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: you know, honestly, for me, it was to be really honest,
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: I remember thinking Mary was more emotionally mature than I was,
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: to such a degree that she was she was ready
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: for that next step, and I was like uncertain, you
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: know what I mean.
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: And so I was like, I don't know how I feel.
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: And that's why I ended up dating after the show
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: instead of proposing, because I was still at this place.
• 20:35
  Speaker 3: You were in your thirties. I mean, look, you were
• 20:38
  Speaker 3: ten years younger than me, so I had lived that life.
• 20:41
  Speaker 3: I had dated. I'm like, I don't need to play
• 20:43
  Speaker 3: that field or the rock star card, Like I'm not
• 20:45
  Speaker 3: going to fall into you know, I'm not going to
• 20:47
  Speaker 3: come off the show and just start, you know, like
• 20:49
  Speaker 3: I've been there, done that, and I just forty years old.
• 20:52
  Speaker 3: It'd be nice to have a great relationship. And that's
• 20:54
  Speaker 3: where they they did. Yeah, they said this guy's legit.
• 20:58
  Speaker 3: I proposed on the show and we lasted yea for
• 21:00
  Speaker 3: four and a half years.
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah, which is amazing.
• 21:02
  Speaker 3: I mean, tried to make it work.
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: They needed the show, and I.
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: Think you're right, you know, I think from the standpoint
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: of the show needed a proposal, because if you think
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: about it, they they did not get one out of
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: Alex Michelle the first guy, or did they I don't think.
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: I don't know if they the interned is, but I know
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: they didn't get one out of they did with Andrew
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: fire or they didn't get one out of Aaron Burgie.
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: They got one with their Andrew Firestone, they didn't with
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: me right, and then Jesse didn't propose, and they and
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: so they needed someone who was serious about it.
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: Not that the other guys weren't serious, but you know,
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: it's like it's like you get a lottery ticket.
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: And you know, I've said this a few times when
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: talking about the Batch, like you get this lottery ticket
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: in life, where all of a sudden, here are thirty
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: women who all could be potentially great for you, you know,
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: and it's like right, but they might not be right,
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: and so you're not going to know until you go
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: through the process. And I was so excited when you
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: and Mary, you know, ended up together on the show.
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: And then you know, obviously four years together, five years
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: together by today's standard, that's a great relationship anyway.
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: But you go to a TV show.
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: That's that's next level, man, that's like Silver Anniversary style,
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: you know, from a TV show data, you know, situation,
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: and yeah, I mean obviously you guys didn't end up
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: getting married, but had a great relationship, had a great
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: run together. I think, you know, when people look back
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: at the show, they look so favorably upon your season
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: because it was a return of someone who they loved
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: from a season before. But it was also the women
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: got to choose the guy, you know, because that's the
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: other part about the show that is interesting, right, Like
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: all these women get out of the limo, you know,
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: most seasons, they don't know who it's going to be.
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: Yet now they do pretty regularly, but back then they
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: didn't know they get two guys, right, and now they've
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: got the ability to instead of just hoping for a rose,
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: they get to give the row. It was almost like
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: the Bachelorette. First episode was the Bacherette, the rest was
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: a bachelor.
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 22:51
  Speaker 3: It's kind of great, right, And what was cool they
• 22:53
  Speaker 3: actually I saw something come up years later that said
• 22:56
  Speaker 3: it was the most romantic proposal because I knew her
• 22:59
  Speaker 3: mom and dad didn't speak English, you know, that's from Cuba,
• 23:02
  Speaker 3: and they spoke Spanish. And I told the producers and said,
• 23:05
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna learn I want to know exactly how to
• 23:06
  Speaker 3: say will you marry me? In Spanish so her family,
• 23:09
  Speaker 3: her mom and dad, hear it, you know, without subtitles.
• 23:12
  Speaker 3: They want her mom and dad to hear me and
• 23:13
  Speaker 3: propose to her in Spanish, you know. And even now
• 23:16
  Speaker 3: kind of gives me some chills.
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: I love that you did that.
• 23:18
  Speaker 3: At the time, I'm like, I want to say it
• 23:20
  Speaker 3: in Spanish, so most importantly her mom and dad and
• 23:23
  Speaker 3: her hear it in their native language and they can
• 23:26
  Speaker 3: subtitle it. But but I wanted it to be special
• 23:29
  Speaker 3: because I went on that show. Bob and I had
• 23:32
  Speaker 3: a couple dear, dear, close people, one of which is
• 23:35
  Speaker 3: my grandfather, you know, the real I was talking about.
• 23:37
  Speaker 3: My grandfather always wanted me to have a great relationship
• 23:40
  Speaker 3: and always kept asking my mom when is he going
• 23:42
  Speaker 3: to find a good woman? When's he gonna find a
• 23:43
  Speaker 3: good woman. And then my dear friend Steve Oliver, I
• 23:45
  Speaker 3: had like a brother of mine, Jeff Oliver, when they
• 23:48
  Speaker 3: both passed away shortly before this thing, and they both
• 23:51
  Speaker 3: used to say Jeff was a Bachelor fan and he
• 23:53
  Speaker 3: always told his dad Steve, my mentor he goes Byron
• 23:57
  Speaker 3: needs to be on the Bachelor Byron needs on the match,
• 23:59
  Speaker 3: and then tragically I had at twenty uh, and it
• 24:01
  Speaker 3: was oh, my gosh, died at twenty and he was
• 24:04
  Speaker 3: a Bachelor fan. And my grandfather passes away, and then
• 24:07
  Speaker 3: all of a sudden, they start calling me, and I'm thinking,
• 24:10
  Speaker 3: this is like, I'm gonna be weird here, but that's
• 24:12
  Speaker 3: like divine intervention.
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: I was going to say divine invention. I was just
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: going to say.
• 24:15
  Speaker 3: That there's something at the end of this experience where
• 24:17
  Speaker 3: I'm going to take it very serious. If they picked
• 24:20
  Speaker 3: me and I become the one, I'm not messing around
• 24:22
  Speaker 3: with this. I took notes at night after the dates.
• 24:25
  Speaker 3: I would take notes back in my little room my dogs,
• 24:28
  Speaker 3: and my dog Sabrina was there, but I was taking
• 24:30
  Speaker 3: I had a whole I had all these diaries because
• 24:32
  Speaker 3: I'm like, for you, you weren't in that place. But
• 24:35
  Speaker 3: at forty years old and being divorced, I was totally
• 24:37
  Speaker 3: in that place. Like I was totally in that place.
• 24:39
  Speaker 3: And and my two people that were the closest to
• 24:42
  Speaker 3: me that passed away, I'm like, this is happening for
• 24:44
  Speaker 3: a reason. Maybe the one is at the end of it.
• 24:47
  Speaker 3: And I wanted so badly for the one to be
• 24:50
  Speaker 3: at the end of it. And uh and so yeah,
• 24:53
  Speaker 3: when I proposed to Mary and those you know, the
• 24:55
  Speaker 3: beginning of that relationship, I was one hundred percent convinced
• 24:58
  Speaker 3: that this was our this was our destiny. And The Bachelor,
• 25:01
  Speaker 3: like Trista and Ryan, this this show put me Arey
• 25:03
  Speaker 3: and I together, brought you guys together. Yeah, because because
• 25:06
  Speaker 3: why else would I be on The Bachelor unless Grandpa
• 25:09
  Speaker 3: and Jeff Oliver. You know, we're handing me an opportunity
• 25:12
  Speaker 3: to meet somebody. I wasn't gonna meet him fishing. I
• 25:15
  Speaker 3: wasn't a campground in Mississippi.
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: I love that, man, Byron, I love that story. I
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: did not know that. I love that. I think that's
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: so special man.
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: That shows you know why your sincerity really, you know,
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: really showed through because you were in this right place
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: of mind. And I mean, you know, nothing like heartbreak
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: to set you up for for you know, love, right,
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: I mean, you had this heartbreak that really made you
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: kind of do a gut check on yourself where you
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: were in your life.
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: I love that. I absolutely love that. Now.
• 25:43
  Speaker 3: I saw Steve Oliver right aftering that show. Steve was
• 25:46
  Speaker 3: the dad Steve was Jeff's dad, and uh, right after
• 25:49
  Speaker 3: the show, when when we got to come out from
• 25:51
  Speaker 3: under our you know, NDA and everything, Yeah, yeah, I
• 25:53
  Speaker 3: gave him a big hug and I said, you know,
• 25:55
  Speaker 3: this is Jeff Jeff. I want to get emotional, you know,
• 25:58
  Speaker 3: I go, you know, Jeff, Jeff, that's Jeff making this happen.
• 26:01
  Speaker 3: And we both had tears in our eyes and we're
• 26:02
  Speaker 3: just like, yep, that's that's Jeff and Grandpa and they
• 26:05
  Speaker 3: made they they made this happen. Because how does how
• 26:08
  Speaker 3: does a guy get discovered, you know, out of the
• 26:10
  Speaker 3: left field back east, just fishing professionally and get called
• 26:14
  Speaker 3: up and ABC turns him into the Bachelor. So so
• 26:17
  Speaker 3: I to this day, I was like, that was meant
• 26:19
  Speaker 3: to be something. What a life?
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah change, And you know what, I think there's different
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: levels of success for for relationships too, Like you know,
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: your relationship was a success even though it didn't you know,
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: culminate in forever, it doesn't mean it didn't have a
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: huge impact on your life and your heart and and
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: where you are today.
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: And I think that you know, we all meet the.
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: People we meet in life for for for different reasons
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: and for different times, you know, and and good for you, man,
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: I love I love that story, and I love hearing
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: about your connection to your friend and your grandpa and it's.
• 26:49
  Speaker 3: It was touching.
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: It was touch and touching.
• 26:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but the life experience, you know, you go, you
• 26:53
  Speaker 3: go into this place where you lose our, your anonymity,
• 26:54
  Speaker 3: and boy, you realize how pressure it is to be anonymous. Like, yeah,
• 26:58
  Speaker 3: you go back, you know, you when you finally get
• 27:00
  Speaker 3: back to the point where people aren't recognizing you, and
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: I got God, I really feel bad for Heather Locklear
• 27:04
  Speaker 3: and you know, or Brad Pitt or Jen Aniston or
• 27:08
  Speaker 3: you know all those all the people that lived under
• 27:11
  Speaker 3: that light the whole time because forever. Yeah, yeah, I
• 27:14
  Speaker 3: can't imagine, because I really enjoyed it. When I finally
• 27:17
  Speaker 3: stopped being you know, I went back into fishing. I
• 27:19
  Speaker 3: didn't want to become anything else. Besides, we'll go right
• 27:22
  Speaker 3: back into professional fishing and share you on TV shows
• 27:25
  Speaker 3: on ESPN and all that stuff. And so it was
• 27:27
  Speaker 3: a springboard form of more fishing television, which is where
• 27:29
  Speaker 3: my heart was at right.
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: No, I love that.
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: I love that, and it's what a better entree to,
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: you know, go back to where you were, just going
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: back with a little bit even more, not that you'd
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: already had huge success in your industry, but now you
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: go back a little more notoriety and maybe can bring
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: some fans from other walks who didn't know about professional
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: fishing or as much about what you had done already
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: and accomplished already, and now they do. And yeah, I
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: love I love the whole thing, man, I think it's
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: so awesome. Now.
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: I know you have a daughter, right so yep.
• 28:00
  Speaker 3: And thirteen thirteen years old. She'll tell you she's fourteen
• 28:04
  Speaker 3: and a half and she's every day to that. She
• 28:05
  Speaker 3: got to say it. She's fifteen and every day I
• 28:07
  Speaker 3: take her to school and every day I drop her off.
• 28:09
  Speaker 3: And right now, the reason we're perfect at one thirty is,
• 28:12
  Speaker 3: you know, at three thirty I turned into a dad
• 28:14
  Speaker 3: pumpkin again. I think she either has put vaulting this
• 28:16
  Speaker 3: afternoon or she's a pole vaulter and a volleyball player.
• 28:19
  Speaker 3: So I know, at fourteen you just run them around
• 28:22
  Speaker 3: to their sports. But I'm single dadding it, so yeah,
• 28:25
  Speaker 3: full blown single dad and spend all my time, you
• 28:28
  Speaker 3: know now really just kind of working on some fishing stuff.
• 28:31
  Speaker 3: I do the podcast. I work with my sponsors, and
• 28:35
  Speaker 3: but everything is based here in San Antonio because my
• 28:37
  Speaker 3: daughter goes to school every day, you know, six miles
• 28:40
  Speaker 3: away from my house right here.
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: I love it.
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: Well, Okay, so I know you you you know you're
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: not necessarily you're not married any longer.
• 28:58
  Speaker 3: Are you dating now? Are you? Are you?
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: Are you out there?
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: And what's it like to be the former Bachelor and
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: to be dating?
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: Is that crazy?
• 29:08
  Speaker 3: Dating isn't easy because when you have a minor child,
• 29:10
  Speaker 3: it's difficult because you're focused on It's like I always said,
• 29:14
  Speaker 3: who really wants to see you? When you have you know,
• 29:17
  Speaker 3: you don't have I don't have anybody else sharing custody,
• 29:20
  Speaker 3: and it's not like I have babysitters and you know people,
• 29:23
  Speaker 3: so ultimately it's it's difficult. Dating is really difficult and challenging.
• 29:28
  Speaker 3: And I knew early on when I had to quit
• 29:30
  Speaker 3: my career and come home when the divorce started and
• 29:33
  Speaker 3: it came out of left field at twenty sixteen, I
• 29:35
  Speaker 3: had to leave a very lucrative job because by then
• 29:38
  Speaker 3: I was doing television, I had sponsors, I was working,
• 29:41
  Speaker 3: I had because of the Bachelor. The TV thing exploded
• 29:44
  Speaker 3: in outdoor programming. And then suddenly I realized the wheels
• 29:48
  Speaker 3: were coming off back home, and I had a five
• 29:50
  Speaker 3: year old daughter at the house, and I'm like, I
• 29:52
  Speaker 3: got to go home. So I was in the middle
• 29:54
  Speaker 3: of my I was at the beginning of my season.
• 29:55
  Speaker 3: I had just fished Florida. I was on my way
• 29:57
  Speaker 3: to South Carolina for the next tournament, and I finally
• 30:00
  Speaker 3: got the wake up call that I I gotta I
• 30:03
  Speaker 3: gotta call my sponsors everybody and drive home and and
• 30:06
  Speaker 3: circle the wagon and become a full time dad or
• 30:09
  Speaker 3: or you know, get into that thing with dad where
• 30:11
  Speaker 3: it's like so once you do that, Bob, it's not easy, man,
• 30:15
  Speaker 3: because suddenly you got this little girl. It's like, you know,
• 30:18
  Speaker 3: it's who are you going to bring into her life.
• 30:21
  Speaker 3: I don't want to ask her there just to help
• 30:22
  Speaker 3: raise her, and I don't want to put put that
• 30:25
  Speaker 3: on anybody or have a relationship that's not worth anything
• 30:28
  Speaker 3: except that my daughter loves the girl, and the girl
• 30:30
  Speaker 3: loves my daughter. So now you can't you know, you
• 30:32
  Speaker 3: can't even value how that relationship is because you're so
• 30:35
  Speaker 3: busy say well, my daughter loves her, she loves my daughter,
• 30:38
  Speaker 3: so even though this thing would have never lasted under
• 30:40
  Speaker 3: normal circumstances. Now I'm gonna let this thing, or what
• 30:43
  Speaker 3: if the girl just doesn't like me and leaves and
• 30:45
  Speaker 3: breaks my daughter's heart? There were hearts, Yeah, you know,
• 30:49
  Speaker 3: there was too many moving parts. So I said, I
• 30:51
  Speaker 3: got to protect my kid. And dating with a minor
• 30:54
  Speaker 3: child is not a good, not a good, not a
• 30:57
  Speaker 3: good situation.
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I could imagine it'd be tough too, Like you
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: don't want to parading random's in, you know, And yeah,
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: I totally understand that.
• 31:05
  Speaker 3: Dude, she didn't even know I was on The Bachelor.
• 31:07
  Speaker 3: I kept it a secret until she was twelve. Seven.
• 31:10
  Speaker 3: Is amazing people would come up and recognize me, And
• 31:13
  Speaker 3: you said this earlier. You know, when people come up
• 31:15
  Speaker 3: and they recognize you, you hope they say, aren't you
• 31:17
  Speaker 3: the Fishermen? And then you feel this connection, right, but
• 31:20
  Speaker 3: they aren't you? And they said the Bachelor. You're like, uh,
• 31:24
  Speaker 3: because then they're going to ask you about the current show,
• 31:26
  Speaker 3: which I haven't watched, or yeast season, and I go,
• 31:29
  Speaker 3: I never watched it after I left the show. It's
• 31:31
  Speaker 3: just sorry, but I didn't have a podcast or aning.
• 31:33
  Speaker 3: I had no reason to watch it, so people think
• 31:36
  Speaker 3: that you're following the franchise. And I'm like, I was
• 31:39
  Speaker 3: in and out. I was in, I did the show,
• 31:41
  Speaker 3: and I was back to fishing.
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you said that to me the other day. You're like,
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: I didn't watch it before I was on it, and
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: I didn't watch it.
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: After it since.
• 31:47
  Speaker 3: But my daughter's twelve years old, Bob, and she's had
• 31:49
  Speaker 3: her little swim thing and the coach is there, and
• 31:52
  Speaker 3: the coach's daughter comes running out to the parking lot
• 31:54
  Speaker 3: because the coach, my daughter's swim coach tells her daughter,
• 31:57
  Speaker 3: who's back from college, Byron's the Bachelor. This little girl
• 32:01
  Speaker 3: comes right off to the parking lot. I'll never forget it.
• 32:03
  Speaker 3: She's like, oh my god, oh my god. She goes,
• 32:05
  Speaker 3: my mom just told me you're the Bachelor. And my
• 32:07
  Speaker 3: daughter's twelve. She goes, what what And the girl goes,
• 32:10
  Speaker 3: you're the Bachelor. I go, no, no, no, I'm a
• 32:12
  Speaker 3: fishing guy and I did a segment on that show.
• 32:14
  Speaker 3: And she goes, no, you weren't, No, you weren't your
• 32:16
  Speaker 3: Bachelor season six, and cam my daughter goes, my mom
• 32:20
  Speaker 3: watches that show. She says, her mom watches that show.
• 32:25
  Speaker 3: They're not even anymore. And I'm like Camber and so
• 32:29
  Speaker 3: about twelve years old, she found out I was on
• 32:31
  Speaker 3: the Bachelor. Took seven years.
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, you.
• 32:35
  Speaker 3: Know what, you're a better man than me. My son.
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: I will literally take my son and both boys. I
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: have a seven year old and a four and a
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: half year old, and I'll take both boys to McDonald's playland,
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: right and they'll be up there playing and the little
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: you know, a fifteen or sixteen year old kid working
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: will come over with the tray with milkshakes and French
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: fries on them, and my son will yell from the place.
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: Cape, yeah, that's him. He'll take a picture with you.
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: I'm like, and my youngest ago, my youngest to say
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: he's Bob the Builder.
• 33:05
  Speaker 3: Bob the Builder. I love it.
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: So the oldest one knows, the oldest one knows about
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: the Bachelor, but it's never seen it. And then the
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: younger one, Uh, the younger one thinks I'm Bob the Builder.
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: So you know, from that perspective, I guess we both
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: have done a pretty decent job of shielding him from
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: some of that stuff.
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: But yeah, nice shot, nice job, man. I love hearing that.
• 33:23
  Speaker 3: Story. Yeah, I got a daughter that he doesn't need
• 33:26
  Speaker 3: to watch it, you know. And I only found out
• 33:28
  Speaker 3: just recently that you can actually see it online because
• 33:30
  Speaker 3: I was always told you couldn't see the early episodes.
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I didn't know you could. I've never found.
• 33:36
  Speaker 3: Out last week that apparently they show up on two
• 33:39
  Speaker 3: B or something like that, like you can. I had
• 33:41
  Speaker 3: no idea that they released the early episodes. And I'm
• 33:44
  Speaker 3: giving it away now and I'm sure my daughter is
• 33:45
  Speaker 3: now going to go watch it, but she's never seen it.
• 33:48
  Speaker 3: I have DVDs, dude, all I got to the DVDs.
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: Same, Yeah, so if my mom has them somewhere, I
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: don't even know where they are.
• 33:53
  Speaker 3: But you know what's crazy is when we were in
• 33:55
  Speaker 3: the mix, we were doing so many promotions that I
• 33:58
  Speaker 3: never really watched the show, like, yeah, truly, I've never
• 34:01
  Speaker 3: sat and watched the DVDs. And you know, and now
• 34:04
  Speaker 3: that I know it might be streaming, like I never
• 34:06
  Speaker 3: ever watched the show, and a crazy thing happened. I
• 34:09
  Speaker 3: don't know if you experienced this, but like maybe eight
• 34:11
  Speaker 3: years ago or whatever it was, VH one aired the
• 34:14
  Speaker 3: whole franchise. Do you remember that?
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: Yes?
• 34:16
  Speaker 3: And so suddenly you were probably getting recognized again. I
• 34:18
  Speaker 3: was getting recognized again because VH one was airing The Bachelor,
• 34:22
  Speaker 3: So it's like all of a sudden, people were like, Hey,
• 34:24
  Speaker 3: I'm watching VH one right now and your seasons on.
• 34:27
  Speaker 3: Don't tell me who you picked, Like, don't tell me
• 34:29
  Speaker 3: who you picked? Hey, did you ever have the experience?
• 34:33
  Speaker 3: So I'm walking through an airport and people are like, hey,
• 34:36
  Speaker 3: don't pick don't pick Jennifer next week, like the show
• 34:39
  Speaker 3: was live. You're like what And They're like, I don't
• 34:42
  Speaker 3: know how you gave cart Carritt Kathy a rose, but
• 34:45
  Speaker 3: don't pick Jennifer. She's no good. And I'm like, dude,
• 34:48
  Speaker 3: that show was This is not a live show. It's
• 34:53
  Speaker 3: not in real time here. I'm not gonna put on
• 34:55
  Speaker 3: a suit next Wednesday and go back and give out
• 34:57
  Speaker 3: more roses. Well, that's funny.
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: That is so funny. I did. I used to get
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: it all the time. In fact, it was kind of interesting.
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: You know, my season was I think I'm not sure
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: how yours was at the end, but I noticed that
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: they at the time, they still liked to make it
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: look like it was going to be the other person
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: that you picked. So the edits toward the end were
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: really pushing that relationship, and then all of a sudden,
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: you propose to the other one.
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: So the crowd goes, oh my god. So I'll never forget.
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: The next day after the finale aired, and I chose
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: a woman named Estella, and Estella and I are on
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: our way to the airport and in the in the
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: on the radio, they're like, you know, can you believe
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: Bob picked her? I mean, we thought for sure. And
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: I felt so bad. I was like, you know, that's
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: just editing, right, It's.
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: Just that, Like I was because I felt so bad
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: because it was just editing.
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: I mean, obviously she she and I had a great relationship,
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: but I had a great relationship too with with the
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: with I mean really my whole Final four, but with
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: Kelly Joe in particular, and Estella, I felt like, I mean,
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: it was just it was so difficult, you know, at
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: that time. But yeah, look, man, it's so fun to
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: have you on and nice to connect with you. I mean,
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: I've heard just a nice stuff about you forever, and
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: it's so great. You know, when you meet somebody and
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: you hear great things and it's all true.
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: So I love. I love that I get to meet you. Man,
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: thank you for coming on the pod.
• 36:09
  Speaker 3: I appreciate it. Man, I appreciate it having me on.
• 36:11
  Speaker 3: And like I said, if anybody wants to cross over
• 36:13
  Speaker 3: and check out a podcast, I'm still every week I
• 36:15
  Speaker 3: do fishtails. You know, it's just a little it's probably
• 36:18
  Speaker 3: be boring to them unless they're like fishing, but it's
• 36:20
  Speaker 3: it's kind of fun to do that and it's keeping
• 36:22
  Speaker 3: me busy. And I just appreciate you guys calling to
• 36:24
  Speaker 3: have me on. And man, it's cool to talk to
• 36:26
  Speaker 3: one person that lived it. It's been years year. Aaron Bergie.
• 36:30
  Speaker 3: When we did a game show a million years ago,
• 36:33
  Speaker 3: Aaron was the only other person I could talk to
• 36:34
  Speaker 3: about the show. Man.
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: He's a great one too, isn't he. I love that dude, cool, great, Yeah,
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: absolutely love him. He Actually when I was still living
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: out in Seattle, he and I connected. We ran into
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: each other at the Kentucky Derby and yeah, and he
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: was like, man, we need to get together. And you know,
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: people say that kind of stuff all the time, right,
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: and and then all of a sudden he was like, Hey,
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: my wife and I are going to come out to Seattle.
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: Can we you know, can we can we get together?
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: I'm like, stay with us, and he did.
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: They did.
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: They came and stayed with us at our place and
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: we just had the greatest time with them. And and
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: so I meet it when I I mean it when
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: I say this to you, Byron, the invitation is open.
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: If ever you're coming to Michigan, please man, please keep
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: my number, give me a call and uh, and let's
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: get together and we'll have some fun and I'll show
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: you around some some spots over on the west side
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: of the state, which I'm sure you haven't seen too
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: much of yet.
• 37:24
  Speaker 3: I would love it if my daughter and I are
• 37:26
  Speaker 3: ever out that way. You know, who knows where travels
• 37:29
  Speaker 3: are gonna take us, but I would love to check
• 37:30
  Speaker 3: out Michigan with you. So hey, same thing with you.
• 37:33
  Speaker 3: If you come to San Antonio and you're gonna see
• 37:35
  Speaker 3: Riverwalk again, you know we're not. We're thirty minutes from Riverwalk,
• 37:38
  Speaker 3: so we'll come see you.
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: I will.
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna actually add San Antonio to your contact on
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: my phone because I want to. I want to make
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: sure I reach out to because I absolutely love that area.
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: I think it's so cool and it's such a great
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: area and you know people are great down there.
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: So yeah, well thank you man, thank you for joining
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: us too.
• 37:54
  Speaker 3: Yeah, thanks for coming on the pod.
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: And uh, you know, like I said, my brother in
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: law and his i'll say his name, I'm Phil Maher,
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: my brother in law Jadie Tomorrow and Film Maher. They
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: are big added listeners of yours and they love the show.
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: So so when I I told him I'm not even
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: kiddy man, it was like they got is like all
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: of a sudden, I told him I was talking to Elvis.
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: They were like so fired up.
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: You know, They're like, told, we need to get him
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: into a walleye. We get him into walleye though we
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: got I'm like, all right, I'll let him know.
• 38:19
  Speaker 3: I need to have one of them on as a guest.
• 38:20
  Speaker 3: I could have Bob Guiney's brother on as a guest
• 38:22
  Speaker 3: on Fish Tank. That would be that would be a
• 38:25
  Speaker 3: nice full circle.
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: He will talk your ear off. I'm telling you, he's
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: he's he makes us look quiet.
• 38:30
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that's a good tie in Bob. I mean,
• 38:32
  Speaker 3: it's like every week we have a different guest. Why
• 38:34
  Speaker 3: not have him on and say that the connection with
• 38:36
  Speaker 3: this guy is it's Bob Guiney's brother. I did Bob's
• 38:39
  Speaker 3: podcast and now I got his brother. I'm talking and
• 38:42
  Speaker 3: we do fishing like or dude, I'm not. I will
• 38:46
  Speaker 3: one hundred percent do it because right now the sponsors
• 38:48
  Speaker 3: are saying, yeah, we do a bunch of bass stuff.
• 38:50
  Speaker 3: We did one saltwater guy who has a TV show.
• 38:53
  Speaker 3: He used to be a guest on my show when
• 38:54
  Speaker 3: I have a saltwater show on ESPN. So now he
• 38:57
  Speaker 3: has a show on ESPN call Unfathomed. And so we've
• 39:00
  Speaker 3: done a little bit of salt water. But I would
• 39:02
  Speaker 3: love to have your brother on Fishtails. If he's oh
• 39:04
  Speaker 3: my gosh, he will lose his mind. So I'm not joking,
• 39:08
  Speaker 3: Like if you text it and say okay, and then
• 39:09
  Speaker 3: I'll tie you. Yes, I'll say, guys, this is cool.
• 39:12
  Speaker 3: Because Bob had me on his podcast. We got to
• 39:15
  Speaker 3: talking about it and here's Bob Guiney's brother and let's
• 39:17
  Speaker 3: talk Walley. Dude, I'm not joking it.
• 39:20
  Speaker 2: Okay, I'm gonna text you. I'm gonna text you right.
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: At the end of this so that we can we
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: can connect about this because he would lose his mind.
• 39:27
  Speaker 3: I would love it and then I got my first guy.
• 39:29
  Speaker 3: It's my fast.
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: He will probably he'll probably want.
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: To pull in his buddy Phil, because Phil is even
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: more more of an avid guy than.
• 39:39
  Speaker 3: I wanted to be. Like you remember the Great White North,
• 39:41
  Speaker 3: you know.
• 39:41
  Speaker 5: The on I want you on his friend, I want
• 39:47
  Speaker 5: you in the studio, and then it's gonna be like like,
• 39:51
  Speaker 5: you know, how you doing?
• 39:52
  Speaker 3: Good?
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: Dog? I used to love that show.
• 39:56
  Speaker 3: Remember s c TV. Yeah, yes, it was amazing.
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: Oh my god, that you know they always say that's
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: what led to uh Bill and Ted, that's what led
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: to all you know everything. So yeah, Bob and Doug
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: McKenzie from brother Doug McKenzie from the Great White North,
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: I love it is.
• 40:14
  Speaker 3: Your brother and his friend are gonna be wileye guests.
• 40:16
  Speaker 3: So this is oh my god.
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: I'm in all right, I'm gonna connect with you after
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: the show. Thank you so much for joining us almost
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: famous the Ogs ladies, gentlemen, A true o g and
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: a great a great, great guy man Byron. Thank you
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  Speaker 1: so much, brother, and and let's definitely connect off.
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  Speaker 2: Take care, everybody, Thanks for listening.
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