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Patriots Unfiltered 11/5: Buccaneers Preview, Vrabel Presser/Reaction, Locker Room Report · Patriots Unfiltered

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  Speaker 2: In fairness, like what was going on at the time
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  Speaker 2: of this open respiptis we?
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  Speaker 3: Oh yeah?
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  Speaker 4: I mean I like to think I would not point
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  Speaker 4: out like, oh, look at this guy on the other
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  Speaker 4: side of the field that's opened.
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  Speaker 3: In sult of them a little bitter. I know, I
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  Speaker 3: did love the way they handled the end of.
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  Speaker 2: The first sea. I was fine with it. Go for points.
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  Speaker 1: They didn't.
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  Speaker 3: They were throwing the ball no, you know, as.
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  Speaker 1: A ball no er.
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  Speaker 4: I just think like I would just like to man's
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  Speaker 4: playing silent count.
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  Speaker 3: Someone intentionally hit us with their car on the way
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  Speaker 3: into the game last night. Someone intentionally hit us, knocked
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  Speaker 3: the whole front bumper of my brother's car, pulled up
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  Speaker 3: beside him very angrily, and slammed himself into the side
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  Speaker 3: of my brother's car.
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  Speaker 2: You're kidding, assault brother. Maybe he recognized you and heard
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  Speaker 2: you on the radio. Listener doesn't like to show that
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  Speaker 2: it wasn't Andy Hart.
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  Speaker 2: All right, welcome the Patriots Unfiltered. It is Wednesday here
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  Speaker 2: at Jillete Stadium. It's our official Turn the Page day
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  Speaker 2: where we go from reviewing last Sunday's game to talking
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  Speaker 2: about this upcoming game with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Another
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  Speaker 2: good test I think for the team. Buccaneers, are you know,
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  Speaker 2: one of the better teams in the league. I wouldn't
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  Speaker 2: say the best top echelon, but they're a good competitive team,
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  Speaker 2: winning record, some good matchups that should challenge the Patriots.
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  Speaker 2: So I think a good opportunity, particularly for the defense
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  Speaker 2: in this game. And we'll talk about that. We'll have
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  Speaker 2: Mike Rabel with his live press conference. I think that's
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  Speaker 2: at twelve fifty five and one o'clock. One of five minutes.
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  Speaker 2: You need that five minutes? Yeah, you never military time here,
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  Speaker 2: something going on schedule. So what are they doing now?
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  Speaker 3: What acclimating all the acquisitions they make?
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  Speaker 2: Oh, Paully, are you are you one of the I am?
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  Speaker 2: Are you one of the Madden Fantasy you know? Definitely
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  Speaker 2: not want your GM Fantasy boys that are upset about
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  Speaker 2: no moves yesterday.
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  Speaker 3: No, I mean I was a little surprised. I said
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  Speaker 3: on the show that I felt like they would probably
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  Speaker 3: make a move, but I wasn't expecting anything really big.
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  Speaker 3: I'm not overly surprised that they didn't do anything big.
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  Speaker 3: I'm a little surprised they didn't add.
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  Speaker 2: Some I think they they probably tried in a couple
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  Speaker 2: of instances. I think that's probably here's the thing. Teams
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  Speaker 2: out there aren't willing to help the Patriots become that
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  Speaker 2: they They're not. Nobody wants to be that team that
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  Speaker 2: helped us become good again.
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  Speaker 4: Certainly not the Jets, like the Jets. I think that's
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  Speaker 4: the thing. And I I saw the Titan. I said
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  Speaker 4: this on Catch twenty two, like I was dead wrong
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  Speaker 4: about there being no big trades, Like I'll take that
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  Speaker 4: one on the Gin dead wrong. But it happens to
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  Speaker 4: be that it was a division rival that made all
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  Speaker 4: the big trades. So like the Jets were not going
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  Speaker 4: to trade Quinn Williams or Sauce Gardner to the Patriots,
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  Speaker 4: Like even if the Patriots would have paid the price,
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  Speaker 4: they're at least going to charge a division tax. So
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  Speaker 4: it's going to be even more than what was given
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  Speaker 4: up for those guys. So that was a little bit
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  Speaker 4: unlucky that the splashes that happened were teams that were
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  Speaker 4: not probably.
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  Speaker 2: Gonna do it. We'll talk about that. It's Evan, it's Paul,
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  Speaker 2: it's me, it's Deuce, it's Alex and the Booth and
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  Speaker 2: let's let's get into that. Do you think the Jets
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  Speaker 2: are winners yesterday or Ish? Yeah?
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  Speaker 3: The winner is tell me why Ish? Look, dude, it's
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  Speaker 3: I'm having a hard time just completely embracing everything they
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  Speaker 3: did because they're completely tearing it down again, right. I
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  Speaker 3: think the Quentin Williams trade specifically was a home run
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  Speaker 3: for the Jets. I love Quentin Williams. I think he's
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  Speaker 3: a terrific player, and he's still fairly I think he's
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  Speaker 3: twenty seven to twenty eight, he's still fairly young. But
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  Speaker 3: that's a good return for a defensive.
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  Speaker 4: Tackle at twenty seven.
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  Speaker 3: You know, that's a I mean a first and a second.
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  Speaker 3: That's a good return. The Sauce trade I like for
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  Speaker 3: their Jets, but I also like it for the Colts.
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  Speaker 3: But you look at it, they're going to end up with,
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  Speaker 3: you know, two first and two seconds in this upcoming draft.
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  Speaker 3: They'll have multiple firsts in the twenty seven draft as well.
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  Speaker 3: Not bad. You still have a couple of glaring holes
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  Speaker 3: one quarterback and two you got to hit those picks.
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  Speaker 3: And I just look at what the One of the
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  Speaker 3: things that would kind of surprise you is how well
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  Speaker 3: they've drafted, like talent was. Yeah, they just had the
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  Speaker 3: top four. You know, everybody says like, well, they're going
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  Speaker 3: to try to do what Detroit did. And Evan has
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  Speaker 3: talked about this a lot. Evan and I like Detroit.
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  Speaker 3: Basically they got Jamier Gibs, Jack Campbell, Sam Laporta, Brian Branch,
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  Speaker 3: two ones, two twos in the same draft four for
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  Speaker 3: four knocked him out of the park.
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  Speaker 2: Just did the same thing in twenty.
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  Speaker 3: Two Garrett Wilson, SaaS Gardner, Jermaine Johnson, and Breeze Hall
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  Speaker 3: with the top four picks. And they suck because why
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  Speaker 3: they don't have a quarterback.
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  Speaker 4: So that's why I give them some credit for what
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  Speaker 4: they did, because they recognized that their current core and
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  Speaker 4: without having a quarterback, they weren't going to win any games.
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  Speaker 4: So now they have this whole stockpile of picks to
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  Speaker 4: maneuver to get the quarterback. So I think the biggest
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  Speaker 4: thing that I have, and I'm not necessarily just talking
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  Speaker 4: about the draft, like they could use that those picks
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  Speaker 4: to trade for a quarterback too, you know, a veteran,
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  Speaker 4: established quarterback, like the Jets to me have been overrated
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  Speaker 4: for like three years now. Everybody keeps telling me how
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  Speaker 4: great their roster is, and then the end of the
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  Speaker 4: season they're picking in the top ten every single year.
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  Speaker 4: So it's like, at some point we can say that
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  Speaker 4: SaaS is a great player, we can say Quinn Williams
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  Speaker 4: is a great player. They don't win any games, so like,
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  Speaker 4: if you're not going to win it, and I get it,
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  Speaker 4: everybody blames the quarterback. But you know, Aaron Rodgers gets
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  Speaker 4: hurt in his first year with the Jets. He played
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  Speaker 4: last year and he looks pretty good in Pittsburgh right now,
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  Speaker 4: so like, you know, well, they're winning, like they have
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  Speaker 4: a winning record and they're going to go to the playoffs.
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  Speaker 2: I think I think he's doing okay. As much as
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  Speaker 2: I don't want him to, I can't. I have to
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  Speaker 2: be honest and say he's doing fine.
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  Speaker 4: I just think at some point, if you're the Jets,
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  Speaker 4: like and I think This is basically what they told you,
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  Speaker 4: like this roster was a little bit overrated, Like these
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  Speaker 4: players were a little bit overrated. We've now had our
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  Speaker 4: chance to work with them and we kind of see that,
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  Speaker 4: and so they're hitting the reset button. I give them credit, like,
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  Speaker 4: I give them credit for recognizing that and you know,
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  Speaker 4: going in a different direction and now they to Paul's point,
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  Speaker 4: like they got to hit on the picks.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think for the winners for this season of
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  Speaker 2: the Patriots, we got to play them twice. And if
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  Speaker 2: you're one of the left behinds them that team, do
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  Speaker 2: you even care about the rest of the season? Oh boy,
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  Speaker 2: maybe not. I mean, but you know, maybe the Colts too.
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  Speaker 3: I don't think they care any less than today than
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  Speaker 3: they did yesterday.
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  Speaker 2: That I think that's prob. They're one and seven. Why
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  Speaker 2: couldn't you have traded me?
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  Speaker 3: I think Evan just hit the nail on the head.
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  Speaker 3: They have these good players and they weren't winning any games.
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  Speaker 3: They're not winning players.
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  Speaker 5: Part of it to me is the culture too, and
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  Speaker 5: it's kind of brought some of those guys down. And
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  Speaker 5: you know, like Sauce Gardner comes in with so much
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  Speaker 5: potential and you feel like a lot of these guys
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  Speaker 5: are kind of infected with losing right now. And I
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  Speaker 5: think we saw it happen around here a little bit too.
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  Speaker 5: I think that's part of the move as well.
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  Speaker 2: You know.
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  Speaker 5: For Indianapolis though, I think it's a really good move.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, they've built their team through the draft. They
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  Speaker 5: Daniel Jones looked good right now. You know, it wasn't
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  Speaker 5: gonna happen this year for quarterback anyway. They won too
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  Speaker 5: many games already, They're not going to be in position to,
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  Speaker 5: you know, be in a top ten this year.
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  Speaker 6: So I think for me, it's really about twenty tars.
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  Speaker 2: I'm saying that Daniel Jones is the guy.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean you're basically saying for the next yeah,
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  Speaker 5: for the next two years. I mean you're not you know,
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  Speaker 5: you're not gonna have a first round pick for the
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  Speaker 5: next two years.
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  Speaker 3: So and Mike's point was they weren't going to be
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  Speaker 3: in if they held onto that draft pick. They weren't
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  Speaker 3: going to be in position to get a quarterback this
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  Speaker 3: year most likely right because of their record, because their
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  Speaker 3: record's too good, they're going to be picking in the
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  Speaker 3: bottom half of it. Already lost for this year, Botum
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  Speaker 3: third probably yea, So.
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  Speaker 6: It's on Daniel Jones now.
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  Speaker 5: But I mean give the Colts credit for how they've
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  Speaker 5: built their team through the draft. I mean they've had
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  Speaker 5: a really good offensive line for a long time. Jonathan
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  Speaker 5: Taylor is back to that MVP type form that we
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  Speaker 5: saw back in twenty one, really good homegrowning. It's you know,
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  Speaker 5: they're they're ready to go. So it's all on you know.
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  Speaker 5: I'm flashing back to some of the in season hard
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  Speaker 5: knocks last year with the Giants where you heard them
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  Speaker 5: having Joe Chane having these conversations about like, you know,
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  Speaker 5: do we put guys around Daniel Jones to find out
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  Speaker 5: what he's got? And you know, and then it was
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  Speaker 5: all around getting rid of Saquan and all those decisions.
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  Speaker 2: And now you feel like the Colts think they've struck old.
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  Speaker 2: If you're the Jets, are you thinking draft with kind
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  Speaker 2: of a so far a week quarterback draft or are
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  Speaker 2: you thinking bundle this, go to Cincinnati, give them a
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  Speaker 2: boatload and bring Joe Cool to the Big Apple.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know about Joe Burrow, but that's what I
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  Speaker 4: think they're need to do.
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  Speaker 6: Everything should be on the table right and they're.
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  Speaker 4: Trading for a veteran quarterback because I don't think they're
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  Speaker 4: gonna do Sam Darnold and Zach Wilson three point zero.
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  Speaker 4: Like I don't think that Woody Johnson is going to
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  Speaker 4: be in love with that idea of just sucking draft
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  Speaker 4: the next good you know, number one overall pick quarterback.
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  Speaker 4: And Aaron Gunn was just in Detroit with Jared Goff
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  Speaker 4: who they traded for and it worked out. So my
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  Speaker 4: guess is is you know we were actually kicking around,
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  Speaker 4: so jam got around. I'm really interested, so like realistically
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  Speaker 4: not Joe Burrow. We did mention Trevor Lawrence like if
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  Speaker 4: you want to like, but these are those ones are
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  Speaker 4: kind of unrealistic to me. Kyler Murray, Yeah, so Kyler
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  Speaker 4: is definitely in play.
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  Speaker 3: Rock Purty Rock Party and Trevor Lawrence. I could see
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  Speaker 3: Kyler Murray is I think close to the other.
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  Speaker 4: Bar throughout that I said that Dolphins would not do this,
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  Speaker 4: but Tua you know to it.
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  Speaker 2: But I shouldn't say anything because the Patriots haven't had
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  Speaker 2: good luck with him, But go ahead and do that.
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  Speaker 4: But Pie in the Sky would be like some I
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  Speaker 4: don't I think Burrows not.
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  Speaker 3: But those kinds of things wouldn't cost you this kind
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  Speaker 3: of capital.
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  Speaker 2: Oh not everything.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, like who is not casting you?
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  Speaker 2: It would cost you two first round picks.
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  Speaker 3: And I wouldn't make the trade for two dumb too.
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  Speaker 3: I think that's what two first round picks for Tua.
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  Speaker 2: I think that's what Miami would want.
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  Speaker 3: And he's going to stay on Miami.
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  Speaker 4: He's not gonna You're not. They're not going to trade
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  Speaker 4: for two in the division. I don't think Miami would
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  Speaker 4: trade him in the division. But I think Party, you know,
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  Speaker 4: if they decide that he's really expensive and mac Jones
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  Speaker 4: is kind of just the same thing.
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  Speaker 3: Party makes a little sense. I could see that he
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  Speaker 3: ain't getting two ones from Purdy.
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  Speaker 4: No, no, but you have all this extra capital that
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  Speaker 4: if you do have to trade any you know, one
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  Speaker 4: one or one in a two or whatever the case
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  Speaker 4: may be, you don't feel like you're trading away your
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  Speaker 4: whole draft class.
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  Speaker 2: No, they can afford it, right absolutely.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, Like I was immediately thinking when you
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  Speaker 3: said that, because I hadn't really given much thought to
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  Speaker 3: you know, a veteran quarterback. I was immediately thinking the
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  Speaker 3: Detroit model with Stafford and you know, it would be
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  Speaker 3: just like the Jets to say, I want trade for
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  Speaker 3: Matthew Stafford and he'll be done next year. Like he's
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  Speaker 3: having a great year this year, he had all those
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  Speaker 3: back problems heading in. I still think that Sean McVay
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  Speaker 3: is probably holding his breath every game.
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  Speaker 4: Looks like you honestly like it kind of looks.
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  Speaker 2: He's played so well though this might be his best year.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, but he you know, let's face it, he's a
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  Speaker 3: hit away. Yeah, And that would be just like the Jets,
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  Speaker 3: like we'll trade you a first round pick for you know,
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  Speaker 3: a year, one more year of Matthew Stafford and he
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  Speaker 3: won't make it through the year.
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  Speaker 4: That's why, like I feel like, and I said this,
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  Speaker 4: like it's the Jets, so they'll find a way to
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  Speaker 4: mess it up, Like we all know that they'll find
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  Speaker 4: a way.
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  Speaker 2: Well, that's the other thing is Aaron Glenn. I was
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  Speaker 2: just gonna say, where does this put Aaron Glenn?
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  Speaker 4: But if you're if you're the Jets, like I feel
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  Speaker 4: like splitting it right down the middle of we're not
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  Speaker 4: going to go back in the draft because we've done
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  Speaker 4: that before and we're not going to do the Stafford thing.
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  Speaker 4: Because we did that with Rogers and that didn't.
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  Speaker 3: Work's why you gotta be you have good ones.
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  Speaker 2: So I'm gonna mark and purty good.
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  Speaker 4: I'm going to trade for like a twenty eight year
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  Speaker 4: old veteran quarterback like that's like right in the middle
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  Speaker 4: of those two things. We'll see, all right.
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  Speaker 2: So that's the trade thing. And again, you know, I
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  Speaker 2: think the Patriots were in on some people, but teams
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  Speaker 2: don't want to help anything.
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  Speaker 5: Well, you already said they were in on Phillips. You
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  Speaker 5: already tweeted that this morning that they were.
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  Speaker 2: They were, they were. There was a guy that got
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  Speaker 2: traded from the Titans, Jones that we were told we're
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  Speaker 2: not trading them, and then they traded them.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: So uh And you know, the rumors are that the
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  Speaker 2: ownership just doesn't like Rabel and didn't want to help him.
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  Speaker 3: So that makes that makes a little I mean, I
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  Speaker 3: think it's dumb to operate like that. It's it's it's business,
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  Speaker 3: it's it shouldn't be personal. But I mean I understand
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  Speaker 3: what the Jets the Titans. I don't understand the whole
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  Speaker 3: division thing. I really don't now those particular moves that
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  Speaker 3: the Jets made as Evan said, you know, the Patriots
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  Speaker 3: are not looking to acquire Sauce Gardner. Forget about the compensation.
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  Speaker 3: They already have a great corner that they're going to
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  Speaker 3: have to pay. You know, like that, that didn't make
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  Speaker 3: a lot of sense. But if Breese Hall was really
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  Speaker 3: on the block, on the block, and they wanted a
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  Speaker 3: third round pick, and the Patriots were willing to give
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  Speaker 3: a third round pick and they said no because of
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  Speaker 3: the division, that's just dumb. That's just bad business. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: I Belichick never would have done that. I heard a
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  Speaker 3: lot of.
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  Speaker 2: People say, oh, I wouldn't give a third round pick
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  Speaker 2: for Bristol. I think I would.
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  Speaker 4: Well, nobody else think I would.
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  Speaker 3: I'm not telling you I would have. I wouldn't have.
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  Speaker 3: I'm saying if you wanted the third round pick and
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  Speaker 3: the Patriots offered, and you said no, one because they
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  Speaker 3: were in the division, that's stupid.
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  Speaker 4: If somebody offered the Jets a third round pick for
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  Speaker 4: Breese Hall, he wouldn't be a Jet.
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  Speaker 3: You know, that's what that's what they wanted. Nobody offered it.
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  Speaker 3: And I know what you're saying.
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  Speaker 4: Kansas City four, It sounds like that's as high as
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  Speaker 4: anybody would go, so nobody wanted it.
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  Speaker 2: I would love to know if we did offer at
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  Speaker 2: least a fourth or a third, because, like Paul said, uh,
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  Speaker 2: it's kind of weird that they wouldn't take that if
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  Speaker 2: we were the only ones offering a third. But I
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  Speaker 2: you know, listen, they wouldn't be the only team that
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  Speaker 2: kind of has that rule about not helping a team
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  Speaker 2: in the division. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 4: He's definitely different with quarterback, like like trading barsting of trading.
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  Speaker 2: I mean famously traded Bledsoe to the Bills.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, but on his last leg at that point he
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  Speaker 4: had Now he was still the first year he was
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  Speaker 4: a pro bowler, right.
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  Speaker 3: Year he played five more years. Like it's like the
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  Speaker 3: best deal was a first round pick. Belichick wisely said,
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  Speaker 3: he's not going to be better than the guy. I
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  Speaker 3: have a guy that I think is better than him.
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  Speaker 3: I'm taking the best deal the teams with the what
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  Speaker 3: team is on, Like, I think my guy's better, So
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  Speaker 3: I'm not afraid of him coming back to haunt me.
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  Speaker 3: That was smart business. Now, I wish he kept doing
• 14:59
  Speaker 3: that like Garoppolo and stuff like that later on and
• 15:02
  Speaker 3: instead of worrying about putting this guy in a good spot,
• 15:06
  Speaker 3: punishing that guy because you didn't take my contract, and
• 15:09
  Speaker 3: sending him to Siberia for less, but that deal bill maximized.
• 15:14
  Speaker 3: I don't think anybody else was given a first round pick.
• 15:16
  Speaker 2: For bled Cell, right, I don't know. I never didn't
• 15:19
  Speaker 2: hear it.
• 15:19
  Speaker 3: I think that was a good trade.
• 15:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so so interesting stuff yesterday. It was a blockbuster move,
• 15:28
  Speaker 2: you know.
• 15:29
  Speaker 3: It was, But I mean two huge ones for the
• 15:31
  Speaker 3: jet It's just for me.
• 15:32
  Speaker 5: It highlights the Patriots depth that they're going to have
• 15:34
  Speaker 5: to go through the last two months of this season
• 15:36
  Speaker 5: hoping that you know, Harold Landry, Caleb Chase, we all
• 15:39
  Speaker 5: we got, we all, we got, we all we Need's right,
• 15:41
  Speaker 5: We'll see if it's all we need. But I think
• 15:44
  Speaker 5: it just illustrates some of the depth issues that we've
• 15:46
  Speaker 5: talked about since training camp. And I think I said
• 15:49
  Speaker 5: after Week one once you got to look at this
• 15:51
  Speaker 5: team under live fire, that there are going to be
• 15:53
  Speaker 5: some spots that are turned over next year and there's
• 15:55
  Speaker 5: some place filler holders this year. I'm just surprised because
• 15:59
  Speaker 5: I thought the directions we're pointing to, you just need
• 16:02
  Speaker 5: a body right now, Like I mean, They've got a
• 16:04
  Speaker 5: bunch of these new running backs that they bought in
• 16:06
  Speaker 5: Denis Johnson, but that's who they're going to ride with.
• 16:08
  Speaker 5: And you know, there might be a point this season
• 16:10
  Speaker 5: where you're saying, Elijah Ponder, it's go time at you know,
• 16:14
  Speaker 5: starting defensive end here you go.
• 16:16
  Speaker 3: You know, I wonder if they're thinking that way. You know,
• 16:18
  Speaker 3: we've given a lot of rookies playing time. I wonder
• 16:21
  Speaker 3: if they're like, you know, happens we rolled with Swinton
• 16:25
  Speaker 3: on the practice squad. You know, maybe one of these
• 16:26
  Speaker 3: guys is going to have a bigger role, you know,
• 16:28
  Speaker 3: in the second half. I don't know.
• 16:30
  Speaker 4: I commend them for it, because give them for what exactly,
• 16:35
  Speaker 4: for sticking to their plan, because I think that we
• 16:40
  Speaker 4: all can objectively look at the situation that's unfolded here
• 16:45
  Speaker 4: and recognize that they are kind of hitting, you know,
• 16:50
  Speaker 4: lightning in the bottle right now with this season where
• 16:52
  Speaker 4: everything kind of went their way. They have no major injuries.
• 16:56
  Speaker 4: Drake made hit and you know is an MVP cant
• 17:00
  Speaker 4: a date. Their schedule is easy, and I think it
• 17:03
  Speaker 4: would have been easy to do what the Commanders did
• 17:06
  Speaker 4: and and.
• 17:07
  Speaker 3: Have the second most cap space in football.
• 17:09
  Speaker 4: Start, you know, going all in on a season where
• 17:14
  Speaker 4: you know, Deuce is talking about the depth on the roster.
• 17:16
  Speaker 4: They're probably still an off season away from having really
• 17:21
  Speaker 4: what they want in terms of the depth on the roster.
• 17:24
  Speaker 4: And if you start trading away draft picks and stuff
• 17:26
  Speaker 4: like that for rentals, then that those are your opportunities
• 17:31
  Speaker 4: to accumulate that depth. And I just I think that
• 17:34
  Speaker 4: they looked at it objectively and we're like, are we
• 17:38
  Speaker 4: really discood?
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: You mentioned rentals, but there was also a path to
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: getting people who aren't rentals. It wasn't it wasn't just rentals.
• 17:47
  Speaker 4: That yeah, it was Jalen Phillips, Rashid Shahid.
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: I don't think that, you know, I'm not saying that
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: the Patriots were interested, but Sauce Gardner's not a rental,
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: Quinn Williams isn't all right, But we just went over
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: like maybe there were people that you could have pursued
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: that aren't rentals. I don't think they should have gotten
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: rentals either.
• 18:06
  Speaker 4: I think I mean, is there a chance that you
• 18:08
  Speaker 4: could have blown somebody out of the water with two
• 18:10
  Speaker 4: first round picks for a star player? Like right, sure,
• 18:13
  Speaker 4: But like I just wouldn't have done that.
• 18:16
  Speaker 3: I wouldn't have done that later, Henderson, I mean like
• 18:18
  Speaker 3: we didn't get traded.
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: No, he didn't get traded, but like I don't know
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: what the offers were. But if you get him, you're
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: not thinking he's a rental. You've got a handshake deal
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: to give him a com Yeah, I.
• 18:30
  Speaker 4: Hear you, but he's thirty one. Like I just I
• 18:32
  Speaker 4: think the biggest thing to me is like you're trying
• 18:35
  Speaker 4: to build something sustainable here. You're not. You don't want
• 18:38
  Speaker 4: to just be a one hit wonder where you have
• 18:40
  Speaker 4: one year where you play schedule, win twelve games.
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: Let's say the Jets were willing to give us Prieste
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: Fall for a third, would you have done that?
• 18:50
  Speaker 7: Do I?
• 18:50
  Speaker 4: What's for Andre Stevenson's toe is does he have a
• 18:53
  Speaker 4: little stub or does he have turf toe?
• 18:55
  Speaker 7: Like?
• 18:55
  Speaker 4: What's what's the situation?
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: It doesn't matter to me?
• 18:58
  Speaker 4: Well, I think it matters. Yeah, you know Andre is
• 19:01
  Speaker 4: going to be fine.
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: But you still only really have two front line running
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: backs and you're an injury away of being back in
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: that same situation.
• 19:09
  Speaker 4: But Brice Hall is not coming here as injury insurance.
• 19:12
  Speaker 4: He's coming here to replace Remandreu. So like now Rimandre
• 19:15
  Speaker 4: is going to be riding the bench. Now I'm being
• 19:17
  Speaker 4: told that Remandre is going to be out for four
• 19:19
  Speaker 4: to six weeks, and that's a different story.
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: Well, you say riding the bench you wrote you know,
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: like right now, Henderson doesn't ride the bench.
• 19:31
  Speaker 4: But like Henderson's playing a third down back role like
• 19:33
  Speaker 4: Brice Hall, you're getting acquiring him to be the lead back,
• 19:36
  Speaker 4: which is what Ramandre is doing right now. So like
• 19:39
  Speaker 4: if you acquire bris Hall, like Rimandre's going to play
• 19:43
  Speaker 4: significantly less if that's what you're doing. So like again,
• 19:46
  Speaker 4: if he's hurt and he's out for an extended period
• 19:49
  Speaker 4: of time and that changes his thing, do you think
• 19:51
  Speaker 4: he's an upgrade Brice Hall, He's definitely more dynamic.
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: Do you think he's an upgrade?
• 19:57
  Speaker 4: He's different.
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: No, Wow, okay, I do I disagree, But yeah, like.
• 20:06
  Speaker 4: An upgrade, like it's a running back, Like it's that's
• 20:08
  Speaker 4: why I'm not like, you know, it's not Christian McCaffrey. Like,
• 20:12
  Speaker 4: I think he's an upgrade in the sense that he's
• 20:14
  Speaker 4: a more explosive player than Remandre Uh, definitely more explosive
• 20:19
  Speaker 4: pass catcher. And you know, make bigger plays happen with
• 20:21
  Speaker 4: the ball in his hands. But is it a you know,
• 20:24
  Speaker 4: a needle movie, Like is there you trading proof?
• 20:26
  Speaker 7: Yea.
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: I look at you know, Bijon, like, I know this
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: could never happen. But if there was a draft and
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: there was a twenty four year old Breis Hall who
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: I knew about how what he could do in the NFL,
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: I would take him for a third round pick. Yeah,
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: I would too.
• 20:43
  Speaker 4: Nobody else would, Like it's not just the Patriots, like
• 20:45
  Speaker 4: no one else offered them a third round pick. They're
• 20:48
  Speaker 4: still a Jet Like I just I think that again,
• 20:53
  Speaker 4: like they they've it's lined up nicely for them this season,
• 20:57
  Speaker 4: and Drake May's play has led into a lot of that.
• 21:00
  Speaker 4: But Drake May broke out. The schedule is easy, like
• 21:03
  Speaker 4: they've taken advantage of all of those things. And I mean,
• 21:08
  Speaker 4: I don't mean to like look ahead, but have you
• 21:10
  Speaker 4: looked at their schedule next year?
• 21:11
  Speaker 6: That's just what I was pulling up right now.
• 21:12
  Speaker 4: Their schedule next year is going to be the total
• 21:15
  Speaker 4: opposite of this year. They have like a murderer's row
• 21:17
  Speaker 4: of road games next year.
• 21:19
  Speaker 5: Yep, So like Lions, Chiefs, Chargers, I mean Bills. Obviously,
• 21:25
  Speaker 5: we'll see what AFC, NFC, AFC South and NFC West.
• 21:28
  Speaker 5: But you know, Packers here, Broncos here, Vikings here, AFC North,
• 21:33
  Speaker 5: team here.
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: It's a it's a tough schedule, it's going to be
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: I mean.
• 21:36
  Speaker 3: It's all the more reason why I would have been
• 21:38
  Speaker 3: more aggressive. But I want I.
• 21:41
  Speaker 4: Want them to be aggressive in the off season, like
• 21:43
  Speaker 4: because I want them to keep building talent on the roster.
• 21:45
  Speaker 3: Now, if that happens, then outsid'd rather you be aggressive
• 21:48
  Speaker 3: in the off season than do something at the trade deadline.
• 21:50
  Speaker 3: I would agree with you.
• 21:51
  Speaker 4: Because there's more that will happen. There's more of a
• 21:53
  Speaker 4: pool in the off season of guys available, all the
• 21:56
  Speaker 4: cre agents and all that kind of stuff. So if
• 21:59
  Speaker 4: you go out.
• 21:59
  Speaker 3: And and it only costs you money instead of draft picks,
• 22:02
  Speaker 3: and if I would totally rather do it that.
• 22:04
  Speaker 4: Way, shoot your gun in the in the trade deadline
• 22:07
  Speaker 4: because you're just going all in on this season.
• 22:10
  Speaker 3: I just I just think that the way this has been,
• 22:13
  Speaker 3: like I said at the very beginning, I'm not disappointed
• 22:17
  Speaker 3: necessarily that they didn't do anything. And I'm not here
• 22:19
  Speaker 3: to tell you like they dropped the ball I'm not
• 22:22
  Speaker 3: doing that because I don't think they dropped the ball.
• 22:25
  Speaker 3: I don't think there was a lot of opportunity for
• 22:26
  Speaker 3: them to do anything of any significance. I'm a little
• 22:29
  Speaker 3: surprised they didn't add a depth piece or two. That's
• 22:31
  Speaker 3: it me too. But the way it's being portrayed is
• 22:36
  Speaker 3: they had two choices, either forfeit the future for the
• 22:41
  Speaker 3: gratification now, or stick to the plan. And I just
• 22:46
  Speaker 3: don't think trading a Day three pick for an edge
• 22:49
  Speaker 3: rush depth piece is forfeiting the future, or trading you know,
• 22:55
  Speaker 3: for Jerome Ford or Tony Pollard or whoever. If Breese
• 22:59
  Speaker 3: Hall was too expensive, one of those other backs you know,
• 23:02
  Speaker 3: Jerome Ford may not. I don't think that would have
• 23:03
  Speaker 3: forfeited the future. I think you still stick to your
• 23:06
  Speaker 3: plan to do Evans thing, which I agree with Evan
• 23:09
  Speaker 3: ninety five percent of what he said. I agree with
• 23:12
  Speaker 3: you don't want to do anything to disrupt I wouldn't
• 23:14
  Speaker 3: even think of giving a first round pick for someone
• 23:17
  Speaker 3: who may or may not be here next year. That
• 23:19
  Speaker 3: doesn't make any sense to me. I wouldn't do that.
• 23:21
  Speaker 3: But I have four to six round picks.
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: I can't get something for them some of those.
• 23:26
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think the question there and because I agree
• 23:28
  Speaker 4: with you there's a happy medium here of like not
• 23:32
  Speaker 4: mortgaging the future but also investing in this team. I
• 23:35
  Speaker 4: think the question is, is you know we can just
• 23:38
  Speaker 4: use Jamal Jones for an example, is Jamont Jones a
• 23:41
  Speaker 4: much better player than Anthony Jennings, Because Anthony Jennings right
• 23:45
  Speaker 4: now is your third guy. So like Jamalt Jones is
• 23:47
  Speaker 4: going to come in and he's going to be your
• 23:48
  Speaker 4: third pass rusher. He's a better pass rusher than Anthony Jennings,
• 23:53
  Speaker 4: but Anthony jen is probably a better run defender. And like,
• 23:55
  Speaker 4: so do you think is it that much of an upgrade?
• 23:58
  Speaker 4: And I think that one of the things that they
• 23:59
  Speaker 4: look that with this deadline was the vibes in this
• 24:03
  Speaker 4: locker room are immaculate at the moment.
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: Yep.
• 24:06
  Speaker 3: So if you do think that was a factor, if
• 24:08
  Speaker 3: you were only going to make a marginal upgrade, but
• 24:13
  Speaker 3: it's going to upset the hierarchy of the depth chart
• 24:16
  Speaker 3: in a specific room.
• 24:18
  Speaker 4: For example, like if you got in trade for Rashid Shaheed,
• 24:21
  Speaker 4: now Pop Douglas is going to have It's the same role.
• 24:24
  Speaker 4: So Pop Douglas is now out of a job. And
• 24:27
  Speaker 4: we've all talked about how great that wide receiver room
• 24:30
  Speaker 4: has been and how much they've turned it around on
• 24:32
  Speaker 4: and off the field, And now you go ahead and
• 24:35
  Speaker 4: you start shaking things up. Is it worth it in
• 24:38
  Speaker 4: the short term for maybe a guy that's a little
• 24:40
  Speaker 4: bit better than Anfridy Jennings or someone that's a little
• 24:43
  Speaker 4: bit better than Terrell Jennings that running back, or you know,
• 24:47
  Speaker 4: whatever the case may be. I think that was a
• 24:49
  Speaker 4: big part of it too.
• 24:50
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I hear your point, Paul, for sure. I'd almost
• 24:52
  Speaker 5: you know, in terms of like trying to make a
• 24:53
  Speaker 5: little bit of a run. And I kind of said
• 24:55
  Speaker 5: this a little bit yesterday about protecting Drake, but I
• 24:58
  Speaker 5: think it's much about is there a spot where a
• 25:00
  Speaker 5: key injury could cause this season to devolve a little
• 25:03
  Speaker 5: bit and lose some of the energy that you have
• 25:05
  Speaker 5: and to me, protecting against that where a key injury
• 25:08
  Speaker 5: maybe a defensive end running back, Like it's not necessarily
• 25:11
  Speaker 5: a guy like you know, Tony Pollard who's going to
• 25:13
  Speaker 5: put you over the edge and now we can go
• 25:15
  Speaker 5: to Kansas City and win or whatever it might be
• 25:17
  Speaker 5: in the playoffs.
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: But it's more about totally.
• 25:19
  Speaker 5: If you know, if Ramandre is a long term situation,
• 25:22
  Speaker 5: is the run game going to totally devolve in that
• 25:24
  Speaker 5: Drake may season is now going to fall apart because
• 25:26
  Speaker 5: teams are just our teeing off on him. And now
• 25:27
  Speaker 5: we end this season feeling like Drake got the crap
• 25:30
  Speaker 5: beat out of him. We didn't have a running game,
• 25:32
  Speaker 5: you know, like that's what I want to avoid, but
• 25:34
  Speaker 5: not mortgaging the future, but protecting protecting the present.
• 25:37
  Speaker 3: And I like Evans's point, and I do think that
• 25:40
  Speaker 3: that was part of a big part of their rationale
• 25:44
  Speaker 3: going in, was they wanted to make sure that they
• 25:46
  Speaker 3: didn't do anything that was going to, you know, significatory
• 25:50
  Speaker 3: upset what's going on right now, because I think a
• 25:53
  Speaker 3: big part of their success is this is like what
• 25:58
  Speaker 3: is like the hole is greater than some of the parts.
• 26:00
  Speaker 3: Is that the cliche in this is what I think,
• 26:03
  Speaker 3: that's what this is.
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: If you just go a.
• 26:05
  Speaker 3: Player for player, you know, it's okay, yeah, but they're
• 26:08
  Speaker 3: playing much better than that. And I think part of
• 26:10
  Speaker 3: the reason for that is all of the celebration, all
• 26:12
  Speaker 3: of the culture, all of the buy in that you see.
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: The whole is greater than the some of the parts
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: that what you're trying to.
• 26:18
  Speaker 3: Say, that's what I said, That what I said, and
• 26:20
  Speaker 3: try to say it.
• 26:21
  Speaker 4: And if you go and you go start trading for
• 26:23
  Speaker 4: marginal up trade yeah, and you know, and it's not
• 26:26
  Speaker 4: we're not talking about trading for sauce Gardner talking about trading.
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: I just think those kinds of things.
• 26:31
  Speaker 3: Don't like if that Draymond And I don't know a
• 26:33
  Speaker 3: lot about Draymond Jones, to be honest with you, if
• 26:36
  Speaker 3: he's a little bit better than Anthony Jennings, I don't
• 26:38
  Speaker 3: think that upsets the apple car. You already tried to
• 26:40
  Speaker 3: basically give away Anthony Jennings. I don't think that's an
• 26:43
  Speaker 3: apple cart disrupting move. Rahii Rashid Harry Rashid Shahed could
• 26:52
  Speaker 3: be an example of what Evan's talking about, Like he
• 26:54
  Speaker 3: might knock somebody out of a role who's been playing
• 26:58
  Speaker 3: a lot and has embraced that role. That could be
• 27:01
  Speaker 3: something that cause you. Now, I'm not telling you that
• 27:03
  Speaker 3: would I wouldn't do it if I thought that that
• 27:06
  Speaker 3: made sense and that I thought that made me better.
• 27:08
  Speaker 3: But I do think Rabel Stretch, Elliott Wolf, Ryan Cowd
• 27:12
  Speaker 3: and I think these are these were factors I think
• 27:15
  Speaker 3: in some of these potential moves.
• 27:16
  Speaker 4: Yeah, like Anthony and Jennings might not like it would
• 27:18
  Speaker 4: more be like they had traded for Jalen Phillips and
• 27:21
  Speaker 4: now Chase On is out of a.
• 27:22
  Speaker 3: Starting cares that's different.
• 27:23
  Speaker 4: And Chason's been playing really well for them for like
• 27:26
  Speaker 4: about a month now. Yeah, and now all of a sudden,
• 27:29
  Speaker 4: you know you're you're a situational pass rusher on third
• 27:32
  Speaker 4: down only because we just traded a third round pick
• 27:34
  Speaker 4: for Jalen Phillips. Like that was probably a better example
• 27:37
  Speaker 4: than than Jennings and depth pieces and stuff like that.
• 27:40
  Speaker 4: But I I mean, we're in the locker room moth.
• 27:42
  Speaker 7: Like.
• 27:43
  Speaker 4: The vibes in the locker room are just it's a
• 27:46
  Speaker 4: total one to eighty from what it's been here the
• 27:47
  Speaker 4: last two years. And I give that all that credit
• 27:50
  Speaker 4: to Rabel me too. And so he has completely changed
• 27:54
  Speaker 4: the energy, Like you can just see it in all
• 27:55
  Speaker 4: the content that we put out, you know after games
• 27:58
  Speaker 4: and stuff like that. The way that these players are
• 28:01
  Speaker 4: are rallying like around him, and you know it's a
• 28:05
  Speaker 4: big thing.
• 28:06
  Speaker 3: But that I think that element has been more important
• 28:10
  Speaker 3: and more impressive than any x's and o's thing that
• 28:12
  Speaker 3: the coaching staff is done. And I'm not telling you
• 28:14
  Speaker 3: the coaching staff hasn't done a good job. I'm just
• 28:16
  Speaker 3: saying the buy in that they immediately got from from
• 28:20
  Speaker 3: that group, and I think they had some buy in
• 28:22
  Speaker 3: from gered MEO last year initially, and then they didn't win.
• 28:25
  Speaker 3: To you a point, right, so you lose the buy in.
• 28:27
  Speaker 3: You know, you say you're right, like you established this
• 28:30
  Speaker 3: and then you immediately show them, oh wait, it's working right,
• 28:34
  Speaker 3: we are winning process.
• 28:35
  Speaker 4: But even at one and two, like after the Steelers game,
• 28:38
  Speaker 4: like go to Miami, you could tell and it was
• 28:40
  Speaker 4: just kind of like, well, we turned the ball over
• 28:43
  Speaker 4: five times, and if we don't turn the ball over
• 28:45
  Speaker 4: five times, we would have won this game and blow up.
• 28:47
  Speaker 3: You know, it's fine. This is a propose of nothing,
• 28:50
  Speaker 3: as they say Matt Smith likes, I say, I propose
• 28:52
  Speaker 3: of nothing. The Colts went to Pittsburgh and turned it
• 28:56
  Speaker 3: over six times, and this season's over now. It was
• 28:59
  Speaker 3: the defining moment to turn the Patriots season around, like, oh,
• 29:02
  Speaker 3: they were actually better than Pittsburgh. They should have won
• 29:04
  Speaker 3: the game. They beat themselves. But you know, the Colt
• 29:07
  Speaker 3: they're done now. I don't know what they're doing with
• 29:09
  Speaker 3: the sauce guards they had.
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: To get saw.
• 29:11
  Speaker 3: I mean, everybody was killing them for that sauce guard
• 29:13
  Speaker 3: and I was like, I don't know.
• 29:14
  Speaker 5: I mean, if it would be kind of funny though,
• 29:16
  Speaker 5: halls on Daniel Jones to start looking like the Daniel
• 29:18
  Speaker 5: Jones that we came to know, and they're like, Oh, well.
• 29:21
  Speaker 4: That's what I'm fascinated because that's that's a fear that
• 29:24
  Speaker 4: kind of happened with Darnold.
• 29:25
  Speaker 3: It took a while to week seventeen to the end.
• 29:28
  Speaker 4: Yeah, but then at the end there and they kind
• 29:30
  Speaker 4: of they're kind of this year as Minnesota and like,
• 29:33
  Speaker 4: it's going to be interesting to see if if Daniel
• 29:35
  Speaker 4: Jones considered.
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: I want to transition over to Tampa Bay but be
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: first public service announcement, A Jay who's the president of
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: the Tampa Bay New England Patriots Fan Club uh sends
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: in a quick reminder to all listeners out there, especially
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: those who will be in Tampa over the weekend, that
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: we are hosting the largest Patriots road rally of the
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: season this Saturday, November eighth, from five five to seven
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: at sunset Rodeo, which is located at three oh two
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: South Howard Avenue. We'll have appearances by members of the
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: cheerleading team and the Patriots pat Patriot Lawrence Guy. Hopefully
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: Fred and Evan will make it out as well. He says,
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: we'll have a bunch of autograph items that will be
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: raffling off for charity. They're expecting a huge crowd, so
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: tell they're telling people to make sure they get there
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: early so they don't miss out. So again, that's at
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: the Sunset Rodeo, three oh two South Howard Avenue from
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: five to seven this Saturday. So it's gonna be a big,
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: big rally, So check it out Patriots fans who are
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: in Tampa.
• 30:41
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it sounds like it's gonna be huge. Patriots fans
• 30:44
  Speaker 5: contingent down there.
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah this week so, I mean it was big in
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: Nashville too, but this one's gonna be really really Yeah.
• 30:49
  Speaker 4: I think it's gonna be interesting because like Titans stink,
• 30:52
  Speaker 4: So like taking over an opponent stadium when the team
• 30:56
  Speaker 4: is one in six or whatever it was Tennessee was
• 30:59
  Speaker 4: is one thing, But taking over an opponent stadium when
• 31:01
  Speaker 4: the team is a playoff team that you're going to
• 31:04
  Speaker 4: would be that'd be pretty cool. I don't know if
• 31:06
  Speaker 4: that happens very often when you're go to a six
• 31:09
  Speaker 4: and two teams, you know, home game and it's half
• 31:11
  Speaker 4: Patriots fan.
• 31:12
  Speaker 5: Right, we need like some muskets to answer the cannon
• 31:15
  Speaker 5: shots from.
• 31:16
  Speaker 4: The You that's going to scare the crap out of me,
• 31:19
  Speaker 4: I know, going to be.
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: Like, well hopefully don't hear it all of Yeah, you know, Okay,
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: So let's talk about the Buccaneers. Yeah, let's start with
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: their injuries. I think that's today.
• 31:29
  Speaker 5: We just got a report that they didn't get a
• 31:32
  Speaker 5: lot of guys back. I mean, Chris Godwin is not
• 31:34
  Speaker 5: out there and Bucky Irving. Those are the two guys
• 31:36
  Speaker 5: that we kind.
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: Of start with.
• 31:37
  Speaker 5: So you know, they got to get healthy. But I
• 31:40
  Speaker 5: guess Baker Mayfield is top of the list. Then he's
• 31:43
  Speaker 5: just a really good player. I mean, I just I'm
• 31:45
  Speaker 5: so amazed by we talk about when we saw him.
• 31:49
  Speaker 5: We saw we have Mary Kay Cabot on when the
• 31:51
  Speaker 5: Browns were here, and we'd had her on back in
• 31:53
  Speaker 5: twenty one, when when Mayfield was here, and I was like,
• 31:56
  Speaker 5: I mean I saw him that time in person. I
• 31:58
  Speaker 5: was like this guy's done injured, we find out. Then
• 32:01
  Speaker 5: we saw him with Carolina a little bit when he's
• 32:03
  Speaker 5: like battling Donald here, which again is just so crazy
• 32:05
  Speaker 5: to me that.
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: That's just like factor.
• 32:10
  Speaker 8: In.
• 32:10
  Speaker 3: Mayfield didn't want them to get on the field and
• 32:13
  Speaker 3: now they're both like lighting it up.
• 32:15
  Speaker 6: Crazy but you know, great turnaround for him.
• 32:17
  Speaker 5: I mean, I love these stories in the NFL when
• 32:19
  Speaker 5: a player you rule for dead comes back and and
• 32:22
  Speaker 5: you know Sam Donald being at the forefront as well,
• 32:24
  Speaker 5: but you know, Mayfield, to me, it just seems like
• 32:26
  Speaker 5: he's so good late in the down and his ability
• 32:28
  Speaker 5: to scramble or his ability to make throws on the
• 32:30
  Speaker 5: run and keeping him contained and being able to you know,
• 32:34
  Speaker 5: finish him off in the pocket I think is just
• 32:36
  Speaker 5: a huge key this week. But no, Abuka looks really
• 32:39
  Speaker 5: good I me, and Rashad White is no slouch at
• 32:41
  Speaker 5: running back. So they've got some some pieces. Kate Auden's big,
• 32:44
  Speaker 5: big tight end made some catches for them. You know,
• 32:47
  Speaker 5: we'll see some of the ancillary receivers if they're able
• 32:50
  Speaker 5: to you know, contribute.
• 32:51
  Speaker 6: But it's a good team. They're a good team.
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: About Godwin, are they a different team?
• 32:55
  Speaker 4: Well, it's without Godwin, Evans and Bucky Earth.
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so I am the Millan.
• 33:00
  Speaker 5: I mean they're on there like fourth, fifth, sixth receiver
• 33:02
  Speaker 5: and they're still Okay.
• 33:03
  Speaker 4: I forgot about McMillan. Yeah, Baker's awesome, Like, Baker's great,
• 33:10
  Speaker 4: great arm talent, really strong arm, vertical passer, just great,
• 33:15
  Speaker 4: like fearless scrambler, one of the best scrambling quarterbacks in
• 33:19
  Speaker 4: the league. He's great, but he got no help right now.
• 33:23
  Speaker 4: I mean, their their skill positions are completely banged up.
• 33:26
  Speaker 4: Even at Buka's been kind of like in and out
• 33:29
  Speaker 4: a little bit. But right now they're rolling with Buka,
• 33:34
  Speaker 4: Tez Johnson and Sterling Shepherd as there are three receivers.
• 33:38
  Speaker 4: So that's not Evans, Godwin and Buka. You know, like
• 33:40
  Speaker 4: this is not what they were at the beginning of
• 33:42
  Speaker 4: the season, when Baker was in MVP discussions and stuff
• 33:45
  Speaker 4: like that. That group is, you know, last two weeks,
• 33:49
  Speaker 4: it's been a little bit tougher. So I do think
• 33:52
  Speaker 4: there is another week where man coverage matchups like Gonzales
• 33:56
  Speaker 4: On like Buka, like, you feel pretty good that you
• 33:59
  Speaker 4: you can at least stand in the middle of the
• 34:02
  Speaker 4: ring with it. I'm with Douce. You know lt in
• 34:04
  Speaker 4: the down scrambles. You know, that kind of stuff is
• 34:07
  Speaker 4: probably what is going to ultimately beat you if you
• 34:09
  Speaker 4: get beat in this game. Because Baker is he's fearless,
• 34:14
  Speaker 4: like he will run people over. You know.
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah, what do they have on defense that could post
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: problems everything?
• 34:20
  Speaker 4: Yeah, their defense is scares me more than their offense.
• 34:24
  Speaker 4: Tod Bowles runs one of the most blitz heavy schemes
• 34:27
  Speaker 4: in the league, always has. He comes after quarterbacks. You know,
• 34:32
  Speaker 4: great secondary. Antoine Winfield Junior is one of the best
• 34:36
  Speaker 4: safeties in the league. Jamal Dean's playing a really high level.
• 34:40
  Speaker 4: I was a big fan of Jacob Parrish in the
• 34:41
  Speaker 4: draft slot corner. He's playing a good having a good
• 34:45
  Speaker 4: rookie season. Vita Vea, you know that guy is as
• 34:49
  Speaker 4: good as any interior defensive tackle that they're going to
• 34:52
  Speaker 4: face all year. Yeah, this is as you know, They've
• 34:57
  Speaker 4: phaged three really good defenses in a row. Oh, there's
• 35:00
  Speaker 4: a lot of talk about the schedule and all that,
• 35:02
  Speaker 4: but this is Brown's Falcons. Bucks is three legitimate defenses
• 35:07
  Speaker 4: that they faced in a row. So this is going
• 35:09
  Speaker 4: to be another tough test.
• 35:11
  Speaker 6: For Drake headline for Drake.
• 35:12
  Speaker 5: I mean that's to me, that's, you know, a really
• 35:14
  Speaker 5: good opportunity for him to get back on track against
• 35:17
  Speaker 5: a good defense.
• 35:17
  Speaker 6: I mean it's I say good opportunity. I think it's
• 35:19
  Speaker 6: it's going to be a.
• 35:20
  Speaker 5: Tough challenge down there, but I'd love to see Drake
• 35:23
  Speaker 5: be able to bounce back and get away from what
• 35:26
  Speaker 5: you know Evan was talking about yesterday with the one
• 35:27
  Speaker 5: and run, like Kenny, hang in there, Kenny, you know,
• 35:31
  Speaker 5: manage the blitz, manage what's coming, understand what's coming, nowhere
• 35:34
  Speaker 5: to go with the ball. So it's going to be
• 35:37
  Speaker 5: a really good test for him on the road against
• 35:38
  Speaker 5: a really good defense.
• 35:39
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 35:40
  Speaker 4: They run a lot of crazy pressures, and you know,
• 35:42
  Speaker 4: they'll show pressure from one place and they'll bring it
• 35:45
  Speaker 4: from another. And they really don't have any coverage tendencies
• 35:48
  Speaker 4: like they kind of.
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: I know, that's the dial in the middle of the packet.
• 35:52
  Speaker 5: Like everything every coverage man's own splits everything. It's just
• 35:55
  Speaker 5: it's hard to really get a statistical beat on what
• 35:58
  Speaker 5: they do.
• 35:59
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a it's a really good defense.
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: What's the early line two and a half? I think
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: Bucks are favorite.
• 36:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I think I mean that was Monday. I
• 36:09
  Speaker 3: haven't looked the last couple of days. Yeah, I don't
• 36:12
  Speaker 3: know if that's moved.
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: So a lot of the houses have been calling me
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: telling me that, you know, the getting money at home
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: has been changed. You know, travel is better now these days,
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: and it's not so much a burden for teams, even
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: ones coming. So they're telling me to to tout you know,
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: more like two points sometimes a point and a half
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: for the home team. Oh it's changing.
• 36:35
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean to me, it looks like with the Bucks,
• 36:38
  Speaker 4: you know, if they were healthy on offense, then I
• 36:41
  Speaker 4: think that they would be more prohibitive favorites in this game.
• 36:44
  Speaker 4: But without Evans and Godwin and Bucky Irving, it's just
• 36:47
  Speaker 4: not the same group that they had in the first
• 36:49
  Speaker 4: month of the season. So, you know, first six weeks,
• 36:52
  Speaker 4: he's averaging like twenty seven to twenty eight points a game.
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: They're still favored by a little So is that disrespect
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: to the Patriots. I'm sure you'll find it. Yeah. Oh
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: they hate us.
• 37:01
  Speaker 3: Uh, it's still two and a half according to draft.
• 37:04
  Speaker 4: Allow this disrespect.
• 37:06
  Speaker 5: He just mentioned Buck because he's still one of my
• 37:08
  Speaker 5: all time the Patriots, one of my all time hilarious,
• 37:11
  Speaker 5: like just scouting experiences of like watching Bucker in a
• 37:14
  Speaker 5: couple of years ago and be like.
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: Oh, he's good.
• 37:16
  Speaker 5: You know, he's explosive, like and then we get to
• 37:17
  Speaker 5: the combine, what do you run?
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: Like a four eight?
• 37:19
  Speaker 4: Yeah like that. Yeah, he is definitely like this was
• 37:24
  Speaker 4: already starting to go this way with running backs, but
• 37:26
  Speaker 4: like the forty yard dash for the running backs, a
• 37:28
  Speaker 4: lot of people are starting to just throw out like
• 37:30
  Speaker 4: as a event you can't play. Yeah, so yeah, he
• 37:35
  Speaker 4: was one of those. Kien Williams is another one that
• 37:37
  Speaker 4: ran a really slow forty times, an awesome NFL player,
• 37:41
  Speaker 4: So both those guys have been really good. Like Rashad
• 37:43
  Speaker 4: White's a good pass catching back, Like he's kind of
• 37:45
  Speaker 4: a you know, good act player, get out of the
• 37:47
  Speaker 4: backfield type of player, but he's not he's not buckier.
• 37:50
  Speaker 3: But he doesn't give you the home run potential.
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: That's what it is. The line has now changed to
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: Tampa minus three. Well within seconds, in seconds literally, I.
• 37:59
  Speaker 4: Think I think it was us us talking about it.
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: We just wish your ilk, But what do you think
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: about that? Is that just a money thing? I still
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: don't know they're trying to get England money coming in.
• 38:14
  Speaker 6: I think you've confused me on such an epic scale
• 38:17
  Speaker 6: thread that I just have.
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: No idea what it means anymore. When a line most
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: two and a half, here we go and go from
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: two and a half to three, the houses are saying
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: we need more new England money.
• 38:27
  Speaker 4: Sure, well it is weird because like the reports are
• 38:31
  Speaker 4: that they're getting nobody back right right right, move it.
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: It's weird, Yeah, weird.
• 38:36
  Speaker 4: I mean they might get go Decky back, but he's
• 38:38
  Speaker 4: going to come back off injured reserve and he hasn't
• 38:40
  Speaker 4: practiced or played in a month, like so it.
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: Might be still a week away anyway.
• 38:44
  Speaker 4: Yeah, right, So I don't know, but they're not getting
• 38:47
  Speaker 4: any of their skill players back. It doesn't sound like so.
• 38:50
  Speaker 4: Like I said, I I assuming that Gonzo's okay, which
• 38:54
  Speaker 4: he said he was after the game, but assuming that
• 38:56
  Speaker 4: he's okay, like if you put him on like Buca,
• 38:58
  Speaker 4: like I kind of like how they match up, Like
• 39:01
  Speaker 4: I don't really know where else he's gonna go.
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: Marcus John, I mean some speed on speed there, yeah, I.
• 39:07
  Speaker 4: Mean maybe Kate and gives him some problems, but he's
• 39:09
  Speaker 4: not like an explosive tight end he's got a chain
• 39:12
  Speaker 4: moving tight end.
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so would you be taking the under on this game?
• 39:17
  Speaker 4: I don't know if I'm confident enough what the number
• 39:20
  Speaker 4: is under.
• 39:22
  Speaker 9: No.
• 39:22
  Speaker 6: I think that's a good that's a good qumber.
• 39:24
  Speaker 3: I'll look it up.
• 39:25
  Speaker 2: Okay, seem annoyed at this talk.
• 39:28
  Speaker 3: Like I'm just the whole disrespect thing.
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: I got him, I got him. You didn't know?
• 39:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah, if you say it for the bucks, like just
• 39:38
  Speaker 3: like a spread is a spread?
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: Like what do you mean?
• 39:41
  Speaker 3: Why is why does spreads have to mean something?
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: They always mean something.
• 39:45
  Speaker 3: Yeah, they mean like they're trying to get the betting
• 39:47
  Speaker 3: to be even. That's what it's all means.
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: That's what it means, right, But it means something. So
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: if you go from two and a half to three,
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: it means that money is you know, right, does it
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: mean something or doesn't matter? Or sometimes news comes out that,
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: you know what, players not coming back.
• 40:02
  Speaker 3: That's that's amazing. I literally just did the same thing,
• 40:05
  Speaker 3: clicked on the same link, and it is now three.
• 40:08
  Speaker 3: Like that forty eight and a half I would take
• 40:10
  Speaker 3: the under.
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: I take that that's a lot.
• 40:13
  Speaker 3: Forty eight and a half is the number.
• 40:14
  Speaker 4: Because Tampa's not really scoring like crazy eye that they had.
• 40:18
  Speaker 4: It was twenty three to three against.
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: They've been I think the last two weeks they've had.
• 40:23
  Speaker 4: No Baker lately, last two games is before they're by
• 40:26
  Speaker 4: Baker is only completing like fifty six percent of his passes.
• 40:29
  Speaker 4: They just their guys are hurt. Like it's not a hymn.
• 40:32
  Speaker 5: This is why the Seattle game that I want, that's
• 40:34
  Speaker 5: not that team anymore. But that was a toe to
• 40:37
  Speaker 5: toe thirty five, thirty four whatever it was, like, I mean,
• 40:40
  Speaker 5: just back and forth against each other.
• 40:41
  Speaker 2: And you know that's excess great. You know, obviously we
• 40:44
  Speaker 2: are not allowed to ever ever ever bet thinks, let
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: alone the NFL. But if you're out there and you
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: are someone who likes to dabble, be careful about this game.
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: Be careful.
• 40:56
  Speaker 4: Something's going on, That's what I mean. What is going on?
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: Something I have to wait for somebody from one of
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: the houses.
• 41:04
  Speaker 3: But you say that every single game, every single I
• 41:07
  Speaker 3: do not game. So I'm just curious, like what.
• 41:11
  Speaker 2: Is going on? When I think there's a spread that's
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: a little.
• 41:14
  Speaker 3: Bit okay, So what is fish about this spread?
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: I think it should be closer? Why because I think
• 41:20
  Speaker 2: the Patriots are.
• 41:21
  Speaker 3: A good team, and you don't think Tampa is a
• 41:23
  Speaker 3: good team.
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: Think they're both.
• 41:24
  Speaker 3: I think it's immense respect for the Patriots going on
• 41:26
  Speaker 3: the road with a team coming off it's by that
• 41:29
  Speaker 3: has won consistently as opposed to being the first time
• 41:32
  Speaker 3: they've won. And it's a three point spread, which you've
• 41:35
  Speaker 3: told me numerous times over the last fifteen years. It's
• 41:38
  Speaker 3: basically even because they're home.
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: I just told you that.
• 41:40
  Speaker 3: I know because you changed because the Patriots are not
• 41:42
  Speaker 3: underdogs by three on the road, So you're changing your
• 41:44
  Speaker 3: whole mentality of the last twenty years.
• 41:46
  Speaker 2: I'm getting information. I'm getting information, and I'm like you,
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: I'm not stubborn. I don't know. I don't dig my
• 41:55
  Speaker 2: heels in the sand on every take.
• 41:57
  Speaker 3: I often I often hitting it. I'm wrong. Don't tell
• 42:02
  Speaker 3: me that I don't.
• 42:04
  Speaker 6: It doesn't like Freddy the Greek.
• 42:06
  Speaker 2: It's just if some of Freddy the Greek.
• 42:07
  Speaker 3: Like every single game we do the same thing. It's like,
• 42:10
  Speaker 3: what is just like with Joe Murray, like this.
• 42:13
  Speaker 4: Smells fishing smells like.
• 42:17
  Speaker 3: Not every single game is I don't think it's every single.
• 42:20
  Speaker 4: But there's something the other night smelled a little bit
• 42:26
  Speaker 4: of fish face. Jalen Brown gets tripped on the ground,
• 42:29
  Speaker 4: I don't call it, and then they lose the game.
• 42:31
  Speaker 4: It smelled a little bit fishing.
• 42:32
  Speaker 3: So I would just say, like, all right, Houston, Philadelphia, Seattle,
• 42:39
  Speaker 3: San Francisco, Detroit, those are teams that Tampa's played to
• 42:43
  Speaker 3: get the same record as you. You have Buffalo that
• 42:47
  Speaker 3: are the only team of any close to any of
• 42:50
  Speaker 3: the caliber of those teams. So why is it so
• 42:51
  Speaker 3: out of the ordinary that maybe people look at Tampa's
• 42:54
  Speaker 3: being better than the Patriots.
• 42:56
  Speaker 4: That's why it's only three.
• 42:57
  Speaker 3: That's why it's only three, is exactly right.
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: Why they really don't respect us right well, respect, but
• 43:04
  Speaker 2: I think that creases. That's the disrespect.
• 43:06
  Speaker 3: The biggest thing you have going for you is I
• 43:09
  Speaker 3: think their offense, instead of scoring the thirty plus that
• 43:12
  Speaker 3: they scored a lot earlier in the year, as Mike said,
• 43:15
  Speaker 3: twenty nine, twenty five, thirty eight, thirty in a full
• 43:18
  Speaker 3: week stretch, then they lost all those receivers and it
• 43:21
  Speaker 3: was nine and twenty three. Yeah, Like, so their offense
• 43:25
  Speaker 3: is going the other way. If their offense was still
• 43:27
  Speaker 3: rolling like that, like Evan said, you probably would be
• 43:30
  Speaker 3: maybe a touchdown underdog in this game. I think that's
• 43:33
  Speaker 3: the biggest thing you have going yep, is that they're
• 43:36
  Speaker 3: not going to probably get this to be a shootout.
• 43:40
  Speaker 5: Another part of it, Baker Mayfield has a knee injury.
• 43:42
  Speaker 5: I mean he's been on the injury report too, so
• 43:43
  Speaker 5: that's something to watch the sea.
• 43:44
  Speaker 3: He's mildly inconsistent winning games.
• 43:48
  Speaker 4: His accuracy is interesting to me. Like the Detroit game,
• 43:54
  Speaker 4: he missed so many open receivers and he was awful
• 43:57
  Speaker 4: that night. I mean, he missed Tesz Johnson on a
• 43:59
  Speaker 4: cross route wide open for a touchdown to make that
• 44:03
  Speaker 4: game competitive, and he just airmailed one and like it
• 44:06
  Speaker 4: just he has weird like he's got a rocket for
• 44:09
  Speaker 4: an arm, but he's got these weird like bouts of inaccurate.
• 44:12
  Speaker 3: I just don't look as at Tampa, like when they
• 44:15
  Speaker 3: went to Buffalo, like I was like, that's gonna be
• 44:18
  Speaker 3: tough to win a Buffalo Buffalo is like a touchdown, Like,
• 44:20
  Speaker 3: I don't look at Tampa's good. Yeah, they're I think
• 44:23
  Speaker 3: they're very similar to the Patriots if they have a
• 44:25
  Speaker 3: good like they're a good record, like I could understand
• 44:27
  Speaker 3: like two and a half.
• 44:28
  Speaker 5: Three, Like yeah, just a little more established it. Yeah,
• 44:32
  Speaker 5: especially on the defensive side of the ball.
• 44:33
  Speaker 3: Actually have a.
• 44:34
  Speaker 4: Lot of experience on defense, and they have a Bowls
• 44:37
  Speaker 4: is a great defensive coordinator.
• 44:39
  Speaker 3: Is Larry fort the former linebacker. Yeah, that he's the
• 44:42
  Speaker 3: I know he's the he's the defensive coordinator. He's the guy.
• 44:45
  Speaker 3: Michigan guy yep, played for the Jets. I think Pittsburgh yep.
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 44:50
  Speaker 4: He Their defense is well designed, well executed, well everything offensively.
• 44:55
  Speaker 4: I think another thing that that's interesting about them is
• 44:57
  Speaker 4: they're on their third coordinator in three years because keeps
• 45:00
  Speaker 4: getting his coordinator's head coaching jobs. So they're on a
• 45:04
  Speaker 4: third head oc now. And I think over the last
• 45:07
  Speaker 4: couple of weeks, you know, I think it's injuries, but
• 45:09
  Speaker 4: I know a lot of locally in Tampa they're starting
• 45:11
  Speaker 4: to come after the offensive coordinator a little bit, but
• 45:15
  Speaker 4: I think that's mostly just him.
• 45:16
  Speaker 3: This is a very winnable game, Brad. This isn't like
• 45:19
  Speaker 3: like a lot of people went into Buffalo like, oh,
• 45:21
  Speaker 3: you know, I don't know, maybe they can win this one.
• 45:24
  Speaker 3: I know, this isn't that. If the Patriots win this game,
• 45:26
  Speaker 3: it's a good, solid win. I'm not saying it's not.
• 45:29
  Speaker 3: But it's not like this. Oh man, they shocked the
• 45:31
  Speaker 3: world stunning up set. Oh no, this is a very
• 45:34
  Speaker 3: winnable game.
• 45:35
  Speaker 7: No.
• 45:35
  Speaker 4: The only other thing I would say too about it
• 45:38
  Speaker 4: is I think that they might have a little bit
• 45:42
  Speaker 4: of an advantage in terms like of like in game coaching,
• 45:45
  Speaker 4: like Todd Bowls is not exactly the best in terms
• 45:49
  Speaker 4: of like all the stuff that Paul always brings up
• 45:51
  Speaker 4: on Tuesdays, like managing the clock and like the game
• 45:55
  Speaker 4: situation and like all like it's he's a really really
• 45:59
  Speaker 4: good defensive coordinator, really good at designing defense. But if
• 46:03
  Speaker 4: he gets into a battle of wits with Mike Rabel
• 46:05
  Speaker 4: and it's like a close game late and they both
• 46:07
  Speaker 4: have to make like some you know, in game decision
• 46:09
  Speaker 4: making type of things, I would go advantage Patriots there
• 46:13
  Speaker 4: for sure.
• 46:14
  Speaker 5: One other things, just real quick, Fred that I picked
• 46:16
  Speaker 5: up two punts blocked, one for a touchdown, a field
• 46:19
  Speaker 5: goal attempt blocked for a touchdown as well. They've had
• 46:21
  Speaker 5: some they've had some special teams miscues which maybe you know,
• 46:24
  Speaker 5: in the margins might be a place Patriots could take advantage.
• 46:26
  Speaker 2: All right, well, let's have you joined the discussion. Eight
• 46:30
  Speaker 2: five to five Pats five hundred is the Hotline podcast
• 46:33
  Speaker 2: at Patriots dot com as the email address. What do
• 46:35
  Speaker 2: you think of the disrespect both from the betting world
• 46:39
  Speaker 2: and and in the trade market teams not willing to
• 46:42
  Speaker 2: do business with you? Fred towards Paul because nobody wants
• 46:46
  Speaker 2: to be the team that helped the Patriots regain their greatness, right.
• 46:49
  Speaker 4: I agree with you, Fred, yep.
• 46:52
  Speaker 2: Now that's funny.
• 46:55
  Speaker 3: Spread things is nonsensoral, that's fun No one wants to
• 46:59
  Speaker 3: trade with the Patriots to make them better.
• 47:02
  Speaker 4: I agree, agreed.
• 47:04
  Speaker 2: Let's start with HERM and DC. What's up herm?
• 47:08
  Speaker 10: Hey, what's going on?
• 47:09
  Speaker 2: Fellows?
• 47:09
  Speaker 8: How you doing.
• 47:11
  Speaker 2: The defensive court? Quick question?
• 47:17
  Speaker 10: No, quick question? So to win the game, there's a
• 47:21
  Speaker 10: little bit of disappointment slash surprise, as Paul says surrounding
• 47:26
  Speaker 10: the trade out line that we didn't make it moves
• 47:29
  Speaker 10: but doesn't affect that the Bills, uh still pat obviously,
• 47:34
  Speaker 10: the Jets subtracted and Dolphin and the Dolphins maybe guys
• 47:39
  Speaker 10: still a little better considering I think it was one
• 47:42
  Speaker 10: of the coach variables his goals to win a division,
• 47:46
  Speaker 10: which I think is still full in play at this point.
• 47:50
  Speaker 10: And I'll take it off there.
• 47:51
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 47:52
  Speaker 4: So I think it's interesting because I often think about
• 47:55
  Speaker 4: those goals because his first checkpoint was take advantage of
• 47:58
  Speaker 4: bad football?
• 48:00
  Speaker 3: Why you want a game Sunday?
• 48:01
  Speaker 4: I think we were there.
• 48:02
  Speaker 2: I think we've done that absolutely.
• 48:03
  Speaker 4: His second checkpoint was when the division. His third checkpoint
• 48:07
  Speaker 4: was host home playoff game, which I guess kind of
• 48:08
  Speaker 4: goes hand in hand with the division, and then compete
• 48:11
  Speaker 4: for championships Like that was sort of the the how
• 48:16
  Speaker 4: how far have they gotten?
• 48:18
  Speaker 11: Like?
• 48:18
  Speaker 4: Are they just at take advantage of bad football? Because
• 48:21
  Speaker 4: they are deadline signals to me that they feel like
• 48:23
  Speaker 4: that's just where they are. They might win the division anyways,
• 48:27
  Speaker 4: just because of the way it's set up for them,
• 48:29
  Speaker 4: but they they might feel like they're not really in
• 48:31
  Speaker 4: that compete for championships category yet.
• 48:35
  Speaker 2: I mean, it's lining up for that Buffalo game.
• 48:37
  Speaker 6: I mean, I don't I don't want to look ahead,
• 48:38
  Speaker 6: you know, I don't want to want to look ahead.
• 48:39
  Speaker 3: It wasn't that the meeting this week. You can look ahead.
• 48:42
  Speaker 3: There was no one there to keep us grounded.
• 48:44
  Speaker 2: You know that, right, yeah, speech.
• 48:49
  Speaker 4: There's nothing, there was no like you know what, fact,
• 48:52
  Speaker 4: keep your eye on the ball.
• 48:53
  Speaker 2: There's not everyone has their own style.
• 48:55
  Speaker 5: But you know, even if you go to and one
• 48:57
  Speaker 5: over these next three, I mean not asking a lot,
• 48:59
  Speaker 5: I don't think to you know, maybe, I mean, Cincinnati
• 49:01
  Speaker 5: probably gonna have to put some points on the board
• 49:03
  Speaker 5: against those guys. But you know, you go to and
• 49:05
  Speaker 5: one over these three, you get the bye week, there's
• 49:07
  Speaker 5: gonna be a lot of hype. The Bills are probably
• 49:09
  Speaker 5: gonna win. I mean very well. Could be adding up
• 49:11
  Speaker 5: that you know for sure that it will be for
• 49:14
  Speaker 5: the division, but it's probably gonna feel like it when
• 49:16
  Speaker 5: we go into that I'm gonna.
• 49:17
  Speaker 3: Just gonna be pretty cool. I'm going into that game
• 49:19
  Speaker 3: thinking to myself, that's for the division.
• 49:21
  Speaker 2: So I heard something that that game can't be flexed
• 49:25
  Speaker 2: to a night game because we've already had a night
• 49:29
  Speaker 2: game with that opponent. I'd never heard this rule.
• 49:33
  Speaker 3: I had not heard of that, but it would make sense.
• 49:35
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that does check out.
• 49:37
  Speaker 2: That's good.
• 49:37
  Speaker 5: So you're gonna have a you know, a December ball
• 49:40
  Speaker 5: Baltimore is the one way then you've got to go
• 49:42
  Speaker 5: to Baltimore or that you could flex that.
• 49:44
  Speaker 2: Two right right right, yes, saying yeah, but it would be.
• 49:47
  Speaker 3: Interesting if the Patriots keep winning, they're gonna want to
• 49:50
  Speaker 3: get that. I mean, the Patriots are a huge market
• 49:53
  Speaker 3: for the for the league. They're going to want to
• 49:55
  Speaker 3: get the Patriots in that prime time if they can't
• 49:58
  Speaker 3: if they you know, if they're I don't know, ten
• 50:02
  Speaker 3: and three, why wouldn't you want to get them on
• 50:05
  Speaker 3: TV more?
• 50:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you know in those windows.
• 50:08
  Speaker 3: And I think you mean Drake May is an m
• 50:10
  Speaker 3: VP candidate.
• 50:11
  Speaker 2: Absolutely.
• 50:11
  Speaker 5: Baltimore is right after Buffalo, right, so it's like, you know,
• 50:14
  Speaker 5: you happen to win that game, I mean, you got
• 50:15
  Speaker 5: to keep it rolling against probably a Ravens team that
• 50:18
  Speaker 5: I'm assuming at that point is making a push and
• 50:21
  Speaker 5: is you know, playing better and you know.
• 50:23
  Speaker 3: That still healthy. That's a good point that Evan makes.
• 50:27
  Speaker 3: That's a candidate to go together the soup.
• 50:31
  Speaker 4: Drake May is like stardom is and it's not just locally,
• 50:34
  Speaker 4: like he is a superstar nationally at this point. And
• 50:38
  Speaker 4: I think it's his playing style, Like I think it's
• 50:40
  Speaker 4: just you know, he just is so fun to watch
• 50:42
  Speaker 4: because of how you know, explosive the offense is with
• 50:45
  Speaker 4: him at quarterback, and like it's not just us, like
• 50:48
  Speaker 4: the national media is falling over themselves.
• 50:50
  Speaker 3: Over every week. Every week that they're like effusive.
• 50:53
  Speaker 6: It's just like the down the downfield pass.
• 50:57
  Speaker 3: Like it's not like I'm not saying it's the same,
• 50:59
  Speaker 3: but like it's Mahomes and Allen. It's like he's running around,
• 51:03
  Speaker 3: he's making plays, He's making these throws down the field
• 51:05
  Speaker 3: that not everybody can do.
• 51:06
  Speaker 2: It's exciting. Yeah.
• 51:07
  Speaker 5: That Buffalo game too, is like a couple of I
• 51:09
  Speaker 5: mean everybody, of course, but everybody saw it because it
• 51:12
  Speaker 5: was on that national.
• 51:14
  Speaker 4: When you have a quarterback that's just physically talented as
• 51:17
  Speaker 4: he is, and then their top five in the league
• 51:19
  Speaker 4: and explosive play raids, so like you're watching an offense
• 51:21
  Speaker 4: that just every weekmakers and it's just everybody's just he's
• 51:26
  Speaker 4: an absolute superstar.
• 51:28
  Speaker 3: Uh.
• 51:28
  Speaker 2: Francisco is in North Carolina. Hey, Francisco fan Cicco, Francisco
• 51:36
  Speaker 2: run Cisco. Right, So that's a fun Francis.
• 51:39
  Speaker 4: It was fun guy, have fun.
• 51:41
  Speaker 7: All right?
• 51:42
  Speaker 3: I agree with you a little touch today, Like I
• 51:44
  Speaker 3: didn't care about where you're.
• 51:46
  Speaker 2: Going, Evan going to see rabel I thought he was
• 51:50
  Speaker 2: at one o'clock. Yeah, it's it's it's you got ten
• 51:53
  Speaker 2: minutes don't leave us. You gotta catch a an uber
• 51:56
  Speaker 2: to get over there.
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: What are you doing? Why didn't you make any move?
• 52:02
  Speaker 2: You don't want to win? All right, he's out. Let's
• 52:06
  Speaker 2: go to Monroe in North Carolina. Hey, Monroe, Roe, Monroe,
• 52:12
  Speaker 2: one roll. Good job, Ray, it was only like fifty minutes. Okay,
• 52:18
  Speaker 2: how about we go to Fresno. Cody's and Fresno Hey Cody.
• 52:23
  Speaker 9: Hey, guys, thanks for taking the call.
• 52:24
  Speaker 2: Sure.
• 52:25
  Speaker 9: A couple of thoughts and observations I wanted to share
• 52:27
  Speaker 9: with you over the course of the season. I think
• 52:32
  Speaker 9: you guys have mentioned it. We start a little slow
• 52:35
  Speaker 9: in regards to giving up descriptive drive from the other team,
• 52:39
  Speaker 9: But on Sunday it was kind of the opposite. First
• 52:42
  Speaker 9: half we did well and we went down the field,
• 52:44
  Speaker 9: but the second half we kind of fell apart and
• 52:46
  Speaker 9: let the team come back.
• 52:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 52:48
  Speaker 9: So from what I've seen, it's kind of been a
• 52:50
  Speaker 9: tail of the two halves for the whole year.
• 52:51
  Speaker 2: Yep.
• 52:52
  Speaker 9: And I'm wondering what the reason for that is. The
• 52:55
  Speaker 9: other question or the other thought I had is, excuse me.
• 53:01
  Speaker 9: A lot of times when we're playing these teams, I
• 53:03
  Speaker 9: feel like they get a lot of injuries, They get
• 53:06
  Speaker 9: banged up, and it seems like the effort and toughness
• 53:10
  Speaker 9: that the team plays with is too much to handle.
• 53:12
  Speaker 9: I don't know what it is exactly, but I noticed
• 53:15
  Speaker 9: a lot of injuries for our opponents when we play them.
• 53:17
  Speaker 3: So I'm wondering what heading into the games, Well, we
• 53:21
  Speaker 3: beat them up to I know what you're saying. I mean,
• 53:23
  Speaker 3: the Patriots lost a lot more players during that game
• 53:25
  Speaker 3: the other day than Atlanta did. But we're tougher, right,
• 53:29
  Speaker 3: Patriots had like four or five guys leave that game
• 53:31
  Speaker 3: the other day. The Falcons had a couple to the lineman.
• 53:35
  Speaker 3: I think the guard got hurt early in the game
• 53:38
  Speaker 3: on Yeah, but I think the injuries are more so
• 53:41
  Speaker 3: teams are banged up heading into games.
• 53:45
  Speaker 9: What are you saying, Cody, I was going to say,
• 53:49
  Speaker 9: sometimes during the games, at least the one the dark Seam,
• 53:52
  Speaker 9: the teams that get banged up, those players are like
• 53:54
  Speaker 9: out for the game. A lot of times are players
• 53:56
  Speaker 9: when we get banged up. Fortunately, we've been We've been lucky.
• 53:59
  Speaker 9: Major injuries. Yeah, yeah, we've been major injuries. We'll get
• 54:03
  Speaker 9: banged up a movie.
• 54:06
  Speaker 3: I just said, we're lucky. They had guys leave the
• 54:09
  Speaker 3: game the other day.
• 54:10
  Speaker 2: I know. But overall in the season, you have to
• 54:12
  Speaker 2: admit we've been pretty good with injuries.
• 54:14
  Speaker 3: We've been excellent with injuries. I don't really see a
• 54:16
  Speaker 3: correlation like the in game injuries, Like I.
• 54:20
  Speaker 2: Haven't really clocked it.
• 54:20
  Speaker 3: I don't think it's.
• 54:21
  Speaker 2: Like all right, coach, it's like hang in there. So
• 54:25
  Speaker 2: it's the.
• 54:26
  Speaker 3: Point other than to say what you said.
• 54:29
  Speaker 2: Luck, Yeah, we've been pretty lucky to.
• 54:31
  Speaker 5: His first point, though, that was a funny part of
• 54:33
  Speaker 5: Rabel's press conference on Monday, where he kind of was like,
• 54:36
  Speaker 5: for those of you want to.
• 54:36
  Speaker 2: Know, I'd much rather prefer to have a slow first
• 54:39
  Speaker 2: drive and.
• 54:39
  Speaker 3: Finished, rather get a touchdown on the first drive and
• 54:41
  Speaker 3: shut him out the rest of the way than what
• 54:43
  Speaker 3: happened on Sunday.
• 54:43
  Speaker 2: Right now, now his thing about like why haven't be
• 54:47
  Speaker 2: able to put sixty minutes together? I think a lot
• 54:51
  Speaker 2: of it has to do with, you know, with matchups
• 54:55
  Speaker 2: and other teams making you know, us making adjustments to
• 54:58
  Speaker 2: make bad into good. But I think in this case,
• 55:01
  Speaker 2: I think Atlanta made some good adjustments in the second
• 55:04
  Speaker 2: half to give us trouble. Each game is a little
• 55:07
  Speaker 2: bit different, I think to say oh, this is the
• 55:10
  Speaker 2: reason why they haven't put sixty minutes together. And that's
• 55:13
  Speaker 2: it's one reason. I think. It's every game has its
• 55:16
  Speaker 2: own reason. Yeah, you know, like last game, that play
• 55:19
  Speaker 2: with Drake changed everything. You know, if he doesn't make that,
• 55:23
  Speaker 2: I'm not sure that we're in a battle at the
• 55:25
  Speaker 2: end of that game. But so every game you have
• 55:29
  Speaker 2: to look at every game in its own context. I think, yeah,
• 55:32
  Speaker 2: I think that's a good way to put it.
• 55:34
  Speaker 5: And I continue just to struggle to really get a
• 55:36
  Speaker 5: beat on the defense. Like I believe in their run
• 55:38
  Speaker 5: defense now, I really do like that's something I think
• 55:40
  Speaker 5: is a truth. But as we talked about yesterday, there's
• 55:43
  Speaker 5: just you know, something doesn't quite add up. And you know,
• 55:46
  Speaker 5: Evan's kind of theory is that it's some of the
• 55:49
  Speaker 5: coverage stuff.
• 55:50
  Speaker 2: But I just I don't know, still don't know what.
• 55:54
  Speaker 5: To think of this defense when it comes down to
• 55:56
  Speaker 5: it against a good quarterback and I got to have
• 55:57
  Speaker 5: it moment and are they going to be the.
• 55:59
  Speaker 2: Defense of it?
• 56:00
  Speaker 1: Is?
• 56:00
  Speaker 2: That's the NFL, you know, that's why most games are
• 56:04
  Speaker 2: one score or less, you know, eight points or less.
• 56:07
  Speaker 3: Eb and flow Fred's point is right, it's probably something
• 56:11
  Speaker 3: different from game to game. I think Mike makes a
• 56:16
  Speaker 3: good point of having a hard time getting a read
• 56:18
  Speaker 3: on the defense. Offensively, to me, has been much bigger
• 56:22
  Speaker 3: fluctuation from half to half. The Miami game they did
• 56:26
  Speaker 3: very little in the second half, the Tennessee game, very
• 56:28
  Speaker 3: little in the second half. New Orleans very little in
• 56:30
  Speaker 3: the second half. This game, Atlanta nothing in the second half,
• 56:36
  Speaker 3: Raiders nothing in the second half. The Cleveland game is
• 56:40
  Speaker 3: nothing in the first half, and then they had a
• 56:42
  Speaker 3: great second half offensively. So I think it just kind
• 56:46
  Speaker 3: of speaks to Evan's point about not necessarily wanting to
• 56:50
  Speaker 3: embrace the trade deadline and going all in. They kind
• 56:53
  Speaker 3: of know what they are. They don't have quite enough
• 56:57
  Speaker 3: to do any of this for sixty minutes, and they
• 57:00
  Speaker 3: know it, and I think they're coaching their asses off
• 57:04
  Speaker 3: to get what they're getting out of what they have.
• 57:08
  Speaker 3: And it's hard to just, you know, scheme up a
• 57:11
  Speaker 3: pop Douglas play like that for sixty full minutes. You
• 57:14
  Speaker 3: know they've been able to do it. You know they
• 57:17
  Speaker 3: did it coming out of the halftime break against Cleveland,
• 57:19
  Speaker 3: But all those other games they had really good first
• 57:22
  Speaker 3: halfs offensively and kind of slowed down a little bit
• 57:24
  Speaker 3: in the second half. Yeah, because I think once to
• 57:27
  Speaker 3: Fred's point, once the other team sort of figures it
• 57:29
  Speaker 3: out a little bit, sometimes they have as much talent
• 57:33
  Speaker 3: as you, if not more, and they're able to neutralize you,
• 57:36
  Speaker 3: even as well as Drake May has played.
• 57:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah, remember that.
• 57:39
  Speaker 3: That's a very simplistic way of looking at the conversation.
• 57:41
  Speaker 5: I think we had last year, We've had it from
• 57:42
  Speaker 5: time to time, But just how many actual really good
• 57:44
  Speaker 5: defenses are there in the league that are consistently every
• 57:47
  Speaker 5: week they show up sixty minutes. It's you know, it's
• 57:50
  Speaker 5: I think this is kind of how the league is
• 57:52
  Speaker 5: to some extent, And that's part of my that's unsure
• 57:55
  Speaker 5: because I do think that, you know, if you were
• 57:57
  Speaker 5: to get into a playoff game, I can sell myself
• 58:00
  Speaker 5: on yeah, it's going to be back and forth and
• 58:02
  Speaker 5: they're going to give up some points, but when it
• 58:04
  Speaker 5: comes down to the final five minutes of the game,
• 58:06
  Speaker 5: I feel pretty good about Milton Williams and Christian Barmore
• 58:09
  Speaker 5: and those guys being the kind of guys that can
• 58:11
  Speaker 5: finish the game.
• 58:12
  Speaker 6: Now, do I know they're going to do it?
• 58:13
  Speaker 5: No, But I'll this is kind of how NFL defense
• 58:16
  Speaker 5: is now too, you know.
• 58:17
  Speaker 2: Yep, Anthony's in Seattle. Hey, Anthony, Hey.
• 58:21
  Speaker 12: What's uping to people?
• 58:22
  Speaker 2: Hey?
• 58:23
  Speaker 12: Hey, so I've been sending in the PFW Mott covers
• 58:27
  Speaker 12: ever since you gouts on the college came with that idea,
• 58:29
  Speaker 12: and I had I had a headline all ready. If
• 58:34
  Speaker 12: the game had played out the way it looked like
• 58:35
  Speaker 12: it was going to play out, it was going to
• 58:37
  Speaker 12: be doing the Birds dirty. But of course, you know,
• 58:41
  Speaker 12: the game turned on his head and there was another
• 58:42
  Speaker 12: drake who was the start.
• 58:43
  Speaker 2: Of the game.
• 58:43
  Speaker 12: So I kind of leaned into that, but it was
• 58:45
  Speaker 12: it was half parted. I sent it int Alex, but
• 58:47
  Speaker 12: just let her know I no offense if it's if
• 58:49
  Speaker 12: it doesn't make the newsletter, because it did. Wasn't my best, Okay.
• 58:55
  Speaker 12: I wanted to talk a little bit about Josh McDaniels.
• 58:58
  Speaker 12: I've been kind of noticing so, you know how you
• 59:01
  Speaker 12: kind of look at him Bill a little bit different,
• 59:03
  Speaker 12: the further he's removed from having top Tom Brady.
• 59:06
  Speaker 2: At his hips.
• 59:08
  Speaker 12: I'm having that same effect with Josh McDaniels, but in
• 59:11
  Speaker 12: a good way, and I'm starting to really look at
• 59:14
  Speaker 12: him like man like like if you look at like
• 59:16
  Speaker 12: the version of Cam Newton he had to work with,
• 59:18
  Speaker 12: then you know, Max Jones, rookie year, another feather in
• 59:21
  Speaker 12: his cap, and then Drake May who's you know, you
• 59:24
  Speaker 12: could argue he's probably the most talented quarterback he's had
• 59:27
  Speaker 12: to work with. But then okay, that that might be
• 59:31
  Speaker 12: the case, but this is no you know, run of
• 59:33
  Speaker 12: the mill year two jump. This is like, this kid's
• 59:36
  Speaker 12: an MVP candidate. This is like like like dramatic what
• 59:40
  Speaker 12: he's doing. And I'm looking at Josh like, man, you know,
• 59:44
  Speaker 12: I didn't know he was this good. And you know,
• 59:47
  Speaker 12: I'm not as convinced anymore that that he's not gonna
• 59:52
  Speaker 12: get another third head coaching opportunity somewhere. Just you know
• 59:56
  Speaker 12: that it's it's it's it's he's got a strong resume
• 59:59
  Speaker 12: out there, so a certain a.
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 2: Head coach in the college.
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 3: It's interesting I brought that up a few weeks ago,
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 3: I think with on my show with with Mike and
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 3: Tony and I may have we may have talked about
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 3: it here too. I would have told you heading into
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 3: the season, regardless of how well Josh McDaniels does, he's done,
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 3: he had two, not just too bad. He had two
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 3: disasters as a head coach. Now, there are plenty of
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 3: examples of guys that get more than two chances for
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 3: whatever reason, and they're not guys that you think of,
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 3: like you know, Pete Carroll's one of them, and he's
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 3: had obviously a lot of success, But like guys like
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 3: Norv Turner who basically didn't really do it all three times,
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 3: Wade Phillips, you know some guys like that. I think
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 3: Anthony makes a good point when you look at just
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 3: how much better Drake Matt. Now I've been on Mike
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 3: and I kind of bickered about this on a postgame
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 3: show and we did a trash talk for it on
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 3: the TV show. I give a lot more credit to
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 3: Drake May, but it's inarguable that Josh McDaniels has had
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 3: an enormous impact positive impact on.
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 2: I mean, and if you're looking at seasons that Josh
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 2: kind of proved himself without Tom Brady, you have to
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 2: include that Cam Newton season too. That was the corpse
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 2: of Cam Newton and what they won nine games or
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 2: something that that that year.
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 3: Seven, But they were terrible and there was terrible.
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 2: A lot they won games with this guy who like
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 2: was washed immediately. It was more than Cam Newton.
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 5: It was that was a terrible team, you know, I mean,
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 5: it's terrible, but I like, I don't. I mean, I
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 5: give Josh a lot of credit to but I also
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 5: want to see how this finishes up, because this is
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 5: where offensive coordinators earn their money. It's not when you
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 5: spring something new on the league and you have some
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 5: success at the beginning. It's about what happens when they
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 5: catch up. What happens when they catch up. Drake May's
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 5: coming off the tough game, Drake May felt sped.
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 2: Up again for the first time in a couple of
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 2: months now.
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 5: So this is where you know, this is we're talking
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 5: to the Patriots have a chance at the division. Well
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 5: do they continue to peak and rise or do they
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 5: kind of level off and Drake May returns to earth.
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 5: I'm sure there'll be some element of that. He's not
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 5: going to play at the level he played at a
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 5: couple of weeks ago consistently. But this is to me
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 5: where you prove it. So I appreciate what he's saying
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 5: and then give credit to both those guys. And it's
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 5: been great, but let's see how it looks in November and.
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 3: Yet not yet, not yet, Okay, But I do think
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 3: Anthony's point is not out of the realm of possibility.
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 3: Do I expect him to get another job. No, I don't.
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 3: But I would have said there's a zero percent chance
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 3: heading into the season. I don't put it at zero anymore.
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 3: And I think Fred's point about college is also, yeah,
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 3: if the right kind of opportunity came up. I know
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 3: he loves this area. He doesn't want to take his
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 3: kids out of here. That's why I would put it
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 3: at a very small percentage. I just wants to stay here.
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 5: I know that's and that's when I look at when
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 5: I look at him, and he just seems so like
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 5: you know, new age Josh.
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 6: He seems relaxed.
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 5: He seems like he has this young quarterback and I
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 5: just he's never going to tell the media. And I'm
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 5: sure everyone wants to ask him this, but you know,
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 5: for him, like it's easy to say, I could imagine
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 5: him being like, man, I got it made, like I
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 5: you know, I can sit here with Drake may re
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 5: establish myself as you know, an all time New England
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 5: Patriot coach as an offensive coordinator.
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 2: Yes, but at the same time, like.
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 5: Go get some super bowls, go get go answer some
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 5: of these people that you know felt like, oh it
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 5: was all Tom, or it was all Bill.
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 2: I mean, Josh, you.
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 6: Know not no one's ever going to give him all
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 6: the credit.
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 5: But I think he can continue to really cement his
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 5: legacy as one of the greatest Patriots coaches of all
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 5: time if he does this again with with Drake May
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 5: and wins playoff games with him.
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 2: Brady writes in New England Transplant, who has Bucks season tickets?
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 2: Since it sounds like you about twenty twenty one, Tom
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 2: Brady can assure you it does not matter how well
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 2: the Bucks are playing. Other teams take over Raymond James
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 2: every week. Really obviously late in the fall, with the
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 2: weather being great here compared to the North, that factors
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 2: in for fans traveling down, but it goes beyond that.
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 2: So far this season, I would estimate the crowds have
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 2: been thirty five percent Jets fan, fifty percent Eagles fan.
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 2: For that game nine ers, I'm estimating between forty and
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 2: fifty per Patriots fans. Yeah, well, it's supposed to be huge.
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 3: I talked to I told you my my ticket contact
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 3: within it. By far and away, the people in Tampa
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 3: have told us that, by far and away, this is
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 3: the most visiting fan ticket request they've gotten, and it
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 3: makes sense, Like, but what you're talking about San Francisco
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 3: might be a little bit of an outlier. But the
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 3: Jets and Philly people from that this area, they go
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 3: down to Florida, they want to do it. And I
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 3: know those games were earlier in the year, but it's
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 3: still much better down there than what we had lastly.
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 2: Evan is correct about the Bucks defense. If you're going
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 2: to score on them, you better start early. Bowles makes
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 2: incredible in game adjustments and gives quarterbacks trouble.
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that's good. That's good intel all around. I
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 3: do expect there to be a lot of Patriots fans,
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 3: based on what I've been told, a lot of Patriots
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 3: fans in Tampa.
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 2: Chad's not happy at Chad Chad, Chad Chad, because I
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 2: get pessimistic at times. That being said, the lack of
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 2: any moves at all yesterday was kind of confusing and troubling.
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 2: Do they not think that they're good enough of a
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 2: contender to bother to add anyone, or do they honestly
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 2: think they can sustain with what they have. Either way,
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 2: it doesn't sit well with me.
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 6: Yeah, well I think I think they tried.
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 3: I need more information.
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 2: Takes two to tango.
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 13: Yeah, do you know they tried? Yeah, Tennessee, how do
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 13: you know that they tried? I was told, okay, that's
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 13: what I asked, do you know? And I said yes,
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 13: But I wanted to know why.
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 3: It was just afraidism.
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 2: No, it's just like a lot of moving thing.
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 7: Or we.
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 2: Were told the person we wanted wasn't going to be traded,
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 2: and then they weren't going to trade him, and then
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 2: they traded him. All right, Well, rivalry back on them.
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 3: Maybe they didn't want to trade what they didn't want
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 3: to give what Baltimore gave.
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 2: I don't know. No, No, we were told not trading them,
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 2: m okay yeah, and then I tell him they didn't
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 2: believe me. So I don't know. I don't know what
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 2: to say.
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 14: The lines back down to two and a half.
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 2: You can feel the line moving talking about it.
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 3: It's magic.
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 2: Moneys are listening right. There's a lot of money changing
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 2: hands right now.
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 3: Like some kid making ten dollars an hour. That's like, yeah,
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 3: two point five.
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 2: Oh, man, imagine that.
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 5: I just That's why I'm like sometimes I think when
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 5: we watch some of the like the gambling ads and stuff,
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 5: I'm like, I'm just kind of glad that I'm being
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 5: saved for myself that I just can't even really consider
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 5: it because it just seems like once I start doing it,
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 5: you know, like watching the Bruins last night, like things
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 5: like that, Like I feel like it'd be so easy, like, yeah,
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 5: give me a three.
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 3: You watch like Bruins last night? How do you do that?
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 5: I got, I got, I got a fool, I got
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 5: a fubo. Now you can I tell you how much
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 5: I hate the Bruins. I'm really I really don't like
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 5: them right now.
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 2: I hate the defense.
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 3: We're hot. I know that's because the best defenseman's hurt.
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 3: I hate I hate the door off, the door off.
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 3: I hate what's this space?
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 2: Linholm?
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 9: That guy?
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 3: Oh I like Hampus Campus, I like him. I don't
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 3: like that, And it's because I see a little too
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 3: much of myself on it. Did you see did you
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 3: see last night he had a play with the power
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 3: play and they do that thing where they bring it
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 3: up and then they pass it back to the lake
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 3: guy and he passed it back to the other team at.
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 7: Breakout.
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 3: I don't know why that became such a thing, but
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 3: everybody does it.
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 5: Well it's fine if you don't. Just don't give to
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 5: the other team hampus because now they're going in. I
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 5: know they're defense bug.
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 2: Here we go.
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 7: Fantastic.
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 4: Talked about doing your due diligence regarding trades.
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 9: I'm wondering were you.
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 7: Close to making What did I say on Monday? Because
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 7: I forgot I.
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 4: Said you were going to due diligence.
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 15: So I'm wondering were you close to making any deals?
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 11: And is there any measure of disappointment?
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 16: Well, first, I would say that deals are like being pregnant.
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 16: You either are or you aren't. There's no like. It's
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 16: either a deal or it's not. So I don't know
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 16: how close you can be. I know that everyone worked hard,
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 16: that we investigated and looked in and made phone calls,
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 16: and they what personnel departments, and in the end, you know,
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 16: we decided that this was what we were going to
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 16: do and decided to move forward with our preparation.
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 7: Tampa excellent football team coming off of BUYE.
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 16: A lot of really good veterans that have played at
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 16: a high level for a lot of years in a
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 16: really really competitive quarterback who's never out of it.
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 7: So, you know, that's where our focus is.
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 16: I know that there's a lot of action and a
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 16: lot of talk, and again, it's kind of where we're at.
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 17: We called it all for the organization to sort of
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 17: adhere to its plan when you guys are performing the
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 17: wait you're performing right.
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 2: Now the top of the division and feel the top of.
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 17: The conference, just to be a little bit more aggressive
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 17: to try to capitalize on what's happening now.
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 7: No, I never really looked at it that way.
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 16: I think we're trying to build a program, the same
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 16: thing that we said when we got here, and I
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 16: think that's part of building a program is finding way
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 16: to win and building a team and figuring out where
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 16: the pieces are that we can continue to add that
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 16: when it makes sense. And so I don't think anything.
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 16: I don't think this is a negative. I don't think
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 16: this is this is just where we're at. And uh,
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 16: you know, I know they worked extremely hard to make
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 16: calls and have conversations.
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 7: And then in the end and we didn't do anything injuries.
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 3: That's a situation where you'd just like to slot in
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 3: Kyle Williams or could pop dit more snaps as well.
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 16: Well, I think that if you know anything about the group,
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 16: which I know that you guys do, you know there's
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 16: a lot of interchangeable parts. They play different positions, they're
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 16: in different spots, and that that's not easy. I mean,
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 16: that's not you know, I mean going from the Z
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 16: in this personnel group to the to the X. And
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 16: so I give those guys a lot of credit. I
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 16: give Todd a lot of credit for being able to
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 16: teach it in a manner that allows them to get
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 16: lined up.
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 7: And so.
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 16: You know that group, they'll all play, they'll all contribute.
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 16: We'll see where Caysehin is at the end of the week.
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 16: But he won't be out there today, and Ellis won't
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 16: be out there, and Remandre won't be.
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 7: Out there today. So give other guys opportunities.
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 15: Mike theod stuff I did.
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 3: How much as he helped change the whole truth that
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 3: he wanted to change.
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 16: Well, I appreciate everything he does. I appreciate his leadership,
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 16: his communication. It's easy to talk to I've said that before.
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 7: You know, he.
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 16: You know, nothing's forced nothing's you know, he just it's
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 16: like very easy conversations.
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 7: It's been in here a lot, you know.
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 16: I mean again, forty one guys lifted yesterday on a
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 16: day off, came into the building lifted, which I thought
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 16: is a really positive thing at this time of the year.
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 16: And well, you know, we talked to him about the
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 16: seasons really just getting started right now.
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 3: But the challenge is talk with this defense to present
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 3: as how much as it involved.
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 9: Of course the time.
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 16: Well, you know, I'm gonna give Todd credit, but obviously
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 16: the credit goes to the players. They've got veteran players
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 16: that play physical, you know, two really aggressive corners you know,
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 16: obviously the safeties playmakers with Winfield, but up front you know,
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 16: I mean Vita and Reddick and the Abby being Levante.
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 7: David's been doing.
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 16: It at such a high level, you know, So again,
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 16: credit to the players. And then what Todd adds is
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 16: just a lot of pressure, great disguises, bringing multiple players
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 16: from off the football.
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 7: It's not just you know, a linebacker.
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 16: You could have a corner, you could have a safety,
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 16: you could have the nickel, and the coverage changes, and
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 16: you've seen them force a lot of turnovers, especially on
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 16: third down, when quarterbacks are making quick decisions that they
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 16: make the wrong decision. So ten turnovers in the last
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 16: four games. This this will be critical that we take
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 16: care of football like your you know, the.
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 17: Blung term vision for the program. You know is what's
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 17: most important.
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 16: Your in factor is winning is the most important thing.
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 16: Don't put words in my mouth. Winning is the most
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 16: important thing.
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 7: When are just going when.
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 17: You guys are discussing how to handle the trade, that line,
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 17: the fact of how wide open the AFC currently looks
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 17: like at all factor into your decision.
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 16: Maybe for us to sit here and think that anything
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 16: is wide open and talk about playoffs like we're focusing
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 16: on our tenth game in a row.
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 7: That's what we're focused on, is how do.
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 16: We get prepared on when Wednesday, How do we get
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 16: our bodies back, how do we get mentally prepared, physically
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 16: prepared to go on the road to a place that
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 16: is hard to play. And that's where our focus is.
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 16: It's not trying to predict the future saying well, it's
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 16: wide open. It's what we're just going to keep focusing
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 16: on what's in front of us, and that's what those
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 16: conversations are about about.
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 3: The Patriot excuse about the Buckingers offense, What is it
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 3: about their scheme that really challenges you?
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 16: And a lot of stuff before the snap. You know,
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 16: we'll have to be great with just the motions and
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 16: the shifts. And again, give them credit. They've got guys
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 16: going in different spots and jet motions and fly motions,
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 16: getting guys open, you know, getting guys open because defenses
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 16: are having issues with their eyes and they're looking at
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 16: this tight end and the other one is releasing and
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 16: he's wide open. And you know, Baker can extend plays
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 16: or even the manufacture the keepers to both sides. It's
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 16: not like he's just you know, moving the pocket one
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 16: direction if you don't give it a clean look. If
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 16: you give him a clean look, he's going to be
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 16: able to function extremely well. And you know, and then
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 16: they've got backs that can really hurt you. Uh, it's
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 16: it's downtown to get it to one of these backs.
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 16: And then it's an open field tackle drill. And you know,
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 16: they've created X plays that way and they're hard to tackle.
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 4: Their injury situation, does that make it a little more
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  Speaker 4: difficult to prepare for.
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  Speaker 7: Them this week?
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  Speaker 16: I mean, I would imagine we're planning on, I mean
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  Speaker 16: other than I would say probably Mike Evan, But I
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  Speaker 16: mean I think that the plays have remained consistent and
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 16: we'll just have to continue to prepare as everybody's going
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 16: to be there.
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 18: De Maria Douglas said after the game of this season
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 18: has been or trust the process kind of mentality for him,
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 18: just for his like lack of snacks at the beginning
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 18: to now.
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 4: Like getting some more. Just what have you seen from.
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 18: Him as a season has gone on that has allowed
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 18: him to.
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  Speaker 4: Kind of succeed in these past few games.
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 16: The way he has same positive attitude every day, same
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 16: you know, workmanlike attitude, infectious energy that everybody loves being
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 16: around him, being ready for his opportunity and not knowing
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 16: which way the game is gonna go and how those
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 16: snaps are gonna unfold, and then just being ready to
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 16: play multiple positions and do multiple things. And you know,
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  Speaker 16: that's just a great example of you know, being ready
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 16: to go.
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  Speaker 18: Where do you see from him in terms of being
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 18: like a default pride, Well, I.
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 3: Mean he's good.
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  Speaker 16: I mean anytime you know you can get a player
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 16: in there and a slot that can you know work vertical,
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 16: Uh can track the ball. You know, again, when I
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 16: think Drake looks for him when he extends, you know,
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 16: down the field. So those are all important things. He's
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 16: he's been reliable, He's created separation.
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  Speaker 7: I know this guy.
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna stop it being made.
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 2: Your players, sometimes all of them will roster the spot.
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 16: The guys have been talking about swarming the football as
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 16: one of.
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 7: The key things the coach has allowed them to do.
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 16: So I just want to why this is so important
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 16: for you to do your defensive identity about that? Well,
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 16: the athletes in this league are really good and every
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 16: team has them, and sometimes people miss tackles or their
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 16: space plays. You know, sometimes teams try to create numbers
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 16: out on a perimeter. For example, the second playing the game,
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 16: maybe I don't know.
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 7: First playing the game, I guess I don't know. Maybe
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 7: a second I can't remember.
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 16: And Milt's running out there and the linebackers are triggering
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 16: and Milt's running down the line, and you know, we
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 16: talk about making them earn it. You know, that's a
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 16: defensive lineman hit a running back for a two yard game.
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 16: So I would say that they earned all those two
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 16: yards last week, and that'll be critical this week. You've
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 16: seen different players, whether that's Herald Milt, Christian Tonga, kc.
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 16: All those guys that play along the front, you know,
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 16: going to extend and help us out on the perimeter
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 16: because you know sometimes.
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 7: Those those are tough tackles.
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 16: So that that's what we want to That's how we
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 16: want to play defense. And it starts with that, and
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 16: then we look at the technique, and then we look
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 16: at the scheme.
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 6: Like how much is the how much is the physical statement?
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 2: Team started to creep to the fourth front of your mind.
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 16: Well, I mean I think a little bit, you know,
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 16: I think a little bit. I think it has to
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 16: We just have to get them ready. We have to
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 16: get them energized to be able to match Tampa's energy
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 16: coming off a few days off. And I'm confident that
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 16: by the time Sundays here, we'll be able to do
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 16: that sort of managing.
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 3: As you've mentioned a couple of times, Bettery, guys who
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 3: have had ten weeks in a World plus training camp
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  Speaker 3: show a week next week? Is this more and more measuring?
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 2: Along with your training Stamp nutrition staff, with these guys team.
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 16: We've had extensive talks about what we think each guy
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 16: needs and what we think the team needs, so we'll
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 16: try to do that.
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 7: But that's, you know, fairly accurate. Chursey wanted this one.
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 1: What you guys about life, good.
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  Speaker 7: Size, you know, good size.
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  Speaker 16: I think he's got showing the ability to learn quickly,
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 16: you know. I think that that was something that's important
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 16: at this time of the year, being able to get
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 16: a guy in here, you know that can that can
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 16: help us at multiple spots if something happens, you know,
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 16: start on a practice squad and then everybody has to
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 16: prepare like a starter.
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  Speaker 4: He had like this new surgery.
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  Speaker 4: But so he had the surgery immediately, like within twenty
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  Speaker 2: Is the email address. Deuce is off to the locker room,
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  Speaker 2: so he'll be back. Evan is also in the locker room,
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 2: but he's going to go to practice after so he
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  Speaker 2: So let's get back to these emails here, Robert writes
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 2: in uh, he says, I agree with Fred. The odds
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  Speaker 2: are disrespectful. The bucks best wins are the Seahawks. They
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  Speaker 2: didn't really dominate anybody this year. If we all agree
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 2: these two teams are comparable, no reason the Bucks should
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 2: be minus three. That's strange. Also, who's saying the Pats
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 2: have had no major injuries? We miss Gonzo for three games, now,
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 2: Remandre Gibson and our number one receiver is injured two.
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  Speaker 3: I mean it's starting to pile up. Wait a minute,
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 3: starting to pile up. Wait a minute, yep, you miss
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  Speaker 3: Gonzo for three games.
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  Speaker 2: Yep.
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  Speaker 3: None of those others qualify as major injuries, Like missing
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 3: Mermandra Stevenson for a game is not a major injury.
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 3: Miss Antonio, give your third running back you lost for
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 3: the season. He had a touchdown on a kick off
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 3: your third string running back. That doesn't qualify as a
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 3: major injury. And Kishon Booty is not your number one receiver.
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 2: No, dis is your number one receiver.
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 3: But and he, by the way, missed half a game.
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 3: I mean Booty was on a Pro Bowl, you know, right, Sorry,
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 3: I would say that the Patriots received a lot of
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 3: respect and only the bare minimum of a home underdog,
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 3: you know, the home favorite for the Tampa Bay. Yeah,
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 3: that's all okay, Like if the Patriots were underdogs by
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 3: like eight points, I could totally understand what you're talking about,
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  Speaker 3: Like what has Tampa done that's so much better than
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 3: what the Patriots have done that you're giving them all
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 3: this respect. They didn't.
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 2: It's two and a half points.
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 3: I think it's kind of like the bare minimum for
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 3: a home a good home team at you know, being
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 3: favorite went back up to three, went back down to
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 3: two and a half and a half now according to
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 3: Matt and the booth, he said it was back down
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 3: to two and a half.
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 2: So it's currently at two and a half.
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 3: So if you want to just keep like, does it
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 3: they were I think if they were healthy it would
• 1:24:33
  Speaker 3: be more, but they would be better. Respect, they would
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 3: be better if they were healthy. They'd be the better
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 3: team if they were healthy. I think it's pretty even
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 3: and I think the line shows.
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 2: That Tony in Michigan says people need a reality check.
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 2: He says that in all caps the whole off season,
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 2: I do.
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  Speaker 3: Like these when they tell us how we're not looking
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 3: at it properly.
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 2: Okay, the whole off season we discussed how the team
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 2: still needed lots of building blocks and had a lot
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 2: of gaps to fill. We are now out playing our
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 2: talent level, and people want to mortgage the future for
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 2: divisional round playoff exit. Enjoy the fact that the team
• 1:25:08
  Speaker 2: is playing well with what's here, hope they can continue
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 2: to play well, and recognize that there is still building
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 2: to be done. Great teams aren't built at the trade
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 2: deadline and very rarely is a true impact player available.
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 2: If you want depth pieces, you can still look at
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 2: other practice squads to poach. I'm glad the team didn't
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 2: part with valuable assets for a backup linebacker or give
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 2: up a first for Hendrickson.
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 3: So well, the first for Hendrickson was not an option.
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 3: But what what what mortgage of the future was there?
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 2: What?
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 3: What move do you think that they didn't do?
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 1: What was why?
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 2: Well, that's the thing. It's everyone thinks it's an either or.
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 3: Right Now, that's that's all I'm saying. No one's suggesting
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 3: they should have given two first round picks for Sauce Gardner.
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 3: Nobody in New England wants that. No one wanted it,
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 3: No one wants it, no one thinks that they should
• 1:25:54
  Speaker 3: have done it. They didn't need a cornerback that badly
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 3: to make a move like that. But you're telling me
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 3: that trading a sixth round pick for you know, you know,
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 3: how about even like one of those pick swaps. You know,
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 3: we'll trade a sixth and you give us a seventh
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 3: for Jerome Ford, that's mortgaging the future just to get
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 3: another NFL caliber running back in. And I'm not saying
• 1:26:19
  Speaker 3: that that is the difference, but that's those are the
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 3: kinds of moves we're talking about. We're not talking about
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 3: Quinn Williams and Sauce Gardner. Patriots have two really good
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 3: defensive tackles and Christian Barmore and Milton Williams. They didn't
• 1:26:31
  Speaker 3: need quinnin w I mean, I would always take Quinn
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 3: and Williams, don't get me wrong, but they didn't necessarily
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 3: need him. We're not looking at trading multiple first round
• 1:26:39
  Speaker 3: picks to make the team better.
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 2: Eric in Maine, I don't understand why we got rid
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 2: of key On White and Dugger then didn't pick up
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 2: a pass rusher or running back. What's your thoughts on this.
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 2: We have a couple injuries and we're done. I think
• 1:26:51
  Speaker 2: Fred has this one.
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 3: I think that they were trying, yeah and I for
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 3: whatever reason, it didn't work out.
• 1:26:57
  Speaker 2: And I think that's trade with us.
• 1:26:58
  Speaker 3: The Tennessee thing, I think makes sense. Amy Adam Strunk
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 3: did not want to trade with Mike Rabel. She's still
• 1:27:05
  Speaker 3: mad at him for whatever reason. I think that's bad
• 1:27:07
  Speaker 3: business on her part. I think if they had a deal,
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 3: a potential deal with the Patriots that made sense for
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 3: the Titans, they should have been interested in it. But
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 3: she felt differently, right, I mean, according to some scuttle butt,
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 3: nobody's really reporting that, but people are alluding to it.
• 1:27:24
  Speaker 3: So you know how I always feel with those things.
• 1:27:26
  Speaker 3: When they's smoke is usually fire. I'll bet you there's
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 3: some accuracy to that.
• 1:27:30
  Speaker 2: Christ and Virginia. Firstly, congratulations to Marine for being the
• 1:27:34
  Speaker 2: biggest climber in the picks pool last week.
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 3: Oh I didn't know, good job MARINEES know that myself.
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 2: A question for the team after the trades by the Jets,
• 1:27:44
  Speaker 2: including Sauce to the Colts. Does this make any significant
• 1:27:47
  Speaker 2: difference to our chances of winning either the division or
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 2: the conference. I think it makes the two Jets games
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 2: a little bit.
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 3: Easier, probably, But you weren't losing those games. You're just not, Paul.
• 1:27:59
  Speaker 2: It's just hard to win every game in your division.
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  Speaker 3: They don't have to. They don't have to beat the
• 1:28:04
  Speaker 3: Jets twice. You don't have to win every game in
• 1:28:06
  Speaker 3: your division.
• 1:28:06
  Speaker 2: No, but you're gonna Are you gonna beat the Bills twice?
• 1:28:09
  Speaker 3: I don't think so. Okay, so you don't have to
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 3: win every game in your division, but you know that's
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 3: not right there.
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 2: I say there's gonna be losses against AFC East teams.
• 1:28:18
  Speaker 3: Yeah, the Bills they're in AFC, so you think they're
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 3: gonna go five and one probably.
• 1:28:23
  Speaker 2: I just think it's hard to do that. I don't.
• 1:28:26
  Speaker 3: I don't think it's hard to be one in seventeens.
• 1:28:27
  Speaker 2: It's hard to do When Tom Brady was on the team.
• 1:28:29
  Speaker 3: No, it wasn't. That's why they beat him. They beat
• 1:28:32
  Speaker 3: both the Jets and the Bills like thirty years in
• 1:28:34
  Speaker 3: a row. But I mean, it wasn't hard for them. Look,
• 1:28:36
  Speaker 3: it's not gonna be hard.
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 2: In the division. There was like one year I think
• 1:28:39
  Speaker 2: they won six and oh.
• 1:28:40
  Speaker 3: I'm not suggesting six and oh, Fred, I'll grant you
• 1:28:43
  Speaker 3: a loss to Buffalo, but it's not hard to beat
• 1:28:46
  Speaker 3: a one in seventeen. They should be able to do that.
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 2: Division it makes it a little easier. Division games are tricky.
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 3: And I'll tell you what, I'm a lost.
• 1:28:55
  Speaker 2: Teams lose to teams lose to It just happens.
• 1:28:59
  Speaker 3: I'll tell you what I'm a little worried about. If
• 1:29:01
  Speaker 3: you listen, feel for the league, go ahead. I'm a
• 1:29:04
  Speaker 3: little worried that the head coach and we haven't really
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 3: alluded to a lot of what Mike Rabel had to say.
• 1:29:09
  Speaker 3: You guys just heard him kind of make it a
• 1:29:12
  Speaker 3: lot of mention the last week, week and a half,
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 3: two weeks of the grind and you know ten weeks
• 1:29:19
  Speaker 3: in a row now, well, week eleven is a short weeks.
• 1:29:23
  Speaker 3: On a Thursday night, I'm a little worried about that.
• 1:29:25
  Speaker 3: Based on the way that Mike is sounding talking about
• 1:29:28
  Speaker 3: the team. What is the number one thing that worries
• 1:29:30
  Speaker 3: you about the roster right now? Most people would say depth.
• 1:29:33
  Speaker 3: So if you're a little short on depth, and now
• 1:29:36
  Speaker 3: you're starting to get a little banged up, and oh,
• 1:29:38
  Speaker 3: by the way, you played ten games in a row,
• 1:29:40
  Speaker 3: eleven games in a row, Thursday night game, now, I
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 3: just don't think the Jets are good enough to do it. No,
• 1:29:46
  Speaker 3: but that would worry me a little bit, given that Paul.
• 1:29:49
  Speaker 3: Division game on a Thursday night would worry me a
• 1:29:51
  Speaker 3: little bit. Paul, And it's a little easier without Sauce
• 1:29:54
  Speaker 3: Gardner and quinnin Williams.
• 1:29:55
  Speaker 2: Could this Tampa game be a scheduled loss?
• 1:29:59
  Speaker 3: No, no, no, I give the Patriots every I mean,
• 1:30:03
  Speaker 3: maybe I'm overestimating.
• 1:30:04
  Speaker 2: Important this game or the Jets game.
• 1:30:08
  Speaker 3: In my opinion, this game by a lot. Why because
• 1:30:11
  Speaker 3: they're good. You got to show everybody that you can
• 1:30:14
  Speaker 3: beat a good team.
• 1:30:14
  Speaker 2: But in terms of chances to win the division.
• 1:30:17
  Speaker 3: It's irrelevant.
• 1:30:19
  Speaker 2: Same so never does division record ye come into.
• 1:30:22
  Speaker 3: Play, but you'll have to beat Buffalo to have a
• 1:30:25
  Speaker 3: better division record. Well, and you'll have the tiebreaker over Buffalo.
• 1:30:28
  Speaker 3: You don't have to worry about division records.
• 1:30:29
  Speaker 2: I think the Jet you know, I know that Jets
• 1:30:34
  Speaker 2: are half as good as Tampa Bay. But it could
• 1:30:37
  Speaker 2: be more important.
• 1:30:38
  Speaker 3: I know what you're saying in terms of tiebreakers and
• 1:30:40
  Speaker 3: stuff like that. I'm talking about the team trying to
• 1:30:42
  Speaker 3: be as good as the team can be. I think
• 1:30:44
  Speaker 3: it would be much better for the team to show that,
• 1:30:48
  Speaker 3: you know what, they were right about us. We can't
• 1:30:50
  Speaker 3: when we played the next good team, like you were
• 1:30:53
  Speaker 3: like another opportunity. No, this is a opportunity. They haven't
• 1:30:55
  Speaker 3: really had any. They only had one and they passed
• 1:30:58
  Speaker 3: that one with flying was in Buffalo. All right, so
• 1:31:01
  Speaker 3: now go down to Tampa and do it again.
• 1:31:04
  Speaker 2: Ah, this is a tough one, Paul. It's a stump
• 1:31:07
  Speaker 2: Paul trivia.
• 1:31:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah, nice, Mike says he's got a good one for
• 1:31:10
  Speaker 3: me tomorrow.
• 1:31:10
  Speaker 2: It's less trivia. But anyway, with the recent trades, there
• 1:31:13
  Speaker 2: are now only ten players still with the team that
• 1:31:17
  Speaker 2: were drafted by Bill Belichick. Can you name them?
• 1:31:22
  Speaker 3: The Patriots have ten players that were drafted by Belichick.
• 1:31:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:31:27
  Speaker 3: Uh, Kayshan Boudi, Di Mario Douglas, Micah Wenture, Marcus Jones, four, uh,
• 1:31:40
  Speaker 3: Ramondre Stevenson. One was oh a Christian Gonzalez six.
• 1:31:54
  Speaker 2: One was supposedly on the trade block.
• 1:31:57
  Speaker 3: Oh, Anthony Jennings. Seven that the one you were just talking.
• 1:32:00
  Speaker 2: Yep, there's ten.
• 1:32:02
  Speaker 3: Huh yeah, mmmm uh, that's seven. I don't want to
• 1:32:10
  Speaker 3: waste a mop poo.
• 1:32:11
  Speaker 2: Okay, barringer, all right, Uh that's eight and nine you
• 1:32:19
  Speaker 2: got did you say, Marcus Jones?
• 1:32:23
  Speaker 3: Yes?
• 1:32:23
  Speaker 7: Yeah?
• 1:32:25
  Speaker 2: What did he miss? One? Two, three, four, five, six,
• 1:32:29
  Speaker 2: seven eight? Barringer? Barber? You said you.
• 1:32:32
  Speaker 3: Said I'd never said bar You never said I never
• 1:32:34
  Speaker 3: said barber. Oh geez, yeah, okay, I never said barbore.
• 1:32:37
  Speaker 3: That's the other one.
• 1:32:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah, A wrong answer would have been Brendan's schooler. He
• 1:32:41
  Speaker 2: was signed as an undrafted free agent, not drafted.
• 1:32:44
  Speaker 3: A lot of a lot of those, right, Yeah, del
• 1:32:46
  Speaker 3: Pettis I think was one of those. Yep, was he was?
• 1:32:51
  Speaker 3: He last year? He might have been Noo.
• 1:32:54
  Speaker 2: Barton Poland says, I might be in the minority. But
• 1:32:58
  Speaker 2: I'm totally fine with how our trade deadline went. If
• 1:33:01
  Speaker 2: the right deals weren't there at the reasonable prices, I'm
• 1:33:03
  Speaker 2: glad we didn't overspend. Paul mentioned that the Commanders didn't
• 1:33:07
  Speaker 2: mortgage their future, but they literally traded two thirds of
• 1:33:10
  Speaker 2: fourth a fifth the sixth In a twenty twenty six
• 1:33:12
  Speaker 2: second that's not exactly smart resource management. And they're paying
• 1:33:16
  Speaker 2: for it now ironically, and Daniel's injury might actually end
• 1:33:19
  Speaker 2: up helping them.
• 1:33:20
  Speaker 3: They're they're not paying for it. They have the second
• 1:33:22
  Speaker 3: most cap space in football behind you. Well, that's that's
• 1:33:27
  Speaker 3: so that's not mortgage in your future. That's my point.
• 1:33:29
  Speaker 3: You have plenty of opportunities to build your team. Of course,
• 1:33:32
  Speaker 3: I wouldn't have complained if we made a big move.
• 1:33:34
  Speaker 3: And actually that's not why you guys like to do it.
• 1:33:36
  Speaker 3: You just automatically say it's the right thing to do.
• 1:33:40
  Speaker 2: I'd have liked to added a depth edition, but the
• 1:33:42
  Speaker 2: biggest sellers were never going to trade with us anyway.
• 1:33:45
  Speaker 2: In addition, plenty of contenders did absolutely nothing. And let's
• 1:33:49
  Speaker 2: not act like teams were snatching away players that our
• 1:33:52
  Speaker 2: positions of need. If almost none of those realistic depth
• 1:33:55
  Speaker 2: targets moved elsewhere, it probably means that asking prices were
• 1:33:59
  Speaker 2: just too steep.
• 1:34:01
  Speaker 3: So do you think that the Patriots roster is as
• 1:34:03
  Speaker 3: good as like everybody else's? That all the contenders like
• 1:34:08
  Speaker 3: Kansas City, Buffalo, So do you think maybe they had
• 1:34:11
  Speaker 3: less of an need? Yeah, and again I'm not I
• 1:34:16
  Speaker 3: started the whole show by saying this, and I stay
• 1:34:19
  Speaker 3: with it. I am not upset in any way, shape
• 1:34:23
  Speaker 3: or form that the Patriots didn't I don't think that
• 1:34:24
  Speaker 3: the trade deadline is necessarily a huge avenue to do this,
• 1:34:29
  Speaker 3: Like you know, put the whole put you over the
• 1:34:32
  Speaker 3: top kind of argument. Now you can make an argument
• 1:34:34
  Speaker 3: the Colts made that kind of a swing. They acquired
• 1:34:37
  Speaker 3: a guy they badly needed because of their situation in
• 1:34:40
  Speaker 3: the secondary was probably going to be their undoing if
• 1:34:44
  Speaker 3: they didn't make a significant move. But I'm not upset
• 1:34:48
  Speaker 3: that the Patriots didn't make a move. But I'm just
• 1:34:50
  Speaker 3: glad that Bart, because that was a good balanced email
• 1:34:54
  Speaker 3: because at least he admits if the Patriots had traded
• 1:34:57
  Speaker 3: for Draymont Jones, you said that they were they they
• 1:35:00
  Speaker 3: inquired about. If the Patriots had traded, say, I don't know,
• 1:35:04
  Speaker 3: a fourth round pick for Draymond Jones, No, I would
• 1:35:06
  Speaker 3: be sitting here saying I can't believe that they mortgaged
• 1:35:08
  Speaker 3: their future and did this. You'd be excited that they
• 1:35:10
  Speaker 3: added at a position that you think that they need
• 1:35:13
  Speaker 3: help at, right right. So just that's why I like
• 1:35:17
  Speaker 3: the way Bart said it. He was honest they didn't
• 1:35:20
  Speaker 3: do anything. He's okay with it. And if they had
• 1:35:22
  Speaker 3: done something, he would have been okay with that too.
• 1:35:24
  Speaker 3: That's honesty. I appreciate that.
• 1:35:28
  Speaker 2: Eldred in North Carolina is on the line. What's up, Eldred?
• 1:35:35
  Speaker 3: Rashid Shaheed online two?
• 1:35:36
  Speaker 2: What's up, hey, Paul?
• 1:35:40
  Speaker 11: Yes, sir, would you a little bit? I wish that
• 1:35:44
  Speaker 11: he didn't get some depth like a corner or linebacker
• 1:35:48
  Speaker 11: or maybe you know somewhere that like he just said,
• 1:35:52
  Speaker 11: I were about to live about the ten weeks grind
• 1:35:54
  Speaker 11: and what it is, but they didn't, so I just got.
• 1:35:57
  Speaker 7: To go with it.
• 1:35:58
  Speaker 11: But there was a report out there from a past
• 1:36:01
  Speaker 11: cap and lock On Patriots about no, well, well whatever
• 1:36:11
  Speaker 11: the lady from Tennessee did tell everybody did not trade
• 1:36:14
  Speaker 11: with Gray.
• 1:36:15
  Speaker 3: Right, Yes, I told you, I said that everybody. There
• 1:36:18
  Speaker 3: are a lot of people who have alluded to it.
• 1:36:19
  Speaker 3: No one's reporting it, but there has been a lot
• 1:36:21
  Speaker 3: of allusions to the fact that the Titans were unwilling
• 1:36:24
  Speaker 3: to trade with the Patriots, right because of Amy Adamson.
• 1:36:27
  Speaker 11: A part of them guys that they're they're reporting it.
• 1:36:29
  Speaker 3: Yeah, No, I mean I maybe not do what you
• 1:36:32
  Speaker 3: call but I read it originated not reporting it.
• 1:36:36
  Speaker 8: Okay, my question is this This was word mean the
• 1:36:39
  Speaker 8: most by Tampa Bay defense. Okay, it's our line, missus
• 1:36:45
  Speaker 8: stunt Drake speeding up.
• 1:36:49
  Speaker 11: Drake look like like like that rookie whatever that was
• 1:36:52
  Speaker 11: worried me. And then our defense covering Abukah and everybody else.
• 1:36:57
  Speaker 8: And take it off the air and tell me how
• 1:37:00
  Speaker 8: you think we might be able to pick and I'll
• 1:37:03
  Speaker 8: take it from there.
• 1:37:04
  Speaker 3: Now, it's a concern. Thanks Eldred, Thanks he it's a concern.
• 1:37:08
  Speaker 3: I mean, Tampa's got fifteen sacks in their last three games.
• 1:37:10
  Speaker 3: The Patriots have allowed twelve sacks in their last two.
• 1:37:14
  Speaker 3: I don't think all of those sacks are on the
• 1:37:16
  Speaker 3: Patriots offensive line, but I think more of them than
• 1:37:18
  Speaker 3: have been credited. I think everybody it's now open season
• 1:37:21
  Speaker 3: on Drake May takes too many sacks. It's his fault.
• 1:37:25
  Speaker 3: I think the reason that Drake May takes all those
• 1:37:27
  Speaker 3: sacks is because he's making all these plays. That's carrying
• 1:37:30
  Speaker 3: your offense. And I think if you ask him to just,
• 1:37:33
  Speaker 3: you know, not do that anymore, I think your offense
• 1:37:35
  Speaker 3: is going to take a hit.
• 1:37:35
  Speaker 2: I agree Curtis and Saint Louis. Personally, I believe the
• 1:37:40
  Speaker 2: Patriots will definitely make the playoffs this year. Not sure
• 1:37:43
  Speaker 2: if you guys agree or not.
• 1:37:44
  Speaker 3: Larger I strongly agree.
• 1:37:46
  Speaker 2: My larger question is how likely is it that they
• 1:37:48
  Speaker 2: win the division? I charted out the remainder of the
• 1:37:50
  Speaker 2: season for both Bills and Patriots, my predictions on their
• 1:37:53
  Speaker 2: win lost totals. Ultimately, I have the Patriots falling short
• 1:37:58
  Speaker 2: to Buffalo by one game. Me too, us not taking
• 1:38:00
  Speaker 2: the division this year. Wanted your thoughts and he's got
• 1:38:03
  Speaker 2: it laid out if you're interested. But he's got the
• 1:38:05
  Speaker 2: Patriots ending the season at twelve and five in Buffalo
• 1:38:08
  Speaker 2: at thirteen and four.
• 1:38:09
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think the Patriots could go eleven and six,
• 1:38:12
  Speaker 3: But that's me. That's my low water mark, eleven and
• 1:38:15
  Speaker 3: six because I always think the Fred kirsch theory. As
• 1:38:18
  Speaker 3: much as I bicker with you, the Fred Kirscht theory
• 1:38:20
  Speaker 3: is accurate. You always lose a game you don't expect
• 1:38:22
  Speaker 3: to lose, right.
• 1:38:22
  Speaker 2: Well, if they go four and four the rest of
• 1:38:24
  Speaker 2: the way, they're eleven and six, right.
• 1:38:25
  Speaker 3: But I just looked at it as like people, probably
• 1:38:28
  Speaker 3: I'm assuming he has the win loss there. I assuming
• 1:38:30
  Speaker 3: he has Buffalo and Baltimore's losses.
• 1:38:32
  Speaker 2: He's got Tampa Bay as a loss, he's got Buffalo
• 1:38:35
  Speaker 2: as a loss, and he's got Baltimore as a loss.
• 1:38:37
  Speaker 3: Okay, so those are the only three losses he has.
• 1:38:39
  Speaker 2: But what does that.
• 1:38:40
  Speaker 1: Tell you, though?
• 1:38:40
  Speaker 2: Are you happy about that?
• 1:38:41
  Speaker 3: Because see, I would rather look like I'd rather lose
• 1:38:44
  Speaker 3: to the Jets. This is what I'm saying to you. Like,
• 1:38:46
  Speaker 3: I think it tells you more of your capability. But whatever,
• 1:38:49
  Speaker 3: when I think the Fred Kirsch theory of you always
• 1:38:52
  Speaker 3: lose a game, you don't expect to lose, right, you know?
• 1:38:55
  Speaker 3: And you know, like the Giants Monday night game, to
• 1:38:58
  Speaker 3: me is probably not a person in New England and
• 1:39:00
  Speaker 3: thinks there's any chance the Patriots lose that game. I
• 1:39:02
  Speaker 3: think that will be a dogfight.
• 1:39:03
  Speaker 2: You're looking ahead to the bye.
• 1:39:04
  Speaker 3: I think the Giants have played reasonably well since Jackson
• 1:39:07
  Speaker 3: Dard has been their quarterback. I think they've had a
• 1:39:09
  Speaker 3: chance and most of the games that he's played, so
• 1:39:11
  Speaker 3: I think they'll have a chance that And listen, Cincinnati
• 1:39:14
  Speaker 3: is putting probably going to give you a shootout. You
• 1:39:17
  Speaker 3: haven't been in one of those yet. How do you
• 1:39:18
  Speaker 3: react to him? So I'm telling you, this is eleven
• 1:39:21
  Speaker 3: and six to me. But that's that's it. Fred I
• 1:39:23
  Speaker 3: don't see worse than eleven and six, and I just
• 1:39:26
  Speaker 3: have more faith that Buffalo has been here and done
• 1:39:29
  Speaker 3: this before and they'll find a way. They have a
• 1:39:31
  Speaker 3: handful of difficult games still. I think they play I
• 1:39:33
  Speaker 3: think they played the Eagles right who buff Buffalo, they
• 1:39:39
  Speaker 3: have their their I think they have a handful of
• 1:39:41
  Speaker 3: difficult games left.
• 1:39:42
  Speaker 2: They've got Miami, have Tampa, They've got Tampa Bay after that,
• 1:39:45
  Speaker 2: then they have Houston.
• 1:39:46
  Speaker 3: Houston will be a tough game, that's a good defense,
• 1:39:49
  Speaker 3: and they should be Cincinnati shootout than us, Cleveland, Philadelphia
• 1:39:55
  Speaker 3: and the Jets. So they have a handful of difficult games.
• 1:39:58
  Speaker 3: But I think that they have been in this situation
• 1:40:01
  Speaker 3: before and they sort of know how to handle it
• 1:40:03
  Speaker 3: a little bit more. But that doesn't mean that it's
• 1:40:08
  Speaker 3: a lot And I think it could come down to
• 1:40:10
  Speaker 3: just the one game. If if the Patriots can hold
• 1:40:14
  Speaker 3: Serve at home and beat Buffalo, then Buffalo has to
• 1:40:16
  Speaker 3: finish with a better record than you to win the division.
• 1:40:19
  Speaker 3: Then that tiebreaker comes into play. The tiebreaker right now
• 1:40:21
  Speaker 3: doesn't matter because they have to play again. But if
• 1:40:25
  Speaker 3: the Patriots were to win twice, that takes the tiebreaker.
• 1:40:29
  Speaker 3: You know what I mean? Yep, that could That's I
• 1:40:31
  Speaker 3: think that game is going to ultimately decide things.
• 1:40:36
  Speaker 2: Okay, let's see, let's go back to the phones, Kevin.
• 1:40:43
  Speaker 2: Kevin's in San Francisco.
• 1:40:44
  Speaker 9: Hey, Kevin, Hey, guys, how are we doing?
• 1:40:48
  Speaker 2: Hey?
• 1:40:49
  Speaker 20: Just a couple of comments. I'm not overly upset that
• 1:40:53
  Speaker 20: they didn't make any moves and mortgage the future, as
• 1:40:57
  Speaker 20: they say, but I do think that letting kee On
• 1:41:00
  Speaker 20: White and Doug or go without knowing that you can
• 1:41:04
  Speaker 20: make feels is a failure at the front office level.
• 1:41:08
  Speaker 2: Look say that again, Kevin.
• 1:41:12
  Speaker 20: I think it's a failure at the front office that
• 1:41:14
  Speaker 20: you let two pieces that are at least back up
• 1:41:16
  Speaker 20: in casey of injury and you don't have a meeting
• 1:41:19
  Speaker 20: with which to replace them, especially on the on the
• 1:41:22
  Speaker 20: defensive end.
• 1:41:23
  Speaker 9: Front, I think that's a failure.
• 1:41:26
  Speaker 20: So anyway, but moving beyond that, look the teams. The
• 1:41:30
  Speaker 20: team's overachieving this year. I'm going to enjoy it and
• 1:41:33
  Speaker 20: see what happens. But in reality, I think this team's
• 1:41:38
  Speaker 20: going to be at best nine to eight next year
• 1:41:40
  Speaker 20: because they've just got so many holes. So look, I'm
• 1:41:43
  Speaker 20: enjoying it ride the waves. But you know, I'm not necessarility.
• 1:41:46
  Speaker 20: I'm not so bullish on the front office as far
• 1:41:49
  Speaker 20: as how they address this.
• 1:41:51
  Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, it's fair.
• 1:41:54
  Speaker 3: I mean, I I'm just not as I'm just not
• 1:41:57
  Speaker 3: upset about it. I really maybe I sound like playing
• 1:42:01
  Speaker 3: your side of the street, and I'm just like, you know,
• 1:42:03
  Speaker 3: I'm happy no matter what. But I just didn't see
• 1:42:06
  Speaker 3: a lot of difference making opportunities. I'm sure there was
• 1:42:09
  Speaker 3: a death piece or two that they could have added,
• 1:42:11
  Speaker 3: but how much better would those options have been than
• 1:42:13
  Speaker 3: what you have in your system already?
• 1:42:15
  Speaker 2: What do you think about his assertion that it was
• 1:42:18
  Speaker 2: a failure of the front office to not have replacements
• 1:42:21
  Speaker 2: ready for Keon White and Kyle Duggar. I mean, Douck,
• 1:42:26
  Speaker 2: you think they did?
• 1:42:27
  Speaker 3: I think they do. Yeah, I think they They took
• 1:42:29
  Speaker 3: those guys jobs away from them.
• 1:42:30
  Speaker 2: Right, Woodson was playing ahead of Dugger, right, I.
• 1:42:34
  Speaker 3: Mean Dougeran if Jalen Hawkins didn't get hurt, Douger would
• 1:42:38
  Speaker 3: have continued to play like less than five snaps a game. Yeah,
• 1:42:41
  Speaker 3: he wouldn't have played. He had those two games where
• 1:42:43
  Speaker 3: he played the whole game because he was so like,
• 1:42:46
  Speaker 3: you're just looking at it as another guy gets hurt again.
• 1:42:51
  Speaker 3: It's fair. His criticism is fair. I'm not beating up
• 1:42:54
  Speaker 3: on that take. Just yeah, they're missing a third safety,
• 1:42:58
  Speaker 3: They're missing a you know, a throw to edge rusher.
• 1:43:03
  Speaker 3: There's a lot of teams that are missing depth pieces,
• 1:43:06
  Speaker 3: you know.
• 1:43:07
  Speaker 2: Yep. Let's see Gavin Wright saying, why didn't they at
• 1:43:12
  Speaker 2: least get a safety or linebacker to help manage the
• 1:43:15
  Speaker 2: middle of the field, as this is clearly one huge
• 1:43:18
  Speaker 2: weakness of the team. Is there anything they can do
• 1:43:20
  Speaker 2: to limit this with any of the guys they have.
• 1:43:23
  Speaker 2: I'm very fussy and stressed every game due to this challenge.
• 1:43:26
  Speaker 2: In addition to no pass rush. According to Evan, they
• 1:43:30
  Speaker 2: do have a pass rush.
• 1:43:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think they have a great pass rush.
• 1:43:33
  Speaker 3: I will say that, and I understand, Like, so this
• 1:43:36
  Speaker 3: is like, this is my problem with like the inundation,
• 1:43:40
  Speaker 3: with all these numbers. You watch the game and you
• 1:43:43
  Speaker 3: do not see opposing quarterbacks being affected all that often
• 1:43:47
  Speaker 3: by the Patriots, do you?
• 1:43:49
  Speaker 7: No?
• 1:43:49
  Speaker 2: I agree, I agree.
• 1:43:51
  Speaker 3: And I'm not fixated on the sack total. I'm just
• 1:43:55
  Speaker 3: talking about how many times the quarterback is just forced
• 1:43:57
  Speaker 3: to dump it off because he's under pressure. I don't
• 1:44:00
  Speaker 3: see that happen a lot. I mean, I think that
• 1:44:05
  Speaker 3: it's telling that their two best pass rushers per se
• 1:44:09
  Speaker 3: are defensive tackles.
• 1:44:11
  Speaker 2: Yep.
• 1:44:11
  Speaker 3: Like they're the guys to me that win their battles
• 1:44:13
  Speaker 3: more often than not. Chase On has been active, and
• 1:44:16
  Speaker 3: he's been good, but they don't have elite pressure coming
• 1:44:20
  Speaker 3: off the edge.
• 1:44:21
  Speaker 2: Sam and Easton writes and I wrote in last week
• 1:44:23
  Speaker 2: about the weather impacting May's passing ability. Having been at
• 1:44:26
  Speaker 2: the game, I can tell you the win was much
• 1:44:28
  Speaker 2: more of a factor than those at home might think.
• 1:44:31
  Speaker 2: From our bird's eye view in the upper two hundreds,
• 1:44:34
  Speaker 2: it looked like some of those incomplete deep passes were
• 1:44:36
  Speaker 2: taken by the wind. I think it's more of a
• 1:44:39
  Speaker 2: topic of discussion than people are letting on. I'm concerned
• 1:44:42
  Speaker 2: we might lose some of the elite deep passing element
• 1:44:45
  Speaker 2: of May's game down the stretch, at least for the
• 1:44:48
  Speaker 2: home games. With five to seven mile per hour wins
• 1:44:51
  Speaker 2: in eighty three degree weather forecasting for Sunday's game at Tampa,
• 1:44:54
  Speaker 2: I'm predicting a bounce back deep ball passing performance by Drake.
• 1:44:58
  Speaker 2: I'm willing to bet he as another subpar game by
• 1:45:00
  Speaker 2: his standards on Thursday Night football against the Jets in
• 1:45:04
  Speaker 2: the swirling Foxborough night winds thirtieth degree early forecast. Also,
• 1:45:09
  Speaker 2: do we want to see Drake put on the long sleeves? Now?
• 1:45:12
  Speaker 2: I know it's a mental thing for players, but I
• 1:45:14
  Speaker 2: want to see him staying warm and unbothered like Brady
• 1:45:17
  Speaker 2: always did.
• 1:45:19
  Speaker 3: Yeah. I don't know about how comfortable he is. Whatever
• 1:45:22
  Speaker 3: he wants to do to be comfortable is fine. I
• 1:45:25
  Speaker 3: did not see the inaccurate deep passes that he's talking
• 1:45:27
  Speaker 3: about on Sunday. I saw him be skittish in the
• 1:45:30
  Speaker 3: pocket in the second half after getting stripsacked. I didn't
• 1:45:34
  Speaker 3: see his accuracy. Go, I saw his decision making go,
• 1:45:38
  Speaker 3: that's just me. I didn't see And you know, I
• 1:45:41
  Speaker 3: saw him drop a beautiful pass twenty yards downfield to
• 1:45:44
  Speaker 3: Tomio Douglas. I saw him with an absolute dime to
• 1:45:49
  Speaker 3: Stefan Diggs in the fourth quarter on a deep ball.
• 1:45:52
  Speaker 3: So I didn't see this inaccuracy caused by the wind
• 1:45:55
  Speaker 3: on Sunday. I think his arm is largely immune to
• 1:45:58
  Speaker 3: the wind. I think he has that good of an.
• 1:46:00
  Speaker 2: Is it that windy?
• 1:46:01
  Speaker 3: No, I'm sure he's right. He was probably in the stands.
• 1:46:03
  Speaker 3: It was probably windy er on the field, and we
• 1:46:05
  Speaker 3: knew sitting in the press box that I totally get
• 1:46:08
  Speaker 3: what he's saying. I just didn't see the ball affected
• 1:46:10
  Speaker 3: by the wind. I didn't see it affecting Pennix's throws either.
• 1:46:13
  Speaker 2: What about that extra point kick?
• 1:46:15
  Speaker 3: That was Yeah, I don't think that effect.
• 1:46:17
  Speaker 2: It didn't look like it was just a bad kid.
• 1:46:18
  Speaker 3: It was wide the whole way.
• 1:46:19
  Speaker 2: By the way, were you watching the game? I think
• 1:46:23
  Speaker 2: it was the Cowboys game. I forgot.
• 1:46:27
  Speaker 3: I didn't see any I didn't see any.
• 1:46:30
  Speaker 2: Man. It looked like a bad field goal. You know,
• 1:46:32
  Speaker 2: it was above the uprights, and they said that it
• 1:46:35
  Speaker 2: like if that had hit the upright, it would have
• 1:46:37
  Speaker 2: definitely gone out because it was three quarters of the
• 1:46:40
  Speaker 2: way to the outside of the upright.
• 1:46:42
  Speaker 3: What did the announcers say anything?
• 1:46:44
  Speaker 2: They kind of agreed, like, oh, I thought that was
• 1:46:46
  Speaker 2: not good.
• 1:46:47
  Speaker 3: Who made it? You don't even know which team? Yeah,
• 1:46:51
  Speaker 3: I'm half in a fox it was. I didn't see
• 1:46:53
  Speaker 3: any of the Monday night game this week.
• 1:46:54
  Speaker 2: I was out. Maybe a viewer can help me out.
• 1:47:00
  Speaker 2: I'm trying to think now with Aubrey, I think I
• 1:47:03
  Speaker 2: wasn't the Cowboys. I think it was no.
• 1:47:05
  Speaker 3: Aza guy Chad Ryland. It might have been Ryland, right,
• 1:47:08
  Speaker 3: he's the Cardinals, Stutter.
• 1:47:10
  Speaker 2: Russell and Florida from Arkansas. Is there a chance that
• 1:47:12
  Speaker 2: Rabel and Wolf viewed most of the players that were
• 1:47:15
  Speaker 2: available for trade as possible targets and free agency in
• 1:47:18
  Speaker 2: the off season, potentially getting someone they want plus keeping
• 1:47:21
  Speaker 2: their picks. Does the defense run more? Okay, so that's
• 1:47:25
  Speaker 2: one question, like we're not going to give it. We
• 1:47:28
  Speaker 2: mightn't have in the off season.
• 1:47:29
  Speaker 3: I don't rule anything out, but that doesn't really do
• 1:47:31
  Speaker 3: anything for you. Right, you need them, you know, if
• 1:47:34
  Speaker 3: you need them, you need them now?
• 1:47:35
  Speaker 7: Ye?
• 1:47:36
  Speaker 2: Does the defense run more man coverage and maybe have
• 1:47:39
  Speaker 2: someone spying Mayfield? Did you guys see Pete Carroll fail
• 1:47:43
  Speaker 2: the two point conversion last Sunday? Seems he ran the time.
• 1:47:45
  Speaker 2: He's got three questions in here?
• 1:47:47
  Speaker 3: What was that? I did see the the two point
• 1:47:51
  Speaker 3: conversion got knocked down at the line. Ye, Yes, I
• 1:47:53
  Speaker 3: did see that. I was listening. It was that just
• 1:47:55
  Speaker 3: like a different one, stand alone, different question. Yeah, And
• 1:47:58
  Speaker 3: Pete did have that dumb to look on his face
• 1:48:01
  Speaker 3: that we know all no in love from the.
• 1:48:02
  Speaker 2: Super Bowl says seems he ran the same play from
• 1:48:05
  Speaker 2: super Bowl forty nine and has not learned his lesson.
• 1:48:07
  Speaker 2: So I don't know, honestly, I was listening to it
• 1:48:09
  Speaker 2: on the radio.
• 1:48:12
  Speaker 3: I don't know. Yeah, it kind of.
• 1:48:16
  Speaker 2: I love. I love driving home after a one o'clock
• 1:48:18
  Speaker 2: game because we get to listen to like there's a
• 1:48:22
  Speaker 2: red zone version.
• 1:48:23
  Speaker 3: I do the same thing losers.
• 1:48:26
  Speaker 2: And what they do is when whoever is on offense,
• 1:48:29
  Speaker 2: they go to the that team's home broadcast. You think
• 1:48:32
  Speaker 2: we're Homer's if you think so, lots of Homer. Oh
• 1:48:35
  Speaker 2: my god.
• 1:48:36
  Speaker 3: I've said this in the past. I said this to
• 1:48:38
  Speaker 3: Matt Smith, you know, like I because I've been you know,
• 1:48:41
  Speaker 3: at times I tease and I tease Scott to his face.
• 1:48:44
  Speaker 3: I'm not speaking out of school, you know about that.
• 1:48:46
  Speaker 3: And then I started doing this and I was like,
• 1:48:49
  Speaker 3: I owe you guys an apology, Like it's you guys
• 1:48:52
  Speaker 3: are much more that. There's like three or four that
• 1:48:54
  Speaker 3: are reasonably balanced. Some of the rest of them, it's
• 1:48:56
  Speaker 3: like all first names, it's all we it's all the
• 1:48:59
  Speaker 3: reps killing us. It's like it's like Fred on steroids
• 1:49:03
  Speaker 3: doing the games. It's unbelievable. Tommy Hinsen, I can't tell
• 1:49:06
  Speaker 3: you how much the first name thing bugs me. Yeah,
• 1:49:08
  Speaker 3: you don't like that, Like it's so unprofessional.
• 1:49:12
  Speaker 2: If you're the home team, like I could see like
• 1:49:14
  Speaker 2: the home like Vrabel calling the Mario Douglas pop.
• 1:49:18
  Speaker 3: No, No, that's that's different. And it's also and it's
• 1:49:21
  Speaker 3: also different if a guy has like sort of you know,
• 1:49:24
  Speaker 3: if he just says Calevon Okay, I know who you're
• 1:49:26
  Speaker 3: talking about, right, Okay, But when it's you know, Drew
• 1:49:30
  Speaker 3: and Jim, like I don't know who you're talking about, right,
• 1:49:34
  Speaker 3: And that's like they all just use first names like
• 1:49:36
  Speaker 3: they're all buddies. That to me is what it is.
• 1:49:39
  Speaker 3: We're friends. Like, No, you're the announcer. You're supposed to
• 1:49:43
  Speaker 3: be professional, and you're so right, Like some of those
• 1:49:46
  Speaker 3: broadcasts are unbelievable.
• 1:49:49
  Speaker 2: It's so funny. Do you think Mayfield is good enough
• 1:49:53
  Speaker 2: where you need to spy him? I don't think. I don't.
• 1:49:56
  Speaker 2: I don't look at wasting a resource on that.
• 1:49:58
  Speaker 3: No, not if it affects the defense and any way,
• 1:50:00
  Speaker 3: shape or form. He's a guy who's gonna scramble around
• 1:50:03
  Speaker 3: and he's gonna look to break tackles like it's not.
• 1:50:05
  Speaker 2: About yeah, when he's pressured.
• 1:50:07
  Speaker 3: He's not athletic, he's not fast. No, he's just a gamer.
• 1:50:12
  Speaker 2: Right, I agree, So I wouldn't. I don't think you
• 1:50:15
  Speaker 2: need to spy Baker Mayfield. You need to keep me
• 1:50:18
  Speaker 2: to tackle him.
• 1:50:19
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you need to match his toughness because he's not
• 1:50:21
  Speaker 3: gonna you know, if he needs to get a first down,
• 1:50:24
  Speaker 3: that's important. He's going to try to put his shoulder
• 1:50:26
  Speaker 3: down and knock you over.
• 1:50:27
  Speaker 2: Yep, Mike writes in I feel better about the Patriots
• 1:50:30
  Speaker 2: d on rewatch. They gave up twenty three points, but
• 1:50:34
  Speaker 2: seven were a gimme turnover. Absolutely, there was a real
• 1:50:37
  Speaker 2: TD drive and then the eighty five yard that worries Paul.
• 1:50:40
  Speaker 2: I rewatched this drive, and besides two fourth down conversions
• 1:50:43
  Speaker 2: and a bad penalty, the Patriots also had four passes
• 1:50:46
  Speaker 2: defended that could have been interceptions. Now they have to
• 1:50:48
  Speaker 2: make the play, But the stats say Atlanta was wildly
• 1:50:52
  Speaker 2: lucky to get a touchdown.
• 1:50:54
  Speaker 3: I would disagree with the lucky part, but I do
• 1:50:56
  Speaker 3: think you know, you've forced a couple of fourth downs
• 1:50:59
  Speaker 3: you were close.
• 1:51:01
  Speaker 2: Look who's back from the locker room?
• 1:51:04
  Speaker 12: What was the moon where the player's friendly to that?
• 1:51:07
  Speaker 13: None of them looked like Devik Henry Hay, Mike, what
• 1:51:10
  Speaker 13: was it like in the locker room?
• 1:51:16
  Speaker 14: What was it like in the locker room?
• 1:51:22
  Speaker 2: We had a we had another submission for Mike. You
• 1:51:25
  Speaker 2: want to play that, Matt.
• 1:51:27
  Speaker 1: Morel do so.
• 1:51:34
  Speaker 2: He so, I feel like I need to do like
• 1:51:43
  Speaker 2: a chick. We thought that one we might play when
• 1:51:46
  Speaker 2: you go into the that's.
• 1:51:47
  Speaker 6: For the locker room, and all the team just starts clapping.
• 1:51:50
  Speaker 2: I think we can get buy in from the team.
• 1:51:52
  Speaker 2: I think so, oh for sure.
• 1:51:55
  Speaker 6: I mean digs, everybody be like, we got to get
• 1:51:56
  Speaker 6: this guy a song when he comes.
• 1:51:57
  Speaker 2: By the way, That last one was made by my
• 1:51:59
  Speaker 2: brother Ohn. Sorry, thank you, Billy.
• 1:52:02
  Speaker 5: I appreciate that, like the heavy metal little twist there.
• 1:52:05
  Speaker 5: But yeah, so back from the locker room. Uh, you know,
• 1:52:07
  Speaker 5: I thought the theme from today is the season is
• 1:52:10
  Speaker 5: just starting now.
• 1:52:11
  Speaker 9: Uh.
• 1:52:11
  Speaker 5: A few different players say that, say that, yeah, and
• 1:52:14
  Speaker 5: so they're they're they're kind of glomming onto that. I
• 1:52:17
  Speaker 5: think that was kind of the message to the team today.
• 1:52:19
  Speaker 5: But a lot of respect for you know, Mayfield and
• 1:52:21
  Speaker 5: Tampa and you know, no, Mom, he was talking a
• 1:52:23
  Speaker 5: little bit about coming from Philadelphias, played down there a
• 1:52:25
  Speaker 5: couple of times and just said, you know, you got
• 1:52:27
  Speaker 5: to go down there. You want to win, you gotta
• 1:52:28
  Speaker 5: beat them. They're not going to give you a game
• 1:52:30
  Speaker 5: down there. That was an interesting point.
• 1:52:32
  Speaker 3: But otherwise, you know, it's.
• 1:52:33
  Speaker 2: Just I don't know.
• 1:52:34
  Speaker 5: I didn't love all the questions today. Like one of
• 1:52:36
  Speaker 5: the questions like seven and two? Do you ever think
• 1:52:38
  Speaker 5: to seven and two? Do you ever think you'd do
• 1:52:40
  Speaker 5: you ever think you'd be this good when you sign here?
• 1:52:42
  Speaker 4: Like they're good?
• 1:52:43
  Speaker 2: Guy, it's we ten, Like what are we talking about?
• 1:52:47
  Speaker 3: I mean I think if you asked all these people
• 1:52:49
  Speaker 3: individually to go down the schedule in the first nine games,
• 1:52:53
  Speaker 3: I mean maybe they were said four right right, Like
• 1:52:56
  Speaker 3: they beat Buffalo. I get it.
• 1:52:58
  Speaker 5: That was an upset. Yeah, there were no other upsets. Yeah, yeah,
• 1:53:02
  Speaker 5: I don't know some of them. I was just scratching
• 1:53:04
  Speaker 5: my head a little bit. But heard from Stuph Diggs
• 1:53:06
  Speaker 5: of course as always, which just he's always ready to go.
• 1:53:08
  Speaker 5: We walk into the locker room and stuffs just ready.
• 1:53:11
  Speaker 5: Even the players you know around him, clear out a
• 1:53:13
  Speaker 5: little bit. But Will Campbell, well, they asked a little
• 1:53:16
  Speaker 5: bit about appearing at the Celtics game.
• 1:53:17
  Speaker 6: He said it was the first NBA game he's ever
• 1:53:19
  Speaker 6: been to, so.
• 1:53:19
  Speaker 5: Not a bad way to take it in. And they
• 1:53:21
  Speaker 5: were like, well, what did you think when everyone was
• 1:53:22
  Speaker 5: cheering for you? He's like, yeah, they were cheering for
• 1:53:24
  Speaker 5: him and pointing over at Drake. Uh so, Will, it.
• 1:53:27
  Speaker 2: Was funny, Paul. One question, though, I think you would.
• 1:53:30
  Speaker 5: Have absolutely loved it, was you know, just what made
• 1:53:33
  Speaker 5: you want to make that tackle?
• 1:53:37
  Speaker 2: What made you want to make it? I play for
• 1:53:41
  Speaker 2: an NFL.
• 1:53:42
  Speaker 3: That's professional football player. The guy with the ball right,
• 1:53:46
  Speaker 3: he needs to be on the ground so the play stops.
• 1:53:49
  Speaker 3: Like do you like understand what I'm saying? How we
• 1:53:52
  Speaker 3: lose our minds over these things.
• 1:53:53
  Speaker 5: I think we lost our mind on that one for sure.
• 1:53:55
  Speaker 5: But you know he kind of chok.
• 1:53:58
  Speaker 2: A great play, terrific motivation. Yeah, that's my job.
• 1:54:03
  Speaker 3: He didn't like Again, I know, I make light of
• 1:54:06
  Speaker 3: the whole Benjamin Watson, he didn't traverse eighty yards. It
• 1:54:10
  Speaker 3: was at the thirty yard line. Yeah, he was like
• 1:54:13
  Speaker 3: three yards behind it when the guy picked up the
• 1:54:15
  Speaker 3: ball and he got him at the five or six whatever,
• 1:54:18
  Speaker 3: it was terrific play by Will Campbell.
• 1:54:22
  Speaker 2: What else is he supposed to do?
• 1:54:23
  Speaker 3: Just watch like you could say he missed the tackle,
• 1:54:28
  Speaker 3: maybe be better next time, but who's not chasing?
• 1:54:30
  Speaker 5: I know that's do your job, Do your job right.
• 1:54:33
  Speaker 5: He's got a pretty good sense of hum about it, though.
• 1:54:34
  Speaker 5: But he did say he he plays some defense when
• 1:54:37
  Speaker 5: he was in high.
• 1:54:37
  Speaker 6: School, and we're like, oh, you know, like what position
• 1:54:39
  Speaker 6: he plays, Like, we're not going to talk about that,
• 1:54:42
  Speaker 6: so I don't know.
• 1:54:43
  Speaker 2: It's funny, but it.
• 1:54:43
  Speaker 5: Seems like he's an offensive lineman through and through. And
• 1:54:46
  Speaker 5: then we hear from christ like him. He just has
• 1:54:49
  Speaker 5: like that little it's on a corner, but it's kind
• 1:54:51
  Speaker 5: of like near a space, so he could just he
• 1:54:53
  Speaker 5: just kind.
• 1:54:54
  Speaker 6: Of pops his elbow up against the thing.
• 1:54:56
  Speaker 5: Listens to his demeanor, very relaxed, doesn't say more than
• 1:55:00
  Speaker 5: he needs to, you know, measured with the way he speaks,
• 1:55:02
  Speaker 5: he's done.
• 1:55:02
  Speaker 2: He's done a great job in the locker room.
• 1:55:04
  Speaker 5: And Christian Gonzalez as well spoke and you know, some
• 1:55:07
  Speaker 5: nice words for Abuka, and you know, he's always kind
• 1:55:10
  Speaker 5: of get.
• 1:55:10
  Speaker 3: The impression that he's expecting to see a lot of him.
• 1:55:13
  Speaker 5: Didn't get that impression necessarily, but I was kind of
• 1:55:17
  Speaker 5: around the corner and I was kind of doing like
• 1:55:19
  Speaker 5: like one of these, because you know how the scrums are,
• 1:55:21
  Speaker 5: you gotta have to squeeze in.
• 1:55:22
  Speaker 3: There, so you should get more respect. Two songs.
• 1:55:26
  Speaker 6: Yeah, no, but it's an active day, I say.
• 1:55:28
  Speaker 5: Jory Epstein from Yaho Sports National, yeaho sports writer was here.
• 1:55:31
  Speaker 6: So he always asked me if there's more of a
• 1:55:33
  Speaker 6: Jory Epstein.
• 1:55:35
  Speaker 5: She's been around, heard that name in my life. Yeah,
• 1:55:37
  Speaker 5: she's I mean, she covers the NFL. She's one of
• 1:55:39
  Speaker 5: the national folks. So he always asked me if people
• 1:55:41
  Speaker 5: are you know, sizable media contingent today.
• 1:55:44
  Speaker 6: Definitely some new cameraman as well. But you see some
• 1:55:47
  Speaker 6: of the national guys making a stop too.
• 1:55:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I on Evan Evan.
• 1:55:51
  Speaker 5: I struggled to see Evan today. I was, well, this
• 1:55:54
  Speaker 5: is another part of it too. I was buried in
• 1:55:56
  Speaker 5: this stuff. Yeah he was still today, but I was
• 1:55:57
  Speaker 5: buried in the Steph Digs press conference and someone parted.
• 1:56:05
  Speaker 2: And so it was like also just pour oh ho
• 1:56:07
  Speaker 2: ho ho, let's wrap it up.
• 1:56:08
  Speaker 5: Step But you know, some of these these scrums get
• 1:56:12
  Speaker 5: going and it feels like you're you know, reaching that,
• 1:56:14
  Speaker 5: like all right, it's starting to wrap.
• 1:56:15
  Speaker 6: Up and then sorry, coming to late, but you know,
• 1:56:18
  Speaker 6: what do you think of the bucks this week?
• 1:56:19
  Speaker 2: And it's like, bro, apologize if you've been, We've been.
• 1:56:22
  Speaker 2: You know, you can't come in and ask like a
• 1:56:24
  Speaker 2: super general question.
• 1:56:25
  Speaker 5: But you know, sometimes they tend to like drag on
• 1:56:26
  Speaker 5: and on it and everyone's like okay, okay.
• 1:56:29
  Speaker 3: Thank you, thank you.
• 1:56:30
  Speaker 2: So good day, busy day. It seems like it's gonna
• 1:56:33
  Speaker 2: be short practice today.
• 1:56:33
  Speaker 5: I know we're doing our interview with Mac Hollins a
• 1:56:36
  Speaker 5: little early, so getting out there, see some guys dressing
• 1:56:39
  Speaker 5: up getting ready for some of the little little bit
• 1:56:41
  Speaker 5: cold weather there.
• 1:56:42
  Speaker 2: So good t me see what the temp is right now?
• 1:56:44
  Speaker 2: What do you got? Uh fifty five?
• 1:56:46
  Speaker 5: I mean not Travian Henderson. I was walking back right
• 1:56:48
  Speaker 5: in back of Travian Henderson. He had just a shell on,
• 1:56:50
  Speaker 5: no shirt underneath. Like he seems like cold doesn't with
• 1:56:56
  Speaker 5: like the full face, but that's kind of barm Yeah,
• 1:56:58
  Speaker 5: it's cool.
• 1:56:59
  Speaker 2: It's really windy out though the wind is supposed to
• 1:57:02
  Speaker 2: pick out north wind coming down to make it cooler.
• 1:57:06
  Speaker 2: The Autumn Raider I actually just got a text from
• 1:57:10
  Speaker 2: my electric company and it says we are we are
• 1:57:15
  Speaker 2: prepared for damaging wind gusts expected Wednesday into Thursday.
• 1:57:19
  Speaker 3: Supposed to be up to like fifty sixty miles an
• 1:57:21
  Speaker 3: hour Northeastern.
• 1:57:22
  Speaker 14: Yeah, fifty five to sixty six is what they're saying,
• 1:57:24
  Speaker 14: miles per hour.
• 1:57:25
  Speaker 2: I think it's just bringing in cold weather.
• 1:57:28
  Speaker 6: Well, tis the tis the season.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I had a Paul. Sorry, Paul, I had it.
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  Speaker 2: No one's more miserable than paulots and prayers to Paul.
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  Speaker 3: He had to put his heat on on Monday fourth.
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  Speaker 3: I going home from work Monday, it was fifty five
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  Speaker 3: from my house.
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  Speaker 2: I was like, yeah, I think it's maybe we need
• 1:57:44
  Speaker 2: to put it up a little. That's like a Onesie
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  Speaker 2: Regal blanket.
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  Speaker 4: Just put it on.
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  Speaker 3: She was working and I texted her that's pretty much
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  Speaker 3: the same thing I texted you.
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  Speaker 5: And she was like, Okay, it's pretty proud. He should
• 1:57:54
  Speaker 5: be pretty proud of yourself. You make it a November
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  Speaker 5: fourth without heat around here, that's pretty impressive.
• 1:57:57
  Speaker 2: All right. Well, listen, busy day in the locker room.
• 1:58:02
  Speaker 2: Teams off to practice, will be getting a practice report today.
• 1:58:06
  Speaker 3: And Rabel said, no, Stevenson, LS and Booty for practice today.
• 1:58:11
  Speaker 3: We never really got to recap the Mike's press conference,
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  Speaker 3: but he didn't mention that those those three guys would
• 1:58:18
  Speaker 3: not be practicing today. So I would say, then you
• 1:58:20
  Speaker 3: need to be prepared that those three guys will not
• 1:58:22
  Speaker 3: be available on Sunday.
• 1:58:23
  Speaker 1: Sure.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, And it's interesting the message that you mentioned this
• 1:58:29
  Speaker 2: is the start of the season. Interesting message because he's
• 1:58:32
  Speaker 2: brought up grind, trying to get the guy's mindset like, okay,
• 1:58:36
  Speaker 2: fresh start instead of this is a continuation of nine
• 1:58:40
  Speaker 2: games like we're starting now. Kind of I know it's
• 1:58:43
  Speaker 2: mental tricks it you know, it doesn't really affect your body,
• 1:58:46
  Speaker 2: but mentally, if you take on that mindset, maybe you
• 1:58:51
  Speaker 2: have you know, you feel a little refreshed. Yeah, maybe,
• 1:58:55
  Speaker 2: you know, I know the buy is a long way away.
• 1:58:58
  Speaker 3: It breaks up.
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  Speaker 5: Kind of nice though, because you've got eight games left.
• 1:59:00
  Speaker 5: You got four and four. Yeah, you got the buye
• 1:59:02
  Speaker 5: in the middle, so you break it up into into chunks. Obviously,
• 1:59:06
  Speaker 5: the next what eight days is going to be a
• 1:59:08
  Speaker 5: grind for them. Two games in the next eight days,
• 1:59:10
  Speaker 5: but you know, and then you got to travel.
• 1:59:12
  Speaker 2: Imagine if Bill was here during this stretch. Yeah, Oh,
• 1:59:15
  Speaker 2: he'd be.
• 1:59:18
  Speaker 3: Yeah for very long, way, very long.
• 1:59:21
  Speaker 11: What's that for?
• 1:59:21
  Speaker 2: Every long week, there's a show week.
• 1:59:22
  Speaker 3: But I do think Rabel's playing a little at that
• 1:59:25
  Speaker 3: with nobody.
• 1:59:26
  Speaker 2: They're all up against us.
• 1:59:27
  Speaker 3: This is disrespect the world, disrespectful that we got such
• 1:59:30
  Speaker 3: a late buy and they're coming. He also mentioned they're
• 1:59:33
  Speaker 3: coming on they've had a couple of days off. He
• 1:59:35
  Speaker 3: mentioned in Tampa.
• 1:59:37
  Speaker 2: Bad line, I don't want to trade with us. We all,
• 1:59:39
  Speaker 2: we got we all we need just remember that Hatreots fans.
• 1:59:44
  Speaker 2: All right, we'll see you tomorrow.
• 1:59:47
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  Speaker 6: That's a lot