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Mark interviews author Ann Coulter. · The Mark Simone Show

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  Speaker 1: Welcome back to The Mark Simone Show.
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  Speaker 2: Live from the WOR LifeVac studios.
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  Speaker 1: Well, Ann Coulter, the best-selling author, the great columnist. Hey,
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  Speaker 1: also make sure you watch her Rumble channel. She's got
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  Speaker 1: a great Rumble channel, lots of great stuff there. Also,
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  Speaker 1: follow her on Twitter. And Substack's even better. You can
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  Speaker 1: go to anncoulter.substack.com. She's got videos and interviews and podcasts.
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  Speaker 1: Ann Coulter, how are you doing?
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  Speaker 2: How are you, Mark Simone?
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  Speaker 1: I'm good. I'm good. I hate to bring this up,
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  Speaker 1: but didn't you go to Cornell?
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  Speaker 2: Oh, yes, I did. I'm writing about it. I talked
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  Speaker 2: about it in my sub stack last week.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, so the Cornell of when you were there, was
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  Speaker 1: it a nice place? Safe?
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  Speaker 2: Well, as you'll see in my column, I think this
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  Speaker 2: story has a different, there's a different moral to it
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  Speaker 2: than what the New York Times is drawing here. No,
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  Speaker 2: the fraternities and sororities are great.
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  Speaker 1: You will admit that that is the single ugliest fraternity
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  Speaker 1: house ever. It's hideously ugly.
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  Speaker 2: Well, it's interesting that I, of course, was in a sorority.
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  Speaker 2: I guess about a third of the undergraduates are in
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  Speaker 2: mostly fraternities. There are about 50 fraternities, at least when
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  Speaker 2: I was there. I think there were only seven or
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  Speaker 2: eight sororities. But they tend to... you know, hang out
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  Speaker 2: with the same, the same top two sororities would hang
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  Speaker 2: out with the same, say, ten fraternities. And I and
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  Speaker 2: none of my friends had heard of this Chi Phi,
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  Speaker 2: so we sort of assumed in looking at some of
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  Speaker 2: the pictures, it was kind of a mediocre fraternity. Tri-Delts was...
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  Speaker 2: was definitely not a hot girl sorority. And the reason
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  Speaker 2: I mention that, as I discussed in my Rumble podcast,
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  Speaker 2: is that in real life is always the exact opposite
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  Speaker 2: of the way Hollywood portrays just utter sexual licentiousness. It's
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  Speaker 2: always the really good-looking people engaging in polymory, as the
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  Speaker 2: New York Times calls it.
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  Speaker 1: Poly what?
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  Speaker 2: Polyamory, I think they call it.
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  Speaker 1: Polyamory, that sounds good. So instead of saying, would you
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  Speaker 1: like a threesome, I could say, how about a little polyamory?
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  Speaker 2: Yes, except you're too good looking to propose it. And
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  Speaker 2: you would not speak to a girl who would be
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  Speaker 2: willing to accept it. And I just always think that
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  Speaker 2: is worth pointing out, that there's an element of sadness
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  Speaker 2: and desperation in all of these cases. But the true
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  Speaker 2: facts of the case, which, oh my gosh, I mean,
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  Speaker 2: one interesting thing about, I've been following very closely the
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  Speaker 2: New York Times coverage, and they state in these articles
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  Speaker 2: that they have the full 100-plus page file on the case,
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  Speaker 2: and that is all the transcripts with Jane Doe, the
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  Speaker 2: transcripts with the accused, et cetera, et cetera, interviews with,
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  Speaker 2: I guess, sorority mates and and other members of the fraternity,
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  Speaker 2: but they're only ladling it out to us in a
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  Speaker 2: particular direction. So, I mean, some of the, I think,
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  Speaker 2: most important points in this little saga did manage to
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  Speaker 2: work their way into the media. So, for example, a
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  Speaker 2: few days after this really sordid affair, Jane Doe herself
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  Speaker 2: was texting the one guy she was going to have
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  Speaker 2: sex with and showing how enthusiastic he was about seeing her.
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  Speaker 2: There was no dinner, no flowers, no chocolate. She just
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  Speaker 2: hauls herself three miles across campus to his fraternity to
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  Speaker 2: have sex with him one night, and then he proposes
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  Speaker 2: a threesome. A few days later, huge furor breaks. It
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  Speaker 2: goes through the sororities and fraternities like wildfire. She texts
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  Speaker 2: him saying, people need to grow up. Sex and sexual
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  Speaker 2: relations are changing. People are going to be doing this
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  Speaker 2: all the time in the future. And I'm very open-minded.
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  Speaker 2: So she was really pushing that line pretty hard until
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  Speaker 2: it became clear that no one was really buying this
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  Speaker 2: and her reputation was shot. I mean, it did take
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  Speaker 2: her three weeks to suddenly realize that. that she had
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  Speaker 2: been the victim of an incredibly traumatic experience because, you know,
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  Speaker 2: that happens all the time when people are raped, mugged, knifed.
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  Speaker 2: It takes them three weeks to realize that it happened
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  Speaker 2: to them.
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  Speaker 1: So is this how they behave at college now? What
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  Speaker 1: happened to Richie Cunningham taking the girl to the malt shop?
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  Speaker 1: This is a date now at a college campus?
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  Speaker 2: No, quite clearly it isn't, or it wouldn't have led
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  Speaker 2: to the reaction among, at least among the fraternities and sororities.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, Cornell is a very, very big college. There
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  Speaker 2: are seven different colleges at Cornell. As I've mentioned before,
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  Speaker 2: only the arts and sciences, the one you get a
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  Speaker 2: BA from, is the Ivy League school because they have
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  Speaker 2: these weird schools like the agriculture school. and industrial relations school.
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  Speaker 2: There's even a school they had, because, you know, it's way,
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  Speaker 2: way up north, and it used to be all male,
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  Speaker 2: as many, maybe most colleges, well, all colleges, but most
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  Speaker 2: colleges were. They needed to get some girls out to
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  Speaker 2: the hinterland, so they had a school of home ec,
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  Speaker 2: and the school was still there, but they've changed the
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  Speaker 2: name of it to human ecology. Now, there are some
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  Speaker 2: great courses in each one of these schools, these schools,
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  Speaker 2: particularly if that's what you want to do in life.
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  Speaker 2: But my point is they're very, very different. They have
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  Speaker 2: a different type of student, each one of these schools.
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  Speaker 2: And there are so, it's such a big school that
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  Speaker 2: there are different, different groups. So what's going on in
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  Speaker 2: the sorority fraternity world, the rest of the campus can
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  Speaker 2: be completely oblivious to, um, And no, the sorority and
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  Speaker 2: fraternity world, it's still Richie taking you to the mall shop.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, but this college president, you know, he said, well,
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  Speaker 1: we think we handled it correct. If you'd handled it correctly,
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  Speaker 1: it wouldn't be front page news two years later every day.
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  Speaker 1: So obviously... I don't think so.
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  Speaker 2: I think they did handle it correctly from looking at everything.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, for one thing, there's absolutely no risk that
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  Speaker 2: a college is not going to pursue... a claim of
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  Speaker 2: rape with sufficient for rostered uh... as i mentioned in
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  Speaker 2: my column today called because of their aggressiveness toward any
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  Speaker 2: hint of you know misbehavior toward a a co-ed uh...
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  Speaker 2: in the last ten years colleges have been sick subjected
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  Speaker 2: to hundreds of lawsuits by male students brought up before
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  Speaker 2: these title mine investigations they paid out a hundred million dollars, approximately. So, no,
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  Speaker 2: you don't have to worry about the Cornell administration, you know,
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  Speaker 2: scoffing this off and saying, oh, boys will be boys.
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  Speaker 2: And in the end, what their investigation found was that,
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  Speaker 2: I guess, two of them were very guilty and got
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  Speaker 2: expelled entirely. Two of them were suspended. And two... On
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  Speaker 2: closer examination, even according to Doe herself, did nothing at all.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know why she's throwing them in here. They
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  Speaker 2: were trying to protect her if anything was going amiss
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  Speaker 2: from all the information we have. And yes, nonetheless, they
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  Speaker 2: had to attend sexual harassment training classes or something. But
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  Speaker 2: of course, the fraternity was banned.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, all right. Well, they did take a lot of action.
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  Speaker 2: Permanently, forever. So, no, there was aggressive action taken as
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  Speaker 2: any university, the most aggressive action any university could possibly take.
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  Speaker 2: They're not the prosecutor. They don't prosecute these cases. They
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  Speaker 2: summarize it. She looked at the summary. She wrote a
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  Speaker 2: lot of notes in it. She signed it, and that
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  Speaker 2: was given to the DA. In her own words, she
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  Speaker 2: only mentioned rape twice. Once was this really weird thing
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  Speaker 2: she said about how She was thinking, you know, if
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  Speaker 2: she took enough ketamine and passed out and they had
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  Speaker 2: sex with her, well, then it could be called rape. Well,
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  Speaker 2: that's a weird thing to think about as you're continuing
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  Speaker 2: to do ketamine. And at the end of everything she described,
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  Speaker 2: which involved a lot of her being the one to say, oh,
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  Speaker 2: we're all consenting adults here... She says at the end
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  Speaker 2: of it something like, which is repeated in every New
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  Speaker 2: York Times article about this, every article as if this
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  Speaker 2: is dispositive proof, the end she says something like, I'm 100%
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  Speaker 2: sure I was raped. Well, that's kind of a conclusory
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  Speaker 2: legal statement. I mean, I could be ripped off in
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  Speaker 2: the purchase of a car and go to the, but
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  Speaker 2: if I have an agreement and a contract and then
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  Speaker 2: go and say, oh, I was robbed. No, that's not
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  Speaker 2: that you can say that but but you're not the
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  Speaker 2: one making a legal compute conclusion What we get.
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  Speaker 1: From you are the facts And the other problem they
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  Speaker 1: have is it's an election, and Kathy Hochul's in trouble,
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  Speaker 1: and using this with Letitia James, they're going to exploit
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  Speaker 1: the hell out of this, aren't they? It's not going
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  Speaker 1: to help Cornell.
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  Speaker 2: I think that may end up being a mistake if
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  Speaker 2: more facts come out before Election Day. I mean, you
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  Speaker 2: know how most of these things have gone. It didn't
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  Speaker 2: help Mike Nifong. He was doing the exact same thing
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  Speaker 2: for the exact same reason. He had an election coming up.
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  Speaker 2: He was the prosecutor that had to go to prison
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  Speaker 2: for how he went after the Duke lacrosse players. Total
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  Speaker 2: BS case. But he was up for re-election, and that's
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  Speaker 2: what was apparently driving him to this utterly mad behavior.
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  Speaker 1: Interesting. Well, Ann Coulter, we're out of time, but everybody
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  Speaker 1: should follow her on Substack, anncoulter.substack.com. And then your Rumble channel,
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  Speaker 1: you've got new stuff every week, right, on Rumble?
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  Speaker 2: Yes, though I may skip this week. What? We'll put
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  Speaker 2: out an announcement. Well, I've got a lot to do.
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  Speaker 1: All right, well, check out the Rumble channel anyway.
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  Speaker 2: The Yankees are really taking my time this week.
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  Speaker 1: Well, that's just tonight, and then that should be over.
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  Speaker 2: I hope not, but you could be right.
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  Speaker 1: And then make sure you follow her on Twitter. It's
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  Speaker 1: Ann Coulter Twitter. AnnCoulter.substack.com Ann Coulter, thanks for being with us.
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  Speaker 2: Good to talk to you, Mark Simone. Bye-bye.
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