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How Much Will Ohio State's 3 Freshman Receivers Contribute In 2024 · Buckeyes TomOrrow Morning

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  Speaker 1: going to be hearing from guys we talked to a
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  Speaker 1: couple days ago. This was actually from last Friday, but
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  Speaker 1: not a lot of news coming out since since this
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  Speaker 1: should all be pretty much relevant now still, So I'm
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  Speaker 1: going to let you hear from Brian Hartline, I'm going
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  Speaker 1: to let you hear from Carnell Tate, from Jordan Hancock
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  Speaker 1: and Jermaine Matthews on today's show. So a little bit
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  Speaker 1: of offense, a little bit of defense, and especially some guys,
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  Speaker 1: younger guys who expected to take a bigger role this year,
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  Speaker 1: and guys you haven't necessarily heard a ton from, So
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  Speaker 1: hopefully that'll be interesting for you. I know, people generally
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  Speaker 1: like to see and hear these guys out of uniform
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  Speaker 1: before the season starts, so you sort of get to
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  Speaker 1: know the guys a little better. So here we go.
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  Speaker 1: Let's start with someone you do know pretty well at
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  Speaker 1: this point, that as wide receivers coach, Brian Hartline. What
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  Speaker 1: is he like about going up against this caliber of
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  Speaker 1: a defensive back every day in practice, the Ohios the
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  Speaker 1: defense expected to be one of the best, if not
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  Speaker 1: the best, in the nation this year. Defensive backs quite
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  Speaker 1: possibly the best in Ohio State history. So what is
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  Speaker 1: it like for the wide receivers to go up against
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  Speaker 1: these defensive backs every single day in practice?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I think that, Uh, you know, part
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  Speaker 2: of coming to Ohio State is the iron on iron
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  Speaker 2: iron Tirpin's iron. This that's a cliche statement, but uh,
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  Speaker 2: it's really true. I mean, it's it's twofold, right, It's
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  Speaker 2: it's the uh the dbasy go against every day, and
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  Speaker 2: then it's the guys in your room. You know, you
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  Speaker 2: can't have a bad day. So the combination of both
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  Speaker 2: of those is critical. You can't have one without the other,
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  Speaker 2: you know. I think that, you know, again, I can
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  Speaker 2: see if they're praises. This is the best dB corps.
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  Speaker 2: I want to say, you know, depth wise or top
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  Speaker 2: of the line wise that I think probably I've seen
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  Speaker 2: since I've been here. We've had great players, you know,
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  Speaker 2: over the last six seven years, eight years. So, but
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  Speaker 2: as a core, as a group, you know, the quality
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  Speaker 2: of you know, the coaching that's happening day in and
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  Speaker 2: day out. How early. These guys are meeting to get
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  Speaker 2: job descriptions and execute a high level. It's been different.
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  Speaker 2: So I can't say enough about the competition we have
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  Speaker 2: day and day out against b I A.
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  Speaker 1: All right, that was one question. We've made you wait
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  Speaker 1: long enough for what you're all here for. Jeremiah Smith.
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  Speaker 1: Let's talk Jeremiah Smith. Brian Hartline. Have you ever seen
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  Speaker 1: a freshman wide receiver like Jeremiah Smith before?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I would say every guy that comes in, they're all different,
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  Speaker 2: and they're all in their own path. I would say,
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  Speaker 2: some gotta grow here or others got to grow there.
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  Speaker 2: And and the end goal isn't to you know, start
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  Speaker 2: at Ohio State. That's just one of the goals along
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  Speaker 2: the journey. So you know, once you start, then you
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  Speaker 2: have you productive. And then once you're productive and you
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  Speaker 2: have a name, you gotta justify that name. And then
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  Speaker 2: you know, then you become a first round pick, and
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  Speaker 2: you got to show your work to be on a
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  Speaker 2: first round pick. So h the end, the main goal
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  Speaker 2: is where we're at. He has a lot of tools,
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  Speaker 2: he works extremely hard, and I'll say this, I would
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  Speaker 2: say that we've never had an iron Buckeye from coach
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  Speaker 2: Mick as a freshman, I don't know about ever or
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  Speaker 2: I know definitely since I've been here, So a lot
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  Speaker 2: of credit to him. Where as far as Jeremiah goes,
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  Speaker 2: he you know, embodied everything that is a part of
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  Speaker 2: that conversation. Right, It's not just lifting numbers, speed numbers.
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  Speaker 2: It is the way you carry yourself, the way you train,
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  Speaker 2: the way you you know, the edge to you, it's
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  Speaker 2: all of that. And so he's the first one that's
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  Speaker 2: ever earned that, and you know, all to kind of
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  Speaker 2: leave you.
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  Speaker 1: With that, Jeremiah Smith not the only talented freshman wide
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  Speaker 1: receiver on this year's Ohio State team. We're gonna be
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  Speaker 1: talking about two other ones now. First, how about Mylon Graham.
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  Speaker 1: Mylon Graham also a five star wide receiver, but he
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  Speaker 1: was not in force the spring. He just showed up
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  Speaker 1: in June, so a little behind, you know, a little
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  Speaker 1: behind schedule, maybe because he arrived on time and not
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  Speaker 1: early like everyone else that everyone else seems to these days.
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  Speaker 1: So with the idea that he only right in June,
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  Speaker 1: what has Brian Hartline seen so far from Mylon Graham
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  Speaker 1: this year?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, Milon came in as a as a lead June.
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  Speaker 2: Uh and uh, but man, he's really done a good
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  Speaker 2: job of learning uh the offense, learning what I want,
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  Speaker 2: you know, what we want. I would say that there's
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  Speaker 2: a lot of pride in his work. He does not
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  Speaker 2: like having MS, almost to the point where he tries
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  Speaker 2: to justify himself and why he did things like violin
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  Speaker 2: you know, Sandy breath. But I appreciate that edge. I
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  Speaker 2: really do you know he's jumping in and trying to
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  Speaker 2: take reps. He's really doing a good job, you know.
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  Speaker 2: And I think right now he's just chasing building a
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  Speaker 2: body of work to justify where he's at. Right, that's
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  Speaker 2: the hardest part about coming to June. I mean, what
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  Speaker 2: body of work did you really you know, developed or
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  Speaker 2: proven to your peers, your coaches, to really justify what
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  Speaker 2: you want to accomplish, right, you guys know that? So uh,
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  Speaker 2: that's what he's chasing around now. He's trying to stack
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  Speaker 2: days and just show and and and uh, you know,
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  Speaker 2: develop his identity as a fallall player here at.
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  Speaker 1: High SKay do that? And then someone you were probably thinking,
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  Speaker 1: wait a minute, they only signed two wide receivers in
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  Speaker 1: the twenty twenty four class. What is he talking about Well,
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  Speaker 1: how about de Maurian Witten. He technically was list he
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  Speaker 1: was listed as a tight end and all the recruiting
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  Speaker 1: sites he was listed as a tight end I think
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  Speaker 1: when Ohio State released the roster. But he's been working
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  Speaker 1: in the wide receiver room this year, so I'm going
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  Speaker 1: to count him with the wide receivers at least for
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  Speaker 1: the moment. So what has Briton Hartline seen from Demarian
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  Speaker 1: Witten so far in his Ohio State career.
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  Speaker 2: It doesn't matter if it's him or anybody. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: we're all trying to learn football at a high level.
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  Speaker 2: You're competing with your peers. The standout that I learned
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  Speaker 2: things quicker or I you know, I make more plays,
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  Speaker 2: whatever those are. You're trying. You're always competing with your
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  Speaker 2: peers initially and then obviously the whole room, and then
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  Speaker 2: it's nationally. You get the idea, right, So you know,
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  Speaker 2: it's competing with all the other guys, you know, Dorian
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  Speaker 2: and Mylin and you know, so I JJ. You know
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  Speaker 2: he's got a head start. You know, I think that
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  Speaker 2: he's got strong hands, your body guy. He's got to
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  Speaker 2: make sure he's not you know, getting you know, a
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  Speaker 2: tight end body. Right, he's a skilled athlete. He's definitely,
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  Speaker 2: you know, got some skills. He's working on his footwork,
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  Speaker 2: he getting his mechanics and a lot of boxes he's
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  Speaker 2: working to check. And again, I think he's been doing
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  Speaker 2: that in attacking that with purpose each day, you know. So,
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  Speaker 2: but you see a flash year and there. We're just
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  Speaker 2: looking for consistencies, right, and that's just that's with all
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  Speaker 2: these guys, and you know, he kind of fits that mole.
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  Speaker 1: Another guy who did not get to show a whole
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  Speaker 1: heck of a lot this spring was Brandon Innis. He was,
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  Speaker 1: of course on campus for his second year with at
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  Speaker 1: with the Buckeyes, but he missed most of the spring
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  Speaker 1: with a foot injury. So what did Brandon Innis do
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  Speaker 1: to show you that he still belongs in the picture
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  Speaker 1: for a lot of playing time this fall with Ohio State.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean we made the decision to get him
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  Speaker 2: healthy with his foot this past spring, so we missed
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  Speaker 2: a lot of spring. But I would say the way
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  Speaker 2: he carried himself, in the way he was a leader,
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  Speaker 2: and then I would say once he was back, you know,
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  Speaker 2: Coach Mick does a lot of things to great guys
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  Speaker 2: and give feedback and help guys accountable. So he was
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  Speaker 2: a guy that you know, impressed his teammates through the summer.
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  Speaker 2: He was a guy that was all gold. He was
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  Speaker 2: a guy that the leaders wanted to vote him onto
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  Speaker 2: the leadership council. So he earned all that without him
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  Speaker 2: playing football. So how do you stand out? It was
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  Speaker 2: everything of the non talent issues, everything off the field
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  Speaker 2: he stood out in and you know he's got to
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  Speaker 2: continue bringing that day in and day out. But that
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  Speaker 2: was probably what he did through the summer to you know,
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  Speaker 2: get back on track and stay on track.
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  Speaker 1: With all the hype around Jeremiah Smith and all the
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  Speaker 1: excitement around a Meccabuka coming back for one more season,
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  Speaker 1: it feels like Cardinal Tait is kind of getting overlooked
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  Speaker 1: in a way. He is someone who is set to
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  Speaker 1: be enter his second season now, and that's a year
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  Speaker 1: when we've seen guys really take a big step Jackson
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  Speaker 1: Smith and Jay but going from his first year of
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  Speaker 1: his second year, it looked like a completely different wide
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  Speaker 1: receive Marvin Harrison Junior very much the Sames. This is
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  Speaker 1: a position where you often will see guys take a
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  Speaker 1: big leap from year one to year two. So all right,
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  Speaker 1: let's hear from Carnal Tait. We've seen guys kind of
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  Speaker 1: explode in year two of their careers. Where do you
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  Speaker 1: think you are entering year two? And then you're gonna
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  Speaker 1: hear a couple of follow ups from our buddy Tony
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  Speaker 1: Gerderman and Patrick Murphy. I fuck nuts dot com.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I feel like I'm on that project you. I
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  Speaker 4: feel like it's my time, No now, gon win. I
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  Speaker 4: feel like I'm ready to embrace that.
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  Speaker 3: Bigger road as we go on.
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  Speaker 1: What does that look like making plays?
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  Speaker 4: Go out there, hopefully have a thousand yards and make
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  Speaker 4: plays for the team we needed and beat that go
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  Speaker 4: to guy.
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  Speaker 3: Is that a target ten thousand yards?
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  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, definitely.
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  Speaker 3: How many guys could have a thousand yards?
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  Speaker 4: All three of us before of us can have a
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  Speaker 4: thousand yards? Right, we got two great round They're gonna
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  Speaker 4: have a thousand yards. So it just we gonna come
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  Speaker 4: together as office execute.
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  Speaker 1: Carnel Tate has been singled out as having the softest
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  Speaker 1: hands on the team, the best hands on the team, whatever,
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  Speaker 1: however you want to categorize that. His hands very good,
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  Speaker 1: very good catcher of the football. Carnel Tait, So, how
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  Speaker 1: do you develop that skill?
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  Speaker 4: Oh, just concentration. You can't get in your hand, you
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  Speaker 4: can't get to your head about it catching coming from
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  Speaker 4: like the mice and mindset game. You when you start
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  Speaker 4: dropping the ball, you can get into your head and
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  Speaker 4: stuff like that. So you got to build confidence by
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  Speaker 4: keep catching the ball.
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  Speaker 1: And of course, whenever we're talking to players on the offense,
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  Speaker 1: we've got to hear about the quarterback. Will Howard. He
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  Speaker 1: came in in the spring, seemed like he was okay,
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  Speaker 1: but not necessarily there. And it feels like he's taking
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  Speaker 1: a big step between the spring and fall camp.
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  Speaker 4: Now.
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  Speaker 1: So how different is Will Howard now compared to how
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  Speaker 1: he looked in the spring.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, he's he's way more relaxed this time. Morale, he's mad.
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  Speaker 4: He go out there making his mistakes that he learned
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  Speaker 4: from next player and there bounce back the song to
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  Speaker 4: usbout what he saw out there, how we can be
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  Speaker 4: better and this and that.
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  Speaker 1: Now, let's flip over under the defensive side of the
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  Speaker 1: ball and cornerback Jordan Hancock. He's been playing nickel last year,
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  Speaker 1: played nick gonna be playing nickel this year. The defense
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  Speaker 1: had a lot to feel good about last year but
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  Speaker 1: never created quite as many turnovers as I think they
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  Speaker 1: probably would have liked. So is that sort of a
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  Speaker 1: point of emphasis this year, not just getting stops but
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  Speaker 1: getting turnovers as well.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, we want to make some big time plays this year.
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  Speaker 5: We didn't really have too many last year. We need
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  Speaker 5: some more turnovers. So that's really the point of emphasis,
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  Speaker 5: whether that's getting punch outs on the ball or making
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  Speaker 5: new subjects.
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  Speaker 1: The Ohio State cornerback room has branded themselves BIA or
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  Speaker 1: Best in America. That's been true for a number of
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  Speaker 1: years that they've branded themselves that way, but it hasn't
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  Speaker 1: necessarily always been true on the field. You probably remember
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  Speaker 1: the twenty twenty and twenty twenty one Ohio State defenses.
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  Speaker 1: So now with Jim Knowles in town, the defense has
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  Speaker 1: gotten steadily better over the last couple of years, and
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  Speaker 1: it feels like BIA really does live up to the
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  Speaker 1: Moniker Now. So what does it mean to Jordan Hancock
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  Speaker 1: to hold that room to that standard.
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  Speaker 5: It means everything that is back to us, means everything
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  Speaker 5: to the school, the people that came before us, Coach
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  Speaker 5: walk I mean, we literally had talks like I remember
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  Speaker 5: in twenty twenty two season, like we're going to bring
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  Speaker 5: this thing back, like we talked about it so many times,
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  Speaker 5: like the revival of BIA, Like we really talked about
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  Speaker 5: this before it happened last year. So, I mean we
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  Speaker 5: just seen it have a infruition. It's crazy, but we
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  Speaker 5: kind of knew it was going to come back to
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  Speaker 5: the standard and with those guys left behind us.
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  Speaker 1: And finally Jermaine Matthews. He's someone who if a couple
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  Speaker 1: of those guys who could have gone pro did go pro,
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  Speaker 1: you probably would be hearing a lot about Jermaine Matthews
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  Speaker 1: being a potential breakout player as a starter as a sophomore. Instead,
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  Speaker 1: he is probably going to be maybe the fourth corner
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  Speaker 1: something like that, behind Davison Aigunosen and Denzel Burke and
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  Speaker 1: Jordan Hancock. No great shame in being behind those guys
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  Speaker 1: as a second year player. But we have seen him
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  Speaker 1: working both at the nickel and outside this fall at
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  Speaker 1: various times during practices. So where has Jermaine Matthews been
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  Speaker 1: playing more this fall?
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  Speaker 3: I think the first Cup I was more of a nickel.
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  Speaker 3: I think I've been more more outside. A couple of
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  Speaker 3: players came back and so we got more depth now,
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  Speaker 3: so I can just go back and forth and just
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  Speaker 3: I think I think it's been a good mix of
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  Speaker 3: fifty to fifty right now.
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  Speaker 1: Matthews had a very impressive freshman season, getting on the
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  Speaker 1: field early, looking impressive while he was out there, not
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  Speaker 1: looking at all like a true freshman when he was
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  Speaker 1: out there last fall. So what has he been working
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  Speaker 1: on since last season to prepare himself for an even
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  Speaker 1: bigger role this year?
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  Speaker 3: Just being more valuable to the team, just like the
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  Speaker 3: nickel thing. I didn't play nickel last year and I
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  Speaker 3: started just letting it in the spring and just growing
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  Speaker 3: more with it now. So I think just getting more
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  Speaker 3: value for the team and just finding my way and
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  Speaker 3: just buying into my role.
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  Speaker 1: And finally, Jermaine Matthews was asked about a guy who
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  Speaker 1: was in the same position that Matthews was this time
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  Speaker 1: last year. So this time it's Aaron Scott, who's the
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  Speaker 1: true freshman hoping to earn, you know, some snaps, earning
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  Speaker 1: a little bit of a role on the defense this
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  Speaker 1: year as a true freshman. Obviously probably not going to
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  Speaker 1: be a Day one starter like that, but has a
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  Speaker 1: chance to be a meaningful contributor to this team. So
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  Speaker 1: what is your main Matthew seen out of Aaron Scott.
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  Speaker 3: So far, Aaron has a big frame and he has
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  Speaker 3: just a knack for just a position, and he's been
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  Speaker 3: growing since he's got here. He's been growing a lot.
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  Speaker 3: He's been showing improvement. So that's always a great science.
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