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32 - The Fall of the House of Gucci · Who Did What Now With Katie Charlwood

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Speaker 1: The only thing I know I packed too much of
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Speaker 1: such a perfect day. I'm glad to spany with you.
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Speaker 1: But I know what you're thinking. You're thinking quite your
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Speaker 1: chipper jabber in fact me, in fact you I well
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Speaker 1: that first we got to get our source on as
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Speaker 1: we were talking about Patrizia Reggiane and the House of Gucci.
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Speaker 1: First of all, we have, of course the book that
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Speaker 1: the film is based Off of the House of Gucci.
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Speaker 1: A sensational story of murder, madness, glamour and greed by
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Speaker 1: Sarah G. Forden. Little Book of Guccie, The Story of
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Speaker 1: the iconic fashion House by Karen Homer. In the Name
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Speaker 1: of Guccie, a memoir by Patricia Gucci, The Guccie Wife
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Speaker 1: and The hit Man, Fashion's Darkest Tale by Abigail Haveorth.
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Speaker 1: And of course we have articles from The Guardian, The
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Speaker 1: Times and the Telegraph. So are you ready? Let's begin.
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Speaker 1: So part of me really wanted to talk about this
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Speaker 1: story for a couple of reasons, you know, because I
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Speaker 1: love many things in this world, including very important parts
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Speaker 1: of this story which involve true crime, empowered women, and
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Speaker 1: many words that I will struggle to pronounce. So any
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Speaker 1: excuse to try saying things in an Italian accent and
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Speaker 1: failing that sertably. And I'm fairly certain I only know
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Speaker 1: two words in Italian, the first of which to be
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Speaker 1: in bon journal, which is hello, and the other one
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Speaker 1: being frankle bali, which is a stamp, like a postage stamp.
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Speaker 1: And you're thinking, Katie, why are the only two words
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Speaker 1: you know hello and postage stamp? First of all, you
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Speaker 1: learn hello in most languages briviot, ja, ditch, et cetera,
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Speaker 1: et cetera. And the reason I know francle bally that
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Speaker 1: means postage stamp is because I used to work in
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Speaker 1: a souvenir store in Amsterdam and I had two very
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Speaker 1: confused Italian tourists who could only speak Italian, and it
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Speaker 1: took me and another girl, honestly, about eight minutes to
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Speaker 1: figure out what they were trying to tell us, because
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Speaker 1: she was German, I was this, and neither one of
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Speaker 1: us spoke Italian, and the Italians did not speak English
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Speaker 1: or German, or Irish or French. But we got there
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Speaker 1: in the end after a game of charades, and that's
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Speaker 1: the important thing. So let's start from the beginning, shall we.
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Speaker 1: The Gucci family have vehemently stated their roots are deeply
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Speaker 1: entwined in that of the city of Florence, Italy, from
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Speaker 1: like before the Renaissance, So we are talking fourteen ten.
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Speaker 1: This is pre but the creation of the dynasty actually
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Speaker 1: starts in eighteen ninety seven, when oh, I'm gonna have
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Speaker 1: so much fun with his name. Guccio Gio vanm Bardista Giacinto,
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Speaker 1: Dario Maria Goggi, I think I've got that right, otherwise
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Speaker 1: known as Guccio Gucci, that's right. He leaves Florence, stops
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Speaker 1: off in Paris for a bit and then ends up
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Speaker 1: in London where he's working at the Savoy Hotel, and
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Speaker 1: he's a wee bell hop being the person who lugs
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Speaker 1: around everyone's luggage. He keeps his eyes and ears open.
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Speaker 1: He's paying attention to fashion and fabrics and and travel
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Speaker 1: and like upscale travel. Because after that he ends up
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Speaker 1: with a compagny wag on the basically a rail company
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Speaker 1: in Europe, which is just like travel for the rich folk,
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Speaker 1: you know what I mean. After World War One, he
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Speaker 1: ends up working for the luggage maker Frenzy. By nineteen
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Speaker 1: twenty one, Guccio Gucci buys his own shop on seven
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Speaker 1: Via der Ravinia and Lueva in Florence at the end
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Speaker 1: Indvidi Gotiogucci, and he basically sells imported leather luggage, but
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Speaker 1: not content onjust like selling imported goods. He opens up
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Speaker 1: a wee workshop in the back and he gets local
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Speaker 1: craftsman to make his own leather goods, and like he
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Speaker 1: is killing it in the leather crafting business because he's
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Speaker 1: got sixty artisans who at this point cannot fit in
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Speaker 1: the back workshop and he has to expand and move
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Speaker 1: into a bigger workshop. Unfortunately for Guccio Gucci, Mussolini the
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Speaker 1: arsehole decides to invade Ethiopia, thus resulting in a trading
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Speaker 1: bargo with Italy. Basically, there's not a lot of leather
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Speaker 1: going around. He's got to think outside the box. They're
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Speaker 1: basically using everything they can get their hands on, wicker wood, raffia, linen, jute,
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Speaker 1: even jute. You know what jude is. It is the
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Speaker 1: stuff that sacks are made off potato sacks. You know
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Speaker 1: when they say you look good in a potato sack.
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Speaker 1: If Guccio Gucci was involved apparently so by nineteen thirty seven,
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Speaker 1: Guccio launches handbags. Gucci was very much a family business,
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Speaker 1: as most businesses were back in the day, so Guccio
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Speaker 1: had his wife and all his kids working in the shop,
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Speaker 1: and his son Aldo by nineteen thirty eight, convinces Gucchio
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Speaker 1: to like open up another shop in Rome and to
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Speaker 1: start making like more Gucci accessories, so like gloves, belts, kichins, wallets, YadA, YadA, YadA,
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Speaker 1: but like during World War Two, they were creating less
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Speaker 1: luxury items and we're actually making boots for the Italian infantry. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: I'm not sure how I feel about that, but all right.
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Speaker 1: So after the war and Guccio Gucci's like, I'm done,
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Speaker 1: I've made my money. I'm going to go relax now,
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Speaker 1: I'm going to retire and chill out. And so he
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Speaker 1: distributes the shares of the company to his three sons, Aldo,
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Speaker 1: Vasco and Rodolfo and from there on then so the
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Speaker 1: brand launches its first global tagline, Quality is Remembered long
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Speaker 1: after price is forgotten, and Guccio Gucci passes away in
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Speaker 1: Milan on the second of January nineteen fifty three. Ten
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Speaker 1: months later, the very first Gucci store opens in the
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Speaker 1: United States, and throughout the sixties and seventies, you know
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Speaker 1: when they're making stuff for people like Jackie Kennedy and
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Speaker 1: Grace Kelly, like they're opening stores in Tokyo and la
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Speaker 1: and London. They're just everywhere. So Gucci has become this
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Speaker 1: international global luxury brand, the brand of movie stars and
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Speaker 1: princesses and first ladies. It is the thing. And now
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Speaker 1: that we know all about good sh let's get into
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Speaker 1: the main character of every story.
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Speaker 3: Patricia Patricia Reggiana Martinelli was born in Vignola in the
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Speaker 3: province of Modena, which is like Northernally, on the second
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Speaker 3: of December nineteen forty eight.
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Speaker 1: Her mother was a single parent, and Patricia never knew
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Speaker 1: who her biological father was, so when she was growing up, Patricia,
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Speaker 1: she grew up dirt poor. The girl knew poverty. When
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Speaker 1: she's about twelve years old, her mom marries this entrepreneur
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Speaker 1: Fdnando Reggiani, who basically made his money in trucking, so
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Speaker 1: he was he was new money. And he also wasn't
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Speaker 1: really part of like high society or anything like that,
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Speaker 1: because you know, he worked for his money anyway. At
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Speaker 1: one point he ends up adopting Patricia and basically raises
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Speaker 1: her as his own, and very quickly Patricia becomes accustomed
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Speaker 1: to very fine things, from mink fur coat to jewels
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Speaker 1: and other such beautiful finery. She liked it, She really
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Speaker 1: did like it, and she didn't hide the fact that
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Speaker 1: she liked nice things like She is known as saying
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Speaker 1: I would rather weep in a rolls Royce than be
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Speaker 1: happy on a bicycle, which is fair enough, each to
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Speaker 1: their own. The next exciting member in this story is
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Speaker 1: Marizio Gucci. Marizio Gucci. He was born in Florence on
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Speaker 1: the twenty sixth of September nineteen forty eight, and he's
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Speaker 1: the only son of Rodolfo Gucci and Sandra ravel So.
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Speaker 1: Rodolfo and Sandra, they were both actors in the movie
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Speaker 1: Biz Like. His parents actually met on the set of
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Speaker 1: a movie together in the Dark. Marizio he's the only
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Speaker 1: son of these two, and his mother dies when he's
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Speaker 1: five years old from uterine cancer, and his dad becomes
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Speaker 1: incredibly protective of him. So in nineteen seventy there's a
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Speaker 1: high society party in Milan and Maritzio and Patricia their
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Speaker 1: eyes luck across. I don't know a dance floor, I
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Speaker 1: don't know some more devs hymns to say, but they
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Speaker 1: see each other and they're like, damn, Marizzio, he's you know,
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Speaker 1: he's from Florence. He doesn't really know anybody. He's kind
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Speaker 1: of shy again because his dad was so overprotective of him.
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Speaker 1: And unlike the you know, the typical socialites of the time,
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Speaker 1: Patricia was strong, world exciting, you know, not the wilting
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Speaker 1: wallflower or like the trophy wife so she's you know,
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Speaker 1: she's got a good few suitors. People are really interested
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Speaker 1: in her. At this point, Maurrizzio he sees her and
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Speaker 1: he's like, she looks like Elizabeth Taylor. Who is she?
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Speaker 1: I need to know her? So he chases her and
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Speaker 1: they start saying each other. When they're both like twenty
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Speaker 1: four ish, they get married in nineteen seventy two. Here's
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Speaker 1: the thing, Rodolpho, he wasn't super happy about this union,
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Speaker 1: shall we say. He was quoted as saying that Petrizio
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Speaker 1: was a social climber who has nothing in mind but money. Effectively,
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Speaker 1: he was calling her a gold digger. Yeah, and but
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Speaker 1: that doesn't stop him from gifting his son and daughter
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Speaker 1: in law a luxury penthouse in New York's Olympic Tower.
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Speaker 1: So when they move to New York, they are the
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Speaker 1: it crowd. They are mingling with the who's who of
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Speaker 1: New York society. The celebrities of the time, I mean
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Speaker 1: themselves were probably seen as the celebrities of the time.
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Speaker 1: Marizzio had always felt kind of confined by the overprotectingness
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Speaker 1: of his father and his constrictive upbringing and the rules
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Speaker 1: of who he was supposed to be is part of,
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Speaker 1: you know, the Gucci hierarchy. And when he meets and
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Speaker 1: marries and lives with Patricia, he's free, like he gets
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Speaker 1: to live his life and be himself. Rodolfo, he does
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Speaker 1: sort of meil about a wee bit when Maurizio and
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Speaker 1: Patricia's first daughter is born, Alessandra, and he ends up
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Speaker 1: buying the couple like a bunch of properties here and
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Speaker 1: there and everywhere, and they really were living their best lives.
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Speaker 1: When their next kid is brought a liegra, Marizzio buys
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Speaker 1: a sixty four meter wood yacht called the Creole, which
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Speaker 1: they would use to travel to private islands. So not
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Speaker 1: only did they have the Pennhouse.
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Speaker 2: In New York, they had private islands, a holiday home
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Speaker 2: in al Capulco, a farm in Connecticut, and Ascacie in
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Speaker 2: Saint Maurits like what And you know, as far as
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Speaker 2: they're concerned, everything's.
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Speaker 1: Coming up melhouse. And while he is doing whatever, he's
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Speaker 1: hanging about in their Chaufford car, sailing their bow or
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Speaker 1: being involved in business stuff. But more importantly than you know,
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Speaker 1: their relationship, Patrizia becomes the advisor from Marizio. She was
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Speaker 1: basically his business advisor. When push came to shove, like
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Speaker 1: she was the brains behind the operation. She was the
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Speaker 1: one keeping at a fault. She was the run trying
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Speaker 1: to rejuvenate and regenerate and keep Gucci at the forefront.
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Speaker 1: But then the shit hits the fan. Uh. In nineteen
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Speaker 1: eighty three, Ridolfo dies and Marizzio he inherits his father's
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Speaker 1: majority staking Gucci. He's kept fifty percent. And basically Marizzio
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Speaker 1: was mad that Gucci wasn't the high level prestige brand
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Speaker 1: it once was, you know, because it was mass producing
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Speaker 1: this and over licen, saying that he wanted to go
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Speaker 1: back to the exquisite craftsmanship the come he was built upon. Cool,
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Speaker 1: but you'll make less money that way, but all right,
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Speaker 1: And because he wanted everything to be the best of
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Speaker 1: the best, he was micro managing and mismanaging. He wasn't
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Speaker 1: listening to Patricia anymore. And he was constantly fearing with
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Speaker 1: his uncle and his cousins, who basically jointly owned the
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Speaker 1: other half. So he's fighting them for years, years and years.
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Speaker 1: So not only that, he's actually spending a fuck ton
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Speaker 1: of money, like redoing sort of the Gucci offices in
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Speaker 1: Milan and New York. He's just he's hemorrhaging money. So Patricia,
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Speaker 1: she was his right hand man effectively, so she helped
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Speaker 1: him for a takeover of the Gucci fashion house. And
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Speaker 1: so while he's fighting with his uncle and his cousins,
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Speaker 1: he's actually assisted at one point, right, Rudy Giuliani. That's right,
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Speaker 1: the same guy who was helping Trump, that motherfucker. Anyway,
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Speaker 1: So by the mid eighties, you know, things are going bad.
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Speaker 1: He manages to buy out, you know, the rest of
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Speaker 1: the Gucci fam with the help of an investment group
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Speaker 1: called Investcorp, which is Roon Seal Diamond Coat does exactly
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Speaker 1: what it says in the tin, but effectively their marriage
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Speaker 1: just disintegrates. And one night he leaves to go on
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Speaker 1: a business trip. I heard, okay, so it was either
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Speaker 1: nineteen eighty four or nineteen eighty five. I have looked
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Speaker 1: this up many, many times, and everywhere I look it's
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Speaker 1: a different date. It is either eighty four or eighty five.
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Speaker 1: It is one of those, which one I have no
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Speaker 1: fucking clue, but that's what it is. So Maritzio, he
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Speaker 1: packs an overnight bag and he gets the fuck at
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Speaker 1: a dodge and the next day Maritzio gets one of
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Speaker 1: his friends to go visit Patricia and inform her that
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Speaker 1: he was leaving her for another woman and their marriage
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Speaker 1: was over. No, not cool, so without Patricia's guidance, But
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Speaker 1: you know, when it came to the business, Patrici, I
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Speaker 1: was right, Marizzio. He just wasn't making enough money to
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Speaker 1: pay for the stuff he wanted to do, and even
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Speaker 1: his personal fortune was was slowly but surely being eviscerated,
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Speaker 1: which forced his hand, meaning that he had to sell
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Speaker 1: Gucci to Invest Corp. For one hundred and twenty million
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Speaker 1: dollars in ninety three. I think it was at some
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Speaker 1: point during this Marizio he divorces Patricia, and initially his
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Speaker 1: lawyers offer her a two and a half million dollar
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Speaker 1: divorce settlement with an additional six hundred and fifty thousand
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Speaker 1: you know, sort of spousal support thing. Per Anam, she
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Speaker 1: called the divorce settlement a mirror bowl of lentils. So
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Speaker 1: Marizzio he's moved in with the blonde Paola franc and
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Speaker 1: they're planning on getting married. Patricia is like, fuck this
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Speaker 1: for a game of soldiers and decides to do something
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Speaker 1: about it because she's wor that you know, Paula and
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Speaker 1: Marizio are going to get married, and they're gonna have kids,
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Speaker 1: which would then disinherit her daughters, and it'll be your
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Speaker 1: whole fucking thing. And also, she really didn't want another
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Speaker 1: person to be the next Missus Marizio Gucci because as
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Speaker 1: far as she was concerned, that was her fucking title.
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Speaker 1: She earned it and she was keeping it. She had
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Speaker 1: grown accustomed to a certain way of living and she
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Speaker 1: was not going to descend from that. And this is
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Speaker 1: where things get weird. So Patricia is the brain. There
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Speaker 1: is a braun involved in this, but there's also an
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Speaker 1: astrologer slash psychic. Sometimes you hear a story and you're like, no, no,
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Speaker 1: this is definitely made up. But no, there's a fucking psychic.
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Speaker 1: Marizzio and Patricia both had personal psychics, which they used
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Speaker 1: to have a battle of psychics, like they were trying
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Speaker 1: to get the juju of each other or something. I don't,
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Speaker 1: I don't what. Rich people are really fucking weird. It's
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Speaker 1: all I'm saying. Once you get money, it makes you
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Speaker 1: do lally, which makes me really comfortable because if I
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Speaker 1: ever get rich, I am just gonna I'm gonna walk
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Speaker 1: around like Bjork. I'm gonna be like such a weirdo,
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Speaker 1: but you know, a socially acceptably weirdo and eccentric, some
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Speaker 1: might say. But anyway, So Paula Franchie, she is like
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Speaker 1: freaking the fuck out because she is convinced that that
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Speaker 1: Patricia is spying on them, Like because Patricia somehow knows
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Speaker 1: everything about everyone and all their business dealings and who
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Speaker 1: they're meeting and where they're traveling, and she's constantly phoning
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Speaker 1: and leaving like abusive, threatening, harassing messages. So like there
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Speaker 1: were physical cassettes with like her threatening to kill him,
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Speaker 1: you know, which, as evidence goes, it kind of kind
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Speaker 1: of damning. Some might say. So Paula is like seriously married, CEO,
21:53
Speaker 1: you need to get a fucking bodyguard because she is
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Speaker 1: Coco Bananas and she's coming for you. And what I'd
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Speaker 1: say is like, nah, she's just a woman, and you
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Speaker 1: know we've got kids. She's not going to do anything
22:03
Speaker 1: to me, Like nah, But Patricia wasn't really into hollow threats.
22:08
Speaker 1: On the twenty seventh of March nineteen ninety five, at
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Speaker 1: about half eight in the morning, the dorman of the
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Speaker 1: Via Ballestero Rovente, where Marizio had his private office, was
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Speaker 1: outside sweeping some leaves. Marizzio walks in, saying good morning
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Speaker 1: to the dorman as he stepped in magazines in his hands,
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Speaker 1: and then Amrizzio was shot four times from behind, three
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Speaker 1: shots in the back and one in his head. Giseppe Honorado,
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Speaker 1: the dorman, he was shot in the arm, and as
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Speaker 1: Marizio is dying on the office steps, and as the
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Speaker 1: killer flees, Giuseppe crawls towards Marizzio and holds him in
22:49
Speaker 1: his arms as he passes away. So, yeah, the day
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Speaker 1: after the murder, Paulo Franci and her son Charlie, who
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Speaker 1: from her previous marriage, it was like eleven they had
23:00
Speaker 1: received an eviction notice from Patricia and what's colored and
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Speaker 1: cool ice called. The eviction papers were notarized less than
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Speaker 1: three hours after Marizio was murdered, because at the time,
23:14
Speaker 1: like if you weren't married, if you were just cohavitating,
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Speaker 1: you had like no rights. You were out in the street.
23:18
Speaker 1: Tough fucking luck. So Paula and Charlie they move out
23:22
Speaker 1: of the Corso Vnezzia apartment and when they're out Patricia
23:26
Speaker 1: moves back in with her two daughters and they basically
23:29
Speaker 1: live in this like luxury apartment for two years until
23:34
Speaker 1: an anonymous tip comes into the police because a night
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Speaker 1: portman is boasting about being the person who assassinated Mauritzio
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Speaker 1: Gucci because clearly he is not the sharpest knife and
23:47
Speaker 1: the cutlery drawer. So the police launched this sting operation
23:52
Speaker 1: to basically catch Patricia and her four accomplices. So there's
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Speaker 1: Pina Oriema, who is the astrologer slash psychic. She literally
24:06
Speaker 1: so okay, I have to pause for a second and
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Speaker 1: tell you about this woman, about this bit right here.
24:11
Speaker 1: So she referred to herself as Ridiani's clairvoyant friend, a
24:17
Speaker 1: self styled sorcerer, and a high society psychic. So basically
24:23
Speaker 1: they arrange it so that they get the psychic, the
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Speaker 1: friend of the psychic who set up the hit man,
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Speaker 1: the hit man himself, and the getaway driver to discuss
24:33
Speaker 1: the whole you know, murdering of a man on wire
24:36
Speaker 1: tapped phones, and they fucking succeed evidence wise. They have
24:41
Speaker 1: this discussion of the assassination on wire tapped phones gathered
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Speaker 1: by the police. They have a Cartier diary taken from
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Speaker 1: Patricia's home, which on the day of Marizzio's death, had
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Speaker 1: only the word paradesos, which is the Greek word for paradise.
25:01
Speaker 1: Now that I'm sorry about that in itself personally is circumstantial.
25:04
Speaker 1: Everything else, Okay, talking about the murder on the phone
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Speaker 1: to other people, granted, acceptable, But writing paradise the day
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Speaker 1: that your ex husband is murdered, when he's about to
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Speaker 1: marry another woman and destroy your legacy, egg I can
25:18
Speaker 1: I get it? I get that bit. So they've got that,
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Speaker 1: and they've also got like the many many cassettes of
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Speaker 1: her talking about how much she wants to murder Marizio.
25:31
Speaker 1: Oh yeah. Also in addition, furthermore, Patricia was talking about
25:36
Speaker 1: writing some sort of biography, a sort of a tell
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Speaker 1: all about you know, Gucci, and it would tell all
25:42
Speaker 1: their little secrets and things like that, and how it
25:45
Speaker 1: would have all these like skeletons in the closet that
25:47
Speaker 1: would absolutely destroy the house of Gucci. But anyway, the
25:51
Speaker 1: trial absolutely fucking nuts. The psychic Pina Oriema confesses to
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Speaker 1: organizing the murder along with Patricia. Her friend Ivano Savioni,
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Speaker 1: was the hotel night porter who had boasted about the killing,
26:08
Speaker 1: and he was the guy who had actually hired Benedetto
26:10
Speaker 1: Sirolo the hit man, and Orazzio Cigala, the getaway driver.
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Speaker 1: So everybody apart from the hit man, but Benedetto confesses,
26:21
Speaker 1: they're like, yep, I was involved. Shit, fuck I did it.
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Speaker 1: Shit you know in court, Patricia is like, right, okay,
26:29
Speaker 1: I'm innocent. I did want him dead, but I didn't
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Speaker 1: do it. I wasn't involved in this. This was just
26:34
Speaker 1: a crazy, random happenstance. She denies the whole thing, but
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Speaker 1: she admits to paying the psychic, but two hundred thousand quid,
26:42
Speaker 1: but not for assisting her in an assassination. Oh no, no,
26:46
Speaker 1: it was because the psychic had organized the hit and
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Speaker 1: had claimed that she was going to frame Patricia for
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Speaker 1: it if she didn't pay her, which honestly not not
26:56
Speaker 1: the best defense in the world. Doesn't help that she
26:59
Speaker 1: said that it was worth every lera good job there, Pezia,
27:03
Speaker 1: are not digging your own home. And also she admits
27:06
Speaker 1: to like asking her friends how much a hip man
27:08
Speaker 1: would cost, you know, on a casual dinner party chat
27:11
Speaker 1: and not in a I'm actually planning to murder my
27:14
Speaker 1: ex husband kind of way. Her lawyers are like desperately
27:21
Speaker 1: trying to like not get her convicted for murder. They're
27:24
Speaker 1: trying to blame the fact that she had a brain
27:27
Speaker 1: tumor removed in like ninety two, saying that this affected
27:30
Speaker 1: her personality and sort of made her you know, non
27:33
Speaker 1: compassmentus for you know, the crime. But the court's like,
27:38
Speaker 1: uh ah, she's fine. So all five get convicted. Every
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Speaker 1: single one of them is found guilty. Done, Bye bye,
27:47
Speaker 1: off you go. So Patricia, she goes. She goes to prison.
27:52
Speaker 1: In nineteen ninety seven, Patricia was sentenced to twenty nine years,
27:56
Speaker 1: and this gets reduced to like twenty six years, and
27:59
Speaker 1: sometime in the not the prison allows her to have
28:02
Speaker 1: a pet ferret to stay with her. Oh okay, cool,
28:07
Speaker 1: because that's a fun pet and not at all terrifying.
28:11
Speaker 1: Have you ever met a ferret? Ferrets are scary. If
28:14
Speaker 1: she back a ferret into her corner, it's gonna kill you.
28:16
Speaker 1: Maybe that's why she likes it, because it's like a
28:18
Speaker 1: kindred spirit. Anyway. By twenty eleven, she becomes eligible for
28:23
Speaker 1: parole under like this work release program, and Patricia refuses, saying,
28:29
Speaker 1: I have never worked a day in my life, and
28:31
Speaker 1: I'm certainly not going does start. Now that was a really,
28:34
Speaker 1: really bad Italian accent, but you get the gist. She
28:37
Speaker 1: ends up getting out in twenty sixteen for good behavior
28:41
Speaker 1: after serving eighteen years out of what was originally a
28:44
Speaker 1: twenty nine year prison sentence. So under the roles of
28:48
Speaker 1: her parole, she's currently living in Milan. She's working for
28:52
Speaker 1: this Costumes of the Way place, and she goes around
28:56
Speaker 1: shopping with her pet macaw on her shoulder, called bot.
29:00
Speaker 1: Some people say it's a pro it's amicall. Currently, Alessandra
29:05
Speaker 1: and Allegra they both live in Switzerland enjoying the fucking
29:09
Speaker 1: massive fortune they got off their dad and they cut
29:14
Speaker 1: off their mum financially, which you know is fair enough
29:17
Speaker 1: considering she organized the murderer of your father. But he So,
29:21
Speaker 1: Patricia was asked about, you know, the House of Gucci
29:24
Speaker 1: maybe coming up, and what she's mad about is the
29:29
Speaker 1: fact that Lady Gaga did not come and visit her
29:34
Speaker 1: before performing before playing her. She was like, it's just rude.
29:38
Speaker 1: She should have met me. I kind of get her point.
29:41
Speaker 1: I feel like I shouldn't, but I kind of get
29:44
Speaker 1: her point. I don't support murderer, but I do support
29:47
Speaker 1: female empowerment. Oh and Patricia, she's legally not allowed to
29:52
Speaker 1: use the surname Gucci anymore, although she maintains she's more
29:55
Speaker 1: Gucci than Gucchier. So she is back to being Patricia.
30:00
Speaker 1: But what else will happen in her future? Nobody knows
30:04
Speaker 1: him's to say, and so ends our story Patrizia Reggiane
30:09
Speaker 1: and the House of Gucci. Jesus, I just remember something.
30:13
Speaker 1: When they asked Patricia, I'm like, why she didn't just
30:17
Speaker 1: end Marizio herself? She responded with my I said, isn't
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Speaker 1: so good? I would hate to miss. So what did
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Speaker 1: we learn today? Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned.
30:30
Speaker 1: Do not trust anyone who refers to themselves as a
30:34
Speaker 1: self styled sorcerer, or anyone who feels the need to
30:37
Speaker 1: have a battle of psychics like that's just being convicted
30:42
Speaker 1: of murder doesn't ruin anyone's opportunity to be snarky, apparently,
30:46
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