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The Late Debate | 18 March · The Late Debate

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  Speaker 1: Welcome the late base.
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  Speaker 2: It's great to have your company.
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  Speaker 3: I'm James macpherson with Denika to Georgio and Caleb Bond.
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  Speaker 2: How are you both brilliant?
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  Speaker 1: Matte? I mean on a Wednesday night, where would I.
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  Speaker 4: Rather be than with James McPherson and particularly Deneka To.
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  Speaker 5: George, Oh, thank you?
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  Speaker 6: In shoes down my brain new I've been trying to
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  Speaker 6: tell these two I've got new pink shoes. Neither of
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  Speaker 6: themart of the show.
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  Speaker 2: There you go, very impree.
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  Speaker 5: I appreciate.
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  Speaker 7: How are you?
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  Speaker 3: I was doing great till like Caleb said, and particularly George.
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  Speaker 2: So we'll deal with that.
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  Speaker 1: If you're not wearing pink shoes, Jay.
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  Speaker 3: Here you go, I'll fix that tomorrow night. All right,
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  Speaker 3: here's what's coming up this evening. And you study finds
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  Speaker 3: Muslims in the UK a five times more likely to
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  Speaker 3: have a positive view of the Iranian regime than the
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  Speaker 3: general public. Maybe that explains Keir Starmer's lukewarm support for Trump.
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  Speaker 3: The BBC invites a man who identifies as a woman
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  Speaker 3: to discuss his experience of misogyny on a program called
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  Speaker 3: Women's Hour, and the man formerly known as Prince Andrew,
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  Speaker 3: has started moving into his new house. But where to
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  Speaker 3: put all those teddy bears? Full of that coming up shortly,
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  Speaker 3: but first is the cost of living crisis made worse
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  Speaker 3: by skyrocketing fuel prices, creating a new class of criminal.
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  Speaker 3: South Australian Police Commissioner Grant Stephens says the number of
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  Speaker 3: people driving off from petrol stations without paying is increasing dramatically.
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  Speaker 7: But what we have been able to track is a
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  Speaker 7: marked increase in the number of petrol drive offs in
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  Speaker 7: the last week compared to the week before. It's something
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  Speaker 7: like a thirty six thirty seven percent increase in the
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  Speaker 7: number of petrol drive offs. So it's a significant, identifiable trend.
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  Speaker 2: And here's the really interesting part of that.
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  Speaker 3: Deneka and Caleb Police say more than forty percent of
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  Speaker 3: those stealing fuel were first time offenders. So this is
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  Speaker 3: a relatively new phenomena, well at least for a lot
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  Speaker 3: of people.
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  Speaker 4: Well, and you can almost understand it in some way
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  Speaker 4: because things have become so bad, the cost of living
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  Speaker 4: is so bad and fuel has gone through the roof
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  Speaker 4: that you have people who are at their wits end
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  Speaker 4: making decisions that they've never made in their lives before.
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  Speaker 4: And of course it's illegal. You shouldn't do it. Don't steal.
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  Speaker 4: But I kind of understand what's going on here that
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  Speaker 4: these are people who probably have never stolen anything in
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  Speaker 4: their lives, would barely have contemplated stealing something, but are
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  Speaker 4: now so desperate that they need to go work or
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  Speaker 4: whatever it is, and they're stealing fuel. Look, you're going
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  Speaker 4: to get in more trouble eventually anyway if you steal fuel.
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  Speaker 4: They've got your number plate. So you should just cop
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  Speaker 4: the excessive cost of the fuel, because what you'll have
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  Speaker 4: to go through in fines and court and whatever down
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  Speaker 4: the line is going to cost you a lot more
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  Speaker 4: than the fuel would have. But I understand why it's
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  Speaker 4: happening because it's not like a lot of other things essentials, right,
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  Speaker 4: you know, if you can't afford food, you've got O
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  Speaker 4: is it oz harvest all these other mobs right that
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  Speaker 4: give out food to people who are needing, And increasingly
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  Speaker 4: the people who are going to take this food people
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  Speaker 4: who are working full time and they have a roof
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  Speaker 4: over their heads, you've got a mortgage, you've got a family,
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  Speaker 4: et cetera. It's not just homeless people. These are the
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  Speaker 4: same people, I suppose who are in the position now
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  Speaker 4: with that they feel so desperate that they're stealing fuel
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  Speaker 4: and I kind of feel sorry for them.
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  Speaker 5: I actually do too. I kind of feel sorry for
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  Speaker 5: them too.
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  Speaker 6: The South Australian Police Commissioner said that last week there
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  Speaker 6: were ninety seven first time offenders when it came to
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  Speaker 6: fuel theft. And we haven't seen this sort of thing
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  Speaker 6: since the when Russia invaded Ukraine. This is the first
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  Speaker 6: time we've seen people going absolutely berserk at the bowsers,
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  Speaker 6: people stealing fuel for the first time. Look, I don't
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  Speaker 6: condone this behavior, obviously, I don't condone theft in any way,
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  Speaker 6: but I'm with Caleb on this.
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  Speaker 5: I can see why people are doing it.
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  Speaker 6: People are trying to make ends meet, they are trying
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  Speaker 6: to feed their family.
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  Speaker 5: There's hungry mouths to feed.
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  Speaker 6: And on top of all this, on top of rising
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  Speaker 6: energy costs, there's a housing crisis, the cost of living crisis,
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  Speaker 6: groceries are going up. They've also now got issues with fuel.
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  Speaker 6: I mean even here in Sydney last week that there
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  Speaker 6: were some petrol stations that were selling it for about
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  Speaker 6: three dollars a liter in some parts.
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  Speaker 5: Of the city. I mean, it's you know, it is.
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  Speaker 5: It's absolutely out.
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  Speaker 2: Of an asking question of both of you.
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  Speaker 3: Would you feel as sympathetic if you were, say, oh,
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  Speaker 3: I don't know the owner of.
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  Speaker 2: The petrol station.
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  Speaker 3: Would you still be just understand why people do this?
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  Speaker 3: They can't afford to drive, and it's driven these people.
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  Speaker 3: Would you be as compassionate and sympathetic if you were
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  Speaker 3: the one having to fut the bill for this?
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  Speaker 1: Of course you wouldn't.
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  Speaker 4: But but I think you could also admit the point that
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  Speaker 4: because of the cost of the product, you understand what
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  Speaker 4: he's driving the behavior.
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  Speaker 1: It doesn't mean you agree with it.
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  Speaker 4: It's simply to say that there is an obvious reason
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  Speaker 4: that you've had a significant uptick in people stealing petrol,
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  Speaker 4: and that a significant number of them are people who
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  Speaker 4: are doing it for the first time in their lives.
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  Speaker 1: If you all excuse the behavior, it's to expain it.
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  Speaker 3: If you were so badly off you can't afford fuel,
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  Speaker 3: would you resort to theft or would you have some
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  Speaker 3: people you'd say, Hey, I need some help.
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  Speaker 6: People might feel embarrassed to ask for help, Jack, so
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  Speaker 6: they rather stealing. But James, some people might genuinely feel
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  Speaker 6: and again, I don't behavior but some people might feel
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  Speaker 6: embarrassed to reach out. If you are really at your
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  Speaker 6: wits end and you are so stressed out, you don't
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  Speaker 6: know how you're going to make ends meet, you don't
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  Speaker 6: know how you're going to feed your family. Sometimes your
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  Speaker 6: pride might get in the way and you just feel
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  Speaker 6: embarrassed to even ask for help, that you resort to
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  Speaker 6: these sort of stupid measures when you are so worried
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  Speaker 6: and you're so anxious and stressed out. Again, I don't
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  Speaker 6: agree with theft. I'm not sitting here going yay, everybody,
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  Speaker 6: go and steal petrol from the bowser.
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  Speaker 5: This is fantastic.
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  Speaker 6: I'm just saying I can understand the rationale behind it.
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  Speaker 3: Theft from petrol stations cost eighty two million dollars annually.
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  Speaker 3: It's about ten thousand dollars per fuel station that is
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  Speaker 3: lost to this sort of crime. And the last time
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  Speaker 3: theft from fuel stations was this high was back in
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  Speaker 3: twenty twenty two, which of course was the start of
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  Speaker 3: the Ukrainian War. So we've seen this before, and I
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  Speaker 3: suppose we'll see a lot more of it if the
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  Speaker 3: Uranian War continues and shipping channels are continually blocked well, you.
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  Speaker 5: Know what else is going up?
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  Speaker 1: Coffee?
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  Speaker 6: Apparently the cost of coffee. I know you to, you're
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  Speaker 6: both avid coffee drinkers.
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  Speaker 2: I can't function without it.
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  Speaker 5: You can't function without as much as you want to
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  Speaker 5: cost me. Well, here's Neil. This is a Neil Perry.
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  Speaker 5: Now you might remember him as a celebrity shift.
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  Speaker 6: He's warning that, because of this potential looming recession, he
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  Speaker 6: reckons that coffee could soon cost twelve dollars. Twelve dollars
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  Speaker 6: for a cup of coffee.
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  Speaker 2: For goodness, say you know what I'm going to do,
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  Speaker 2: what I'm going to steal it.
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  Speaker 6: Look, would you honestly seriously pay twelve dollars for.
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  Speaker 5: A cup of coffee?
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  Speaker 2: Just walk into the petrol station? Get my joking.
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  Speaker 5: They're a dollar at the post seven.
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  Speaker 3: Fill it up a dollar, fill it before you pay
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  Speaker 3: for it. Right, it's the same thing as the petrol
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  Speaker 3: and you'd be very sympathetic.
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  Speaker 5: But I mean, but.
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  Speaker 6: That's actually frightening to think that it could go to
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  Speaker 6: twelve twelve already. Coffee is actually I don't drink coffee,
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  Speaker 6: but I know that sometimes you can pay up to
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  Speaker 6: six dollars.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, it's just ridiculous.
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  Speaker 3: You know, the most expensive coffee I've ever had, a
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  Speaker 3: fifty dollars cup of coffee. What in North Queensland there's
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  Speaker 3: this special coffee that.
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  Speaker 1: That's not the one that that animal poos.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, there's an animal Indonesia that eats the beans, that
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  Speaker 3: poos the beans out and then they make coffee out
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  Speaker 3: of it. And it's fifty dollars a cup.
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  Speaker 1: Now was it any good? Was it worth fifty dollars?
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  Speaker 3: It tasted like international roast, but do you know extra fegal.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, it's terrific.
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  Speaker 6: But you know, just to put it into perspective though,
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  Speaker 6: just to go to show how tough things are out
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  Speaker 6: there at the moment. And when we're talking now possibly
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  Speaker 6: twelve dollars for a cup of coffee, I mean, come on, seriously,
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  Speaker 6: have we really reached that point?
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  Speaker 5: So I think it's frightening.
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  Speaker 4: But what we haven't got to the bottom of is
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  Speaker 4: would you actually pay the twelve dollars James for a
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  Speaker 4: cup of coffee?
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  Speaker 3: My immediate instinct is no, But then when I think
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  Speaker 3: about how much I crave a cup of coffee in
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  Speaker 3: the morning, I probably would. So instead of having really,
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  Speaker 3: instead of instead of having two cups of coffee one
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  Speaker 3: in the morning, I'd have one, and that's how I'd justify.
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  Speaker 5: You to ration it out.
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  Speaker 6: But so basically, instead of paying six dollars here, six
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  Speaker 6: dollars mid morning, twelve dollars one hit done.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, Macpherson math very far.
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  Speaker 5: It's like girl math.
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  Speaker 2: Sense in girl math, and costs a lot less.
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  Speaker 5: Probably.
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  Speaker 4: Look, I think my machine at home does a decent coffee,
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  Speaker 4: and that costs a hell of a lot less than
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  Speaker 4: twelve dollars, So I might.
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  Speaker 1: Stick to doing that. To be perfectly on it, It
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  Speaker 1: wasn't all that long ago.
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  Speaker 4: You get a flat white for three bucks, you know,
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  Speaker 4: less than a five. And I mean now, anything less
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  Speaker 4: than five.
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  Speaker 1: Dollars is a pretty good deal really for a coffee.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, twelve dollars for a coffee, I'd rather pay
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  Speaker 4: twelve dollars for a pint a beer.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, you.
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  Speaker 4: Know, I suppose that'll be twenty dollars next to Yeah.
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  Speaker 6: Look out, what's there coming for you at the pubs
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  Speaker 6: as well?
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  Speaker 5: Look Out?
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  Speaker 4: This is not a real country anymore. We are not
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  Speaker 4: living in a real country. You've got to pay twelve
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  Speaker 4: dollars for coffee for goodness sake. Speaking of not living
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  Speaker 4: in a real country. People are, of course reacting to
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  Speaker 4: all of this stuff. They're not happy with the way
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  Speaker 4: politics is going. And as I've been saying for some time,
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  Speaker 4: one of.
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  Speaker 1: The first rule tests of all of this, in.
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  Speaker 4: The phenomenon we've seen in the rise of One Nation
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  Speaker 4: will be this weekend the South Australian election. Now, I'm
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  Speaker 4: sure this afternoon you watched the debate between the Premier
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  Speaker 4: of South Australia, Peter Malenowskis and the opposition leader Ashton
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  Speaker 4: Hern here on Sky News. And as Peter Malenowskus was
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  Speaker 4: walking into the Advertiser building this afternoon for the debate,
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  Speaker 4: walking out of the building was Pauline Hanson and Cory Bernardi,
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  Speaker 4: who is the leader of One Nation in South Australia,
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  Speaker 4: and they had a rather interesting little chat.
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  Speaker 5: But I hope that you know, if.
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  Speaker 6: Corey wendesay we do get seats there, quite happy work
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  Speaker 6: the Labor Party and good policy.
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  Speaker 5: For the state.
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  Speaker 4: I'm always happy to work with those that are happy
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  Speaker 4: to work with us.
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  Speaker 1: We might have seem policy, good legislation.
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  Speaker 8: We might have one violently different views on a number
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  Speaker 8: of subjects, but I'm always ready to work with those
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  Speaker 8: that would need to work.
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  Speaker 9: In the interest in the statement.
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  Speaker 1: Correct, and I wish it's safe travels back to Queensland.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, now, wasn't that an interesting little jabb again? Safe
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  Speaker 4: travels back to Queensland. And this is a point that
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  Speaker 4: mister malinowskis raised a number of times today before he
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  Speaker 4: went into that bit debate.
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  Speaker 1: Sorry I should say he stood.
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  Speaker 4: Up a oppressor and he made this point that to
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  Speaker 4: paul In Hanson is from Queensland, trying to say that
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  Speaker 4: you know, one nation isn't a South Australian party. But
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  Speaker 4: you've only got to step out onto the streets, as
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  Speaker 4: did Chris Kenny today to see that Pauline Hanson and
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  Speaker 4: Corey Bernardi were mobbed by people. This is a little
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  Speaker 4: bit of Corey talking to Chris Kenny this afternoon.
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  Speaker 9: It's a disgrace and a lot of people have said
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  Speaker 9: that were really offended when the premier started punching down
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  Speaker 9: on carers in the elderly and saying we had to
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  Speaker 9: import people to effectively wipe their bums. And now we've
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  Speaker 9: got a minister that's punching down on people because they're
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  Speaker 9: saying there's something wrong with what their government's been doing.
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  Speaker 9: People have been left behind. It's really shocking that the
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  Speaker 9: arrogance and the entitlement of both the government and the
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  Speaker 9: opposition is showing. And I think people we're going to
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  Speaker 9: vote accordingly.
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  Speaker 4: It was Andrew Jarles, the minister he was talking about,
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  Speaker 4: who gave a speech basically suggesting that One Nation was
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  Speaker 4: appealing to less educated voters. But again, I mean they
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  Speaker 4: get mobbed on the streets in Adelaide and look at
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  Speaker 4: the polls. And this was revealed at the start of
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  Speaker 4: the debate this afternoon that One Nation in the final
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  Speaker 4: advertiser you gov bowl before the election has overtaken the
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  Speaker 4: Liberal Party.
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  Speaker 1: You can see there that Labor.
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  Speaker 4: Their primary voter, has gone up one percent to thirty
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  Speaker 4: eight percent. One Nations on twenty two percent and the
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  Speaker 4: Liberals are down one percent to nineteen percent. There's a
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  Speaker 4: very real possibility, and this is what will be so
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  Speaker 4: interesting about Saturday night, because we'll get a feel for
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  Speaker 4: where preferences might flow from one nation, how much of
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  Speaker 4: that goes through to the lives, and how much of
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  Speaker 4: it goes through to labor, which will give us an
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  Speaker 4: idea of where where the One Nation verte is coming
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  Speaker 4: from and I preface all of this by saying that
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  Speaker 4: people vote differently in federal and state elections, but there
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  Speaker 4: are great similarities between the Federal Liberal Party and the
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  Speaker 4: South Australian Liberal Party in the fact that the South
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  Speaker 4: Australian Liberal Party is basically just non existent at the moment.
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  Speaker 4: People don't trust it, they don't see any viable option
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  Speaker 4: in it right, which is the same as what has
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  Speaker 4: happened federally.
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  Speaker 1: But we could by this time next.
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  Speaker 4: Week be talking about the fact that there is no
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  Speaker 4: longer a Liberal opposition in South Australia.
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  Speaker 1: We could be talking about a one nation opposition.
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  Speaker 4: If they get seats in the Lower House, they could
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  Speaker 4: have more seats than the Liberal Party and be the
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  Speaker 4: official opposition. That would be an extraordinary turnative into Australian policy.
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  Speaker 6: I think that this is going to be a very
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  Speaker 6: telling election, as will the Pharah by election as well,
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  Speaker 6: because this will be the first time we actually are
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  Speaker 6: able to see whether or not the polling that we've
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  Speaker 6: been seeing at federal and state levels across the country,
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  Speaker 6: whether or not it's actually correct. Is one nation actually
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  Speaker 6: doing well? And where does the Liberal Party poll? I mean,
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  Speaker 6: there was a poll recently that showed that Angus Taylor
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  Speaker 6: was making up ground.
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  Speaker 5: But the thought of a possible opposition.
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  Speaker 6: Being one nation, I mean, that's extraordinary, But we are
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  Speaker 6: I don't think we can be surprised by this because
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  Speaker 6: the blueprint is happening over in the UK right now
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  Speaker 6: with reform. Look how well Nigel Farage has performed in
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  Speaker 6: certain areas, and this is the trajectory that one nation
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  Speaker 6: is certainly going on. So I'm not surprised. The other
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  Speaker 6: thing is, you know Andrew Giles out there today, and
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  Speaker 6: this is the problem with a lot of Labor politicians
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  Speaker 6: and coalition for that matter, they're all taking jabs at
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  Speaker 6: Pauline Hanson. Well that suggests to me one that they
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  Speaker 6: are very very threatened by the success of the party.
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  Speaker 6: But two, when they say that she is divisive, or
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  Speaker 6: they fire shots at her like they keep doing, it
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  Speaker 6: actually only emboldens her and it actually emboldens her base.
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  Speaker 6: So these sorts of petty attacks do absolutely nothing. They're
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  Speaker 6: better off are they not working with one nation, working together,
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  Speaker 6: working on better preference.
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  Speaker 5: It's otherwise who does this benefit Labor?
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  Speaker 2: So the.
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  Speaker 3: Good wishes towards Pauline Hanson from the South Australian premier
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  Speaker 3: have a safe flight back to Queensland, which was not
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  Speaker 3: good wishes at all.
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  Speaker 2: That was very much a political.
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  Speaker 3: Statement reminding everybody this is a South Australian election.
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  Speaker 2: She's a banana bender.
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  Speaker 3: Might have cut through if there wasn't Corey Bernardi, a
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  Speaker 3: well recognized, well regarded face of the party who is
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  Speaker 3: a local. Moving to the Victorian state election that's coming
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  Speaker 3: up later in the year, how important do you think
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  Speaker 3: it is that Pauline Hanson finds a Corey Bernardi in
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  Speaker 3: Victoria because at the moment none of us could name
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  Speaker 3: I mean you probably could, but most people could not
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  Speaker 3: name a One Nation person in Victoria. But most of
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  Speaker 3: Australia would be aware of Corey Bernardi. So they've got
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  Speaker 3: to find someone to hang their hat on.
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  Speaker 4: It's vital because of course you wouldn't say if the
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  Speaker 4: Prime Minister rocked up during the campaign and was campaigning
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  Speaker 4: with Melanie, you know, you wouldn't have the Opposition leader
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  Speaker 4: turning around and saying save flight back to New South Wales,
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  Speaker 4: suggesting that the Labor Party was run out of New
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  Speaker 4: South Wales.
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  Speaker 1: Because the major parties have.
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  Speaker 4: Clear delineation between their state branches and this I've said
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  Speaker 4: this for a long time since this started. One thing
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  Speaker 4: that one nation has to be really careful about is
• 15:19
  Speaker 4: that it moves beyond it just being the party of
• 15:22
  Speaker 4: Pauline Hanson, because if they do want to work effectively
• 15:25
  Speaker 4: in the States, they kind of have to let the
• 15:27
  Speaker 4: states run their own race, just as the South Australian
• 15:31
  Speaker 4: Liberal Party operates, says it wants to operate and the
• 15:33
  Speaker 4: Victorians do their thing and the Queenslanders do their thing.
• 15:36
  Speaker 4: If it's all run centrally, you will run into that
• 15:39
  Speaker 4: trouble of someone in Queensland trying to dictate what goes
• 15:42
  Speaker 4: on in another state, and that won't necessarily work. They
• 15:45
  Speaker 4: do need to have freedom and they do need to
• 15:47
  Speaker 4: have a good figurehead in each state if they're going
• 15:49
  Speaker 4: to do that.
• 15:50
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 15:50
  Speaker 6: Absolutely, And one thing that Paul Enhnson is very strong
• 15:52
  Speaker 6: on is of course immigration and mass immigration and people
• 15:56
  Speaker 6: that were bringing into this country, which takes us to
• 15:59
  Speaker 6: the now.
• 16:00
  Speaker 5: Where would you believe it?
• 16:01
  Speaker 6: About forty percent of British Muslims have a positive view
• 16:06
  Speaker 6: towards Iran's murderous regime than the general public. In fact,
• 16:10
  Speaker 6: about five times they're five times more likely too. That's
• 16:15
  Speaker 6: according to a new poll which found almost two and
• 16:18
  Speaker 6: five Muslims in the UK hold a favorable view of
• 16:21
  Speaker 6: the Iranian regime, compared to eight percent of the wider public.
• 16:25
  Speaker 6: British Muslims also have a plus twenty two net favorability
• 16:29
  Speaker 6: rating towards the dictatorship as you can see they're on
• 16:31
  Speaker 6: your screen in Tehran, while minus forty two percent for
• 16:36
  Speaker 6: the rest of the British population. And it also found
• 16:39
  Speaker 6: seventeen percent of the public considered the US and Israeli
• 16:42
  Speaker 6: strikes on Iran to be definitely wrong, compared to fifty
• 16:46
  Speaker 6: percent of British Muslims.
• 16:48
  Speaker 5: And Muslims in the.
• 16:49
  Speaker 6: UK are far more hostile towards the US and Israel,
• 16:52
  Speaker 6: while they are much warmer would you believe towards China
• 16:57
  Speaker 6: and Russia?
• 16:58
  Speaker 5: Now? Am I prize by this?
• 17:01
  Speaker 6: No, I'm absolutely not surprised by this, And all I
• 17:04
  Speaker 6: can say is hello and wake up to the West.
• 17:08
  Speaker 5: Is this not a stark warning?
• 17:11
  Speaker 6: Now we'll preface by saying the majority of Muslims do
• 17:13
  Speaker 6: live peacefully.
• 17:14
  Speaker 5: Okay, let's put that out of the way.
• 17:16
  Speaker 6: But is this not a warning when you've got about
• 17:18
  Speaker 6: forty percent of those surveyed in favor of a murderous
• 17:22
  Speaker 6: regime which has adopted a shoot to kill policy on
• 17:25
  Speaker 6: its own citizens, has murdered innocent civilians, its own people,
• 17:31
  Speaker 6: beats women for showing their face in public, hangs gay people.
• 17:35
  Speaker 6: I mean, we're talking the worst of the worst here,
• 17:38
  Speaker 6: state sponsor of terror, a supporter of HESBLA, the hooty rebels,
• 17:44
  Speaker 6: and they're in favor of it. Now is this is
• 17:47
  Speaker 6: not another example of the types of people we're bringing
• 17:50
  Speaker 6: into Western democracies, of people whose values do not align
• 17:54
  Speaker 6: with a Western democracy. And this is why we need
• 17:56
  Speaker 6: to have a more broader conversation about mass immigration, about
• 18:00
  Speaker 6: the suitability of people that we're bringing into the country
• 18:02
  Speaker 6: and whether or not their values do align.
• 18:04
  Speaker 5: I actually find this quite frightening.
• 18:06
  Speaker 6: I don't know about the two of you, but when
• 18:07
  Speaker 6: you're talking about forty percent of people saying yeah, this
• 18:10
  Speaker 6: is all absolutely fantastic, Britain is eroded. What has happened
• 18:15
  Speaker 6: to Britain because it is no longer Britain at its best.
• 18:18
  Speaker 5: It has been.
• 18:19
  Speaker 6: Eroded by tribes of people being brought in who just
• 18:22
  Speaker 6: do not align.
• 18:23
  Speaker 3: It makes you wonder how Britain survives when you've got
• 18:27
  Speaker 3: such a division in terms of who people support, I mean,
• 18:32
  Speaker 3: naturally your allegiance would be with other Western liberal democracies,
• 18:36
  Speaker 3: not with Islamic totalitarian regimes. But when you've got a significant, small,
• 18:41
  Speaker 3: but still significant group of people who prefer an Islamist regime,
• 18:46
  Speaker 3: that signals major problems now and massive problems down the track.
• 18:50
  Speaker 3: Pure Research a while back said that on current trends, England,
• 18:54
  Speaker 3: which is now seven percent Muslim, will be twenty percent
• 18:58
  Speaker 3: Muslim by twenty fifty. Well, can you imagine the trouble
• 19:02
  Speaker 3: any government would have in twenty fifty making decisions on
• 19:06
  Speaker 3: who to support in a international conflict when it's not
• 19:10
  Speaker 3: forty percent of seven people but forty percent of twenty percent.
• 19:15
  Speaker 3: They've got some major problems in the UK. I'm not
• 19:17
  Speaker 3: sure how they soort this out.
• 19:19
  Speaker 4: Demographics are destiny basically marks fine, and you look at
• 19:23
  Speaker 4: the numbers for the other countries you mentioned. Russia was
• 19:28
  Speaker 4: plus two percent favorability amongst British Muslims versus minus fifty
• 19:33
  Speaker 4: two percent for the rest of Britain. China was plus
• 19:38
  Speaker 4: twenty two for Muslims versus minus twenty two for the
• 19:41
  Speaker 4: rest of the country. And then you look at the UK,
• 19:44
  Speaker 4: for which Muslims had a net favorability rating of plus
• 19:48
  Speaker 4: twenty five, so the UK rates plus twenty five, China
• 19:51
  Speaker 4: rates plus twenty two, in Iran rates plus twenty two,
• 19:55
  Speaker 4: so they only just like the UK more than they
• 19:59
  Speaker 4: like and Iran, which kind of begs the question, what
• 20:03
  Speaker 4: are they doing living in the UK and not China
• 20:06
  Speaker 4: or Iran.
• 20:07
  Speaker 3: The iron If they lived in China, they'd be persecuted exactly, Goverment.
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: They're one of the biggest persecutors of muslim indexactly, so
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: it makes no sense.
• 20:15
  Speaker 4: And this is the thing is that you know, it's
• 20:17
  Speaker 4: we should note the majority of muslim sixty one percent
• 20:20
  Speaker 4: of them do not have a favorable view of Iran,
• 20:25
  Speaker 4: which is great, but thirty nine percent is a sizeable
• 20:28
  Speaker 4: chunk of people. It is a big number of people,
• 20:32
  Speaker 4: and you have to take that into account and we
• 20:35
  Speaker 4: have to be able to note this without people jumping
• 20:37
  Speaker 4: up and down saying is Lamophobia, which I'm sure in
• 20:40
  Speaker 4: the UK they'll be having these discussions over the next
• 20:42
  Speaker 4: few days because that's how it will be framed.
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: You can't we can't mention that, we can't talk about that.
• 20:47
  Speaker 4: Well, we have to have these discussions because it is
• 20:50
  Speaker 4: real and it is right in front of our faces.
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: Okay, so what we're considering interesting stats from the UK.
• 20:55
  Speaker 3: You have look at this one concerning hate crimes. Now,
• 20:58
  Speaker 3: of course hate crimes have been a major issue for
• 21:01
  Speaker 3: some time in the UK, particularly but especially since the
• 21:04
  Speaker 3: war in Iran began. The number of hate crimes has
• 21:08
  Speaker 3: increased exponentially. But statistics from the Home Office revealed that
• 21:12
  Speaker 3: when it comes to complaints about hate crimes against Muslims,
• 21:18
  Speaker 3: the prosecution rate is about six point seven percent. So
• 21:22
  Speaker 3: six point seven percent of complaints regarding hate crimes directed
• 21:26
  Speaker 3: at Muslims result in prosecution. What do you reckon the
• 21:31
  Speaker 3: prosecution rate is for hate crimes reported against members.
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: Of the Jewish community.
• 21:36
  Speaker 3: Well, it's almost exactly half, just three point eight percent. Now,
• 21:41
  Speaker 3: no explanation as to the disparity has been offered. I
• 21:46
  Speaker 3: could suggest a couple. It seems like political pressure would
• 21:50
  Speaker 3: probably be a thing the Muslim community in the UK especially,
• 21:56
  Speaker 3: we're seeing parts of it here in Australia now very
• 21:58
  Speaker 3: well organized.
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: There's also the public perception.
• 22:02
  Speaker 3: Of Islamophobia being a major problem. Every time there's an
• 22:07
  Speaker 3: Islamist terror attack, you only have to count down from
• 22:10
  Speaker 3: ten before some politician will talk about the dangers of Islamophobia.
• 22:14
  Speaker 3: So there's the perception issue. And then we just did
• 22:17
  Speaker 3: a story the other night about members of the Home
• 22:19
  Speaker 3: Office being in the Iranian Embassy celebrating the Islamic Revolution
• 22:23
  Speaker 3: in Iran. Since that story appeared, there's been more reports
• 22:28
  Speaker 3: of people concerned with Islamists propagating right through the public
• 22:32
  Speaker 3: service in the UK. That was an article in The
• 22:34
  Speaker 3: Times today. So there's a few factors I think that
• 22:37
  Speaker 3: feed into this. I don't know how much weight you
• 22:38
  Speaker 3: can put on any of those in particular, but how
• 22:42
  Speaker 3: do you explain twice the number of prosecutions for Islamophobic
• 22:47
  Speaker 3: complaints as compared anti Semitic Well.
• 22:51
  Speaker 6: I was also thinking it could be institutional bias, and
• 22:54
  Speaker 6: I think that there needs to be an investigation into this.
• 22:56
  Speaker 6: Is there an issue at the top of the Crown
• 22:59
  Speaker 6: Prosecution serve over in the UK?
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: Right?
• 23:02
  Speaker 6: Is there some sort of institutional bias where they want
• 23:04
  Speaker 6: to target one, you know, community over the other. I
• 23:08
  Speaker 6: don't know, but what I will say is I think
• 23:10
  Speaker 6: this needs to be urgently looked at because it says
• 23:13
  Speaker 6: here that Muslim victims was seventy six percent more likely
• 23:16
  Speaker 6: to see their perpetrator prosecuted than those of Jewish victims.
• 23:23
  Speaker 5: So seventy six percent.
• 23:25
  Speaker 6: And I was also reading this statistic Jews are almost
• 23:28
  Speaker 6: ten times more likely to be victims of religious hate crimes.
• 23:32
  Speaker 6: So you've got Jews ten times more likely, you get
• 23:35
  Speaker 6: seventy six percent of Muslim crimes compared to Jews being investigator.
• 23:39
  Speaker 6: That's a very, very big disparity. But we think about it.
• 23:43
  Speaker 6: It's happening here in Australia too. Look at labor for example.
• 23:47
  Speaker 6: Labor can't talk about anti Semitism without talking about Islamophobia.
• 23:52
  Speaker 6: It's like it just becomes the norm of no, we
• 23:54
  Speaker 6: can't upset you know, we can upset the Jews, but no,
• 23:58
  Speaker 6: we can't upset the Muslim population.
• 24:00
  Speaker 5: That's why I believe it could be institutional bias.
• 24:02
  Speaker 4: Well, I'll come to that in a second. I'll go
• 24:05
  Speaker 4: back to the numbers. So the number of hate crimes
• 24:09
  Speaker 4: recorded against Muslims four thousand, four hundred and seventy eight during.
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: The period that was assessed.
• 24:17
  Speaker 4: For Jews, it was two thousand, eight hundred and seventy three.
• 24:20
  Speaker 4: So they've recorded more hate crimes against Muslims. But to
• 24:24
  Speaker 4: the point you raised about the rate at which it occurs.
• 24:28
  Speaker 4: For Muslims, that equates to twelve hate crimes per ten
• 24:32
  Speaker 4: thousand people. For Jews it equates to one hundred and
• 24:35
  Speaker 4: six hate crimes wow per ten thousand people. So the
• 24:39
  Speaker 4: number is far and away much higher, right, And then
• 24:43
  Speaker 4: you go, okay, well, that being the case, why would
• 24:46
  Speaker 4: you not have the imperative to prosecute alleged hate crimes
• 24:50
  Speaker 4: against Jewish people harder? Because clearly it is happening at
• 24:54
  Speaker 4: a much higher rate. And the reason I think is
• 24:57
  Speaker 4: probably again it's the demographic. When you are as a
• 25:02
  Speaker 4: police force or a DPP weighing up what you're going
• 25:07
  Speaker 4: to spend your time and money, on your resources on,
• 25:10
  Speaker 4: there are many things you have to consider, including are
• 25:14
  Speaker 4: there other more pressing cases that we should deal with,
• 25:17
  Speaker 4: what is most in the public interest, what's going to
• 25:19
  Speaker 4: get the most publicity from the media, because that then
• 25:22
  Speaker 4: sends a message to other people. And in a country well,
• 25:26
  Speaker 4: as is true pretty much every country except Israel, where
• 25:29
  Speaker 4: the Muslim population is much higher than the Jewish population,
• 25:33
  Speaker 4: there is an imperative somewhat political to prosecute those crimes
• 25:39
  Speaker 4: faster and more often. I would have thought, because you've
• 25:43
  Speaker 4: simply got more people to send that message to that
• 25:45
  Speaker 4: you're dealing with it. It's almost like, well, because you're
• 25:49
  Speaker 4: Jewish and you are a smaller population, you are less
• 25:51
  Speaker 4: of a priority. That's the reason, the only reason I
• 25:54
  Speaker 4: can really read into, why you wouldn't go harder on it.
• 25:57
  Speaker 5: Well, I mean, what message does that send to dus?
• 26:00
  Speaker 6: You know, Jews since October seven have feared for their
• 26:03
  Speaker 6: lives every single day, and now there are genuine hate
• 26:07
  Speaker 6: crimes going on in the United Kingdom and around the world.
• 26:10
  Speaker 5: In the UK though, against.
• 26:11
  Speaker 6: Jews, and it's almost like their allegations or their claims
• 26:15
  Speaker 6: are just sort of fobbed off as not important. Yet
• 26:20
  Speaker 6: you know, they're the ones who have got police and
• 26:22
  Speaker 6: armed guards outside of synagogues. They're the ones who have
• 26:25
  Speaker 6: got security twenty four to seven. I just what does
• 26:29
  Speaker 6: that say to Jews? What message are you sending to
• 26:33
  Speaker 6: the Jewish population?
• 26:34
  Speaker 4: Well, on a related matter, yesterday was Saint Patrick's Day,
• 26:37
  Speaker 4: and I know you're scratching, He goes, how on earth
• 26:39
  Speaker 4: are those two related?
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: Well, do I have this story for you?
• 26:43
  Speaker 4: Someone has found a way to connect what's going on
• 26:47
  Speaker 4: in the Middle East to Saint Patrick's Day. Yes, I
• 26:49
  Speaker 4: mean here, I was thinking it was just a nice
• 26:53
  Speaker 4: day to celebrate Irish music and drink guinness.
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: But no, Zora and.
• 26:57
  Speaker 4: Mum Dani, the Mayor of New York had on Saint
• 27:01
  Speaker 4: Patrick's Day visiting him the former Irish President Mary Robinson,
• 27:05
  Speaker 4: and lickety split, he managed to turn his speech into
• 27:09
  Speaker 4: one about Palestine.
• 27:11
  Speaker 10: As we've witnessed a genocide unfold before our eyes, there
• 27:14
  Speaker 10: has been deafening silence from so many for those who
• 27:17
  Speaker 10: have long cared about universal human rights and the extension
• 27:20
  Speaker 10: of them to Palestinians. Silence, however, is nothing new, for
• 27:24
  Speaker 10: Palestinians are so often left to weep alone. The story
• 27:27
  Speaker 10: of the Irish, both in Ireland and in New York City,
• 27:31
  Speaker 10: is at one time a story of oppression, of subjugation,
• 27:33
  Speaker 10: and of discrimination. As we know it was on Irish
• 27:36
  Speaker 10: soil that the British Empire developed their colonial project.
• 27:42
  Speaker 4: I mean, come on, yes, I know that Irish people
• 27:45
  Speaker 4: have been pressed and discriminated against, but come on, it's
• 27:49
  Speaker 4: Saint Patrick's Day.
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: The Irish get a day and Zora and mum Dani.
• 27:54
  Speaker 4: Has to turn it into some Palestine like, can't wait,
• 27:58
  Speaker 4: we don't have to weave every every thing into something
• 28:01
  Speaker 4: to do with the Middle Eagle.
• 28:02
  Speaker 3: I'm trying to work out is he the mayor of
• 28:04
  Speaker 3: New York or is he the ambassador for Palestine in America.
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: Some people have taken to calling him Quran Zoran.
• 28:12
  Speaker 3: But you know, the thing, of course he fails to
• 28:15
  Speaker 3: mention as a man who's very compassionate for the oppressed,
• 28:19
  Speaker 3: is right now, there's quite a few oppressed Muslims in Iran.
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: No mention of them at all.
• 28:26
  Speaker 3: And of course, the other thing he failed to mention
• 28:28
  Speaker 3: on Saint Patrick's day is that the Irish who moved
• 28:30
  Speaker 3: to America very much assimilated and became part of the
• 28:35
  Speaker 3: United States in every way, unlike what is happening, not
• 28:38
  Speaker 3: with all, but with a significant number of Muslims in
• 28:42
  Speaker 3: the US. Mamdami not least of them.
• 28:45
  Speaker 6: No, And you know what I reckon that you would
• 28:47
  Speaker 6: never want to invite Zora and Mamdame into your party,
• 28:50
  Speaker 6: right because what he would do is he'd always bring
• 28:52
  Speaker 6: up politics, but all he would talk about is.
• 28:54
  Speaker 5: Gaza and Palestine. I mean, the guy would be an absolute.
• 28:57
  Speaker 4: War and also he'd do a key stammer at the barbecue.
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: He'd say, release the sausages.
• 29:05
  Speaker 5: He would And you know what.
• 29:06
  Speaker 6: The other thing about Zora m Mam Darmie is, I
• 29:08
  Speaker 6: don't know if you've noticed, but he always tries to
• 29:10
  Speaker 6: out victim people. I mean, he's you know, he's at
• 29:12
  Speaker 6: an event with the Irish where really all she should
• 29:14
  Speaker 6: have been doing was chugging back a Guinness, enjoying himself toast.
• 29:19
  Speaker 5: He should just have been enjoying himself.
• 29:21
  Speaker 6: But he's gone, Okay, yes there are issues in Ireland,
• 29:24
  Speaker 6: but how can.
• 29:25
  Speaker 5: I out victim the Irish.
• 29:27
  Speaker 6: I know, I'm going to talk about Gaza and Palestine
• 29:29
  Speaker 6: because that's all he's gotten in his repertoire And it
• 29:32
  Speaker 6: was interesting because a day earlier, I just this is
• 29:34
  Speaker 6: just a point to show you that he's got no
• 29:36
  Speaker 6: idea about policy, because a day earlier he was asked
• 29:39
  Speaker 6: a question about whether he supported a unified island. So
• 29:42
  Speaker 6: this is the political push to get all thirty two
• 29:44
  Speaker 6: Irish counties to be governed as one independent nation. I mean,
• 29:48
  Speaker 6: this has been a long standing issue and his response was,
• 29:51
  Speaker 6: I gotta be honest, I haven't thought enough on that question. No,
• 29:54
  Speaker 6: of course, you haven't because your head's always in Gaza.
• 29:57
  Speaker 6: You've got no idea what you're tal talking about. Again,
• 30:00
  Speaker 6: he's got nothing on policy whatsoever.
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: Also the mayor of New York.
• 30:04
  Speaker 5: You're also the mayor of New York.
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: I don't think it's got much to do with you to.
• 30:07
  Speaker 5: No, exactly, I completely agree.
• 30:10
  Speaker 6: Well, look, we've got to talk about the BBC because
• 30:13
  Speaker 6: it is back to its old and very tiresome woke tactics.
• 30:17
  Speaker 6: This time it has invited a biological man who now
• 30:21
  Speaker 6: identifies as a woman onto one of its programs to
• 30:24
  Speaker 6: talk about, ready for it, female misogyny. Yes, the guest
• 30:29
  Speaker 6: was Raewyan Connell. Her name is This is actually an
• 30:32
  Speaker 6: Australian female sociologist and a transgender woman who now studies
• 30:36
  Speaker 6: gender relations and masculinity. Now, firstly, a trans person speaking
• 30:40
  Speaker 6: about female misogyny is one thing. But the segment also
• 30:43
  Speaker 6: aired during the BBC's Women's Our program. That's another problem altogether. Now,
• 30:48
  Speaker 6: the presenter of the program, Nuela McGovern, introduced debate explaining
• 30:52
  Speaker 6: how discussions to tackle extreme misogyny were sparked online following
• 30:57
  Speaker 6: a Netflix series by Louis Thrue called Inside the Manisphere. Now,
• 31:01
  Speaker 6: just to give you a brief rundown. It talks about
• 31:04
  Speaker 6: like toxic masculinity, for example. So think you know Andrew Tait.
• 31:08
  Speaker 6: And here was Raywan Connell's answer, riemand let me begin
• 31:12
  Speaker 6: with you, how would you describe the manisphere.
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: As a business.
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: In a way, it's the market. There is boys and
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: young men, as you've said, who are facing difficulties finding
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: a path in life.
• 31:31
  Speaker 5: And we're led to believe that that's a woman. Apparently.
• 31:34
  Speaker 6: Now Connor was asked whether they had noticed any differences
• 31:37
  Speaker 6: between misogyny prior to transitioning, and to share the response,
• 31:42
  Speaker 6: I think that's unquestionable and usual for trans women. They
• 31:44
  Speaker 6: discover some realities that other women have long experienced, like
• 31:48
  Speaker 6: harassment on the street, suspicion, a general atmosphere of being marginalized.
• 31:52
  Speaker 5: That kind of thing is familiar enough.
• 31:54
  Speaker 6: The BBC, as you can imagine, have received a wave
• 31:56
  Speaker 6: of complaints.
• 31:57
  Speaker 5: Now, riddle me this.
• 31:59
  Speaker 6: More than half of the population are female and the
• 32:02
  Speaker 6: best the BBC could do was bring on a biological
• 32:05
  Speaker 6: man who now identifies as a woman onto their Women's
• 32:07
  Speaker 6: Hour program to talk about misogyny. As a female myself,
• 32:11
  Speaker 6: I am offended by this that bringing a biological man
• 32:15
  Speaker 6: onto a program that is misogyny.
• 32:17
  Speaker 5: Do you want to know why?
• 32:18
  Speaker 6: Because it actually is another example of why women are
• 32:21
  Speaker 6: being raised. When you've got a man who's put on
• 32:24
  Speaker 6: address and lipstick and then identifies as a woman, right,
• 32:28
  Speaker 6: that is to me offensive, Stop trying to raise women.
• 32:33
  Speaker 5: And secondly, this talk of misogyny and the way this
• 32:36
  Speaker 5: Raylen Raewan.
• 32:37
  Speaker 6: Connell responded, it's such an old fashioned ideal of misogyny.
• 32:41
  Speaker 6: I am so sick to death of men being destroyed
• 32:46
  Speaker 6: and diminished in life. I'm very lucky to know a
• 32:49
  Speaker 6: lot of wonderful men, and I know that is not
• 32:51
  Speaker 6: the same for every single woman out there. But stop
• 32:54
  Speaker 6: attacking men for the sake of it, and for goodness sake,
• 32:58
  Speaker 6: bringing a trans person on to all so attack men.
• 33:01
  Speaker 4: Come on, I'm glad you clarified that you're female, because
• 33:04
  Speaker 4: of course these these.
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: Things require clarification.
• 33:07
  Speaker 4: But you know, once again more proof that men are
• 33:09
  Speaker 4: better than everything there, everything than women. And who better
• 33:14
  Speaker 4: to talk about misogyny than a man?
• 33:17
  Speaker 3: Isn't inviting a man onto Women's Hour to talk about
• 33:21
  Speaker 3: misogyny the height of misogyny exactly?
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: That's right there. The irony is iron so damn thick,
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: isn't it? And I don't know whether they realize it
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: or not.
• 33:32
  Speaker 4: I mean, I think they're probably quite earnest in doing
• 33:34
  Speaker 4: all of this because they think, well, you know, like
• 33:37
  Speaker 4: a trans woman is a woman, so they must be
• 33:39
  Speaker 4: experiencing misogyny, and it's the same thing.
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: It's not. So it lets you in on the secret
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: it's not, but it's not.
• 33:45
  Speaker 6: How would they know what life is like as a woman.
• 33:48
  Speaker 6: How would you know that you're not born as a woman.
• 33:50
  Speaker 6: How would you know? How can you speak on behalf
• 33:52
  Speaker 6: of women play?
• 33:53
  Speaker 3: I'm sure what he said about being marginalized and harassed
• 33:56
  Speaker 3: is all true in this person's case. The problem was
• 34:00
  Speaker 3: like all women that It was that sentence, you can't
• 34:03
  Speaker 3: say what it's like to be.
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: A woman because you're not.
• 34:06
  Speaker 3: Let's talk about another man who's making headlines all around
• 34:08
  Speaker 3: the world, the man formerly known as Prince Andrew. He's
• 34:11
  Speaker 3: moving into his new digs, having been kicked out of
• 34:14
  Speaker 3: the old joint. He's had to downsize, but the move
• 34:17
  Speaker 3: has started. And the big question, of course, that is
• 34:21
  Speaker 3: plaguing the former Prince Andrew is what to do about
• 34:24
  Speaker 3: his collection of sixty very expensive teddy bears. A source
• 34:31
  Speaker 3: close to Andrew says that he has complained it really
• 34:37
  Speaker 3: seems like being forced to move has sent him into
• 34:40
  Speaker 3: a full on meltdown because he keeps telling people the
• 34:43
  Speaker 3: Bears won't cope with the change. It's like he's transferring
• 34:47
  Speaker 3: his own emotions onto them the way a.
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: Little kid would.
• 34:50
  Speaker 3: In fact, he has complained that he shouldn't be made
• 34:53
  Speaker 3: to move because quote unquote, this is the bears home.
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: Two.
• 34:57
  Speaker 5: Oh, there's very wrong about this.
• 34:59
  Speaker 3: Isn't that it's iron Forget the Epstein stuff. That's the
• 35:02
  Speaker 3: reason why he should not be in the succession line
• 35:05
  Speaker 3: to become King of Australia.
• 35:06
  Speaker 6: No well, I read today that apparently his teddy collection,
• 35:10
  Speaker 6: which is over seventy has got over seventy bears. Apparently
• 35:13
  Speaker 6: it's under twenty four hour guard. However, in good news,
• 35:17
  Speaker 6: Andrew has taken his cuddling monkey with him, apparently.
• 35:21
  Speaker 4: Because the rest have gone into storage. He can't he
• 35:23
  Speaker 4: isn't gon room for them, he said, to put them
• 35:25
  Speaker 4: into storage. I wonder whether they'll be getting this sort
• 35:27
  Speaker 4: of treatment in the storage container.
• 35:33
  Speaker 5: Where does he go rou as in Kanga put them together?
• 35:40
  Speaker 7: What's you get.
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: Who Kanga go away.
• 35:48
  Speaker 4: From the film scoop and this is apparently how he's
• 35:51
  Speaker 4: very particular.
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: About how they will get lined up on the Bear.
• 35:55
  Speaker 4: I mean, for goodness sake, how's he going to cope
• 35:57
  Speaker 4: with all of these Teddy Bears?
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: I wonder will he go and visit them in the.
• 36:01
  Speaker 5: I wonder if I wonder if he and Epstein ever
• 36:02
  Speaker 5: shared Teddy's.
• 36:05
  Speaker 3: If only that was his biggest problem. We're going to
• 36:07
  Speaker 3: go to a break. When we come back, we'll look
• 36:09
  Speaker 3: at what's making headlines tomorrow, including the updated Australia's rich list,
• 36:13
  Speaker 3: who's doing well and who's little Skint will tell.
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: You after the break.
• 36:23
  Speaker 3: Okay, we'll get to what's making headlines tomorrow in just
• 36:26
  Speaker 3: a moment. But a story that dropped on the Australian
• 36:29
  Speaker 3: website about an hour ago says that Victorian Premier just
• 36:32
  Speaker 3: Into Allen's leadership is looking shaky. That's because party members
• 36:36
  Speaker 3: have started discussing internal research that should have been kept private,
• 36:41
  Speaker 3: detailing just into Ellen's popularity or lack thereof. That's in
• 36:45
  Speaker 3: terms of whether or not she should be replaced. Now
• 36:48
  Speaker 3: there is speculation that what could happen in the election
• 36:51
  Speaker 3: later this year is just into Allan loses her seat
• 36:54
  Speaker 3: in Bendigo, Labor win enough seats, well more than the Liberals,
• 36:59
  Speaker 3: but not enough to form government and then have to
• 37:01
  Speaker 3: do a deal with the Greens, which would be a
• 37:03
  Speaker 3: horrible place, not just for the state but for the
• 37:06
  Speaker 3: Labor Party obviously. And the paper reports that members are
• 37:10
  Speaker 3: now saying Jacinta Allen is one more crisis away from
• 37:14
  Speaker 3: a leadership spill. How many crises can she have before
• 37:19
  Speaker 3: she comes to an end? That's the question I've got.
• 37:22
  Speaker 3: She's like the cat that has nine lives. Dan Andrews
• 37:25
  Speaker 3: was the same. So whether or not this report is correct,
• 37:28
  Speaker 3: that one more and she's done for who knows, but
• 37:32
  Speaker 3: thin ice.
• 37:32
  Speaker 4: Dan Andrews was far better at it, that's the difference.
• 37:35
  Speaker 4: She looks like she's under pressure at the moment, particularly
• 37:38
  Speaker 4: around the CFMU stuff. Yeah, and they just they have
• 37:43
  Speaker 4: to get rid of it, and they have to get
• 37:44
  Speaker 4: rid of her fast if they want any chance. Ben
• 37:46
  Speaker 4: Carol's probably the best replacement. And if they get rid
• 37:50
  Speaker 4: of her and they go for being Carol, who is
• 37:52
  Speaker 4: Labor right as opposed to socialist left, which she is.
• 37:56
  Speaker 4: In the footsteps of Daniel Andrews. They might actually be
• 37:59
  Speaker 4: able to get Anne whose tentacles off the Victorian Labor
• 38:02
  Speaker 4: Party because she was very much Andrew's pick. She was
• 38:05
  Speaker 4: his deputy. He wanted her to succeed him. If they
• 38:09
  Speaker 4: can get as far away from that as possible, they
• 38:12
  Speaker 4: may get themselves back in a reasonable position. But as
• 38:15
  Speaker 4: it's going pol last week saying she's the most unpopular
• 38:18
  Speaker 4: premiere by a long way in the country, They're in
• 38:22
  Speaker 4: a lot of trouble and I think they need to
• 38:23
  Speaker 4: cut it off at the head.
• 38:24
  Speaker 6: Isn't this another example though, why the Liberal Party have
• 38:27
  Speaker 6: really got to keep up their campaigns, really got to
• 38:29
  Speaker 6: keep up the pressure because if this is the case,
• 38:31
  Speaker 6: if these reports are true, I think this would work
• 38:33
  Speaker 6: into the liberals favor and I think they really need
• 38:36
  Speaker 6: some sort of luck at the moment.
• 38:38
  Speaker 4: Indeed, let's take a look at the Daily Telegraph tomorrow where,
• 38:41
  Speaker 4: and this is a theme across a lot of the
• 38:43
  Speaker 4: newspapers tomorrow, what's going on with fuel? Its is dozens
• 38:46
  Speaker 4: of bars has run completely dry as crisis hits city
• 38:50
  Speaker 4: tanks for nothing. Widespread petrol station shutdowns have gone from
• 38:55
  Speaker 4: the Bush to Sydney, with multiple retailers running out of petrol.
• 38:58
  Speaker 4: Despite Energy Minister Chris Bowen repeated denials of a fuel shortage,
• 39:03
  Speaker 4: The Daily Telegraph spoke with nine Western and north Western
• 39:06
  Speaker 4: Sydney service station retailers who said they had completely run
• 39:09
  Speaker 4: out of petrol or were very close to running dry
• 39:13
  Speaker 4: as drivers rushed to bowsers with jerry kans. Prime Minister
• 39:16
  Speaker 4: Anthony Albanezi is expected to announce urgent new measures today.
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: To distribute fuel across the country.
• 39:22
  Speaker 4: And the issue is not necessarily that we don't have fuel.
• 39:26
  Speaker 4: The issue is that people are buying a lot of
• 39:28
  Speaker 4: fuel at the moment in the anticipation of the fact
• 39:32
  Speaker 4: that we might run out of fuel. That itself just
• 39:35
  Speaker 4: makes the problem even worse because you're more likely to
• 39:38
  Speaker 4: run out of fuel if you're going off and barring
• 39:40
  Speaker 4: it all in one shot. But none of this would
• 39:42
  Speaker 4: be a problem if we kept to our international obligations,
• 39:47
  Speaker 4: which is ninety days, because then we wouldn't be worrying
• 39:50
  Speaker 4: about whether or not we were going to run out
• 39:52
  Speaker 4: of fuel, and you wouldn't have this phenomenon of panic
• 39:54
  Speaker 4: bar And that's.
• 39:55
  Speaker 3: The point politicians who have blamed the public for hoarding, well,
• 39:58
  Speaker 3: people would not hoard if they had confidence in the
• 40:01
  Speaker 3: government to look after things. So spare hoarding is a
• 40:03
  Speaker 3: vote of no confidence in Cris Bowen, Anthony Albanesi and
• 40:07
  Speaker 3: the cabinet generally.
• 40:09
  Speaker 6: The other issue is Labour's language on this has been
• 40:11
  Speaker 6: very wishy washing, and I think that that's also half
• 40:13
  Speaker 6: the problem, because it's confused people. I mean, for weeks
• 40:15
  Speaker 6: Chris Bowin has been saying no, no, no, no, no,
• 40:17
  Speaker 6: don't panic, don't worry about it. But then it was
• 40:19
  Speaker 6: only a couple of days ago when Labour refused to
• 40:21
  Speaker 6: rule out fuel rationing. So no wonder people are getting
• 40:24
  Speaker 6: concerned and starting to worry about it. And if we
• 40:27
  Speaker 6: take a look as well at the Mercury tomorrow, same
• 40:31
  Speaker 6: story their fuel crisis Cabinet. Prime Minister Anthony Alberti Albanesi
• 40:35
  Speaker 6: used a visit to Bernie to outline new steps to
• 40:38
  Speaker 6: manage fuel security. Mister Albanesi announce a snap national Cabinet
• 40:41
  Speaker 6: meeting to be held virtually from Hobart today to coordinate
• 40:45
  Speaker 6: states and territories on fuel security and share best practice.
• 40:49
  Speaker 6: You know, the problem is though it's taken them weeks
• 40:51
  Speaker 6: to act, you know.
• 40:52
  Speaker 5: Weeks speak. Well, let's take it let's do a national
• 40:54
  Speaker 5: cabinet today.
• 40:55
  Speaker 6: Maybe a national cabinet might have been good maybe a
• 40:56
  Speaker 6: week and a half to two weeks ago.
• 40:58
  Speaker 5: Always late to the party.
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: Fortnight too late exactly.
• 41:02
  Speaker 3: The fuel crisis continues.
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: On which paper am I looking for?
• 41:06
  Speaker 3: Here we go the advertiser cop that your fuels.
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: I like that headline, great, isn't it very very good?
• 41:12
  Speaker 3: Now this relates to the story we did at the
• 41:15
  Speaker 3: top of the show about people stealing fuel. Service stations
• 41:19
  Speaker 3: are being encouraged to urgently implement prepaid fuel systems or
• 41:24
  Speaker 3: get a load of this. South Australian police may stop
• 41:26
  Speaker 3: accepting reports of petrol drive offs. Police Commissioner Grant Stevens
• 41:30
  Speaker 3: has warned, so the police. If I read this correctly, Caleb,
• 41:34
  Speaker 3: the police are saying, if service stations don't act to
• 41:38
  Speaker 3: put in prepaid systems, then when they report someone stealing fuel,
• 41:43
  Speaker 3: the police will say, you know what, We're too busy
• 41:46
  Speaker 3: with other things.
• 41:46
  Speaker 2: You should have sorted your systems out better.
• 41:49
  Speaker 4: Which I guess is suggesting how significant this problem has become.
• 41:53
  Speaker 4: And you can understand the cops saying, look, I've got,
• 41:56
  Speaker 4: you know, real crime as it were, that I want
• 41:58
  Speaker 4: to deal with violent crime and things like this. I
• 42:01
  Speaker 4: don't want to divert all my coppers to be dealing
• 42:03
  Speaker 4: with people who are stealing fuel, so you know, you've
• 42:06
  Speaker 4: kind of got to do something about it. And there's
• 42:08
  Speaker 4: an element of victim blaming, I guess in that. But again,
• 42:11
  Speaker 4: if you don't lock the front door to your house,
• 42:13
  Speaker 4: of course, if someone comes and rob you, you're a
• 42:15
  Speaker 4: bit of an idiot.
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: Adds you. You should have locked your front door. That's
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: what the lock is there for.
• 42:20
  Speaker 4: And the cops are simply saying, well, if you can
• 42:22
  Speaker 4: take precautionary measures, take precautionary measures because it will prevent
• 42:25
  Speaker 4: my force having to be diverted to deal with this.
• 42:28
  Speaker 5: And that's the problem.
• 42:29
  Speaker 6: They're taking officers off the beat to deal with these things.
• 42:32
  Speaker 6: I actually don't see what the problem is with the
• 42:34
  Speaker 6: prepaid system.
• 42:36
  Speaker 5: I think it's actually I actually, even if it.
• 42:38
  Speaker 6: Wasn't in a fuel crisis, I'd prefer a prepaid system
• 42:41
  Speaker 6: where I can just do it myself as opposed to
• 42:43
  Speaker 6: having to go in.
• 42:44
  Speaker 5: I think it's great.
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: I think it's kind of sad.
• 42:46
  Speaker 3: It's one of those things where you know, maybe twelve
• 42:50
  Speaker 3: months from now, pretty much every service station in the
• 42:52
  Speaker 3: country we prepaid and our kids will never remember what
• 42:55
  Speaker 3: it was like to go up and put the bit
• 42:57
  Speaker 3: like flying Like my kids have got no idea what
• 42:59
  Speaker 3: it was like to get on a plane without having
• 43:01
  Speaker 3: every bone in your body scanned. It's a fundamental change
• 43:05
  Speaker 3: in the country that doesn't say anything good about our
• 43:07
  Speaker 3: culture at all.
• 43:08
  Speaker 4: Maybe they should go back to the days of someone
• 43:10
  Speaker 4: filling up your car for you and then you love that.
• 43:12
  Speaker 4: Then you wouldn't be able to drive off with the fuel?
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: Would I love that?
• 43:15
  Speaker 5: Please?
• 43:16
  Speaker 4: Let's let's go to the front of the Australian tomorrow.
• 43:18
  Speaker 4: WI says, get this straight.
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: It's only right you help. The US Democratic.
• 43:23
  Speaker 4: Senator John Fetterman has declared Australia has a responsibility to
• 43:27
  Speaker 4: help reopen the Strait of Hormers. As Donald Trump's rebuke
• 43:30
  Speaker 4: of Australia failing to back his mission to get oil
• 43:32
  Speaker 4: flowing into the Middle East split the conservative side of politics.
• 43:36
  Speaker 4: Senior Liberal Front bencher Andrew Hasty lashed the US president's
• 43:39
  Speaker 4: petulant post on truth social in which he hit out
• 43:42
  Speaker 4: at NATO allies who didn't want to get involved in
• 43:44
  Speaker 4: America's war against Iran, but one nation MP Barnaby Joyce
• 43:48
  Speaker 4: warned the swipe raised a lot to be concerned about.
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: How interesting I mean, John Fetterman.
• 43:53
  Speaker 4: Has actually turned out, you know, despite the fact that
• 43:55
  Speaker 4: he has know how to put on a certain tie
• 43:57
  Speaker 4: and always rocks around in his trackie decks as of late,
• 44:01
  Speaker 4: turned out to be far more sensible than most of
• 44:05
  Speaker 4: his Democratic colleagues and falling to lower Trump Allard.
• 44:07
  Speaker 5: I don't know why he's a Republican.
• 44:09
  Speaker 6: To be honest, he should be a Republican because a
• 44:11
  Speaker 6: lot of his commentary is so conservative. He does not
• 44:14
  Speaker 6: suits the Democrats, but he kind of has a point here.
• 44:18
  Speaker 5: I mean, we are allies. This is a thing.
• 44:19
  Speaker 6: I don't necessarily agree with the way that Trump handled
• 44:22
  Speaker 6: the situation this morning calling out Australia.
• 44:24
  Speaker 5: I think that was very petulant.
• 44:26
  Speaker 6: But again, we're allies, and in the event that we
• 44:28
  Speaker 6: were attacked, we would be on the phone to Trump
• 44:30
  Speaker 6: quick smart.
• 44:31
  Speaker 5: We would want that support. That's the problem.
• 44:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 44:35
  Speaker 3: With regards Fentimen, I mean, it's public knowledge that he's
• 44:38
  Speaker 3: got brain damage as a result of medical issues. But
• 44:40
  Speaker 3: even with brain damage, he's still the smartest Democrat, yes,
• 44:43
  Speaker 3: in the United States, and I agree with him fully
• 44:44
  Speaker 3: we should, I mean we're relying on that straight to
• 44:47
  Speaker 3: get our petrol. Our government should be part of opening
• 44:50
  Speaker 3: that up.
• 44:51
  Speaker 4: Amazing is another story in front of the oars, richest
• 44:53
  Speaker 4: of rich and the biggest losers. Software is so old
• 44:56
  Speaker 4: hat old industries are back in fashion for our richest billionaires,
• 45:00
  Speaker 4: while a couple of one time technology gurus have suffered
• 45:03
  Speaker 4: a massive cut in their fortunes. This is from the
• 45:05
  Speaker 4: Richest two one hundred and fifty. The list is there
• 45:09
  Speaker 4: the top ten Gina Ryan Hart on forty one point
• 45:12
  Speaker 4: sixty six billion. Harry Triggeybov comes in second, followed by
• 45:15
  Speaker 4: Anthony Pratt, Clive Palmer, Cliff Olbricht, Melanie Perkins, Nikola Forrest,
• 45:19
  Speaker 4: who is ahead of her husband from whom she is separated,
• 45:23
  Speaker 4: Andrew Forrest, Michael Dowl and Kerry Stokes, and who's fallen
• 45:27
  Speaker 4: down the list, Scott Farquhar and Mike cannon Brooks of
• 45:30
  Speaker 4: course at Lassion and Richard White as well. It seems
• 45:34
  Speaker 4: in the tech sect things ain't going so swimmingly.
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 45:38
  Speaker 3: We're going to go to a break when we come
• 45:39
  Speaker 3: back and all mighty fight breaks out in a cocktail
• 45:43
  Speaker 3: bar after an off duty police woman is accused of
• 45:45
  Speaker 3: dancing like an angry chicken.
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: We'll show you after this.
• 45:52
  Speaker 3: Okay, Going down to the beach on a weekend in
• 45:54
  Speaker 3: Sydney is always wonderful. But you can't find a park.
• 45:57
  Speaker 3: But Caleb, maybe you've got someone who can help me.
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: So what do you do when you're bored? What would
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: you do.
• 46:03
  Speaker 2: When I'm bored? I'm never bored. My life is far
• 46:05
  Speaker 2: too full and exciting.
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: Color can you give me an answer to quit?
• 46:08
  Speaker 5: If I was bored, I'd go for a walk.
• 46:10
  Speaker 4: Well, what about this fella? Gareth Wilde? He lives in
• 46:13
  Speaker 4: England and he was bored. So he decided he would
• 46:16
  Speaker 4: map every parking space at his local supermarket and then
• 46:20
  Speaker 4: rate them to work out which was his favorite.
• 46:24
  Speaker 8: Each time I'd come down, I'd make a note of
• 46:26
  Speaker 8: it on my phone, all the information from the bay,
• 46:29
  Speaker 8: number of the day that I came down, the date,
• 46:31
  Speaker 8: the time, and then how much I spent on that shop.
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: After testing all one hundred and eight spaces.
• 46:36
  Speaker 2: He even has a favorite.
• 46:37
  Speaker 8: As you come in through the entrance, it's one of
• 46:39
  Speaker 8: the first spots that you see and you can you
• 46:41
  Speaker 8: can just roll right into it.
• 46:43
  Speaker 4: Oh goodness, me his favorite A one and A two,
• 46:47
  Speaker 4: which are right next to the entrance. I don't know
• 46:49
  Speaker 4: that you needed to tagle that time to work out
• 46:51
  Speaker 4: that the best parking spots in the joint were the
• 46:55
  Speaker 4: ones right next to the entrance. Can you imagine being
• 46:57
  Speaker 4: that bored or perhaps that boring vitulate.
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: Yes, I'm going.
• 47:01
  Speaker 4: To map every car parking spot in this thing, and
• 47:05
  Speaker 4: then he ranks them from god, tear, useful, and avoid.
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: I mean, he's taken this very serious. You know, I'm
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: passionate about his past.
• 47:13
  Speaker 6: I'm going to give him some credit here, right. It
• 47:15
  Speaker 6: takes a certain level of intelligence. Though I have a
• 47:18
  Speaker 6: whole map out system. He's done what he has, He's
• 47:21
  Speaker 6: done a whole mapping system. It looks like he's got
• 47:23
  Speaker 6: some sort of a spreadsheet, some sort of a piegraph.
• 47:26
  Speaker 5: He's obviously very This is why I.
• 47:27
  Speaker 3: Like you, because you can find the best in anybody.
• 47:31
  Speaker 2: Sorry for him to all right.
• 47:32
  Speaker 3: Eight women involved in an almighty brawl in a London
• 47:36
  Speaker 3: cocktail club have all been cleared of charges, despite the
• 47:39
  Speaker 3: footage that we're about to show you. The fight broke
• 47:42
  Speaker 3: out after a mum who was celebrating on the night
• 47:45
  Speaker 3: out with two daughters, got annoyed by five off duty
• 47:48
  Speaker 3: police women who were dancing nearby.
• 47:51
  Speaker 2: She accused him of strutting.
• 47:52
  Speaker 3: Around, turning the venue into a technical support group dance
• 47:56
  Speaker 3: floor and moving like angry chickens. Then the mum called
• 48:01
  Speaker 3: one of the police officers a les up, which I
• 48:03
  Speaker 3: think is a homophobic slur. And well, the only thing
• 48:06
  Speaker 3: missing from that footage is Betty Hill music. Really, but Denika,
• 48:09
  Speaker 3: I think that what we just saw is a classic
• 48:11
  Speaker 3: example of toxic masculinity.
• 48:14
  Speaker 6: I ask the BBC what they think about it? Can
• 48:16
  Speaker 6: we get this on the Women's Hour program? Please give
• 48:18
  Speaker 6: us your your how embarrassing?
• 48:21
  Speaker 5: I mean seriously because mother and daughter as well, because of.
• 48:23
  Speaker 6: The chicken dats that her family is really seriously Kamala
• 48:28
  Speaker 6: Harris the word salad queen. Yes, guess what, she's back
• 48:30
  Speaker 6: and she's met her own match in drag.
• 48:35
  Speaker 4: Directly.
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: It's nice to finally meet me. I need I need
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: you to know right this is all for you. This
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: is because of the love and the late and the
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: joy that you put in me.
• 48:55
  Speaker 5: I can't tell who's her at this point.
• 48:56
  Speaker 6: They look exactly the same and they sound exactly the same.
• 48:59
  Speaker 6: So don't Trumps out there fighting wars and Kamala Harris
• 49:03
  Speaker 6: is watching herself as a dragon personator.
• 49:05
  Speaker 3: Do you imagine if she was prosecuting the war in
• 49:07
  Speaker 3: the Middle East.
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  Speaker 6: She'd get a drag queen to stand at the Oval
• 49:10
  Speaker 6: office and give it.
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: The ie toll of You know, Kimane might be on
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: board with that, but you know it's I don't even
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: know what to say. I was all on board with
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: it until he was saying all the light and love and.
• 49:22
  Speaker 2: What is Yeah too fast?
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: Completely, That's it from us.
• 49:25
  Speaker 3: Stick around came up is to read a penny show
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  Speaker 3: good night,