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Speaker 1: on Jaguars Drive time. It is Wednesday morning. Ashlan Sullivan,
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Speaker 1: Brian Sexton and John Osier here with you as we
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Speaker 1: get ready for a short week, a week going to London.
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Speaker 1: You're not making the trip. We will be here, but
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Speaker 1: the team is leaving tomorrow and we're just trying to
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Speaker 1: catch up. Yes we are. We're here. We'll have information
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Speaker 1: and we'll get it done. Yeah, like we always do,
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Speaker 1: no problem. Maybe a little witter, witty banter, maybe no
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Speaker 1: promises you feel like that today, we'll see we get
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Speaker 1: caught up all right, Big thing one is a weird week,
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Speaker 1: like we just mentioned, as Trevor said it best a
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Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago. What day is it again. The
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Speaker 1: Jaguars get ready to leave for London tomorrow, and with
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Speaker 1: that comes to adversity of changing up a schedule. Really
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Speaker 1: though the team isn't worried about this short week and
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Speaker 1: the change of schedule. They're more worried about winning, just
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Speaker 1: as Caleb on change. But I don't know and do
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Speaker 1: it special attention the right shame, But like I really
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Speaker 1: want this, dad, Like I really want to win. Um,
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Speaker 1: I'm sure there a lot of guys pay attention. I'm
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Speaker 1: I want to stay high school, I want in college.
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Speaker 1: I'm undefeated and now you know what I'm saying, So
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Speaker 1: I'm not winning as much as I'm used to win it,
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Speaker 1: and they just hurting you like I can't, I can't
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Speaker 1: go home every day, and just like you know what
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Speaker 1: I'm saying, just kind of take it as a normal
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Speaker 1: and there as a normal person. Like every day I'm
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Speaker 1: trying to figure out what's still like what's the issue
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Speaker 1: or what can we do better as a defense or
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Speaker 1: as personally as an individual. So if I need to
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Speaker 1: stay longer, or if I need to live every day
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Speaker 1: like I've been doing, or just meet with the coaches
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Speaker 1: every day as much as possible, or even just having
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Speaker 1: some type of team activity. You know what I'm saying someone,
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Speaker 1: I'm trying to set something up, whether it's at the
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Speaker 1: house or some type of functional event. I just want
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Speaker 1: to do wherever we take to win. And I feel
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Speaker 1: like it's just kind of the mindset that I've been
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Speaker 1: big thing too is desperate. The record that none of
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Speaker 1: us want to talk about is slowly approaching the nineteen
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Speaker 1: seventy seven bucks twenty six games in a row. The
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Speaker 1: good news is is if you win this week, you
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Speaker 1: put that conversation today. I think the biggest thing is
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Speaker 1: that you can't you can't quit working hard. Um. It's
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Speaker 1: something that we're definitely gonna keep doing because we have
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Speaker 1: no choice other than to do that. Um. But you know,
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Speaker 1: those those players are gonna start happening, and we're going
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Speaker 1: to start making headway and we're starting to you know,
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Speaker 1: everything's gonna fall our way once and we're gonna get
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Speaker 1: a win. And from from my experience, I think it's
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Speaker 1: not so much. Yeah, it's not that we're not We're
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Speaker 1: not gonna win football games because we know we can't.
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Speaker 1: We have the roster to do it. We have an
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Speaker 1: incredibly talented roster. UM but I think that the biggest
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Speaker 1: thing is just getting that first one, just to build
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Speaker 1: that confidence to be like, Okay, we can do this thing, um,
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Speaker 1: and then you walk into games saying, oh, I don't
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Speaker 1: you know, are we gonna win this one? And then
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Speaker 1: instead you're walking in the game saying we're gonna get
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Speaker 1: this one and that's going to happen. That was tight
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Speaker 1: end Dan Arnold's And big thing three is who are
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Speaker 1: these guys the Miami Dolphins? Who was there? A quarterback
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Speaker 1: to a tug of Voloa? Has been cleared to come
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Speaker 1: off injured reserve? Will he play on Sunday? And what
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Speaker 1: is going on with this team? This is a Miami
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Speaker 1: Dolphins team that won ten games last season. They're on
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Speaker 1: a four game losing streak right now. They're one and four,
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Speaker 1: and it's really truly hard to figure out what is
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Speaker 1: going on with the Dolphins. Brian, we talked about it
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Speaker 1: last year and I remember saying, this is the franchise
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Speaker 1: to watch. This is the example. They have the rookie quarterback.
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Speaker 1: Look how great they're doing. And now you're like, what's
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Speaker 1: going on? Well, when you look at them, I mean,
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Speaker 1: obviously they've had the quarterback right Jacoby Brissette has been
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Speaker 1: starting since Tua was was put on ir with ribs,
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Speaker 1: So that's that's got to be a factor in there.
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Speaker 1: The other thing is their defense, and this leads right
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Speaker 1: to the Jaguars. Last year led the league with twenty
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Speaker 1: nine takeaways. Well this year they have only six, which
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Speaker 1: by the way, is six times the amount of the
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Speaker 1: Jaguars have um. But they have just six. And that
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Speaker 1: defense last year was so opportunistic and it put teams
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Speaker 1: in a hole and teams then had to throw the ball.
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Speaker 1: And their second dairy last year played out of their minds.
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Speaker 1: Even Howard, their best corner, only gave up four touchdown
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Speaker 1: passes last year. He's giving up five and six games
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Speaker 1: this year. So the takeaways are a huge deal for
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Speaker 1: any football team, but clearly for the Dolphins on defense,
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Speaker 1: not having the ability to take the ball aways creating
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Speaker 1: problems for the rest of their team. Yeah, you're built
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Speaker 1: in this league on the offensive defensive line, and their
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Speaker 1: offensive line was a work in progress coming in my understanding,
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Speaker 1: it has not played as well as they would like.
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Speaker 1: Their defensive line also is not played as well as
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Speaker 1: it would like. The defensive line not playing very well
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Speaker 1: has contributed to what you're talking about, Brian. They're not
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Speaker 1: getting pressure up front. That has left Brian Jones and
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Speaker 1: uh Xavian Howard, who are the highest paid tandem in
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Speaker 1: the league in the secondary, not playing as well as
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Speaker 1: they did last year. It all fits together. One in
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Speaker 1: four is not where this team wanted to be. It
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Speaker 1: is perceived therefore is a big chance for the Jaguars. Uh,
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Speaker 1: Jaguars need to play still better to take advantage of
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Speaker 1: that chance. Without it out, well, yeah, they can't make mistakes.
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Speaker 1: And it's funny you look at this game, you say, oh,
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Speaker 1: what a favorable matchup on paper for the Jaguars. They
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Speaker 1: gotta win this one. But you know they're saying the
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Speaker 1: same thing in Miami this week. Well, I don't know
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Speaker 1: how you look at and go in five and one
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Speaker 1: and you it's favorable to you. But except for the
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Speaker 1: running game, right if you can go and run the
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Speaker 1: ball against that defense, which I think is giving up
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Speaker 1: I think their thirtie against the run right now, So
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Speaker 1: there's the chance for you. But if you can go
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Speaker 1: run like you did last week or better, you put
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Speaker 1: yourself in a position to have a chance. That's where
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Speaker 1: this football team is leaning on the run game good.
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Speaker 1: That's what they have to do because if they can
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Speaker 1: control the clock, it keeps a secondary that quite honestly,
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Speaker 1: isn't good enough to hold off the top passing attacks
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Speaker 1: in the league. You need to use your running game
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Speaker 1: as your best line of defense in every game the
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Speaker 1: rest of the way this year, unless all of a
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Speaker 1: sudden Tyson Campbell steps up, it becomes that player that
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Speaker 1: the head coach always talks about, a guy they're glad
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Speaker 1: to have on the team at this point. Without him,
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Speaker 1: and if he doesn't play better, you have a glaring
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Speaker 1: hole in your secondary that every teams into attack. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: especially you see Chris clay Brooks on tape and you
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Speaker 1: see how Tannehill attacked him. That's going to happen every
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Speaker 1: single week. It was like, where is he seven? Go
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Speaker 1: right at him? Nothing against him. Remember when they drafted him,
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Speaker 1: Chris clay Brooks was a return man. He was made
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Speaker 1: into a cornerback last year by necessity. Right, hard working guy,
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Speaker 1: credit to him, but not a frontline store. He's supposed
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Speaker 1: to be a sub. He's supposed to be a guy
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Speaker 1: that you like putting in there for one game when
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Speaker 1: teams can there's guys in the secondary who when teams
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Speaker 1: game plan and and try to figure out how to attack.
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Speaker 1: There are too many ways to attack them right now.
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Speaker 1: It's a glaring and you can't for the jack, and
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Speaker 1: you can't protect in matchup situations. You can't protect him
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Speaker 1: every place. And we'll shortly touch on big thing one,
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Speaker 1: which is a weird week, and I catch myself you
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Speaker 1: talk about the adversity of a short week and how
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Speaker 1: are they going to handle this? My gosh, this is
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Speaker 1: a new regime that's never gone to London. But we
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Speaker 1: kind of had the same conversation for Thursday night football
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Speaker 1: and he said, man, this is gonna be tough. And
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Speaker 1: I remember John especially, you were saying, I don't know
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Speaker 1: if they can overcome um this adversity. And then they
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Speaker 1: go on and play pretty well in Cincinnati. So you
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Speaker 1: catch yourself saying, is it that much adversity? It is?
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Speaker 1: I mean it is. Uh. The X factor they have
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Speaker 1: in their favor is there's a football operations logistics team here.
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Speaker 1: It's very very good, and it's done online and before
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Speaker 1: if you listen to them, they know how to get
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Speaker 1: this done. They know the routine. Uh, you know, follow
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Speaker 1: that lead and I think you're fine. The flip side
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Speaker 1: is is that they they may not know enough. It's
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Speaker 1: such a young team, uh and and and a rookie
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Speaker 1: coaching staff. From an NFL perspective, they may not know
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Speaker 1: enough to just just go play and not think about it.
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Speaker 1: This isn't the way it is normally, and this isn't
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Speaker 1: the way it should be. You know, these are guys
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Speaker 1: that are just going to step up over there and
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Speaker 1: and hopefully go play. That's the optimistic view. But it's
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Speaker 1: a factor. It's a factor, and I want to hope
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Speaker 1: you don't see her here. I'll never forget. I'm not
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Speaker 1: usually one who believes that all this eff x the
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Speaker 1: game that much. But remember two thousand and seventeen when
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Speaker 1: the Jaguars played the Ravens over there, there was quotes
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Speaker 1: or there are quotes for I think Joe Flack on
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Speaker 1: a couple of the Ravens players basically talking about, oh
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Speaker 1: this is this is weird, this is wild. It's hard. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: And to me, that Ravens team was clearly affected by
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Speaker 1: it and the Jaggs role, I think it was. It
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Speaker 1: was it was an ugly defeat. I don't know that
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Speaker 1: Jaguars that much better than the Ravens that year. You
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Speaker 1: hope that the Jaguars aren't wide eyed over this, and
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Speaker 1: remember that there's a game, because obviously the Jaggars aren't
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Speaker 1: good enough to overcome outside things. Right now, one last thing,
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Speaker 1: and that's desperate. Um, they can't play desperate. And there's
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Speaker 1: a difference between being desperate and playing desperate. Being desperate
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Speaker 1: and we've talked about desperate teams means you prepare, right.
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Speaker 1: It's the extra time in the film room, on the
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Speaker 1: practice field, you know, reviewing the playbook, on the flight over.
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Speaker 1: That's fine, but when you get out there, you can't
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Speaker 1: be the Oh, I'm gonna go and cover for Chris
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Speaker 1: clay Brooks. I'm gonna lean that way. But that's not
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Speaker 1: the game plan. You have to stick to the game
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Speaker 1: plan and you have to go and trust the preparation.
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Speaker 1: Don't play desperate, but it's okay to be desperate to
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Speaker 1: get the first one. I'm always desperate. Yeah, please please.
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Speaker 1: Twenty in a row is just I can't. I mean,
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Speaker 1: I have trouble putting my head around and everywhere I
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Speaker 1: go people say, what does that feel like? I don't know.
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Speaker 1: I think that's it's it's it's a numb feeling. James
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Speaker 1: Robinson said, it's indescribable, and I think that's a great way.
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Speaker 1: But someone like Shack Griffin is a great example of
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Speaker 1: preparing desperate but not playing desperate. The Jugs machine out
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Speaker 1: there every day at practice, desperately practicing to get that interception,
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Speaker 1: but don't jump your out. Use the desperation to take
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Speaker 1: an honest look at yourself and the way that you're
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Speaker 1: preparing and playing, and then use that to go play. Yes,
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Speaker 1: totally agree, and that is big things when we come
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Speaker 1: you're up first, all right, London or Seattle. Interesting to
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Speaker 1: know that the Jaguars have to play seven times in
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Speaker 1: the UK and they've only ever played three times in Seattle,
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Speaker 1: and they have never won in Seattle. And they've never
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Speaker 1: even played well in Seattle. I mean they two thousand
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Speaker 1: nine was the longest of them, but they are oh
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Speaker 1: and three and I think maybe they've scored two touchdowns
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Speaker 1: in three trips to Seattle. They've obviously played much better
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Speaker 1: in London. Attack this any way you want the city, Um,
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Speaker 1: the flight, it's eight hours to London, it's six hours
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Speaker 1: to Seattle. And the reason I chose this is because
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Speaker 1: they're going to London tomorrow and then coming back going
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Speaker 1: to Seattle the first game after the bye week. So
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Speaker 1: which would you rather make, John, the trip to London
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Speaker 1: or the trip to Seattle. Neither, Brian, because I prefer
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Speaker 1: to be home. I prefer to drive five minutes to
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Speaker 1: stay to even drive home. Uh So, But there's also
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Speaker 1: obviously the added element the Seahawks are in Seattle waiting
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Speaker 1: for you when you get there, with a unbelievable home
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Speaker 1: field advantage. The team that the Jaguars play in London
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Speaker 1: does not have a home field advantage. The Jaguars have
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Speaker 1: have had at times something of a home field advantage there.
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Speaker 1: I think that plays into it more. Um, I'm gonna
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Speaker 1: say I'd really go to London just because once I'm there,
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Speaker 1: As Calavan Chasn said, it's a long beep trip, but
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Speaker 1: once you're there, I very much enjoy London, and you know,
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Speaker 1: have met fans there, so I enjoy that trip. Not
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Speaker 1: that I dislike Seattle. I lived there as a we
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Speaker 1: lad did you did? Fun fact, I didn't know that
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Speaker 1: it's now you do live there when I was six
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Speaker 1: and seven, so so very weel. I thought, you know,
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Speaker 1: we lad by like a we we we lad and
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Speaker 1: so it's a time for mine. Yeah, this or that,
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Speaker 1: you gotta answer my question. Uh, I don't really like
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Speaker 1: traveling very much as a whole either. I'm gonna stay
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Speaker 1: neither and stay home. You gouts are born? Am I
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Speaker 1: This or that doesn't really have a good answer. Uh,
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Speaker 1: eleven giveaways or one takeaway? Which is affecting this team more? Uh?
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Speaker 1: I guess what I would say and what's worse. I
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Speaker 1: would say the one takeaway because the eleven giveaways felt
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Speaker 1: to me like a lot of new quarterback young stuff
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Speaker 1: in the first three games. I don't feel like the
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Speaker 1: eleven giveaways is going to continue on that sort of pace.
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Speaker 1: The one takeaway is catastrophic when you're trying to win games,
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Speaker 1: because you cannot win in the NFL just taken out
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Speaker 1: of the ball away? What is that one fifth of
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Speaker 1: a time a game? And I don't get a sense
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Speaker 1: that they have as good as solution for the takeaway problems,
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Speaker 1: give away problem and give away problem. To sort of
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Speaker 1: fix yourself and say we're gonna be more careful takeaways.
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Speaker 1: You've got to have a pass rush, you have to
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Speaker 1: have a secondary that can close. You have to disrupt.
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Speaker 1: I haven't seen this team as a disruptive team, so
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Speaker 1: I don't know that that changes. So you've got to
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Speaker 1: bring to takeaways down to have a chance. Yeah, I'll
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Speaker 1: do the takeaways of the bigger issue to me right now. Um,
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Speaker 1: you've got to give the quarterback an extra possession, right,
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Speaker 1: You've got to give him a short field. You've got
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Speaker 1: to give him some momentum. I mean, how much momentum
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Speaker 1: would the call have been for the Jaguars if Caleb
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Speaker 1: and Jason's hit of Tannehill was called a recovered fumble
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Speaker 1: and they have the ball on the Titan side of
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Speaker 1: the field. The quarterback was playing well, and you figure, okay,
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Speaker 1: third quarter, here we go. There's a chance for them
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Speaker 1: to get something done. So the takeaways, as you said,
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Speaker 1: catastrophic is the only way to describe it. They are
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Speaker 1: bemoaning the lack of takeaways in Miami and they have
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Speaker 1: six times as many as the Jaguars do. That to
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Speaker 1: me is a huge issue. I kind of budgeted for
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Speaker 1: the quarterback to make a bunch of turnovers. Issue based
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Speaker 1: on history. You've got to get takeaways, got to, got
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Speaker 1: to got to Yeah, And I don't know if it's
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Speaker 1: it is a huge problem. But then you look at
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Speaker 1: the opportunities they've been given, and you see the four
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Speaker 1: pass breakups that could have been interceptions, three of them
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Speaker 1: from Shack Griffin. If he makes that catch, that's a
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Speaker 1: different conversation we're having right now. I mean, you're you're
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Speaker 1: at five takeaways and you're in one short of the
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Speaker 1: Miami Dolphins where it's, oh my gosh, but you feel
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Speaker 1: a lot better. And I don't know how you fix that.
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Speaker 1: I mean, the drugs machine, he's talking about it. How
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Speaker 1: do you just make the plane, make the catch, don't
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Speaker 1: be desperate. It in a little defensive shock. It was
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Speaker 1: not an absolutely cake interception. He had cut in. His
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Speaker 1: body was at an angle and it was a hard
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Speaker 1: he will tell you should have caught it, should have
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Speaker 1: caught it. Um. They have had opportunities to takeaways, but
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Speaker 1: if you look over most teams in the NFL, the
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Speaker 1: reality is, if you get forty opportunities to takeaways during
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Speaker 1: the season with interceptions and the like, you're probably gonna
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Speaker 1: get thirty. Those guys aren't paid to catch the ball.
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Speaker 1: They're not creating enough total to have their percentages right.
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Speaker 1: Even even Caleb and Chason play very good play, they
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Speaker 1: haven't with themselves and enough situations to have four or
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Speaker 1: five of those and have enough calls go their way
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Speaker 1: because calls don't always go okay? Did you just for interest, folks,
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Speaker 1: watch this this week? Watch how the Dolphins approach Caleb
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Speaker 1: and Jason because he was all over the backfield last week.
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Speaker 1: Do they slide protection his way? Do they send the
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Speaker 1: back to chip him? Is there a more of an
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Speaker 1: opportunity now for Josh Allen to get free because of
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Speaker 1: Caleb and Jason. That's how it works. The complimentary pass rush.
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Speaker 1: One of the reasons why Unique and Gonway was so
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Speaker 1: incredibly effective here was because Clay's campbell got all the
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Speaker 1: attention on the other side and it allowed Unique to
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Speaker 1: do what he does, which is speed rush. Let's see
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Speaker 1: how Caleban's development impacts the past rush of Josh Allen. Yes,
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Speaker 1: we've been waiting for that from Caleb and n that's
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Speaker 1: for sure. Alright, mythers ort that is a bit negative,
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Speaker 1: I will admit, and I hate being like this, but
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Speaker 1: I want to bring it up anyway when this one
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Speaker 1: Sunday against the Dolphins or we start the dreaded conversation,
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Speaker 1: the conversation we had to have all last season of
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Speaker 1: when do you really want to start winning games? Or
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Speaker 1: when you want to lose games? The schedule gets really tough.
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Speaker 1: After the bye week. You're going to Seattle, You're going
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Speaker 1: to Los Angeles. There's some high draft picks that you
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Speaker 1: could really use on this team. Do you want to
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Speaker 1: win two games? Do you want to win three games? Yes,
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Speaker 1: you want to win as many. This is so different
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Speaker 1: than last year because you have a quarterback, right, Well,
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Speaker 1: you got the quarterback you needed, and I knew when
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Speaker 1: we talked about losing, losing, losing, even though last year
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Speaker 1: I just keep losing and get the quarterback. I knew
18:27
Speaker 1: that was going to drag this team into that conversation
18:30
Speaker 1: because even Peyton Manning started ohen four, Right, So I'm
18:32
Speaker 1: thinking that they're gonna lose a couple more in a row. Um, No, No,
18:36
Speaker 1: you want to win every game you can. Now, this
18:38
Speaker 1: is about winning and developing that and developing young players.
18:42
Speaker 1: There's no benefit to losing whatsoever. There are players for
18:46
Speaker 1: them that this is top ten draft no matter what, right,
18:48
Speaker 1: Because I think the high water mark for this football
18:50
Speaker 1: team is four or five six wins tops. So you're
18:53
Speaker 1: going to be in that conversation. But win as many
18:55
Speaker 1: as you can. And with regards to the conversation, John,
18:58
Speaker 1: you can't fool yourself. You are where you are. And
19:01
Speaker 1: if I'm the coach, I don't want to. I don't
19:03
Speaker 1: want to put the anxiety on these guys and say, hey,
19:05
Speaker 1: we can't lose twenty one in a row. I just
19:07
Speaker 1: want to say, hey, guys, let's get rid of this
19:10
Speaker 1: losing streak and unleash ourselves and get rid of whatever
19:14
Speaker 1: he is coming. Let's just focus on getting the win. Yeah,
19:17
Speaker 1: they worry all along with not winning early. You know
19:21
Speaker 1: the regime, even this team for the most part, is
19:24
Speaker 1: not responsible for twenty in or row. But again, that's
19:28
Speaker 1: not how it's going to be perceived outside, so you're
19:30
Speaker 1: gonna start hearing that. I agree with you, guys. There's
19:34
Speaker 1: no problem winning games this year. Win as many as
19:36
Speaker 1: you want. I'm not a big draft for need guy,
19:39
Speaker 1: but you know, I haven't looked at the draft big
19:41
Speaker 1: time next year, but there are going to be enough
19:45
Speaker 1: spots on this roster where you think we could use
19:48
Speaker 1: a really good player. I'm not gonna worry too much
19:52
Speaker 1: about individual guys that you don't get. This team is
19:55
Speaker 1: not loaded enough where you gotta be specific in the draft. No, yeah,
19:58
Speaker 1: it's totally different if you need a quarterback. Whole different conversations.
20:01
Speaker 1: It was not having it if you watch the kid,
20:05
Speaker 1: and everyone is it was worth it to get there, right,
20:08
Speaker 1: It doesn't feel that way because the seasons are still
20:11
Speaker 1: linked by the losing. But but the winning will occur
20:15
Speaker 1: and that will fall away, and then you'll still have
20:18
Speaker 1: the kid and things will be better and you'll feel
20:20
Speaker 1: just right. All the anxiety about the losing. The more
20:24
Speaker 1: I watched him and I go back and I watched
20:26
Speaker 1: specifically him. When I review the game, I think phenomenal.
20:31
Speaker 1: They're in such a good position. They just they just
20:34
Speaker 1: have to get better. Totally agree. When we come back,
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Speaker 1: It's time for ozone Snapshot and we're going to Hey
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Speaker 1: Tom coachs for j C. My gut feeling is that
21:30
Speaker 1: every week I'm gonna write you the same thing, John
21:33
Speaker 1: Jacks really need more talent on defense. Well yeah, and
21:37
Speaker 1: this is the thing. And I feel like caleban Chasin
21:42
Speaker 1: last week started to show maybe he's got a chance
21:46
Speaker 1: to be a piece. I don't want to get to
21:48
Speaker 1: head over heels. He had a really good game against
21:51
Speaker 1: a struggling offensive line, so let's see if he can
21:54
Speaker 1: be that guy. But overall, they don't have enough guys
21:57
Speaker 1: who make big plays in the past rush, and they
22:00
Speaker 1: don't have enough guys in the secondary who can shut down.
22:03
Speaker 1: To me, they're going to need to draft at number
22:05
Speaker 1: one quarter next year. Uh, you know, you hate to
22:09
Speaker 1: say it. They may still need a pass rush. I
22:11
Speaker 1: think they do. Josh Allen has been good. Not elite
22:16
Speaker 1: caleban Chason. You know, we'll see. But do they have
22:20
Speaker 1: a disruptive fourth Do they have enough playmakers on defense
22:25
Speaker 1: so far? No, this is a team that hasn't had
22:26
Speaker 1: a significant stop yet this year. Uh. I'm not taking
22:30
Speaker 1: away from what they did against the Titans for for
22:33
Speaker 1: three series, but when it mattered in the fourth quarter,
22:37
Speaker 1: they let them get away from the goal line. They
22:41
Speaker 1: continued to go. So the defense hasn't created enough. They
22:45
Speaker 1: need probably two or three big time players defense to
22:49
Speaker 1: turn it around. They need fast guys, they need speed. Um.
22:53
Speaker 1: It's why I scratched my head when they released Quincy
22:56
Speaker 1: Williams because that guy could run and hit, and we
22:59
Speaker 1: saw seen what he's done. You can't let guys who
23:02
Speaker 1: can run and hit get away. You gotta go get them.
23:05
Speaker 1: You got to develop them. You need, as you said,
23:08
Speaker 1: a corner you need a pass I think you absolutely
23:10
Speaker 1: need a pass rusher, probably need a on the side
23:13
Speaker 1: of the ball a Davon Hamilton's thanks to be very
23:17
Speaker 1: very good, but you probably need more upfront. Uh even
23:22
Speaker 1: stouter or they have stout, but I don't know that
23:28
Speaker 1: they have penetration up front. They don't disrupt enough yet. Yeah, well,
23:33
Speaker 1: Joe's going to need more guys that fit his scheme, specifically.
23:38
Speaker 1: Defense is a major area free agency. Also, yep, something
23:41
Speaker 1: we'll be talking draft talk. Can't wait. But we're not
23:44
Speaker 1: there yet. Let's go to our guys. Steve, we're Steve
23:47
Speaker 1: the sunroom couch, alright, and but who's counting Steves. I
23:52
Speaker 1: think the Jaguars have a chance to win in London
23:54
Speaker 1: and maybe Seattle. The Falcons and the Jets could be wins.
23:57
Speaker 1: Steve is predicting three and four team. Yeah, and I'm
24:01
Speaker 1: not trying to me. I'm not trying to be a
24:02
Speaker 1: Debbie Downer and you know, predict the Jaguars record. But
24:06
Speaker 1: I think it's worth a conversation at this point because
24:08
Speaker 1: you're playing Miami that's perceived as one you've got a
24:11
Speaker 1: chance at. I do think realistically you're probably looking at
24:15
Speaker 1: three or four this year. The way the schedule plays out. Uh,
24:19
Speaker 1: they have some teams Brian coming up that have quarterback
24:23
Speaker 1: issues that you feel like they can get at some point.
24:26
Speaker 1: I don't think this is a thing we're going to
24:28
Speaker 1: be talking about, oh and something in December. But schedule stuff, well,
24:34
Speaker 1: I mean, think about it. And this is why a
24:36
Speaker 1: lot of people are putting so much weight on Miami.
24:38
Speaker 1: You come back and you go to Seattle and I
24:40
Speaker 1: just told you they've never even played well in Seattle.
24:42
Speaker 1: And it's not like Russell Wilson was the quarterback for
24:45
Speaker 1: those other three games. Okay, Uh, Russell Wilson is probably
24:48
Speaker 1: not gonna play. So maybe you feel good about that.
24:49
Speaker 1: But then the Bills come here. Did you see the
24:51
Speaker 1: Bills last week? I mean they are. They are now
24:54
Speaker 1: the number one team in the a f C. They
24:56
Speaker 1: have built that team. And by the way, the last
24:59
Speaker 1: couple of years people have beenrustrated with the Bills up there,
25:01
Speaker 1: but they've put the pieces in place, and now you
25:04
Speaker 1: see a team that's built to win. I mean, then
25:06
Speaker 1: you have to go to to Indianapolis and you've got
25:08
Speaker 1: the Niners, and you've got the Rams, and you've got
25:11
Speaker 1: the Colts, I mean, and the Falcons, and and and
25:14
Speaker 1: the Titans. Again, you gotta you have murderers row for
25:17
Speaker 1: a young team that isn't playing very well. Now, can
25:19
Speaker 1: you turn that around and play well? Yes? But are
25:21
Speaker 1: we going to sit here and go well, they will
25:22
Speaker 1: be playing well now when this one and this one
25:24
Speaker 1: and this one. In seven years of doing this, I've
25:26
Speaker 1: never gotten the schedule right, but I do look and
25:28
Speaker 1: see three rookie quarterbacks in back to back to back
25:32
Speaker 1: weeks in December, where you see Davis Mills and the Texans,
25:36
Speaker 1: you see Zack Wilson and the Jets, and you see
25:40
Speaker 1: um mac Jones and the Patriots. Okay, there's a stretch
25:44
Speaker 1: where you look at compile some wins, hopefully your quarterback
25:46
Speaker 1: out plays them. And this one, I say four wins
25:50
Speaker 1: is probably the absolute right mark for this football team.
25:53
Speaker 1: Can they go steal one and in that stretch. Sure,
25:56
Speaker 1: there's nothing to say that they can't all of a
25:57
Speaker 1: sudden get it that this quarterback can't go oh and
26:00
Speaker 1: make bigger plays. But if you're looking realistically, the Jaguars
26:05
Speaker 1: have to look at the ones where they're they don't
26:07
Speaker 1: have to we do where they are matched up well
26:10
Speaker 1: and go get those. Yeah, And realistically, we were talking
26:13
Speaker 1: in training camp saying six seven, Yeah at the high
26:17
Speaker 1: water mark. That's that's being an optimistic and training camp.
26:21
Speaker 1: But with that total, you thought they'd get a couple
26:24
Speaker 1: of early and a half. Yes, it's very true, you thought. Yes.
26:27
Speaker 1: I remember us talking early on in the schedule saying,
26:29
Speaker 1: if you win two of those, you're good. You're sitting
26:31
Speaker 1: pretty you know, momentum being what it is, I felt
26:33
Speaker 1: like the first six games offered them the best chance
26:35
Speaker 1: to get two or three. That was probably optimstic. What
26:39
Speaker 1: was optimistic, yes, but but that was where the most
26:42
Speaker 1: wins were for this football team with a rookie quarterback
26:44
Speaker 1: and a new NFL coach and a staff that was
26:47
Speaker 1: new to this game as well. All right, we're going
26:49
Speaker 1: to Broward County to wrap up a zone snapshot our guy, David.
26:53
Speaker 1: This is supposed to be a blitz heavy defense. I
26:56
Speaker 1: have never seen a so called blitz defense that never
26:58
Speaker 1: gets home with the blitz. Well, he has at some point,
27:03
Speaker 1: because when you see teams, any three four team is
27:10
Speaker 1: typically a blitz heavy defense. Uh. The issue with the
27:14
Speaker 1: Jaguars right now is they want to be a blitz
27:16
Speaker 1: heavy defense, but they don't have the players to be
27:19
Speaker 1: a blitz heavy defense. Remember when everything was Todd WASH's fault, right,
27:25
Speaker 1: and now all of a sudden, with the fans, it's
27:27
Speaker 1: starting to be Joe Collin's fault. Well, it's always the
27:29
Speaker 1: coach's fault in some fans mind the problem with trying
27:34
Speaker 1: to blitz so much, and I guess the feeling that
27:36
Speaker 1: Joe knows this because he's they're not blitzing nearly as
27:39
Speaker 1: much as as as maybe you anticipated, or they're not
27:42
Speaker 1: quite as exotic as the Ravens. Well they can't be.
27:46
Speaker 1: They don't have the players to get home. When if
27:49
Speaker 1: you're going to be blitz heavy and you don't get home,
27:53
Speaker 1: then all you are is a team that's leaving your
27:55
Speaker 1: back end exposed. And this is not a team right
27:57
Speaker 1: now that can afford to leave the back end exposed
27:59
Speaker 1: blitz to at your own peril, especially when your secondary
28:02
Speaker 1: is struggling. I don't mind. Well, and again it's about
28:07
Speaker 1: the horses, it's about the personnelity. But you can't leave
28:10
Speaker 1: Chris Claybrooks on an island, because that's the hot read
28:13
Speaker 1: for every quarterback. When you've got a guy out there,
28:15
Speaker 1: and again I hated to be about him. But when
28:17
Speaker 1: you have a player that can't cover one on one,
28:21
Speaker 1: can't handle the matchup, then all of a sudden, hot
28:23
Speaker 1: read Trueman A right where I'm going with the football.
28:26
Speaker 1: You don't have those guys on the back end right now.
28:28
Speaker 1: If you send Rachel Jenkins, you have a major hole
28:30
Speaker 1: in your secondary major. You can't do the things you
28:34
Speaker 1: want to do. And and maybe we thought that some
28:36
Speaker 1: of these guys would be the answer, and we're finding
28:38
Speaker 1: out right now they're not. That happens over the course
28:41
Speaker 1: of the season. Guys that you're counting on all of
28:43
Speaker 1: a sudden can't do it all right, We got to
28:44
Speaker 1: replace this guy whoever it may be very true. And
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