Latest / Becker’s Healthcare - Clinical Leadership Podcast / Matthew McCambridge, Chief Quality and Patient Safety Officer at Lehigh Valley Health Network
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- 0:00- This is Laura Dedo with the Becker's Healthcare Podcast.
- 0:03I'm thrilled today to be joined by Matt McCambridge,
- 0:06chief Quality and Patient Safety Officer
- 0:07at Lehigh Valley Health Network.
- 0:09Matt, it's a pleasure to have you on the podcast today.
- 0:12- Thank you so much for having me.
- 0:13It's really an honor to be here.
- 0:16- Now, I know we've got a lot to talk about.
- 0:17There's so much happening in healthcare right now,
- 0:19and certainly, you know, from Lehigh Valley,
- 0:22just such a great, uh, program you have there.
- 0:25So I'm excited to learn more about what you're doing
- 0:27and and where things are headed.
- 0:28But before we dive into my questions,
- 0:30can you tell me a little bit more
- 0:31about yourself and your background?
- 0:34- Sure. Thank you. Um, I'd be happy to.
- 0:36So I'm a pulmonary and critical care physician.
- 0:39I still practice medicine about one day a week.
- 0:42As a matter of fact, I just finished seeing patients, uh,
- 0:45about a half hour ago, uh, mostly, uh, uh,
- 0:48office practice now rather than ICU Medicine anymore.
- 0:52I started my career.
- 0:53I'm a little different than most people.
- 0:54I started my career off in the United States Army.
- 0:58I went to college
- 0:59and medical school in the Washington DC area,
- 1:02and then I went to Walter Reeve for all of my training,
- 1:04internal medicine, pulmonary and critical care.
- 1:07And then after that, uh, the Army, uh, sent me down
- 1:11to Fort Bragg in North Carolina.
- 1:13Um, and I served at Womack Army Medical Center.
- 1:17I ran the ICUs there,
- 1:19and I was also a battalion aid surgeon in
- 1:21the 82nd Airborne Division.
- 1:22So at that point, after about five years, I was, uh,
- 1:26I had fulfilled my army commitment.
- 1:28And at that point it was 2003,
- 1:30and I came home, I came back home to civilian life, uh,
- 1:33back here to Allentown, Pennsylvania, where I'm,
- 1:35I'm sitting right now in Delia Valley Health Network.
- 1:39And I started off as a staff position.
- 1:42I had a number of leadership positions, um, president
- 1:45of the medical staff, chairman of Critical Care.
- 1:47And then about seven years ago, um,
- 1:50after two years of graduate school, I went back
- 1:52to grad school and got a master's in healthcare quality
- 1:55and patient safety at Northwestern.
- 1:57And then, um, about seven years ago, I got, I got this job
- 2:00that I'm in now, um, chief Quality Patient Safety Officer.
- 2:03And then about a year ago,
- 2:05I got something added to my title.
- 2:06I have a very long title. I have, um, chief Quality,
- 2:08patient Safety and Acute Care Continuum Officer.
- 2:11And that has a lot to do with, um, our,
- 2:14our interest in value-based care.
- 2:16Uh, so, and right now my areas of responsibility
- 2:20are quality, patient safety.
- 2:23I have infection control and infection prevention.
- 2:25I have regulatory and accreditation.
- 2:27Interestingly, I have radiation
- 2:28safety that comes up through me.
- 2:31Um, and then inpatient and transitional value-based care,
- 2:33and then all other duties as assigned.
- 2:35There's so many cheap quality officers have out there.
- 2:38That's, uh, that's a big
- 2:39category for me, that last category.
- 2:42- Absolutely. That's fascinating to hear.
- 2:44And certainly, you know, great, um, career
- 2:46and experiences that you had growing up the ladder
- 2:48and from a, a physician
- 2:50and then having so many leadership roles as well.
- 2:53And now I'm just continuing to expand your role
- 2:55as healthcare evolves and changes, which is great.
- 2:58What are some of the biggest issues
- 2:59that you're following in healthcare right now?
- 3:02- Well, there is so much going on in healthcare right now.
- 3:05I have to say, one of the things that has my attention
- 3:09very much, um, particularly with respect to quality
- 3:11and safety, is the healthcare workforce challenges we're
- 3:14having right now with nurses and physicians
- 3:18and all the other staff, uh, PTOT x-ray Techs, uh,
- 3:23surgical technicians everywhere.
- 3:25Still, the challenges we're having
- 3:26with the HE healthcare workforce
- 3:28and how that impacts hospital finances
- 3:31and then how all of that impacts quality
- 3:34and safety, you know, and investment
- 3:35into quality and safety.
- 3:36And I think for me, over the last couple years,
- 3:40that's probably the top thing, um, is the interaction
- 3:43between all those factors, the workforce, the finances,
- 3:46and then how that impacts, uh, quality and safety.
- 3:50So that would be, I would say probably the, one
- 3:54of the top things on my mind.
- 3:56Another thing on my mind is, um, probably
- 3:59what everybody else has been experiencing is the,
- 4:01the mental health crisis in America, in our communities
- 4:04and how that's impacting our hospitals, um,
- 4:06and the, our mental health resources that we have
- 4:09to help our communities.
- 4:11And I think the last one that, uh, I've been impressed on
- 4:15with this over this past year
- 4:16or so is healthcare affordability, uh,
- 4:19and people putting off care with potentially poor outcomes.
- 4:23I think that's a, a big issue.
- 4:25Those, those three things that the workforce
- 4:27and how that impacts quality and safety, finances
- 4:30and quality and safety, the mental health crisis,
- 4:32which is an everyday thing, at least where we are here.
- 4:35And then healthcare, affordability, the, the larger concept
- 4:37of healthcare affordability
- 4:38and, um, how that's impacting outcomes.
- 4:44- That's really fascinating to hear,
- 4:45and I appreciate you touching on all those factors
- 4:47because I can imagine so many healthcare executives across
- 4:51the country are, are really seeing similar things
- 4:53and, um, trying to work through those challenges.
- 4:56As you mentioned, thinking about finances
- 4:58and how, you know, um, the workforce
- 5:01redesigning certain aspects of the workforce, clinical
- 5:04as well as an administrative,
- 5:05and then, you know, how
- 5:07that can impact the organization financially, mental health
- 5:10as well as huge for so many different communities.
- 5:12I know, particularly for you as well in Pennsylvania.
- 5:16And then finally the affordability of healthcare, um,
- 5:19really makes a big difference when you look at all
- 5:21of those things together.
- 5:23Um, is there anything
- 5:25that you've been doing at Lehigh Valley Health Network, um,
- 5:27to really address any of these issues
- 5:30that's had some great results?
- 5:34- Well, uh, will do so many things in all
- 5:36of those different areas that, um,
- 5:39that I think is probably not all that unique to us.
- 5:42I think the one thing that was particularly excited about
- 5:46is, um, virtual nursing
- 5:48and how virtual nursing can support the bedside nurses.
- 5:52Um, we opened up, uh, the ninth
- 5:56tele ICU in the country way back in 2004,
- 5:59and we've been very heavily interested
- 6:01and heavily invested in telemedicine.
- 6:04I saw nine patients today,
- 6:05and three of them were video visits.
- 6:07And that video platform has been transformative to us
- 6:11through COID and we're really starting to leverage
- 6:13that in our virtual nursing space.
- 6:16Uh, there's, uh,
- 6:17some health systems out there like Houston Methodist that
- 6:20are, are really setting, uh,
- 6:22setting the tone for the rest of us.
- 6:23And we're trying to, uh, we're trying to do that same thing
- 6:27and, and, um, take some of these more seasoned nurses
- 6:31that may be closer to retirement
- 6:33or other nurses that are,
- 6:34are interested in getting away from the bedside, um, and,
- 6:37and having them work in virtual nursing.
- 6:39And another thing that we're doing here
- 6:42is at our health system, we have 21,000 employees,
- 6:44and we have, um, many nurses
- 6:47that work in administrative roles.
- 6:48And those nurses are also working part-time in virtual
- 6:51nursing, so maybe spending 5%
- 6:54of their week as virtual nurses.
- 6:56And, and that's something that, um,
- 6:58that we're doing here as well.
- 6:59So really excited ab about that
- 7:02and how that's gonna potentially help this larger problem.
- 7:07- It's so fascinating to hear about
- 7:08and definitely great that, you know,
- 7:10it seems like you were early in terms of some
- 7:13of your virtual care, um, you know, pursuing
- 7:16that in in virtual nursing too.
- 7:18Is there anything else that you're looking at
- 7:19that you're excited about or what also makes you nervous?
- 7:23- Yeah, so I'm, uh,
- 7:25I'm really excited about some of the things.
- 7:27I, I just saw a bunch of patients today,
- 7:28and I, I was thinking as I was seeing one of my patients
- 7:31that, um, over the last 25 years as a pulmonary doctor,
- 7:34there's been such dramatic changes.
- 7:36It used to be that the patients would come to me with
- 7:39x-rays, uh, in a middle, you know, in a, in a, in a folder,
- 7:42and it would hardly be tracked on everything.
- 7:43And I had really complicated patients today,
- 7:45and you can just, it's all right there in front
- 7:47of me in the electronic medical record.
- 7:48And it's just really amazing.
- 7:49And some of the advancements that I'm really excited about
- 7:53are in medical technology, uh, what we're doing
- 7:56and what the rest of the country is
- 7:57doing in robotic surgery.
- 7:59I already mentioned telemedicine, wearable health devices,
- 8:03personalized medicine,
- 8:04and how all of that ultimately,
- 8:06hopefully we'll have positive outcomes, uh, for patients.
- 8:10So that's one area I'm really excited about.
- 8:12I would say another area that has really got my intention
- 8:15and we're really excited about here is, um,
- 8:18the innovative treatments and therapies, um, particularly,
- 8:21and I'm sure you've been following this
- 8:22with the, the weight loss drugs.
- 8:24Um, medications for congestive heart failure seem
- 8:27to be coming a, have really come a long way.
- 8:30The gene and cell therapies
- 8:31for certain diseases like spinal muscle atrophy, um,
- 8:36leukemia, uh, the CAR T cell therapies for leukemia
- 8:39and lymphomas, gene editing, the and,
- 8:42and CRISPR Cas nine therapies.
- 8:44There's just so much happening now that's really exciting,
- 8:47uh, immunotherapies, regenerative medicine.
- 8:50There's just so much to be positive about
- 8:53and be excited about, and that's what I'm excited about.
- 8:56I have to say, the thing that makes me nervous about all
- 8:58that is, uh, the rising cost of healthcare.
- 9:02Um, many of those things I just mentioned are
- 9:04so unbelievably expensive
- 9:06and, um, you know, um, we're already spending,
- 9:09we're already spending $1.7 trillion a year, uh,
- 9:13at least on Medicare and Medicaid, um, 4.3
- 9:17or so trillion dollars in healthcare
- 9:18and these new therapies while they're, you know,
- 9:21potentially wonderful and lifesaving.
- 9:23The thing that concerns me is, um, the rise in costs
- 9:26of, of, of healthcare.
- 9:27And the other thing that concerns me is, uh,
- 9:30healthcare access and disparities, um, leading
- 9:34to unequal health comes that's very important.
- 9:37And I would say, um, you know, um,
- 9:41provider shortages and burnout is of course, on,
- 9:43on our list here and on my list, health system complexity.
- 9:47And then of course, data security, um, something
- 9:50that we have to, all healthcare administrators,
- 9:52I think right now are, are very keenly aware of.
- 9:55And so there you go.
- 9:57I think another thing that's,
- 9:58that's interesting is we've made a lot
- 10:01of progress in patient safety.
- 10:03Um, but I, I think there's a lot of progress that needs
- 10:06to be made yet with regard to patient safety.
- 10:10And I think we've, we've,
- 10:11we've made a good start in patient safety,
- 10:12but there's a lot more, a lot
- 10:13more progress that needs to be made.
- 10:17- Absolutely. I think that's such a great point.
- 10:18You know, definitely look back
- 10:20and see how much, uh, you've grown and,
- 10:22and like you said, progress has been made, been able
- 10:24to do more to keep patients safe,
- 10:26but then still, you know, there, there's so much, um, left
- 10:30to be done and, and certainly, um, a lot
- 10:32of room for innovation.
- 10:34Where do you see as, um, being important for leaders
- 10:38to become the most effective healthcare leaders possible
- 10:40over the next two to three years or so?
- 10:42What will help leaders be successful, especially
- 10:44as healthcare changes, as we see some
- 10:47of the different dynamics in the field change
- 10:49as technology improves and all those kinds of things?
- 10:52What should leaders be thinking about?
- 10:56- Yeah, so I read this wonderful book a few years ago, um,
- 11:00by Elizabeth Rosenthal.
- 11:01She's a Harvard trained ed doctor
- 11:03who writes in the New York Times from time to time.
- 11:05And she also wrote a book called An American Sickness,
- 11:09uh, excellent book.
- 11:10And there's one thing she said in that book
- 11:11that really resonates with me.
- 11:12And I think, um, healthcare right now, healthcare leaders,
- 11:16uh, people like me are trying to find that balance
- 11:18between the Mother Theresa side of healthcare
- 11:21and the Goldman Sachs side of healthcare
- 11:23and trying to find that perfect balance.
- 11:25And I think that effective leaders moving forward,
- 11:30um, I just would submit this to you that, uh,
- 11:33potentially should be thinking about doubling down on the
- 11:36quote unquote the softer stuff.
- 11:38Things like, um, awareness
- 11:41and empathy, um, humility, you know, um,
- 11:46uh, authenticity, those types of things.
- 11:49And I think, I think, um, you know,
- 11:53it's gonna be a little funny to say,
- 11:54but I think just kind of getting back to the basics
- 11:56with respect to our patients
- 11:57and, um, making sure that on the Mother Teresa side
- 12:00of healthcare that we're, we're, um, making sure
- 12:04that we surround our patients with love
- 12:06and protecting our patients when they need to be protected,
- 12:09um, from the patient safety standpoint, advocating
- 12:12and fighting for our patients when they need to be advocated
- 12:14and fought for, particularly patients
- 12:15that don't look like me, you know, um, patients that, um,
- 12:19that need us to, to be fought for.
- 12:22And then comfort patients when they need
- 12:24to be comfort comforted.
- 12:25And I think healthcare leaders doubling down on things like
- 12:28love and respect, respect for our workers,
- 12:31respect for our patients.
- 12:32I think that will, will be really, really important.
- 12:35And I think one other thing is, so that's all good, um,
- 12:39talking about that software stuff,
- 12:41but I think the healthcare leaders also have to get results.
- 12:45Um, and I think the results that healthcare leaders need
- 12:49to be getting in the next few years
- 12:51with the way healthcare finances are right now is in areas
- 12:56of, um, efficiency and waste is one area.
- 13:00And another area is, is is patient safety.
- 13:03So efficiency and waste.
- 13:05Um, I think there's an awful lot of opportunity, uh,
- 13:09within our health systems to become more efficient
- 13:13for our patients so that the patients, uh, are moving
- 13:16through the system better, there's less waste.
- 13:19Um, and I think that's a really important concept.
- 13:21And then for patient safety, I think it's important
- 13:25for healthcare leaders to be, I think leapfrog a
- 13:28and CMS star ratings, all of those are wonderful things.
- 13:30They've gotten us a good start,
- 13:31but I do believe there's another level
- 13:33of patient safety we can get to.
- 13:36Um, making sure like your hospital has a, a, a, a good
- 13:40and well-functioning things like an anticoagulation clinic.
- 13:43How do you do preoperative, um, surgical assessment?
- 13:47How does your blood bank function?
- 13:49Does it function safely and is it efficient?
- 13:51And then in areas like surgery,
- 13:54doubling down on things like wrong side surgeries,
- 13:56retained foreign bodies, lost specimens, um, you know,
- 14:01injuries that can happen with surgeries.
- 14:02And then so many other categories.
- 14:05And, and thinking about patient safety a little bit
- 14:07differently, um, when it comes
- 14:09to like maybe GI adenoma detection rates, nursing
- 14:13with telemetry and falls and pressure injuries.
- 14:16I think all of these areas, there's a kind
- 14:18of an entry level patient safety,
- 14:20but then there's another level we can get to when it comes
- 14:24to, to patient safety.
- 14:25So I think as far as leadership goes, um, focusing on,
- 14:31um, some of the softer stuff
- 14:33and then at the same time, um, really,
- 14:35really focusing on getting results and I think challenging,
- 14:38but I think that's gonna be,
- 14:40I think that's gonna be the future.
- 14:43- Absolutely. I, I think that's such a fine line to walk,
- 14:45but certainly being able to have that dual focus and,
- 14:48and doing it well, um, it really seems like it would be,
- 14:50be a quality of successful leaders.
- 14:52I know, easier said than done in many cases,
- 14:54but, um, certainly so, so important to, uh,
- 14:57drive healthcare in the future.
- 14:59Matt, thank you so much for joining us on the podcast today.
- 15:02This has been such a fun and interesting discussion.
- 15:04I, I have like a couple of pages of notes here,
- 15:06just looking through everything you talked about, um, seems
- 15:09so relevant and so important to, um,
- 15:12the healthcare space today.
- 15:13So we appreciate your time
- 15:15and definitely look forward
- 15:16to connecting with you again soon.
- 15:18- Well, thanks so much, Laura.
- 15:19It's really been an honor to to be here
- 15:21and I appreciate the conversation.
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