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Is Amy Coney Barrett Living in Fear? · The M&M Experience

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  Speaker 1: Welcome, welcome, welcome. Hey, hey, hey, did Matt really pop
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  Speaker 1: me up? What I was saying? Am I on? Am
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  Speaker 1: I on? I mean, Matt, do you ever hear the
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  Speaker 1: cue button when we're on? We're on? So when it's time,
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  Speaker 1: it's time. Anyway, Oh boy, got to be ready for
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  Speaker 1: prime time, something that Amy Coney Barrett does not seem
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  Speaker 1: to be. I know, we got a lot of things
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  Speaker 1: to cover today, and I want to I want to
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  Speaker 1: cover it all with you, but I do want to
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  Speaker 1: start you and I were focused on Justice Elena Kagan
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  Speaker 1: and her powerful tribute to Lindsay Graham. Yesterday, we kind
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  Speaker 1: of missed the Supreme Court Justice Amy Cony Barrett. Now,
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  Speaker 1: both of them were testifying before Congress about the need
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  Speaker 1: for millions of dollars of additional security because of all
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  Speaker 1: the death threats and all the violence that they face. Okay, now, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: we could debate that, I guess. I mean Senator John
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  Speaker 1: Kennedy said, there's no there's no money tree out here.
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  Speaker 1: We don't have more money for you know, for security
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  Speaker 1: for them. I don't think that's a good book.
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  Speaker 2: Pause for a moment. As soon as soon as someone
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  Speaker 2: says we have no money for not. First of all,
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  Speaker 2: they're right, our country is broke. We are so deep
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  Speaker 2: in the hole where we're trying to dig out of it. However,
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  Speaker 2: as soon as somebody says, in response to something that
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  Speaker 2: somebody asks for, that'll take more money. As soon as
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  Speaker 2: somebody says we don't have the money, everyone should recognize
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  Speaker 2: that America has wasted enough money since we woke up
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  Speaker 2: this morning to pay for whatever it is they're talking about.
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  Speaker 2: Exactly in a way I don't want to hear we
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  Speaker 2: don't have the money, because we absolutely do. We would
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  Speaker 2: have all kinds of money for important, uplifting things that
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  Speaker 2: government is supposed to do if we simply stopped wasting
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  Speaker 2: so much.
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  Speaker 1: And Senator John Kennedy doesn't strike me as being kind
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  Speaker 1: of a rand Paul, we're not going to spend money
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  Speaker 1: on anything, So he might have another reason for this,
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  Speaker 1: And part of the reason is did you see the
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  Speaker 1: pushback she got. First of all, her she was terrified.
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  Speaker 1: She was talking about having to wear a bulletproof vest,
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  Speaker 1: having to explain a bulletproof best to her twelve year
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  Speaker 1: old son. She looked scared, she sounded scared. One of
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  Speaker 1: the most powerful videos I saw last night on social media,
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  Speaker 1: juxtaposed a Clarence Thomas saying I would rather die than
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  Speaker 1: back down to these bullies. He was doing this is
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  Speaker 1: when he was, you know, being eviscerated over that witch
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  Speaker 1: hunt that he had to endure it or to get nominated.
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  Speaker 1: He goes, I will not back down, and then they
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  Speaker 1: paired it with her saying I had to Changelve years old?
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  Speaker 1: Why not? Why not? Why not? Is? Look, look, here's
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  Speaker 1: the reason. It's a problem. That's a big problem. And
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  Speaker 1: I think you've got to be aware of this. Before Dobbs,
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  Speaker 1: before the Roe v. Wade thing was announced, she voted
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  Speaker 1: with the conservative position in eighty one percent of non
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  Speaker 1: unanimous cases. They've been tracking this mark since Dobbs. After Dobbs,
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  Speaker 1: that number has dropped dramatically. She has been voting with
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  Speaker 1: conservative with a conservative agenda about fifty to sixty percent
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  Speaker 1: of the time, suggesting that the violence that she was
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  Speaker 1: threatened with rattled her so badly that it's impacting her
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  Speaker 1: vote on the Supreme Court. She's voting with the liberals
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  Speaker 1: on the Supreme Court. I have been saying this for
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  Speaker 1: a year. I have been saying something changed with Amy
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  Speaker 1: Cony Barrett something has made her. There's no way that
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  Speaker 1: a supposedly reliably conservative justice starts voting with Sodamayor and
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  Speaker 1: Katanji Brown Jackson extent.
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  Speaker 2: And sometimes it does happen, from Anthony Kennedy to David's
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  Speaker 2: suit her, sometimes it does. But couple of there's a
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  Speaker 2: record here, there's a record here with regard to her record.
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  Speaker 2: It's vital. It's important in every justice and how they votes,
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  Speaker 2: they vote is extremely important. I think not to dwell
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  Speaker 2: too much on the juxtaposition of the courageous Clarence Thomas
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  Speaker 2: and the terrified Amy Cony Parrott. When Clarence Thomas was
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  Speaker 2: engaged in that moment thirty five years ago, the violent
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  Speaker 2: left had not yet reared its head, and I don't
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  Speaker 2: want to suggest that he too would have cowered if
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  Speaker 2: they had. But you could get pretty mouthy and stand
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  Speaker 2: up for yourself and not think that you were going
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  Speaker 2: to take a bullet on the way home for the
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  Speaker 2: most part in nineteen ninety one.
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  Speaker 1: Well, you're not saying Clarence Thomas begging for extra money
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  Speaker 1: for sure?
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  Speaker 2: Well, no, no, I know that that is true, I think,
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  Speaker 2: and in fact, maybe there's a bad look to have
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  Speaker 2: a you've got to have the courage to do what
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  Speaker 2: the constitution says, thank you, no matter where the chips fall.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe that also means that if they're scary things out
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  Speaker 2: there in life, and wacky radical leftist assassins around every corner,
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  Speaker 2: that you need to take that with It's okay to
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  Speaker 2: be concerned, but maybe with a way that shows a
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  Speaker 2: little more poise and resilience. And maybe that bar was
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  Speaker 2: not well, and.
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  Speaker 1: You can't rule out or dismiss the possibility that her
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  Speaker 1: voting record has been impacted by the threats of violence
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  Speaker 1: to her family. And I have believed this all along,
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  Speaker 1: I have thought this now. I reject the argument that, well,
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  Speaker 1: women shouldn't. I saw this a lot last night. Women
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  Speaker 1: shouldn't be appointed to the Supreme Court. Women are weak,
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  Speaker 1: women are fearful. They need mother Margaret Thatcher, Margaret, thank
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  Speaker 1: you as condoliez. There's a lot of tough women who
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  Speaker 1: would be just fine. That's not it. However, if this woman,
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  Speaker 1: if this particular woman is, and she's been described lovingly
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  Speaker 1: as a soccer mom before she was nominated, drove around
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  Speaker 1: in the minivan, and it's got to be terrible to
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  Speaker 1: have to explain to your kid why you have to
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  Speaker 1: wear a bulletproof vest. I get that if it's impacting
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  Speaker 1: her votes, she's got to resign. If she she got
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  Speaker 1: stepped down, we'll never know this well of Tom clancy novel?
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  Speaker 1: Are you writing? It's it's reality? I mean, first of all,
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  Speaker 1: First of all, why are you so willing to dismiss
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  Speaker 1: the change in her voting record the way you have? Oh,
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  Speaker 1: it just works this way, I mean.
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  Speaker 2: But I'm also not going to suggest that I can
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  Speaker 2: read minds. The thing that you describe, which is an
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  Speaker 2: absolute possibility, is nothing we will ever know, and surely
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  Speaker 2: nothing she will ever admit. Well, first of all, she's
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  Speaker 2: going to say, well, you know, we're going to have
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  Speaker 2: some moments, some announcement from Amy Cony Barrett in the
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  Speaker 2: coming months that says, you know, I have come to
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  Speaker 2: realize that I have buckled and suspended my constitutional compass
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  Speaker 2: because of leftist threats, and as such, the constitution of
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  Speaker 2: the nation are not well served by my service anymore.
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  Speaker 2: And I hear by resign from the Supreme Court.
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  Speaker 1: She does need to say that. But if it's in
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  Speaker 1: her heart and if she thinks that to vote with
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  Speaker 1: the leftists, on that court, will put her, will give
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  Speaker 1: her family more safety. She's got her resign. You know,
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  Speaker 1: I've been thinking about something that we never talk about
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  Speaker 1: very often, and it's a huge story. Charlie Kirk wasn't
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  Speaker 1: just some random influencer that we barely knew. He was
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  Speaker 1: our colleague, Okay, you and I. You know, he was
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  Speaker 1: part of our lineup. He came on after me on
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  Speaker 1: the sale in Salem Media. We all knew him, we
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  Speaker 1: worked with him. We watched a coworker get gunned down. Now,
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  Speaker 1: don't think that hasn't crossed all of our minds about
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  Speaker 1: how any of us could ostensibly be in harm's way.
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  Speaker 1: And we all get threats, we all have koops, we
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  Speaker 1: all have people on our backs that that's just part
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  Speaker 1: of the gig. Unfortunately, if I, you or me started
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  Speaker 1: making up positions to try to appease the mob, the angry,
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  Speaker 1: violent people who are willing to carry out actual acts
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  Speaker 1: of murder to islands us, it'd be time for us
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  Speaker 1: to leave. It'd be time for us to hang up
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  Speaker 1: our our spurs and call it a day. Now. I'm
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  Speaker 1: not trying to equate big mouth talk show host with
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  Speaker 1: a Supreme Court justice, but the point is this, But
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  Speaker 1: it works because we cannot compromise what we do. And
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  Speaker 1: I get what you're saying. We'll never know. We may know,
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  Speaker 1: we will, she Mai, she may, you never know, she
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  Speaker 1: may make what she may somedays say yes, I have
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  Speaker 1: to admit my decisions were influenced by people on my
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  Speaker 1: doorsteps threatening to kill my kids. You don't think that's possible, Mark.
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  Speaker 2: Not a chance in any universe.
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  Speaker 1: You think it's a coincidence that her voting right, No,
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  Speaker 1: not necessarily. I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: That's what That's what happens when you seek to read minds,
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  Speaker 2: which no human being can do, is you're locked in
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  Speaker 2: the world of I don't know. I don't know. What
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  Speaker 2: I do know. Is this this fantasy that you have
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  Speaker 2: woven where she comes to us in an epiphany moment
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  Speaker 2: to come to us.
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  Speaker 1: She's not going to come to us. I'm not saying
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  Speaker 1: that she's not going to make a press conference like
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  Speaker 1: I said, that's coming to us where she comes to
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  Speaker 1: America missed and mysteriously steps down from the Supreme Court. Mark,
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  Speaker 1: But you know, are you dismissing the possible? Are you
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  Speaker 1: dismissing the possibility that her voting record has been impacted
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  Speaker 1: by the threats on her life and her family. I
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  Speaker 1: can't can't read minds. I thought, you're not dismissing it.
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  Speaker 1: So you're not dismissing it. You're saying you don't know
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  Speaker 1: if you knew, if you knew, if she confided in somebody. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I went a little light on this decision. Yeah, I
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  Speaker 1: went with them on that decision. If you knew that
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  Speaker 1: should she step down, yes, absolutely good.
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  Speaker 2: And if she were a family friend or something and
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  Speaker 2: she were confiding as if anybody would ever do this,
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  Speaker 2: it's like, listen, I gotta I gotta tell you. There
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  Speaker 2: have been a couple of rulings where I kind of
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  Speaker 2: fudged on against my constitutional hardline because I thought I
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  Speaker 2: might take a bullet and.
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  Speaker 1: Said, you gotta, you gotta go. So you gotta guessoute.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, you got the notion that this will happen, the
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  Speaker 2: notion that she will reach the conclusion publicly and remove
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  Speaker 2: hers Amy Coney Barrett will be eighty on the Supreme Court,
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  Speaker 2: I guarantee you.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I'm not so sure. I know people are furious
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  Speaker 1: and and and you know, it's hard to take away
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  Speaker 1: the reality that this woman voted for birthright citizenship. This
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  Speaker 1: is a woman who is protecting people to destroy this country.
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  Speaker 1: She is protecting people to be able to come in
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  Speaker 1: here and pop out a baby and say, oh my kids,
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  Speaker 1: now an American citizen. And you know she's going to
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  Speaker 1: get beefed up security. But a whole lot of American
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  Speaker 1: citizens who are facing the violence at the hands of
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  Speaker 1: illegal immigrants, they don't get beefed up security security for them.
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  Speaker 1: There by the way, let's go O for two. I
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  Speaker 1: said that said real quick, they're all just as an issue.
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  Speaker 1: Give Supreme Court justices from Amy Coney Barrett to Elena Kagan,
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  Speaker 1: Declarence Thomas to Samuel Lito. If they do need a
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  Speaker 1: little more protection, let's give it to them. Oh, I
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  Speaker 1: don't disagree with that. These these are important people, and
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  Speaker 1: all of them, I think senators, all of them, you know,
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  Speaker 1: all of them. Look, it's violent out there. These people
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  Speaker 1: are nuts. I just saw a video from a kid
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  Speaker 1: in Texas, Corpus Christie, who apparently works at a FedEx,
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  Speaker 1: who went on social media and said, yeah, we need
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  Speaker 1: to start popping these ice agents. We need to start
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  Speaker 1: taking them out, these ice officers, and we got to say,
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  Speaker 1: if we kill one of them, oops oops. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: now this kid's been identified, I'm not sure what his
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  Speaker 1: future is going to look like. They're at the old
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  Speaker 1: FedEx and Corpus Christie, right, but they're but they're violent people.
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  Speaker 1: Look again, our colleague, Mark is this is not off
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  Speaker 1: in the distance. This is somebody we worked with and
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  Speaker 1: they're they're capable of doing it. Let's go over too.
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  Speaker 1: I want to get you in more trouble. I want
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  Speaker 1: to get you in more hot water. You know how.
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  Speaker 1: You know the Senate's going to block this permanent dayly and.
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  Speaker 2: I'm I'm not gonna, you know, die on that hill
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  Speaker 2: because I've somehow managed to live with changing the clocks.
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  Speaker 1: You know what I love about your position? You know
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  Speaker 1: what I love about your position, And I'm more on
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  Speaker 1: a roll today. You don't care about early mornings and
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  Speaker 1: kids going to school because you don't have any kids
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  Speaker 1: going to school anymore. You care about five o'clock at
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  Speaker 1: night when the.
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  Speaker 2: Kids worth three and twelve. I totally felt this way.
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  Speaker 2: I've never changed my mind about this. Everything is a
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  Speaker 2: trade off. I mean, how about if I try to
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  Speaker 2: hang it around the neck of somebody who is against
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  Speaker 2: me on this and says, hey, if a kid gets
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  Speaker 2: killed playing street football at six, there's gonna be darkness.
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  Speaker 1: It's a trade off. There's no magic solution, no more
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  Speaker 1: flipping darkness at five thirty PM. That's my line of
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  Speaker 1: the sand. And I know that some people are saying
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  Speaker 1: that we do you remember? Do you remember when we
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  Speaker 1: did this in nineteen seventy four? I don't. I don't.
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  Speaker 1: I look, I could put in a thimble how much
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  Speaker 1: I care about the time clock changes. I mean, it's
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  Speaker 1: kind of a pain in the neck. The counter argument, though,
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  Speaker 1: that I keep seeing everywhere, is, if you're not great,
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  Speaker 1: let's not flip the clocks. But it shouldn't be permanent
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  Speaker 1: daylight savings out of your permanent standard time. But then
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  Speaker 1: it's still dark at five thirty. No, Mark does not
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  Speaker 1: want darkness at five thirty exactly. That's I love school.
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  Speaker 1: Start school an hour later. You hate kids, you hate
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  Speaker 1: they're on there, you get I'll get that wiffle ball
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  Speaker 1: out of my Yeah. Yet, did I hit that kid
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  Speaker 1: on the way to school this morning? Oh? Well, too bad?
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  Speaker 1: You know he should have he should offended for himself.
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  Speaker 2: On yesterday's eminem Extra Mike blocked somebody in real time
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  Speaker 2: off I loved it.
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  Speaker 1: Right in the middle of the country, that's multitasking. You
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  Speaker 1: and I are talking and you know, one block trolls,
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  Speaker 1: not you're you're not acknowledged. You you're not recognized, not recognized,
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  Speaker 1: You're not recognized. I love you.