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Katie Woolf spoke with Deputy Opposition Leader Gerard Maley · 360 with Katie Woolf

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  Speaker 1: Three sixty with Katie Wolf thanks to Joyce Main Darwin
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  Speaker 1: Homes owned Stuart Highway Berrimer.
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  Speaker 2: We've had a lot of political discussion this morning. Obviously
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  Speaker 2: the Health Minister Natasha Files on the show with us
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  Speaker 2: earlier this morning. We just spoke to Jamie de Brenny
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  Speaker 2: about this situation with accusations that Senator Sam McMahon intoxicated
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  Speaker 2: earlier in the week and well. Now joining us in
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  Speaker 2: the studio is the Deputy Opposition Leader Jared Maylee. Good
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  Speaker 2: morning to you.
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  Speaker 1: Good morning Katie, Good morning listeners.
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  Speaker 2: Now we have been speaking quite extensively throughout the week
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  Speaker 2: about some of the comments that were made by the
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  Speaker 2: IKA Commissioner in the estimates process last week. Now the
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  Speaker 2: colp is demanding a full scale parliamentary probe now into
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  Speaker 2: the ikak Act, not a closed door in house audit
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  Speaker 2: by the Gunner government. Jered, why do you think this
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  Speaker 2: is important?
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  Speaker 1: Okatie?
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  Speaker 3: Look, this is important because I think Territorians have lost
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  Speaker 3: confidence in the Commissioner and the Commission. The Commissioner the
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  Speaker 3: Commission was set up as a very important body to
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  Speaker 3: stamp out any corruption or have an avenue for investigation
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  Speaker 3: of corruption, and I think that's in a very important
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  Speaker 3: job and it should be a very high standing of
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  Speaker 3: the Commission and the Commissioner. Unfortunately there's been eras of judgment,
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  Speaker 3: lost emails, outspoken statements. I really believe that the Commission
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  Speaker 3: should be a person who's sitting behind there doing the
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  Speaker 3: work and not outgrandstanding and making statements, and unfortunately the
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  Speaker 3: Commissioner has done that.
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  Speaker 1: I know he's going and he's moving on.
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  Speaker 3: I'm not sure I've never met the new Commissioner, but
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  Speaker 3: I think the Commission itself has been damaged and now
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  Speaker 3: it's time for a review because we need that confidence back.
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  Speaker 3: And the only way to get the confidence back is
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  Speaker 3: to a full scale review, to allow people public people
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  Speaker 3: to come in and make submissions, different organizations and stakeholders
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  Speaker 3: to make submissions, because maybe there's a different model that
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  Speaker 3: the IK could be put in foalse here because quite frankly,
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  Speaker 3: the Commission at this as it stands, over the last
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  Speaker 3: two and a bit years hasn't really performed to what
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  Speaker 3: I expected.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I know that there were serious concerns earlier in
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  Speaker 2: the week and late last week, I should say, or
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  Speaker 2: even early last week, following on from those comments that
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  Speaker 2: were made by the KA Commissioner inside estimates. Now we
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  Speaker 2: know that Matt Cunningham today is reporting that the whistleblower
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  Speaker 2: who reported allegations of inappropriate conduct within the anti corruption
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  Speaker 2: watchdog has asked to formally respond to the K Commissioner
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  Speaker 2: Ken Fleming during Well hope, during a parliamentary hearing. Do
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  Speaker 2: you have any idea when that's going to happen or
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  Speaker 2: if that's going to happen.
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  Speaker 1: No, Okay, I'm not really sure.
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  Speaker 3: I understand that there has been an application made and
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  Speaker 3: I think there was a meeting between the Estimate Committee
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  Speaker 3: and I'm not sure if the outcome is yet, but
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  Speaker 3: I know that there is a process where that that person,
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  Speaker 3: if the committee accepts it, can come in and give
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  Speaker 3: evidence and that evidence can be done in the public
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  Speaker 3: eye or it can be in camera, which is in private.
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  Speaker 1: So I'm not sure how what's going to work.
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  Speaker 2: All right, we will wait and see exactly what the
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  Speaker 2: situation is there. We're going to catch up with Matt
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  Speaker 2: Cunningham after ten o'clock this morning as well. But just
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  Speaker 2: on these calls obviously from the COLP for a full
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  Speaker 2: scale parliamentary probe, what would this look like?
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  Speaker 3: Well, we could have a select committee made up in
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  Speaker 3: the Parliament to be able to hold public hearings, take submission,
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  Speaker 3: consider evidence to really work out what's the best way
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  Speaker 3: to put the ICAK back up where it should be
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  Speaker 3: as an institution with a very high standing and well
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  Speaker 3: regarded within the Northern Territory.
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  Speaker 2: Now, the Health Minister Natasha Files was on the show
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  Speaker 2: earlier this morning. I asked her about this. She said
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  Speaker 2: that she believes the report by Greg Shanahan is going
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  Speaker 2: to be adequate. What would you say to that.
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  Speaker 3: Well, it's really about what's in the best inche of
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  Speaker 3: territori ins Kadie. Territorians have lost confidence in the IKAQ
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  Speaker 3: and that needs to be rebuilt and it's not going
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  Speaker 3: to be rebuilt by a closed door review with one
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  Speaker 3: person we don't even know have the terms or that
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  Speaker 3: condition of that review is. So it really needs to
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  Speaker 3: be out there in the open start again and do
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  Speaker 3: it for territory and have some countability, have them say
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  Speaker 3: about how this all works and to put that confidence
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  Speaker 3: back into the to the IKAK.
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  Speaker 2: Jared, what's going to be the process from the colp's
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  Speaker 2: perspective today in terms of pushing for this to happen.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, we're going to move a motion to form a
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  Speaker 3: select committee today and then there will be a vote
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  Speaker 3: on that. And I'm not sure how their vote's going
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  Speaker 3: to be, but the CELP will be certainly voting for it.
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  Speaker 1: And it will really be in the hands off.
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  Speaker 3: The Labor government whether they are open to accept it
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  Speaker 3: and accept the scrutiny or they're going to just close
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  Speaker 3: the door and say we can do it in the
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  Speaker 3: House and not listen to territories and more important, not
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  Speaker 3: allow territorians to make submissions to this review.
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  Speaker 2: Realistically, you'd need someone to cross the floor, wouldn't you to, Like,
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  Speaker 2: you'd need someone from the Labour Party to vote with
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  Speaker 2: you guys to have the numbers for this to happen.
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  Speaker 3: We would, But ultimately it's not really about crossing for
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  Speaker 3: Labour need to do the best for the territories, not
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  Speaker 3: for themselves here. They really need to make sure that
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  Speaker 3: they're acting in the best interests of all Territorians and
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  Speaker 3: not in the best interests off the Labor Party. The
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  Speaker 3: sealper out there trying to talk to territories and listen
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  Speaker 3: to territorians and that's what Labour need to do as well.
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  Speaker 2: Jared it has been a big few days or a
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  Speaker 2: big couple of weeks. I guess you'd say in parliamentary estimates.
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  Speaker 2: You were in there yesterday, anything interesting that our listeners
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  Speaker 2: should be aware of.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, there's been all sorts of questions asked, and we asked.
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  Speaker 3: I asked some questions yesterday on about the youth of
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  Speaker 3: venders having bail and guess what taken on notice? So
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  Speaker 3: you know, there's no way that the Labor government couldn't
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  Speaker 3: anticipate these questions are coming. And again there's just been
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  Speaker 3: questions taken on notice left, ron and center, and again
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  Speaker 3: just answering the questions with I see is it read?
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  Speaker 3: And they talk it's about something blue, So it's just
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  Speaker 3: not getting to the bottom of it. And unfortunately we
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  Speaker 3: asked the question again and again, and then the answer
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  Speaker 3: is I've already answered the question.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, with those questions on notice, how long does the
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  Speaker 2: government have to be able to provide you answers to those?
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  Speaker 2: And then obviously I'm assuming they'll get made public, like
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  Speaker 2: there's a period of time, yes.
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  Speaker 3: And look, I'm pretty sure it's see in January, so
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  Speaker 3: I think it's a month after it. Yeah, because it
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  Speaker 3: was in January last time, so it's about a month
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  Speaker 3: to get in.
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  Speaker 1: Notice.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, one of the other things I'm keen to just
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  Speaker 2: speak to speak to you about. And Sarah who's on
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  Speaker 2: breakfast here on Mix and she and Andrew have been
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  Speaker 2: talking about this over the last couple of days. She
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  Speaker 2: lives out in the rural area. It's something you and
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  Speaker 2: I have discussed before, and Keesier Puric and I a
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  Speaker 2: couple of times. We know that the government has released
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  Speaker 2: that discussion paper on the use of land around Palmerston
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  Speaker 2: and it also includes Holts and Kwandy. Where are we
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  Speaker 2: at with this and do those submissions actually close? Are
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  Speaker 2: they closing this weekend?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, they're closing tomorrow, Ocadion, just go back one step
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  Speaker 3: the nineenth of July when those questions are noticed, are.
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  Speaker 2: You oh nineteenth of July? Okay? Cool?
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  Speaker 3: So look, so back to the rural area. Yes, we're
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  Speaker 3: talking about the Holts and Kuwandi area. Michael Gonna came
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  Speaker 3: out and said there's going to be over five thousand
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  Speaker 3: residents in that area and made a public statement around
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  Speaker 3: budget time. And what I'm worried about is that he's
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  Speaker 3: just the Planning commissioner just going to rub a stamp
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  Speaker 3: that deal I've met. I've had three public meetings myself.
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  Speaker 3: I've been to another one. I've been to four public
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  Speaker 3: meetings of concerned rural residents and there is a genuine
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  Speaker 3: concern out there about what's happening in our area. People
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  Speaker 3: don't want another small parmesan backing up because remember, there's
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  Speaker 3: a whole range of rural blocks or in that area
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  Speaker 3: we're talking over on stow Row, we're talking about Howard
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  Speaker 3: River Park, and then we're talking about in general that
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  Speaker 3: all the extra traffic that's going to flow around that
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  Speaker 3: area due to that population. We're talking ten thousand people there.
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  Speaker 2: Right, So, so have people gotten toil? When have they
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  Speaker 2: gotten to to make sure that their voices are heard
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  Speaker 2: in terms of an actual sort of submission or you know,
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  Speaker 2: making sure that they jump online and have their say.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, okay, there's the planning Commission. Wh've got to have
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  Speaker 1: their say.
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  Speaker 3: Website which closes the tomorrow, the twenty fifth, And I
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  Speaker 3: encourage as many people as possible to make a submission.
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  Speaker 3: And even if you're not confident and you don't need
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  Speaker 3: heaps and heaps of words, some dot points just put
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  Speaker 3: your view across too. So the territories can say we've listened.
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  Speaker 3: I know, so we've spoken and it's up to the
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  Speaker 3: Planning Commission to make a report to the government and
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  Speaker 3: then the government need to listen to.
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  Speaker 2: That well, Deputy Opposition Leader Jared Mayley, we always appreciate
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  Speaker 2: your time this morning. Thanks so much for coming into
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  Speaker 2: the studio.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you and thank you for listeners.