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Chuck & Buck 11-13 Hour 4: MLB Network's Alex Avila, Mike Sando and one last thing. · Chuck in the Morning

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  Speaker 1: All right, nine o'clock hour here on this Thursday, man.
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  Speaker 1: Have we discussed the MVP of the Major League Baseball
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  Speaker 1: season a lot this calendar year, and for good reason.
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  Speaker 1: You can't spell calendar without cal cal Raleigh and Aaron Judge.
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  Speaker 1: One of those two is going to be named Most
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  Speaker 1: Valuable Player tonight of of the American League. And you
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  Speaker 1: can catch the coverage at MLB Network. They have exclusive
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  Speaker 1: coverage of the MVP award results. It's going to start
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  Speaker 1: at four pm our time, and you can watch our
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  Speaker 1: next guest, you know, break it down for you. We're
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  Speaker 1: gonna have to break it down for us right now.
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  Speaker 1: Thirteen year major League Baseball catcher, mostly with the Tigers.
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  Speaker 2: Sorry about having to beat you.
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  Speaker 1: Alex Avila now joins us right here on Chuck and Buck.
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  Speaker 3: Good morning, sir, Good morning guys. Appreciate you having me,
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  Speaker 3: And that's all right. It was one of a series,
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  Speaker 3: wasn't it, That Tiger's Mariners series, So, like you know,
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  Speaker 3: it's one of those where, yeah, I might have had
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  Speaker 3: a little bit of you know, rooting for the Tigers,
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  Speaker 3: but at the same time, I wasn't upset to see
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  Speaker 3: the Mariners move on at that point.
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  Speaker 2: Well, thank you for joining us. We appreciated it.
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  Speaker 1: I'm really curious to get your thoughts on this MVP
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  Speaker 1: decision tonight. And I don't know if there's bias because
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  Speaker 1: you're a catcher. I mean, does every catcher have to
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  Speaker 1: vote for Cal for m V p Alex?
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  Speaker 3: You know, I think most catchers would tell you yes, okay,
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  Speaker 3: you know, and just and just because of you know,
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  Speaker 3: you don't you don't really understand what a catcher goes
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  Speaker 3: through unless you're a catcher, right, and you know, to
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  Speaker 3: see what Cal did over the course of the whole year,
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  Speaker 3: I mean, it was was truly remarkable having been through that,
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  Speaker 3: so I think most catchers would say, yeah, like, if
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  Speaker 3: you have a guy like Cal that has a year
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  Speaker 3: like he had a historic season, you know, that's definitely
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  Speaker 3: merits to the MVP. But like you said, we were
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  Speaker 3: we were debating this all year because it's it's the
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  Speaker 3: best probably MVP race that we've had in a long
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  Speaker 3: time and probably probably And it kind of reminds me
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  Speaker 3: and I go back to twenty twelve MVP race between
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  Speaker 3: Cabrera and Mike Trout. That's what it kind of reminds
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  Speaker 3: me of that a little bit because you know, Trout
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  Speaker 3: was by far the most valuable player you know from
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  Speaker 3: from the way he can impact the game at that
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  Speaker 3: point in time. But Cabrera won a triple crown, so
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  Speaker 3: it was like, you know, what do you what do
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  Speaker 3: you do there? In a similar situation, you have Aaron
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  Speaker 3: Judge right that has you know, incredible numbers, historic season
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  Speaker 3: and his own right, but you know the season that
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  Speaker 3: caw had breaking the you know, homer record first a
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  Speaker 3: switch hitter, you know, for a catcher and a Mariners
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  Speaker 3: franchise record, Like, how do you not fall in love
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  Speaker 3: with that story?
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  Speaker 4: One hundred percent?
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  Speaker 5: And yet to me and correct me if I'm wrong,
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  Speaker 5: give me the catcher's perspective. I mean, although I played,
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  Speaker 5: I didn't catch outside of a week where my college
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  Speaker 5: coach thought, hey, let's try this out. I did one
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  Speaker 5: session of blocking balls and said, yeah, no thanks, I'll
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  Speaker 5: get back out in right field. So I understand the
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  Speaker 5: difference just having played as long as I did. To me,
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  Speaker 5: it's not even the I mean the historic numbers he
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  Speaker 5: put up as a switch hitter and a catcher home
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  Speaker 5: run wise, sure, but I mean when it comes to
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  Speaker 5: just comparing offenses, I think the reason it's a debate
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  Speaker 5: at all is because is because you know, cal did
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  Speaker 5: great offensively, but it's not he didn't even compare offensively
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  Speaker 5: to what the numbers I think that that Judge put up.
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  Speaker 5: To me, it's the it's the other stuff. It's the
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  Speaker 5: pitch selection and calling a game. It's the framing balls,
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  Speaker 5: it's blocking wild pitches, it's whearing if foul balls are
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  Speaker 5: throwing out base runners, and you know, managing your pitching
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  Speaker 5: staff mentally and and going out there and mound visits
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  Speaker 5: and helping them through tough times. I mean, to me,
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  Speaker 5: that's where you can't put a number on that stuff.
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  Speaker 5: Necessarily they try to, but you can't put a number
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  Speaker 5: on all that stuff. And to me, that's where it
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  Speaker 5: doesn't even feel like it's a it's a legitimate competition
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  Speaker 5: in my opinion, even though I'm giving Judge all the
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  Speaker 5: credit he deserves for the outstanding performance he did offensively.
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  Speaker 3: No, I mean, I agree with you. I think that's
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  Speaker 3: where it separates, at least in my eyes. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: because when you look at judges numbers, he led major
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  Speaker 3: league baseball, not just the American League, major league baseball
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  Speaker 3: in every single offensive category. And then when you look
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  Speaker 3: at you know, America obviously an American league. Cal has
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  Speaker 3: got him in Homer's and RBIs. But like judges judges season,
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  Speaker 3: like you're you're talking about guys like Mickey Mann Old
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  Speaker 3: Jimmy Fox, like you know his he's going to go
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  Speaker 3: down as a legendary player. But you know, I also
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  Speaker 3: look at it when when when it comes to MVP,
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  Speaker 3: it's obviously you know, value to your team. You know
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  Speaker 3: what Cal was able to do for the Mariners over
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  Speaker 3: the course of the year, really put them on his
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  Speaker 3: shoulders over the course of the year, propel them into
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  Speaker 3: the playoffs, get deep into the playoffs. I mean, you
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  Speaker 3: can see it the way Cal is playing through the playoffs,
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  Speaker 3: Like you could tell he was tired, like his like
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  Speaker 3: he was giving absolutely everything he had physically and still
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  Speaker 3: producing at an incredibly high level. But like you know,
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  Speaker 3: from a player's perspective, watching the games through the course
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  Speaker 3: of the playoffs, you could tell like man like like
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  Speaker 3: he was giving everything he had. So I think that
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  Speaker 3: and you know when you put that together with the
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  Speaker 3: type of season he had from historical historical perspective as
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  Speaker 3: a catcher and a switch hitter, I just I fell
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  Speaker 3: in love with the story, and I think the narrative,
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  Speaker 3: you know, the story when you have you know, that
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  Speaker 3: kind of season should play into, you know, the decision
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  Speaker 3: on on on the most valuable player, because Cal was
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  Speaker 3: to his team, to the Mariners, you know, the most
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  Speaker 3: valuable guide. And I'm not I'm not a big fan
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  Speaker 3: of the whole debate. Well, if you take him off
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  Speaker 3: the team, does the team still do that? Like a
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  Speaker 3: lot of people are trying to talk about that with
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  Speaker 3: Judge all the Yankees still be a good team? Would
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  Speaker 3: the Mariners be as good without Cal? All that kind
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  Speaker 3: of stuff. To me, I put I put that that
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  Speaker 3: out the window. For me, It's more about, like you know,
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  Speaker 3: with them actually on the team, let's debase them on
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  Speaker 3: the team and what their value is to that team.
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  Speaker 3: The type of narrative that is throughout that that that
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  Speaker 3: developed throughout the season because of their incredible performance. I
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  Speaker 3: think that all should play into into the decision. But
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  Speaker 3: there is, like you said, so much more that goes
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  Speaker 3: into what a catcher does on a daily basis that
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  Speaker 3: is impossible to quantify in terms of value for your team.
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  Speaker 3: That you know, Cal obviously brought that to the Mariners
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  Speaker 3: and and I'd even think, like Judge would tell you, Yeah, obviously,
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  Speaker 3: you know, a catcher's got a lot more on his
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  Speaker 3: plate than than an outfielder does on a daily basis,
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  Speaker 3: and you know, to be able to do that and
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  Speaker 3: put up the type of numbers from an offensive perspective
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  Speaker 3: he did, Uh, and also have another very good season
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  Speaker 3: behind the plate. I mean it for me, it's hard
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  Speaker 3: to it's hard to argue, but to your point, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: I mean the season that Judge has, Like, that's why
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  Speaker 3: this is at debate.
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  Speaker 1: Plus, i mean, cal Rally is a human being and
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  Speaker 1: Aaron Judge is a centaur, and I think that.
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  Speaker 2: Should factor that to the conversation.
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  Speaker 1: And it's not factoring in enough, and the conversations I'm here,
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  Speaker 1: it's not even coming up. Alex Savila is with his
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  Speaker 1: former major league catcher member of the Major League Baseball Network.
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  Speaker 1: He'll be a part of the network that does the
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  Speaker 1: next outstanding job their coverage of the MVP announcement tonight
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  Speaker 1: at four o'clock.
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  Speaker 4: What is it?
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  Speaker 2: I mean if somebody, just average Yankee fan sat by
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  Speaker 2: you and said, why.
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  Speaker 1: Is it so much more important that he played catcher?
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  Speaker 1: Why is that even a factor? Give us some insight
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  Speaker 1: into what even the average baseball fan doesn't understand. What
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  Speaker 1: a catcher goes through on a year by year basis
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  Speaker 1: and a day by day basis.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I mean, the one thing is that a catcher,
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  Speaker 3: their first priority is the picture. So most of your
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  Speaker 3: day revolves around trying to help that picture be the
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  Speaker 3: best he can on that particular day, and not just
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  Speaker 3: your starting pitcher, but all your levers as well. So
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  Speaker 3: that's your number one priority. And every catcher would tell
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  Speaker 3: you that, even even the really good offensive catchers you
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  Speaker 3: know that we've had throughout history, their number one priority
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  Speaker 3: is the success of their pitcher. So your day revolves
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  Speaker 3: around him, you know, from you know game prep, you know,
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  Speaker 3: knowing the ins and outs of all of your guys
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  Speaker 3: as far as what makes them tick, how to motivate them,
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  Speaker 3: how to get them through tough situations, how to keep
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  Speaker 3: them grounded at times like all those things going to play.
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  Speaker 3: That's part of your responsibility as a catcher, and that
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  Speaker 3: is your number one responsibility. Then after that comes like
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  Speaker 3: what you can do for yourself and for your team offensively.
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  Speaker 3: So that's that's the biggest difference where every other position
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  Speaker 3: on the field you know, is the priority is that
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  Speaker 3: position and what you can bring from an offense some
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  Speaker 3: defensive perspective, but the catcher, your your responsibility is the pitcher.
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  Speaker 3: And then on top of that, just the physicality of
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  Speaker 3: the position, you know, just having you know, blocking balls,
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  Speaker 3: you know, the the wear and tear on the body
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  Speaker 3: over the course of a of an entire season, especially
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  Speaker 3: when you catch as many innings as col does. You know,
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  Speaker 3: there's there's no other position that comes close to the
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  Speaker 3: type of physical demand under body.
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  Speaker 1: The year you hit nineteen and we're an All Star
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  Speaker 1: in twenty eleven, you probably thought you did something pretty
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  Speaker 1: special that year, didn't you.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I actually got some down m VP boats from
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  Speaker 3: that in that season exactly. And I'm looking at those
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  Speaker 3: numbers and you know, obviously Cow Cow's numbers dwarf those
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  Speaker 3: in comparison.
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  Speaker 1: You had a fantastic career. You were you were a
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  Speaker 1: lot of fun to watch. So enjoy the show tonight.
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  Speaker 1: Do you think Cal's gonna win? I can tell you
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  Speaker 1: want Cal to win. Do you think he's gonna win?
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  Speaker 1: Do you think that we'll have something to celebrate tonight
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  Speaker 1: here in Seattle?
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  Speaker 3: You know, I hope so I'm rooting for Caw to win.
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  Speaker 3: I've said it a few times over the course of
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  Speaker 3: the year that I, for some reason, I think it's judge,
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  Speaker 3: you know. But at the same time, like I'm I'm
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  Speaker 3: rooting for Cal to do it because I think he
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  Speaker 3: he absolutely deserves it. So I hope, I hope I'm wrong.
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  Speaker 3: But nonetheless, it was a it was a fascinating season
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  Speaker 3: to have two tremendous players like that have the years
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  Speaker 3: that they had. But I'm definitely rooting for Cal.
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  Speaker 1: All right, great to hear. Well, we'll be watching tonight.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you very much for your time.
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  Speaker 4: That was great. Thanks guys.
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  Speaker 1: All Right, Alex Avila, thirteen year catcher in the major leagues.
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  Speaker 1: Catchers are going to be a little bit biased, But
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  Speaker 1: you also need to know I thought that it was
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  Speaker 1: such a fascinating response. I mean, think about that, Bucky.
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  Speaker 1: I know you know this, but I had sixty home
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  Speaker 1: runs this year, and my focus wasn't the offense my
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  Speaker 1: offense at any time during the season. My focus was
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  Speaker 1: making sure the pitcher was ready to give us a
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  Speaker 1: great performance. That's incredible.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, well, I mean that's again that you can't really
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  Speaker 5: you can't really qualify all of the ways in which
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  Speaker 5: you want to measure. It just boils down to where
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  Speaker 5: do you put more of the lion's share?
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  Speaker 4: Right? Is it?
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  Speaker 5: The fact that will you just watch Judge do again
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  Speaker 5: was something that we have rarely seen. We haven't seen
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  Speaker 5: anybody co come by and just turn into this much
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  Speaker 5: of a dominant hit.
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  Speaker 4: Or power average, on base percentage.
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  Speaker 5: He just basically when he steps in the batter's box,
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  Speaker 5: You're like, this guy doesn't even look human. But to me,
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  Speaker 5: I just can't understand how how you can think about
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  Speaker 5: what all the things that a catcher does and then
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  Speaker 5: records even when I if I was to sit here
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  Speaker 5: and go down the list, I kind of just did
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  Speaker 5: a little bit with him of all the things that
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  Speaker 5: a catcher is involved in that are impact parts of
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  Speaker 5: the game that a right fielder has nothing to do with.
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  Speaker 2: You know.
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  Speaker 5: And then you can get somewhere it's like, okay, well,
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  Speaker 5: you know, plays at home plate, Okay, that's a catch thing,
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  Speaker 5: but a lot of times the right fielder's throw is
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  Speaker 5: what makes it a play at home plate, so they
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  Speaker 5: can have some impact on the game. Still defensively, there's
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  Speaker 5: a lot of things, but then there's a ton of
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  Speaker 5: things that you can't even think about, like when do
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  Speaker 5: you got now that there's a certain amount of mound visits,
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  Speaker 5: when do you go out to write the ship with
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  Speaker 5: the guy between the years or mechanically something he's doing,
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  Speaker 5: or game plan wise, here's what our game plan was
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  Speaker 5: against this guy, you know, leading into the game and
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  Speaker 5: our pregame meeting and leading up to this performance. And
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  Speaker 5: yet he looks like he's on that game plan, like
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  Speaker 5: he was expecting it. So we're gonna shift gears, when
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  Speaker 5: do you do that? That's you can't put a number
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  Speaker 5: on that. And he does that about as well as
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  Speaker 5: anybody out there, throwing runners out. He's great at This
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  Speaker 5: year was his best year behind the plate, blocking balls,
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  Speaker 5: but it still wasn't horror And so I just I
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  Speaker 5: just don't see it as I mean, the.
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  Speaker 4: Major league baseball player. I don't.
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  Speaker 5: I don't always agree with players voting for things because
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  Speaker 5: I think it becomes a popularity contest and it's not
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  Speaker 5: something they dive into necessarily. But he was voted the
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  Speaker 5: most outstanding player by his peers. The people that are
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  Speaker 5: playing right now in the game right now, to me,
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  Speaker 5: that is those guys that are playing right now that
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  Speaker 5: they're in the game, they play against him, they watch
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  Speaker 5: him play, They're saying, that's the dude that is the
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  Speaker 5: most outstanding. And to me, it's if you say outstanding player,
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  Speaker 5: that's where Judge has an argument, you say the most
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  Speaker 5: valuable player. I don't even think it's a I don't
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  Speaker 5: even think it should be a debate, to be honest,
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  Speaker 5: it is because of how great Aaron Judge's season was.
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  Speaker 5: But it's the value that Cal Rawly brings to the Mariners.
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  Speaker 5: There's nobody that brings more value to their team.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I would definitely have voted for Cal Raleigh, and
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  Speaker 1: I say that without bias. I honestly mean that. I
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  Speaker 1: say that completely without bias. But I do think I'm
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  Speaker 1: six one percent sure he's not going to win, So
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  Speaker 1: I gives him a thirty nine percent chance of winning tonight.
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  Speaker 1: So that's where I'm at. I don't think we're going
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  Speaker 1: to get the news we're wanting tonight, but I think
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  Speaker 1: that there is a chance, Ashley, that we're going to
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  Speaker 1: get that news.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, and I'm holding on to hope. I will say this,
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  Speaker 6: I do think that Cal should win it, and I
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  Speaker 6: know that I have bias when I say that originally,
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  Speaker 6: but also hearing all of the arguments and listening to
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  Speaker 6: things and as we've talked about it over the last
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  Speaker 6: few weeks and months, and thinking about all of the
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  Speaker 6: things that cat pitchers do and just hearing what Alex
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  Speaker 6: had to say.
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  Speaker 7: I mean, I have zero doubt that cal should win.
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  Speaker 4: Well.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, just to be fair, just to show the
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  Speaker 2: other side, there are plenty of former major leaguers at
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  Speaker 2: MLB Network that you're gonna hear.
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  Speaker 1: Tonight break this down that think Aaron Judge should win.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, Sean Casey has gone off. We tried to
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  Speaker 1: get Sean Casey on as well today and he's he's
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  Speaker 1: been one hundred percent on Aaron Judge.
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  Speaker 2: It's not even close. I mean, so it's it's you know,
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  Speaker 2: there are plenty of MLB Network former players that have
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  Speaker 2: the airon Judge. There might even be more for all
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  Speaker 2: I know. But yeah, I don't think there's one catcher
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  Speaker 2: out there that's not that if they had a vote,
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  Speaker 2: wouldn't vote for col No.
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  Speaker 5: And I think that that's it isn't just because of
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  Speaker 5: they go some catcher brotherhood. It's because of an understanding
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  Speaker 5: of how crazy it was if you caught in the
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  Speaker 5: big leagues for ten years, you understand, Oh my god.
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  Speaker 4: How is he?
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  Speaker 5: Yes, the numbers, sixty home runs is crazy. I don't
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  Speaker 5: care if you're a DH it's crazy. But to do
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  Speaker 5: it while you're catching and managing the staff and wearing
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  Speaker 5: the foul balls and blocking, it's just absolutely berserk.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, Chris Young, he's on the judge side, Cliff Flowyer
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  Speaker 1: air a lot of them.
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  Speaker 2: So, but you want to convince me. I think you
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  Speaker 2: should win the MVP.
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  Speaker 1: But we shall see if it goes down tonight, and
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  Speaker 1: certainly we'll react on tomorrow's show. Coming up next though,
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  Speaker 1: Mike Sando will be with us, we'll ask him about
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  Speaker 4: Here's Chuck and bud Hi.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, Mike Sando joins this each and every week.
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  Speaker 1: Let's ask Mike real quick. He's a smart fella. Cal
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: Rally or Aaron judge.
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: Mike cal Raleio. Let's go with the hometown guy. I mean,
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: and I'm an expert, believe me. I've I've watched some
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: of the playoffs and uh, I'm actually excited. Are we
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: gonna get the Mariners on local TV? Here? If you have, like,
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: you know, a YouTube TV, I wanted to have that.
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: What does it matter with you? You know? I get like
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: it doesn't sound like you're tuned in.
• 17:36
  Speaker 7: No.
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: Well, I mean, I'm not gonna work that hard to
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: watch the games, but I mean, you know, in a
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: sport I'm not covering, but I'm interested. So I'm a
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: terrible expert in that. But cal rally, that guy's amazing.
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: I know enough of that. Okay, every time you, even
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: if you don't follow baseball, you realize he's doing something
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: heroic every week. All Right, all right, we'll take it.
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: We'll accept it. Your vote has been cast. All Right, Well,
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: let's talk about what you do cover for a living
• 17:59
  Speaker 2: and what you do have incredible passion for.
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: That's the National Football League. You watched a lot of games,
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: you got ready for a lot of games.
• 18:07
  Speaker 4: I mean, how.
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: Big is this one between the Seahawks and the Rams
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: for a mid season affair?
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: I think it's the most fun anticipated regular season matchup
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: for the Seahawks since when. I mean it would have
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: to go back to prime Russell Wilson, right. I mean,
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: it's been a while that you really felt like it's
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: a great matchup and you're excited and you feel like
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: these guys could you know, not only if they could
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: win the game, but like they could really go somewhere.
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: So I love it. I think these are two of
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: the best teams in the league. When's the last times
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: been one of the best teams in the league. It's
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: been top five team nine years. Probably, Yeah, in a minute,
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: it feels really different. So I love it. Yet, I
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: feel like if the Seahawks lose, I think they just
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: dust themselves off and get them next time. I don't
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: think it's a must win, but I do think it's
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: a help full win for validity, you know, is having
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: Sam Donald had the bad playoff game last time, so
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: there's some things that can be changed perception wise, I
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: think with this game. But I still think Seattle's on
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: the same track no matter what happens.
• 19:12
  Speaker 5: Agreed, I don't think either team has some signature win.
• 19:17
  Speaker 5: This is kind of the measuring stick for both of them.
• 19:19
  Speaker 5: I mean, the easiest or the most common like thread
• 19:24
  Speaker 5: to poll on when you're thinking about this is McVeigh
• 19:26
  Speaker 5: and his offense versus McDonald and his defense. And yet
• 19:31
  Speaker 5: both sides of the ball play well on both of
• 19:34
  Speaker 5: these teams. And so what's an underlying thing that you're
• 19:37
  Speaker 5: going to think that you think might be one of
• 19:40
  Speaker 5: the determining factors in this thing.
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: Well, Seattle's defense. Both these teams defensive lines really are
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: surly and get after it. I think that's where it starts.
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: I think the Seahawks have a better overall rotation of people,
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: but those you know Jared versus probably you know the
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: people with the guy people have heard about around the country.
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: So I think both. I think they play with attitude
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: and tenacity upfront on defense and whoever kind of I
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: think someone's going to set the tone with that in
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: this game, and I think it's I think it may
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: be Seattle. I kind of feel like the Seahawks are
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: going to win this one and then maybe have their
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: hands more full of the second time. That's just kind
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: of my feel I feel like they're starting of kind
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: of surging now, the team with a little bit more
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: to prove and they may get them, but they haven't
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: seen the last of them either.
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: What's what's more surprising to you that Matthew Stafford closing
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: in on forty might be better now than he's ever been,
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: or that Sam Darnald, considering where he was two years ago,
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: is in the MVP conversation this season.
• 20:37
  Speaker 4: Donald.
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: To me, Donald's more surprising because because Stafford has played
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: at a high level, he's always been someone who everyone
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: thought had the talent. And I think we can see
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: in retrospect that he had the talent, but you know,
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: they had a bad situation a lot of the time
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: with the organization. And I think he's got a great
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: set up now with McVeigh and and he's at a
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: he's at peace and he and he's he's in a
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: different place. I think for Donald, Uh, you know, to
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: go from to go from a major market where you're
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: kind of seen. When you fail in a place like
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: New York as a quarterback or a head coach, you
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: kind of get branded in a different way, right, You
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: kind of get laughed at and mocked. Think of Adam Gase,
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: he was a good coach in the league. Have you
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: seen him a lot lately, right, you know what I mean,
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: Like when it happens though in that place, these are
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: these are good. These aren't a lot of cases. Good
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: people are good coaches, and you know Sam Donald was
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: not the complete buffoon he was made out to be
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: seeing ghosts and all that. Things take on a uh
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: you know, things take on a greater meaning there, and
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: so I think we're used to a lot of times
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: those guys just kind of it's hard to recover from.
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: You know, you don't necessarily get the other chance. You
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: get branded and you have a hard time changing that identity.
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: So I think that's just a great story. Maybe we're
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: seeing it a little more now. I mean, Daniel Jones
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: is having it too, So that's I think that's just
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: a great thing. It reflects really well on those guys,
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: and they're current teams, but it's still a surprise when
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: you see it. You're used to most of those guys
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: just kind of going.
• 22:05
  Speaker 4: Away, Sando.
• 22:07
  Speaker 5: One of the reasons for the surprise that is Sam
• 22:10
  Speaker 5: Darnold's I mean mvp ish first half of the season
• 22:13
  Speaker 5: is Jackson Smith and Jigmin. He's got like twenty percent
• 22:16
  Speaker 5: more receiving yards than Jamar Chase, who's in second place,
• 22:20
  Speaker 5: And yet I kind of feel like at some point
• 22:22
  Speaker 5: during the season you're going to have someone that's going
• 22:25
  Speaker 5: to have some game plan. Even if the game plan
• 22:27
  Speaker 5: is we're gonna put six guys on him, he's not
• 22:29
  Speaker 5: going to beat us. I don't know what how you
• 22:31
  Speaker 5: try to slow this guy down, but it seems impossible
• 22:34
  Speaker 5: at this point. Nobody's figured out how to do it
• 22:36
  Speaker 5: through nine games in the season, and so can it
• 22:38
  Speaker 5: be done? Do you expect that to be the priority
• 22:41
  Speaker 5: for the Rams defense, at least in.
• 22:43
  Speaker 4: The back end of that secondary.
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I would think that that's the case. But if
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: you notice with most wide receivers that are good, they
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: don't get solved like that, you know, And I think
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: it's harder to defend wide receivers now if you go back,
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: you know, you know, when I was covering this per
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: Bowl team in two thousand and five, if you just
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: look at the game, it's so different. There's there's two
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: running backs on the field and neither one of them
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: is going to really stretch you vertically as a receiver.
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: Your tight end's gonna hopefully be a decent blocker, you know,
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: and then you've got two wide receivers out there. So
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: if you want to stop one of those wide receivers,
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: I think it was easier then to do that, right
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: because there's only a couple of them, and your tight
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: end's kind of a half receiver, that sort of a thing,
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: and you might go to three wides. They did that,
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: but it might be third down, you know. So I
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: think now there's three wide receivers out there every play,
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: the tight end looks like a big wide receiver. Now
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: he's not as great as a blocker, but man, he
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: could be a threat. And even your half back grew
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: up in a seven on seven worlds, So saying you're
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: going to stop a wide receiver just it's harder to do.
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: There's more space out there, there's lighter you know. It's
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: just you can do it. And I think there's scheming
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: in the NFL now. Is is a even bigger thing
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: than it was before. I think the teams used to
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: run their system and you might try to stop it.
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: Now they're scheming these guys in a different way. I say,
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: good luck trying to stop these guys. The Eagles fans
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: might disagree with you about, Well, that's really interesting. Yeah,
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: that's a whole nother conversation. Actually, yeah, I wanted to
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: talk about it a little bit.
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: If I'm going to talk about one national story other
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: than Seahawks rams here, I wanted to get your thoughts because,
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: on one hand, I do think AJ Brown is going
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: about this all the wrong way, and he's coming off
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: as a bad teammate for sure, and he shouldn't be
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: doing it.
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: But I think he's got a point.
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: It's like, how can we have this much talent and
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: we're having this much difficulty getting the ball from quarterback
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: to wide receipt.
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: It's not just him.
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: DeVante Smith can't catch a pass either, So does I
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: mean at what point.
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: Smiths on pace for good year?
• 24:45
  Speaker 4: Though? Solid?
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: Yes, solid? But you know what point?
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: Is it justified that a player goes to the media
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: because he can't get through to.
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: The coaching staff on how he's being used. I say
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: this is the most diplomatic, well reasoned, smartest protests like this.
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: Usually guys are emotional at their locker overtime, you know
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: what I mean, and they just finally snap and then
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: and then it comes off as super selfish, and it is.
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: I don't I feel like the selfish part of this
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: is only in that you know it is drawing attention
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: now to it, and if they don't reach their goals
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: this season, which is unlikely, you're not gonna win the
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: super Bowl anyway. Most years, you know, it'll kind of
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: look like it's because they didn't get him the ball more.
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: But I think I think there's something to it, and
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: he is does have a good point in that, Hey,
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: just because we're winning the games doesn't mean that we're
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: playing our best ball. And he's trying to say that
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: it doesn't mean I have to get the ball every week.
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: I think he believes that, but it's not clicking. And
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: so I'll give you an example like Denver's won seven
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: games in a row and their quarterback is struggling, and
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: that's all gonna when they lose losing some games, it's
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: gonna come to the it's gonna be a convert. I
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: think what A. J. Barn is saying is like, we're
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: not the way we're playing right now. We may win
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: a lot of these games, but we're not. We're not
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: our best right now, and he's just kind of a
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: cry for help. But I agree he's kind of putting
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: it on that coordinator more than anything because he he
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: he hasn't just said it's Jay. He hasn't said it's
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: Jalen Hurts as much, wouldn't you agree? Yeah? I mean
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: I think he was kind of hinting at it last year.
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: Remember when they had the little tiff last year. So
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: I mean, I'm sure it started behind the scenes and
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: he couldn't get where.
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: He was going with it. I do believe he has
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: a point. There's no reason why that offense would I
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: think he wants to struggle that much. I think he
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: wants to win. Yeah, yeah, I hear you, all.
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: Right, Thursday night football, Patriots versus Jets. I mean, it's
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: not exactly a hum dinger here, Mike.
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: But yeah, oh that is interesting. What's interesting about this game? Hey,
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: anytime we can watch New England with with Drake May
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: I'm I'm all for it. I think this is somebody
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: who in his second year has outperformed the expectations everybody
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: thought in the league. Probably a good reason that this
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: was a team to be a ref of talent even
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: coming into this year, even after spending in free agency,
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: and they've won seven in a row. They're really great
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: on defense. That's stopping the run, so they make you
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: a little bit one dimensional. And this quarterback without a
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: bunch of targets you've heard of, I think he had.
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: I think they had four plays on offense last week
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: that were fifty yards or more and I was looking
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: that up, like that just doesn't happen. I couldn't find
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: it in the last twenty five years anyone had more
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: than that. So I think that's a really cool story.
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: And it's the interesting twist of it is, you know,
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: I think the Jets really wanted to hire Mike Vrabel,
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: so guess what, Mike Rabel's the edter coach. And it
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: feels to me as much as I, you know, have
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: defended Aaron Glenn a little bit early on, I feel
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: like he's starting to get some of these press conferences
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: are starting to feel like he's losing it.
• 27:55
  Speaker 4: A little bit.
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: So I want to watch just how that all goes
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: six a half, New England having turned it with a
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: roster that was perceived to be worse than the Jets
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: a year ago. Interesting in the division, I mean, I
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: think this is one of those games where if the
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: Patriots gotten win by thirty points, I think it's very
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: much more damaging to the new people and the Jets.
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: I knew you would find something that you couldn't wait
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: to watch about Thursday night football. You can count on Sando.
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: Well, really enjoy the football this weekend, and we're all
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: going to enjoy that Seahawks Rams game. That's gonna be special. Oh,
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: it's going to be great. I can't wait. Thanks, Thanks Mike.
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: All Right, Mike Sando, or NFL insider from the Athletic
• 28:34
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• 28:38
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  Speaker 1: horn for one last thing. What do you got? Bucky?
• 29:30
  Speaker 4: Just want to say, Dave col better win or better
• 29:34
  Speaker 4: win or what?
• 29:36
  Speaker 7: Bucky?
• 29:36
  Speaker 5: Well, I'm not gonna like protest or anything, be dumb.
• 29:41
  Speaker 5: I'll just be mad. I'll be mad, and I don't
• 29:43
  Speaker 5: I mean.
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: You're gonna take it out on better not be Ashley
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: and I better not be your family.
• 29:47
  Speaker 5: No, it won't be you guys, won't be my family.
• 29:49
  Speaker 5: You guys are in the same boat. Probably anybody that
• 29:52
  Speaker 5: has been propagating the Aaron Judge should be it.
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: Who is in town? Is anybody doing that in town? Oh?
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 29:59
  Speaker 4: I'm I'll travel.
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: I'll travel to New York real quick. I'll go to
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: New York. Jump.
• 30:06
  Speaker 7: I'm not printing out those Uber receipts though. That's on you.
• 30:10
  Speaker 4: I'm not taking an Uber there.
• 30:12
  Speaker 7: No, I'm saying. But also your expenses are on you.
• 30:15
  Speaker 4: Uh yeah, I expect that's fine.
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: I just know.
• 30:17
  Speaker 5: I mean, I'll just be irritated. I know that most
• 30:20
  Speaker 5: people recognize how great Judge is, and therefore they're like
• 30:24
  Speaker 5: it's a legitimate debate. You and I are different, are
• 30:27
  Speaker 5: somewhat further apart on it then, but we're on the
• 30:29
  Speaker 5: same page. We both think cow is deserving of it.
• 30:33
  Speaker 5: And yet there's a difference between how far I think
• 30:35
  Speaker 5: it's not. I don't even I just think he's so
• 30:37
  Speaker 5: much more valuable just just because of the positioning place.
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: I actually think that hurts your argument more than it
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: helps it, because it is close, and so for you
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: to say it's not even close, it does feel like
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: your bias is interfering.
• 30:54
  Speaker 5: Yeah, but it's not my bias that's interfering. It's the
• 30:56
  Speaker 5: fact that I know how difficult a catcher.
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: Well, everybody's recogniz but I don't think everybody does recognize it. Well,
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: maybe not to agree that you recognize it. But there's
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: also a considerable offensive gap as well. So there's a
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: considerable defensive gap, but there's also a considerable offensive gap
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: as well. So I just with all respect, I think
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: that you saying it's not close actually hurts your argument for.
• 31:22
  Speaker 4: Col Yeah, well that's fine, you can think that.
• 31:24
  Speaker 5: I'm just telling you it's the considerable defensive gap, and
• 31:28
  Speaker 5: then the mental gap, the mental side of it. There
• 31:31
  Speaker 5: isn't a nerd that can come up with a stat
• 31:33
  Speaker 5: for that ever, never will be heart grit, determination, playing
• 31:37
  Speaker 5: through pain. There's just a thing that he has that
• 31:41
  Speaker 5: you that just as automatically, just automatically puts me ahead
• 31:44
  Speaker 5: or puts him ahead of Aaron Judge. And again that's
• 31:47
  Speaker 5: not me sane in any way shape or for him
• 31:50
  Speaker 5: to diminish what Aaron Judge did.
• 31:51
  Speaker 4: It's spectacular.
• 31:53
  Speaker 5: I mean it is, without a doubt, the offensive player
• 31:55
  Speaker 5: of the year over a guy that hit sixty home
• 31:58
  Speaker 5: runs and hit the most home runs by a catch
• 32:00
  Speaker 5: or switch hitters, the most impressive offensive season Aaron Judge
• 32:04
  Speaker 5: without a doubt by a substantial margin. But the difference
• 32:09
  Speaker 5: between what they bring as in totality, it's not even
• 32:12
  Speaker 5: close what they bring in totality.
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: Well, I think it's very close, but we'll have to
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: just disagree on that. We all like col and we
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: want him to win MVP, and we think he should. Ashley,
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: what's your one last thing?
• 32:23
  Speaker 6: Well, we're not the only ones pumped up for this
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  Speaker 6: Seahawks Rams matchup. Yesterday after the show, we kind of
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  Speaker 6: chatted briefly about Pat McAfee was given some props to
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  Speaker 6: Mike McDonald, him and some of the guys on a
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  Speaker 6: show calling him Mike Madman McDonald. They're saying that he's
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  Speaker 6: an absolute mastermind. The offense never knows where the pressure.
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  Speaker 7: Is coming from. And it just kind of pumps me
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  Speaker 7: up even more to see what happens on Sunday.
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  Speaker 6: Oh yeah, this is like his first This is like
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  Speaker 6: the best obviously the best test he's faced, and I'm
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  Speaker 6: really excited for it.
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  Speaker 1: Well, and I think it's a year and a half
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  Speaker 1: of doing this being a head coach and for him
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  Speaker 1: to have like caught up to others like McVeigh and
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  Speaker 1: Shanahan and people are now recognizing him as a genius.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah that this is.
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  Speaker 1: This is like, this is this is him. I can't
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  Speaker 1: use a rookie coach as an excuse. I can't use
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  Speaker 1: a roster that I don't like as an excuse.
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  Speaker 2: So this is it. This is like I think this
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  Speaker 2: is the first, the true, first, true McDonald versus McVay matchup,
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  Speaker 2: and I'm all about it. I think are the quarterback
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  Speaker 2: matchups phenomenal, but the head coaching matchup, that meeting of
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  Speaker 2: the minds might be the most fascinating aspect of this game. Uh,
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  Speaker 2: and I'll just close with this the same thing I
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  Speaker 2: did yesterday. Anders and I are recording our first episode
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  Speaker 2: of the off season. We usually wait a little while longer,
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  Speaker 2: but I think there's just too much of an appetite
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  Speaker 2: for what's going on this offseason for the Seahawks. So
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  Speaker 2: Stove will be recorded today. We'll get it out to
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  Speaker 2: you as soon as possible. Uh, and maybe we'll tweak
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  Speaker 2: it a little bit this offseason so it's available in
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  Speaker 2: more ways.
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  Speaker 1: But for those wondering, we will be recording today and
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  Speaker 1: we'll have it pumped out to you tomorrow, So that'll
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  Speaker 1: do it for or not tomorrow. We'll have it pumped
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  Speaker 1: out to you tonight, so it'll be it'll be available
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  Speaker 1: here in about an hour and.
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  Speaker 2: A half as a matter of fact. All right, we'll
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  Speaker 2: talk to you tomorrow at six o'clock.
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