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The Church · Deprogrammed Music Podcast

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It's Deprogram, the podcast where we try to get you into a
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band. That's right.
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We've done all the work for you. All you have to do is press play
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and listen. And that's right, we have done
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the work, meaning we have listened to the playlist, we
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have listened to this band. We have each plucked out 20
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songs. We have are now each going to
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mash them together. We are each going to try to come
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out with a top 10 starter kit for you.
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That's the whole deal here. You could call me band curious
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because what I like to do is talk to my friends about the
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bands that they love. And today is no different.
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Today you could say, oh, that was bad, but it was perfectly
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bad, perfectly bad. Like, oh boy, I could have
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thought that one out. And one of these days I'll do
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that. Today we're talking about the
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church. So Gavin, you move into first
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seat here, talk to me about the church and why you wanted to
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come talk about the church on the show today.
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I'm I'm scoped to be back here with you and Adam, my buddy
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Adam. It feels it's been a long time
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and it's really Adams in Australia and the church is an
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Australian band. I love when we do these bands
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that have been with me my whole life, you know, since I was
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first getting into like music. I, I think I started listening
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to the church and freshman year of high school, which would have
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been like 1984 for me. And there's one of their songs
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that was just like was and still is one of my all time favorite
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songs of the 80s new wave. I I I consider the church a part
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of that movement, although, you know, they were like, they were
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confusing to me and my friends at that age because we thought
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they were a goth band, because a bunch, you know, a bunch of
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their album covers, right, have like a toppled statue of an
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Angel and seances like the most goth record cover ever and
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remote luxury and Persia have those weird goth ladies out in
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the forest or whatever. And like, and at the time I
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didn't really understand like their 60s influences, you know,
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I think they're one of those bands that falls in the middle
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where like really they're a rock band, but they're too good to be
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really understood by the mainstream.
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Like people that are into, I don't know, like rock, rock
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people, you know, they're too weird.
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And they were, and they were a little bit too rock for like to
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ever really be, I don't know, like a pant in the pantheon of
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weird bands like The Cure, The Smiths, you know, the Bunnymen,
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stuff like that. Although they, although I think
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they touch on things that all three of those fans had.
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And I think that they're like all the best bands.
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They're a band that grows with you.
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There's always more to discover about the church, things that
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didn't land, like records that didn't really land for me when I
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first heard them. Years later, I'll listen to them
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and go, what the hell was I thinking?
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You know, like you always are finding a new song by them.
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I saw Steve Kilby right before the pandemic.
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He did a really crazy tour of the US where you could write to
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him and propose anything like for him to play anywhere as long
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as whatever you met his, like, bottom line.
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So he did this tour in California of like people's
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living rooms and like laundromats.
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And like, I saw him in a teeny cafe with like 20 people.
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And I just, we just, me and my friends just sat right in front
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of him. He was like standing 5 feet away
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from us with an acoustic guitar playing, you know, all the
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church songs with the keyboard player, a woman that played with
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The Psychedelic Furs. And it was like so great.
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And he was like talking and had all this crazy banter with
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everybody. He was making fun of everybody
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and like, hugging everybody. And they're still playing, but
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they don't him. He's gotten like divorce from
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his main guitar player, Marty Wilson Piper.
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That's right, yeah. Which is like, you know, he,
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Marty Wilson is essential to me in the church.
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If you've ever listened to the two of them talk, like the real
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mystery is how they fucking survive together in a band for
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so long. They both have the biggest egos,
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like, they're just both narcissistic, like geniuses, you
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know, and, and you can't even imagine them agreeing or
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compromising on anything. I think that I've read his
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poetry. He's Kilby.
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Steve Kilby is an amazing poet, a true poet.
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You know, he's really smart, a true artist, totally
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uncompromising. He was a heroin addict, really
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funny, really sweet to his fans and they're just a lifetime ban
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for me. So I never like to presume that
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when I go to do like a little bit of research on the band that
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you know, because this is an Aussie man.
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This is This is why you're here, Adam.
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But I'm sure it at least has something to do with it, right?
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Like it. You probably had exposure to
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them. But if I'm wrong, I'm happy to
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be wrong. Tell me about it.
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It's really interesting you introduce it that way, Justin,
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because I was only reflecting on it yesterday that I actually
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feel they make me feel really patriotic.
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They're a really patriotic band for me.
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I'm really proud of the church and what they were, what they've
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been able to achieve. I mean, they're still together.
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They're actually still releasing albums.
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I've I've lost touch with them a little after the era that we're
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going to be covering, but they're still writing some
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fantastic music and everything Gavin said about Steve Kirby, I
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mean, he he's a he's a lyrical genius.
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But there were the 80s was a strong, there was a lot of
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strong bands in Australia, a lot of guitar focused bands that I
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absolutely love. And most of them never really
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broke out of Australia, whereas the Church actually did both the
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UK and the USI understand. I'd love to hear a bit more
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about how much influence I've had in the US.
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But they they actually did have some success.
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So and I and I think when we start to go through the albums
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and when they were released, if you look at that, you can
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actually see that they were influential.
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They were an influential band to that new wave acts, particularly
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those coming out in the UK at the time.
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And for example, I'll give an example that a guy called Johnny
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Mayer, you might have heard of him, was inspired to, to talk to
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Mike Joyce after seeing a church geek in the early 80s wow, to,
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to join a band called The Smiths.
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So wow, you could argue potentially that without that
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The Smiths might not not exist. So some of the songs you have
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to, I was listening to them was in the playlist going this song,
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these songs were released before this amazing, iconic album that
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I, you know what I mean? So a lot of this stuff predates
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a lot of stuff and I think they're the other thing I'd like
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to say about them is you touch this Gavin that really hard to
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categorize because they are a rock band, but they're also
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definitely have a gothic influence.
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So they're melancholy to them. That's quite unique in the way
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they're stitched together with rock.
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It's not. And they do, they do guitar
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solos and do kind of psychic bit of psychedelic sort of freak
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outs every now and then on their songs.
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But they do reign it in in a way that still talks to that core
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level of melancholy. Because I, I kind of do put them
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in a similar family as bands like, although they're
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different, you know, Echo and the Bunnymen and and the Swifts
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and the Cure and stuff like that.
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They do, they do fit into that thing, but they also have a bit
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of R.E.M. about them as well. So there is that American
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crossover as well. And and that then you did touch
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on the 60s generally pop influences.
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I've got to say I've, I've, I don't know if I've been more
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excited I had to cover a band in this one because I just think
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really diving into the albums and the way we did because I was
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always into into them and but probably more on the singles and
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some of the albums I hadn't fully explored properly.
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So I'm so I'm so keen to talk about them because they are.
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This particular period was just absolutely golden by them, I
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think, yeah. Yeah.
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So this is a band. This is another band that, you
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know, some of them I've kind of heard of offhand.
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This is just a band that was nowhere on my radar at all.
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I think the first time he even thought about it was when Jody
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initially put this band on, you know, the the big list.
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And I never even bothered to look it up.
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You know, I was like, well, you know, when somebody signs up,
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we'll, we'll cross that bridge when we get there.
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I had no idea what to expect going into this.
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I didn't know, you know, I had I guess, I guess you know, I could
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make a vague assumption based on it is a Gavin and Adam project.
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Like I could, I could I could kind of guess kind of where you
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know, on the timeline I'd be. I'll I'll say this.
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It definitely far exceeded anything that I created in my
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mind. I I rather enjoyed this band.
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Like this isn't this isn't like a, you know, a love fair band.
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This isn't like, oh man, you really, you really nailed a
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Justin band here. But like you definitely have put
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me on to a band that I mean this, this is what the show's
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about. Like put me on to bands that
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I've literally never heard of. And for a band to have been
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around this long and for it to have taken this long for one of
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their song, one of their songs, let alone, you know, a chunk of
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their discography to reach my eardrums is, is insane.
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That said, like we, we did have a bit of discussion going in
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because we had had to trim it up, Gavin, like when you're
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looking at which church records we cover, you know, how do you
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decide what we cover? And then once you get that far,
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you know what's what's your decision making like as you're
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putting your 20 together for this one?
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Yeah, yeah. Thanks.
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It was fun. I was doing this weird thing
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today where I was like, I was listening to my list and I don't
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know why, but I was thinking, I was imagining Billy Corgan
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singing the songs and they're like, there's a few like songs
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that is smashing pumpkin songs in here.
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Like, I don't know if that's a fun game you, you, you want to
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play. But yeah, it was weird.
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We, me and me and Adam kind of collaborated on this.
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We just took the first seven albums, which takes us from 1981
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to 1992, so recovering 11 years. We have a little bit like 80
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plus songs and then we took like 6 songs from singles and that
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run of EPS that they had in the 80s, they had a really strong
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run of EPS. This list was really difficult
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for me. There were I was going back and
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forth and back and forth and you know, I'll say like as always
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here with them and me, I'm more front loaded for sure.
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And I'm I'm anticipating that Adams more on the second-half.
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He might surprise me. I, I think that their first
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album is one of the most underrated new wave classics
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ever. I think that I could have taken
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the entire first album. I think it's front to back like
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Stone Cold 80s classic. I really love the second album.
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I'm, I'm not as like enamoured with Starfish, which was like
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their biggest record here in the states worldwide as everyone
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else is. The 90s albums we're covering 2
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nineties albums. They're, they're a little
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challenging for me as well on that.
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But on that run, the, the second, third, fourth album is
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with the Blurred Crusade, Seance and Heyday.
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It's funny, it's like there were like 10 songs that I love so
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much that I wanted to take, but then they go on too long and
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like Adam was talking about. Then they have like a 3 minute
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guitar solo psych out at the end.
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You know, perfect three minute songs that they wrote and where
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they tack on another 2 minutes of like insanity where you're
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like just chop off those last two minutes.
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Like, tell Marty Wilson to shut the fuck up and, like, just chop
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it off and you have a perfect song, you know?
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So. But that's who they are.
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You know what I mean? That's like, a big part of them.
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And like, but that was hard for, like, that was a negotiating
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factor for me. I was like, you know, can I deal
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with the entire 6 minutes of this song?
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Priest equals aura. The last record we're covering
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is when he started doing heroin with your man for the go
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betweens Adam and. Yeah, yeah.
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And to me, look, I love a good heroin album.
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I have many in my collection. This record sounds like heroin
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where the songs are kind of, to me, the songs feel amorphous,
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you know, and they sort of dissolve and before they can,
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like, swirl and condense into solid form.
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That's attractive. There's something cool about
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that. But for me, like each song sort
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of missed like the there there. But I will say that we have an
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insanely good top 10 here that we're going to come up with
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like, like we will have an incredible like list of 10 songs
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I'm I'm certain of so. Gavin or I'm sorry, Adam, Adam
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Gavin rhyme Gavin mentioned that you know, you helped you 2 kind
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of collaborated to to put this list together.
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So like if you had any points you wanted to add about like
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this time frame and then talk about what your your experience
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was like for for putting 20 together for this.
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Yeah. So for me, my favorite era of
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the church is from 1981 to 1992. It is.
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This whole era. So I, I mean, I love, I love the
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fact that every album that would cover all seven of these albums
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has a completely different personality.
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Yeah, it's still the church. And like it really is like the
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you know, the heyday is very different to Offskins and
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Hearts, but but it but isn't as well.
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And I will I will come into bat for pre sequels aura because I
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feel like that was a a great record.
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A lot of fans would consider that to be one of their best of
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records now going back. So it is it is well, well
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acclaimed, although it was, it did fall at the time because
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they peaked internationally and in Australia too with Starfish,
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which I actually think is one of the one of the greatest albums
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of all time from, from Australia.
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So I would put it up there. It would be in the top 10 best
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Australian albums in my opinion. But like everything you said,
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Gavin, about Oskins and Hearts Blood Crusade, I mean, I'm
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really looking forward to this. I do feel like we we might be
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slightly different, but I have got representation across all of
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this era because we we've clipped this off at the right
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spot. Because after this they started
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meandering. The songs got longer and longer
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and more boring. I found them to get bit boring
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after this with flashes of brilliant still of course
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because still Steve Kilby can't not write amazing songs still.
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But it's more like every now and then a song hits rather than the
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albums being great back-to-back. Whereas I think these seven
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albums are solid back-to-back. Yeah, yeah.
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And you know what's weird? That's by it's by choice.
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He that dude can write a perfect.
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Yeah. Pop song.
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If he wants to, he does not want to do that.
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You know what I mean? Like how?
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Many how many bands have we covered, mate?
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Where they're they're self sabotage.
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Yeah, yeah, I can really every single one we could go to of of
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the choice we've done together. We're going, yeah, they've kind
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of done, you know, I mean, think Star.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. All sorts of all sorts of all
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sorts of bands that just sort of caught itself, sabotage
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themselves, it seems. Yeah, yeah.
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So my experience with this band, it it it's I love the way you
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framed the first record, Gavin, because when when I first
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started listening to that, I was immediately drawn to it.
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I was like, Oh my God, I had so much on the first pass from that
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record. And I was like, Oh my God, this
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is so great. And then, you know, as it went
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on, I'm like, OK, yeah, cool. Like I really enjoyed most of
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the records. Funnily enough, you know, you
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know, my mouse stopped working somewhere in the middle there.
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I'm sorry. Just trying to get starfish.
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Yeah, yeah, that one, that one found me, you know, that that
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was the one I was most like if, if I was to pick one album, that
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was the one that I I was as an album drawn the most to.
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But ultimately, like in my song choices, I I tried to keep.
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I'm pretty even actually an interesting, interesting things
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to kind of point out, you know, to, to Adam's point about this
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being, you know, his favorite. And I always get, I always get
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people who answer full albums, like when I, when I ask threads,
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hey, what's essential? And I always say songs because I
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want songs 'cause I like to to see where my list is at before
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coming into the episode and. I got a couple different
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answers. I got the blurred Crusade was
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the first one I got for album. The next one I got was Starfish
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and the the other one I got was Priest equals Aura.
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So those were the three that that people said these full
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albums. The rest was like songs.
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I also got a lot of a lot of songs from Heyday, but nobody
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said Heyday and, you know, as a record.
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So yeah, I always find these things interesting because I
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feel like it kind of helps me conceptualize what the world
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thinks of this band. And I it's one of the few bands
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where I don't think anybody said none.
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I don't think somebody came in trying to be the clever guy
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going none. You know, I got, I got, you
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know, some people answering songs.
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I got some people answering albums.
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So that's, yeah, that's something.
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But that said, we are at like 80 songs.
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It's three of us, Gavin. So I mean, that kind of takes
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some of the weight off. But based on everything that's
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been said so far, you know, it sounds like, you know, we're all
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kind of a little all over the place.
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What do you think we're going to do?
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How many do you think we'll get through unanimously?
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We'll do 7 for sure. Oh, I like that.
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I like that. Gavin's taking a huge swing.
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Adam, what do you think? Wow, wow, I'm surprised you went
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there. But well, I'm not sure because I
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have got a bit more at the back and then maybe Gavin has.
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So I'm I'm going to but but I think there are some songs that
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really just come out, so I'm going to go 5.
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OK, Oh boy. All right, so that that means
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123457891011. You guys have really put me on
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it because I feel like I actually have to play when when
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you guys kind of have taken the question is do I split?
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Do I go above or do I go below? What is my gut tell me because I
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feel like there's three that feel like have to be and then
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it's I've got a couple here that probably could be.
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Now what happens if I win? Is there a song that I can go to
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bat for? I'll split the difference.
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I'll go with six. Let's see.
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I feel like that's the easy way out.
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I'll take I'll split the difference and I'll figure it
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out when we get there. All right, we're going to take a
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quick pause and when we come back we're going to play the
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game as the programmed. And with that, the name of the
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game is deprogrammed. The three of us have come
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through a selection of the church's discography and plucked
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out 20 songs that are now going to mash together in an attempt
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to create a top 10 certicate for you in case you have never given
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the church the time of day. And we're hoping to change that
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for you today. I have two that I can lead.
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Lead with it. Well, technically 3, but I have
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two that I can lead off with here.
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Part of it is because I got them as answers.
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Part of them is I got them as answers a lot, and part of them
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is I just liked both of these songs.
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I'm going to go with the one I have marked as #2 I feel like
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this will be a good barometer of of kind of where we're at.
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I'm going to go with Reptile. No.
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Yes. OK, I'll take that too.
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I'll take that too. That feels like one of those
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things that that it's an either or situation, so.
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It's an absolute stone cold classics on my opinion.
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Yeah, I got that one a lot, a lot.
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And I was like, oh man, I dig this.
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So it. Made my first pass all.
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Right. So we'll see how it where it
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where it remains in the next round, we'll come back to it,
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but I'll take that too. All right, Gavin.
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I took almost with you off the blurred crusade.
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Yeah, I got it. Absolutely.
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And this is a song that still gets radio play here.
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I could be in the hardware store and still in here almost with
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you. So there's a few, there's
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probably 3, there's probably 3 songs, maybe 4 that you can hear
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on the radio still in Australia, and that's definitely one of
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them. Amazing song.
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Spanish guitar solo I. Love it so much, it's such a
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beautiful song. You know what's funny is, is
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when when I jumped in earlier and had to dump out and I jumped
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back in and I couldn't hear you because the song was up too
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loud. That was the song I was
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listening to. Kevin, That's cool.
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So Almost With You gets in boom boom, boom, just like that.
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That one was semi on my writer. We did get an answer of that.
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So, Adam. OK, so maybe we'll keep going
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with some of the some of the ones that I think are the big,
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the big songs that are most likely to to land.
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And we'll go, I'll go to the start of Skins and Hearts and
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yeah, a song that I still, I never get sick of this song,
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even though I know the band gets sick of playing it.
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And that's the unguarded moment. Yeah, I got it.
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Yeah, that's the song I was talking about, I mean.
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Yeah. That that song is just a part of
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me. You know it.
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It's fucking incredible. Eat that.
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He wrote that and wrote it so young and like what a destroyer,
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that song. Just like Lee's waste.
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Oh, and, and his poetry, Gavin, that you referred to earlier, I
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mean, you know, it's just epically comes through in that
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song. That whole album is good, but
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that song just stands above it really.
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Yes. Yeah, we'll take that unanimous
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and I'll, I'll also point out that I had that marked as #3
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that was like the third one I was going to come out with
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because it was one of the ones we got answered the most.
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So unsurprisingly, apparently, all right, we'll take that three
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and we'll move on. That's a pretty good for first
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round. All right, my other one that I
27:07
marked as number one has not been said.
27:09
So I'll, I'll go there. Let's again feel out territory.
27:12
How about under the Milky Way? Yes.
27:17
Yeah, of course. All right.
27:21
Oh what a beautiful crazy song. That is so good.
27:26
I. So you hadn't heard of that one
27:30
before? I don't think so that.
27:34
That was a big hit in in 19, nine.
27:37
Well, in eight. What was it, 8888?
27:40
88 and also I was in the Donnie Darko film as well.
27:44
This is where I thought Justin might have heard it.
27:46
OK, so that I mean I've seen darn Donnie Darko and I loved it
27:50
when I was like 20, but I haven't gone.
27:52
Back. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
27:55
So it's been 20 years since I've seen it.
27:58
Adam, I heard this song like I can't remember now what it is.
28:01
It's on this weird like collection of odds and ends that
28:06
the church put out. And there's a early song that
28:10
has the chorus. Anyway, he stitched that.
28:16
You could see he, he like, stitched that song together from
28:19
2 songs. And both the early songs that
28:22
have the different parts are both really great too.
28:25
I'm, I'm not being very helpful, but yeah.
28:29
I always, I always think of that song as the Australian Killing
28:33
Moon. For some reason.
28:35
It's not a similar vibe to it, to that, to that, to that Echo
28:39
song. Recall.
28:41
Yeah, I know that was. Our attempt.
28:44
Was our Australian. That was obviously the attempt
28:47
at that song. Yeah, well.
28:50
And before we move on and you know, this isn't, this isn't
28:54
like, oh, you know, like Billy Corgan's the only person that
28:57
you know, ever do this as well. But you, you brought up Corgan
29:01
before. Like you, you played the game.
29:03
You can imagine, you know, him singing some of these songs.
29:06
And for the record, I'd be shocked if the church wasn't
29:11
somewhere in his wheelhouse, especially based on some of the
29:16
things you're saying. Like Billy Corgan has definitely
29:20
done that with the stitching songs together.
29:23
Like if you go and listen to the like the expanded door set and
29:26
listen to some of those songs, you can hear that like the
29:30
finished versions in Machina and Machina too.
29:33
Like he was like, OK, well, that doesn't work there.
29:35
Let me put it there. And again, you know, not like
29:40
he's the only other person to do it, but since you made the
29:42
comparison before, I might as well throw that there.
29:46
Yeah. All right.
29:47
Boom. Just like that.
29:48
We're at 3. Where you want to go, Gavin?
29:51
So I like Adam. I I, I like what you were saying
29:54
about R.E.M., the comparison, you know, with that they do.
29:57
They do have the big, the jangly guitar, you know, and and the
30:01
Paisley shirts and cut. They're drawing from some of the
30:04
same like pools of influence. And I felt like, you know, when
30:10
Heyday came out in 85 and with them, that great cover with them
30:15
all in different Paisley shirts on the cover, you know?
30:18
Yeah, it's so cool. Yeah.
30:20
That was a moment where I feel like he could have really, that
30:27
album could have been huge. R.E.M.
30:29
Were were, you know, really peeking in at least in the
30:35
underground on college radio and that sound and that look and
30:38
those influences. And I feel like not for me, but
30:45
for his commercial track, he. They kind of dropped the ball on
30:50
Hay Day. They didn't really seize that
30:51
moment. Like it's almost there.
30:53
But he says about Hay Day. Like we I said, I set out to
30:57
write no catchy songs on Hay Day.
31:01
I didn't want to do that. And so, yeah, but it's just such
31:05
a weird. There's an alternate timeline
31:08
where Heyday comes out in 1985 and looks a lot different and
31:13
the church is touring fucking stadiums, you know, but took
31:20
already yesterday off Heyday, which is one of my all time
31:25
favorite songs by the church and is such a delicate, skillful,
31:30
it's a it's a tiny masterpiece. I feel like.
31:33
I think it's so great. I got it.
31:36
Already yesterday. I don't have it but I love it
31:40
though. Yeah.
31:43
We'll take that too. That's all right.
31:45
Nice. Yeah, we'll take it too, Adam.
31:51
That was a great summary of Heyday Gavin.
31:56
Because it is. It should technically be a hit,
31:59
but the songs on on that album, I don't think I'd ever hear any
32:03
of those on the radio. Actually.
32:05
They're not the ones that that that cut through the ones that
32:08
that that have here where we talked about Uncut a moment,
32:12
Almost with you and under the Milky Way.
32:14
There's nothing off of High Day, but some epic guitar songs on
32:20
there. And I'm going to go with one
32:24
from there that reminds me quite a bit of another Australian band
32:29
called Hunters and Collectors, because they they bring in the
32:32
trumpets and the horns and stuff, which is not something
32:34
that church really do a lot of. But they're doing this song and
32:38
it's just great from end to end. It's tantalized.
32:41
Yeah, I got it. That was like a last minute cut
32:47
for me all. Right.
32:49
We'll take a two there. Great song and I love, well, I
32:53
love Throw your arms around me, the Hunters and.
32:56
Collectors, well, you need to do Hunters at some point because I
33:00
yeah, yeah. All right, we'll take the two
33:04
and move it on. Let me mark that down on here
33:07
too. All right, I guess maybe I'll be
33:14
the first one to dip into seance here.
33:16
How about none of these feel like home runs to me but but
33:22
I'll try. How about electric lash?
33:26
Yes. Absolutely.
33:29
Oh. Yeah.
33:31
I love that. Song.
33:33
Oh my God, it's so fun. I am so happy that the one I
33:40
said didn't feel like a home run, like just cleared the wall.
33:47
Yeah, the start of that song with the drums and then when he
33:50
just kicks in with the vocals is so great.
33:56
There is like a a feeling with with some of these songs, like I
34:00
don't even know how to explain it.
34:01
Like a like some of these songs, the best way I can say when I
34:06
heard them was just yes, you know, there was, yeah, there was
34:11
a good handful that, you know, like I, I tortured myself over,
34:15
but there was another good handful.
34:17
And so far the four of them, four of them are in that I
34:22
definitely said yes to. This was one of them, even
34:25
though I didn't, I didn't feel like obviously this was like
34:29
obvious. The other ones felt a little
34:31
more obvious, but but this was definitely what the first time I
34:34
heard it, I said yes. And then the second time I was
34:36
like, well, I can't cut it. So still, yes, and obviously you
34:41
guys kind of felt the same way. So you guys know better than I
34:43
do, but here we are. Electric Lash gets in 123.
34:50
Let me mark that and mark it here.
34:54
Gavin, where you want to go? Well, I did have to take one
34:58
song with a beautiful first half and then a psych out second-half
35:02
just because the first half is so great I couldn't not take it.
35:06
Do you guys have an interlude off of Blurred Crusade?
35:14
No, I don't. No, I don't.
35:16
But it's great. It's such a good song.
35:18
Nope. Yeah.
35:19
First bend, first one bend. And you know what?
35:22
What's funny is I probably cut it for the same reason you kept
35:25
it like not purposefully, but you know, sometimes you look for
35:30
reasons. But I would bet that that would
35:32
have been my reason had in that moment.
35:36
All right, Adam. Just before I pick my song, I
35:41
just want to quickly tell because I didn't do this at the
35:43
start and you just made me remind me me, Justin, how I
35:46
picked my honey. Because what I normally do is I
35:50
make I listen to the main playlist.
35:52
I make my first part, then I make that cut that to a second
35:56
cut playlist and then I finalize it from there.
35:58
I couldn't do it with this one because I, I had 2929 songs and
36:02
I could not work it out. So then what I did is I, I set
36:05
up a playlist where I put in the ones that were absolutely going
36:08
to be in there. So like right, Justin said these
36:11
are just no brainers for me. There was 13 of those and then I
36:14
had basically a elimination. I called it Elimination Battle
36:18
and checked the. I checked the rest of the songs
36:24
I. Did the exact same thing, yeah.
36:27
Did you really? That's so funny because I've
36:28
never done this this particular way before and I so I think I
36:33
had 7 spots left and in 16 in 16 songs.
36:40
So yeah, something like that. So with quite a few missing out
36:47
but and doing it that way, but it was hard work.
36:50
I forgot to say that at the start, but I think I'm not going
36:54
to summary a slightly unusual well, not unusual, but to the EP
36:59
era, the era because that the singles and EPS, because that
37:01
was a great rich vane of songs like all the best bands often in
37:07
that period just used to throw their some of the best stuff on
37:10
EPS. And I already mentioned, if you
37:15
ever wanted to think to the church have a real, like any
37:18
sort of downed relationship to Johnny Mayer and The Smiths, I
37:22
think you'd have to look no further than a song called No
37:25
Explanation. Oh, I didn't take it a great.
37:31
Song. It sounds like a Johnny Mayer
37:33
song, yeah. That was in my final bloodbath
37:36
battle. OK.
37:39
I unfortunately cannot save you there, Adam.
37:42
OK. I didn't really expect that.
37:45
It was a bit of a leap, that one, but yeah. 84 so good.
37:50
Yeah. All right.
38:00
I haven't done the thing yet. I could do the thing.
38:03
I think it's, I think it's worth noting when I don't lead with a
38:06
thing, the thing isn't the song that does the thing isn't
38:12
important enough because the thing gets done elsewhere.
38:14
I know that's a lot of a lot of words.
38:16
I think it made sense, but I have to be true to myself and
38:22
the way I play the game and track one album one for a
38:26
moment. We're strangers.
38:28
Yes, it was in. My in my elimination battle and
38:33
it lost unfortunately. No, I'm not.
38:37
Yeah. I love that song.
38:39
I love the words of that song, Justin.
38:41
They're so good. That's a all time classic for
38:45
me. I just, I, I love.
38:48
I mean, again, like I'm a broken record here, but I haven't said
38:54
this yet on this particular episode.
38:56
Tell me what you are like as early as possible.
39:00
And I knew what to expect. I mean, of course there's growth
39:04
and there's, you know, morphing and changing the sound and
39:07
whatnot. But hit me, hit me in the face
39:10
with what you are. So I know where to start.
39:14
And if you do it really well, I bring it to the game.
39:16
They did. I thought they did it really
39:18
well. I, I, I feel like this is like,
39:20
yeah, man, I'm way on board with this band.
39:23
So that's why I brought. That's a great song.
39:26
All right. Well, we'll take that too,
39:28
Gavin. I'm going to go to Starfish.
39:31
There's a song on Starfish that feels like just a mystery to me.
39:35
It's kind of, it's so subtle and like that.
39:37
I keep going back to it trying to figure it out and it's just
39:40
really captivating. You guys have a new season.
39:44
I do. Yeah.
39:48
I don't that, but I just couldn't take the whole album
39:53
because I could have easily taken pretty much every song off
39:56
of Starfish. I got to be honest.
39:59
Each other. Yeah, Yeah.
40:00
I got to be honest, I didn't expect that.
40:03
I don't, you know, I didn't expect that that's where you're
40:06
going. I thought that was going to be
40:07
one that I was just going to, you know, throw out there and
40:09
they would get bend towards the end.
40:11
I really enjoyed that one. Yeah, me too.
40:14
All right, we'll take the 2. And I think we're getting pretty
40:18
close to getting out of NTP too. There's still plenty of
40:21
gameplay. So, Adam.
40:25
So I feel like there's two church albums that they're not
40:30
strictly concept albums, but they've they feel to me like
40:33
they are and one is starfish and the other one is priest Eagles
40:36
aura and I'll maybe talk, I'm going to talk about starfish
40:41
first and then the song comes from that.
40:44
So it feels like a lot of the songs are about being being, you
40:50
know, it gives a feeling of almost being in the desert like
40:54
Reptile and you kind of lost and and it's so they're out maybe in
40:59
the Outback for in the middle of Australia or maybe out and
41:04
trying to think of what are the desert regions for in America,
41:07
Arizona or something like that. Perhaps I don't know.
41:10
And you just lost. And the story that I want to
41:12
pick is lost, which is one of my favorite songs.
41:16
Me too. Oh.
41:18
I haven't loved that. I mean, I can't, I can't bring
41:21
it to the the three to make it unanimous, but I was worried
41:24
that Adam was going to say all that and it was just going to
41:26
get better. Well, I definitely had that was
41:29
one of the ones that I thought would hurt me if it got binged.
41:32
But I need to call out one of my favourite lyrics ever.
41:36
It's it's an exquisite corpse and its lips are red.
41:39
It's just just the imagery that he paints in that song.
41:43
And and it does. And, you know, there's plenty of
41:45
other songs. I don't say the names of them
41:46
because some of them might come up later that really do give
41:49
that feeling of, you know, being, being, being lost in one
41:53
way or another. Yeah.
41:55
On that album. He he played that at the cafe
41:59
when I saw him. Just, it is so crazy to just see
42:01
him standing there and just playing that song.
42:03
So beautiful. So where I'm going to go next,
42:09
I'm I'm bringing Billy Corgan back up here because I meant to
42:11
say this, like you mentioned with Heyday where he said he
42:17
didn't want to write hits and Billy Corgan yet again, Billy
42:23
Corgan did that in 90, probably 99, maybe like between a door
42:29
and Machina, like in when they're writing for Machina and
42:33
he writes, let me, let me give the world to you.
42:36
And it's a wonderful song. If you've never heard it, it's I
42:40
don't think it actually ends up on anything.
42:43
If anything, maybe Machina 2, but it's a great tune.
42:47
But the record labels like, yes, we're all on board.
42:50
So he said no, we're not putting that on the album.
42:54
Yeah. So it's a, you know, I don't
42:57
know if he just ripped ripped the whole shit from him, but the
43:02
title of this track is very much something Billy would do and has
43:06
done with his spellings. I butchered it in the in the
43:11
intro mirror MYRRH. I don't have it.
43:16
That's a really cool song though.
43:19
I do. I have it.
43:20
And yeah, it's a great song. That is so like Corgan started
43:26
doing that I think post breakup. Well, I think the first time he
43:34
did it was on his first solo record and like where he started
43:37
spelling things like weird and then on Zeitgeist, everything
43:40
had ZS and it's like, OK man. Dude, I'm just they, they kind
43:45
of, I'm just thinking right now the the photo sessions from Gish
43:49
kind of look like the church on the heyday.
43:52
Cover 100%, yeah. Yeah, I'm wondering like, yeah,
43:57
he never references them, but I'd be curious if I could ever
44:01
get his ear long enough to go. Hey man, the church question
44:05
mark. Well, what, you know, what's
44:07
funny is my notes on that song was that that another one that
44:11
reminds me Echo and the Bunnymen.
44:13
And I know Billy Corgan was a big fan of Echo and the
44:16
Bunnymen, wasn't he? So, yeah.
44:18
So it could be that it's sort of, you know, one step removed.
44:22
Possibly. But, yeah.
44:23
But but the church were well known.
44:26
They're well known to musicians, you know, they're not a unknown
44:30
band. So he would have come across
44:31
them for sure. I I can't imagine he didn't.
44:34
So all right, Mirror gets the two Gavin where you want to go.
44:39
Exotic language, but also a spice like, no, it's like, it's
44:50
an exotic spice right from like the middle.
44:53
East, That wouldn't shock me. Yeah.
44:57
Oh yeah, that's right. Frankincense, a mirror it's
44:59
from. Yeah, of course.
45:01
Yeah. Right.
45:03
Oh, it just like that's the way it's actually, yeah.
45:07
Right. It has a Christmas connection
45:09
somehow. Yeah, OK, I'm going to the first
45:13
record. I kept trying to cut this song
45:16
because it's kind of ridiculous, but I just couldn't cut it.
45:20
I took Chrome injury off the first record.
45:25
No. No.
45:26
No real reason, but no. I think it's like an homage to
45:31
Ballard's Crash. I don't know that for sure, but
45:34
I think that everybody was all the weird kids were reading
45:39
Crash in the early 80s and inspired a lot of songs.
45:42
So that's my guess, but great song.
45:46
All right, Adam. OK, I'm going to go to the to
45:53
the end now. The other concept album, which
45:57
so I've talked about starfish being that lost in the desert
46:01
post Equals Aura is kind of like a mystical medieval,
46:07
otherworldly experience from beginning to end, where there's
46:12
armies fighting and battling witches and and all sorts of
46:16
stuff going on. And I I think I think Gavins
46:20
right though, that some of those songs probably go on a little
46:22
long, but it's also if you're in the mood beginning to end album
46:27
experience, it's just a real chill out as well in some ways,
46:32
you know. So I want to pick a song from
46:36
that that right at the end of this discography really where
46:41
they did something completely different and knew that they
46:43
hadn't done before. And I feel like they took a a
46:46
page out of Nick Cave's playbook with there's a song called The
46:52
Disillusionist. Oh.
46:55
No. No.
46:56
Oh damn it, that's. Such a good song.
47:00
Yeah, I liked your, I liked your intro on that.
47:05
That record is a vibe. Like you just need to put that
47:07
record on, you know, and just listen to the whole thing.
47:10
It's not, it's not really like a record of songs, you know?
47:13
It's like a, it's like a record. Yeah, and and on that song, it's
47:18
like there's because Nick Cave does this a bit the sort of
47:21
undead choir, right? Yeah, yeah.
47:24
Sort of thinking this, that, that, and they've got to say the
47:27
line. They say that he's famous from
47:29
the waist down, but the top half of his body is a corpse over and
47:32
over. It's just it's just fantastic.
47:35
Anyway, that's awesome. That sounds like a.
47:42
That's great. All right, back around to me.
47:47
I've got a couple here that have shots, but we'll see.
47:53
I'll go back to Blurred Crusade. How about how about to be in
47:57
your eyes? No.
48:01
Absolutely one of my favorite songs.
48:04
Yeah, I'll. Take that too and I think that.
48:08
I. Think we're officially having a
48:10
conversation after this, boys. I think we've hopped up and over
48:14
NTP by this point. OK.
48:18
We've got a few more I'd say. I made my final battle list.
48:24
I'm see I have asterisks next to all the songs that made that
48:28
final. You know, battle Royale that was
48:31
in there. All right.
48:33
Kevin. I'm going to take Disenchanted
48:36
off Heyday, no. No.
48:43
A disenchanted friend. All right, Boom and Adam.
48:52
So I haven't talked about this album yet, although some I think
48:55
it's it has been raised but and it was seen as a disappoint
48:59
disappointment at the time. I understand reading back that
49:03
it wasn't it. So it comes after the belief
49:06
Blue Crusades, so Seance, but I love Seance.
49:09
I think it's a it's a misunderstood album and it just
49:15
really they really touched into their got the kind of gothic and
49:20
melancholy aspects of the church.
49:23
And you know, I was saying before all the albums have
49:25
different personalities. Definitely sounds is probably
49:29
the the same guy at the back of the room.
49:32
A little bit. But I love the fact they brought
49:36
in keyboards for the first time through this album and the song
49:40
I just can't get out of my head a lot of time.
49:41
It's it's no reason. No.
49:45
That was a final cut. I don't know.
49:49
There you go. That big spiel for a summer that
49:50
gets chopped away. It's pretty calm.
49:54
Yeah, it's only. Been on the R.E.M.
50:00
Championship edition when John when it was, you know, we're
50:03
cutting these fucking fantastic songs and John's like we're
50:07
talking about cut at this point. We're talking about cutting like
50:10
a 9.75 song. It did not.
50:13
Yeah, yeah, yeah. And that's how I felt making
50:17
this list. It was really, really difficult.
50:22
I only have one more marked as a possible, so I'll try that one
50:28
here. And I think maybe we got one
50:30
more round after this current round and then we'll dump out.
50:33
We'll see from priest equals aura.
50:36
How about Aura? No.
50:41
No, but I'd love that. There's a big song.
50:43
I love it. Man, that's, I think that's the
50:47
first time I've been bent. I think I've I've yeah, that's
50:52
pretty late in the game for me. Yeah.
50:55
All right, Gavin. I took Don't open the Door to
51:00
strangers off the first record. No, no, I've been a lot this
51:12
episode. All right, Adam.
51:18
So the church were on top of the world after Starfish in
51:23
Australia. They they won the Arias, which
51:26
is our Music Awards, the best album.
51:30
And so the follow up album is always challenging and I think
51:34
it was a dip. I don't love Gold Afternoon Fix
51:39
really so but although as you know I love 3 sequels or the
51:44
next one but I will pick the song off of Gold Afternoon Fix
51:48
what I do really like and that's my trop metropolis.
51:52
Yes. OK, I like that it gets a 2 at
51:55
least that was I don't know where I know it made my first
52:00
pass. I if I had to guess it was like
52:03
in that 25 down to 20 type range where I where I dropped it.
52:08
That was a lead single and that that one still gets airplay here
52:11
a little bit, but it was seen as a dip from, you know, it's no,
52:15
it's not under the Milky Way, so it's a step down.
52:20
It's a fantastic song, full of imagery and like, yeah,
52:24
playfulness and, like, strangeness.
52:27
Like you're in a, you've walked into a tent and like, all kinds
52:31
of weird stuff's going on, you know, It's really.
52:34
I love that song. It's a great single.
52:39
I mean, I'll stay on that album. I've I've got a few from there.
52:46
How about You're still so beautiful.
52:51
No. No.
52:53
See, that's how I know we're in the last round.
52:58
Like, no, no extra notes, just no.
53:00
OK, into the bin it goes, Gavin. I'm going to go to the remote
53:09
luxury EP from 84 I took into my hands.
53:17
No. I'm getting killed.
53:27
Hold on, I got to bring up the search function because there it
53:33
is. I see it all right, Adam.
53:38
I've still got 7 left I think. Anyway I will go to but I'm
53:46
another guy at priest equals aura because I want to land
53:48
something there and paradox. Oh, no, no, very, very late cut.
53:58
Very, very late cut for me. All right.
54:03
Yeah, I think this is what was like 2 straight rounds of the
54:07
bin. So I feel like this is a good
54:08
spot to to dump out, let me shuffle the deck here and get up
54:14
to the top. I've got too fast for you.
54:20
Yes. Hey.
54:22
No, it was in my. It was in the elimination
54:26
battle, though. All right.
54:27
Yeah, let's see. Moving on to Seance, how about
54:31
one day? No.
54:35
No. OK, I just did well early this.
54:40
All my late ones are going to be bins staying on Sans.
54:44
How about dropping names? No.
54:49
OK, moving to Starfish, how about destination?
54:55
No. No, bloody great.
54:58
So I'm there all. Right.
55:05
Moving on to gold afternoon fix. How about transient no.
55:11
No. OK, real good here the priest
55:18
equals aura luster. No.
55:24
Why? All right.
55:25
And then last but not least of gold.
55:28
Afternoon fix Monday morning. All right.
55:35
Seems like I may have I may have overthought a couple of these.
55:41
I think that, to be honest, that was probably about 21 I I wanted
55:45
to get Monday morning in because I think it's an absolute
55:48
cracker. Yeah, I think I have that as the
55:52
B side too. I have the tropolis, the little
55:54
7 inch single. I think the.
55:56
B side of that it's really good. All right, so with that, that
56:03
means opportunities for unanimous are out the window,
56:06
which means we land on 4, which means nobody's going to win.
56:12
But wow, you know the conversation.
56:14
Get a little harder here, Gavin. Yeah.
56:17
All right, Adam, here we go. I took the closer off Seance.
56:23
It doesn't change. Not I took Kings off Priest
56:30
equals Aura. That song's incredible.
56:34
No. It took Secret Corners off The
56:38
Blurred Crusade, which is such a sweet, great song.
56:42
It is a good song, but I don't have it.
56:45
Yeah, I took Tristess off Heyday.
56:51
Not. You know it's funny about.
56:55
You know it's funny about. That which I would be surprised
56:59
if Adam doesn't have. This I took when you were mine.
57:02
Off the board crusade. You're going to be surprised.
57:10
Wow, we just double bended me and me and.
57:13
Justin still got heaps left. Yeah, so I think we know.
57:19
I think we know what's up with yours.
57:22
I Before we move on, I wanted to point out that The Smashing
57:25
Pumpkins on Gish have a song called Tristessa.
57:29
Wow, there you go. That doesn't just happen by
57:32
accident. Yeah, so.
57:34
So Adam, this means or Justin, I guess with Adam having so many
57:39
songs left, we're going to hit so many of these 80s songs.
57:44
We're going to cover like a lot of real estate.
57:48
Yes, we are. Yes, we are all right and I'm.
57:52
Very sad because pretty equals or doesn't have any one of the
57:55
rights. But anyway.
57:59
So I've got progress from the start from the top
58:02
chronologically. So off of skins and heart.
58:04
Off of skins and hearts, is this where you live?
58:08
No, yeah, obviously I don't have it.
58:10
That's a great song. So I reckon we covered really
58:17
every song here. So I've got YouTube.
58:22
So good. And a bit of a nod to David
58:27
Bowie, I feel in this song. A field of Mars.
58:30
Oh man, that was like my fine. That was 21.
58:34
That was really. I love that song.
58:37
Yeah, then I jump all the way down.
58:40
So I actually ended up with five songs off The Office.
58:44
I just could not cut it back. So I have Hotel Worm the.
58:50
Last song. Yeah, this.
58:52
Is epic and N, SE and West. Yeah.
58:57
Which is also kind of plays into that whole lofts theme as well.
59:02
And then off of pre sequels or I've got the lead single report.
59:07
Oh yeah, I thought, do you, I, I, I thought you might have
59:12
picked Russian Autumn Heart off Gold Afternoon Fix.
59:14
But I guess that's, I think that's Marty Wilson singing that
59:17
song. Or maybe, yeah, the bass player
59:20
sings it, but yeah. You know, I I just don't get
59:24
some of that album. Yeah.
59:26
And that's one song that I don't mind it, but it would be, Yeah.
59:30
Never resonate with me. OK.
59:37
All right, let me just mark this last one and shape it up.
59:42
I mean, it was it was bloodbath E with all the with all the
59:46
ones, all the bins. But you know, it just it really
59:53
goes to show that there was a lot in play.
59:55
Like sometimes there really didn't feel like a lot of no
59:58
chance songs. So this is going to happen.
1:00:03
The four that are. In it's always a compliment to
1:00:05
the band. Justin, isn't that really?
1:00:07
I think so. They've got awesome.
1:00:10
They're back very deep with their music, like it's, you
1:00:12
know. Yeah, I I think that I think it
1:00:16
always speaks, speaks to the depth of of the albums, like the
1:00:20
fact that three of us could, you know, pluck 20 songs out and
1:00:24
only only four, four hit all of us.
1:00:27
But like we covered 42, like exactly half of of the Discog
1:00:37
that we covered made it in the conversation somewhere.
1:00:41
That's that's crazy all right these twos let's start working
1:00:46
these out or actually let me run down the unanimous first almost
1:00:49
with you the unguarded moment under the Milky Way electric
1:00:52
lash are in all right. So these twos reptile already
1:00:57
yesterday tantalized for a moment where strangers a new
1:01:00
season lost mirror or I guess it's Mer and the reason I
1:01:08
wouldn't know that is because I've seen it.
1:01:09
I think MUR my whole life. So it makes sense that it's
1:01:13
that's how you actually spell it to be in your eyes, metropolis
1:01:18
and too fast for you. I'll leave it to you, Gavin, how
1:01:24
you want to approach in or something that's out.
1:01:28
It does it. Does it feel like there's
1:01:31
something hanging out here that's like, man, it's cool, but
1:01:34
it should go? Or does it feel more like, I
1:01:36
can't believe we didn't get everybody on that?
1:01:40
Well, I have both of those things going all right, which
1:01:44
you want first. You know, whichever 1 feels more
1:01:47
comfortable. So I so on the four, right,
1:01:51
we're it would be night, like I always am a fan of album
1:01:55
representation, right. So we have something off the
1:01:57
first album. We have something off the second
1:01:59
album, board crusade. We have something off the third
1:02:03
album, seance. We have something off starfish.
1:02:10
I mean there were so that I think we have 10 twos.
1:02:15
We've already said we have 10 twos for six slots.
1:02:19
Right. So we have to cut 4, right?
1:02:22
So I'm looking at 4:00 that I feel have to be in and one that
1:02:27
I feel like doesn't deserve to be in.
1:02:29
OK, since we were just talking about it, my least favorite of
1:02:37
all 10 of the songs is Merm and I really like that song, but
1:02:41
it's my least favorite. So I I would say that Mer is
1:02:44
kind of happy to be there. That.
1:02:50
We don't have anything on high dime.
1:02:55
Nothing's in yet. No, but there are 122 other two
1:03:00
other. Songs.
1:03:01
Yeah, tantalizing. Already yesterday are are still
1:03:04
hanging around. Oh.
1:03:05
Yes, I already yesterday I forgot about that one.
1:03:07
Yeah. So, I mean, you know, if we lost
1:03:11
Mer, you'd still have two chances to get something in from
1:03:13
heyday. That's OK, I'm OK with that.
1:03:16
All right, so let's drop Mer out is same question to you, Adam,
1:03:20
and then we'll start. We'll do the the the in part,
1:03:24
not the out. Is there one that you're kind of
1:03:25
looking at? They're like, man, it's cool
1:03:27
that somebody else had it, but it probably doesn't belong in
1:03:31
the 10. I don't know.
1:03:40
I really like all of these songs.
1:03:43
Maybe I might go. I might go the other way and
1:03:46
pick something, put something in that I really think needs to be
1:03:49
in. OK, yeah, if that's all right.
1:03:52
And there's no way we can go with one song, what I think is
1:03:59
one of the best albums in Australian albums ever.
1:04:02
So I I would put Reptile in. OK, any anything against reptile
1:04:10
Gavin? Only only that I think Lost is a
1:04:16
better song than Reptile. Sorry, sorry, I forgot.
1:04:19
No, sorry, I'll get it. Just change my mind.
1:04:22
Lost has to be in. OK, OK.
1:04:24
Into that, yeah. Not cut reptile, but let's put
1:04:27
lost in if Justin's OK with that because that's a.
1:04:31
Yeah, thank you. I almost sabotage myself there
1:04:35
because I do prefer Lost is like it probably is my favorite song
1:04:39
of theirs. So, yeah, thank you.
1:04:41
All right, so we'll take lost and then all right, so is let's
1:04:46
let's keep on the put in is what's another one you think
1:04:51
should be in Gavin at this point?
1:04:54
Well, so for album representation, so we were just
1:04:58
talking about how we don't have anything off heyday.
1:05:01
We have tantalized, which was on my my you know, my list until I
1:05:06
had to just like cut so many great songs.
1:05:09
I think already yesterday is like an absolute classic.
1:05:14
I would love to see that make it in.
1:05:16
I don't know if Adam has a a version at all to that song.
1:05:20
Not at all. I I, I was the odd, odd man out
1:05:23
on that one, but I, I love it. It's a great song, so.
1:05:27
All right. Great.
1:05:29
So let's get already yesterday. And that also gives us, you
1:05:33
know, not to say that we're we're getting rid of tantalize,
1:05:36
but to say that we now got heyday covered.
1:05:39
So yeah, all right, that brings us up to six.
1:05:43
All right, are any of these that are left Adam, like just
1:05:48
shockers that we just just didn't nail?
1:05:54
Like shocking that they're not in right.
1:05:57
Yeah, I'll probably not really, but I think album representation
1:06:02
at the moment our list ends with Starfish and I feel like, and
1:06:08
I'm I am, I am gutted that there's nothing from free
1:06:11
sequels or about I kind of get it.
1:06:13
It's a hard album to land on universe somebody.
1:06:16
But I do feel like Metropolis should be in because it does
1:06:21
represent a little bit of that era after Starfish.
1:06:24
I agree. OK, yeah, like I said, I don't
1:06:28
know where it dropped out on mine, but I know it made my
1:06:31
first pass so oh, let's put that one in.
1:06:35
That brings us up to 7. All right, so now we've got gold
1:06:43
afternoon fix represented, which will be the latest
1:06:46
representation that we have. All right, so now we need to
1:06:50
we'll. Just go through the songs of the
1:06:51
left. Sure, Reptile tantalized for a
1:06:56
moment. We're strangers.
1:06:57
A new season to be in your eyes and too fast for you.
1:07:09
And we're at 7:00, so we have 3 songs left.
1:07:12
We've got 2 from starfish, I mean, and two are still alive.
1:07:21
I I imagine we're not taking both with only three songs left.
1:07:30
Yeah, I've got one that I absolutely will fight for, but
1:07:34
it's not off that album. OK.
1:07:37
I mean this, yeah, this is a good, good place to to put it up
1:07:40
there. OK, so to be in Your eyes,
1:07:45
probably my second favorite song after lost.
1:07:47
So I would I'd be pretty keen to say that in.
1:07:51
At this. Point so I was out on to be in
1:07:53
your eyes that made my you know my list.
1:07:56
What do you think about Justin? Can I wheel and deal here?
1:08:04
Of course. So if we take to be in your
1:08:10
eyes, Adam, like you were the odd man out on for a moment,
1:08:16
we're strangers off the first the first song of the first
1:08:18
album, which is like one of my all time favorite church songs.
1:08:26
And then if we did that because of love that everyone except me
1:08:36
has for starfish, we could take the final start off starfish,
1:08:45
but I would argue for a new season over reptile.
1:08:50
I want to wrap up the whole conversation.
1:08:52
That's just where my brain is going.
1:08:53
So let's go back and start. I'm cool with to be in your eyes
1:08:57
being in. All right, Yeah.
1:08:58
So he's positing. Yeah.
1:09:02
You know I love. For a moment with strangers, it
1:09:06
was it was in my elimination battle, I think Monday morning
1:09:10
and for a moment with strangers are the two highest ranked ones
1:09:14
in that, in that in that list, if that makes sense.
1:09:17
So absolutely put it in cracking song, OK?
1:09:24
Great. And I actually pushed you to put
1:09:26
it in anyway because I knew you'd pick it just thinking it's
1:09:28
such a great track line. Yeah.
1:09:31
The I mean, you know, it it and it tell it informs me on the
1:09:34
band. I always I'm I'm a sucker for
1:09:37
that. All right, so that brings us up
1:09:39
to 9. You know, to Gavin's point, the
1:09:45
world seems to love starfish. I mean, we don't have to take
1:09:49
something from starfish. We could we could go with a
1:09:52
second from heyday. We have one more heyday left.
1:09:56
We've got this, I assume single too fast for you That's that's
1:10:00
around. How many we got off starfish,
1:10:04
now we got 2. Yes.
1:10:12
So reptiles the rocker and the new season is numb rocker.
1:10:19
Yeah. The new season is fantastic
1:10:22
song. It is a great song.
1:10:25
I mean, I could have picked every single song off of there,
1:10:28
you know, another song we'd never even talked about is
1:10:30
Antenna, which are one of my favorite songs.
1:10:32
Didn't even get a anyone. No one voted for that one.
1:10:35
But but, you know, so I could, and I've got this one on vinyl
1:10:40
and I listen to a lot record, so I'm more than happy for a new
1:10:45
season. We've probably covered the sound
1:10:48
of Rich Child in some aspects anyway.
1:10:52
OK, Yeah. Big, big song to leave out, but
1:10:54
yeah, I'm OK and let's go. Want to bring in the
1:10:58
dissolution. This.
1:10:59
He's like Lazora. I you, you don't like kings, The
1:11:06
song Kings, it's so good. I do like things, yeah.
1:11:11
All right, so. Lips.
1:11:12
I feel like it's sad that there's nothing represented from
1:11:15
that album. But but it touched a lot of
1:11:17
songs on that record, which kind of speaks to that record, you
1:11:21
know what I mean? It's like we kind of shuffle
1:11:24
that record in a lot of different ways.
1:11:26
It's kind of a vibe, you know? Yeah.
1:11:30
So we've got it. We've got our 10 here.
1:11:33
And all right, let me start at the top here, almost with you.
1:11:38
The unguarded moment under the Milky Way electric lash lost
1:11:42
already yesterday. Metropolis for a moment were
1:11:45
strangers to be in your eyes. And a new season rounds out our
1:11:50
10. Now Gavin, as I read off those
1:11:52
10, which one of those do you think is the one?
1:11:57
Well, I'm going to I will say my opinion.
1:12:04
I think I'm going to defer to Adam on this, but I'm just going
1:12:07
to like kind of set up the ball for the spike.
1:12:11
I think that one way to go is to put under the Milky Way.
1:12:17
It it it is like, I mean, it would make like so many like
1:12:23
greatest hits of the 80s. I think it is their killing
1:12:27
moon. I think it's, it's the only song
1:12:31
that achieved any kind of recognition in the States and,
1:12:34
and it got a lot of airplay in the States, at least with the
1:12:38
college radio crowd. I'm thinking about also the end
1:12:42
of the year. You know, I think that that's
1:12:46
probably a a, a a a solid pick, but then to because it can't be
1:12:55
too easy. I think the next, the only other
1:13:00
song I think that's really in contention is The Unguarded
1:13:06
Moment. All right.
1:13:09
What do you think, Adam? Yeah, I think it's a three horse
1:13:13
race, but the the third one I would put in is almost with you
1:13:18
that the Spanish guitar in the middle.
1:13:21
But to be honest, I do think, I think if the Church were better
1:13:28
known band, I'd probably say let's not go with Under the
1:13:31
Milky Way because everyone knows that.
1:13:33
But unfortunately people don't know it as well as like good and
1:13:37
so. And it is an absolute like it
1:13:41
saddens me a little bit that it's not put up there with a lot
1:13:43
of the greatest songs from, you know, R.E.M.
1:13:45
And The Smiths and the Cure and other really major 80s bands.
1:13:52
So I think it deserves a chance and and someone should fight for
1:13:56
it. Yeah.
1:13:59
Gavin and Justin at year at year.
1:14:01
And I'll be interested to see what Frodo thinks.
1:14:03
Because surely he's heard of them.
1:14:04
Because he's, he's, he's right through that whole era.
1:14:09
So surely he's heard of them. Yeah.
1:14:13
You know. Get an Australian band in there.
1:14:15
That's that's what I asked for you guys.
1:14:18
I am with honor the Milky Way. I think I, I love I I, I think
1:14:26
Adam nailed it though, like I would like to I, I would like to
1:14:31
do the thing where we take unguarded moment because I think
1:14:35
I like that song just a hair more.
1:14:40
But if there is any kind of nostalgia like to, you know,
1:14:45
with whoever ends up on that panel and to anybody who's
1:14:48
who's, you know, seen Donnie Darko, like hopefully we can
1:14:52
kind of play into that by giving them this song because like you
1:14:54
said, I I didn't recognize it. You know, it doesn't mean I
1:14:58
haven't heard it. It doesn't mean it just didn't
1:15:00
register when I heard it. So I think if this is our best
1:15:06
chance to get somebody in, that's probably the one that we
1:15:09
want to take. And, you know, obviously,
1:15:13
hopefully we can get get them to the list to listen to all these
1:15:15
other great songs. So yeah.
1:15:18
Yeah. All right, let's lock that in
1:15:21
under the Milky Way. It'll be our number one, and
1:15:24
then I'll run this down one last go.
1:15:26
We'll wrap her on up under the Milky Way is our number one.
1:15:31
Almost with you, the unguarded moment Electric Lash lost
1:15:36
already yesterday, Metropolis for a moment we're strangers to
1:15:39
be in your eyes, and a new season is going to round out our
1:15:43
ten. With that said, let's let Under
1:15:46
the Milky Way get a moment in the Sun.
1:15:50
I think about the loveless fascination under the Milky Way
1:15:59
tonight. Delicious.
1:16:04
I think we've done it. We've turned people on to the
1:16:07
the church and we've been to a lot of great songs.
1:16:10
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