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Next Stop Paranormal - Part 1 · Trapped Souls Podcast

• 0:00
  SPEAKER_00: Hey, welcome to Trap Souls Podcast.
• 0:02
  SPEAKER_00: I am here with NextStop Paranormal T, one of the members of the group from the Land Down Under, as we call it, from Australia.
• 0:09
  SPEAKER_00: So how's Australia doing?
• 0:11
  SPEAKER_03: Today it's uh actually a hot day, so we're doing all right.
• 0:15
  SPEAKER_03: We've had some crazy weather, but yeah, no, it's it's not bad.
• 0:18
  SPEAKER_00: Not bad.
• 0:19
  SPEAKER_00: So what part of Australia are you actually from?
• 0:22
  SPEAKER_03: So myself, I'm originally from uh Sydney, New South Wales, from the western suburbs.
• 0:28
  SPEAKER_03: Uh I moved up to Newcastle, New South Wales.
• 0:32
  SPEAKER_03: So it's about two hours up the coast from Sydney.
• 0:36
  SPEAKER_03: Um, and that's where that's where I reside.
• 0:38
  SPEAKER_03: Um, and then the other part of the group, the other three girls, uh, my partner is also part of our group.
• 0:45
  SPEAKER_03: Obviously, we live together.
• 0:46
  SPEAKER_03: Um, but the other three girls are in the western suburbs of Sydney, so it's kind of like my little link to home.
• 0:56
  SPEAKER_00: So, how many hummies are in your group?
• 1:00
  SPEAKER_03: We currently have five.
• 1:02
  SPEAKER_00: Five.
• 1:02
  SPEAKER_03: We currently have five, and we're all girls.
• 1:04
  SPEAKER_03: And I know everyone thinks that would be a bit crazy um at times, and yes, it is.
• 1:10
  SPEAKER_03: Um, but there is they're just five of us girls at the moment, so and then we do have like some people who moderate for us, like when we go live on TikTok and things like that as well.
• 1:19
  SPEAKER_03: So one of our moderators is actually in England, um, and another one is one of our mates up here in Newcastle as well.
• 1:27
  SPEAKER_03: So, but five of us investigate, yeah.
• 1:30
  SPEAKER_00: That's nice.
• 1:31
  SPEAKER_00: So I do have to ask one question because it always pops up on your Facebook.
• 1:35
  SPEAKER_00: What is up with the couch?
• 1:37
  SPEAKER_03: Sorry?
• 1:38
  SPEAKER_00: What's up with the couch?
• 1:40
  SPEAKER_00: The couch.
• 1:41
  SPEAKER_03: Are you talking the the picture?
• 1:44
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, because you guys are always yeah, it it always comes up.
• 1:48
  SPEAKER_03: We've had questions about the couch.
• 1:50
  SPEAKER_03: So that couch is actually at one of the locations we investigate.
• 1:54
  SPEAKER_03: Okay, and um, it was really funny because it was coming into Christmas, and we didn't know when we went to do this investigation in November that Christmas lights have been set up throughout this whole thing, and a couch had been put in.
• 2:07
  SPEAKER_03: And I've never seen this said couch before when we've investigated here.
• 2:12
  SPEAKER_03: And my partner was the one like, guys, we need to get a photo in front of this couch, and we're all like, people are gonna be like, What's with the couch?
• 2:21
  SPEAKER_03: And I'm like, Oh well, let's just do it as a point of discussion, I suppose.
• 2:26
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, but it's it's literally just an antique couch that's been placed into the School of Arts.
• 2:31
  SPEAKER_03: We don't know why.
• 2:33
  SPEAKER_03: There was no like, hey guys, we've got a new piece of furniture.
• 2:36
  SPEAKER_03: Um, it was just there, but um, everyone loves it.
• 2:40
  SPEAKER_03: Like, we sit on it throughout like the investigation, and it's just really comfy, but it's just like literally a couch has just been put into one of the locations.
• 2:50
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I was going through your pictures, I'm like, there's the couch, there's the couch.
• 2:53
  SPEAKER_00: I'm like, there has to be something with this couch, yeah.
• 2:57
  SPEAKER_03: So which is funny because like when we actually like a few of us sat on it to do like Sties and a spirit box session, and when like not myself, it was mainly Linda and no, sorry, sorry, it was Ash and Alyssa when they sat on this couch, like it felt like people were like just sitting down and like putting their hand on your knee, and it they're just like it's tripping me out.
• 3:23
  SPEAKER_03: And I'm like, just roll with it, guys, roll with it, let's see where where this goes.
• 3:27
  SPEAKER_03: So um, I I'd say it would be um just brought in probably from an antique store, maybe an op shop.
• 3:33
  SPEAKER_03: You never know.
• 3:34
  SPEAKER_03: We don't we don't always get the background of why they put um like pieces of furniture in.
• 3:39
  SPEAKER_03: So, but it was interesting to see them squirm when the blindfold was on, and they're like brushing their knee and pushing something away that wasn't there.
• 3:48
  SPEAKER_03: So yeah, but the couch was a very centerpiece because it's on the stage of the School of Arts where we do a lot of our spirit box session and um and use a lot of our equipment is on the stage, so it was it that's the reason why there's uh said couch in a lot of photos, Australia-wise, what like paranormal?
• 4:10
  SPEAKER_00: Like when we think paranormal in the United States, we think you know, United States and UK.
• 4:16
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 4:17
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, so like what do you have going on over there?
• 4:21
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, look, that's that's an interesting question because I've had this discussion with people before, and they're like, but you're a tiny little island, but we're a tiny little island with a lot of history.
• 4:32
  SPEAKER_03: We're talking, you know, from our First Nations people all the way through to like you know, colonization, convicts.
• 4:40
  SPEAKER_03: Um, and we do have a lot of history in this tiny little island.
• 4:46
  SPEAKER_03: So, you know, we've had asylums built when the gold rush took off, you know, people lost their minds over trying to find gold and you know, trying to get that get rich quick schemes and things like that.
• 4:59
  SPEAKER_03: So they we needed asylums built to house people who were deemed a lunatic.
• 5:05
  SPEAKER_03: And um, we have old hospitals, we've also got convict-built building buildings as well.
• 5:10
  SPEAKER_03: Um, so we've got like a huge history.
• 5:15
  SPEAKER_03: Um, the only thing is that some of our buildings, his like our historical buildings, actually, instead of them just going dilapidated or just going to ruin, businesses will move in.
• 5:26
  SPEAKER_03: So it might become heritage listed, but a business will move into that building and actually run their business from these heritage buildings so they don't go to like shambles.
• 5:36
  SPEAKER_03: Um, but we do have like our old jails, our old asylums.
• 5:40
  SPEAKER_03: Um, we've got schools of art that were built in the 1800s, we've got old homesteads that were built in the 1800s.
• 5:48
  SPEAKER_03: You've also got like Old Government House.
• 5:51
  SPEAKER_03: Um, we investigated Old Government House on a tour through Appy, who is another uh touring company.
• 5:58
  SPEAKER_03: Amazing people.
• 6:00
  SPEAKER_03: Um, but old government house is a convict-built building and it's now heritage listed as a UNISCO heritage listed site.
• 6:08
  SPEAKER_03: So we do have a very colonial convict past, and a lot of our buildings are there, and some have been demolished, unfortunately, or you know, they've left to ruin and they're no longer there.
• 6:20
  SPEAKER_03: But yeah, we've got a lot to offer.
• 6:23
  SPEAKER_03: We've even got like if we're talking about infectious disease, you've got Q Station, which was built um at North Head near Manley in Sydney, um, and that was to um help fight or or stop infectious disease coming into the colony of Sydney in you know um 1832, it was established and it started as little tents and then built into the thing that's there.
• 6:49
  SPEAKER_03: So we have a lot, um, but I suppose it's not as broadcasted or as put out there as what America and UK do, because let's face it, you guys have some really big places over in those locations, so but we do have quite a bit.
• 7:06
  SPEAKER_00: That's just because we have more crazy people, that's all.
• 7:08
  SPEAKER_03: I mean, that's well, I don't know.
• 7:11
  SPEAKER_03: I don't know about that one.
• 7:12
  SPEAKER_03: See, like we have um we we just done um Aradale Asylum and Beechworth Asylum, also known as Mayday Hill.
• 7:19
  SPEAKER_03: Um, and that was so Aradale was in operation for what did I say over 126 years with 13,000.
• 7:29
  SPEAKER_03: Now we're talking 13,000 reported deaths of inmates, patients, and staff.
• 7:34
  SPEAKER_03: And then you also had Beachworth, which had a reported 9,000 deaths um built in 1867, and both of those were closed in the 90s.
• 7:44
  SPEAKER_03: So our asylums went from like you know, 1800s through to the 90s, so that that had a lot of history and a lot of a lot of trap souls, let's put it that way.
• 7:56
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, so yeah, so um it's just crazy to think like you think in the 90s, I was like 12, 13, and I wouldn't have put that piece piece of puzzle together.
• 8:10
  SPEAKER_00: No, I mean yeah, you talk about our history, maybe United States and UK, we just publicize it more.
• 8:15
  unknown: Yeah.
• 8:15
  SPEAKER_00: With TV and everything.
• 8:16
  SPEAKER_00: Do you guys have any like TV shows over there that do paranormal?
• 8:19
  SPEAKER_03: Or yeah, look, we we did.
• 8:22
  SPEAKER_03: We did.
• 8:22
  SPEAKER_03: We had um, I think it was Ghost Hunters Australia or Ghost Hunters International did an Australian base TV show, and they went to like Elizabeth Street, Quarantine Station.
• 8:34
  SPEAKER_03: We also have Cockatoo Island that featured on there, but we don't have things such as like your your ghost adventures or like Haunt TV, which were like our group obsessed with Haunt TV.
• 8:47
  SPEAKER_03: Um, but we don't have as big of TV show based about the Australian paranormal, which would be amazing, amazing.
• 8:58
  SPEAKER_03: A lot of ours is like through YouTube and the social media platforms that you see more of what Australia has to offer, um, which which kind of stumped me because I'm like, we have some really great locations, like it would be cool to see a TV show, yeah.
• 9:17
  SPEAKER_03: You know, go go to these places, and we do have like a lot of American, you know, um streamers and investigators come over and do these locations, but still we haven't really had a lot of TV shows.
• 9:32
  SPEAKER_03: Um, so the only one I'm sure of was that, like I said, I think it was I think it was called like Australia's Most Haunted or Ghost Hunters International did an Australian TV show for that.
• 9:44
  SPEAKER_03: But um, yeah, it's it's pretty it's pretty wild we don't have it because it would showcase so much that we do have to offer.
• 9:54
  SPEAKER_03: So it's I I would love to see it happen in fruition.
• 10:00
  SPEAKER_03: Like get us the shows to show the rest of the world what we have to offer.
• 10:05
  SPEAKER_03: We have some like amazing Australian YouTubers as well, um, who do go to these locations um and they do investigate them.
• 10:16
  SPEAKER_03: So, what I always say to people is if you want to see what Australia has to offer from Australian paranormal investigators, just jump on YouTube, type in Australian Paranormal team, and like literally the teams just come up and they go to these places, you know what I mean?
• 10:34
  SPEAKER_03: Like they will show you in Beachworth, they'll show you Aradale.
• 10:38
  SPEAKER_03: That's something ourselves this year in 2026 are going to branch into because people are like, Well, why aren't you guys YouTubeing?
• 10:46
  SPEAKER_03: Like, we want to see what you're doing, not just photos and like snippet videos.
• 10:51
  SPEAKER_03: And we didn't realize that we totally just zoned out and didn't think about that.
• 10:57
  SPEAKER_03: So that's something we're going to go into as well.
• 11:00
  SPEAKER_03: Um, but there is some amazing, amazing Australian groups out there that I always tell everyone hey, just jump literally jump on YouTube, type in Australian Paranormal Team, and you would be amazed.
• 11:14
  SPEAKER_03: And that's how you know we would have to get it out without the the big networks pushing for it.
• 11:22
  SPEAKER_00: Well, I mean, a lot now, those big networks.
• 11:24
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, there's only a couple of shows on there.
• 11:26
  SPEAKER_00: A lot of people are going to YouTube.
• 11:28
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 11:29
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 11:30
  SPEAKER_00: I was you know, I always do this in my investigations now is send someone in solo in the beginning and just go through and show the building, not really investigate, but just show the building.
• 11:43
  SPEAKER_00: And I mean, that might be something you guys can do because we've never seen that building before, so it'd be interesting to me.
• 11:52
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, yeah, which is really funny because we we do that, but we never thought to put it on YouTube, yeah.
• 12:00
  SPEAKER_03: And so we we had like a a we call it a team meeting, it's not really a team meeting, it's just us girls sitting around talking paranormal.
• 12:08
  SPEAKER_03: But um, we're like, guys, why are we not youtubing this?
• 12:12
  SPEAKER_03: Why are we not showing like the location and we're just showing photos?
• 12:17
  SPEAKER_03: Like we we should be showing, you know, how we do baselines, how we do you know, emf readings to make sure that there's no um environmental um aspects coming into our you know techniques and how we go about setting up and what the location's about and give the history because we do that on our lives, but we never thought, hey, let's record it and put it on YouTube.
• 12:42
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 12:43
  SPEAKER_03: So that's something we're definitely definitely gonna do this year.
• 12:47
  SPEAKER_03: It's just um we're having a break, like I said, um, and January is my time to show and where I'm gonna start getting the locations booked in and get things happening like that for us.
• 12:59
  SPEAKER_03: So, but it's definitely, yeah, I 100% agree with you.
• 13:03
  SPEAKER_03: It would be interesting to show people the location with a walkthrough.
• 13:07
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I mean, to be honest, the more I get into the paranormal and doing investigations, it's more about the building and the history than really investigation itself.
• 13:17
  SPEAKER_00: It's uh we got one question, but that was just seeing something from Australia would interest me, and just you walk around saying, Hey, this is you know, haunted and was whatever.
• 13:28
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, that's that's what I like to see, but I'm just one person, so yeah.
• 13:33
  SPEAKER_03: Well, no, no, though like uh we totally agree with you, right?
• 13:36
  SPEAKER_03: So we love the paranormal, love everything about the paranormal, but we're mad history buffs as well.
• 13:42
  SPEAKER_03: So if we're going to go to a location, what my biggest thing is, what does that look what was that location used for?
• 13:49
  SPEAKER_03: What did what come out of that location?
• 13:51
  SPEAKER_03: Who built that location?
• 13:53
  SPEAKER_03: I want to know the architect.
• 13:54
  SPEAKER_03: Was it convict built?
• 13:55
  SPEAKER_03: Do you know what I mean?
• 13:56
  SPEAKER_03: We want to know the background to the location.
• 14:00
  SPEAKER_03: Um, with in regards to the hauntings and things that happen in there, I like to tell people, please just don't tell us, like confirm it at the end, like let us experience that, but we still like to know, you know, what that location's about.
• 14:15
  SPEAKER_03: Like, how did that location come about?
• 14:18
  SPEAKER_03: How was it used for what it was used for?
• 14:21
  SPEAKER_03: So, where like myself, I go mad.
• 14:23
  SPEAKER_03: Like, if like weeks before I'm researching, I'm going to the library, I'm going state archives, I'm looking at different newspaper clippings just to find as much as I can out about a location.
• 14:35
  SPEAKER_00: That's cool.
• 14:36
  SPEAKER_00: So Alisa has a question.
• 14:39
  SPEAKER_00: Uh, what was your most impacting experience?
• 14:43
  SPEAKER_03: Well, that's that's really funny because um I'm I'm always one.
• 14:51
  SPEAKER_03: If if someone gets scared, I don't run, I like run away, I run to it.
• 14:56
  SPEAKER_03: Um but we just have finished doing our well, we went to Aradale Asylum, so that's where there's reported 13,000 deaths built in the 1800s to house certain amount of people.
• 15:10
  SPEAKER_03: We're talking about, you know, elect convulsive electric therapy, we're talking about solitary confinement, salt boxing, you name it, everything happened at this asylum.
• 15:21
  SPEAKER_03: So we went to the asylum, or was you know, you you get to the doors of this asylum, and once you cross that threshold, it's like a different world.
• 15:31
  SPEAKER_03: Like this feeling comes over you, and you're like, Oh, we're not in Kansas anymore.
• 15:36
  SPEAKER_03: Like it's just you can feel it, it's so ominous.
• 15:40
  SPEAKER_03: And literally, as you're driving up, it snakes the road snakes up like this, and then it opens up and literally it says Aradale, and the L is like literally hung, like a horror story, right?
• 15:51
  SPEAKER_03: So we've gone in and I saw a lot, but my brain, I'm like a skeptical believer, like I like to try and make sense of it.
• 15:59
  SPEAKER_03: Can I debunk that happening before I go?
• 16:01
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, that's 100% paranormal.
• 16:03
  SPEAKER_03: I'm like, okay, was that a light?
• 16:05
  SPEAKER_03: Was that a car horn?
• 16:06
  SPEAKER_03: Were there people walking upstairs?
• 16:08
  SPEAKER_03: Like, I'm trying to debunk things.
• 16:10
  SPEAKER_03: So we get to what was known as the staff accommodation because the staff had a three-story accommodation at the back of the asylum.
• 16:19
  SPEAKER_03: So the first floor, no problem.
• 16:21
  SPEAKER_03: Second floor is where our tour guide Jaz or Jasmine took us there.
• 16:26
  SPEAKER_03: And there's, I don't know if you guys have done this experiment, but where you set up live cameras on a floor, and then you by yourself decide to go walk the floor while everyone is watching you on the cameras below.
• 16:41
  SPEAKER_03: So on the second floor, Jasmine said to us, like, you're getting a lantern, you walk two flights of stairs, walk across the third floor through the other hospital doors, back down to the second floor.
• 16:53
  SPEAKER_03: Usually I'm like grabbing that lantern to go first.
• 16:56
  SPEAKER_03: She's like, All right, who's who wants to go first?
• 16:59
  SPEAKER_03: And I blanked out.
• 17:00
  SPEAKER_03: I was like, no, I don't want to do it.
• 17:03
  SPEAKER_03: And every like all the girls in the group, like Alyssa, Ash, and Linda, looked at me and they're like, What?
• 17:10
  SPEAKER_03: You're not gonna do it.
• 17:11
  SPEAKER_03: And I'm like, nah, I don't, I don't think I want to.
• 17:14
  SPEAKER_03: Like everything in me was like, don't go on the third floor.
• 17:17
  SPEAKER_03: Don't go on the third floor.
• 17:19
  SPEAKER_03: So anyway, I was about fourth.
• 17:21
  SPEAKER_03: So Alyssa did the first round.
• 17:23
  SPEAKER_03: She didn't come back down and she's like, I don't want to talk about it.
• 17:27
  SPEAKER_03: Let's not talk about it until you go up and do it.
• 17:31
  SPEAKER_03: So my turn come and I've got this lantern, and I just remember walking because it's hospital doors to go through each floor, both sides.
• 17:39
  SPEAKER_03: I've opened the hospital doors to the second floor to ascend the stairs.
• 17:43
  SPEAKER_03: And I opened the door, and as soon as I opened the door, the lantern was like shaking.
• 17:47
  SPEAKER_03: I was just, it was just pure fear.
• 17:50
  SPEAKER_03: And I've I haven't had that in many, many years.
• 17:54
  SPEAKER_03: So I get to the third floor, and you've got to open the hospital doors to walk through.
• 17:58
  SPEAKER_03: So I've opened the hospital doors and I refused to look straight ahead.
• 18:01
  SPEAKER_03: I was like, I don't know why I'm not looking straight ahead.
• 18:05
  SPEAKER_03: So I walked in and there's doors as you're walking along because it's it's accommodation.
• 18:11
  SPEAKER_03: So you you've got multiple doors on the hallway, and it felt like the hallway just kept stretching, like one of those horror movies that you know just keeps going and going.
• 18:19
  SPEAKER_03: And I got halfway and there's like a I don't know if it's an old like fireplace or like a chimney or something, but I froze.
• 18:27
  SPEAKER_03: I just froze, and everything in me was like, Don't look up, don't look up.
• 18:31
  SPEAKER_03: So I thought, well, I can't stand here forever.
• 18:34
  SPEAKER_03: So as I've looked up, there the hospital doors at the end, they open like out.
• 18:41
  SPEAKER_03: Um I've looked up and there's an accommodation doorway to the left, and this what I was trying to figure out in my head was it was a black mist come out of the doorway, stopped, and then in front of the hospital for doors, it started to go up and form a shape.
• 19:00
  SPEAKER_03: And I was like, nah, this isn't happening.
• 19:03
  SPEAKER_03: Like, I'm tired, like there's smoke coming up from outside.
• 19:07
  SPEAKER_03: Maybe there's an old pipe that's created condensation.
• 19:10
  SPEAKER_03: Like my brain's now starting to go, we've got to figure this out.
• 19:14
  SPEAKER_03: Why is this happening?
• 19:15
  SPEAKER_03: So as this shape's forming, my legs were stuck like glue, and I wanted to run.
• 19:21
  SPEAKER_03: And I don't run, I'm just like, listen, I'm getting too old for this, and I don't have the physique to be your same bolt out of this location, right?
• 19:29
  SPEAKER_03: So I'm I'm standing there and I'm watching this form, and it formed to the perfect shape of like a six-foot high shadow person, and um I was just like, oh no, I I've I had to physically walk through that to get back to the second floor.
• 19:50
  SPEAKER_03: And um I was very lucky because I started to say a few choice words that I'm not gonna say here because I literally was starting to pack it.
• 20:00
  SPEAKER_03: And I was very lucky because Alyssa from our group was on the other side and she heard everything that was going on.
• 20:06
  SPEAKER_03: So she's swung open the hospital doors.
• 20:08
  SPEAKER_03: As she did, it was like poof, it just went and I yeah, it just disappeared.
• 20:14
  SPEAKER_03: She's linked arms with me and she's like, You've got to go forward.
• 20:17
  SPEAKER_03: That's the only choice you've got right now.
• 20:18
  SPEAKER_03: We're going forward.
• 20:19
  SPEAKER_03: She goes, I know what you saw because I saw it.
• 20:21
  SPEAKER_03: She goes, but I wasn't going to tell you because you were already in a state of mind before coming up.
• 20:27
  SPEAKER_03: So she linked arms with me, and as we're walking, this thing's formed again in front of the door.
• 20:33
  SPEAKER_03: She literally grabbed it, pushed it, I watched it go into the other room and we walked downstairs.
• 20:39
  SPEAKER_03: Um, when I got to the second floor, I was I was just in a state.
• 20:43
  SPEAKER_03: I'm like, that floor needs a PDA.
• 20:46
  SPEAKER_03: Like, you need to sign a warning statement to go up there.
• 20:49
  SPEAKER_03: And I actually had to get taken out of the building because I just like I was shaking, like I was beside myself.
• 20:57
  SPEAKER_03: And um, once I got out of the building, I was fine.
• 20:59
  SPEAKER_03: It's like nothing happened.
• 21:01
  SPEAKER_03: And um, the girls in the group were like, what in the world happened?
• 21:06
  SPEAKER_03: Like you're the person who will just run at things because you're like, I need to get a photo, I need a video, I need this.
• 21:13
  SPEAKER_03: They're like, you just literally froze.
• 21:15
  SPEAKER_03: We've never seen you freeze, we've never seen you lose color.
• 21:18
  SPEAKER_03: Like, and I'm just like, I don't want to talk about it, don't want to talk about it.
• 21:22
  SPEAKER_03: But when we went back in and we went to the second floor, people actually said to me, What you had seen up there, we watched form on the camera.
• 21:32
  SPEAKER_03: So they actually saw it forming as I'm seeing it forming upstairs.
• 21:37
  SPEAKER_03: And I just it blew my mind because for me, I'm trying to rationalize and debunk something that's going on.
• 21:44
  SPEAKER_03: And then I didn't say to them, This is what I saw.
• 21:48
  SPEAKER_03: They turned around and said to me, Are you okay?
• 21:50
  SPEAKER_03: Because this is what we saw on the floor.
• 21:53
  SPEAKER_03: And then I confirmed once they had told me what they saw, and we saw the exact same thing at the exact same.
• 22:00
  SPEAKER_03: Time and the only problem is that camera, while everyone was talking about it while it was going on, no one thought to record it.
• 22:09
  SPEAKER_03: So now it is an experience that I can only like confirm with other people who've seen it.
• 22:17
  SPEAKER_03: But that hands down, I say has been my most fearful experience I've experienced within the past 10 years.
• 22:29
  SPEAKER_03: So I can't give answers to people how why it happened.
• 22:34
  SPEAKER_03: It's just that floor is known for an entity that is quite dark in nature.
• 22:41
  SPEAKER_03: Um, I don't like to say demonic, but he's not a nice, he's very malevolent.
• 22:46
  SPEAKER_03: He will make you feel like you're the size of an ant because that's how I felt.
• 22:50
  SPEAKER_03: I felt like, you know, I honey, I shrunk the kid.
• 22:53
  SPEAKER_03: Like I went to like this size, like a little pee.
• 22:56
  SPEAKER_03: Um so yeah, like, but in saying that, it's something we want to go back to.
• 23:03
  SPEAKER_03: Um, will all of us go back in that building?
• 23:06
  SPEAKER_03: Probably not.
• 23:08
  SPEAKER_03: Am I the crazy one who's going to?
• 23:10
  SPEAKER_03: Probably.
• 23:11
  SPEAKER_03: So um yeah, that's that's definitely my most one that made me go, oh, yeah.
• 23:16
  SPEAKER_03: And it actually left me having nightmares for about two weeks after.
• 23:22
  SPEAKER_03: And um, I had to sage myself and do some blessings to get rid of it.
• 23:26
  SPEAKER_03: Um, because it just it lingered, like it just affected me.
• 23:30
  SPEAKER_03: So yeah.
• 23:32
  SPEAKER_00: It's it's weird.
• 23:33
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, I'm kind of like you, I like running towards stuff.
• 23:35
  SPEAKER_00: So when something like that does happen, I guess it just kind of pisses you off.
• 23:41
  SPEAKER_00: It makes it a challenge.
• 23:43
  SPEAKER_00: Like, you want to go back there.
• 23:45
  SPEAKER_00: Like we have a place up in Ohio that we've had stuff happen, and like I just want to go back.
• 23:50
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know if it's calling me back or like like it's to the point where like maybe I just want to go down to this place do a solo.
• 23:58
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I'm like, it's probably gonna be stupid of me to do this, but I might do it.
• 24:02
  SPEAKER_00: I'm like, everybody's like, no, that's stupid because we've had there's been known groups that go in there that will never step foot in there again.
• 24:10
  SPEAKER_02: Well, yeah, okay, that's the same as this place, yeah.
• 24:14
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, but like you, like challenge accepted, right?
• 24:18
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, it's time to go.
• 24:19
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, exactly.
• 24:21
  SPEAKER_03: But like I I went and did the floor again by myself that same night because I'm like, no, like you're not gonna have one over me, and it wasn't so much I wanted to challenge it, I just wanted to take my own power back.
• 24:36
  SPEAKER_03: So, like, I was like, no, I'm doing this, and I and I did do it and I was fine, but mind you, the legs were shaking, the knees were knocking.
• 24:44
  SPEAKER_03: But I still went and did it, but yeah, it's it I agree with you, it's like a pull.
• 24:49
  SPEAKER_03: But when I'm getting pulled to, I don't know about yourself, but when I'm getting pulled to a location, I'm also very precautious why that pull is happening.
• 24:59
  SPEAKER_03: Um, so I go in with my guards up, and the group get their guards up and be like, all right, we've got to kind of protect ourselves because why is this pull happening?
• 25:10
  SPEAKER_03: Why is this incessant need to go back occurring?
• 25:15
  SPEAKER_03: So we're very precautious at times like that.
• 25:19
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I don't think you're challenging the entity, you're challenging yourself.
• 25:23
  SPEAKER_00: Like, yeah, you know, it's just you know, personal competition, I guess.
• 25:28
  SPEAKER_00: Like you're not gonna beat me, like I'm still gonna go do this.
• 25:31
  SPEAKER_00: You want to make sure you're you know, it was Aaron asked, has there been time maybe you shouldn't be doing this?
• 25:40
  SPEAKER_00: And I'm assuming that would be your most fearful time, but did you ever question yourself?
• 25:46
  SPEAKER_00: Like, why am I doing this?
• 25:48
  SPEAKER_03: Like at the time, or just in general?
• 25:50
  SPEAKER_03: In general, in general, um, look, there has there has been times uh, and and that's just a i I'd say a human uh reaction, like you think, what why am I doing this?
• 26:05
  SPEAKER_03: Like, why why am I putting myself in this predicament?
• 26:08
  SPEAKER_03: Why am I putting myself in these situations?
• 26:11
  SPEAKER_03: And that human, you know, need to know about the unknown kicks in.
• 26:19
  SPEAKER_03: But then as well, like I've been around this since I was a baby.
• 26:23
  SPEAKER_03: Like I don't, I never got the option to just tap out and be like, I don't want to see that.
• 26:29
  SPEAKER_03: Like my mum was obsessed, and when I mean obsessed, like obsessed with old Victorian houses, old convict-built houses.
• 26:38
  SPEAKER_03: I grew up in haunted homes.
• 26:40
  SPEAKER_03: Um, you know, and I'd be having a conversation to Gladys, but Gladys is not living in our house as a living person.
• 26:48
  SPEAKER_03: And my mum was very open with it and being like, look, you know, we live in an old home, people will talk to you, you know, my family, like my my great-grandmother used to read tea leaves and was a very, very intuitive woman.
• 27:03
  SPEAKER_03: Um, so I never really got to tap out at a young age, and as I got older, and I think like every human, we're like, well, what's on the other side of the veil?
• 27:15
  SPEAKER_03: Like, why did I see this as a kid, or why am I experiencing these things?
• 27:19
  SPEAKER_03: And I've lived in haunted homes my whole life, even my house now.
• 27:23
  SPEAKER_03: Um, but it's it has come up, it has come up where I'm like, do you know what?
• 27:29
  SPEAKER_03: This I think I'm done.
• 27:32
  SPEAKER_03: And then something will happen, or something will pique my interest, and I'm like, oh, maybe I'm not done.
• 27:38
  SPEAKER_03: Do you know what I mean?
• 27:39
  SPEAKER_03: Maybe I I've got a little bit more in me.
• 27:41
  SPEAKER_03: And I just realized this is something that I love.
• 27:46
  SPEAKER_03: It's my passion, it's what drives me.
• 27:49
  SPEAKER_03: And I love that NSP isn't just for us.
• 27:53
  SPEAKER_03: We always say we are we are doing it, but we're taking you on the journey because we want people to interact with us, we want people to share their stories in a safe place where they're not going to get judged.
• 28:04
  SPEAKER_03: And and there is still a lot of judgment around people interacting with spirits, you know, that's ridiculous, blah, blah, blah.
• 28:11
  SPEAKER_03: So people reach out to us and we genuinely care and we generally want to speak to people.
• 28:16
  SPEAKER_03: And if we if I shut NSP down and I was like, I'm done with it, I'm taking away other people's safe places as well.
• 28:24
  SPEAKER_03: So with the passion and the love we have for what we do, and we love spending time together, we're all friends in the group.
• 28:32
  SPEAKER_03: I would I would take that away from all of us, and I'm just not willing to do that, especially when it's something that's ingrained in me.
• 28:39
  SPEAKER_03: Like I love doing it and I love sharing it.
• 28:42
  SPEAKER_03: But um, yeah, there's there's been times and there's there is one place that I will never ever go back to.
• 28:49
  SPEAKER_03: It's only one place, one cemetery, and um I will never go back there, and that's yeah, and I've made that my rule.
• 28:57
  SPEAKER_03: Like, no, it's not happening.
• 28:59
  SPEAKER_03: So there is times where I do check out of places, um, but checking out altogether, not an option.
• 29:08
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I mean, just for everybody out there, checking out a place is not taking up the challenge or quitting.
• 29:14
  SPEAKER_00: It's just you gotta follow your instincts, your body, like it ain't worth it, you know.
• 29:21
  SPEAKER_03: That's well, that's it.
• 29:23
  SPEAKER_03: And it's and it's not because of the dead that are there, it's the living.
• 29:27
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 29:28
  SPEAKER_03: Do you know what I mean?
• 29:29
  SPEAKER_03: And um the living caused a lot of problems, um, and it became too dangerous.
• 29:36
  SPEAKER_03: And I just went, Well, I'm not putting my myself or my team in that predicament.
• 29:40
  SPEAKER_03: So we just like like our saying is we're more afraid of the living than we are of the dead.
• 29:47
  SPEAKER_03: So yeah, we we just won't do it, and that's the thing, and I think sometimes I hear people call people sooks or or wussie, or you know, you're a baby, you won't go in there.
• 29:58
  SPEAKER_03: But you've got to realize like if someone goes into somewhere and they have a reaction and it's not good for them or it's good for their soul or or their physical or mental well-being, why why why force them to do it?
• 30:10
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, so we're like, no, we come up as a team and say no, we will not go back to that cemetery.
• 30:16
  SPEAKER_03: We never disclose that location of that cemetery either, because um it has been desecrated and it is still used.
• 30:22
  SPEAKER_03: Um, so we don't disclose that that location um for the safety and and the well-being of other people and um hopefully for the souls to get some peace.
• 30:32
  SPEAKER_03: But yeah, it's it's not good, so we just won't go back.
• 30:37
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I mean, there's been a couple of investigations we went on, and you know, I just give a feeling in there.
• 30:45
  SPEAKER_00: I just said no one's doing solos tonight, you know.
• 30:49
  SPEAKER_00: I'm a huge solo person, I try to push everybody to do solos because I believe it's big in a paranormal field.
• 30:56
  SPEAKER_00: But there's one location, and I'm like, yeah, just no one's doing solos tonight.
• 31:00
  SPEAKER_00: Like I just don't feel comfortable setting someone like well, I go do it probably, but I just don't, you know, I just when you're running a team, you're you know, it's their safety and you're responsible for them.
• 31:17
  SPEAKER_00: So yeah, I mean there are instances.
• 31:19
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, we have to go with our gut feeling, that's what the paranormal is, you know, when you're investigating.
• 31:24
  SPEAKER_00: Um you jumped on the bucket list already.
• 31:27
  SPEAKER_00: Do you have a bucket list, please?
• 31:28
  SPEAKER_00: That you one I'll give you two.
• 31:31
  SPEAKER_00: You can pick two.
• 31:32
  SPEAKER_03: Okay, two.
• 31:34
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, oh gosh.
• 31:36
  SPEAKER_03: Okay, so my bucket list, because if you ask the girls in the group, everyone has a different bucket list, right?
• 31:43
  SPEAKER_03: So I've recently ticked off two of my bucket lists, which was Beechworth and Aradale Asylum.
• 31:48
  SPEAKER_03: So now I've got to create another bucket list.
• 31:51
  SPEAKER_03: But Waverly Hills is on one, is on mine.
• 31:57
  SPEAKER_03: I know like people talk about it, you know.
• 32:00
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, it's been done so many times, and rah dah dah dah da.
• 32:03
  SPEAKER_03: But it's always intrigued me since I was a kid.
• 32:06
  SPEAKER_03: Um, and the second one would be the Hellfire Club in England.
• 32:13
  SPEAKER_00: There you go.
• 32:13
  SPEAKER_00: There you go.
• 32:14
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, definitely Hellfire Club.
• 32:16
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I've never been, I've never been a Waverly, it's like two and a half hours south of me.
• 32:21
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, so that's that's my that's my list this year is a do that.
• 32:25
  SPEAKER_03: So and if you do, we will be watching because we watch, I watch anything to do with it.
• 32:32
  SPEAKER_03: I love it, but um they're like out overseas.
• 32:35
  SPEAKER_03: Like for me, they're two places I would love, love to get in.
• 32:39
  SPEAKER_03: There's other places in America, and like we do not have enough time for me to go through my bucket list of America because you guys are huge and you got so much that I'm just like take me everywhere, just let me live over there for like four years, and I want to do it all.
• 32:53
  SPEAKER_03: Um, but each of the girls have different um places, like there's also Lepp Castle in England, yeah, or Leap, depends how you want to say it.
• 33:03
  SPEAKER_03: Um, yeah, uh the Edinburgh Tunnels in Scotland, um Big Ben, the tower in England.
• 33:11
  SPEAKER_03: Um yeah, I know, right?
• 33:14
  SPEAKER_03: I'm just like, okay, guys, cool.
• 33:16
  SPEAKER_03: Um then like I recently come back from Singapore and I was telling the group about our old Shanggy Hospital, and they're like, we gotta go.
• 33:25
  SPEAKER_03: And I'm like, okay, so like you know, as things come up, we find out about different countries, and everyone's like, Oh, let's go.
• 33:33
  SPEAKER_03: And I'm like, Oh my god, yeah, we'll just go to the money tree out the backyard.
• 33:37
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, so yeah, yeah, exactly.
• 33:41
  SPEAKER_03: But all four of us had on our bucket list for Australia, Beechworth and Aradale.
• 33:46
  SPEAKER_03: So we got to do that, and we were so happy.
• 33:49
  SPEAKER_03: And if we're talking about Australia's bucket list, like that's overseas, Australia's bucket list is to do Port Arthur in Tasmania, that is definitely, definitely on the bucket list, and Willow Court Asylum in Tasmania, which we are fingers crossed, hoping above all hope that we get to do this year.
• 34:07
  SPEAKER_03: I've just got to have a chat and work some logistics out of who's available when, and you know, timing is perfection, so they're our bucket list, hopefully, to get done this year.
• 34:20
  SPEAKER_00: No, Lee Castle is like always one of my top ones I wanted to do, but I am I guess I have a problem, not a problem.
• 34:30
  SPEAKER_00: I love dark basements.
• 34:33
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, like for some reason they creep me out, so like how fire tunnels, you know, anything that's like I've always wanted the catacombs.
• 34:41
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, yeah, yeah.
• 34:43
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, I always tell people just I hate flashlights too, but give me a flashlight and a recorder, I'll go to the catacombs, just lock me down there.
• 34:53
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, probably crap, I'll probably crap myself, but you know, lock me down there.
• 34:58
  SPEAKER_03: Just don't get lost.
• 34:59
  SPEAKER_03: A lot of people get lost in that place.
• 35:01
  SPEAKER_00: Hey, um, yeah, Aaron wanna know when you guys are starting tours.
• 35:07
  SPEAKER_03: Well, look, that that is the hot topic at the moment, the very hot topic.
• 35:12
  SPEAKER_03: Um, we are hoping to get some tours happening this year.
• 35:17
  SPEAKER_03: Um, I have to obviously have chats with the locations owners because we don't just have owners over here, we have like committees and board members and um volunteers who run said locations.
• 35:31
  SPEAKER_03: So it's about reaching out and saying, Hey, do you mind if we do this?
• 35:35
  SPEAKER_03: So there will be some release this year.
• 35:38
  SPEAKER_03: I'll be releasing them.
• 35:39
  SPEAKER_03: I'll I'll launch it on our social media and things, and I'll also on our website.
• 35:44
  SPEAKER_03: Um, so I've just got to have a few more conversations because as we are having holidays, so are these locations.
• 35:52
  SPEAKER_03: So I probably won't be able to get anything out till maybe late January or February at this stage because it just depends when they all come back.
• 36:01
  SPEAKER_03: Some people are back late Jan, some are not till February.
• 36:05
  SPEAKER_03: But keep an eye out on the socials as soon as we organize, it will it will be on there.
• 36:12
  SPEAKER_00: Another person asked equipment-wise, like what's your go-to equipment?
• 36:19
  SPEAKER_03: For me, give me a K2, a torch, a cat ball, and a REM pod, and I am home.
• 36:26
  SPEAKER_03: Um, I do like the spirit box as well, but um yeah, they're like my go-to's, um, but we've got like heaps, like we've got like trip wires, we've got sensor cars because I thought it would be hilarious to get the girls a Barbie car that's censored.
• 36:43
  SPEAKER_03: So it's literally this little Jeep of a Barbie, and like if the spirit goes to grab it, it's obviously got the sensor and it moves.
• 36:50
  SPEAKER_03: So I thought that was funny.
• 36:51
  SPEAKER_03: Um, we've got a doll's head as a REM pod that I named Frankie that the girls hate, which actually got broken on one of our investigations.
• 36:59
  SPEAKER_03: Like, literally, the spirit went up, just grabbed it and cracked, cracked the head off the plate.
• 37:04
  SPEAKER_03: So I was like, okay, that's great.
• 37:06
  SPEAKER_03: Um, need to fix that.
• 37:07
  SPEAKER_03: But um, yeah, I always tell everyone, even like your digital, you know, your voice recorders, you know, that is always in everyone all four of us or all five five of us have one of these in our pockets.
• 37:22
  SPEAKER_03: Um K2, because like I like to know if there's electrical around, is that interfering with what I'm getting?
• 37:29
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 37:29
  SPEAKER_03: Um, yeah, so K2 cat ball, but on a stand, because if it moves, I want to know it's been pushed off said stand and thrown.
• 37:38
  SPEAKER_03: Um, but you don't need to be paying thousands and yourself.
• 37:42
  SPEAKER_03: You're your biggest asset on an investigation.
• 37:45
  SPEAKER_03: If something doesn't feel right, go with it.
• 37:47
  SPEAKER_03: If something feels right, if it's telling you to go, you're getting pulled into a location or pulled into a room, or you know, you want to lay on a morgue table, which I always do.
• 37:57
  SPEAKER_03: Um, do it, follow your own gut because you're your biggest instrument.
• 38:01
  SPEAKER_03: So we rely a lot on our intuition.
• 38:05
  SPEAKER_03: Um, but we do have all you know the bells and whistles that everyone has, but hey, you can't have enough of it, right?
• 38:11
  SPEAKER_03: And I have told my part of this, just you know, I I'm I need this.
• 38:15
  SPEAKER_03: She's like, no, is it a need or is it a want?
• 38:18
  SPEAKER_03: And I'm like, no, it's a need.
• 38:24
  SPEAKER_00: Talking about going with your instincts, have you ever had you felt like a spirit like steer you the wrong way to like get you away from them?
• 38:33
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, yeah.
• 38:35
  SPEAKER_03: Aradale, Aradale.
• 38:38
  SPEAKER_03: I'm a very calm person, as you can tell.
• 38:40
  SPEAKER_03: I like to have a joke and a laugh, but um I got to the gates of Aradale, and I was just so angry, like I was PO'd more than you could ever imagine, and I was shaking with anger.
• 38:57
  SPEAKER_03: Um and we had to go to this hexagon building where they ran art therapy in Aradale, and as the tour guide is explaining, I've just walked off.
• 39:09
  SPEAKER_03: I'm like, see, I've checked out that conversation's done.
• 39:13
  SPEAKER_03: So I've walked off to the other side of the building, and everyone's like, What are you doing?
• 39:18
  SPEAKER_03: And I'm like, I just need to be here, like here.
• 39:22
  SPEAKER_03: Don't come near me, don't talk to me.
• 39:25
  SPEAKER_03: And the group was like, That's not her.
• 39:29
  SPEAKER_03: Um, and then yeah, like I snapped out of it 30 minutes later, and all it took was Ash in the group coming over, putting a hand on my shoulder and going, T, this isn't you, what's wrong?
• 39:40
  SPEAKER_03: And I snapped out of it.
• 39:42
  SPEAKER_03: But literally, it was like I was being led by my, well, not my emotions, like someone's anger.
• 39:48
  SPEAKER_03: It was just like, I don't want to be here, I want to be here, um, and it also happened um in Parramatta Jail, old Parramatta Jail, that I went on a tour with Appy.
• 40:00
  SPEAKER_03: Um, and Appia, another paranormal group based in New South Wales, and we were going through the old hospital ward.
• 40:09
  SPEAKER_03: But instead of me going through the hospital ward, I walked around the outside of the building and met them at the other end, and they're like, Weren't you behind us?
• 40:19
  SPEAKER_03: And I'm like, Yeah, I thought so, but like I thought you took me here.
• 40:23
  SPEAKER_03: So I thought I heard someone go, come this way.
• 40:26
  SPEAKER_03: So I've gone, oh, okay.
• 40:27
  SPEAKER_03: And I've turned around and out the hospital door and went around the building.
• 40:31
  SPEAKER_03: So like that's tripped me out.
• 40:33
  SPEAKER_03: Like a few times that's happened, and I'm like, Oh, but um, you know, or you get like what a mimic who's like, oh, come like without talking, they're like, and it looks like your tour guide, so you're like, Oh, okay, we're we've got to go this way, and you start following this person, but your guide's over that way, so you're like, What what hey, what's going on here?
• 40:53
  SPEAKER_03: So has happened.
• 40:56
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, that and that's tricky because is it a good spirit trying to steer steer you away from a bad spirit?
• 41:02
  SPEAKER_00: Like, you shouldn't go in there, so come this way, or is it a bad spirit telling you follow me, I got something for you?
• 41:10
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, yeah.
• 41:11
  SPEAKER_03: Well, that's that's it.
• 41:12
  SPEAKER_03: Like, luckily, all the times I've experienced being told get away from like or come this way, it's been relatively good.
• 41:20
  SPEAKER_03: Um, because yeah, Paramount of Gel is where I heard my first growl ever, and it was in my face, and it was so hot and stunk.
• 41:28
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, smell of rotten egg, it's horrendous.
• 41:31
  SPEAKER_03: Um, but I've I heard a growl in front of my face, and and then the next time where I got told, don't go through here, go this way, was the same place I got growl.
• 41:41
  SPEAKER_03: So it must have I'm I'm putting it down to someone going, let's not and say we did.
• 41:48
  SPEAKER_03: So yeah.
• 41:50
  SPEAKER_03: Well, what's funny is the the weirdest EVP I'd say I've ever got off a piece of equipment was um our uh the hunting, the like the oh, I've gone blank.
• 42:06
  SPEAKER_03: The hunting cameras, you know, the ones you strap to trees?
• 42:09
  SPEAKER_03: We we have them set up as well as GoPros and and just video cameras.
• 42:13
  SPEAKER_03: We've got them set up so that if it gets triggered, there's a photo.
• 42:17
  SPEAKER_03: And I've actually got like an EVP on that where it's triggered and it's started recording a video, and you can clearly hear like spirit talking in it over us talking, and I was like, I've never had that on these ever.
• 42:32
  SPEAKER_03: And that happened at the School of Arts that we investigate regularly, like we've investigated that twice a year, so that's really yeah, that's really cool.
• 42:40
  SPEAKER_03: But I've I've heard it happening a lot, like you're not the first person who said, like our video recorder is picking or our video camera is picking up a lot more than our digital voice recorder.
• 42:51
  SPEAKER_03: You're asking them questions.
• 42:52
  SPEAKER_03: The funniest time I've ever had is I was asking questions like at one of our locations, and um, this was an old council chamber, and I'm just like asking questions and I'm firing them off, and and then I just get uh and I've like I heard the ugly and I was like, shut up, and I was like, I was like, okay then.
• 43:14
  SPEAKER_03: Um Julie noted, so we tried different experiments instead, but it's just I I find humor in it as well because like they're not afraid to let you know how they're feeling sometimes, and it cacks me up.
• 43:29
  SPEAKER_00: Uh, what do we have?
• 43:30
  SPEAKER_00: Aaron asks, have you ever had and followed home or felt an entity in your own home?
• 43:38
  SPEAKER_03: I do have entities in my own home that didn't follow me.
• 43:44
  SPEAKER_03: Uh, we brought a home that was built in the early 80s, wasn't it?
• 43:52
  SPEAKER_03: 60s.
• 43:53
  SPEAKER_03: Just had to check with my partner because I didn't pay attention that.
• 43:56
  SPEAKER_03: So built early in the early 60s, and we renovated this home from top to bottom.
• 44:02
  SPEAKER_03: Basically, it could have been a teardown and rebuild, but anyway.
• 44:06
  SPEAKER_03: Um, after renovating, I started to notice someone sort of flicking around the rooms, and I just ignored it because I'm like, whatever.
• 44:15
  SPEAKER_03: I'm so used to it from a kid, whatever.
• 44:18
  SPEAKER_03: Um, and um, for some reason we've called him Harry, and he's just mischievous.
• 44:24
  SPEAKER_03: Like, he'll turn my fan on, he'll turn a light on, he even turns my PlayStation on, he knows my daily routine.
• 44:30
  SPEAKER_03: Um, so like, and my mum passed away uh a week before I turned 40 last year, um, in June.
• 44:40
  SPEAKER_03: Uh, and she's definitely, definitely around.
• 44:43
  SPEAKER_03: So I just it's something I've lived with my whole life, and you know, whatever.
• 44:49
  SPEAKER_03: They're there, they're there.
• 44:50
  SPEAKER_03: As long as they're not nasty or want to cause harm to anyone, I'm just like, well, you do you boo.
• 44:56
  SPEAKER_03: Like, I'm not gonna kick you out, you know.
• 44:58
  SPEAKER_03: Um, have I brought anything home from an investigation?
• 45:02
  SPEAKER_03: Uh, not in a long time because we have uh so when we finish an investigation, whether it is we're going on someone else's tour, we're doing our own tour, we're doing a private house, or we're going just out to locations to find, you know, going to a convict built bridge, whatever.
• 45:20
  SPEAKER_03: When we are finished, we actually close it down.
• 45:23
  SPEAKER_03: So we have a closed down procedure that we do now.
• 45:27
  SPEAKER_03: Um, but I have stupidly, and I will admit I make mistakes, I'm human.
• 45:32
  SPEAKER_03: Um, I went to a location that was quite haunted, it was an old courthouse, um, and I did not do my closing down.
• 45:42
  SPEAKER_03: So I usually say a spill, you know, like you won't follow me home, communication severed, I'd like to thank my ancestors, blah, blah.
• 45:49
  SPEAKER_03: It's this whole big thing.
• 45:51
  SPEAKER_03: I didn't do it that night, and I brought something home that when I would leave the house and my partner would be home by herself, would call out to my partner and be like, Hey babe.
• 46:05
  SPEAKER_03: And she'd call me and be like, You home?
• 46:07
  SPEAKER_03: And I'm like, No.
• 46:08
  SPEAKER_03: I'm you know, an hour and a half away from our house, and she's like, You called my name, and our dogs reacted thinking you were home.
• 46:15
  SPEAKER_03: They started barking and running to the back door.
• 46:18
  SPEAKER_03: So I have brought something home.
• 46:20
  SPEAKER_03: I had to get rid of it because I was the one who brought it in.
• 46:23
  SPEAKER_03: I'm the one to get it out.
• 46:25
  SPEAKER_03: Um, but I haven't in a long time.
• 46:27
  SPEAKER_03: But accidents happen, you're human, human error.
• 46:31
  SPEAKER_03: Um, but I'm very precautious now.
• 46:33
  SPEAKER_03: So, you know, I open up and I close.
• 46:37
  SPEAKER_03: So it's something that is part of NSP now that we must do at the end of any kind of investigation.