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Why is Donald Trump so furious with Spain and Pedro Sanchez · INSIGHT TODAY

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  Speaker 1: Few European leaders divide opinion quite like Spain's Prime Minister
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  Speaker 1: Pedro Sanchez. Abroad, he's praised for challenging Donald Trump.
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  Speaker 2: The people of Spain are bendetic. The leadership like you.
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  Speaker 2: The leadership not so.
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  Speaker 1: Good, speaking out on Gaza and championing progressive causes.
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  Speaker 2: The Spanish government has decided to go one step further
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  Speaker 2: and to put in place, with immediate effect, nine additional
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  Speaker 2: measures to stop the genocide in Gaza, to prosecute those
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  Speaker 2: responsible for genocide, and to support the Palestinian population at home.
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  Speaker 1: However, the picture is very different.
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  Speaker 3: Is taking important stances, and those stances are sure broadly
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  Speaker 3: in Spain.
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  Speaker 4: But then he's also very unpopular.
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  Speaker 1: That's Maria Ramireev, managing editor of the Spanish news outlet
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  Speaker 1: Eldiario dot E s. She joined us to explain why
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  Speaker 1: Sanchez's international profile continues to rise even as he battles
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  Speaker 1: corruption scandals, political gridlock and deep polarization at home. So
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  Speaker 1: how did one of Europe's most prominent leaders become such
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  Speaker 1: a contested figure in his own country?
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  Speaker 3: And he's quite good in terms of presentation. He gives
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  Speaker 3: good speeches and definitely is good articulating policies, and I
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  Speaker 3: think that's one of the aspects that probably is resonating
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  Speaker 3: more outside Spain, because he's quite good making arguments on
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  Speaker 3: big issues like Gaza, Trump migration.
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  Speaker 4: And that has been one of the keys I guess
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  Speaker 4: of his success also early on in Spain.
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  Speaker 1: So why do people praise him. There's been feuding with
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  Speaker 1: Donald Trump.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, absolute, it is absolutely unacceptable that those leaders who
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  Speaker 2: are incapable of fulfilling that mission use the smoke of
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  Speaker 2: war to hide their failure and coincidentally fill up the
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  Speaker 2: pockets of the few of We're going to cut off
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  Speaker 2: well trade with Spain.
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  Speaker 4: We don't want anything to do with Spain.
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  Speaker 3: Petro Center has or had for a while this thing
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  Speaker 3: about not mentioning Trump by name, so he usually refers
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  Speaker 3: to Trump as president of the United States the United States.
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  Speaker 3: So there's a bit of posturing in a way in
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  Speaker 3: that aspect. Obviously, it's quite easy to be outspoken against
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  Speaker 3: Trump in a country where an overwhelming majority of the
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  Speaker 3: population of the voters have a critical negative opinion of
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  Speaker 3: percent Trump. But it's also true that what Trump stands
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  Speaker 3: for is very different than the Pedro scientie's ideas.
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  Speaker 1: And with immigration too, such as has taken a pro
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  Speaker 1: immigration position, saying it's good for spain society and economy.
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  Speaker 2: Almost half of GDP growth since twenty twenty two can
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  Speaker 2: be a tributed to the arrival of migrants, and around
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  Speaker 2: twenty percent of per capita GDP growth in recent years
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  Speaker 2: is linked to their contributions. So when we integrate as
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  Speaker 2: a country, what we're doing is moving forward, growing and
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  Speaker 2: progressing together.
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  Speaker 4: Europe is put at risk.
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  Speaker 2: So I think it's important that mister Sanchez he needs
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  Speaker 2: to face the reality.
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  Speaker 4: Don't play with Europe. The EPP group.
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  Speaker 2: Will not stand for it, thank you.
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  Speaker 3: In the case of Gatha, also, there is a long
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  Speaker 3: standing tradition in Spanish politics to be quite pro Palestinian,
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  Speaker 3: even before this war. So it is also an issue
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  Speaker 3: that particularly on the left, has resonated for over the years.
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  Speaker 1: Israel has rejected Sanchez's accusations, saying Spain's government has an
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  Speaker 1: anti Israel bias. Now, the Spanish Prime Minister's stances on
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  Speaker 1: many issues have received praise from me any across the world,
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  Speaker 1: but what about at home?
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  Speaker 3: I think in regarding the international issues, he has quite
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  Speaker 3: big of support in Spain because those views are sure
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  Speaker 3: broadly in the country, they might be critical of him,
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  Speaker 3: but it's mostly for other issues, for domestic issues, for corruption,
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  Speaker 3: for other issues that.
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  Speaker 4: Are more internal of Spain.
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  Speaker 3: But in his international stances he has broad support because
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  Speaker 3: these are views that are sure broadly even among conservative
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  Speaker 3: voters that may never vote for him, but they sort
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  Speaker 3: of agree with him in some of these stances. Some
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  Speaker 3: of its critics in the case of international issues.
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  Speaker 4: May point to that as well.
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  Speaker 3: It's big words, it's nice worst, but then there is
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  Speaker 3: not really different in action compared to other European leaders.
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  Speaker 1: Did you hear that Maria mentioned corruption? So while Pedro
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  Speaker 1: Sanchev appears to have broader support for his foreign policies,
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  Speaker 1: within Spain, he's been hit by the fallout of corruption
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  Speaker 1: investigations involving his wife and brother, along with former members
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  Speaker 1: of his party.
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  Speaker 3: I guess it's usually missed how much in trouble he
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  Speaker 3: is because of internalitius, particularly corruption in his party surrounding
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  Speaker 3: his family.
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  Speaker 4: There are different cases.
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  Speaker 3: Some are very serious or seem very serious, some may
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  Speaker 3: not be as freilious, and many are now in the court,
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  Speaker 3: so it's hard to tell what's going to happen with
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  Speaker 3: some of them.
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  Speaker 1: It's good to just take a moment to get some context,
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  Speaker 1: which helps us better understand the environment Sanchev is governing in.
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  Speaker 1: At home, Spain faces persistent social and political polarization, with
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  Speaker 1: tensions over identity, governance, and regional auto contributing to what
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  Speaker 1: Maria Amdev describes as a deeply divided national discourse.
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  Speaker 3: Actually, if you look at like the poles around polarization,
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  Speaker 3: particularly these like effective pizations, so people really feeling very
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  Speaker 3: strongly about the political points of view, is basically Spain
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  Speaker 3: and the US. You look at the polls these two
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  Speaker 3: countries compared in world or they much well in many
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  Speaker 3: issues in terms of extremes, as in any country, is
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  Speaker 3: mostly the more politicized part of the population is not
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  Speaker 3: like everyone is like so engaged in politics anyway. So
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  Speaker 3: I think it's more like the general these taste of politics,
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  Speaker 3: and that's becoming increasingly a problem for anyone trying to
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  Speaker 3: govern the country.
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  Speaker 4: Uh and also whoever is in allment suffer the most.
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  Speaker 1: But what are the main issues affecting Spaniards? Economics plays
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  Speaker 1: a central role in those deep divisions.
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  Speaker 3: The paradox about Spain is that the country is really
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  Speaker 3: doing well. Is the country that grows more in Europe.
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  Speaker 3: In the western world, I say, in the more developed nations.
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  Speaker 3: Unemployment is also low for Spanish standards, and public transport
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  Speaker 3: were really I would say, well, Spaniards will probably complain,
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  Speaker 3: but I would say better than in other countries in Europe.
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  Speaker 4: So if you look.
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  Speaker 3: At the actually at the facts of the economy, and
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  Speaker 3: the living standards are way much better than in other countries.
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  Speaker 4: But still there is a general satisfaction.
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  Speaker 3: And of course, particularly housing is such a salient issue.
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  Speaker 3: Even though the economy is doing really well and employment
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  Speaker 3: is doing better than it used to, but housing, especially
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  Speaker 3: in cities, is increasingly a big problem.
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  Speaker 4: And migration is well.
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  Speaker 3: There are some debate about that, but actually it's the
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  Speaker 3: main force, or one of the main forces of growth
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  Speaker 3: in Spain.
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  Speaker 1: All right. So Spain is suffering from some of the
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  Speaker 1: big issues facing many countries around the world, housing and
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  Speaker 1: the cost of living. As Maria mentioned, migration is causing
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  Speaker 1: much debate too. More than one million undocumented immigrants in
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  Speaker 1: Spain have applied to legalize their status through a Spanish
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  Speaker 1: government program, a divisive decision by Sanchez and one of
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  Speaker 1: plenty of issues he's come under fire for on the
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  Speaker 1: home front, so are his chances of being at the
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  Speaker 1: helm of the Spanish government numbers.
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  Speaker 4: It seems that he's running maneuver definitely. But the thing
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  Speaker 4: is that also, as you said, the leader.
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  Speaker 3: Of the main opposition parties quite unpopular and in Spain
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  Speaker 3: there is really part of the population who fear a
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  Speaker 3: coalition government with the fire ride, so that might play
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  Speaker 3: in favor of Pedro Scientjet. The problem is that also
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  Speaker 3: like other parties on the left of the Socialist Party,
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  Speaker 3: are not doing very well, so with Pedrocichet there is
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  Speaker 3: room for surprise. But this is really getting increasingly difficult
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  Speaker 3: for him, and particularly the corruption scandals have been a
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  Speaker 3: big problem for his party. He's deny in the case
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  Speaker 3: particularly his wife and his brother, any wrongdoing.
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  Speaker 4: They are denying any wrongdoing, and if there is maybe.
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  Speaker 3: One of those processes are that are now in court
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  Speaker 3: go in favor of any of the them, of the
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  Speaker 3: brother or the wife, that might be also something good
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  Speaker 3: for the electoral chances of Pedro Sanchet in the next
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  Speaker 3: year election.
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  Speaker 4: Supposedly it's going to be next year, but it's going
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  Speaker 4: to be hard.
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  Speaker 1: All right, So twenty twenty seven could potentially be Sanchez's
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  Speaker 1: make or break year in Spain. But even if he
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  Speaker 1: loses the election, we might not see the last of them.
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  Speaker 4: And yeah, I mean he's still young.
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  Speaker 3: He's one of the few, or if not the only
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  Speaker 3: prime minister from Spain who speaks English and speaks good English,
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  Speaker 3: so has definitely an international presence, particularly in the last.
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  Speaker 4: Year, so one would think that he is a good fit.
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  Speaker 3: But he really loves politics in Spain, so if he
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  Speaker 3: has a fighting chance, he would definitely take it home.
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  Speaker 3: If not, maybe he can start to think about the
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  Speaker 3: rest of his life.
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  Speaker 1: Well. Pedro Sanchez makes headlines on the world stage, it's
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  Speaker 1: the battle for po pblic trust at home that could
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  Speaker 1: decide his political future. What do you think. Admired abroad
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  Speaker 1: contested at home, can his international stature survive domestic turmoil.
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  Speaker 1: I'm Pablo Folilias. Thanks for rotching