Latest / 360 with Katie Woolf / Minister for Health Natasha Fyles on 360 with Katie Woolf
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Now joining me on the line is the Health Minister
- 0:02Speaker 1: Natasha Files.
- 0:03Speaker 2: Good morning, Good morning Katie, Good morning listening.
- 0:06Speaker 1: Now, Minister, why did we first find out about this
- 0:09Speaker 1: positive COVID case in the Northern Territory well via Queensland media.
- 0:14Speaker 2: Oh, Katie, that was nothing deliberate. We were alerted yesterday
- 0:18Speaker 2: morning that there was a confirmed positive case of COVID
- 0:21Speaker 2: in a return traveler. There was another member of the
- 0:25Speaker 2: Legend's Liberit Assembly that was speaking to the media and
- 0:28Speaker 2: so I waited till they finished before I held my
- 0:31Speaker 2: press conference. But the secure NT press release was as
- 0:35Speaker 2: soon as all the information was confirmed and brought together,
- 0:37Speaker 2: that was sent out. So there certainly wasn't anything deliberate there.
- 0:43Speaker 2: We were trying to get that information out as quickly
- 0:45Speaker 2: as possible to territory.
- 0:46Speaker 1: I mean, were you a bit peeved though? Like the
- 0:48Speaker 1: reality of it is. I was reading an article out
- 0:50Speaker 1: on the Courier Mail of what the Queensland Chief Health
- 0:54Speaker 1: Officer was saying about Darwin and the Northern Territory being
- 0:57Speaker 1: implicated well before that press release came out from SECURINGT
- 1:02Speaker 1: So Katie.
- 1:02Speaker 2: In releasing the information, we wanted to make sure we
- 1:05Speaker 2: had everything to reassure territories that there was very minimal
- 1:07Speaker 2: risks to our community. So we needed to confirm the
- 1:10Speaker 2: number of as close in casual contacts and so we
- 1:14Speaker 2: were certainly getting all of that information and as I
- 1:16Speaker 2: just explained, it wasn't anything deliberate. The timing was the
- 1:20Speaker 2: statement was sent out on the website, that statement should
- 1:24Speaker 2: have gone out, and then not long after that I
- 1:27Speaker 2: spoke to media. So we certainly wanted territories to have
- 1:29Speaker 2: that information and as much as possible to reassure them.
- 1:33Speaker 2: We've had no community transmission in the territory and people
- 1:36Speaker 2: here of cases and Katie I get this, so it
- 1:39Speaker 2: feels like day in, day out, week in, week out,
- 1:41Speaker 2: of is there a case that we're going into lockdown
- 1:43Speaker 2: based on rumors that we wanted to have as much
- 1:45Speaker 2: information to reassure the community because it is concerning to
- 1:48Speaker 2: know that someone has tested positive and they were on
- 1:51Speaker 2: a flight, but we believe there's very minimal risk to
- 1:54Speaker 2: the community as that individual our system works. They went
- 1:57Speaker 2: straight from dal On International Airport to the Howard Springs
- 1:59Speaker 2: facility on.
- 2:00Speaker 1: Correct me if I'm wrong, though, did that flight arrive
- 2:02Speaker 1: on Friday night?
- 2:05Speaker 2: So the flight arrived on Friday night Saturday morning, Katie,
- 2:09Speaker 2: is my understanding early hours of the morning, the gentleman
- 2:11Speaker 2: went straight from down International Airport across to the Howard
- 2:14Speaker 2: Springs facility and then within the first twenty four hours
- 2:17Speaker 2: a test is taken. That test was processed through the
- 2:21Speaker 2: lab and as soon as we had a confirmed positive
- 2:24Speaker 2: case yesterday morning, we put that information out to the community.
- 2:29Speaker 1: When were those close contacts notified? Though, And the concern
- 2:32Speaker 1: that's been raised with us obviously on the show yesterday
- 2:35Speaker 1: is it some are worried that those close contacts within
- 2:38Speaker 1: out in the community.
- 2:40Speaker 2: So, Katie, the way the virus works and the way
- 2:43Speaker 2: our system works is if we have a positive case
- 2:45Speaker 2: and we need to make sure it's a genuine positive case,
- 2:47Speaker 2: we do get cases where it's not a genuine case.
- 2:52Speaker 2: So once it's confirmed that there's a positive case, CDC
- 2:55Speaker 2: then work with the individual to identify who would have
- 2:58Speaker 2: been in close and casual contact. So everyone on that
- 3:01Speaker 2: plane should have had a mask on. The individual had
- 3:03Speaker 2: a mask on, but they got the manifestof Jetstar and
- 3:07Speaker 2: identified the people in the roads surrounding them, so there's
- 3:10Speaker 2: very minimal risk. But this is the system working, so
- 3:13Speaker 2: the person had gone straight to Howard Springs. We have
- 3:16Speaker 2: seen very minimal transmission of the virus on aircraft, and
- 3:20Speaker 2: as I said, we also have people wearing masks in
- 3:23Speaker 2: those facilities, So I can absolutely understand the concern of
- 3:26Speaker 2: people that may have come in contact. It's quite a
- 3:28Speaker 2: scary thought that you know you've perhaps crossed paths with someone.
- 3:32Speaker 2: But the system has worked in this case.
- 3:34Speaker 1: So right now, obviously there were those twenty people seated
- 3:37Speaker 1: around him on that flight and four airport stuff. They've
- 3:40Speaker 1: all been contacted and are in quarantine. Now when are
- 3:44Speaker 1: you anticipating the results from both them and also those
- 3:47Speaker 1: casual contacts.
- 3:49Speaker 2: And to come back to the point, so Rikati, that
- 3:50Speaker 2: you were just asking me this individual in terms of
- 3:55Speaker 2: being infectious, he had that mask on. It has to
- 3:57Speaker 2: be a period of time to see whether he's trained
- 4:00Speaker 2: admitted that to other people. So the close contacts and
- 4:04Speaker 2: the casual contacts I understand will be tested today. We
- 4:07Speaker 2: needed to wait seventy two hours to see if there
- 4:09Speaker 2: was any transmission. We don't want to test people yesterday
- 4:12Speaker 2: say nope, everyone's all clear in this situation, and then
- 4:15Speaker 2: it was too early for that testing to take place.
- 4:18Speaker 2: So the seventy two hour periods from exposure will ensure
- 4:21Speaker 2: we get accurate test results and some individuals will need
- 4:25Speaker 2: to remain in isolation till the negative tests. Others will
- 4:28Speaker 2: need to remain in contact, in isolation, sorry, in quarantine
- 4:32Speaker 2: for the fourteen days. But our health teams and so are.
- 4:34Speaker 1: You confident You're confident at this point in time, did
- 4:37Speaker 1: all of those casual contacts, all of those close contacts
- 4:40Speaker 1: you're confident that they will return negative results?
- 4:44Speaker 2: So, Katie, I mean, I can't preempt that. The advice
- 4:46Speaker 2: I've got is that everyone was wearing masks. The risk
- 4:49Speaker 2: of transmission is very, very low, but we're working through that.
- 4:53Speaker 2: And the other work that's continuing, Katie, is the contact
- 4:55Speaker 2: tracing work. So we've identified those close contacts based off
- 4:59Speaker 2: the flight and some interactions at the airport and casual contacts.
- 5:02Speaker 2: And as we've seen in this COVID in contact tracing
- 5:06Speaker 2: space across Australia and the world, there is a chance
- 5:09Speaker 2: that you know, the close contacts could be more or
- 5:11Speaker 2: could be less. They're reviewing CCTV footage, they're working through
- 5:15Speaker 2: those details. So we have identified everyone on that slide
- 5:19Speaker 2: as a casual contact and the people seated around him
- 5:22Speaker 2: as close contacts, and that work has continued over the
- 5:25Speaker 2: last twenty four hours.
- 5:27Speaker 1: All right, now, we do know that the Maderna vaccine
- 5:29Speaker 1: is set to roll out into the Northern Territory. What
- 5:32Speaker 1: age group is it going to be available to?
- 5:35Speaker 2: So, Katie, Maderna will be available for everyone age twelve
- 5:38Speaker 2: and above in the territory.
- 5:39Speaker 1: Okay, so everyone over the age of twelve. I've just
- 5:41Speaker 1: had a message come through from Mark. He was in
- 5:43Speaker 1: Howard Springs and was wondering if you could if I
- 5:46Speaker 1: could ask why the vaccines are not being administered out
- 5:49Speaker 1: there at Howard Springs as well. Would that be a
- 5:51Speaker 1: good way to get people vaccinated.
- 5:54Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm certainly happy to ask Kelse if it's possible.
- 5:56Speaker 2: I think that some of the information provided to date
- 5:59Speaker 2: has been if people are in a quarantine facility, there's
- 6:02Speaker 2: a potential that they could get the illness, or they
- 6:04Speaker 2: could be infected with the illness, and we don't want
- 6:06Speaker 2: to give them the vaccine potentially and then have them
- 6:10Speaker 2: become unwell. That's when I've asked that question before. But
- 6:12Speaker 2: I'm more than happy as people conclude their fourteen days
- 6:15Speaker 2: if it makes it easier for them, would it be
- 6:17Speaker 2: clinically faced to provide them with the vaccine? You know,
- 6:20Speaker 2: That's what the whole point of rolling this out in
- 6:21Speaker 2: the philacies is is to make it easier for people
- 6:24Speaker 2: to access the vaccine as easy as possible, because it's
- 6:26Speaker 2: our best tool in fighting COVID nineteen.
- 6:29Speaker 1: Now we know as well that the vaccine passport is
- 6:32Speaker 1: going to be something which is going to be critical
- 6:35Speaker 1: I think in terms of us reaching that eighty percent.
- 6:38Speaker 1: But how exactly are they going to work? I mean,
- 6:40Speaker 1: this is a big point of contention at the moment
- 6:42Speaker 1: that a lot of businesses and a lot of regular
- 6:45Speaker 1: Territorians are wondering about.
- 6:48Speaker 2: Yeah, o Kadian. It's pushing through to the next phase
- 6:51Speaker 2: of the virus and trying to get life back to
- 6:52Speaker 2: normal as quickly as possible, and the Chief Minister outlines
- 6:56Speaker 2: our plan last week and there's certainly plenty of questions
- 6:59Speaker 2: around it. The way we see the vaccine passport working is
- 7:02Speaker 2: similar to the check in app. When people attend a venue,
- 7:06Speaker 2: it will link through and it'll show their vaccine status
- 7:09Speaker 2: on a screen. So it'll either be I think the
- 7:12Speaker 2: talk is a purple screen if you're vaccinated, and so
- 7:14Speaker 2: people can easily present that and it's based in an
- 7:17Speaker 2: app so that the information is always up to date.
- 7:20Speaker 2: And so we need to start to think about COVID
- 7:22Speaker 2: just as we think about no smoking, or we think
- 7:24Speaker 2: about fire safety or troop hazards and water on floors.
- 7:28Speaker 2: Coronavirus will be an ever present threat in our community,
- 7:32Speaker 2: and what steps do we take to keep our community
- 7:34Speaker 2: safe when we're out and about.
- 7:36Speaker 1: Minister A few messages coming through another one here, Katie,
- 7:39Speaker 1: are you able to ask are those twenty four close
- 7:41Speaker 1: contacts all in quarantine at Howard Springs now or are
- 7:44Speaker 1: they in their homes?
- 7:46Speaker 2: So, Katie, my understanding is that they were all either
- 7:49Speaker 2: in Howard Springs or heading to Howard Springs. They were
- 7:51Speaker 2: working through logistics yesterday to get people to the facility.
- 7:54Speaker 1: Do they have to pay for themselves if they're in
- 7:56Speaker 1: a situation like that where they've been an unforcedure situation
- 8:00Speaker 1: where they've sat next to or sat near someone that
- 8:02Speaker 1: has COVID.
- 8:04Speaker 2: Katie, minunderstanding off previous situations like this is no, they
- 8:08Speaker 2: don't have to pay that fee to go into the
- 8:10Speaker 2: quarantine facility because they're doing their part to keep our
- 8:13Speaker 2: community safe, and that's part of our skilled management structure.
- 8:17Speaker 2: Is that quarantine if we know that there've been a
- 8:19Speaker 2: close contact of a positive case.
- 8:21Speaker 1: Okay, I want to move forward and talk a little
- 8:22Speaker 1: bit more about our health system. We know that there's
- 8:25Speaker 1: been massive concern over recent weeks. We've been contacted on
- 8:28Speaker 1: the weekend from listeners saying that a loved one had
- 8:32Speaker 1: been sent home still unwell and quite seriously unwell detail
- 8:36Speaker 1: which I won't go into on air, but very unwell
- 8:40Speaker 1: and sent home from the emergency department because there were
- 8:43Speaker 1: no beds now waiting to try and get in to
- 8:48Speaker 1: theater for a procedure. Are we back in a code
- 8:51Speaker 1: yellow situation at the moment or is this just normal
- 8:54Speaker 1: stuff at our hospital at the moment.
- 8:58Speaker 2: So, Katie, I can't speak to that case because I
- 9:00Speaker 2: don't know all the facts. But what I can reassure
- 9:02Speaker 2: territories is our doctors, our nurses, our hospital stuff make
- 9:06Speaker 2: clinical decisions with a lot of expertise and evidence each
- 9:09Speaker 2: and every day. So I can't speak to the specifics
- 9:12Speaker 2: of that case. I do remind people, and I was
- 9:14Speaker 2: mentioning this on Friday, kat If you are at the
- 9:18Speaker 2: hospital and you don't believe you're receiving the care that
- 9:21Speaker 2: you should be, you can ask to speak to the
- 9:23Speaker 2: patient advocate and they will help you. Talk to the
- 9:25Speaker 2: clinicians and everyone understand the situation at hand. Equally, if
- 9:29Speaker 2: someone has less the facility and they feel their condition
- 9:32Speaker 2: has deteriorated, go back to ED or go to your GP.
- 9:35Speaker 2: But in terms of the hospital, we recognize that there's
- 9:38Speaker 2: been pressures on wheyds are in hospital and we're taking
- 9:40Speaker 2: action to ease that.
- 9:41Speaker 1: But so not back in a code yellow at this
- 9:43Speaker 1: point in time.
- 9:45Speaker 2: So, Ktie, what a code yellow is it? And identify?
- 9:48Speaker 1: So we've spoken about that before, But are we back
- 9:50Speaker 1: in a code yellow at this point in time?
- 9:51Speaker 2: No, Katie, I've already answered that for you just a
- 9:54Speaker 2: couple of minutes ago.
- 9:55Speaker 1: No, okay, So we are obviously still under some pretty
- 9:59Speaker 1: extreme though inside our emergency department if we've got patients
- 10:03Speaker 1: being turned away or send home because there's not access
- 10:06Speaker 1: for them into a ward or they're not able to
- 10:08Speaker 1: get into the theater for a procedure. I know that
- 10:11Speaker 1: you've spoken about over well the last couple of days,
- 10:14Speaker 1: and you're on the show obviously on Friday talking about
- 10:17Speaker 1: those additional aged care beds, But how quickly are we
- 10:21Speaker 1: looking like having something like that actually open up and
- 10:24Speaker 1: these beds become accessible, Katie.
- 10:27Speaker 2: I just need to point something out. I haven't been
- 10:28Speaker 2: advised that there's capacity issues at the hospital. We know
- 10:32Speaker 2: it's an extremely busy hospital where if people need urgent
- 10:34Speaker 2: medical care they should either cultural zero or contact their GP.
- 10:38Speaker 2: In terms of the hospital, our staff manage the facility
- 10:41Speaker 2: we've got and the bed numbers. In terms of the
- 10:44Speaker 2: age care, we know that on average there's about fifty
- 10:47Speaker 2: patients in our hospital Palmerston and Rozalen Hospital system that
- 10:51Speaker 2: require an age care beds. So the commonwealths have responsibility
- 10:55Speaker 2: for this, but we've seen over many years where they
- 10:57Speaker 2: allocate provisional beds but the providers don't end up building
- 11:00Speaker 2: those beds and bringing them online. So the Northern Territory
- 11:03Speaker 2: government has fitted and been successful in being provisionally awarded
- 11:07Speaker 2: sixty beds and this will also include a dementia ward.
- 11:10Speaker 2: So we're very committed to working with the Commonwealth to
- 11:13Speaker 2: provide appropriate age care for territory, but also is that
- 11:16Speaker 2: burden on our hospital system and will work as quickly
- 11:19Speaker 2: as we can to deliver that.
- 11:20Speaker 1: So where are they going to be located?
- 11:23Speaker 2: The kd that is underway in terms of consultation, investigation
- 11:27Speaker 2: on what would be the best location, what would be
- 11:30Speaker 2: the best model of delivery for that, and will continue
- 11:33Speaker 2: to update the community as we make decisions. But we
- 11:36Speaker 2: got this sixty beds funded about four weeks ago.
- 11:38Speaker 1: But so four weeks ago sixty beds, I mean, realistically,
- 11:42Speaker 1: how soon are they going to become operational?
- 11:45Speaker 2: The kd dout is an important point. I think realistically
- 11:48Speaker 2: it will take a couple of years. But I want
- 11:50Speaker 2: to assure the community we're working in earnest We're also
- 11:52Speaker 2: working in the mental health space. And that latest round
- 11:55Speaker 2: of age care approvals from the Commonwealth also saw funding
- 11:59Speaker 2: to some existing age care providers for infrastructure. So there
- 12:02Speaker 2: is action in this space from both levels of government.
- 12:04Speaker 1: But so still a couple of years away. I mean
- 12:07Speaker 1: that is a long time for what for those families
- 12:10Speaker 1: that are waiting for a space, for an age care
- 12:14Speaker 1: space for a loved one, what do we do in
- 12:17Speaker 1: the meantime?
- 12:19Speaker 2: To Katie, as I just explained, this is something that
- 12:22Speaker 2: the process is that people bid on those beds. We've
- 12:24Speaker 2: seen plenty of allocation of beds over the years, but
- 12:27Speaker 2: we're not seeing those beds that are provisionally funded coming
- 12:30Speaker 2: through to being built. So the government has taken this
- 12:33Speaker 2: matter into our hands and we're working as efficiently as
- 12:35Speaker 2: we can off the back of being funded for those
- 12:37Speaker 2: sixty beds.
- 12:38Speaker 1: And so again I'll ask what do we do in
- 12:39Speaker 1: the meantime?
- 12:41Speaker 2: So, Katie, this is an issue that has been around
- 12:44Speaker 2: for a very long time. We do have age care providers.
- 12:47Speaker 2: We're looking at working with them. It's quite a complex
- 12:49Speaker 2: space in terms of age care provision, and we're looking
- 12:52Speaker 2: at what leaders we can pull in the meantime, even
- 12:55Speaker 2: if it's four or six beds here or there, that
- 12:57Speaker 2: will make a difference on our hospital system.
- 13:00Speaker 1: Now, what about the mental health capacity at the moment?
- 13:02Speaker 1: I know it was confirmed last week that part of
- 13:05Speaker 1: the surgical ward I believe it was, or one of
- 13:07Speaker 1: the wards at Royal Dale Hospital was being used for
- 13:11Speaker 1: those mental health patients that flow on. How far off
- 13:14Speaker 1: are we from those additional mental health beds coming online?
- 13:18Speaker 2: So, Katie, there's a number of things that we're doing
- 13:21Speaker 2: in that space. We're reshaping within the emergency department to
- 13:24Speaker 2: have better diagnosis space, so have rooms in that rather
- 13:27Speaker 2: than the cubicles. We're looking at short term beds, so
- 13:30Speaker 2: in the next three or so months, can we bring
- 13:33Speaker 2: some existing infrastructure online. We're also looking at in terms
- 13:37Speaker 2: of the existing county and JIU wards, can we fit
- 13:40Speaker 2: more beds in there whilst we build those eighteen beds.
- 13:43Speaker 2: Acknowledging that it takes time to build, particularly mental health infrastructure.
- 13:47Speaker 2: That is very specific. What can we do in the
- 13:50Speaker 2: short term because we as you've just highlighted, people are
- 13:53Speaker 2: getting beds, but they're in wards within the main tarer
- 13:55Speaker 2: of the hospital, which.
- 13:56Speaker 1: I would imagine is not ideal when you talk about
- 13:59Speaker 1: the treatment of the those patients.
- 14:02Speaker 2: Oh, correct, Katie. It's not wonderful for anyone. But our
- 14:05Speaker 2: staff are working and this is why it's so important
- 14:08Speaker 2: that we do clinical planning, that we do infrastructure planning.
- 14:11Speaker 2: But there is a lot happening in the space that
- 14:13Speaker 2: will ease the pressures on particularly the top end hospital beagecare.
- 14:17Speaker 2: We see one or two age care patients within our
- 14:20Speaker 2: regional hospitals and Alice Springs, but there's a significant number
- 14:23Speaker 2: in Rozalen and again same with the mental health. We're also, Katie,
- 14:26Speaker 2: in the mental health space, hospital is not a great
- 14:28Speaker 2: place for people, so that corresponder model is really important.
- 14:31Speaker 2: And also cybercute beds working with our community providers, and
- 14:34Speaker 2: we have funded eight additional beds recently to try and
- 14:37Speaker 2: keep people in a supported situation but not an acute setting.
- 14:41Speaker 1: All right, So just taking a very quick look back
- 14:43Speaker 1: at with those sixty beds that have been provided provisional
- 14:47Speaker 1: funding for age Care, there's still a couple of years
- 14:49Speaker 1: off in reality with those mental health beds, the ones
- 14:53Speaker 1: not know not within the next few months, some capacity
- 14:57Speaker 1: in different places to fit people in. But with the
- 14:59Speaker 1: ones that you are working on that are going to
- 15:01Speaker 1: be long term you know, beds or placements in mental
- 15:06Speaker 1: health care, how far off are we from those being
- 15:09Speaker 1: complete and operational.
- 15:11Speaker 2: So Katie, this funding's just come through, and as I
- 15:14Speaker 2: said previously, we'll update the community as we have specific
- 15:16Speaker 2: time frames. And I hate to cut you off, but
- 15:18Speaker 2: I do have to get into Parliament, so the bells
- 15:22Speaker 2: that we've certainly got to get in there in the
- 15:24Speaker 2: next minute or.
- 15:25Speaker 1: Okay, I just want to ask you then very quickly,
- 15:27Speaker 1: we got a text yesterday from Woody his forty six
- 15:30Speaker 1: year old wife had a stroke on Saturday afternoon. Luckily
- 15:33Speaker 1: she is okay. She couldn't get a CareFlight chopper for
- 15:36Speaker 1: unknown reasons. She's out at Dundee. He was forced to
- 15:39Speaker 1: carry her in the car and transport her by ambulance.
- 15:43Speaker 1: The issue that they've got out there is phone reception.
- 15:46Speaker 1: It's intermittent at the time and due to overloading the
- 15:49Speaker 1: tower once they left the driveway, they've got no opportunity
- 15:52Speaker 1: then to get in contact with anybody. What are we
- 15:55Speaker 1: doing out at Dundee for these people, for these residents
- 15:58Speaker 1: to make sure that we do not have situations like this?
- 16:02Speaker 2: So Katie, I don't know all the details of that
- 16:04Speaker 2: in terms of communications, where we certainly need to can
- 16:07Speaker 2: we look at upgrading those to make sure people have
- 16:08Speaker 2: got it? But the PHN, the primary Health Network, is
- 16:11Speaker 2: working closely with the Progress Association. It's trying to work
- 16:14Speaker 2: out is it an emergency type care or is it
- 16:17Speaker 2: GP primary healthcare. But there certainly has been working that
- 16:20Speaker 2: The Progress Association out there at Dundee was successful in
- 16:23Speaker 2: gaining a workforce Development grant to engage a consultant so
- 16:27Speaker 2: we can scope the health needs of that growing community.
- 16:29Speaker 2: So I look forward to working with the community around
- 16:32Speaker 2: this into the future and the PHN.
- 16:33Speaker 1: All right, I know we've run out of time. We
- 16:35Speaker 1: will leave it there. I was going to ask you
- 16:36Speaker 1: about Parliament, but we've run out of time. Thank you
- 16:38Speaker 1: very much for your time this morning, Minister.
- 16:41Speaker 2: Thank you