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- 0:15Welcome to Barber Cuts, Feeds and Bars.
- 0:17We're a father to daughter music podcast that slices into some of
- 0:20the greatest albums, one cut at a time.
- 0:22With no industry ties or formal training, just a shared love of
- 0:25music, we explore albums across genres, rating favorites and
- 0:30skips while digging into what makes each one iconic.
- 0:33I bring the beats. And I bring the bars and
- 0:36together we deliver real talk and fresh takes from both sides
- 0:39of the sound. Hi, I'm Riley.
- 0:42And I'm Todd, and welcome to this week's episode of Barbara
- 0:45Cuts, where we talk about disintegration by the cure.
- 0:50So let's hop straight into those least favorites.
- 0:56I'll let you start. All right, by least favorites.
- 1:01I thought it was pretty hard to pick a least favorite.
- 1:05Not necessarily because like I loved the album.
- 1:09Not to give away my opinions too early, they just all sounded
- 1:13pretty similar so it was hard to differentiate.
- 1:16Any of them is like different than the others.
- 1:21But my least favorites were Last Dance, which I said was good,
- 1:27just not as good as the others. Like again, just like at the
- 1:31baseline, this one was just slightly lower.
- 1:34It's like OK lyrics OK B, but it was overall just OK compared to
- 1:40some of the others. And then my least favorite was
- 1:43Closed Down and I said that it was more musically and musical
- 1:50esque, which is fine to me when it's a musical.
- 1:54I like musicals, but this album is not a musical.
- 1:58Again, doesn't mean I hate it, it just wasn't as good as other
- 2:02songs were. So my least favorite two really
- 2:07were prayers for rain and then the same deep water as you, the
- 2:16the and, and it's funny because the, the the same deep water as
- 2:20you is over 9 minutes long, but it, a lot of them just seem very
- 2:27repetitive. And you know, I, I actually did
- 2:32not mind. And again, try not to give away
- 2:36for the ratings at the back like I didn't, I didn't necessarily
- 2:40mind the 1st 6 songs. I know your least favorite came
- 2:44from those, but I didn't, I didn't mind the 1st 6 songs.
- 2:49But then I I guess somewhere in six to seven, it's like, oh,
- 2:56I've had enough. And the rest of the album just
- 3:00wasn't really a fan of it. And those were the first two of
- 3:05the, you know, or after, I guess I've had that shift.
- 3:08Those were the 1st 2:00 somewhere in fascination St.
- 3:12which is the 7th song. I guess my mind shifted and I
- 3:14had had enough of the gloominess and so just didn't like 8 and 9.
- 3:21I, I am in the same opinion of as you that it, you know, every
- 3:26song. And I guess again, I also want
- 3:29to give a little bit of of credit because this is again,
- 3:35this isn't a genre I'm familiar with.
- 3:38And other than the most popular ones that have played on the
- 3:43radio when I would have been listening to the radio, I'm, you
- 3:47know, I don't listen to much Cure.
- 3:49So this is, this is going to sound disrespectful, but it's
- 3:53really not. They all sounded a lot alike.
- 3:56So it was, it was hard, hard to pick that, you know, and I get
- 4:00that when you go into genres you're unfamiliar with, they are
- 4:03going to tend to sound a lot alike.
- 4:05So. I will also say for anybody
- 4:08who's tweeting into this first episode and loves The Cure, we
- 4:11both said the same thing about ACDC and Metallica for parts of
- 4:16him like. So it's nothing against the band
- 4:19when we say stuff like that at all because both of us like or
- 4:23liked relatively ACDC and Metallica.
- 4:26We just get tired of it sometimes.
- 4:28Although, spoiler alert, we hadn't actually recorded those
- 4:30for public consumption yet. But we have talked.
- 4:32About. Sure, I forgot about that.
- 4:35So don't go looking for those two bands in in the queue yet.
- 4:42Some someday they'll someday they'll be there.
- 4:44So but so I guess from there we'll move on to favorites.
- 4:52What were your favourites? So I couldn't narrow it down to
- 4:55three or to two. I had three almost 4 almost
- 5:01again. They all sound so similar that
- 5:04if I liked one I was like oh I gotta like this one too.
- 5:08My one of my favourites was Untitled the last Song, which I
- 5:15think has been one of the first times that the last song was my
- 5:19favorite. Usually the last songs kind of
- 5:22disappoint me. This one I really liked.
- 5:25Maybe other than Pink Floyd. I think so far that's been the
- 5:27only one where the last one was like, this is good.
- 5:33Yeah, Untitled, I don't know. It was just more my type of
- 5:37music for the Cure. Like it delved into that type of
- 5:40things. And I really liked, I really
- 5:44liked the lyrics of untitled, just the parts where he just
- 5:52repeats, like never quite said what I wanted to say to you.
- 5:55I never quite managed the words to explain to you, never quite
- 6:00knew how to make them believable.
- 6:01And now the time is gone. I, I really like that sentiment.
- 6:05I feel like a lot of people share that sentiment and like
- 6:09never feeling like they said the right words to someone until it
- 6:12was too late to say them. Yeah.
- 6:15I I read somewhere where Robert Smith who's the lead singer as
- 6:20called that one of his favorite Cure songs.
- 6:24So I'm just in with the band essentially.
- 6:28But I mean, I also really liked the lyrics.
- 6:31The hopelessly fighting the devil futility, feeling the
- 6:36monster climb deeper inside of me, feeling him gnawing my heart
- 6:39away hungrily. I'll never lose this pain and
- 6:41never dream of you again. Like it's just this like, I
- 6:46don't know, just a beautiful way of wording wording it like a
- 6:49very like you. You feel that deeper than just
- 6:53like, oh, I feel like I'm losing you like that.
- 6:56This feels so much deeper, like I'll never lose this pain of
- 7:00like not having you and I'll never get to dream of you again.
- 7:03Beautiful song. Yeah, and, and then I made the
- 7:06same, I made the same comment. Like to me, that was a that was
- 7:09a good ending song. Yeah.
- 7:12Musically it it, it sounded a lot like the rest of the album.
- 7:16But the lyrics and and I even had in there like never, never
- 7:21quite managed the words to explain to you.
- 7:24And now the time is gone. It's like I've been trying to
- 7:26say something for 11 songs I've been trying to get across, but I
- 7:32haven't quite managed to do it. And now my time on this album,
- 7:35you know, even if it's just an album.
- 7:37And now my time is gone. Like that was a really, you
- 7:41know, again, I how we interpret them, what bands even mean, who
- 7:48knows? But that was that was really
- 7:50neat to see that. So now the my next two favorite
- 7:56songs were Prayers for Rain and Same Deep Water as You.
- 8:02That's. Great.
- 8:03So I tried to hold it in when you told me and just nodded it
- 8:07along. I loved these songs.
- 8:11These Untitled was my first and then these two songs I kind of
- 8:17put so. Is this so?
- 8:18Is this the first time that we've recorded where we we had
- 8:21this happen? Just so where we had both happen
- 8:24switch where? We where we don't, we don't try
- 8:27like you know, so. We've had we've had like one or
- 8:31two of like Miley's favorites was one of your favorites or
- 8:34like you just didn't care. This is the first time that both
- 8:38of your least favorites were Think my talk too.
- 8:41Yeah, so so so tell me why I'm wrong.
- 8:46So for Prince, for Reign specifically, I don't think I'm
- 8:50going to do that. But Prince for Reign
- 8:51specifically, I really liked the way, liked the timing of his
- 8:57voice and like the inflections of his voice and kind of how
- 9:00they matched the beats 'cause like it wasn't just like a
- 9:05normal, like you stifle me. It was you stifle me.
- 9:09Like it was like, I don't know how to word it correctly.
- 9:11It was like Shakespeare how he has like the weird inflections
- 9:14of voices like this one kind of matched that.
- 9:17And I thought that was like interesting to listen to.
- 9:22And then the lyrics again, I I liked the ways he worded certain
- 9:27things, like infectious sense of hopelessness, like I, I like the
- 9:33way that's worded. And the other part I liked was
- 9:43and nowhere glows but drearily and tired.
- 9:45The hours all spent on pulling time again, like that's the
- 9:50most, I think, perfect way to describe hopelessness like
- 9:55lyrically, just like everything dim, not necessarily gone, but
- 10:00dim. So you don't see the point of
- 10:02the light anymore and you feel like everything you're doing is
- 10:06just killing time. Nothing is for a purpose.
- 10:08It's just to work until you die essentially.
- 10:11And so this whole song being about like hopelessness and
- 10:14prayers for rain and like deteriorating those that like
- 10:18little bar is like exactly sums it up better than like I could.
- 10:23And it's I always say the reason I like lyrics is because they
- 10:26put to words these feelings that are so hard to explain.
- 10:30And like as an artist, I try to put like visuals to it, but I
- 10:35love words. And so lyrics, I always find it
- 10:38so incredible when people can put to mind like, oh, that's
- 10:41exactly what I'm feeling. Same with poems and books and
- 10:45stuff like that. And so this one just did exactly
- 10:47that where it's like, Oh, that is hopelessness.
- 10:49That's like a beautiful way to describe hopelessness in a song
- 10:52about hopelessness. So I just really appreciated
- 10:55that same deep water as you was very similar.
- 10:59I I liked how it sounded. I liked the the beat.
- 11:04It's a dark song as most of the cure is, but the the lyric that
- 11:15really most of these lyrics I really liked.
- 11:17They were little uncomfy just because of how dark they are.
- 11:21But my favorite was like the last little bit where it says
- 11:26but I don't see and I don't feel but tightly hold up silently my
- 11:29hands before my fading eyes and in my eyes, your smile, the very
- 11:33last thing before I go. And I don't know, that's that's
- 11:38beautiful. Like just saying like it's
- 11:42almost the if I die today, I'll die happy.
- 11:45Like when you do something good. Like that's almost what he's
- 11:48kind of saying is like, let me this whole song is kind of like,
- 11:53let me kiss you, kiss me goodbye and let me die so that I can be
- 11:57with you in some way. And like, the last thing I'll
- 12:00see is your smile before I go. And then it just kind of
- 12:07repeats. I will kiss you forever on
- 12:08nights like this. And we shall be together.
- 12:11And I think there are a lot of ways you could, like, interpret
- 12:14whether or not he's, like dying or sleeping or like whether
- 12:18she's dead already and that's why he wants to die or if he'll
- 12:22just never have her in this lifetime.
- 12:24So he wants to die. Like, there's a lot of different
- 12:27ways you can kind of take it. But I think no matter which way
- 12:30you take it, the sentiment is kind of a dark way of being
- 12:34nice, like a beautifully grim story like Romeo and Juliet.
- 12:40It kind of reminds me of that. So I just really liked the
- 12:44lyrics of those more than anything.
- 12:46The one, the one that got pushed out of like my top three really
- 12:50because of the lack of lyrics that I liked was Lullaby.
- 12:56I liked how creepy it sounded, but I could not take it
- 12:59seriously. Whenever it said like tonight
- 13:02you will be eaten by Spider Man or something like Spider Man
- 13:05will eat you. I couldn't take that seriously.
- 13:07Did you? Did you see why he wrote that
- 13:09one? No, I didn't I.
- 13:11Didn't and looking it up his and so lullaby is one of their more
- 13:16popular ones on the at least Spotify stream wise.
- 13:21It was written because he said his dad used to tell him
- 13:25lullabies at night when he was a kid and they would always end
- 13:30like that. Like something crazy bad
- 13:32happening. Like OK, you know, stereotyping
- 13:36here. Maybe the maybe the music makes
- 13:38a little sense now. But let the world know that Todd
- 13:44every night saying goodnight to me had to say don't have bad
- 13:47dreams and don't be sick every day in the morning because I
- 13:50thought that if you didn't, I would have a nightmare or I
- 13:52would wake up sick. So that would have gone over
- 13:56very poorly in our house sent. Sent her off to college with a
- 14:01recording of it so she could play it when she needed to.
- 14:04I have played it before many of you.
- 14:07So, yeah, well, when I saw that, I was like, wow, that's that's
- 14:12really that the lyrics make a whole lot more sense after
- 14:16hearing that story of why, of why he did that and why it's
- 14:19called lullaby with those those lyrics, like, OK.
- 14:23Yeah, I just couldn't take it seriously because Spider Man
- 14:27like imagining like this red and blue superhero.
- 14:30But before you move on to your favorites, did I change your
- 14:34mind? No, just again, you know, and
- 14:42and like you said, not that you really expect it to, but it's
- 14:45just the I, I, I did change my mind on one of them, but I'll
- 14:51get to that one in a second. So my favorites or one of mine
- 14:55for me was pictures of you. So again, one of one of their
- 15:00more popular ones on it, but you know, it's just a good song to
- 15:05remind you of others and loss and and what that looks like.
- 15:10You know, the wind chime started and and it seems like it's a
- 15:15nice little upbeat pop song, Got a nice little rhythm to it.
- 15:21The lyrics don't really start, I think, until about two minutes
- 15:25in. But, you know, we've talked
- 15:29about this in several other songs that we've liked.
- 15:32The lyrics hit heavy and they're juxtaposed on top of the music
- 15:38that's going on. So it's like, OK, am I happy
- 15:42with the music or am I sad as I start to listen to the lyrics,
- 15:47you know, and and again, supposedly this was written
- 15:50after a a house fire of his and all he could find were pictures
- 15:55of his pictures of his wife and, and she was OK.
- 16:01They're they're married. But that's all I could all that
- 16:05was left, you know, But when they do, but when they do kick
- 16:08in, like the first lyrics that you get, I've been looking so
- 16:13long at these pictures of you that I almost believe that
- 16:17they're real. I've been living so long with my
- 16:20picture of you that I almost believe that the pictures are
- 16:24all I can feel like. Wow.
- 16:26Like you've gone from feeling for a person and loving a person
- 16:32to now all I can actually feel any more are the legitimate
- 16:39physical pictures of the person that I've got.
- 16:42It's a neat way of wording something.
- 16:44Again, I think I feel like they had a lot of neat ways of
- 16:46wording something and that brought it to light.
- 16:48Because like my, my best example of that is like the only
- 16:55memories I have of Dewey, my grandfather is through pictures.
- 17:00And like, sometimes stuff you tell me, but like when I look at
- 17:03pictures, it's like the only time I have 'cause he passed
- 17:06away before I could remember him.
- 17:08And so like my only like I only have pictures of him and that's
- 17:13all I know. You know, like I don't have like
- 17:15direct memories of the person. And that's a good, great way of
- 17:20wording it. It's like now this picture is
- 17:22you like that's all I know. It is and, and you know, the,
- 17:26the very next note and, and that shows that like we, we to, to
- 17:31people listening, like we, we've got a format that we follow with
- 17:34favorite songs. And hopefully I'll listened
- 17:36enough to pick up on this, but our, our role with each other,
- 17:40We don't, we don't talk about the, the songs before this
- 17:43moment or talk about anything. And the very next bullet point I
- 17:48had was it reminds me of my dad, you know, and, and the pictures
- 17:54I have of him and especially the few that we have of him with the
- 17:58kids, like with you and Wesley, because that's, you know, he's,
- 18:04he passed away in 2007. Yeah, 2007.
- 18:12And, you know, yes, there is some truth to the adage that
- 18:17that time heals all wounds and, and all that, you know, and, and
- 18:22memories and whatnot. But you know, it, there is some
- 18:27eerily unwanting, maybe truth to the song and, and, and there's
- 18:37some sadness of to that truth that after a while and so many
- 18:43years and so much life that keeps going on, you know, losing
- 18:48someone or losing something. And then all you have is the
- 18:52picture and that, that's that that's all you can feel.
- 18:55So you know that that one had a little, a little bit of a
- 18:58sentimentality to it. So my other one though, is one
- 19:08that I did change my mind on because I actually listened to
- 19:12it out of order, you know, or went back and listened to a
- 19:17couple and listened to it, listen to this one out of order
- 19:20and it was disintegration. And, you know, when I listened
- 19:26to it out of order and I didn't have the, the I'll, I'll call it
- 19:31the the gloom of eight songs beforehand, I'm like, OK, I can,
- 19:35I could see it with, with different eyes, you know, and,
- 19:39and I picked up on some things that I didn't pick up on,
- 19:42especially when I was looking at it with lyrics.
- 19:44So there's a breaking glass. Like it's at the very beginning,
- 19:49very subtle, but it's, but it's there.
- 19:52And then about four minutes, 10 seconds into the song, there's a
- 19:57lyric that says kind of back around.
- 20:01And breaking apart again, breaking apart like I'm made-up
- 20:05of glass again. I was like, I'm sure that was
- 20:08intentional, but if not, like that was really good.
- 20:12You know the, but the music at the start, like it's very
- 20:16driving drums and bass and then it seems to add in some synth
- 20:22synthesizers and piano that dinner.
- 20:27And so it's, it's kind of growing musically over the first
- 20:32minute and 1/2 or so. And then his vocals, and again
- 20:36I'll talk about it like lyrics and vocals are completely
- 20:39different. You know, vocals again, it's
- 20:44just an extra instrument and then the vocals can actually say
- 20:48something. But his vocals grow during the
- 20:51song. And so they start off slowly,
- 20:53but they continue to grow, which to me increases the anxiousness
- 21:00of the song. And so some, you know, there's a
- 21:05lyric in there. It's easier for me to get closer
- 21:09to heaven than to ever feel whole again.
- 21:13It's like, oh, that's a, that's a sad line.
- 21:18But it's like, I leave you with photographs, pictures of
- 21:21trickery. And then I'm like, oh, I wonder
- 21:24if he's talking about pictures of you.
- 21:26So it's like, you know, 'cause you've mentioned before where
- 21:29they have lyrics in one song that talk about another song or
- 21:32theirs. I was like, I wonder if that's
- 21:34what he's doing, you know, and stains on the carpet, stains of
- 21:39the memory. And it's, and so he's building
- 21:43up. And so this at, at about 5
- 21:47minutes, 45 seconds, I mean, he almost sounds as if he's in just
- 21:52utter anguish. And the title of the song
- 21:56Disintegration seems appropriate as there seems to be this
- 22:00desperation of building throughout the song, you know,
- 22:05and, and it, and it goes on again after that for like 2 more
- 22:08minutes. We, we talked before about like,
- 22:12that's not really my favorite thing, but for this one, it
- 22:16almost seems to work because the repetition fits the mood and
- 22:23adds to the angst and the anxiousness of the song.
- 22:29And so, you know, when it's all put together, I actually enjoyed
- 22:34that song. So that would be my my two
- 22:38favorite songs, Pictures of You and Disintegration.
- 22:41He mentioned that I love it when songs bring back lyrics.
- 22:45The best, the best, the best example of that, it makes me
- 22:49excited every time it happens is Cage the Elephant.
- 22:54It ain't No Rest for the Wicked. Obviously the lyric is Ain't No
- 22:58Rest for the Wicked and their other really popular song,
- 23:02Trouble by Cage the Elephant. They say at some point, like,
- 23:06you know what they say? Yeah, The Wicked get no rest
- 23:10that oh, I eat it up every time. That makes me so excited.
- 23:14Anytime it comes on. I just love it.
- 23:17I'm like, you know what they say?
- 23:19It's what you say. What are you talking?
- 23:21About, yeah. I love it.
- 23:23You know, one one other thing that I'd oh that I'll ask about
- 23:27the about the opening, 'cause you you had really liked the
- 23:32last song. To me, the opening song was a
- 23:36really good opening song for an out for this album too, called
- 23:40plain song. It really fit and set the tone
- 23:47and it and it had this again, this wind chime soft opening and
- 23:52then almost like a orchestra. You know, my notes.
- 23:56I called it an explosion of a note that just started and then,
- 24:03you know, again, it sets the gloomy tone of the entire album
- 24:08really in a in a fantastic way right at the beginning.
- 24:13I I would agree something I was going to say that could add to
- 24:19what your opinions are on this band.
- 24:23But when I was first listening through this album, the first
- 24:28thought that popped on my head on many, many, many of the songs
- 24:33with the synth, with kind of the beats and parts of the voice,
- 24:37but not as much was if Muse does not coin The Cure as an
- 24:43inspiration, they're lying. And I looked it up and Muse has
- 24:49directly coined like the Cure and Radiohead as two of their
- 24:52biggest inspirations. And I think with this album,
- 24:56it's really clear for me. I love Muse.
- 24:59Muse, probably one of my favorite bands.
- 25:02It's up there at least. And so that like added to it, I
- 25:07was like, God, I can easily recognize like a lot of things
- 25:11that Muse has taken away in a lot of their albums.
- 25:14But every time I listen to it, all I could hear was certain
- 25:18things from Muse that they like. People park.
- 25:21Yeah, so, and since you mentioned Muse, some some other
- 25:24artist, you know, 'cause another thing that we like to do is, is
- 25:28try and figure out why do, why experts and why people consider
- 25:32this to be one of the greater albums.
- 25:34So here's some other artists that have mentioned the Cure
- 25:38particular or this this album, 9 Inch Nails.
- 25:43So Trent Reznor even gave the speech inducting them into the
- 25:48Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. So he's a huge fan, obviously
- 25:53one that I didn't see coming. Smashing Pumpkins as said they
- 26:00have were heavily influenced by the Cure.
- 26:02So some others, Deftones, churches, The Cranberries, Blink
- 26:06182, Jesus and Mary Chain. Adele covered Love Song on her
- 26:12album 21 and it was really good and 3:11.
- 26:16So going back to 90s, all those folks would definitely know 311.
- 26:22They covered Love Song as well for the film 51st Dates.
- 26:26No way. Yeah, and it's actually I.
- 26:29Like 3. 11 bad. Yeah.
- 26:31And love love song was really good too.
- 26:33I mean, that's that's their most popular one on here.
- 26:36And it is. It's probably their easiest one,
- 26:39Not very gloomy. I mean, the music I think sounds
- 26:43a little glimmy, but the words, if you look at the words, it's
- 26:46exactly what its title. It's a love song.
- 26:49And it was actually written, written for his wife.
- 26:52So it's a sweet little song. That's sweet, that's cool.
- 26:57I mean deaf sounds. I think they've just credited
- 27:01every artist as their inspiration.
- 27:02I feel like their name pops up every time.
- 27:05They could. We're just gonna, we're just
- 27:08gonna throw them all in here and see what comes out.
- 27:10Like so far I feel like every time we've had a lit a step tone
- 27:15to spin on that list somewhere. Yeah, yeah, right.
- 27:19And, and who was it on? Was it on the Sex Pistols, the
- 27:24Cure list of the Sex Pistols? Like they came out of this post
- 27:26punk punk scene and and adapted a little bit and I, and I guess
- 27:34instead of going the angry route that the Sex Pistols did in, in
- 27:39their angst against the world, the Cure went the gloomy, sad
- 27:44route and their angst against the the world.
- 27:49And those two sounds are quite opposite one another.
- 27:54Yeah, they are, but. It is a great album to listen to
- 27:59for the feels. Because it will, yeah,
- 28:04definitely make you so investigate all your feelings
- 28:10and, you know. It's not what you wanted to do.
- 28:13Yeah, yeah, it's, it's, I mean, you know, not, not necessarily
- 28:18what I want to do, but no, but I, you know, coming into the 80s
- 28:24and coming out of the punk sound like this was what they were
- 28:27doing was fairly new, like, and, and they're getting radio time
- 28:32with it as well. So, so that's, that's that's
- 28:37awfully, awfully impressive. And, and everything that I,
- 28:40everything that I gathered was it was just a reflection of what
- 28:45the lead singer was, was going through at the time, according
- 28:49to some of the articles that I read.
- 28:51Like, obviously he's a great vocalist and I agree, just in
- 28:55some of the lyrics, like he reminded me of what we were
- 28:58talking about from the singer from Arcade Fire, of being able
- 29:03to put words down and then not only choose the right words like
- 29:09you were talking about, but the way that he sings them.
- 29:12It's like, oh, I feel you're paint.
- 29:16Like I can almost, you know, I don't want to say that I do feel
- 29:19it, but it's almost as if I can feel what he's going through and
- 29:23the anguish. And.
- 29:25What's coming through his voice? Yeah, yeah, because he's just
- 29:28that good. But, you know, he he had
- 29:32problems coping with the fame and would take LSD to help with
- 29:35his depression. And so as you start to re bite,
- 29:38you can you can see again just the words that are coming out
- 29:43and it of the song and and and can appreciate it so much
- 29:50better. And then even Robert Smith said
- 29:54he was heavily influenced by Jimi Hendrix, who will make a
- 30:00future appearance with us, and also by the Sex Pistols and
- 30:03particularly that Anarchy and the UK song, he said.
- 30:07Love that song. I was thinking it was
- 30:09interesting, like how big they got for them being kind of like
- 30:13the beginning of something like the first of the sound.
- 30:19But I, I, I mean, I really liked it If you want to go into
- 30:24ratings unless you have something else to.
- 30:26Nothing other than if you haven't heard The Cure or this
- 30:31album particularly like Get Ready, it is melancholy, it is
- 30:37dark, as you mentioned, it is gloomy, depressing, but I think
- 30:43that was the intent. Yeah.
- 30:45And hey, I mean. If if, if they hoped it to be a
- 30:48happy go lucky album, they failed miserably.
- 30:52Like I'll just put that out on the record.
- 30:54I don't think that's what they were going for.
- 30:56So I'm gonna give them the benefit of the doubt and say
- 30:58that they they, they probably hit spot on what they were going
- 31:02for and and I'll give them credit for that.
- 31:06I know I keep saying it, but if there ever was an album or a
- 31:11vibe to count almost 1000 Mosquitoes too.
- 31:16Boy oh boy, is this the album. Yeah.
- 31:20I can see that like. You just feel awkward.
- 31:23It's so like creepy, like you're just staring at a Petri dish
- 31:27with like 300 mosquitoes in it and you're like, well, this
- 31:30feels like a nightmare in of itself.
- 31:32And I like mosquitoes. So it's just, if ever there was
- 31:35an album, it was this one. But I can I.
- 31:38Can see that. For my personal rating, I rated
- 31:42it a 7.5. It's pretty cool, I liked it.
- 31:47I tend to like gloomier albums, which always takes people aback
- 31:53about myself, but I tend to like gloomier albums.
- 31:57They tend to have better lyrics and this one kind of supported
- 32:01that theory in my mind. And yeah, I just, I liked how it
- 32:07sounded. I think it's not an album that I
- 32:10could listen to at any time the way some of the albums have
- 32:13been, like Arcade Fire, Pink Floyd.
- 32:15I feel like if those songs came on, I'd stop and listen.
- 32:19If Disintegration came on and I wasn't feeling it, I wouldn't be
- 32:24able to listen to it and enjoy it the same way.
- 32:26But I still think that a lot of times I am in the mood for it,
- 32:29which is why it's still pretty high.
- 32:32But my overall rating was an 8.5.
- 32:36I think the beats and yeah, my abject any sign was an 8.5.
- 32:44I think the lyrics were spot on most of the time.
- 32:49I think the beats are spot on. Like you said, it seems as if
- 32:55they met their goal with this album.
- 32:58And I think like hearing reading some and then hearing you talk
- 33:03more about like kind of where he's coming from with some of
- 33:05the lyrics, like reinforces my idea that like he achieved what
- 33:09he was looking for, whatever that was like in Lullaby.
- 33:13I don't know what he was going for.
- 33:14But hearing that, you know, makes me realize even more like,
- 33:18OK, he he got out what he wanted to get out in that song and
- 33:20pictures of you with his wife. And like, he just seemed to do
- 33:25it very successfully, whatever he was doing.
- 33:28And then the beat sounded nice. The voice with the beat sounded
- 33:30nice. He knew when to be loud.
- 33:33He knew when to whisper. And he knew what those different
- 33:36things did to your emotions and your like, anxiety levels, I
- 33:41guess. And he was very good at
- 33:44manipulating all of those pieces.
- 33:46However, lots of the pieces sounded very similar.
- 33:51And that's just where it kind of fell off.
- 33:53I mean, if you it's good because if you like one song, you like
- 33:57the Cure, and if you don't, you don't like it kind of separates
- 34:00the middle bulk pretty well. But at the same time, like
- 34:05objectively, a lot of songs sounded pretty similar and a lot
- 34:09of the musical riffs sounded very similar.
- 34:11And sometimes it worked like you said, but sometimes it just kind
- 34:14of clashed so. And they've got, you know,
- 34:19again, just for people that may not know the Cure love song is
- 34:24their biggest one off this one. You know, they've got a big hit
- 34:30and I may get them backwards which way they go.
- 34:32But just like Heaven, I think is the album before this one, which
- 34:36a lot of people may know. And then Friday I'm in Love is,
- 34:41I think, the album right after this one, which are two of their
- 34:45bigger ones that got lots of radio play as well that sound
- 34:49more pop than they do. And just like Love Song, they
- 34:53sound more pop really than they do.
- 34:55Yeah, gloomy, gloomy. Friday I'm in love was on one of
- 34:58like the random Snapchat filters.
- 35:01You know how sometimes I'll have music locked with them?
- 35:03Friday I'm in love was on with them and I was like, huh, I know
- 35:06you. Yeah.
- 35:08This is weird. You know the cure.
- 35:10This doesn't sound like what I'm listening to.
- 35:14Yeah. So for me, not surprisingly,
- 35:17it's not my musical cup of tea. But that being said, and I
- 35:24mentioned earlier, like the first six songs were good.
- 35:28I'm I'm not and never will be. I don't think the cures #1 fan.
- 35:33They're they're doing just fine without me.
- 35:35But those songs were good. The next three though, and
- 35:39that's where your favorite came in.
- 35:42Maybe it took you 6 songs to get into your fields appropriately.
- 35:47And I'm like, by that time, like, no, no more for me.
- 35:51So I ran, so I ran away mentally and, and you like, you know, dug
- 35:55in and it really stayed that way for me throughout the rest of
- 35:59the album. I I went back and and gave them,
- 36:02you know, listens again without going through the whole album
- 36:09just to see if I felt that way the same.
- 36:11And, and like I said, it's the integration popped out to me,
- 36:15but none of the others really did.
- 36:18And so that one made it into a favorite list.
- 36:23So there's my reasoning. My personal rating was a 5.5 so
- 36:29low. Now again, it's it's not my cup
- 36:34of tea, but objectively, like, OK, yeah, you've influenced a
- 36:39lot of people, you've done something new, you've been
- 36:44around. I mean, they're almost as old as
- 36:47I am as a band. So like, that's impressive.
- 36:51I I think, I think their first album was 79 and they were
- 36:55around a a couple years under different names, but really same
- 37:00band members before that. So like they're doing something
- 37:04right and and you in order to stick around for that long, you
- 37:07got to be pretty good. So you know, an 8.
- 37:11So personal rating for me, 5.5 objective and eight, Yeah.
- 37:17What's your song SOTW? So my song of the week is
- 37:22actually Rebellion Lies by Arcade Fire Which.
- 37:28You, you you went back and repeated.
- 37:30Which was not one of the favorites I listed.
- 37:33It was one of your favorite, but it just keeps coming on and I
- 37:38keep like kind of listening to it again and being like, oh, I
- 37:41like that. But I do have to say part of
- 37:44that. Is because.
- 37:47Yes, and part of that is because Lord Huron just released a new
- 37:51album and I've liked a bunch of those songs, but I've been
- 37:54listening to the album a lot, but not like specific songs.
- 37:59But I would, I will say, go listen to the new Lord Huron
- 38:04album. I really like it.
- 38:06I just haven't decided which one is my favorite off of it yet
- 38:09because I keep listening to it. Yeah, I'll agree with you.
- 38:13I listen to Lord Huron on the way home from seeing you this
- 38:17past weekend. So it was.
- 38:19It was after. I asked you to like 10 times.
- 38:21Yeah, after you asked me to. But my song of the week is from
- 38:28the 2000s. It's by Audioslave.
- 38:31So you know this band, the song is what you are.
- 38:36And so Audioslave is, for those of you that may not know, you
- 38:44maybe heard us talk about Chris Cornell or Soundgarden.
- 38:47So Chris Cornell was the lead singer there.
- 38:51And best vocalist of all time. Hey, who?
- 38:55Said that. Who said that?
- 38:58So and then he actually joined the remaining members of Rage
- 39:05Against the Machine when Zach de la Rocca left.
- 39:07And so that is Audioslave. So you've got the vocals of
- 39:14Chris Cornell, who is, yes, I one of the best vocal lists, and
- 39:22then the guitar of Tom Morello, who is wow, he's a very good
- 39:28guitar player. So I'm I'm not going to I'm not
- 39:32going to point you to for those you know, if you're a fan of the
- 39:37cure may not want to go listen to radio machine.
- 39:41Unless you're unless. You're me.
- 39:45Yeah. I mean, that may be as almost as
- 39:47opposite as you can get, so I wouldn't push you there, but go
- 39:50listen to some of the songs by Audioslave.
- 39:53You'll get some good Tom Morello guitar in there.
- 39:56So that's my song of the week. I think I can get you further
- 40:01based from my playlist, actually.
- 40:05Songs that came on in a row. I'll just do bands.
- 40:10Pierce The Veil. Not one of their calmer songs,
- 40:13one of their actually like screaming songs, one of the few
- 40:17that I like. The next one, Vanilla Twilight
- 40:21by Owl City. That may be further would be my
- 40:27theory, but maybe not. And then this upcoming week is a
- 40:33little special and a little different because it is Father
- 40:38Todd's birthday week is coming up.
- 40:42And what Father Todd, you're not a priest.
- 40:47Father Todd is like a priest name.
- 40:49He's not a priest. No.
- 40:51What you get to do and what he gets to do.
- 40:54As I just told people to go listen to Rage Against the
- 40:56Machine, I think they figured that one out.
- 40:59He gets to pick his favorite album of all time or album he
- 41:04just really wants to listen to. But we phrased it his favorite
- 41:07album. It can be from the list, it can
- 41:09be off the list. It can be whatever he chooses to
- 41:11be because he's the birthday boy.
- 41:12And so he gets to pick what song he wants to or what album he
- 41:16wants to listen to for the next week.
- 41:18And yeah, so I'm going to let you announce the pick for this
- 41:24week do. You do you want to guess?
- 41:27What your favorite album of all time is?
- 41:29I know what your favorite album thought.
- 41:30About trying to throw a surprise.
- 41:31And I was like, Nah, I'm not going to throw a surprise.
- 41:33I'll just go with what I know. So my favorite album is Pearl
- 41:39Jams 10. So that is what we will be
- 41:42listening to over the next week, you know, and for me, last week
- 41:49and the week before, I probably listened to songs from it each
- 41:52week. So this week will be nothing new
- 41:55for me. But this week I'll do, I will do
- 41:59something that I probably haven't done in quite some time.
- 42:01And that is listen to it in order all the way through.
- 42:04You know, again, there you go going back, going back to
- 42:07streaming and the differences of generational and, and how we
- 42:13consume music. You know, again, you don't, you
- 42:19can jump around and listen to music all kinds of Willy nilly.
- 42:24But you know, back in the day when we walked uphill to school
- 42:29both ways in the snow, you, you, you know, you couldn't do that.
- 42:34So but so. Looking forward to it.
- 42:38This is also exciting to. Me because this.
- 42:40Is I think the first one that I get to listen to on vinyl that I
- 42:46have on vinyl, Yeah. So.
- 42:49I get to go back in. Time, yeah, as.
- 42:54As I so that would have been the last time I listened to it all
- 42:58the way through was when we came up and but we, we cleaned
- 43:02something, cleaned your apartment and listened to it on
- 43:06your record player all the way there.
- 43:08Yeah. So very exciting stuff.
- 43:12Another album that was. Very good, but not on our list
- 43:15was Nirvana's MTV Unplugged. That's a really good album.
- 43:21What can I? Say I have good taste in my
- 43:24records. Yes, yes.
- 43:26I wonder where you got that from?
- 43:27So also I want to mention got Barber cuts pod on Instagram X
- 43:35Facebook. So go follow us there, interact
- 43:39with with us there, you know, drop in a song that you want us
- 43:43to listen to or tell us what we got wrong on these albums.
- 43:48That's great too. Or leave a comment over at
- 43:52Spotify. And also we've got a playlist
- 43:57that we're adding our favorites into and it's in the show notes.
- 44:01So feel free to go give that a follow as well if you like some
- 44:04of these. So has some spoilers for
- 44:07unreleased episodes as well I think.
- 44:08Yeah, there are some that we've already done in there.
- 44:11So you can see what some of those are.
- 44:14So just ignore those spoilers. So until.
- 44:19Next time, go listen. To Tim Grace Dalma all time.
- 44:22I'm Todd and I'm Riley, and this has been another.
- 44:25Episode of Barbara Katz.