Latest / Karl and Crew / AI and Spirituality Q&A with Dr. Drew Dickens
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- 2:49S6: with us for an hour. And boy, this is timely. Uh,
- 2:53S6: I want to prime the pump here, brother. There's a
- 2:55S6: lot going on with AI. You're an expert. Um, I've
- 3:00S6: got a question for you. But, Ali, let's make sure
- 3:03S6: people know who in the world drew is here.
- 3:05S4: Doctor drew Dickens, he's our AI expert, visionary, leader, scholar.
- 3:08S4: He has significantly contributed to work involving the intersection of technology, spirituality,
- 3:14S4: and faith based engagement. He has a phenomenal podcast that
- 3:19S4: talks about AI and he has become a favorite. I
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- 3:30S6: Yeah, so if you've got questions, give us a call
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- 3:35S4: Ali 800 oh switch number here 800 555 7898. We
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- 3:51S6: Okay. Drew. Uh, block, uh, big tech company laid off 40%
- 3:56S6: of their workforce. Yeah. What's going on, man? I'm hearing
- 4:00S6: more and more that entry level jobs for data crunchers, uh,
- 4:04S6: code writers, lawyers. There's there's it was, you know, years ago,
- 4:10S6: they thought, oh, AI comes it's going to gobble up
- 4:13S6: blue collar jobs. It's gobbling up white collar. What's going on?
- 4:17S6: Give us the lay of the land here.
- 4:19S7: Yeah. Jack Dorsey, who is the president of block that
- 4:22S7: you just mentioned? Uh, people might not have heard of
- 4:24S7: the company, but they they use it every day when
- 4:26S7: you go up and you tap your credit card at
- 4:28S7: the machine at the convenience store, uh, that's called square.
- 4:32S7: That little, uh, little block that you tap. Um, they've
- 4:35S7: got 10,000 employees. They laid off 4000 of them. Uh,
- 4:38S7: he attributes that to AI. Uh, so what's happening? I
- 4:42S7: was watching an interview just the other day of, uh,
- 4:45S7: the president and the CEOs of, uh, Anthropic Claude. Um,
- 4:50S7: and someone asked them if you if you had a
- 4:52S7: kid right now in college, what would you tell them
- 4:55S7: to major in? And it was really interesting. It used
- 4:57S7: to be computer code, computer programming, man. That's where the
- 5:00S7: future is. And she said, Liberal arts. Um, and that's
- 5:04S7: really the type of thinking that a lot of these organizations, these,
- 5:08S7: these AI firms are looking at, they just want people
- 5:11S7: that can think, they can communicate. And so yeah, these
- 5:15S7: job losses are coming. They're here. They're happening. It's only
- 5:18S7: going to increase I think. Um, but it's really having
- 5:21S7: a background and just learning how to think and learning
- 5:24S7: how to communicate I think is going to be one
- 5:26S7: of the greatest ways to kind of save what you've
- 5:29S7: got and build for the future.
- 5:31S4: Doctor Drew Dickens, our guest right now, he is an
- 5:34S4: AI expert, so phone lines and text lines open right now.
- 5:37S4: If you want to send us a question that you
- 5:40S4: have for Doctor Dickens 800 555 7898 800 555 7898.
- 5:48S4: Give us just a little bit of an overview of
- 5:51S4: how this became such a an area of expertise for you.
- 5:56S7: Oh my gosh. So when I was back in seminary,
- 5:59S7: I was doing a lot of writing back then on
- 6:01S7: theology and technology, that crossroads. So when I went on
- 6:04S7: to pursue my doctorate, you kind of have to narrow
- 6:06S7: down when you do that. And so this was, oh
- 6:09S7: my gosh, six years ago, hard to believe Covid. Uh,
- 6:12S7: six years ago, um, I decided to narrow down into
- 6:15S7: AI and everybody was like, what is that? Nobody was
- 6:18S7: talking about it. AI really blossomed during the World War two,
- 6:22S7: but nobody was really talking about it. Wasn't making the news. Uh,
- 6:26S7: and then six years ago, I thought, you know, that's
- 6:27S7: where I'm going to focus. And the joke is, I
- 6:29S7: couldn't get a return phone call. Now everybody wants me
- 6:31S7: on their podcast. And so it's been amazing writing this,
- 6:35S7: this wave. And you guys have been such incredible partners
- 6:39S7: with me in this. Really this last year, uh, and
- 6:42S7: when you and I first met at, uh, Carl at the,
- 6:44S7: at the NRP, but, um, so it's been an amazing
- 6:47S7: ride and it has just been exponential. The growth that
- 6:50S7: we're seeing every every day. The AI capacity, AI capabilities, uh,
- 6:56S7: report came out last week, doubles every seven months. Uh,
- 7:00S7: you know, it used to be every couple years.
- 7:02S6: And that's going to get that's going to speed up.
- 7:05S7: Yeah. It's not really even even an up and to
- 7:07S7: the right kind of movement. It's just a it's just
- 7:10S7: straight up. Now when you look at these curves it's
- 7:12S7: just like flat and then boom, straight up. So it's
- 7:15S7: not even a gradual increase. It's it's it's amazing to watch.
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- 7:55S6: for Doctor Drew Dickens. 800 555 7898 800 555 7898. Uh,
- 8:05S6: we've got Mac. First time caller from Florida. What do
- 8:08S6: you say, Mac?
- 8:09S8: Hey, how are you today?
- 8:11S6: Good. What's your question for Doctor Drew?
- 8:14S8: I wanted to ask Doctor Drew. Is there a room
- 8:17S8: in space or. You know, what? Should a 55 year old, uh,
- 8:21S8: consider educating himself on that? You know, newly getting familiar
- 8:25S8: with AI and has great experience in the workforce, you know,
- 8:30S8: with customer service and the hospitality industry.
- 8:33S7: Hmm.
- 8:33S6: Good question. Thanks, Mac. What do you say, drew?
- 8:36S7: Mac, you're 55. You're a kid. I'm 66, and I'm
- 8:39S7: doing this, so no excuse. Man, I love the question.
- 8:44S7: I love your heart for even wanting to be a
- 8:46S7: part of this. I would start by starting. I would
- 8:49S7: pick a language model. Uh, whether it's Claude, whether it's ChatGPT, Gemini,
- 8:55S7: any of these, and they're only really a couple of
- 8:57S7: handfuls of them. So you don't need to spend a
- 8:59S7: lot of time searching around, but just pick one and
- 9:02S7: and get on there and just start typing and just
- 9:06S7: start getting in there and start asking some questions and
- 9:09S7: getting used to it. I tell you what every language
- 9:11S7: model is now offering every one of them. I saw
- 9:13S7: one just this morning that that anthropic, which is Claude, uh,
- 9:17S7: they're offering an online. It's all free online courses on
- 9:22S7: how to learn and how to apply these. So Claude
- 9:24S7: is offering a free online course on, uh, how to
- 9:27S7: get involved in what's called Agentic AI or agents. We
- 9:31S7: talked about that on, on our, on this show a
- 9:33S7: couple of weeks ago with Claude. So each of these
- 9:37S7: is offering free programs. Gemini, which is Google, they have
- 9:41S7: a free program. Um, and a lot of the universities
- 9:43S7: are doing the same thing Stanford University, MIT, Harvard, they
- 9:47S7: all have just a little two week online courses you
- 9:50S7: can do to, to, to get into the basics. And
- 9:52S7: they're all free. So I would start there.
- 9:54S6: There's a lot of discussion about these different models, these
- 9:57S6: different AI engines. What are they called by the way.
- 10:00S6: What are they called platforms. Engines. What are they called.
- 10:04S7: I still struggle with with the with the pronouns. Do
- 10:07S7: I call him he or she when I'm engaging with
- 10:09S7: these things? So great question entity I'm kind of been
- 10:13S7: using lately. But it's a language model. So it's a model.
- 10:16S6: Yeah. Okay. By the way, one last I don't want
- 10:18S6: to miss this, uh, Forrest from Indiana, $100 monthly gifts. So, brother.
- 10:25S6: Thank you. Um, you know, I gotta tell you, uh, drew,
- 10:28S6: it's very interesting because I think there's a lot of fear.
- 10:32S6: There's a lot of misunderstanding. What should a Christ followers
- 10:37S6: posture be toward AI?
- 10:41S7: Well, you know, we know in Scripture all things were
- 10:43S7: created by him and for him. Uh, God didn't. And
- 10:46S7: I don't mean to joke about this, but I think
- 10:47S7: we can inadvertently take on this attitude. This didn't surprise
- 10:51S7: the creator of the universe. He God knew this was coming.
- 10:55S7: He saw this coming. Um, and so all things by
- 10:58S7: him and for him there is, there is, uh. Well,
- 11:02S7: I don't want to use the word evil, um, because
- 11:04S7: just fans that flame of that. But but there, there
- 11:07S7: is bad in this and there's so much good in this.
- 11:10S7: So I think the word that you and I talk
- 11:11S7: about all the time is discernment. I think we need
- 11:14S7: to enter into this space with a discerning, prayerful spirit, um,
- 11:19S7: and intentionally ask the Lord to be the spirit, to
- 11:22S7: be revealed in our time with this, with these platforms,
- 11:26S7: with these models. Uh, so I think that's the that's
- 11:29S7: the heart that we need to have is to pursue
- 11:32S7: God in and through this technology. Because much good can
- 11:37S7: come of this much bad can be there too. So
- 11:40S7: we just need to be discerning. As we walk through
- 11:42S7: these days.
- 11:42S4: We are taking your questions for our Ask the expert
- 11:46S4: right now, Doctor Drew Dickens. All things AI. If you
- 11:49S4: have a question, you can call or text to 800
- 11:52S4: 555 7898 800 555 7898. Doctor drew, I'm curious about
- 12:00S4: a recent podcast episode that you had that talked about
- 12:03S4: faithful resistance to AI. Give us some of the examples
- 12:07S4: of what we've seen nationwide and what to make of it.
- 12:12S7: Yeah. Thank you. That actually just went live about, uh,
- 12:15S7: an hour and a half ago. So, uh, boy, you
- 12:17S7: were on the cutting edge of that. Uh, thank you
- 12:20S7: for listening. Thank you for seeing that. Uh, so time magazine, uh,
- 12:24S7: just a week or so ago, came out with an episode, uh,
- 12:27S7: with an episode with a with a, uh, with a
- 12:30S7: article cover article about the AI resistance. And it interviewed, uh, nine,
- 12:35S7: I believe people, uh, that are pushing back against it. Uh,
- 12:39S7: and so there are a lot of, uh, a lot
- 12:41S7: of reasons that we're seeing in community about that. We,
- 12:44S7: we talk on this show quite a bit about the
- 12:46S7: danger of isolation when it comes to AI, these AI companions. Uh,
- 12:52S7: we can talk about that a little more if you want.
- 12:54S7: About 70% I've read now of teens, uh, spend at
- 12:58S7: some point in their day with an AI companion. Just.
- 13:01S7: That's crazy. 70%.
- 13:04S6: That is not good, is it, drew?
- 13:06S7: No no no no no, it frightens me. I've been.
- 13:08S7: I've been crying this for a year now. Uh, I
- 13:11S7: think that's one of the greatest risks that we all have,
- 13:14S7: teens or grandparents alike is, uh, developing a and I'm
- 13:19S7: doing air quotes here, uh, for radio. But a relationship, uh,
- 13:23S7: of course it's not. But but when we start to
- 13:25S7: develop a relationship with these platforms, with these models, very dangerous,
- 13:29S7: very dangerous, you know, um. Go ahead.
- 13:32S6: No, I'm just the danger is weird, and it can
- 13:35S6: get slippery. I have given a prompt to my AI
- 13:40S6: platform don't stroke my ego. Don't tell me. Great question.
- 13:45S6: Don't massage me. I don't need that. I'm not talking
- 13:49S6: to a person, so I'm not rude about it. But
- 13:51S6: I'm also very forthright and I say just give me
- 13:54S6: the facts because I don't need that. These things are
- 13:57S6: given towards stroking people. Oh yeah, and it's weird, isn't it?
- 14:02S7: Well, yes. And they're brilliant at it. Um, it's called
- 14:06S7: being a sycophant is the is the big fancy term
- 14:09S7: for that. And you know why they're good at that?
- 14:11S7: Because they have read these AI models, have read every book,
- 14:15S7: every ever written about human interactions. So it knows we
- 14:20S7: love that stuff secretly. Okay. Um, and yeah, I, like you,
- 14:24S7: have done the same thing. I have coded mine to
- 14:26S7: not do that because frankly, it's a waste of time.
- 14:28S7: But I will ask it.
- 14:29S6: Yeah.
- 14:30S7: I will, I will ask it the most benign what's
- 14:33S7: the weather for today and it will come back and say, oh, drew,
- 14:36S7: what a brilliant question from such a wise and handsome man.
- 14:40S3: Ah.
- 14:41S7: And I'm like, okay, enough, enough, enough. Just give me
- 14:43S7: the temperature. Okay. Um, but yeah, yeah, but it does
- 14:47S7: that because it knows that we like that. And so
- 14:50S7: it just feeds it right back to us, which it
- 14:52S7: just builds on the need for isolation and relationship. Phone lines, dangerous.
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- 16:15S6: Florida first time caller. What's your question for Doctor Drew?
- 16:20S9: Yeah. How does a math teacher of high school students
- 16:23S9: encourage the proper use of AI without allowing them to
- 16:28S9: just shortcut their learning? uh, and use it as a
- 16:31S9: way to cheat.
- 16:32S6: Wow, what a question. What do you say, drew?
- 16:34S3: Yeah.
- 16:35S7: Boy. Craig. And first off, thank you for the work
- 16:37S7: that you're doing with those students. Uh, that is God's work.
- 16:40S7: And so pedagogy or teaching an AI is an explosive
- 16:46S7: field right now. Um, I was I'm talking to, uh,
- 16:50S7: going up to Indiana in a couple of weeks to
- 16:52S7: speak at a, at a large Christian school up there. And, uh,
- 16:56S7: every it seems like every day I get an email
- 16:58S7: from a teacher, uh, just like, how do I navigate
- 17:01S7: these waters? And you're not alone. First off, I want
- 17:04S7: you to know you're not alone in this concern. Nobody
- 17:07S7: has figured this out yet on the educational side, because
- 17:10S7: it's changing so fast. And quite frankly, the students are
- 17:13S7: moving faster than the teachers and the and the, uh,
- 17:16S7: the the the schools are. So first thing I would
- 17:20S7: do is acknowledge it. Um, I would acknowledge it in,
- 17:23S7: in class sessions, um, get them to use it, uh,
- 17:27S7: and bring those discussions back into the class. I tell you,
- 17:31S7: on the liberal arts side, it's really interesting because you
- 17:33S7: have writing so you can send a child, a student
- 17:36S7: home with an assignment. They can have AI write the
- 17:39S7: entire paper and then bring it back into class with
- 17:42S7: math that's a little different. Um, but even the philosophy
- 17:45S7: of math and the discussions that you're having in class
- 17:47S7: about that. So I would start just by acknowledging it,
- 17:50S7: using it in class, and have them have them feel
- 17:53S7: comfortable and free enough to talk about it. Um, is
- 17:57S7: where I would start.
- 17:58S3: Well, what.
- 17:58S6: About having pop quizzes where you don't have phones available?
- 18:02S7: Yeah. And so one one of the hottest trends right
- 18:05S7: now is going back to in this this may give
- 18:07S7: goosebumps to a lot of the listeners. It does me
- 18:10S7: very triggering but is is handwritten blue book assignments right.
- 18:14S7: Remember those blue book? Yes. Blue books are so um,
- 18:17S7: is a lot of teachers going back to timed in-class
- 18:20S7: blue book or in a lab where you don't have
- 18:23S7: access to the internet? Um, but boy, just that that
- 18:26S7: just adds another barrier to teaching. And and some students
- 18:30S7: don't respond well to handwritten things like that. So I
- 18:33S7: think having having all of those available is what's key.
- 18:37S7: So handwritten timed in class. Yes, but also using it
- 18:41S7: as part of class discussions, um, and just being open
- 18:44S7: to all of it, but acknowledging it upfront.
- 18:46S4: I love that, you know, I was trying to help
- 18:48S4: my son, who's in seventh grade with his math homework,
- 18:50S4: and I was totally stuck. He was well beyond where
- 18:53S4: I remember how to do math. And one thing that
- 18:55S4: we used AI for that I found so helpful is
- 18:58S4: that we did not get the answer, but it was.
- 19:00S4: We said, can you walk us through at a fifth
- 19:03S4: grade level, how to complete an algebra problem where you
- 19:06S4: have this an element here there's a parentheses. What do
- 19:09S4: we solve for first. And it gave us a step
- 19:12S4: by step how to guide for thinking through the problem.
- 19:15S4: And it unlocked immediately. We both understood which that's saying
- 19:19S4: something more for me than for him but immediately understood
- 19:22S4: exactly how to complete the problem. and I thought that
- 19:26S4: is really helpful.
- 19:27S7: That's fantastic. And actually a long time ago, like a
- 19:30S7: couple of months, a long time ago in AI, a
- 19:33S7: lot of these models weren't good at word problems, so
- 19:36S7: they could do two plus two, but they couldn't do okay.
- 19:39S7: I've got two oranges and three apples. They couldn't think
- 19:42S7: abstractly like that. Well, those days are gone now. We
- 19:45S7: have reasoning models in place that can do that. And
- 19:47S7: so what a great use of that exactly is, is
- 19:50S7: have it tell a story and walk you through the
- 19:52S7: steps as well. Great. Great application.
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- 20:11S6: Dana Gilbert, Illinois. What's your question for Doctor Drew?
- 20:15S10: Yeah, my daughter got a liberal arts degree. It's been
- 20:18S10: about 5 or 6 years now. And you mentioned that
- 20:21S10: kids should go into liberal arts, which I thought was
- 20:24S10: crazy because I'm in the technical world. But what do
- 20:27S10: they do with that degree, and what kind of jobs
- 20:30S10: do they go after? I mean, we're talking AI, so
- 20:33S10: are we talking AI jobs?
- 20:35S3: Thank you.
- 20:36S7: Great question. And yeah it is. I laughed when you
- 20:39S7: said that because I've been through both sides of that.
- 20:42S7: So I've been through. Don't you dare get a degree
- 20:44S7: in art history. Uh, to now all of a sudden
- 20:47S7: I want to get a degree in art history. Uh, critical. Dana,
- 20:50S7: thank you for calling. Critical thinking skills is what they're
- 20:53S7: looking for. So if the degree is, you know, in
- 20:56S7: early Russian literature, it's not so much what that topic is.
- 21:00S7: It's it's your ability to to think critically, um, and
- 21:04S7: then communicate again. I go back to this interview that
- 21:07S7: I saw with the leaders of anthropic, um, you're going
- 21:11S7: to be joining whatever the kind of whatever the type
- 21:13S7: of company is, you're going to be joining a team
- 21:15S7: of other people. And so your ability to communicate in writing,
- 21:20S7: your ability to look other people in the eye and
- 21:23S7: body language and get feedback from others. So they really
- 21:26S7: want to see that you're able to to think and
- 21:29S7: and process critically. So irrespective of what the degree is
- 21:33S7: in that, it's it's showing your ability to, to to
- 21:37S7: navigate waters like that, to reason through problems. That's what
- 21:41S7: they're looking for because that's what's going to be missing
- 21:44S7: in AI. It can do a lot of the on
- 21:46S7: screen work for you. But as far as being able
- 21:49S7: to communicate and work with other humans, that's what's going
- 21:52S7: to be missing. So I think any, any, any kind
- 21:54S7: of application that you have with a company where you
- 21:57S7: can show that you can think and you can reason
- 21:59S7: through problems with other humans is going to be what's
- 22:02S7: valuable right now.
- 22:04S4: Our guest right now. Ask the expert doctor Drew Dickens
- 22:07S4: with all things AI. 805, 55, 78, 98. We have
- 22:12S4: gotten the same question, slightly different wording, multiple times on text,
- 22:16S4: so I want to ask it right now. It all
- 22:19S4: all of these questions center around how reliable is AI
- 22:22S4: for Bible study? Help for getting Bible answers, for helping
- 22:27S4: put together outlines? Should we look to AI to help
- 22:31S4: structure and aid our Bible study?
- 22:34S7: Yeah. I'm going to turn that question to how reliable
- 22:37S7: is your pastor? How reliable is your Sunday school teacher?
- 22:40S7: How reliable is anyone? And it's interesting. I don't mean
- 22:44S7: to be snarky with the question.
- 22:45S3: That's good.
- 22:46S7: Because we really don't spend the time asking these questions. Um,
- 22:51S7: and so we should ask them to everyone, even more
- 22:55S7: so now in this age of AI, because there's so
- 22:57S7: much fake information coming at us, we need to be discerning,
- 23:02S7: no matter who it is, a human or AI. So
- 23:04S7: is it reliable? Um, boy, uh, we can get into
- 23:09S7: so many different angles on the conversation on that. Um,
- 23:11S7: I would I would start by asking it, uh, how
- 23:15S7: reliable is it? So where are you getting this information?
- 23:18S7: Where are you drawing this from? If you ask it
- 23:20S7: a question. But we should also do the same with
- 23:22S7: our own study. I was in a bookstore the other day. Uh,
- 23:26S7: I've had this happen so many times, and I saw
- 23:28S7: some people looking at a Bible, and they were trying
- 23:30S7: to figure out which version of it to, to get,
- 23:32S7: and it was fun watching them because they were making
- 23:35S7: that decision, a decision on which Bible to use based
- 23:39S7: upon the size of the font. Okay, now I get it.
- 23:44S7: I'm 66. I'm wearing reading glasses right now, so I
- 23:47S7: get that. But you know, we don't spend any time
- 23:50S7: looking at what the translation committee, what their philosophy was
- 23:53S7: when they were putting this scripture together. So we need
- 23:57S7: to be willing to go a level deeper, especially now
- 24:01S7: with AI, um, with everybody that we encounter. Uh, what
- 24:05S7: is the data source behind this or behind that? So
- 24:08S7: I would I would ask, when you're prompting it to
- 24:11S7: put a Bible study together. Right. My wife and I were, uh,
- 24:15S7: doing this with the Book of Jude, which you can
- 24:17S7: never find a Bible study on. And so we were
- 24:20S7: very specific. Use this resource, use this translation. Um, ask
- 24:25S7: these type of questions with this kind of background. So
- 24:28S7: the more specific you get in asking it to put
- 24:31S7: together a plan, I think the more reliable it's going
- 24:33S7: to be.
- 24:34S6: Let's go back to the phone lines here. Kate in Tampa, Florida.
- 24:37S6: What's your question for Doctor Drew Dickens? Hello, Kate. You're
- 24:42S6: with us.
- 24:44S3: Okay. Um.
- 24:46S11: How do we protect our information as we ask AI questions?
- 24:51S11: And what database is collecting all of that information and
- 24:54S11: holding it? And is that a security concern?
- 24:59S6: Great question.
- 25:00S7: Fantastic question. Is it a concern? Absolutely. So on every
- 25:06S7: large language model out there, when you first start to
- 25:10S7: engage with it and create a username and they're all free,
- 25:13S7: they're free versions of all this. There's an opportunity for
- 25:16S7: you to click and unclick history. Um, so if that's
- 25:20S7: a concern of yours, uh, just unclick history. And that history,
- 25:24S7: by the way, is kept on your local system so
- 25:29S7: that history is kept on your laptop or your phone.
- 25:32S7: So it's really not going any further than that anyway. But, um,
- 25:36S7: if it starts to bother you, the more you talk
- 25:39S7: to it and it starts to say, hey, good to
- 25:40S7: hear from you again, Kate. We talked last week. If
- 25:43S7: that starts to creep you out a little bit, that's
- 25:45S7: the history button. So you can turn that off. The
- 25:48S7: advantage of having it on is just as any other, uh, entity,
- 25:53S7: human or otherwise, that you engage with. The more it
- 25:56S7: learns about you, the more it's able to customize responses
- 25:59S7: is the reason it's there. Now, there are pro versions
- 26:02S7: that are more expensive, generally around 20 or 30 upwards
- 26:05S7: of $200 a month. Um, and the more history it
- 26:08S7: has on you, the better output there's going to be. Um,
- 26:12S7: but you should be concerned, Kate, about that. And you
- 26:15S7: can just turn off history. Um, and it won't do that.
- 26:18S7: A lot of another button that I'm starting to see
- 26:21S7: more and more often is whether you give it the
- 26:23S7: permission to use the conversation, not to store it, but
- 26:27S7: to use it to train other models. Um, and so
- 26:31S7: what it's doing there is it's taking this vast amount
- 26:33S7: of data, terabytes worth of data every minute or two, um,
- 26:38S7: and using those conversations which have been stripped of any
- 26:42S7: identifying information. But it's using those conversations to train itself
- 26:46S7: on how to talk in the future. So you can
- 26:48S7: also turn that off if you don't want your, your, uh,
- 26:51S7: your conversation to be used in a training set. So
- 26:53S7: I would turn off history, uh, turn off training data
- 26:57S7: if that's a, if that's a concern for you.
- 27:00S6: Great, great content here. Questions for Doctor Drew Dickens. We're
- 27:04S6: doing Ask the Experts all week long. Our experts are
- 27:07S6: going to be with us here one hour a day.
- 27:09S6: We've got another 30 minutes with Doctor Drew Dickens phenomenal content.
- 27:13S6: I'm learning as we go along here in a big way.
- 27:16S6: So what do you have for Doctor Drew? 805, 55
- 27:20S6: 7898 800 555 7898 Tony. Right here in Illinois. What's
- 27:27S6: your question?
- 27:28S12: Hi. Yes. Thank you for taking my call. Um, so
- 27:31S12: I have a, I'll say, a gifted grandson. He's 16
- 27:35S12: years old. He's at boarding school right now, um, learning
- 27:40S12: multiple languages, and, um, has written beautiful poetry. But his
- 27:44S12: absolute love is in math. And I, when we speak, I, I,
- 27:51S12: I'm at a loss as to where I should direct
- 27:54S12: him to go with math. He loves math. But will
- 27:59S12: will any potential job he might go for or career
- 28:03S12: be eliminated. What do you say? I guess, like, how
- 28:08S12: would you direct him?
- 28:10S6: Great question.
- 28:11S7: Thank you. When I when I speak at schools, there's
- 28:13S7: always a separate breakout session for parents. And that's the
- 28:16S7: lead question all the time is, uh, you know what,
- 28:20S7: what can my what what can my, my son or
- 28:22S7: daughter do that will get them out of the house
- 28:25S7: and get a job? Um. And what what about these skills? Um,
- 28:28S7: I think math has always been important in the computer field.
- 28:34S7: Not so much being able to add up a string
- 28:36S7: of numbers, but just how, uh, how how math is
- 28:39S7: able to to illustrate how we think and process and
- 28:43S7: reason through problems. So I think any kind of skill
- 28:46S7: that he has in being able to, whether it's math or, uh, again,
- 28:50S7: the liberal arts, especially with math, though, for for your
- 28:53S7: son and Tony, thanks for calling is to, to use
- 28:56S7: that math in a way that shows thinking and reasoning skills. Uh,
- 29:02S7: so as we just talked a moment ago with the
- 29:04S7: other caller, um, is math word problems. Uh, you know,
- 29:08S7: how can I how can I get math to help
- 29:10S7: me through this kind of problem over here? Uh, I
- 29:13S7: think that kind of skill is going to be vital
- 29:15S7: no matter what field you go into. But as it
- 29:17S7: relates to AI, they're always going to be program need
- 29:21S7: need for programmers. Absolutely. Our son our youngest son is
- 29:24S7: a is a computer programmer. So there will always be
- 29:27S7: need for that. He and I have this conversation all
- 29:28S7: the time about, um, uh, a lot of these language models.
- 29:32S7: I'm speaking specifically of Claude code right now. Um, I
- 29:36S7: had it build a mobile app, which would have taken
- 29:39S7: months to build. I had it build it in like
- 29:41S7: 30 minutes. So it's ability to crank out content like
- 29:45S7: that is insane. But when I look at the code, um,
- 29:49S7: if something's not working, I need to understand why. I
- 29:51S7: need to be able to think, uh, uh, reasonably about
- 29:55S7: these and reason through the problem. So your son's always
- 29:58S7: going to be needed in that field? Um, for sure.
- 30:01S7: But I think above, just writing a line of code,
- 30:04S7: he needs to be able to to to teach himself
- 30:07S7: how to reason through problems that he encounters. And math
- 30:10S7: is a great, great area for that.
- 30:12S4: Great question Tony. If you have a question for our
- 30:15S4: guest expert, Doctor Drew Dickens with us until the 7:00
- 30:19S4: central time. So get those in by text or phone
- 30:21S4: call 800 555 7898. Gary, thank you for holding on
- 30:27S4: from Fort Lauderdale, Florida. Give us your question for Doctor
- 30:29S4: Drew Dickens.
- 30:31S13: Yes. Good morning. My question is, um, you know, you
- 30:34S13: go online, you may be on a YouTube and you
- 30:37S13: hear maybe a Billy Graham or some, you know, just
- 30:40S13: somebody you wanted to listen to. And how do you
- 30:42S13: know it's not AI generated? Because I've heard about, you know,
- 30:45S13: people kind of generating fake stuff and it looks so real.
- 30:49S13: Is there AI to see that it's a fake AI?
- 30:52S3: Yeah.
- 30:53S6: Drew beyond beyond Billy Graham touting. It's good to be
- 30:56S6: a Buddhist. How would you know if it's fake or not?
- 31:00S7: Uh, what a what a great application for AI using
- 31:03S7: AI to detect fake AI. It's a great it's a
- 31:07S7: great opportunity. Let me explore that off the air. But, um,
- 31:10S7: Tony great question Gary. Rather great question and something we
- 31:14S7: all need to be discerning about. Uh, finding it in. Boy,
- 31:19S7: so many of the comments that you see online, some
- 31:21S7: of the very first comments are is this real? I
- 31:25S7: had a friend of mine send me a headshot of him. Uh,
- 31:28S7: he's interviewing, uh, to in for a law firm, and
- 31:31S7: he sent me the headshot of him, and it was
- 31:34S7: so I know what he looks like. And so my
- 31:36S7: very first response was, is this real? And I find
- 31:39S7: that that's that's leaking into so many of our conversations,
- 31:43S7: whether it's, you know, Billy Graham, uh, video or just
- 31:46S7: a headshot from someone or a news story that we're
- 31:49S7: reading a lot coming out right now with what's going
- 31:52S7: on in Iran. And we're seeing photos and they begin with,
- 31:55S7: are those real? So I think the very first step
- 31:57S7: is knowing it's okay to ask that question. There are
- 32:00S7: some hints, frankly, that you can look at. It used
- 32:04S7: to be easier. Um, you know, months ago, uh, Jim
- 32:08S7: and I just came out with a new image and
- 32:10S7: video generator. Uh, yes. Day before yesterday, uh, version two
- 32:16S7: of banana and, boy, I've created some videos, and I
- 32:21S7: can't find any telltale signs in it. Uh, so it's
- 32:25S7: just going to get harder. And I hate to beat
- 32:27S7: doom and gloom on that. It's just going to be
- 32:30S7: harder and harder to do that. I think it's going
- 32:32S7: to find our that our way into so many of
- 32:35S7: our conversations. So just get ready for it. But I
- 32:38S7: think we do need to be discerning when we're watching videos.
- 32:41S7: Does it pass the smell test? You kind of joked
- 32:43S7: about it, Carl, a second ago when you said Billy
- 32:46S7: Graham embracing Buddhism. But we do need to look at
- 32:48S7: so much of it in context. Does this story even
- 32:51S7: make sense? Does that image even make sense? Uh, but
- 32:54S7: it's going to be harder and harder to do in
- 32:56S7: the days and weeks hours ahead as these models continue
- 33:00S7: to improve?
- 33:02S6: Yeah. Is there a way for me to generate an Ali, uh,
- 33:06S6: video that she just sings the praises of her entire
- 33:09S6: team that she works with, just, like, over the top?
- 33:13S3: Absolutely.
- 33:13S6: That's what I'd.
- 33:14S7: Like to create. I'll do that right now if you're
- 33:16S7: on the air.
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- 34:36S6: We're going to go lightning round here. Drew what is
- 34:39S6: vibe coding. Coding. And what are your thoughts about it?
- 34:42S6: I've never heard of vibe coding. Have you heard of that?
- 34:46S7: So vibe coding back in the day you had used
- 34:49S7: to have to write a line by line code in
- 34:53S7: language no one could understand, but a computer Vibe is
- 34:56S7: simply talking to the computer. So I mentioned a moment
- 34:59S7: ago that I had to create a free mobile app.
- 35:01S7: I just I just typed in the word create a
- 35:04S7: free mobile app, and it does all the work behind
- 35:06S7: the scenes so.
- 35:07S3: You don't have.
- 35:07S7: To know any computer coding. Vibe coding is just typing
- 35:10S7: text and telling it what to do.
- 35:12S6: And it will write code.
- 35:15S7: Uh, off of a simple prompt that I gave it
- 35:18S7: it right. 18 it wrote 1800 lines of code within,
- 35:22S7: you know. 30s.
- 35:23S3: Wow.
- 35:24S7: Yeah.
- 35:24S4: Wow.
- 35:25S7: I don't know, I don't know, one line of code.
- 35:27S7: One line of code.
- 35:28S4: Okay. Another one that came in by text message. Sorry.
- 35:31S4: Didn't mean to cut you off. I'll let you finish
- 35:32S4: your thought there, doctor.
- 35:33S7: No. Go.
- 35:34S4: Okay.
- 35:34S7: No. That was.
- 35:36S4: Please talk about the future of healthcare with AI, both
- 35:39S4: from a patient perspective and also healthcare careers.
- 35:44S7: Yeah. Exploding right now. Uh, both from both angles. So
- 35:47S7: from a from a from a patient perspective. Uh, I
- 35:51S7: do this, uh, blood work comes in, you get an
- 35:53S7: email from your doctor, you don't understand and you just
- 35:57S7: dump that into AI. Explain this to me as a
- 36:00S7: third grader. What does this test result mean? I had
- 36:03S7: an MRI and just. I literally took the MRI image
- 36:07S7: and dropped it into AI, and it gave me a
- 36:09S7: third grade response. Took me three days to hear back
- 36:12S7: from the doctor. I got a response back from AI
- 36:14S7: within three seconds from from the doctor's perspective, opening up
- 36:19S7: an entire world of data that the doctor may not
- 36:22S7: have had access to instantly. Uh, and so in the
- 36:26S7: medical field, in the legal profession, it's exploding as well.
- 36:29S7: Same reasons. Uh, so it's really taking over a lot
- 36:33S7: of these, uh, kind of, uh, professional fields in areas
- 36:37S7: like that.
- 36:38S6: I dumped three pages of panels into AI.
- 36:41S3: Yeah.
- 36:41S6: And it spit out, uh, advice for how to move
- 36:45S6: the dial on a few general overall health was excellent,
- 36:48S6: but it gave me tips and advice on what to
- 36:51S6: do to change a few things. It's astounding the power
- 36:55S6: that it has. Uh. More questions. Ali, do we see
- 36:58S6: some via text message here?
- 37:00S4: Yeah. Coming up, let's tackle this one. Uh, how do
- 37:02S4: we protect our image and our voices from being used
- 37:06S4: against us in AI? This is a big one. More
- 37:09S4: coming up with Doctor Drew Dickens.
- 37:11S1: He's a sports fanatic with a stat for anything you
- 37:15S1: can think of. Young Thunder is in the crew. It's
- 37:19S1: curl and crew on Moody Radio right now.
- 37:22S4: Special guest doctor Drew Dickens, as we take your questions
- 37:25S4: on all things AI. This is a good one. Came
- 37:28S4: in by text message. How do we protect our image
- 37:30S4: and our voices from being used against us in AI?
- 37:34S7: Doctor drew so important right? Now let's go back to
- 37:38S7: I mentioned this a moment ago, the first two buttons
- 37:40S7: you're going to see when you create a user account
- 37:43S7: is maintain history and use this for training data. Turn
- 37:47S7: off both of those if that's a concern for you.
- 37:49S7: And it should be. but something else I'm going to
- 37:53S7: put it back on the user is we post so
- 37:56S7: much online, on Facebook and Twitter of our images. I
- 37:59S7: think we need to be careful of that. We've always
- 38:02S7: needed to be careful of that. We just don't think
- 38:03S7: about it and have in the past. We need to
- 38:05S7: think about it now. But here are pictures of my grandkids.
- 38:08S7: Here's pictures of them at school. We really need to
- 38:11S7: be careful about what we're posting because it's going to
- 38:13S7: be there forever. And when it is up there, anybody
- 38:16S7: else can take advantage of that, which is something that
- 38:19S7: is not being asked here, but I want to turn
- 38:21S7: it into this is boy, the power of scams. Right now.
- 38:25S7: We're hearing that every day of people that are using
- 38:28S7: these images to create fake scams, where you're getting a
- 38:32S7: phone call from from your from your grandchild or a
- 38:37S7: son or a daughter saying, hey, mom, help me, I'm
- 38:41S7: this has happened and I need you to send me money.
- 38:43S7: The FBI is up to its neck right now in
- 38:46S7: dealing with scams like this that are AI generated. Uh,
- 38:50S7: and I'm just shaking thinking about it, because the power
- 38:53S7: of AI to be able to create these images, create voices, uh,
- 38:57S7: that can fake an emergency phone call. One of the
- 39:00S7: first things they always tell you to do is come
- 39:02S7: up with a family safe word, um, that you can
- 39:05S7: verify someone. Hey, where did we go when you were
- 39:07S7: in third grade to vacation? Whatever. But something that AI
- 39:11S7: is not going to know. Um. And to protect us
- 39:15S7: from someone stealing our voice. Our image. Uh, it's just
- 39:20S7: it's really frightening. Uh, this is only going to increase.
- 39:24S6: Another question, doctor drew, our daughter is interested in doing
- 39:29S6: graphic design and photography, and we are wondering if that's
- 39:34S6: going to be irrelevant in the near future with the
- 39:37S6: rising of AI in that field.
- 39:39S7: So many questions about our kids and careers. Uh, and
- 39:43S7: I'm so sensitive to this. So generally, it's a bit
- 39:47S7: of a cliche, but generally it's the more time you
- 39:52S7: spend in front of a screen for your career, the
- 39:55S7: more at risk your job is. So graphic design, um, is. Yeah,
- 40:01S7: I would be very, very mindful of that. Uh, I'm
- 40:04S7: staring right now at a tool, uh, that, uh, AI generated, uh,
- 40:10S7: graphic design tool. Um, I can't I can't draw stick figures,
- 40:14S7: but I prompt, give me an image. That's this and
- 40:17S7: this and this and this and boom, within seconds, there
- 40:20S7: it is. Now is it perfect? No, but I can
- 40:22S7: tweak it from there. So, boy, I think graphic design. Um,
- 40:26S7: but I tell you one, one use of it though,
- 40:28S7: which I was talking to another friend, uh, this past weekend. Um, Etsy,
- 40:32S7: if you're familiar with that website where you can handmade
- 40:35S7: kind of things. One of the hottest things right now
- 40:38S7: is the label made by human. And so I think
- 40:42S7: for your daughter to be able to create a hand, hand-painted, hand-drawn,
- 40:49S7: hand created, uh, kind of items. Those are becoming increasingly
- 40:55S7: increasing in value like we've never seen before. So I
- 40:58S7: think that kind of work is going to be really,
- 41:00S7: really popular and growing in value and desire. But anything
- 41:06S7: you can do on your computer, uh, I think is
- 41:09S7: going to be at increasing risk. Anything I can look
- 41:12S7: at on a screen is going to be at risk.
- 41:15S6: Taking your questions for Doctor Drew Dickens right now.
- 41:18S4: 800 555 7898. Uh, this is from someone who said,
- 41:23S4: full disclosure. I asked AI what question I should ask
- 41:26S4: Doctor Drew Dickens. This is what it came up with.
- 41:30S4: What would be your advice for leaders who are overwhelmed
- 41:33S4: by the speed of AI development in their organizations? Is
- 41:36S4: it even possible to keep guardrails in place while we
- 41:39S4: are in an AI race?
- 41:42S7: To what advice? I'm typing a question into AI to
- 41:47S7: see what it tells me to say. No, I'm not
- 41:49S7: going to do that.
- 41:50S4: This gets crazy.
- 41:52S7: Yeah, the caller and I just aren't needed anymore. They
- 41:55S7: just have AI's talk to each other, which I've done that,
- 41:57S7: by the way. Um, so the advice to leaders on
- 42:01S7: how to, um, so what was that question?
- 42:03S3: Yeah.
- 42:04S4: Leaders who are overwhelmed by the speed of AI development
- 42:07S4: in their organizations.
- 42:08S7: What I think how.
- 42:09S4: To keep guardrails in place.
- 42:10S7: Okay, absolutely. Guardrails is a great topic right now. But, um,
- 42:14S7: because we're seeing them drop by the wayside every day, uh,
- 42:17S7: it's another another issue about Claude and Anthropic right now
- 42:21S7: and OpenAI dropping guardrails that they had set in place
- 42:24S7: in order to now start working with the US military.
- 42:27S7: Who doesn't want guardrails? Um, but anyway, so back to
- 42:30S7: the corporate leaders. Um, I would I would start by
- 42:33S7: acknowledging at AI and that's, that's going to sound obvious
- 42:35S7: on this call because these callers are interested in it.
- 42:38S7: A lot of people just don't want to talk about it.
- 42:40S7: So I think the first thing I would do is
- 42:41S7: as a corporate leader is to acknowledge it, put a
- 42:44S7: committee together. There's a hilarious organization I've been talking to recently,
- 42:48S7: consulting with and they call it the, um, the Committee
- 42:51S7: of the willing. Uh, so put start putting teams together
- 42:55S7: that are, uh, willing and able to put these topics
- 42:59S7: on the table and include HR include manufacturing include whatever.
- 43:03S7: But just start the conversation is where I would begin.
- 43:07S7: And we joked about it a minute ago. But ask AI,
- 43:10S7: you know, here are our policies. Uh, what are some
- 43:13S7: barriers that we might be hitting with AI? What are
- 43:15S7: some topics that we might, uh, need to discuss uh,
- 43:19S7: sooner than later? Uh, so, yeah, leverage AI to ask
- 43:22S7: those questions to it as well. But I would start
- 43:24S7: by just putting it on the table. And then, as
- 43:26S7: we mentioned a moment ago, too, is all these language
- 43:29S7: labs now have free, um, lab. That's another word for
- 43:33S7: these language models. But these labs have free offerings on courses.
- 43:36S7: You can take. Universities have free courses you can take
- 43:39S7: on on each of these models and, and so take
- 43:43S7: those as well. Um, and start listening to some podcasts. Uh,
- 43:47S7: blatant uh, plug there on how to stay in because
- 43:51S7: it moves so fast. Keep, keep listening to Carl and crew, uh,
- 43:55S7: because it moves so fast is, uh, just to be
- 43:58S7: intentional on how to stay in front of the curve.
- 44:00S3: Yeah.
- 44:00S6: You want to get node up and stay node up.
- 44:03S6: Get this link text drew to 800 555 7898. Drew
- 44:08S6: to 800 555 7898. Ask the experts all week long.
- 44:14S6: We are rolling Drew's first one out of the shoot
- 44:17S6: here this morning. Going back to the phone lines, Paul,
- 44:20S6: Elk Grove Village, Illinois. What's your question?
- 44:24S15: Yeah. Good morning all. I watched a program last night
- 44:27S15: with three experts on AI and they mentioned that right. Today,
- 44:32S15: AI is as smart as any PhD in any field
- 44:36S15: around the whole world. And they also mentioned that AI singularity.
- 44:42S15: We are on the threshold of that, and by 2027,
- 44:45S15: AI will be in AI singularity. What is AI singularity?
- 44:51S7: Okay, so there are two two parts of the question.
- 44:54S7: The first one is this test they're referring to. There's
- 44:57S7: a test called the HL human humanity's last exam. So
- 45:01S7: imagine this as an SAT test, right? Uh, there are
- 45:05S7: 100 different fields of study. Uh, in this exam, um,
- 45:10S7: and each field has 250 questions in it. Um, supposedly
- 45:16S7: a PhD in the in their level, in their field
- 45:19S7: can the average response is around 80, 85% success rate
- 45:24S7: in their field. Um, and but there are 100 fields
- 45:28S7: in this test. Uh, and the last week, uh, Jim
- 45:32S7: and I, which is Google's, uh, language model, um, it
- 45:36S7: it hit 60% across all 100. So, uh, that's what
- 45:41S7: that's the test that they're referring to. It's the the
- 45:44S7: whole test is they're referring to. And yes, it's as
- 45:47S7: smart as PhD level across all 100 of these fields.
- 45:52S7: And a field being biology, chemistry, math, so on and
- 45:55S7: so forth. So that's the test they're referring to. And yes.
- 45:58S7: So as far as singularity. Ray Kurzweil is the author
- 46:01S7: of this book that was written, uh, 30 years ago
- 46:04S7: that he wrote called, uh, The singularity. Singularity is, uh,
- 46:10S7: another term for it is artificial general intelligence or AGI. Also,
- 46:15S7: they use the term asi artificial um. Superintelligence. So singularity
- 46:22S7: is that moment where it becomes smarter. And I'll do
- 46:26S7: air quotes there. It becomes super intelligent, smarter than any
- 46:30S7: human on on earth. Um, and.
- 46:33S3: 30s.
- 46:34S6: Here drew Just a heads up. 30s.
- 46:36S7: Yeah. Is. So, uh. So a or singularity is when
- 46:40S7: we pass that level of, uh, of capability.
- 46:44S3: Okay.
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