Latest / Stugotz and Company / Set 1: Mount Rushmore of Double Play Tandems (w/ Tim Kurkjian)
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Yeah, that.
- 0:02Speaker 2: Chuck Norris was chasing the Tyrannosaurus Rex. The rex was
- 0:06Speaker 2: not chasing the jeep. Murray, Murray, you there. You love sandwiches. Huh,
- 0:11Speaker 2: let's go to eighty.
- 0:13Speaker 3: He was bo.
- 0:16Speaker 2: Wow that Prime Time. Maybe I had a crush on
- 0:18Speaker 2: Betty Rubbell.
- 0:19Speaker 4: I honestly, until after the segment ended and we went
- 0:22Speaker 4: to commercial break, had no idea that Jonathan Coachman was black.
- 0:25Speaker 2: He caught them the game last night, although they won
- 0:28Speaker 2: the game.
- 0:29Speaker 4: You're listening just to Godsend Company. Today is a great day.
- 0:33Speaker 4: You want to know why, Mikeya. It's a great day
- 0:38Speaker 4: because we get to speak to Tim Kirschin. What a
- 0:41Speaker 4: great day baseball is right around the corner.
- 0:44Speaker 2: That is fantastic. Is this a great game or what?
- 0:47Speaker 4: That's the podcast he does with his son Tim right
- 0:50Speaker 4: before you came on. It's good to see you, by
- 0:51Speaker 4: the way, even though you can't see us, And don't
- 0:54Speaker 4: touch a button because you might mess up the zoom here.
- 0:56Speaker 2: I don't want you to do that.
- 0:57Speaker 4: But Mikeya was telling me his top three day definitive,
- 1:00Speaker 4: top three defensive pitchers. Strange place to start here, Timmy,
- 1:04Speaker 4: but his top three defensive pitchers definitive, he said, are
- 1:08Speaker 4: Jim Cott, Greg Maddox, and Mike Musina.
- 1:11Speaker 2: Is he right or is he wrong?
- 1:15Speaker 1: That's a pretty good list.
- 1:18Speaker 5: I would first off, Greg Maddox is first, Okay, Jim
- 1:22Speaker 5: Cott is second.
- 1:24Speaker 1: I will argue this all day long. One and two.
- 1:28Speaker 5: There's nobody else in the top two. Mike Messina was great,
- 1:33Speaker 5: by the way. He was a great basketball player and
- 1:36Speaker 5: a great football player in high school.
- 1:38Speaker 1: And he's like a scratch golfer.
- 1:40Speaker 5: So pitchers are really good athletes for the most part.
- 1:44Speaker 5: So I would have Maddox. I mean, I would have
- 1:47Speaker 5: maybe Messina. Mark Burley's in there. Rangers Suarez now with
- 1:52Speaker 5: the Rangers is a wizard on balls.
- 1:55Speaker 1: Hit back at him.
- 1:57Speaker 5: And this goes way way back to a guy who
- 2:00Speaker 5: never even heard of, but Jack Lozorko, who is a
- 2:03Speaker 5: friend of a friend who I met in eighty two
- 2:06Speaker 5: with the Rangers, he was one of the best fielding
- 2:09Speaker 5: pitchers I've ever seen, and it was in part because
- 2:12Speaker 5: he was a great hockey goalie. So he used to
- 2:16Speaker 5: have kicksaves on the mound all the time because he
- 2:20Speaker 5: was used to being a hockey goalie, and then became
- 2:24Speaker 5: a major League pitcher was a great I'm gonna say
- 2:29Speaker 5: that Ranger Suarez is the third best fielding pitcher that
- 2:33Speaker 5: I've seen, but Maddox is first. And just quickly on
- 2:36Speaker 5: this fellas. As you know, he never threw a pitch
- 2:40Speaker 5: straight to home plate unless he wanted to. Everything had
- 2:44Speaker 5: great natural movement. And yet Walt Weiss, who played with
- 2:49Speaker 5: him in Atlanta as a shortstop, told me on the
- 2:52Speaker 5: one six' three double play pitcher catch a grounder throws
- 2:56Speaker 5: to second on to, First he, Said Greg maddox the
- 3:00Speaker 5: most perfect four seam straight ball to second base of
- 3:04Speaker 5: any picture he's ever. Seen so it just speaks to
- 3:07Speaker 5: how Great Greg maddox was where he would just change
- 3:11Speaker 5: the grip and throw a perfect four seemer to, second
- 3:15Speaker 5: which he often didn't do to the plate because he
- 3:18Speaker 5: didn't want. To and as For Jim, cott a couple
- 3:22Speaker 5: of years ago Confirmed Jim cott is such a great.
- 3:26Speaker 5: Athlete he shot his age he was like. Eighty he
- 3:30Speaker 5: shot his age twice in golf in one. Week and
- 3:34Speaker 5: he did one. Time he did it playing left handed
- 3:38Speaker 5: and then he did it playing right.
- 3:40Speaker 1: Handed, wow he broke eighty at age.
- 3:45Speaker 5: Eighty he shot his age twice in a, week one
- 3:49Speaker 5: left handed and one right. Handed so if you want
- 3:52Speaker 5: to know how great an Athlete Jim cott, was that
- 3:55Speaker 5: tells it.
- 3:55Speaker 4: All who was tim of all the pictures In Major
- 3:59Speaker 4: League baseballit was It?
- 4:00Speaker 2: Cod was it? You who was the greatest athlete of
- 4:03Speaker 2: all the pitchers Major League? Baseball was there someone you're
- 4:05Speaker 2: not thinking of?
- 4:05Speaker 5: Here, No Bob gibson might be the best athlete ever
- 4:11Speaker 5: to pitch in the major. Leagues And i'm Sure i'm
- 4:13Speaker 5: leaving someone out, here but you, Know Bob gibson played
- 4:18Speaker 5: basketball At. Creighton he also played for The Harlem. Globetrotters
- 4:23Speaker 5: he was a great hitting, pitcher he was a great fielding.
- 4:28Speaker 5: Pitcher so he's got to be in the. DISCUSSION i
- 4:31Speaker 5: would say That Bob gibson is the best athlete ever to,
- 4:37Speaker 5: play ever to pitch in the major. Leagues And i'll
- 4:40Speaker 5: tell you a quick. Story Johnny bench told. Me this
- 4:43Speaker 5: is how Great Bob gibson was as a. Pitcher Johnny
- 4:46Speaker 5: bench gets to the big, leagues but before, that his.
- 4:49Speaker 1: Dad johnny's dad used To johnny's dad was a good.
- 4:52Speaker 5: Player he used to always tell his Son, johnny who
- 4:56Speaker 5: they knew was going to the big. Leagues as a
- 4:58Speaker 5: high school, kid you would say watching, games he would,
- 5:01Speaker 5: SAY i can hit that, guy major league. PITCHER i
- 5:04Speaker 5: can hit that guy like, That And johnny would, go, yeah, sure.
- 5:07Speaker 5: Dad his dad was a good. Player So johnny goes
- 5:09Speaker 5: to the big. Leagues he Faces Bob gibson the first
- 5:12Speaker 5: time as a nineteen year. Old he strikes out the
- 5:15Speaker 5: first two at. Bats third at, bat he strikes out.
- 5:18Speaker 5: Again he walks back to the dugout And Dave, bristol
- 5:23Speaker 5: the crusty old manager of The, reds Sees Johnny bench
- 5:27Speaker 5: literally laughing out, loud and he says To Johnny, bench
- 5:31Speaker 5: what is so? Funny you just struck out for the
- 5:34Speaker 5: third time in a. Row And Johnny bench, said my
- 5:37Speaker 5: dad could never hit that guy.
- 5:42Speaker 3: So.
- 5:43Speaker 4: Good i've never Seen taylor pay so close attention to
- 5:46Speaker 4: anything in his.
- 5:46Speaker 2: Life, Jesus.
- 5:50Speaker 5: Bob gibson is the most ferocious, picture ferocious picture That
- 5:55Speaker 5: i've ever seen in my.
- 5:56Speaker 1: Life and he is the last guy you want to mess.
- 5:59Speaker 3: With.
- 5:59Speaker 6: Yep, well me having the first two correct and Then
- 6:03Speaker 6: Mike messina being in. There i'm just gonna. Say Tim
- 6:06Speaker 6: kirchin SAID i was, Right And tim for years working AT,
- 6:09Speaker 6: espn we take your word as gospel with everything. Baseball
- 6:13Speaker 6: but one time you said something that is the only
- 6:16Speaker 6: Time i've ever disagreed with, you And i'm going to
- 6:18Speaker 6: give you a chance right.
- 6:19Speaker 4: Now you better be're telling you right, now be CAMPL
- 6:22Speaker 4: i side With Tim.
- 6:23Speaker 2: KIRCHIN i don't care what the fucking argument. IS i
- 6:25Speaker 2: side With.
- 6:25Speaker 6: Kirchin they were ranking the best pitches in, baseball and
- 6:31Speaker 6: ahead Of Mariano rivera's, cutter you had you baldo Him
- 6:35Speaker 6: menez his, fastball AND i just want to know right,
- 6:38Speaker 6: now was that a prisoner of the moment thing or
- 6:41Speaker 6: is that or Does Tim kirchin still believe you baldo
- 6:44Speaker 6: him andez his heavy fastball was better Than Marianna rivera's.
- 6:47Speaker 2: Put you on the spot to, Me oh my, god WELL.
- 6:50Speaker 1: I must have been drunk WHEN i said, that because
- 6:53Speaker 1: it Is you're never. Drunk Baldo.
- 6:55Speaker 5: Jmenez Baldo jimenez had an amazing first half of season years,
- 7:01Speaker 5: ago and people were actually saying he has a pitch
- 7:05Speaker 5: that nobody has ever seen before and ever thrown, before
- 7:10Speaker 5: to WHICH i was sitting With Oral herscheizer at the,
- 7:13Speaker 5: time who knows a little bit about Pitching he looked
- 7:15Speaker 5: at me and he, goes, tim there is no pitch
- 7:18Speaker 5: that is being thrown today that has never been thrown.
- 7:21Speaker 5: Before so IF i said, THAT i was wrong by
- 7:27Speaker 5: one hundred.
- 7:27Speaker 1: Miles that guy had great.
- 7:29Speaker 5: Stuff But mariano's cutter is arguably the greatest pitch because
- 7:34Speaker 5: it's really the only pitch he. Threw he's the greatest
- 7:36Speaker 5: closer of all. Time there is not a close. SECOND
- 7:40Speaker 5: i will tell, you, though That Paul richards the one
- 7:43Speaker 5: of the great baseball men of all. TIME i really
- 7:45Speaker 5: got to know him in eighty two when he was
- 7:47Speaker 5: with The rangers as the assistant general. Manager he told
- 7:51Speaker 5: me That Hoyt wilhelm's knuckleball was the greatest pitch in
- 7:57Speaker 5: the history of. Baseball as he, said the umpire couldn't
- 8:02Speaker 5: call it the ump the catcher couldn't catch, it and
- 8:06Speaker 5: the hitter couldn't hit it When Hoyt wilhelm threw his great.
- 8:10Speaker 5: Knuckleball but SINCE i never saw that LIKE i Saw,
- 8:13Speaker 5: MARIANO'S i will Say mariano's cutter is the best pitch
- 8:18Speaker 5: in the history of. BASEBALL i stand. CORRECTED i don't
- 8:21Speaker 5: ever remember saying.
- 8:22Speaker 1: That IF i, DID.
- 8:24Speaker 4: I APOLOGIZE i mean this. VULTURE I, Hey, jesus he
- 8:27Speaker 4: said it in the, Moment who? CARES i, Mean, tim
- 8:29Speaker 4: when was the last time you were? Hammered have you
- 8:31Speaker 4: ever been? Hammered, yes of COURSE i.
- 8:36Speaker 5: Have i'm a grown, man but it's been a long.
- 8:39Speaker 5: Time it Doesn't it doesn't do me any. GOOD i
- 8:42Speaker 5: weigh one hundred and forty. POUNDS i CAN'T i can't hold.
- 8:46Speaker 5: ANYTHING i get buzzed very, easily which is WHY i
- 8:49Speaker 5: don't drink very, often because it doesn't do me any.
- 8:51Speaker 5: Good but and my voice goes to a different octave
- 8:54Speaker 5: WHEN i get that, way and it's already at a
- 8:57Speaker 5: preposterously high octave to begin, with SO i try to
- 9:01Speaker 5: stay away from.
- 9:01Speaker 3: It. TIM i first, OFF i just want to SAY
- 9:06Speaker 3: i love.
- 9:06Speaker 6: YOU i love.
- 9:07Speaker 3: Baseball consider myself in the same mold of just somebody
- 9:11Speaker 3: who loves. Baseball growing, up my girlfriend asked me what
- 9:15Speaker 3: DID i want to do on my? BIRTHDAY i told
- 9:17Speaker 3: HER i want tickets to The World Baseball classic AND
- 9:19Speaker 3: i want to watch sixty. One where would you say
- 9:22Speaker 3: sixty one ranks as a baseball movie, because in my,
- 9:25Speaker 3: opinion one of the most underrated baby great?
- 9:27Speaker 5: Quests, yeah all, right it is the second greatest baseball
- 9:34Speaker 5: movie of all.
- 9:35Speaker 1: Time, wow The field Of.
- 9:37Speaker 5: Dreams field Of dreams is one and always will. Be
- 9:41Speaker 5: and without sounding corny about, this that story was about
- 9:44Speaker 5: a father and a, son and nobody loved his father
- 9:48Speaker 5: more THAN i. Did he taught me EVERYTHING i needed
- 9:51Speaker 5: to know about baseball and everything. ELSE i took my
- 9:55Speaker 5: father to see that. Movie we cried like. BABIES i
- 9:58Speaker 5: cry every TIME i watch. It so that will always
- 10:01Speaker 5: be the best baseball movie of all time for. Me
- 10:05Speaker 5: but sixty one was tremendous because of its attention to.
- 10:10Speaker 5: Details so speaking Of Hoit, Wilhelm Billy Crystal God Tom
- 10:14Speaker 5: candiotti to Play Hoyt wilhelm in the, movie And Tom,
- 10:20Speaker 5: candiotti a knuckleball, pitcher just been released and he was
- 10:25Speaker 5: pissed about just being. Released so he comes to the
- 10:29Speaker 5: movie shooting And billy says to him That, TOM i
- 10:32Speaker 5: want this has to be the most genuine. Movie SO
- 10:35Speaker 5: i want you to throw your best knuckleball no matter.
- 10:39Speaker 5: What so you, Know, Billy Tommy zaane whatever his name
- 10:44Speaker 5: is in the, SHOW i forget which one Was mickey
- 10:46Speaker 5: and which Was.
- 10:47Speaker 1: Roger sorry about.
- 10:48Speaker 5: THAT i love that Movie So Tom candiotti is now
- 10:52Speaker 5: throwing his knuckleball as they're, filming and the first fifty
- 10:57Speaker 5: knuckleballs that he, Throws Tommy, Jane i'm, sorry couldn't hit.
- 11:04Speaker 1: It he couldn't hit. It he couldn't even.
- 11:05Speaker 5: Come close because neither could, you, guys and neither COULD.
- 11:09Speaker 1: I it's a.
- 11:09Speaker 5: Knuckleball So billy has to come to the. Mound Tommy,
- 11:14Speaker 5: JANE i think that's his. Name Sorry jane played. Mantle, yes,
- 11:18Speaker 5: Sorry so he comes to The billy comes to the
- 11:21Speaker 5: mound during the filming and, Says, tom, okay we have
- 11:24Speaker 5: a problem. Here it's called it's called. Tape we don't
- 11:29Speaker 5: have enough tape for you to keep throwing. Knuckleball so
- 11:31Speaker 5: throw like a softer, knuckleball one that he might.
- 11:34Speaker 1: Hit so he throws like twenty of.
- 11:36Speaker 5: Those he still can't hit, it and then he Hits
- 11:39Speaker 5: Tommy jane with a pitch.
- 11:41Speaker 1: And, Knocks and now the entire crew has.
- 11:45Speaker 5: Run out thinking That tom Candiot and killed the star
- 11:49Speaker 5: of the show because he hit him with a. Pitch
- 11:51Speaker 5: So Tommy jane is lying there And Tom candiotty looks
- 11:55Speaker 5: down at him and, SAYS i threw that pitch at
- 11:59Speaker 5: fifteen miles an, hour And Tommy jane said that MEANS
- 12:03Speaker 5: i should get up, Right and he, said, yeah you
- 12:06Speaker 5: should get up.
- 12:07Speaker 2: Now so he.
- 12:09Speaker 5: Saved the day by throwing a softer, knuckleball but he
- 12:14Speaker 5: never did put the ball in. Play all they needed
- 12:17Speaker 5: was a ball put in, play and he couldn't do.
- 12:20Speaker 5: It so Finally Billy, crystal using the magic of, photography
- 12:24Speaker 5: rolled the ball up the first baseline and made it
- 12:27Speaker 5: look like he actually hit it when he really. Didn't
- 12:31Speaker 5: that's another REASON i love sixty one because it was
- 12:34Speaker 5: just so.
- 12:35Speaker 1: Authentic, wow what an answer For.
- 12:37Speaker 2: TAYLOR i, mean he's swigging a mountain dew after.
- 12:42Speaker 3: That consider that About consider that a late birthday presence, Too.
- 12:47Speaker 2: Yes, yes happy, birthday not a mountain.
- 12:50Speaker 1: Dew, sorry what was? It i'm, sorry it's a diet mountain.
- 12:54Speaker 1: Dew i'm, sorry mountain.
- 12:55Speaker 5: Dew there's a Different, No, no just just. Clarifying that's thank.
- 13:00Speaker 2: You you're lashing out at, me THOUGH i love. YOU i,
- 13:02Speaker 2: mean tim you love baseball more than. ANYONE i know
- 13:08Speaker 2: you care about this.
- 13:09Speaker 4: Game you know the game better than, anyone And i'm
- 13:12Speaker 4: certain that the thought of a workstopage drives you, Crazy but.
- 13:17Speaker 2: Are we headed towards.
- 13:17Speaker 4: One let me ask it this, Way, tim do you
- 13:20Speaker 4: think there should be a salary cap At Major League?
- 13:22Speaker 4: Baseball and do you think we'll ever arrive at a
- 13:25Speaker 4: place where we have a salary cap In Major League?
- 13:27Speaker 2: Baseball All?
- 13:30Speaker 5: RIGHT i don't think we're gonna have a salary cap anytime.
- 13:35Speaker 5: Soon if you can prove to me that a salary
- 13:39Speaker 5: cap will make the game, better THEN i will be on.
- 13:43Speaker 1: Board But i'm not.
- 13:44Speaker 5: Sold on, That, Okay Stu gott's COVERED i covered the
- 13:49Speaker 5: eighty one strike that was forty five years, ago and
- 13:53Speaker 5: we're still arguing pretty much about the same. Thing, yes
- 13:57Speaker 5: and if the owners think that the players are going
- 14:00Speaker 5: to agree to a salary, cap they are. Mistaken and
- 14:06Speaker 5: if they hold out until they get a salary, cap
- 14:09Speaker 5: we will definitely have a work stoppage in twenty twenty,
- 14:12Speaker 5: seven and who knows how long it could.
- 14:15Speaker 1: LAST i spoke to someone.
- 14:16Speaker 5: The other day who would probably know better than a
- 14:20Speaker 5: lot of people where we, are and he, SAID i
- 14:22Speaker 5: have never seen the two sides this far apart with,
- 14:29Speaker 5: eight ten eleven months away from where.
- 14:32Speaker 1: We have to get.
- 14:33Speaker 5: To SO i was very discouraged to hear THAT i
- 14:37Speaker 5: want no part of a work. Stoppage baseball should want
- 14:41Speaker 5: no part of a work. Stoppage but at the moment
- 14:44Speaker 5: it is not looking.
- 14:45Speaker 3: Good Tim nobody would ARGUE i don't think that The
- 14:49Speaker 3: dodgers are the best team on paper this season as
- 14:52Speaker 3: we get closer to Opening. Day but who would you
- 14:54Speaker 3: argue as the second best team in? Baseball that is
- 15:00Speaker 3: a great.
- 15:00Speaker 5: Question, YES i think The phillies have a chance to
- 15:04Speaker 5: be really, good but a few things have to turn
- 15:08Speaker 5: that As Zach wheeler has to come back earlier and then
- 15:10Speaker 5: expected and then be great the whole.
- 15:12Speaker 1: Year that's a lot to.
- 15:14Speaker 5: Ask i'm not sure there is a great team in
- 15:18Speaker 5: The American. League BUT i just Saw seattle and The
- 15:24Speaker 5: mariners pitching is so so good starting pitching, especially and
- 15:29Speaker 5: they added to their, lineup so they might be the
- 15:31Speaker 5: best team in The American. League AND i just saw The,
- 15:34Speaker 5: tigers and The tigers have really good starting pitching led
- 15:39Speaker 5: By Trek scooble and now From. Orvaldez SO i would,
- 15:43Speaker 5: say right now it would be it would be The,
- 15:47Speaker 5: phillies The, tigers or The. Mariners SO i have to pick.
- 15:50Speaker 5: One i'll Say seattle is the second best team in
- 15:54Speaker 5: baseball right?
- 15:55Speaker 4: Now, tim how do you feel about what The mets
- 15:58Speaker 4: did here in the? Offseason that's get a lot Better.
- 16:04Speaker 1: They'll.
- 16:04Speaker 5: Be they'll be a lot better than last year when
- 16:07Speaker 5: they were obviously a. Disappointment it does worry me a
- 16:12Speaker 5: little bit for their sake that they have added so
- 16:15Speaker 5: many new.
- 16:16Speaker 1: People to the. Team it's going to take a little
- 16:19Speaker 1: while to figure.
- 16:21Speaker 5: Out if you, Know polanco can play first base And
- 16:25Speaker 5: Boba schett can play third.
- 16:27Speaker 1: Base and how injured Is Francisco.
- 16:29Speaker 5: Lindor he says he'll be back on Opening, day but
- 16:32Speaker 5: that hammate bone is a tricky. SITUATION a new center
- 16:36Speaker 5: fielder In Luis, Roberts SO i just don't know IF
- 16:41Speaker 5: i think they have a real chance to be a
- 16:44Speaker 5: playoff team in The National. League so that makes them
- 16:47Speaker 5: better than last. YEAR i just worry when it comes
- 16:50Speaker 5: to corny things like. Chemistry did they add too many?
- 16:53Speaker 5: Pieces are all the pieces going to fit together at
- 16:56Speaker 5: the right?
- 16:56Speaker 1: Time that's WHERE i think we are.
- 16:58Speaker 2: With The, Mets stegotts.
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- 19:03Speaker 8: correct in RETIRING Cc sabbathia's.
- 19:06Speaker 6: Jersey taylor is a little more against, it AND i
- 19:09Speaker 6: think THAT cec has earned. It where do you stand on?
- 19:12Speaker 5: IT i would SAY i air most of the time on,
- 19:19Speaker 5: yes retire somebody's, number and number fifty two is not
- 19:23Speaker 5: anything that anybody really wants to. Wear he's the best
- 19:25Speaker 5: number fifty two of all, time by the, WAY i
- 19:30Speaker 5: THINK i THINK i would say. YES i think The
- 19:33Speaker 5: yankees should retire his. Number LIKE i, said when in,
- 19:37Speaker 5: DOUBT i would say. Yes and by the, way when
- 19:40Speaker 5: it comes to fielding, PITCHERS i did a demo With
- 19:43Speaker 5: Aaron boone when we both worked AT, ESPN a demo
- 19:47Speaker 5: on the field WHERE i, like have a fungo bat
- 19:50Speaker 5: in my hand and we've got fielders And boonie is showing,
- 19:53Speaker 5: us you, know like what to do at third.
- 19:55Speaker 1: Base you, know do you cover the.
- 19:57Speaker 5: Bag on the bunt play or do you charge the
- 20:00Speaker 5: all on the bunt? Play and he said you. Never he,
- 20:03Speaker 5: SAID i want to stay at third on the bunt,
- 20:06Speaker 5: play BUT i need a pitcher who can cover the
- 20:10Speaker 5: third base line on the bunt play SO i can
- 20:13Speaker 5: hold the. Bag and he said the BEST i ever
- 20:15Speaker 5: saw doing that WAS. C. C, sabathia WHICH i found
- 20:19Speaker 5: interesting because he is a big. Man, yes but he
- 20:22Speaker 5: was a great high school basketball, player a good high
- 20:25Speaker 5: school football. Player for all of his, size he's a
- 20:28Speaker 5: great athlete and he was, able according To, boonie to
- 20:32Speaker 5: cover the third base line better than any pitcher That
- 20:35Speaker 5: boonie played.
- 20:36Speaker 1: WITH i thought that was.
- 20:37Speaker 5: Interesting and obviously he's the first Bat he's A hall Of,
- 20:40Speaker 5: famer and, YES i think The yankee should retire his.
- 20:43Speaker 3: Number, tim what would be your mount rushmore of double
- 20:48Speaker 3: played tandems IN mlb.
- 20:49Speaker 1: History, oh he's got.
- 20:51Speaker 2: Him oh he's got.
- 20:52Speaker 1: Him, yes great. Question yes he loves.
- 20:54Speaker 2: This uh.
- 20:55Speaker 5: Huh, Well i'm not Sure i've ever thought about. That all,
- 21:00Speaker 5: Right i'm gonna all, Right i'm gonna have To, No
- 21:02Speaker 5: i'm not Sure i've ever given this any. Thought all,
- 21:05Speaker 5: Right i'm gonna start with, Boy i'm gonna start With
- 21:08Speaker 5: Gene alli And Bill mazarowski with The pirates in the
- 21:14Speaker 5: sixties because, nobody but nobody made the double play from
- 21:19Speaker 5: second basement better Than. Masarowski i'm gonna say number two
- 21:24Speaker 5: would Be Omar vaskel And Roberto, alomar who were two
- 21:31Speaker 5: magicians in the middle of the. Infield i'm gonna Say
- 21:38Speaker 5: i'm gonna Say Sean dunstan And Ryan sandberg with The,
- 21:43Speaker 5: cubs in part Because sandberg was was so good with
- 21:49Speaker 5: his feet around the bag And i'm not Sure i've
- 21:51Speaker 5: ever seen a shortstop throw as hard As Sean dunstan,
- 21:54Speaker 5: did especially on the double. PLAY i think number four for,
- 21:59Speaker 5: me And i'm a little biased on this BECAUSE i
- 22:01Speaker 5: saw him every. Day cal And Billy ripkin were so
- 22:06Speaker 5: good together because they were, brothers, obviously and really close,
- 22:10Speaker 5: brothers and they knew exactly how everything worked around the.
- 22:14Speaker 1: BAG i would.
- 22:16Speaker 5: Put, THEM i would put them forth and just for,
- 22:19Speaker 5: Fun i'm gonna PUT i wouldn't have them in the top.
- 22:23Speaker 5: Five But Bobby wine with The phillies played With Cookie
- 22:27Speaker 5: rojas at second, base and that was The they used
- 22:31Speaker 5: to call that the day The days Of wine And,
- 22:34Speaker 5: rojas WHICH i just thought was the funniest thing in the.
- 22:37Speaker 5: World not as funny as When George orda played second
- 22:42Speaker 5: base for The White sox And Vance law played shortstop
- 22:46Speaker 5: for The White sox together and they were known As
- 22:49Speaker 5: law And, order WHICH i, Thought.
- 22:53Speaker 1: I'm all in for the fun names in the.
- 22:55Speaker 5: Position BUT i seriously fell AS i was off the
- 22:59Speaker 5: top of my. Head i'm SURE i am missing somebody really,
- 23:03Speaker 5: important AND i, apologize but ste got you, KNOW i
- 23:07Speaker 5: spent all my spare time thinking about stupid things like,
- 23:10Speaker 5: this AND i had never actually put that. Together But
- 23:14Speaker 5: i'm confident still in the FOUR i came up.
- 23:16Speaker 4: WITH i gotta tell, You, timmy knowing you the way
- 23:18Speaker 4: THAT i, DO i am. SHOCKED i am shocked that
- 23:20Speaker 4: you never thought of. That it never crossed your. MIND
- 23:22Speaker 4: i thought all baseball things crossed your.
- 23:24Speaker 2: Mind you know.
- 23:25Speaker 5: Most of them, do because nothing else crosses my mind
- 23:28Speaker 5: on a daily. Basis so it's always baseball stuff BECAUSE
- 23:31Speaker 5: i don't know anything.
- 23:32Speaker 2: Else is this a great? Game or what is his
- 23:35Speaker 2: podcast with his? Son it's.
- 23:36Speaker 4: Fantastic check it out wherever you get your. Podcast taylor
- 23:39Speaker 4: was so impressed when you SAID Cc. Sabbathia what'd you?
- 23:43Speaker 4: Say the greatest number fifty three of all?
- 23:44Speaker 2: Time fifty? Two i'm. Sorry So taylor was so. Impressed
- 23:48Speaker 2: he does.
- 23:49Speaker 4: This he wrote an Article tim the greatest number fifty
- 23:53Speaker 4: to ever play baseball was?
- 23:54Speaker 1: Who, well that's a good. QUESTION i think it Is Mookie.
- 24:00Speaker 5: Betts you, know we had we Had Sid, fernandez we
- 24:04Speaker 5: Had Tom, hanke we Had Adam.
- 24:07Speaker 1: Wainwright we've had some pretty good.
- 24:09Speaker 5: Fifties BUT i Think Mookie, betts with a couple of
- 24:12Speaker 5: MVPs And World series rings and maybe the best defensive
- 24:17Speaker 5: right fielder in the game a couple of years, ago
- 24:20Speaker 5: and then he just turns and becomes a, SHORTSTOP i
- 24:23Speaker 5: THINK Mooki betts is the greatest number fifty of all.
- 24:27Speaker 2: Time go, Ahead.
- 24:28Speaker 4: Taylor you can ask him any, Number, Taylor i'll have
- 24:30Speaker 4: it for, you fifty.
- 24:31Speaker 3: One there seems to be some Debate Randy, Johnson Trevor,
- 24:34Speaker 3: hoffman Each, Heiro who are you going?
- 24:36Speaker 6: There?
- 24:38Speaker 5: Sorry, Yeah Randy johnson is the greatest number fifty one
- 24:43Speaker 5: of all. Time Each row was, amazing But Randy johnson
- 24:48Speaker 5: is a top ten pitcher. Ever you could make a
- 24:52Speaker 5: case That Randy johnson is the greatest left handed pitcher
- 24:56Speaker 5: of all.
- 24:56Speaker 1: TIME i probably wouldn't say. THAT i go way back
- 24:59Speaker 1: To Lefty.
- 25:00Speaker 5: Grove but he's also the most terrifying PITCHER i believe
- 25:06Speaker 5: in the history of. BASEBALL i Remember Jeff, heuston former
- 25:10Speaker 5: middle infielder for The, rangers And. Orioles we were talking
- 25:13Speaker 5: About Michael. Jordan this is like twenty five years ago or.
- 25:16Speaker 5: So so he, says what's the worst thing That Michael
- 25:19Speaker 5: jordan can do to? You he can dunk on you
- 25:22Speaker 5: and embarrass. You what is the worst thing That Randy
- 25:26Speaker 5: johnson could do to? You he, said he could kill.
- 25:29Speaker 5: You that's how. Hard Randy johnson threw six' ten slinging
- 25:35Speaker 5: it from, the side one of the great sliders in
- 25:37Speaker 5: the history, of baseball and my Friend, rich donley former
- 25:40Speaker 5: coach With, the marlins and a bunch of others told
- 25:43Speaker 5: Me Once randy johnson was so tall he didn't even
- 25:46Speaker 5: need a pickoff move to. Second base he just reached
- 25:49Speaker 5: out and tag. The guy that's How Tall randy. Johnson Was,
- 25:53Speaker 5: so yeah it's a debate at, fifty one but really not.
- 25:56Speaker 1: For Me randy johnson's the. Best number.
- 25:58Speaker 4: Fifty one we'll get you out of here in just.
- 26:01Speaker 4: A second do you Love The World? Baseball classic it's
- 26:03Speaker 4: somewhat it feels so much different than the.
- 26:05Speaker 2: Regular, Season, OBVIOUSLY yeah i.
- 26:07Speaker 1: Love It.
- 26:07Speaker 5: Stu gotts it has grown. On me at, THE beginning
- 26:10Speaker 5: i wasn't sure. About it, you know how is this
- 26:13Speaker 5: going to work in? Spring training we're stealing guys. From
- 26:16Speaker 5: teams are they going to play? Their best are they
- 26:18Speaker 5: going to play? Their hardest but it has won me
- 26:21Speaker 5: over the.
- 26:21Speaker 6: Last.
- 26:21Speaker 5: ONE did i covered a bunch of Games At chase Field,
- 26:24Speaker 5: in arizona and it WAS like i would go outside
- 26:28Speaker 5: after the game and it was like there was a
- 26:30Speaker 5: party taking place on the Streets of phoenix after that because,
- 26:35Speaker 5: the people even with teams that weren't winning, this thing
- 26:39Speaker 5: we're just so excited to be there and support. Their
- 26:43Speaker 5: country and NOW that i Believe the americans are now
- 26:46Speaker 5: in with both feet trying to win, this thing and
- 26:49Speaker 5: With the dominicans and With, The japanese oh, my god
- 26:52Speaker 5: what a great thing this. Will be, SO yes i LOVE.
- 26:54Speaker 5: The wbc it has grown. On me it's a. GREAT
- 26:57Speaker 5: idea i just hope nobody gets it's hurt and affects
- 27:01Speaker 5: The regular major.
- 27:03Speaker 2: League season FINAL question i get.
- 27:05Speaker 4: Gat here taylor sent me a Video before otani had
- 27:08Speaker 4: five RBIs and was a triple shy of the cycle
- 27:11Speaker 4: in the. Second inning Is show otani the greatest baseball
- 27:15Speaker 4: player you've?
- 27:16Speaker 2: Ever?
- 27:16Speaker 4: SEEN tim i hear a lot of people, Saying. It
- 27:21Speaker 4: timmy That's why i'm.
- 27:21Speaker 2: ASKING you i.
- 27:22Speaker 5: NEVER did I Saw, willie Mays And willie mays did
- 27:26Speaker 5: it for, twenty Years so i'm still gonna Go With.
- 27:31Speaker 5: Willie mays but there's never been anybody Like. Show A
- 27:35Speaker 5: and i Always Say babe ruth is the greatest player of.
- 27:37Speaker 5: ALL time i still believe that based on his dominance
- 27:40Speaker 5: pitching and hitting when. He played but there's never been
- 27:44Speaker 5: anybody Like. Show A someday i believe he will be
- 27:47Speaker 5: the greatest player of, all time and that day is.
- 27:49Speaker 5: COMING soon, I Mean babe ruth. WAS great i really
- 27:54Speaker 5: believe in, nineteen twenty if there WAS a dh In The,
- 27:56Speaker 5: American League babe ruth would have hit fifty homers in one.
- 27:59Speaker 5: Twenty games but he didn't throw one hundred miles. An
- 28:02Speaker 5: hour he didn't hit pitches routinely thrown at one hundred miles.
- 28:07Speaker 1: An HOUR and i hate eggs.
- 28:08Speaker 5: And velocity but he didn't hit the ball off the
- 28:10Speaker 5: bat quite as hard As show. Ay did so that's
- 28:13Speaker 5: why there's never been anyone, like HIM and i don't
- 28:16Speaker 5: think there will ever be anybody like.
- 28:18Speaker 1: Him again.
- 28:19Speaker 5: It's remarkable every SINGLE day i watch, him play it.
- 28:23Speaker 4: Is, Breathtaking yep well there's nobody. Like you is this
- 28:26Speaker 4: a great game? Or what that's?
- 28:28Speaker 2: The podcast check it out wherever you get. Your podcast
- 28:30Speaker 2: he does it with. His son.
- 28:31Speaker 4: It's fantastic they, talk baseball, they talk, you know about,
- 28:35Speaker 4: their relationship and they talk about some fun stuff.
- 28:37Speaker 2: On there it's a very. Good listen timmy love you
- 28:40Speaker 2: miss you appreciate.
- 28:41Speaker 4: The, time no you got, A Run but i'm excited
- 28:43Speaker 4: because baseball's around the corner and that.
- 28:45Speaker 2: Means More tim kirshin on.
- 28:46Speaker 5: My, television okay thanks for, having, me fellows see, you soon,
- 28:49Speaker 5: all right, Thank, you timmy