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Furness Show 9-8: Cougar Roundtable after Apple Cup, Joe Sheehan, John Lund · The Ian Furness Show

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  Speaker 1: We were here yesterday, and yesterday was day one of
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  Speaker 1: Factor Fiction. So for some of you, it will be
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  Speaker 1: day one of Factor Fiction, but for many of you,
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  Speaker 1: day two as well. That's coming up at 2.35 today.
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  Speaker 1: Anders has the pick today. It is producer's pick today
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  Speaker 1: on Tuesday.
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  Speaker 2: Still trying to decide what I want to do with it, but.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I got to read this. This is classic. I
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  Speaker 1: got to tell our listeners, honestly, guys, not every show...
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  Speaker 1: I can't speak. I think a lot of us have
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  Speaker 1: a lot of fun with Factor Fiction. There's a little
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  Speaker 1: internal self-competitive stuff going on. Guys taking guys' teams that
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  Speaker 1: you want to take. Someday Chuck's going to take Army
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  Speaker 1: before Greg can get them. But I do like it
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  Speaker 1: because you can go through this. Man, I see what
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  Speaker 1: Softy did yesterday. And he didn't even admit to it
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  Speaker 1: on the air. It was the greasiest thing in the world.
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  Speaker 1: And I say that because it's normally something I would do.
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  Speaker 1: He took Oregon minus 22. Yes, he did. Versus Oklahoma State.
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  Speaker 2: Oklahoma State, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: First of all, Oklahoma State is the worst FBS team
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  Speaker 1: in the country in the Power Four and haven't won
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  Speaker 1: a game since like two years ago.
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  Speaker 2: Mike Gundy.
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  Speaker 3: He's gone.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I know.
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  Speaker 1: Since he was there. Now it's Eric Morris.
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  Speaker 3: Right.
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  Speaker 1: North Texas' guy, former Wazoo offensive coordinator. Cam Ward's old coach. Anyway,
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  Speaker 1: they got beat by... Well, who was it? Northern Iowa? No,
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  Speaker 1: who did they get beat by? Tulsa the other day
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  Speaker 1: in a state game. So I see what Softie's doing,
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  Speaker 1: taking the Ducks. That's a total hedge. If they don't cover,
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  Speaker 1: they don't look very good, he's going to be thrilled.
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  Speaker 1: If they do, then he's 1-0. I see what you're doing.
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  Speaker 1: I also see what Greg Bell did yesterday. In a
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  Speaker 1: shocking development, he picked something having to do with the
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  Speaker 1: Army game. They're playing South Florida. He took the under.
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  Speaker 1: Well done.
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  Speaker 2: 48 asks. Quite a large total for an Army game.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, what if they attempt a forward pass at
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  Speaker 1: some point? It was 52. It went down to 48.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: Wow.
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  Speaker 3: Okay.
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  Speaker 1: All right. And then I see that Jessamine, because this
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  Speaker 1: is how this 10 to 12 show, just so you
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  Speaker 1: guys know, this is how it's going to work during
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  Speaker 1: the week.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: There will always be an Army pick.
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  Speaker 5: Yep.
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  Speaker 1: There may be an anti-Navy pick in there.
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  Speaker 7: Sure, sure.
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  Speaker 1: Probably more than likely there will be. And then something
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  Speaker 1: having to do with the J-E-T-S, Jets, Jets, Jets. And
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  Speaker 1: I see Jessamyn took the Titans to beat the Jets.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Her Jets.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Kind of like the pick, actually.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, exactly. I kind of do, too. And so, anyway,
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  Speaker 1: Anders gets the pick today, 235. Remember how Factor Fiction works.
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  Speaker 1: It's brought to you by Lucky Eagle. casino resort, and
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  Speaker 1: they'll give away $ 1, 000 every week, $ 10, 000 grand prize at
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  Speaker 1: the end. All you have to do at 235, along
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  Speaker 1: with 735, 1135, and 335, all you do is you
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  Speaker 1: listen for the pick. If you agree, you text FACT. 86%
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  Speaker 1: texted FACT to Greg's pick yesterday. Not quite as good
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  Speaker 1: as Ian's pick, but we'll get to that in a second.
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  Speaker 1: But if you agree, it's fact 49451. If you disagree,
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  Speaker 1: fiction 49451. Not now at 235. And you got to
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  Speaker 1: make sure the window's open. You'll get a bounce back.
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  Speaker 1: It'll say they recorded your selection. If you didn't get that,
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  Speaker 1: then you probably misspelled fact or fiction. So yeah, I
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  Speaker 1: took Seattle Seahawks minus three and a half versus New
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  Speaker 1: England yesterday. All I wanted to do was beat Chuck.
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  Speaker 1: Who had a 91% approval for his Factor Fiction yesterday.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and he took the Rams.
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  Speaker 1: He took the Rams minus two and a half versus
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  Speaker 1: San Francisco. 91% of you guys agreed with him.
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  Speaker 3: I had 89.7.
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  Speaker 1: Let's round it up. Let's round it up to 90%.
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  Speaker 3: Sure.
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  Speaker 1: Agreed with me. 73% agreed with Softie. I would have
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  Speaker 1: agreed with him on that one.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think so too.
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  Speaker 1: Uh, let's see, Greg, I've, I don't know the over
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  Speaker 1: under with an army game. I have no desire to
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  Speaker 1: care about that. I just don't. I, and trust me,
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  Speaker 1: you guys know me. I'm degenerate. I'll be at Snoqualmie
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  Speaker 1: casino on Friday. Uh, OSU versus Ohio state versus UT.
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  Speaker 1: Ashley took the under today, 48.5 points, 48 and a
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  Speaker 1: half points, 68 per 69%. You got checked to nine. Uh,
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  Speaker 1: have you guys agreed with her? So we'll see. I
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  Speaker 1: don't know how many agreed with Jessamyn today, but, uh, Anyway,
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  Speaker 1: we'll have a pick from Anders. It's always fun to
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  Speaker 1: see how many people vote. But again, remember, all it
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  Speaker 1: takes is one correct fact or fiction during the week.
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  Speaker 1: You have 20 max that you can do on a
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  Speaker 1: normal week. If you get one right, you're automatically entered
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  Speaker 1: for $ 1, 000. So you can sit there if you get
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  Speaker 1: one right during the week, and if you get five
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  Speaker 1: right during the week, or you get 15 right during
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  Speaker 1: the week. That's the number of entries you have when
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  Speaker 1: Anders picks out through the randomizer a name on Monday.
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  Speaker 1: To give away $ 1, 000 to at the very end of
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  Speaker 1: the contest, 14 weeks in, whoever has the most correct
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  Speaker 1: picks will win $ 10, 000 from Lucky Eagle Casino Resort. Pretty
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  Speaker 1: good deal.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Pretty good deal.
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  Speaker 2: Absolutely a good deal.
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  Speaker 1: Do you have your pick yet? Not saying it, but
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  Speaker 1: you were grinding on a couple.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and then I opened up. college and i see
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  Speaker 2: a couple that i like there i normally don't dabble
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  Speaker 2: into college.
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  Speaker 1: No usually you're very much the pro.
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  Speaker 2: Guy yeah but i see a couple that i might
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  Speaker 2: okay i might look at i'm in especially ones that
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  Speaker 2: you might not touch oh oh in terms.
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  Speaker 1: Of fur oh okay i hear you i hear you.
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  Speaker 2: Not for betting reasons but.
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  Speaker 1: For okay just emotional exactly yeah yeah okay good for
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  Speaker 1: you all right that's coming up 235 today The Cougars
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  Speaker 1: will join us, Alex and MK, at 1230 this afternoon.
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  Speaker 1: We'll talk a little bit about the future of the
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  Speaker 1: Apple Cup and the atmosphere and maybe dispel a couple
• 5:26
  Speaker 1: of misnomers out there that people were throwing around that
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  Speaker 1: aren't right about payments and things like that. But we'll
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  Speaker 1: look ahead with those guys. So that's coming up at 1230. 120,
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  Speaker 1: Joe Sheehan. Last week, he gave us gold.
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  Speaker 2: He gave us one of the best promos that I've
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  Speaker 2: had in.
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  Speaker 1: A long time.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Mariners would be better off with a potted plant in
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  Speaker 1: the dugout as opposed to Dan Wilson. A ficus would
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  Speaker 1: be fine.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, that's proven to be the case last week.
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  Speaker 1: We'll see what kind of fun he brings with us
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  Speaker 1: today at 1.20 to talk Mariners baseball. And then John
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  Speaker 1: Lund at 2 p.m. today. I got to throw this
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  Speaker 1: at Lund. You had your fantasy draft last night.
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  Speaker 6: I did.
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  Speaker 1: A lot of our listeners are doing fantasy drafts last night.
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  Speaker 1: Tonight's really the last night you can do it. Yes, sir.
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  Speaker 1: And we had ours, our gong show neighborhood league. It
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  Speaker 1: went as well as you could expect.
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  Speaker 2: How do you like your team?
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  Speaker 1: I like my team, but here's why. And I know
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  Speaker 1: people are like, I don't care about your fantasy team.
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  Speaker 1: The only reason I'm going to bring up my team
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  Speaker 1: is this, because it's relevant to Lund. I took McCaffrey.
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  Speaker 5: Oh, no. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Late, like 11th pick. But I took McCaffrey, and now
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  Speaker 1: I just know that that stupid substation is going to—
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  Speaker 1: It's going to— Something's going to blow up.
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  Speaker 3: In his body.
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  Speaker 2: 100%.
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  Speaker 1: I'll blame Lund for it. Anyway, how was yours? Was
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  Speaker 1: it everything I would expect it to be? Yeah, we—
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  Speaker 1: The KJR team?
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  Speaker 2: We didn't have it in person, which I was really
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  Speaker 2: hoping for, but it's just hard to get everyone's schedules together.
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  Speaker 2: But man alive.
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  Speaker 1: Who's in the league?
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  Speaker 2: So a lot of people on KJR. It's Chuck.
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  Speaker 3: It's me.
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  Speaker 2: Ashley. Let me go to my members here so I
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  Speaker 2: don't miss anything. Jackson's on it.
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  Speaker 1: Furious Fantasy Feltz. Fantasy Feltz. We need Fantasy Feltz today.
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  Speaker 1: Can we get Fantasy Feltz on the Talkbacks, please?
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  Speaker 2: He's a big Fantasy guy. We got Sales Guy Luke,
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  Speaker 2: Sales Guy Rory.
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  Speaker 1: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: Let's see. Sales Guy Will.
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  Speaker 1: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: Jessamyn.
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  Speaker 6: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: Mike Benton.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, God.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to take Nathan McKinnon. Wrong draft, Mikey.
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  Speaker 2: And then Christopher Crawford.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, one half of the Molly Whoppers.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, and his team name is the funniest because it's
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  Speaker 2: Molly Whop Monday is saving KJR.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know why that's funny. I think it's accurate.
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  Speaker 1: It's factual.
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  Speaker 2: Monday's fantastic. But my lawn got mowed by Benton a
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  Speaker 2: couple times last night, and I'm pissed.
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  Speaker 6: Why?
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  Speaker 1: Because you wanted to take Connor McDavid, and he took
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  Speaker 1: him instead?
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  Speaker 2: Wrong draft, but yes.
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  Speaker 1: How's Mike Benton in a fantasy football draft? Everything you
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  Speaker 1: had to expect?
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  Speaker 2: It was really funny because yesterday, you know, in the
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  Speaker 2: chat where it says like, Mike Benton has joined the draft.
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  Speaker 2: Mike Benton has left the draft. Mike Benton has joined
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  Speaker 2: the draft. He did it like 18,000 times.
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  Speaker 1: I've got to get Liam to baseball practice. He's hitting today.
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  Speaker 1: I will log back on in a moment.
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  Speaker 2: And we were all having a ton of fun in
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  Speaker 2: the chat about like, man, what's Mike doing? We had
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  Speaker 2: a very large range of speculation.
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  Speaker 1: I think if you ask Fitz or Al, that question,
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  Speaker 1: they would probably shake their head. What's Mike Benton doing?
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  Speaker 1: Nobody knows. Nobody knows what he's doing.
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  Speaker 2: So true, man.
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  Speaker 1: I really like Vince Dunn in the 10th round.
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  Speaker 3: Great.
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  Speaker 5: Okay.
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  Speaker 1: Um, no, I'm glad it went well. And I like,
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  Speaker 1: what's Crawford's name again?
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  Speaker 2: Monday Saving KJR.
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  Speaker 1: Well said.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I think I agree with him.
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  Speaker 8: It is.
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  Speaker 1: It's the only thing keeping us afloat right now. Especially
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  Speaker 1: now in this Mariner scene. I don't know if Rich
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  Speaker 1: Moore would agree with that.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, fair.
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  Speaker 1: Probably not. Okay. Um, Seahawks tomorrow. We're going to be
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  Speaker 1: all over it. We're going to be down to Jimmy's
• 8:49
  Speaker 1: on first, starting at 10 in the morning with Greg.
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  Speaker 1: They're telling me I've got to be there, too, so
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  Speaker 1: I'll hang out for a while. Why do they want you?
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  Speaker 1: I don't want to be there. I love Jimmy's on first.
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  Speaker 1: I don't like the crowds.
• 9:02
  Speaker 2: I'm sensing that with your anti-Gorge.
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  Speaker 3: Take, too.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, no Gorge, no Jimmy's. It's going to be nuts
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  Speaker 1: down there tomorrow. Sure it is. Mariners play at one, right? Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: that's going to be.
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  Speaker 1: I say that somewhat tongue-in-cheek.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, God. What?
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  Speaker 2: We have a text.
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  Speaker 8: What?
• 9:19
  Speaker 2: Hey, I took McCaffrey, too. Robin Burian.
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  Speaker 6: Yes!
• 9:25
  Speaker 2: You and Ian will be suffering together this season. That's fantastic.
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  Speaker 1: I have the same top pick as Robin Burian. nothing
• 9:36
  Speaker 1: you might as well hey just go ahead and make
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  Speaker 1: the plans.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah make the plans for another show.
• 9:39
  Speaker 1: Those guys will be here sometime in uh in the
• 9:41
  Speaker 1: spring last place incoming god people don't know our guy
• 9:45
  Speaker 1: robin burian just tune in on thursday at two o'clock
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  Speaker 1: and you'll hear him yeah it's it he'll have had
• 9:50
  Speaker 1: there'll be one game i've played and he'll be oh
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  Speaker 1: i don't know It's already over. Anyway, where was I? Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: tomorrow's going to be fun. All joking aside, Mariner game early,
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  Speaker 1: Seahawk game at 5. We saw this at the– this
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  Speaker 1: is a different vibe, a different crowd.
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  Speaker 3: For sure.
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  Speaker 1: But I remember when we did the show, and I
• 10:12
  Speaker 1: did the show down there for the World Cup game,
• 10:13
  Speaker 1: the U.S.-Australia game. And as bad as the game was,
• 10:17
  Speaker 1: as much as that disappointed. You mean the Belgium game.
• 10:19
  Speaker 1: Belgium game, sorry. Belgium game. As bad as that game was,
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  Speaker 1: as bad as that match was, sorry, the hours leading
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  Speaker 1: up to it were epic.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Were just awesome. And I think, you know, that area,
• 10:33
  Speaker 1: it's starting to grow. You know, they've added a few bars.
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  Speaker 1: Certainly our friends at the Occidental Beer Hall down there.
• 10:39
  Speaker 1: And they've added some stuff. It's just, it's going to
• 10:42
  Speaker 1: be hopping. The weather's going to be great. Um, you know,
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  Speaker 1: I know a lot of people for the Belgium game
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  Speaker 1: went down there just to hang out. Uh, that's a
• 10:51
  Speaker 1: little different cause they don't, you know, there's no bro
• 10:53
  Speaker 1: barge on the waterfront. There's no place to watch the
• 10:55
  Speaker 1: game outside, but, uh, you know, I mean, I'm sure that,
• 10:58
  Speaker 1: that between T-Mobile and, and obviously Lumen is going to
• 11:01
  Speaker 1: be fun tomorrow. So we'll be looking forward to getting
• 11:03
  Speaker 1: down there. A lot's going on tomorrow, getting ready for
• 11:04
  Speaker 1: the game, um, as well. Mariners briefly, quickly. I, Divish
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  Speaker 1: wrote the story today that was basically our mollywop show yesterday.
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  Speaker 2: Excellent.
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  Speaker 1: Doing the math, the math on the rest of the season.
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  Speaker 1: You know, 14-4, 15-3. Those are the numbers you need
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  Speaker 1: to get to. Can it happen? The reality is, the
• 11:27
  Speaker 1: answer is it could. It could. The other problem is
• 11:33
  Speaker 1: this team hasn't shown you. And I was kind of
• 11:36
  Speaker 1: thinking back. The teams that did reel off like 17-1
• 11:39
  Speaker 1: stretches and things like that, We felt different about those teams, right?
• 11:45
  Speaker 1: We felt different about them.
• 11:46
  Speaker 2: Like previous Mariners teams?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, like the ones that he referenced in his story.
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  Speaker 1: It's like those teams just felt better and different.
• 11:52
  Speaker 2: Even when they weren't playing well, there was still this like, hey,
• 11:55
  Speaker 2: you know, we're right there.
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  Speaker 1: We're right there.
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  Speaker 2: It does not feel like that this year.
• 11:59
  Speaker 1: No, no. I mean, and, you know, they got a
• 12:02
  Speaker 1: little help. You know, last night, Toronto losing to the A's.
• 12:07
  Speaker 1: That helps you in the wildcard race. But I just
• 12:10
  Speaker 1: don't think the wildcard's even a point anymore because Minnesota, Baltimore, Texas,
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  Speaker 1: and Toronto are all ahead of you in the wildcard
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  Speaker 1: race before you get to Cleveland, which holds down the
• 12:19
  Speaker 1: final wildcard spot right now.
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  Speaker 2: So really it's five people in between you and a spot.
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  Speaker 3: Yes.
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  Speaker 1: Five teams. So then you've got to look back at
• 12:27
  Speaker 1: the division and ask yourself, okay, if you're– Effectively, it
• 12:31
  Speaker 1: says six. You're five games behind the Astros because you
• 12:33
  Speaker 1: have the tiebreaker. You can get on a heater if
• 12:42
  Speaker 1: you're the Mariners, but you need Houston to play well below.
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  Speaker 2: 500.
• 12:48
  Speaker 1: They need to literally finish eight. They need to go
• 12:51
  Speaker 1: eight and ten or worse.
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  Speaker 2: And you need Texas to also not go on a heater.
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  Speaker 2: They don't need to be below. 500.
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  Speaker 1: You can control that over the next three.
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  Speaker 3: Exactly.
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  Speaker 1: I guess I would ask this question. Can anything happen
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  Speaker 1: in the next three days to change your mind about
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  Speaker 1: where this team is?
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  Speaker 2: I mean, if they sweep Texas, I will slightly change
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  Speaker 2: my tune. I still won't believe it'll happen, but I
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  Speaker 2: will slightly be like, okay, well, this is your last chance.
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  Speaker 1: It does feel as if it's sweep or bust.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Right?
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  Speaker 6: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Because even if you win two of three.
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  Speaker 2: It's not good enough.
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  Speaker 1: You're still going to be three games behind them.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Right?
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  Speaker 1: So if you– behind Texas, that is, not even talking about.
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  Speaker 2: Houston, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and then you drop that one more game in
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  Speaker 1: the loss column, and that reduces you down again in
• 13:41
  Speaker 1: terms of how many games you can lose. Effectively, if
• 13:44
  Speaker 1: you're the Mariners, you can't lose more than four games
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  Speaker 1: the rest of the way. That's being realistic. Assuming that
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  Speaker 1: Texas and Houston– because I'm not worried about the wild card.
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  Speaker 8: No, no.
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  Speaker 1: You can't lose more than four games the rest of
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  Speaker 1: the way, and that's assuming Texas and Houston– Just absolutely
• 13:59
  Speaker 1: go in the tank.
• 14:00
  Speaker 2: And that's still even a possibility where you could go, what,
• 14:04
  Speaker 2: 14-4 and still not make the playoffs.
• 14:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 14:08
  Speaker 2: That's a 500 record.
• 14:10
  Speaker 1: They're 81-81, and if Houston wins 82— If.
• 14:13
  Speaker 2: They just don't play awful. If Houston plays 500 ball
• 14:17
  Speaker 2: the rest of the way, you're not in.
• 14:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, because I heard Softy yesterday. He was talking about,
• 14:21
  Speaker 1: I don't care about the games behind. I don't care
• 14:22
  Speaker 1: about the games under 500. I get that, and I'm
• 14:25
  Speaker 1: somewhat with him. I've kind of been with him on
• 14:26
  Speaker 1: that all year. It's about the games behind. But the
• 14:31
  Speaker 1: simple math just tells you what Anders said. I mean, Houston,
• 14:35
  Speaker 1: if they go 500 the rest of the way, well,
• 14:39
  Speaker 1: you're kind of screwed. Then you can only afford to
• 14:41
  Speaker 1: lose one more game, right, if you're Seattle, or two
• 14:43
  Speaker 1: more games. Two more games.
• 14:43
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know.
• 14:44
  Speaker 1: It's going to be hard. It's a hard one. I
• 14:47
  Speaker 1: do feel so different about this year because this is
• 14:50
  Speaker 1: the week a year ago where, like, God, what are
• 14:52
  Speaker 1: we going to do? We've got all this football stuff
• 14:53
  Speaker 1: to get to and all that, and we've got to
• 14:55
  Speaker 1: really focus in on the Mariners. And the more I
• 14:57
  Speaker 1: hear from our listeners, 49451, Also, the talk back, the
• 15:00
  Speaker 1: red microphone. The more I hear from them, you, Molly
• 15:03
  Speaker 1: Woff guys, everything else, I think people are in that
• 15:06
  Speaker 1: mode that they've been in all too often over 50 years,
• 15:08
  Speaker 1: and that is we've just kind of.
• 15:10
  Speaker 2: Just skipped a season over with.
• 15:11
  Speaker 1: We're worried about football now.
• 15:13
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 15:13
  Speaker 1: We're not even going to football. Baseball's an afterthought.
• 15:15
  Speaker 2: Almost like the first 145 games matter, Ian.
• 15:18
  Speaker 1: Did the games in April and June when they were
• 15:21
  Speaker 1: not good, did those matter?
• 15:23
  Speaker 2: I think so.
• 15:23
  Speaker 1: I was always told it was early.
• 15:24
  Speaker 2: I was told it was early. That's fair, but I
• 15:26
  Speaker 2: want to say, I think, I can't confirm this, I
• 15:29
  Speaker 2: think they count the same then as they do now.
• 15:32
  Speaker 1: Because I was told all along it's early. But early
• 15:37
  Speaker 1: may not have mattered. It's still relevant. It can be early,
• 15:40
  Speaker 1: and it can be relevant. Two things can be true.
• 15:42
  Speaker 3: Very true.
• 15:43
  Speaker 1: All right, when we come back, we'll check in. Alex
• 15:45
  Speaker 1: and MK. Apple Cup is over. What did they think
• 15:48
  Speaker 1: of the atmosphere, the game itself, just being in September?
• 15:52
  Speaker 1: We'll kind of put a bow on that, look to
• 15:54
  Speaker 1: the future, and I don't know what they think. I'm
• 15:58
  Speaker 1: bullish on Kirby Moore after one week. I'm not a
• 16:00
  Speaker 1: big fan, never have been a big fan of moral victories,
• 16:04
  Speaker 1: but I felt pretty good about the future of where
• 16:06
  Speaker 1: our program's going, coming out of that game with all
• 16:08
  Speaker 1: the challenges that we have. So we'll hear from the
• 16:10
  Speaker 1: boys coming up next.
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• 17:03
  Speaker 1: We bet you. Here we go. It's Alex and MK
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: are with us wrapping up Apple Cup, looking ahead. Normally,
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: I mean, for years when we say this, do this show,
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: wrapping up the Apple Cup, we're looking forward to a
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: bowl game. And talking about that and say, hey, I'll
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: talk to you guys in a couple weeks. Where's Alex
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: going for the bowl game? But that's not the case
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: because it was the opener. A lot to get to today, fellas.
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: MK is here. Alex is here. Alex, were you looking
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: down on the sideline ever and thinking that MK was
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: just going to find someone's helmet and go in? Because
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: he was bouncing around there like nobody's business, huh?
• 17:33
  Speaker 7: At one point, uh, Jessamyn McIntyre, my ear goes, Oh,
• 17:36
  Speaker 7: you got to see MK. He's like practically in the
• 17:38
  Speaker 7: huddle right now. I was like, that doesn't surprise me
• 17:43
  Speaker 7: one bit.
• 17:43
  Speaker 3: You know what's.
• 17:44
  Speaker 8: So crazy is I haven't seen this swagger on the
• 17:47
  Speaker 8: sideline that in a very long time, like that defense
• 17:50
  Speaker 8: was absolutely, we're going to talk about, but goodness, they
• 17:54
  Speaker 8: were fun to watch.
• 17:54
  Speaker 3: I was fired up.
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: Well, listen, I mean, let's see, uh, pilot, uh, Business
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: owner of a gym, business owner of a mortgage company
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: that spans a number of states, all those things, a pilot,
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: assistant coach. Is that on the horizon next there, fella,
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: or what?
• 18:11
  Speaker 8: Oh, man, there's too much gas. There's way too much
• 18:14
  Speaker 8: gas for that style. They have to whirl me back in.
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: Well, look, guys, obviously losing the Huskies is never fun. And,
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: you know, you guys are athletes. We've talked about moral
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: victories before and all those things. I think sometimes there's
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: exceptions or needs to have context, and everything about the
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: game is strange. We'll get to the bigger picture in
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: a minute. I want to talk about the game and
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: the atmosphere itself for a second. One guy was upstairs
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: in the booth, the other guy was on the field
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: going bananas and all that. I've heard, and I watched
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: on TV, I've heard a lot of different things, and
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: I think this speaks really volumes towards the future of
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: the series as well and what's next. Alex, from your perspective...
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: Was it strange like I've heard? Was it great like
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: I've heard? I mean, I've heard everything. How would you
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: describe the atmosphere and just everything around the game going
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: in and through the game?
• 19:07
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know. 6-1, half dozen the other, I guess.
• 19:09
  Speaker 3: I mean, I think it was.
• 19:10
  Speaker 7: You know, there were times, there were moments in the game,
• 19:12
  Speaker 7: you know, some big third downs after Washington State scored
• 19:16
  Speaker 7: to cut it 10-7. Like, the stadium for both sides,
• 19:18
  Speaker 7: both fan bases got loud and, like.
• 19:20
  Speaker 3: Got, you know, got exciting. But, yeah, there was... You know,
• 19:24
  Speaker 3: I was thinking about why it feels strange. I realized that.
• 19:28
  Speaker 7: Part of having it at the end of the year
• 19:30
  Speaker 7: that made it what it was was the kind of
• 19:33
  Speaker 7: finality of it, right? You're ending the season or you're
• 19:37
  Speaker 7: going to a bowl game or you're both trying to
• 19:41
  Speaker 7: vie for national you know, national implication.
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 19:44
  Speaker 7: Like, and with this, there's just, there's no finality to it.
• 19:47
  Speaker 7: It's we're onto the next. And that makes it feel
• 19:50
  Speaker 7: very anticlimactic. I think like normally we would, no matter
• 19:54
  Speaker 7: what the loss to the Huskies would be, it would
• 19:56
  Speaker 7: be like, everybody would be really frustrated instead. It's like,
• 19:59
  Speaker 7: all right, let's take the good and learn from the
• 20:02
  Speaker 7: bad and move on to the next one. Cause we
• 20:03
  Speaker 7: got Kansas state next week.
• 20:04
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 20:05
  Speaker 8: Yeah, but there's, there's also, there wasn't that, there wasn't
• 20:08
  Speaker 8: a story built up essentially. Like we have no film
• 20:10
  Speaker 8: on the Cougs. We don't know who they are, what
• 20:12
  Speaker 8: team would be out there.
• 20:15
  Speaker 6: Okay.
• 20:15
  Speaker 8: You have this, this roster, $ 30 million roster, and then
• 20:18
  Speaker 8: you have the Cougs. We don't know what Kirby's going
• 20:20
  Speaker 8: to do.
• 20:20
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 20:20
  Speaker 8: So I will tell you from being on, on the field,
• 20:23
  Speaker 8: there was a sea of purple. You see crimson sprinkled
• 20:26
  Speaker 8: in everywhere. But one of Washington State's other players on
• 20:30
  Speaker 8: the field is the band and the team behind– I'm sorry,
• 20:33
  Speaker 8: the crowd behind them.
• 20:34
  Speaker 3: So on third down, we hear that da-da-da.
• 20:37
  Speaker 8: You know, the whole crowd's chomping like they did when
• 20:40
  Speaker 8: they won over in Seahawks Stadium. The Krug Nation was
• 20:44
  Speaker 8: so loud that game. I'm telling you, on the sideline,
• 20:46
  Speaker 8: you could hear a pin drop. It was almost like
• 20:48
  Speaker 8: watching a spring game when UW was on the field.
• 20:52
  Speaker 3: And it's an advantage. It is an advantage big time.
• 20:55
  Speaker 3: And you just– It didn't feel right.
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: That atmosphere you just described at the end there, MK,
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: that's what I've heard from a lot of people. Listen,
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: the band thing was what it was. Let me just
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: point two things out. One, the athletic department does not
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: oversee the band. That's not a John Harlow thing. That's
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: a different part of the school. That's upper campus slash
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: the music department. They work together with each other. But,
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: you know, people yelling at Harlow about, you know, it's
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: his fault and it's not their decision. Okay, so let's
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: just put that to bed. Two, we'll see where the
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: series goes. It goes back to Pullman next season. There's
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: another little misnomer out there that people, Wazoo needs to
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: play the game because of financial reasons. We don't get
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: money from going there, guys. It's a home and home.
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: It's not like going if you're playing a one-off at
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: Michigan or and you're getting a $ 2 million buyout, you
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: don't get that by playing the Apple Cup. The benefit financially,
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: what I was told by people in the athletic department,
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: the benefit financially is next year. You know you're going
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: to sell out a game at Martin Stadium in September
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: against a non-conference team. That normally doesn't happen. That's your
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: benefit financially. So when you hear people chirp and say,
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: Wazoo has to keep doing it because of finances, that's
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: not the case. So just keep that in mind. I
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: think everyone's got mixed feelings about it. We can put
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: it to bed, that particular part of the story, and
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: move on. So let's move on. Alex, I'll start with you.
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: Just overall impressions, because MK said it best. We talked
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: about it last week. We had no idea what to
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: expect from this team, a new coaching staff, a first-time
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: head coach, a first-time play caller. And I would just
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: say overall, I came out of there as a Coug
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: fan a lot more enthusiastic about what's coming, even though
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: they lost the game. But that's just me. What did
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: you think?
• 22:39
  Speaker 7: I think it tracks with some of the things we've
• 22:41
  Speaker 7: heard throughout the offseason, right? Which is that, you know,
• 22:43
  Speaker 7: the defense has kind of reloaded through the transfer portal and,
• 22:47
  Speaker 7: you know, a couple, a few, a little bit of retention.
• 22:49
  Speaker 7: And that Trent Bray is really good at what he
• 22:52
  Speaker 7: does as a defensive play caller.
• 22:53
  Speaker 3: And that showed up. I mean, they gave Washington fits.
• 22:56
  Speaker 3: And if, you know, look. Like if Devon Williams wasn't
• 23:00
  Speaker 3: the best athlete on the field at all times, then,
• 23:03
  Speaker 3: you know, the Coug defense probably holds the Huskies to
• 23:07
  Speaker 3: seven points. Right.
• 23:08
  Speaker 7: And obviously they gave him a short field touchdown after interception,
• 23:10
  Speaker 7: but I thought defense was fantastic.
• 23:14
  Speaker 3: You know, I am, I'll be interested to see where
• 23:17
  Speaker 3: the special teams goes.
• 23:18
  Speaker 7: You know, I think Kirby coach more was really surprised
• 23:21
  Speaker 7: by the results that happened on the field that, that
• 23:23
  Speaker 7: hadn't shown up during fall camp. So that's a, that's
• 23:26
  Speaker 7: a little bit concerning. And so we'll see where that
• 23:28
  Speaker 7: goes offensively. I thought the offensive group, you know, started hot,
• 23:32
  Speaker 7: obviously in the first drive, didn't fit capitalize and then
• 23:36
  Speaker 7: really like really had a.
• 23:37
  Speaker 3: Hard time getting going in the first half. But the
• 23:38
  Speaker 3: second half, improve considerably.
• 23:41
  Speaker 7: I think play calling wise, execution wise, I, you know,
• 23:44
  Speaker 7: in general, we've heard offense has been a little behind
• 23:47
  Speaker 7: during fall camp and that showed up, I think on Sunday. So,
• 23:49
  Speaker 7: you know, they need to take a big step heading
• 23:52
  Speaker 7: into week two and then move forward.
• 23:54
  Speaker 3: Finding identity too.
• 23:55
  Speaker 8: I think that's the biggest thing is no one knows
• 23:57
  Speaker 8: what the identity is going to be on that offense
• 23:59
  Speaker 8: just yet. And I'm, I mean, that quarterback at times
• 24:02
  Speaker 8: look really, really good and seen his legs, you know,
• 24:05
  Speaker 8: that's what we needed a little bit of scrambling action too.
• 24:08
  Speaker 8: come back but defensively i saw a little psychoness uh
• 24:11
  Speaker 8: from from caden as a caden baby this dude i'm
• 24:14
  Speaker 8: telling you like we needed a little nasty right someone
• 24:17
  Speaker 8: to have a little nasty to bring swagger to the
• 24:19
  Speaker 8: d-line and on the sideline i'm like yes this kid's
• 24:21
  Speaker 8: a little psycho i love him but he was awesome
• 24:24
  Speaker 8: he brought he brought so much energy to that defense
• 24:26
  Speaker 8: but being able to see fourth fourth down stops like
• 24:31
  Speaker 8: what that defense was absolutely flying around it was so
• 24:35
  Speaker 8: great but like That team right there is a very
• 24:37
  Speaker 8: good football team we played against, and you cannot give
• 24:39
  Speaker 8: the ball over three times.
• 24:41
  Speaker 3: And expect to win. You just can't.
• 24:43
  Speaker 8: So, I mean, those little things we fix, and then
• 24:45
  Speaker 8: not coming up with points, to be able to push
• 24:48
  Speaker 8: that UW defense, to be able to push that UW
• 24:50
  Speaker 8: defense back and have a chance to get three, you
• 24:53
  Speaker 8: have to get the three every time, right?
• 24:54
  Speaker 3: So, totally different ballgame, a couple of those misses.
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: Two missed field goals, just critical. Today's college football, it
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: just can't happen. You know, I mean, honestly, the kickers
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: around college football are so good right now, and I
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: don't know if they'll have a competition this week. I
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: know Stevens has been their guy, but he's missed some
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: big kicks over the last couple of years as well,
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: and the Oregon State comes to mind. Chip shots, too.
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: You know, so we'll see what happens there. Obviously not
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: having Freeman kills you in the return game. Like, that
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: just absolutely kills you, and I'm still wondering why Alex,
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: you were up there. That was a penalty, wasn't it?
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: He got knocked off the play. It wasn't in the ball. Like,
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: I didn't get that. Like, a non-contact, but my God. Like,
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: all the complaining about the officiating from the Husky side
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: that I've heard, guys, That's a penalty all day, and
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: it takes your best player out, and we'll see. Hopefully,
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: he comes back.
• 25:36
  Speaker 3: Nothing called was wild.
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Alex, how much is Freeman being out hurt, like
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: the passing game specifically? Not just the return game, but
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: the passing game, because he's kind of your most dynamic guy,
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: isn't he?
• 25:46
  Speaker 3: A hundred percent.
• 25:47
  Speaker 7: I mean, I think, I don't know about most dynamic,
• 25:49
  Speaker 7: probably most proven dynamic guy, right? I mean, the, the
• 25:53
  Speaker 7: kind of, well, what we saw from Daniel blood, I
• 25:55
  Speaker 7: think was positive in general. I think, you know, take,
• 25:58
  Speaker 7: take Hawkins is equally as dynamic, but like Freeman's a
• 26:01
  Speaker 7: proven commodity and he's done it. And he was kind
• 26:03
  Speaker 7: of the guy that, you know, the Cougs were leaning
• 26:05
  Speaker 7: on to, to kind of be that playmaker.
• 26:07
  Speaker 3: And that's a little bit of what happened.
• 26:09
  Speaker 7: I think in that second quarter where, um, you know,
• 26:11
  Speaker 7: Washington wants to play man coverage on, you know, kind
• 26:13
  Speaker 7: of third down and they're going to really challenge you.
• 26:15
  Speaker 7: And the idea was that, you know, in the game plan,
• 26:17
  Speaker 7: Tony Freeman is going to be that guy that can
• 26:18
  Speaker 7: win against pretty much anybody. And all of a sudden
• 26:20
  Speaker 7: he's out and the running game is not effective. And you're,
• 26:23
  Speaker 7: you're in a bunch of third longs and you're, nobody's
• 26:26
  Speaker 7: getting open. It just was what it was.
• 26:27
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 26:28
  Speaker 7: And so, you know, again, that reset of, you know,
• 26:31
  Speaker 7: kind of who, and Kay said, like, what's their identity
• 26:33
  Speaker 7: going to be moving forward? Cause it was kind of, Hey,
• 26:36
  Speaker 7: we can get Tony Freeman in a bunch of different, uh,
• 26:38
  Speaker 7: situations and, and attack people.
• 26:40
  Speaker 3: Now it's going to be like, well, you know, can
• 26:42
  Speaker 3: we figure out the running game? Cause that wasn't good.
• 26:44
  Speaker 7: Uh, you know, this other than Caden Pinnock, um, Or
• 26:48
  Speaker 7: is it leaning on guys like Darius Clements, who we
• 26:50
  Speaker 7: saw have some big catches, right, and Daniel Blood, and
• 26:53
  Speaker 7: then do you get Tank Hawkins involved?
• 26:54
  Speaker 3: So, again, I think there's guys, but nobody that's proven
• 26:57
  Speaker 3: it like Freeman.
• 26:58
  Speaker 7: So it's going to be really interesting to see what
• 26:59
  Speaker 7: happens this week.
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: What was your take on the long third downs?
• 27:05
  Speaker 8: Those third and long runs, what was your take on that?
• 27:09
  Speaker 3: For kids?
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: Just the handoff to Voorhees and stuff, kind of give
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: up plays?
• 27:14
  Speaker 8: I mean, there's a few really third and long situations just,
• 27:18
  Speaker 8: you know, run up the middle.
• 27:19
  Speaker 7: So, yeah, I mean, I think there was somewhere like
• 27:21
  Speaker 7: you couldn't drop back and pass. I mean, I think
• 27:23
  Speaker 7: the fear was if you're in third and extra long,
• 27:25
  Speaker 7: like third and 10 to 14, you know, you had
• 27:28
  Speaker 7: a couple of them early. That's where the first pick
• 27:29
  Speaker 7: came from.
• 27:30
  Speaker 6: Right.
• 27:30
  Speaker 7: And just because like drop back pass and you can't
• 27:33
  Speaker 7: you can't block that D line. They they go five
• 27:35
  Speaker 7: up front. And then they rush a six. It's like
• 27:37
  Speaker 7: a bunch of one-on-one blocks. It's really hard. It's a
• 27:40
  Speaker 7: really hard spot to be in, right? And so especially
• 27:42
  Speaker 7: when you can't win at the receiver position. So then
• 27:44
  Speaker 7: I think it was like, all right, we're going to
• 27:46
  Speaker 7: try and protect ourselves and stay in this thing, which
• 27:49
  Speaker 7: effectively worked. I mean, you're kind of 10-7. You have, what,
• 27:52
  Speaker 7: nine minutes left, seven minutes left? Like, you stayed in it. So,
• 27:55
  Speaker 7: you know, from a coaching standpoint, I thought it was
• 27:57
  Speaker 7: a really well-managed game, honestly. I think there were some
• 28:01
  Speaker 7: execution issues on special teams and offense that were, you know,
• 28:04
  Speaker 7: and then two plays maybe on defense.
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: So, you know, again, it was, I think coaching-wise.
• 28:09
  Speaker 7: I was really impressed with Kirby Moore in his first
• 28:10
  Speaker 7: go-around and, you know, the guys making adjustments.
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think if you go back to what you
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: guys both said, I mean, DeMond Williams, he's getting paid
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: $ 4 million a year, and he made a $ 4 million
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: play to clinch the game on that third down. I mean,
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: like a couple guys in the country make that play.
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: I mean, sometimes the guy just makes a play, and
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: that scramble, that run he had was, you know, in
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: a seven-point game, you get the ball back on third
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: and nine, you know. And if it's not Devon Williams,
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: you probably get the ball back. And then who knows
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: what happens at that point. They hung around. I think
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: it's positive all the way around, no doubt about it.
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: All right, we'll take a quick break. We'll come back.
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: We'll continue our conversation. I want to talk a little
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: bit more about that defense, man. Trent Bray, let's go.
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: It feels, man, on a weekend in which– and give
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: Washington a little shout-out there. I know they recognize Walden
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: and Coach Walden and Coach Doba. Coach Doba, the Palouse Posse, man.
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: It wasn't quite that, but there was some fun stuff
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: with that defense. We'll talk about that next on 93.3 KGFM.
• 29:03
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• 29:07
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• 29:18
  Speaker 1: All right, MK and Alex are with us. Cougs continue
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: talking Cougs here. Listen, like I said at the start
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: of this thing, Losing the Huskies is never fun. You
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: move on, and Alex said it, Kansas State this week.
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: We'll get to that in a second. But let's just
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: talk for a second about the defense and and what
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: they had and i know listen we can washington can
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: talk about how cool they were sloppy and this and
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: that all those things sometimes the other team makes you
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: in puts you in those positions and mk you're down
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: there alex jump in afterwards but we were all excited
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: about trent bray being a member of this coaching staff
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: and maybe it didn't work out as a head coach
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: at oregon state but this guy's a pretty good defensive
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: mind and he's got those guys playing defense for wazoo
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: like i haven't seen for a while.
• 29:57
  Speaker 8: And this is the craziest thing, though, too, that I love.
• 29:59
  Speaker 8: And we keep talking about this, how Washington State is
• 30:02
  Speaker 8: that blue-collar team. It's like, okay, these are the guys
• 30:05
  Speaker 8: we have. We're going to find a way to win.
• 30:07
  Speaker 8: And it's the best. The biggest compliment as a coach
• 30:10
  Speaker 8: is taking the talent you have and getting the best
• 30:13
  Speaker 8: out of them, right? And that's exactly what Washington State
• 30:15
  Speaker 8: is doing. And we're seeing this swagger. We're seeing them develop.
• 30:19
  Speaker 8: And then we're coming up with this narrative like, okay,
• 30:21
  Speaker 8: Washington State, the defense is going to lead this team.
• 30:23
  Speaker 8: Like Coach Akey used to always say, a perfect game
• 30:25
  Speaker 8: is 2-0. We're going to go get a safety on them,
• 30:28
  Speaker 8: and we're going to hold them. They're not going to
• 30:29
  Speaker 8: score on us, right? So I think that defensive mentality
• 30:32
  Speaker 8: to hold that UW offense, I think the 24th, there
• 30:35
  Speaker 8: were some scrub points in there at the end from interception,
• 30:38
  Speaker 8: whatever like that, but they pretty much held them to
• 30:40
  Speaker 8: 14 points the whole game, which I thought was pretty
• 30:43
  Speaker 8: fantastic compared to what everybody thought was.
• 30:45
  Speaker 6: Going to happen.
• 30:47
  Speaker 5: Alex?
• 30:48
  Speaker 3: Just my thing.
• 30:49
  Speaker 7: I mean, the scheme wise doesn't surprise me because Trent
• 30:51
  Speaker 7: Bray is, is always been like that.
• 30:54
  Speaker 3: I am shocked at the personnel.
• 30:57
  Speaker 7: I mean, they have reloaded in such a big way
• 31:00
  Speaker 7: that they, they look, I mean, last year's defense was
• 31:02
  Speaker 7: really good. Didn't really pass the eye test. I mean,
• 31:05
  Speaker 7: this group, you got two D tackle, two 320 plus
• 31:08
  Speaker 7: pound D tackles and lay up up at LA and
• 31:11
  Speaker 7: DeMarge Smith and, You got another kind of smaller one
• 31:14
  Speaker 7: that I love.
• 31:15
  Speaker 3: Paul Hudson, the third, he made a ton of plays
• 31:17
  Speaker 3: in there. He's about 270 pounds plus cane BDM.
• 31:19
  Speaker 7: And they got a four man rotation at D tackle.
• 31:21
  Speaker 3: It's really good.
• 31:22
  Speaker 7: And those two DNs heard about them all at camp
• 31:25
  Speaker 7: Zunk and Matthias McClain or.
• 31:27
  Speaker 3: The real deal.
• 31:28
  Speaker 7: And then I was actually loved when I saw from
• 31:31
  Speaker 7: DJ Warner, the linebacker transfer from SMU long can run. Obviously,
• 31:36
  Speaker 7: Keith Brown's a proven commodity.
• 31:37
  Speaker 3: He was great.
• 31:39
  Speaker 7: And then, you know, those secondary guys, you know, honestly,
• 31:41
  Speaker 7: where it really hurt Washington State was Jaleel Tucker got
• 31:44
  Speaker 7: nicked up when he went back to try to recover
• 31:47
  Speaker 7: on that tip ball, right?
• 31:48
  Speaker 3: And he got banged up, came out.
• 31:50
  Speaker 7: And when he was on the field, that whole group
• 31:52
  Speaker 7: of five DBs was really, really good. So, you know,
• 31:56
  Speaker 7: interested to see, like, how they continue to gel and
• 31:58
  Speaker 7: what moves– what they do move forward. But just personnel-wise, man,
• 32:02
  Speaker 7: I'm so excited– the way they can match up with
• 32:04
  Speaker 7: what Bray wants to do.
• 32:05
  Speaker 8: Yeah, the biggest thing, though, too, is trying to stop
• 32:09
  Speaker 8: Damon Williams. I mean, it's almost impossible to keep him
• 32:12
  Speaker 8: in pocket, and they really rallied around and I think
• 32:14
  Speaker 8: did a great job.
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: Before I get to Kansas State, because I got a
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: similar guy in Avery Johnson this week, a quarterback, fun,
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: and then Fafita after that, all kinds of fun. Anyway,
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: before we get to that, Alex, just the offense as
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: a whole. I know there's been some criticism of Caden Panik,
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: but I think what I would always say is this.
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: Those guys, coaches, have been with this team since the
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: spring and through the summer and through fall. They picked
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: the guy that they think gives them the best chance,
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: and it was Pinnock. I mean, he's small. That's not
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: going to change. There's things that aren't going to change.
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: Freeman getting hurt doesn't help. He didn't get a lot
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: of help on a couple of plays protection-wise. Running game
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: wasn't there. But Duggar, Eshelman, those are the other guys.
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: Just in that environment, going into Husky Stadium, I'm assuming
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: that was the best guy, but just your thoughts on
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: his play, what you think he can get better at,
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: and what is he capable of getting better at?
• 33:12
  Speaker 7: I thought some of the things that he does really
• 33:14
  Speaker 7: well showed up at times, right? He can throw, he
• 33:16
  Speaker 7: throws the ball really well on the run. I mean,
• 33:18
  Speaker 7: when he's outside the pocket, he's a real problem for people.
• 33:21
  Speaker 7: His legs in the running game, you know, gave Washington
• 33:24
  Speaker 7: State a chance. I mean, if you're not, if his
• 33:26
  Speaker 7: legs weren't a factor, then it would have been even worse, right? Because,
• 33:30
  Speaker 7: you know, you just didn't have guys getting open like
• 33:32
  Speaker 7: you'd want to. The other thing I would say, you know,
• 33:34
  Speaker 7: from Pinnock's standpoint is, you know, that kind of could
• 33:36
  Speaker 7: have gotten sideways real quick after Tony Freeman got hurt, right?
• 33:39
  Speaker 7: Like offense isn't moving. It's your first start in the
• 33:42
  Speaker 7: crimson and gray. Like, you know, you're not playing great,
• 33:45
  Speaker 7: throw an early pick, you know, it could have gotten worse, right?
• 33:47
  Speaker 7: And instead it got better and it got, and he
• 33:49
  Speaker 7: gave them a chance.
• 33:50
  Speaker 3: So, you know, I think credit to him in that.
• 33:53
  Speaker 3: Can he, can he get better with some things? For sure.
• 33:55
  Speaker 7: I think, you know, there were some things in the
• 33:57
  Speaker 7: run game where he's probably going to go back and say,
• 33:59
  Speaker 7: maybe I pull this one or maybe I hand this
• 34:01
  Speaker 7: one off. You know, those are kind of, on the
• 34:03
  Speaker 7: fly decisions that, you know, you want a veteran to
• 34:05
  Speaker 7: be able to make. And then I think he's going
• 34:07
  Speaker 7: to have to win from the pocket somewhere, right? Like
• 34:09
  Speaker 7: he's not, he's not going to be the guy that
• 34:11
  Speaker 7: beats teams from the pocket, but there's going to be
• 34:13
  Speaker 7: times where he's going to have to make a play
• 34:15
  Speaker 7: from the pocket. And I felt like, you know, whether
• 34:17
  Speaker 7: it was on him or receivers or offensive line, it
• 34:19
  Speaker 7: doesn't really matter.
• 34:20
  Speaker 3: Like ball leaves your hand last.
• 34:21
  Speaker 7: And so I think he's going to look at that
• 34:23
  Speaker 7: tape and realize like, yeah, there's some probably there's a
• 34:25
  Speaker 7: couple of throws in there. I could probably just let
• 34:27
  Speaker 7: go and trust that my guys will make plays. Um, Um,
• 34:29
  Speaker 7: but overall I thought it was solid. I think it
• 34:32
  Speaker 7: was solid cause he got better in the second half. Um,
• 34:35
  Speaker 7: you know, and so I, I'm interested to see what
• 34:36
  Speaker 7: that next step is. Um, you know, knowing that there's
• 34:39
  Speaker 7: a couple of guys behind that were in the mix and,
• 34:41
  Speaker 7: you know, for Washington state, like they got to find
• 34:43
  Speaker 7: who that best guy is. And you don't, sometimes you
• 34:45
  Speaker 7: don't know until you, you face another team.
• 34:47
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 34:48
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 34:49
  Speaker 8: I think also it's like you're, you go back in,
• 34:51
  Speaker 8: you're watching film. There's so much good film for, for
• 34:54
  Speaker 8: Washington state to build off of. I think, you know,
• 34:56
  Speaker 8: I hate a moral victory. Um, But I felt good
• 34:59
  Speaker 8: on the side. I'm like, these guys are giving these
• 35:01
  Speaker 8: guys a run for their money. And there's a lot
• 35:04
  Speaker 8: better product that I thought was going to be on
• 35:05
  Speaker 8: the field that day, in my personal opinion.
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: Well, part of it, too, is the unknown of the
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: coaching staff. I'll wrap it up. Let's wrap it up
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: with this. Kirby Moore comes in, we mentioned, first-time head coach.
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: An experienced staff, but your offensive play caller is a
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: first-time guy. And so you've got– and I'll just go back.
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: This is why I want to throw some bouquets their way,
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: and I hate that I'm with you guys. I mean,
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: you know me. I'm usually like, what the hell? I'm
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: pissed off. I came out of that thing feeling better
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: than I thought I would. Also thinking, can you have
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: a harder first couple weeks as a landing spot, as
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: a new staff and a new first-time head coach? You
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: have to go to 76,000 people at Husky Stadium against
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: a ranked team and a coach in Jed Fish that
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: would love to just run it up on you. And
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: to the point where he got his running back hurt
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: on the last drive.
• 35:47
  Speaker 3: He tried to.
• 35:49
  Speaker 9: Yeah.
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: What an absolute dipstick. Lamar messed up on that arm. Like, just...
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: If I'm a Husky fan, I'm like, what are you doing, buddy? Like,
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: just take a knee. The game's over. But he wanted
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: to run it up. And they wanted to do damage
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: to you. And instead, Kirby Moore, man, he just looked poised.
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: He looked calm. MK, you're on the sideline. I'll start
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: with you. How was the sideline? You've been on a
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: lot of sidelines. I just feel really good about where
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: we are with this staff.
• 36:15
  Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean, that's what you're talking about, too, is
• 36:16
  Speaker 8: like the spirit, the energy, the swagger. Like, to the end,
• 36:20
  Speaker 8: they were like, yeah, this is our ballgame. We're going
• 36:22
  Speaker 8: into Husky Stadium. We're going to get this W. it
• 36:25
  Speaker 8: just felt good. And when I'm telling you, like, I
• 36:27
  Speaker 8: cannot wait to watch film and see what's going on
• 36:29
  Speaker 8: going to happen next week, but I'm excited.
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: Alex, just play calling coaching staff thoughts on that.
• 36:36
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 36:36
  Speaker 7: I think, you know, I think Kirby Moore was, you know,
• 36:39
  Speaker 7: he had a good presence about him.
• 36:41
  Speaker 3: I'm just talking to Caden Pinnock a little bit.
• 36:43
  Speaker 7: You know, he felt like he had the coach was,
• 36:45
  Speaker 7: you know, coach was supporting him and like making him
• 36:47
  Speaker 7: feel like, Hey, like you can get yourself out of this,
• 36:49
  Speaker 7: which is, you know, that's the most important thing just
• 36:51
  Speaker 7: in general.
• 36:52
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 36:53
  Speaker 7: Again, I think from offensive and defensive play, Colin, I
• 36:56
  Speaker 7: thought Trent Bray was real solid. And Matt Miller, I
• 36:59
  Speaker 7: think he can look at that and say, there's some
• 37:02
  Speaker 7: spots I could get better. There are some choices that
• 37:04
  Speaker 7: I don't know if that comes from Kirby Moore or
• 37:06
  Speaker 7: from Matt Miller, where at one point they got to
• 37:09
  Speaker 7: a third and two, and then there was an offside spell,
• 37:11
  Speaker 7: and then they accepted it, and so they took a
• 37:12
  Speaker 7: second and seven.
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I was going to ask you about that.
• 37:15
  Speaker 3: Exactly. Well, I don't know.
• 37:16
  Speaker 7: I mean, like I, I see why you would, right.
• 37:18
  Speaker 7: You have two downs to get seven yards versus one
• 37:20
  Speaker 7: down to get two yards. Like I get it, but
• 37:22
  Speaker 7: at the same time, then what's the play call after that. Right. Or,
• 37:25
  Speaker 7: you know, once you made that, you know, the big
• 37:27
  Speaker 7: drive down into the red zone where you got, you
• 37:29
  Speaker 7: ended up missing the short, the chip shop field goal,
• 37:31
  Speaker 7: you know, not a great set of play calling in
• 37:33
  Speaker 7: there also. So again, some, there's some moments where I
• 37:36
  Speaker 7: think everybody can learn and get better at the same time.
• 37:39
  Speaker 7: There's some moments where I was like, dang, that was,
• 37:41
  Speaker 7: that was real sharp. That was some real good stuff,
• 37:43
  Speaker 7: you know? So I, I, I overall positives and silver linings,
• 37:46
  Speaker 7: but they continue, they can continue to get better for sure.
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: All right, let's wrap it up with this. Alex, Kansas
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: state just whacked their opponent. The first game, Avery Johnson,
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: is he similar to demand a little bit?
• 37:57
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 37:58
  Speaker 7: I mean, yes and no, like definitely as, as electric
• 38:02
  Speaker 7: of an athlete, but a little bit different, a little
• 38:04
  Speaker 7: more linear athlete, like long strider. You just don't want
• 38:06
  Speaker 7: him to get going. He's not quite as maybe like
• 38:09
  Speaker 7: shifty as DeMond Williams is, but he will just, he
• 38:12
  Speaker 7: can just flat run.
• 38:13
  Speaker 8: Right.
• 38:13
  Speaker 7: And so, um, you know, he, he may not make
• 38:16
  Speaker 7: you miss in a box the same way, but if
• 38:17
  Speaker 7: you let him get involved in the run, they're going
• 38:19
  Speaker 7: to use him in the design run game way more.
• 38:21
  Speaker 3: Than Washington Williams.
• 38:23
  Speaker 7: Um, And so that's really what you got to be
• 38:25
  Speaker 7: aware of is like the design run. And then, you know,
• 38:27
  Speaker 7: they replaced a lot, a lot, a lot in NIL
• 38:30
  Speaker 7: replacing a lot on defense. Colin Klein is a really
• 38:33
  Speaker 7: good football coach. He's a, he was the former offensive
• 38:35
  Speaker 7: coordinator at Texas A & M came over, you know,
• 38:37
  Speaker 7: as the head coach was a quarterback at Kansas state before,
• 38:40
  Speaker 7: you know, so they're going to be a really solid
• 38:42
  Speaker 7: football team, a little hard to tell, you know, what,
• 38:44
  Speaker 7: what they're like after smacking nickel state 71 to three.
• 38:47
  Speaker 8: Yeah. Both coaches mutually agree to bring the clock down
• 38:55
  Speaker 8: on this game.
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well, if it was the Big Ten, they'd still
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: be playing with their clock, so who knows? MK, you've
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: got to have some confidence with this defense. Pick it
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: up where you left off. You just saw DeMond. Let's go, right?
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: It's going to be exciting.
• 39:08
  Speaker 8: I think they're going to smash him in the mouth,
• 39:09
  Speaker 8: but again, you're coming off this big emotional first game
• 39:12
  Speaker 8: on Montlake. I think Washington State's going to gear up,
• 39:16
  Speaker 8: pin their ears back, and here's how we set the
• 39:18
  Speaker 8: season up.
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: MK, you're in the Guild Mortgage Maple Valley office. People
• 39:22
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  Speaker 3: Come on by. I'm here all day.
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• 40:00
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• 40:07
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  Speaker 1: of that controversial contest. More in a second. SEC filed
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: an amendment complaint against LSU on Tuesday regarding the school's
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: potential plans to add former NFL players to its roster.
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: They have scheduled a vote of the conference presidents on
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: whether to expel the Tigers from the league.
• 41:33
  Speaker 9: Now back to Ian Furness on your home for the Huskies, Kraken,
• 41:37
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• 41:49
  Speaker 1: Well, let's get to a couple things. One, Aaron Donald
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: not playing on Thursday. Probably not a surprise.
• 41:57
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: Probably not a surprise.
• 41:59
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 41:59
  Speaker 2: The long trip.
• 42:00
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: Probably not a surprise. And wrapping them up. The only
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: surprise I would have with it is it's a significant game.
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: Divisional opponent. Very much. It's your home game. So that
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: makes it even more so because it is your home
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: game and you've You elected to play that home game
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: in Australia because we'll have Lund tell the story again,
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: but my understanding is they could have picked any opponent, basically.
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: They picked the 49ers because they didn't want the 49er
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: fans taking over SoFi.
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: The element, I also kind of can see the other
• 42:33
  Speaker 2: side of it, though, of why they did it. It's
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: because they wanted a divisional opponent to also have to
• 42:38
  Speaker 2: play in Australia.
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: Good point. Yep, very good point. We'll get into that
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: with Lund a little bit. I think it's a great point.
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: But yeah, so no Aaron Donald not making the trip there.
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: They're going to manage his snap counts and all that
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: stuff all year. But I don't know. Minus two and
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: a half now.
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: Chuck, you know.
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: Chuck, we have Factor Fiction. I should mention that again.
• 42:59
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• 43:32
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  Speaker 1: much like baseball games in April, May, and June when
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: it's early, still count the same?
• 43:47
  Speaker 2: Yes, they do. I have confirmed that, by the way.
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: So do Factor Fiction wins in the first week of
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: the season of a 14-week year.
• 43:55
  Speaker 3: Very true.
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: Now, you can screw around and not do well in
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: the first week and still come back, but you want
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  Speaker 1: to get as many picks as you can Anders has
• 44:01
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• 44:05
  Speaker 1: coming up. God, I am all on the college stuff
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: right now. This is great. This is awesome.
• 44:11
  Speaker 2: The SEC.
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: Well, the SEC saying, maybe we'll kick you out. God, really?
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: They're not going to do that, by the way. But
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: I just like the threat.
• 44:23
  Speaker 3: I'm in.
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: I'm in 100% on that. Stuart Mandel is going to
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: join us tomorrow for his weekly visit from The Athletic.
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: And we'll get into all that with him. The other thing,
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: the Mac attack. Good for you.
• 44:33
  Speaker 5: Huh?
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: Good for you. They're basically saying that they won the game.
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: And they did. There's nobody outside of some sketchy, crazy,
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: Big Ten, two hours later, edit the video however you want, video,
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: whatever's coming out. I'm going to tell you something right now.
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: I don't trust video two hours later. All right?
• 44:59
  Speaker 3: I don't.
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: My guy, our editor for the Kraken, for Kraken Hockey Network,
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: my man Stu, Stu Vichu.
• 45:05
  Speaker 3: Oh, good dude.
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: Stu's a great dude. If I gave Stu Vichu two minutes,
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: much less two hours, he could concoct anything video-wise, and
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: it's going to make your argument, and you're like, yeah, yeah, 100%.
• 45:20
  Speaker 2: This was off sides because at this point, the clock
• 45:21
  Speaker 2: was here.
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: Boom, boom, boom, boom. If I gave Stu two hours
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: to put that together, I'm telling you right now, you
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: could solve a lot of murder mysteries out there. Or
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: at least be convinced you just did.
• 45:30
  Speaker 3: That's true. Right?
• 45:31
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: So, you can't convince me or any... I'll tell you
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: right now. Anybody who has worked in television... If they're
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: being honest and they pay attention to what goes on
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: in television, Pat McAfee probably doesn't care because he's probably
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: never seen a production room, but TV people, if you say,
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: what could you do in two hours with video?
• 45:53
  Speaker 5: A lot.
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: A lot. Like I said, my man Stu, two minutes,
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: he'd be done. get it dialed in so but the
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: fact that Mac is just saying you know what here's
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: a middle finger for you NCAA college football I love
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: how they go to the college football playoff I like
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: that because the NCAA has no teeth we know that
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: no yeah but Michigan's one of those teams that fancies
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: itself a college football playoff contender.
• 46:17
  Speaker 2: Really after that performance and but.
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: What you know what at the end of the day
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: it's a win true but if it's not a win
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: and it's a blemish And it's to a Mac team.
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: College football playoff committee is like, yeah, that's a bad loss.
• 46:32
  Speaker 2: Well, and do you think there's any element of, hey,
• 46:35
  Speaker 2: you know, college football playoff, ESPN, SEC.
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: They don't like the Big Ten. There's a lot going
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: on here, buddy.
• 46:42
  Speaker 2: They would have a better chance to help us out
• 46:45
  Speaker 2: a little bit because it hurts a Big Ten team.
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: There's a lot going on. There's also a side of
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: me that while the stuff in LSU... is just kind
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: of maddening. It's like, what are we doing? You're trying
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: to play NFL players. Everything about the LSU thing is dumb.
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: The Mid-American Conference versus Michigan and the Big Ten, that's
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: college football. that's college football. Like the petty back and
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: forth on field stuff. That's college football. That's what we want.
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: That's what we need. Your officials are bad. We're not
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: going to have your officials do our game or vice
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: that kind of stuff. So the sport was built on.
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: I'm all in on that. Let's go.
• 47:33
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: The other stuff, NFL players, just think about dumb. That
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: is just gross. Everything about it. And, The second you
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: declare for the draft or step foot on an NFL
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: practice field, the fact that there's any sort of coming
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: back from that is.
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: They're different sports, but in baseball, player gets drafted, goes
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: to college. He's not in Peoria in the spring. He's
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: with his college team.
• 48:02
  Speaker 3: Right?
• 48:02
  Speaker 1: That's how it works. Same thing in hockey. The best
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: prospect the crack can have. Kid Chase Reed. He was
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: our first-bound pick last year. He's at Michigan State. He
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: won't be at training camp on Thursday. Benton won't be
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: able to bother him on Thursday. I'm Mike Benton here.
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: You know, because he's in college. He can't step foot.
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: But yet, the fact that Lane Kiffin is Lane Kiffin
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: makes it even better. Or worse. Well, yeah, but it
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: makes it better, more entertaining.
• 48:33
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: Because a lot of coaches, they'd be told by administration, presidents, whatever, hey, man,
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: back off. This is it. We're not doing this. We're
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: not going to pay for the lawsuit and all that. Lane,
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: he's only beholden to the governor of Louisiana. And he
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: has who he's beholden to. And that's fine. That's fine.
• 48:50
  Speaker 2: And then he brings it up in the postgame, and
• 48:52
  Speaker 2: it's like, God, come on, man.
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: And then his opponent on Saturday, Dabo Sweeney, today snapped
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: at a reporter asking, dude, you got boat raced by 51, man.
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: Shut up.
• 49:01
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's not.
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's all good right now.
• 49:03
  Speaker 8: Listen.
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: This is college football. This is college football. And we'll
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: check in with Mandel tomorrow. Again, tomorrow we'll be down
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: at Jimmy's on first all day, and it'll be a
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: ton of fun getting ready for Seahawks. Mariners playing tomorrow
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: afternoon as well. Speaking of the local baseball team.
• 49:23
  Speaker 2: Zoinks.
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: Speaking of the local baseball team, we will check in
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: with our friend Joe Sheehan coming up next. Talked to
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: him last week. A plant said would be better than
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: our guy in the dugout. We'll find out if he
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: still stands by that. Oh, I didn't see this.
• 49:42
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah.
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he's written some stuff already.
• 49:45
  Speaker 3: Okay, good.
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: We'll get to the Dan Wilson conversation and so much more.
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: Our man Joshi in all things baseball. John London, 2 o'clock.
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: We'll get his thoughts on Aaron Donald next.
• 49:59
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• 50:27
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• 50:34
  Speaker 1: a baseball fan. And I think we still have some
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: baseball fans left in our market. But I got to
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: tell you, Joe Sheehan.
• 50:40
  Speaker 2: Maybe not on this team.
• 50:41
  Speaker 1: I'll tell you what, Joe Sheehan. They have been soured
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: this year. They have been soured. Mariner fans have been.
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: How are you, sir?
• 50:48
  Speaker 5: Better than the Mariner's.
• 50:50
  Speaker 1: Well, that bar, sir, is very low. It's a very
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: low bar.
• 50:55
  Speaker 5: Here's what I don't like. Here's what I'm going to
• 50:57
  Speaker 5: take with me this year. I think we spent a
• 50:59
  Speaker 5: lot of the year frustrated by the offense, right? I've
• 51:01
  Speaker 5: said probably over and over, J-Rod, Raleigh, Naylor, all off
• 51:06
  Speaker 5: their game, probably seven to eight wins less than what
• 51:09
  Speaker 5: you would have expected. But this end of season collapse
• 51:12
  Speaker 5: is 95% on the pitching staff. And I never, under
• 51:17
  Speaker 5: any circumstances, saw that coming. This has been a bottom
• 51:21
  Speaker 5: five starting rotation over the last 30 days. I'm going
• 51:24
  Speaker 5: to ask you to pick a number and tell me
• 51:26
  Speaker 5: what you think their bullpen ERA is over the last
• 51:29
  Speaker 5: 30 days.
• 51:33
  Speaker 1: Nope, it's higher than that.
• 51:34
  Speaker 4: 5.55.
• 51:35
  Speaker 6: Raise.
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: Oh my, seven? You're almost there, 7.3.
• 51:41
  Speaker 5: My goodness. I knew it would have been bad. I
• 51:50
  Speaker 5: looked up the number this afternoon to talk to you,
• 51:52
  Speaker 5: and I was kind of stunned by it, that it
• 51:53
  Speaker 5: had been actually that bad. So it's not a lot
• 51:56
  Speaker 5: of mystery here. I mean, we talked a week ago
• 51:58
  Speaker 5: after that horrible loss in Fenway, and I was looking
• 52:03
  Speaker 5: ahead and saying, look, their last 22 games, 17 are
• 52:05
  Speaker 5: against terrible teams, and the other five are the teams
• 52:07
  Speaker 5: they have to catch. And they came and they won
• 52:10
  Speaker 5: the last two games in Fenway, and they came home
• 52:12
  Speaker 5: and they allowed 20 runs and 27 innings to the A's.
• 52:15
  Speaker 5: And that was... I'm not saying they're definitely dead. They
• 52:18
  Speaker 5: could rip off 18 out of 20 or whatever it
• 52:20
  Speaker 5: is that they've got left. But for them to come
• 52:22
  Speaker 5: home off those two games in Fenway, playing a team
• 52:26
  Speaker 5: that literally their top five hitters from their opening day
• 52:29
  Speaker 5: lineup are done for the season and give up 20
• 52:32
  Speaker 5: runs in 27 innings just absolutely tilted me.
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: The bullpen's an interesting dynamic because I just had Anders
• 52:39
  Speaker 1: double-check this. It's basically they added Ferrer. That's it, right?
• 52:45
  Speaker 1: They are relatively the same bullpen, right?
• 52:48
  Speaker 2: If not, they were supposed to be better.
• 52:49
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 52:51
  Speaker 1: How does that happen? Is it just much like the offense, Joe,
• 52:53
  Speaker 1: just regression all the way around? It's just they want
• 52:56
  Speaker 1: to join the party that the offense was regressing, so
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: they might as well do it too?
• 53:01
  Speaker 5: Well, they did trade for Ferrer at the peak of
• 53:03
  Speaker 5: his value. He had a great year last year. You
• 53:05
  Speaker 5: can expect some regression there. Eduardo Bazzardo, I think, has
• 53:08
  Speaker 5: been a big part of the regression there. He had
• 53:10
  Speaker 5: an incredible year last year. And I just keep coming
• 53:13
  Speaker 5: back to Matt Brash. Matt Brash was supposed to be
• 53:16
  Speaker 5: 1A and 1B with Munoz and Brash. And we've seen
• 53:20
  Speaker 5: him be utterly dominant at times. And when they lost him,
• 53:25
  Speaker 5: everybody had to move up. They didn't really have the
• 53:28
  Speaker 5: depth to fade that. You look at the guys they
• 53:31
  Speaker 5: brought up to be the fourth right-handed reliever, the fifth
• 53:33
  Speaker 5: right-handed reliever. And it's just really, they don't have that guy.
• 53:36
  Speaker 5: So it's weird. You think, oh, relievers, you know, what
• 53:40
  Speaker 5: did they lose? 45 innings of back brash this year.
• 53:42
  Speaker 5: But it was like taking out the key Jenga piece
• 53:46
  Speaker 5: that made everything else fall apart. And, you know, Munoz
• 53:48
  Speaker 5: hasn't been as good as he was last year either.
• 53:50
  Speaker 5: So everybody's a little bit worse. One incredibly important guy
• 53:53
  Speaker 5: got hurt. And I don't know. did we talk about
• 53:57
  Speaker 5: this in the summer? Cause I suggested when they had
• 53:59
  Speaker 5: six starters plus Anderson and Sloan, Hey, maybe you got
• 54:02
  Speaker 5: to bite the bullet and call up Anderson and Sloan
• 54:04
  Speaker 5: to pitch out of the bullpen. And they never did
• 54:05
  Speaker 5: do that. And I was like, you know, could that
• 54:07
  Speaker 5: have stemmed the tide a little bit? I understand from
• 54:11
  Speaker 5: a player development standpoint, you don't necessarily want to do that,
• 54:14
  Speaker 5: but this is a team that has lost so many
• 54:15
  Speaker 5: games in the seventh, eighth, and even the ninth that
• 54:19
  Speaker 5: maybe that would have been the thing that plugged the, uh,
• 54:21
  Speaker 5: plugged the hole. They got Dominguez in the, uh, in
• 54:24
  Speaker 5: the Castillo trade, but, you know, he's, he's the number
• 54:26
  Speaker 5: four right-hander in a good bullpen. They just didn't ever
• 54:30
  Speaker 5: figure out a way to replace Matt Brash. And that,
• 54:34
  Speaker 5: you know, it was a problem in the summer and
• 54:36
  Speaker 5: it became a disaster in the last 30 days.
• 54:39
  Speaker 1: Well, I mean, that's, and at the end of the
• 54:41
  Speaker 1: day for this team, you know, I mean, it's, it's
• 54:45
  Speaker 1: the frustration level for fans is, is understandable because, Because
• 54:50
  Speaker 1: I think what you just said, we've been watching the
• 54:52
  Speaker 1: offense all year, but now there's other issues. Because I
• 54:56
  Speaker 1: always keep coming back to, hey, don't look at the
• 54:59
  Speaker 1: run differential, don't look at the record, but games behind,
• 55:03
  Speaker 1: they're still in it. But as you're going through and
• 55:06
  Speaker 1: articulating that, Joe, I'm thinking to myself, wow. So the
• 55:10
  Speaker 1: starting pitching, if that's good, and it hasn't always been good.
• 55:13
  Speaker 1: They've had some bumps on the road, but that's going
• 55:15
  Speaker 1: to happen during the course of a year. But It's
• 55:18
  Speaker 1: not just the offense we're worrying about. We're worrying about
• 55:19
  Speaker 1: the bullpen. And if we go with what's baseball, I mean,
• 55:22
  Speaker 1: football's got three phases, right? Offense, defense, special teams. What's baseball? Pitching, hitting, defense.
• 55:28
  Speaker 1: I don't know if you split the pitching up, but
• 55:30
  Speaker 1: what you're telling me is they're leaking oil enough right
• 55:33
  Speaker 1: now that the hope is maybe even worse and longer
• 55:37
  Speaker 1: than I thought.
• 55:37
  Speaker 5: Yeah, when I do unit rankings at the start of
• 55:40
  Speaker 5: the year, it's offense, defense, starters, bullpen, which includes the manager,
• 55:44
  Speaker 5: and defense. And their defense is actually, I believe it's
• 55:48
  Speaker 5: actually last with a bullet by outs above average, which
• 55:51
  Speaker 5: is how stat cast measures it. I want to say
• 55:52
  Speaker 5: it looks slightly better by defensive run saves, but they've
• 55:56
  Speaker 5: put one of the worst defenses in baseball out there too.
• 55:58
  Speaker 5: So when we talk about the pitching, the pitching's not
• 56:00
  Speaker 5: getting a whole lot of support. Obviously, injuries have had
• 56:04
  Speaker 5: an effect trying to play Donovan at third. It didn't
• 56:06
  Speaker 5: really work out. He was hurt a lot of the time.
• 56:08
  Speaker 5: They called up Emerson. They did put him at short.
• 56:10
  Speaker 5: Emerson got hurt. Julio Rodriguez has had as strange a
• 56:15
  Speaker 5: year as Cal Rally's offense has been. That's how strange
• 56:18
  Speaker 5: Julio Rodriguez's defense has been in terms of a fall
• 56:21
  Speaker 5: off from somebody who's actually been very good. So everything
• 56:24
  Speaker 5: went wrong. And, you know, I spent a lot of
• 56:27
  Speaker 5: time picking on Dan Wilson. And most of that is tactical.
• 56:31
  Speaker 5: But I think there's something to be said for, hey,
• 56:33
  Speaker 5: there's problems here. Can you fix them on the fly?
• 56:37
  Speaker 5: Defense is a very hard thing to fix on the
• 56:39
  Speaker 5: fly because that really generally involves changing personnel. And if
• 56:43
  Speaker 5: you don't have personnel in your system, you really can't.
• 56:46
  Speaker 5: It's very hard to go out and trade for defense
• 56:47
  Speaker 5: in the middle of a season. So, you know, it's
• 56:49
  Speaker 5: just it's not even that they're like if they had
• 56:53
  Speaker 5: won 86 games and missed the playoffs by two, you
• 56:57
  Speaker 5: kind of look and say, you know what? They were
• 56:59
  Speaker 5: seven games worse than expected. They might not finish five.
• 57:03
  Speaker 5: They might not win 75 games. I mean, at this point,
• 57:05
  Speaker 5: even as weak as the schedule is, I don't trust
• 57:07
  Speaker 5: them to win any game they play. If this team
• 57:09
  Speaker 5: finishes 75 and 87, that's going to be 18 to
• 57:12
  Speaker 5: 20 games off of so many where I expect. And
• 57:15
  Speaker 5: that was high on them. So let's say it's 10
• 57:17
  Speaker 5: to 15 games off where a sensible person would have
• 57:19
  Speaker 5: had them. That is a huge miss. And I think
• 57:23
  Speaker 5: it's fair to say, you know, this is supposed to
• 57:25
  Speaker 5: be our peak, right? We've built this pitching staff. We've
• 57:29
  Speaker 5: got this core with Julio and Cal. We've even got
• 57:32
  Speaker 5: guys coming up. They called up Arroyo now. They called
• 57:34
  Speaker 5: up Montez who got hurt. They called up Emerson. It's
• 57:37
  Speaker 5: supposed to be happening now. And you start to worry.
• 57:41
  Speaker 5: Do you end up as the Orioles who made the
• 57:45
  Speaker 5: playoffs two years in a row, didn't win a playoff game,
• 57:47
  Speaker 5: and now they're rebuilding again? We talk about these windows
• 57:50
  Speaker 5: like they're going to be open forever. When you waste
• 57:53
  Speaker 5: a year like this with this roster core, it hurts you.
• 57:57
  Speaker 1: Joe, by the way, the Orioles are two and a
• 57:59
  Speaker 1: half games ahead of Seattle in the wildcard race, and
• 58:01
  Speaker 1: they're the last-placed team in the AL East.
• 58:03
  Speaker 5: That's the other thing. How can you be out of
• 58:06
  Speaker 5: the race in the 2026 American League? Do you know
• 58:08
  Speaker 5: how bad you have to play to fall out of
• 58:10
  Speaker 5: the wildcard race this year?
• 58:11
  Speaker 1: Well, and they have. You mentioned Dan Wilson. We do
• 58:15
  Speaker 1: thank you last week because you're– The potted plant ficus
• 58:21
  Speaker 1: ended up being a great promo that got great use
• 58:25
  Speaker 1: for the last seven days in our radio station.
• 58:28
  Speaker 5: I'm going to have somebody tasting my food now for
• 58:31
  Speaker 5: a month.
• 58:32
  Speaker 1: I don't know. That's a long way to go for
• 58:34
  Speaker 1: the Mariners to worry about that. We do the math
• 58:39
  Speaker 1: all the time in football. In the NFL, it's really simple.
• 58:43
  Speaker 1: Barring an NFC South like last year, which I'm going
• 58:46
  Speaker 1: to get to because that might be the AL West,
• 58:47
  Speaker 1: but usually that right-hand column, the loss column, you want
• 58:52
  Speaker 1: to be a playoff team in the NFL with a
• 58:53
  Speaker 1: 17-game schedule. Seven's probably the max in terms of losses.
• 58:58
  Speaker 1: You're probably 11. You better make sure 10 and 7,
• 59:02
  Speaker 1: and even 10 and 7 is going to give you
• 59:03
  Speaker 1: some trepidation and some nervousness.
• 59:05
  Speaker 2: CX missed it two years ago.
• 59:06
  Speaker 1: CX missed it two years ago.
• 59:07
  Speaker 5: I was going to say, the beast mode year, didn't
• 59:09
  Speaker 5: they go 7 and 9 to.
• 59:10
  Speaker 6: Make the playoffs?
• 59:11
  Speaker 1: That was, yeah, that was, yes. And that was like
• 59:13
  Speaker 1: the worst until the NFC South last year. It was
• 59:15
  Speaker 1: kind of similar. But by and large, and that's why
• 59:17
  Speaker 1: the AOS comes into play, but by and large, you know,
• 59:19
  Speaker 1: that's the number. So we kind of did the numbers
• 59:21
  Speaker 1: yesterday just for giggles a little bit on the show
• 59:23
  Speaker 1: on Monday. And just based on where they are right now,
• 59:26
  Speaker 1: if the Mariners right now to finish 15th, 500, and Joe,
• 59:31
  Speaker 1: you just talked about how far below that is expectations.
• 59:34
  Speaker 1: For them to finish 500, they would have to go
• 59:37
  Speaker 1: the rest of the way 14-4. That right-hand column, they
• 59:41
  Speaker 1: can only afford four more losses in the final 18
• 59:44
  Speaker 1: games to get to 82-80, 15-3. Neither one of those
• 59:48
  Speaker 1: guarantees you a spot. I don't think the wild card's
• 59:50
  Speaker 1: within reach. I think that's safe to say. Houston goes 8-10.
• 59:53
  Speaker 3: They're 81-81.
• 59:55
  Speaker 1: They go 9-9, they're 82-80. Texas goes 10-8, they're 81-81. 11-9,
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 1: they're 82-80. Is there any part of the Mariners that
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 1: are still in it? Are they really truly playing out
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 1: the string right now?
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 5: They have to go 5-0 against the Rangers and Astros.
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 5: That's the start of it.
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 3: Go 2-0 this week.
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 5: I forget.
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 1: 3-0 this week. It's 3 this week against the Rangers.
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 5: I'm sorry. This is the 3 game, and then it's
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 5: 2 against the Astros.
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 3: I've been getting it backwards all day.
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 5: Yeah, you have to sweep.
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 3: There's no.
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 5: You have to sweep this series. And then you have
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 5: to take the 2 from the Astros down the road.
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 5: But for now, if you lose 1 to the Rangers,
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 5: that's probably the end of it. Just because you've got
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 5: to make up ground. So it's pretty much... go 5-0
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 5: against those teams, and what does that leave?
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 3: 18?
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 5: Go 11-2 against the three awful teams left on your schedule,
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 5: one of which they just lost 3-4 to. That's the math.
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 5: But if you don't go 5-0 against the Astros and Rangers,
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 5: I don't think you can actually catch either one.
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 1: So really, tonight... Let me take that back.
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 5: I don't think you can catch both.
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 1: So really, what it says is, and we kind of
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 1: fought this yesterday, tonight, tomorrow, Thursday... Almost elimination games is
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 1: what we're talking about. I mean, just the math.
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 5: Mathematically, because you could, again, you could go two and one.
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 5: But if you go two and one, now you've still
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 5: got to make up, what is it, three games on
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 5: the Rangers with no head-to-head left, and you're still making
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 5: up whatever you've got to make up against the Astros,
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 5: whether it's five, six, four, whatever it's going to be
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 5: this week. The Astros are in Atlanta. So you would
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 5: hope that they would lose two out of three. You
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 5: can make up some ground on them, but it all
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 5: starts with, you've now fallen far enough behind the Rangers
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 5: that the Rangers are a problem. And that goes back
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 5: to losing three out of four to the A's. So yeah,
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 5: I think this is, it's five and O against the
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 5: Texas teams and then 11 and two against everybody else. Oh,
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 5: what's that? 16 and two. I think you get 16
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 5: and two, you take your chances, but that's what they,
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 5: that's with all of these horrible losses, whether it's bullpen meltdowns,
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 5: Dan Wilson meltdowns, or just showing up and, Completely no
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 5: showing three games against the A's. This is the spot
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 5: you're in. Can they do it? I've been saying to
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 5: you all year, I think this is the best team
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 5: in the American League. I think I've got to shut
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 5: up about that now.
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 1: Well, that's what I wanted to ask you, Joe. That's
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 1: what I wanted to ask you. Because we've always kind
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 1: of been on the thought of, hey, with that pitching staff,
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 1: the top three guys are going to go. You get
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 1: some bullpen help with the other two guys that don't go.
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 1: And in the American League this year, you know, maybe
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 1: just get in and you could do it. So I'm
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 1: asking you this.
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 5: 1,000%.
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 1: But Tampa, New York... Maybe the White Sox, probably not.
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 1: The Red Sox, they just took 2-3 to Seattle from
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 1: the Red Sox. Would Seattle really be a threat? Again,
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 1: let me preface this by saying, Joe, would a team
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 1: that is 10 games under. 500 with 18 games left,
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 1: are they really legitimately a threat in the playoffs?
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 5: It's a total reset. And what matters isn't your record
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 5: or your run differential or whatever happened through 162. It
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 5: is a best-of-three against Seattle. They win the division, probably the,
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 5: I don't know, maybe the Astros, maybe the Guardians, one
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 5: of those teams. I don't see any reason. Think about
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 5: putting Gilbert, Wu, Kirby out there against Hunter Brown, Moe,
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 5: and Larry, which is the Astros rotation. Think about playing
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 5: the Guardians, who typically get to the division series round
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 5: and score one and a half runs a game.
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 9: I don't.
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 5: I don't have any doubt that if you put the
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 5: Mariners into the bracket, you have a team that's a threat. Now,
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 5: the second round matchup will obviously be more difficult. But
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 5: if you're the sixth seed, you're actually going to draw
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 5: probably the White Sox if you were to advance. And
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 5: that's not the end of the world either. I mean,
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 5: the White Sox have been a great story, but they're
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 5: 73 and 67. So they're going to win that division
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 5: probably with 84, 85 wins, assuming they win it.
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 2: You're going again.
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 5: Start their rotation. You have Sean Burke. Davis Martin, who's
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 5: been slapped around for two and a half months now.
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 3: I mean, that's not.
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 5: Really a series that you go, Oh God, it's the
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 5: way we can win this. And then you're playing the
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 5: Yankees or the Rays probably in that, in that ALCS.
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 5: So the path of the American league, if you can
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 5: just get in is absolutely winnable, but you got to
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 5: get it. I I'm going to, cause cause on the
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 5: day on October 1st, September 28th, I guess everything just resets.
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 10: Yeah.
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 5: And it's one of the things I'm thinking about is
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 5: I look ahead to the playoffs and And I think
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 5: more and more, you've got to divorce yourself from the
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 5: full season statistics. And even I've been using since the
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 5: trade deadline statistics in recent years. And you've just got
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 5: to look at what's the team that's actually going on
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 5: the field. Just to pull an example, because I was
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 5: thinking about it. Take the Phillies, for example. Their season-long
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 5: statistics include Tyjuan Walker. And their season-long statistics include Adolis Garcia.
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 5: And their season-long statistics don't include Luis Urias. You've got
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 5: to evaluate the team as it's going into the playoffs.
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 5: And I think if I were to sit down and
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 5: evaluate the roster on September 28th, I'm going to have
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 5: the Mariners behind the Yankees and Rays. I'm not even
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 5: that sure about the Rays anymore. But ahead of the
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 5: Astros and right there with the Guardians and the White Sox.
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 5: I can't make this roster look that much worse than
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 5: those teams.
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 1: Which, here's the amazing thing. I was just thinking back,
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 1: you know, like you talked about the beast mode year, right?
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 1: In the NFL with the Seahawks. And that was a
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 1: massive upset. Like, it just doesn't happen, right? Like, those
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 1: games just don't happen. Yeah, like it just doesn't happen.
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 1: And then I'm looking back, so let's just look back
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 1: for giggles last year at the NFL postseason. Like, you
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 1: go into the postseason and... I'm trying to find the
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 1: game that was probably the best one. Panthers.
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 3: Rams.
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 5: Rams-Panthers.
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 1: Rams-Panthers. Ends up being a closer game than it should
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 1: have been, but there's no chance the Panthers should have
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 1: been hanging with them. They got a home field advantage
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 1: because they won the division, right? You kind of look
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 1: through there. The Steelers were an awful football team. They
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 1: played a home game because they won a bad division,
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 1: and they get boat raced by the Texans. The point
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 1: is this. Some teams or some sports you would have
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 1: no chance if you're really not a very good team
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 1: in the regular season. That's kind of what makes baseball
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 1: unique and fun, right? What you just said, the total
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 1: reset button and run differential and taking on teams that
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 1: are 30 games above 500, anything can happen just because
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 1: of the pitching, right?
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 5: I can't emphasize it enough. If you take the typical
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 5: separation in a first round, which is even a big one,
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 5: say 25 or 26 wins, well, that's one win a week.
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 5: If you reduce that down to a best of three
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 5: or a best of five, it's a rounding error. There's
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 5: just no difference. Between teams that are good enough to
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 5: get into the playoffs in a best of. And I'm
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 5: not going to say, well, the Dodgers have won two
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 5: in a row.
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 5: But before that, nobody had repeated since 2000. You know,
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 5: the Giants. The Giants won nine straight postseason series. But
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 5: they didn't make the playoffs in the other two years.
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 5: I mean, stuff happens. If you're throwing up dice, you're
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 5: going to come up with 12 sometimes. But I just can't.
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 5: the differences among these teams are just so small when
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 5: you're down to a best of three and a best
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 5: of five, just get in the tournament.
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 3: You know what?
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 5: They're going to be years. We're all the favorites. It
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 5: was 2004, 2024. Excuse me. We got the Dodgers Yankees
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 5: in the world series. That's going to happen too. But
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 5: the year before that, it was the, I can do that.
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 5: I can, I have the Rangers and the diving back.
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 5: Thank you. I'm getting old guys. You think about 2014,
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 5: where was the two wildcard teams, the, the Royals and
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 5: the Giants. They weren't the best teams that year, but
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 5: they got through the tournament. You got to separate the
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 5: regular season from the tournament. And I know I appreciate
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 5: that there are people listening to this right now going,
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 5: this moron will not give up on the Mariners. I
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 5: totally get it. But I got to just go by
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 5: what I'm seeing. And I'm seeing a team that the
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 5: frontline talent is still the third or fourth best in
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 5: the league. And if they just get on the field
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 5: on September 29th in a best of three, they're not
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 5: going to be that big of an underdog. I think
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 5: if you were to set a line now, and I'm
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 5: trying to picture the standard. So let's say they win
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 5: the division.
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 5: Because I think that's, you said earlier, I think that's
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 5: probably their best chance to get in is the winning
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 5: the division. They'll be the three seed.
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 5: They'll play the six seed, the last wild card, which
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 5: is the Guardians in all likelihood.
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 5: And I just look at the Guardians.
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 1: Just look at them.
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 5: How much, well, the Mariners are going to have the
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 5: better starters. They're going to have the better lineup. They
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 5: won't have the better bullpen, but not by much. This
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 5: isn't your typical Guardians bullpen. Best of three, go for it.
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah, the Guardians probably, I mean, the most likely would
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 1: be the Guardians. At home, too. The Jays or the Rangers.
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 5: That's a great point, Anders.
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they're at home. Well, they just lost three or
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 1: four at home, buddy. But still, like. This is a
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 1: fair point.
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 2: Oh, this is just like.
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 5: But Anders, they can use Brian Wu.
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 3: Oh, yeah, it's true.
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 1: Well, but I want Toronto. Now I'm daring to dream.
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 1: Give me Toronto.
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 11: No actually i that would be kind of that'd be
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 11: funny but and actually it probably would be well if
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 11: they get in they're gonna go on a roll and
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 11: they'll probably get a little momentum back and the fans
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 11: may buy back in maybe.
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 2: I mean it happened last year it did happen well
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 2: they were but.
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 1: Last year was so different.
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't think you want the Blue Jays.
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 2: I don't want the Blue Jays.
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 1: Well, because Anders is anti-Canadian.
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 3: Very much.
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he didn't like Canada. He didn't like Canada, so
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 1: that's why. Tell folks about the Joe Sheehan newsletter.
• 1:09:32
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• 1:09:35
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• 1:09:37
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• 1:09:38
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• 1:10:00
  Speaker 1: read it because you want to read it now. The
• 1:10:02
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• 1:10:03
  Speaker 1: the bullet points. Tell me if this sounds familiar, Anders.
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 3: You ready?
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 1: Okay. Top-heavy lineup. Let's see. A shortstop in his decline phase.
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 6: Okay.
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 1: A bullpen that has been unreliable at times and could
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 1: be reinforced in October by a rookie starting pitcher. I'm
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 1: going to leave that at that. Is that not the Mariners?
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 1: You've got to go to JoeSheehan.com. He's not the Mariners.
• 1:10:25
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• 1:10:28
  Speaker 5: Wild.
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 1: It's not the Mariners, though. I read that and went.
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 1: Okay. Hey, we'll check in with you next week, Joe.
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 1: Thank you so much.
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 5: Thanks, fellas.
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 1: That is Joe Sheehan. Joe Sheehan newsletter. JoeSheehan.com. Good stuff, man.
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 2: We don't normally do all mariners with him like we
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 2: did today, but it's worth it.
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 1: It's worth it, I think. Listen, I don't know. We'll
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 1: talk about it next segment. I mean, I don't know
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 1: if you're buying what he's selling or not. We'll do
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 1: that next.
• 1:10:55
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  Speaker 1: All righty, we're back. Before we go back to baseball,
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 1: Ian Rappaport gets the injury report, final injury report, before
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 1: everybody else apparently. Because 17 minutes ago he tweets... CXList
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 1: Nick Imanwari and wide receiver Torrey Horton as questionable for
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 1: Wednesday versus the Patriots. Ty Okada is out. So starting
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 1: safety Ty Okada is out. Imanwari and Horton are questionable
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 1: according to Ian Rappaport. We'll keep hitting refresh. I get
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 1: the injury report to three different emails and I've yet
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 1: to get it. Remember that little thing at the start
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 1: of Hard Knocks? National guys get a little bit earlier
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 1: stuff than the rest of us. They do. I think
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 1: those are the only ones that really matter for Seattle.
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 2: I take the Okada one as bad news, for sure.
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 1: I don't think even where he's playing. I think that's gamesmanship.
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 2: Even if it's actually any sort of possibility, I take
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 2: that as good news. Because I expected it to be
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 2: a little bit longer.
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 1: It could have been. Even where it could have just
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 1: been listed as out.
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 6: Right.
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 3: Exactly.
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 1: Now... Again, I'll just reiterate this. I think that's gamesmanship. Sure, sure, sure.
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 1: Because he was limited in practice, so you can play
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 1: around with it. Okada didn't practice at all.
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 6: Right.
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 1: So there's a difference there.
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 5: Yes.
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 1: So they're not skirting. They're not doing anything wrong. They're
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 1: not doing anything illegal. But they're making, if you're the
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 1: Patriots and you've got to think.
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 2: There's a chance.
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 1: Is there a chance that the unicorn plays and number
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 1: three's out there? And if that's the case, then you're
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 1: having to think about that up until game time. The
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 1: Torrey Horton thing is just frustrating as hell. Let's just
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 1: call it what it is. It's really frustrating. This player
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 1: has just so much potential. And this is no fault
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 1: of his own. No athlete wants to get hurt.
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah, the Rashad Penny thing, people blamed him for that.
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 1: That one drove me nuts. And I think it drove
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 1: me more nuts because I knew the kid pretty well.
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 1: We did a lot of interviews together. And I really,
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 1: I'm telling you, It hurt him more than it hurt
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 1: you guys.
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 1: You're unlucky, and I think that's the thing with Horton.
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 1: You know, sometimes you're just unlucky. It's not because you're
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 1: not in shape. It's not because you're not working hard.
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 1: It's just nobody wants to get hurt. Nobody tries to
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 1: get hurt. But the frustration comes from the fact that
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 1: when he did play.
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 2: He was dynamic.
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 1: Dude is really good.
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 1: And so if you've got to wait another week for him,
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 1: you're now thin at the safety position. DeAnthony Bell, I'm assuming,
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 1: will play. I would assume, and I'm sure he was
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 1: on with somebody in the next 24 hours, I would assume,
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 1: hardcore football-wise, that Tyrese Knight may fill a little bit
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 1: of the role of Nicky Minori down the box. Bell
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 1: or maybe Finley ends up being the guy in the secondary.
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 1: With the starts back there, you're just thin. It's just
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 1: not what you want going into the first week. But
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 1: the Horton thing, the other ones I expected, Okada expected
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 1: to be out and Imanwari, I expected him to be
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 1: questionable since the start of camp. You know, remember we
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 1: had that interview with Torrey Horton. What was it, Anders?
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 1: Maybe a week into training camp? I think maybe that.
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 1: Just really enjoyed the interview. He was smiling the whole time.
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 1: He's like, yeah, man, I'm back. I'm good. Last year
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 1: was brutal. You know, he tried to hide the injury
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 1: a little bit, which I, you know, not the most
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 1: prudent thing to do, but you can understand why the
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 1: kid wanted to compete. He wanted to be out there.
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 1: He loved that about him. Uh, but finally I had to, you.
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 2: Know, that's the general manager tosses you under the bus.
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's true.
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 3: Uh, exactly.
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 1: Uh, but you know, he wanted to be out there
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 1: and in the end he, uh, he was unable to
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 1: go and it's unfortunate. So hopefully it's just a one
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 1: week thing for him and he's back at it. Uh,
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 1: but that's, uh, that's what it looks like right now.
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 1: Do you buy with Joe Sheehan selling?
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 2: Um, Yeah, because he wasn't selling us that he expects
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 2: this team to go to the playoffs.
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 1: So it's really simple. I think what he's... For people
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 1: who missed it, if you go 5-0 against the Rangers
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 1: and the Astros.
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 2: Then you have a chance.
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 1: You got a chance.
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 1: But you gotta go 5-0. And he just said something
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 1: really interesting. And we look at it from such a
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 1: different lens because we're here. But he looks at it from.
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 1: The old 30,000 feet, he's, he's, you know, 3000 miles away.
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 3: Even more than, yeah.
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 1: But he looks at it from a different standpoint, pretty,
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 1: I would say fairly objective.
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 1: And, you know, as he said, tonight, tomorrow, Thursday are
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 1: almost elimination games.
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 2: And like people would, and he even explained this himself,
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 2: people will kind of scoff at his notion that the
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 2: Mariners would still be one of the best teams if
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 2: they made the playoffs in the American league and have
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 2: a chance to really do some damage. And after everything
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 2: that we've seen at this point, it's just so hard
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 2: to believe that. But the other reason why I'm buying
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 2: it is because if, and this is the biggest thing,
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 2: if they find a way to go 14-4 or 15-3,
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 2: that would mean that something clicked for them during this
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 2: last 18 games of the season. and maybe we would
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 2: feel so much better about this team if they had
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 2: that stretch of really good baseball leading up until the
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 2: end of the season. Combine that with the fact that
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 2: what everyone has been saying is this roster in and
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 2: of itself is the best in the AL West by
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 2: a long shot, is one of the best in the
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 2: American League, and would really only be countered by the
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 2: Yankees and maybe the Rays. If you were to go
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 2: on that stretch, put everything together, which I don't think
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 2: will happen, but if they did, I would believe that
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 2: this team could still do some damage in the playoffs,
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 2: which is crazy to think about.
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 1: I think we all believe that. If nothing else, if
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 1: they're in the National League, it feels different. I think, honestly,
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 1: if you're in the National League, Milwaukee is 89-56.
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 3: L.A.
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 8: Is 87-57.
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 1: The Braves are 85-59. And then you can drop down.
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 1: The teams are in the wildcard race. Philadelphia and Chicago
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 1: are both 81-win teams. Right now. Right now.
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 2: Not at the end of the season.
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 1: I mean, so you're looking at one, two, three, four,
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 1: five teams in the.
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 1: Maybe if Arizona gets hot. Anywhere from five to six teams... Hell,
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 1: you could have seven. You could have a 90-win team.
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 1: Now that I look at it, you could have a
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 1: 90-win team in the National League and not make the playoffs.
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 1: And in the American League, you're going to have one, two,
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 1: probably three 90-win teams. It's a lot easier path.
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it is.
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 1: National League, not so much. And I know Joe said
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 1: to reset it.
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 3: I get that.
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 1: But there is a body of work that tells you
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 1: a team's pretty good.
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 1: The American League is just so down right now. It's
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 1: wide open. And the matchup, as he mentioned, if you're
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 1: wildcard three... and you get Cleveland or Toronto in the
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 1: first round, you like your chances with home field advantage.
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 3: You would think.
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 1: You would think.
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 3: Maybe not.
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 1: Who knows? I don't know.
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 2: But again, this isn't that we believe the Mariners are
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 2: going to make the playoffs. I've been saying it for
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 2: a long time. This team's dead. They're not playing like
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 2: a team that thinks they can go to the playoffs.
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 2: But if they did, for whatever reason, something that I
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 2: don't think they can do, That would change everything. And again,
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 2: everyone pooh-poohs on the fact that, oh, minus this run,
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 2: this team is a 500 baseball team. Minus this run,
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 2: that's what baseball is. Everyone says the 2022 Mariners, minus
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 2: the 14 game winning streak was basically a 500 baseball team.
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 2: But look at the Phillies. The Phillies were trash before
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 2: they played this month stretch of insane baseball. Winning streaks
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 2: matter as much as losing three out of four to
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 2: the A's.
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 1: Yes, exactly. It's true. I think they all matter. Yeah,
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 1: they do. Again, we've gone through this before. There's 162,
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 1: but they all matter the same.
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 1: You know, they all matter the same. Okay. We'll take
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 1: a break. Come back. Our guy, John Lund. Moments away.
• 1:19:14
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• 1:19:27
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• 1:19:30
  Speaker 1: Ian Rappaport, who knows before the rest of us. I
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 1: feel bad for the beat writers that worked their ass off, man. Anyway, Seahawks,
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 1: Nick Emanuari, Torrey Horton, questionable for tomorrow. Patriots game at
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 1: Lumen Field. Safety Ty Okada is out. Travion Henderson, last
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 1: year's leading rusher for the Patriots. Kind of the two-headed
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 1: monster they have in the backfield. Ankle injury, he is
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 1: out as well. Speaking of out, he's really out. Aaron Donald,
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 1: he didn't even go to damn Australia. I'm out of here.
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 1: I'm not going to Australia. It's a long trip. I
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 1: didn't sign up for that. We'll see when we play
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 1: back at SoFi. We'll hang out then. He's done. I'm
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 1: not doing that nonsense. Mariners' three-game series begins against Texas tonight.
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 1: Six games back at AL West, leading Astros. According to
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 1: Joe Sheehan, must win the rest of the way through.
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 1: Patriots did sign Christian Gonzalez to a record-setting four-year, $ 135
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 1: million extension. Lots of news in the NCAA. SEC filed
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 1: an amended complaint against LSU on Tuesday regarding the school's
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 1: potential plans to add former NFL players to its roster.
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 1: They scheduled a vote of the conference presence on whether
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 1: to expel the Tigers from the league. And Mac attack
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 1: is in full swing.
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 2: They are attacking.
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 1: The Mac is saying, give us the win. Western Michigan won.
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 1: It was robbed from them. They wanted to count towards
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 1: bowl eligibility. They also told the CFP college football playoff
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 1: as well as the NCAA. Why is that? Because Kyle
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 1: Whittingham and the, Michigan Wolverines fancy themselves a playoff team,
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 1: although if you're on the committee and you watch that game,
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 1: you'd probably think otherwise. All right.
• 1:21:07
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• 1:21:07
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• 1:21:10
  Speaker 8: Okay.
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he just said, give me 90 seconds and call
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 2: right back.
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 1: Okay, we'll call him in 90 seconds. We'll move into hour.
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 1: That gives us a second to do something. Yeah.
• 1:21:18
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  Speaker 3: Let's go.
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  Speaker 9: Welcome to Ian's weekly visit with John Lund Unleashed. He's
• 1:22:18
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• 1:22:22
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• 1:22:27
  Speaker 9: the NFC West and dukes it out with Ian over
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 9: the Niners and the Hawks.
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 1: So let's unleash it. Now with John Lund, here's Ian.
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 1: My sources are telling me that you are also like
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 1: Aaron Donald. You said, I'm not going to Australia. I'm
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 1: staying here. Wake me up when the game's in North America, please.
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 1: Let's just do that. That's what you're doing. I mean,
• 1:22:54
  Speaker 1: why would you go down there?
• 1:22:54
  Speaker 6: Come on.
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 1: Come on.
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 6: Australia. Let's bed my men at work and get out
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 6: of here. Libby Newton-John, let's go.
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 3: What am I missing?
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 6: Get out of here.
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 1: I love what was Kyle saying today? 15 hours? What
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 1: was Kyle saying today? Kyle said something like he doesn't
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 1: change his watch or something. He doesn't change his clock.
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 1: What's he doing down there?
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 6: No.
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 10: Because there's going to be six days where games are played.
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 10: Coaches just are, you know this, they're such creatures of habit.
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 10: So like Kyle's like this day and this day and
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 10: this day is Tuesday and this day is Thursday. Because
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 10: he's just got it set up. So if it's like
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 10: a Thursday game, he's like, well, today's Tuesday. And it
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 10: totally confuses you because that's what he says. Like today's
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 10: actually this day, today's that day. And he doesn't know
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 10: what day it is. And so he's like, tomorrow's Thursday,
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 10: we play on Friday. It's just like the Australian people
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 10: are looking at him like, god americans are stupid like
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 10: you people are so stupid it's just it's one day
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 10: ahead like it's just it's one day ahead.
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 1: Like half a day it's it's like it's not that
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 1: hard we were trying to find the sound we can't
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 1: it's the best sound ever the little i'll look for
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 1: it the sound bite from jim harbaugh back in the
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 1: day when it was playing seattle it was like thanksgiving
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 1: it goes monday to tuesday to thursdays a friday friday's
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 1: a saturday you know and going through that don't just
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 1: think like that's what they think well and then i
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 1: go back to this one john like Even McDonald the
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 1: other day, he was referring to, well, today's Friday, but
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 1: it's not really Friday. We'll give you an injury report
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 1: on tomorrow, which is Tuesday, but that's actually a Saturday.
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, my God. But the thing is, if
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 1: you're an NFL coach, you're used to a Thursday game.
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 1: You're not used to a Wednesday game, and you're not
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 1: used to a Thursday game that's actually going to be
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 1: played at 10 in the morning on Friday in the
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 1: locale you're at. So it is a little confusing for
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 1: those guys.
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 3: I get it.
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 1: There are creatures.
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 10: At least it's the first game. Can you imagine the
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 10: way this whole.
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 6: Season is going to be?
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 10: There's a Wednesday, Thursday. They're just looking for world dominance.
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 10: I mean, honestly, this Wednesday game tomorrow that the Seahawks
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 10: and Patriots are playing, It's going to get massive numbers.
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 10: I was reading an article the other day. Somebody was
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 10: writing that, you know, this is a trial balloon for
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 10: the NFL. What's the trial balloon? Like they're going to,
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 10: it's the first game of the year.
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 6: It's a Super Bowl rematch. It's going to get massive numbers.
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 6: And then all of a sudden the NFL is going
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 6: to go, Hey, we can play on Wednesday. Remember when
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 6: I was thinking about this, remember when, who wants to
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 6: be a millionaire? Like they play like on every day.
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 6: And I was like, that was Regis overload. Like, I
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 6: don't need Regis that much in my life. But the NFL, like,
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 6: I know there's traditions who want to just keep it,
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 6: you know, Sunday, Monday, Thursday as it is, but they're
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 6: going to have Wednesday. And then, you know, I know
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 6: they have the sanctity of Friday for high school and
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 6: Saturday for college. Outside of that, I can see them
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 6: playing five days a week. They don't care about player safety.
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 6: They just want to make more money and dominate the world.
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 1: Well, the other part of it, too, is that they,
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 1: you know, they ended up, they play on Christmas now.
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 1: you know, which they used to not want to do, right?
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 1: They laugh at the NBA.
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 6: They're like, oh, really?
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 1: Just a middle finger to the NBA. Just a middle finger.
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 3: To the NBA, you know?
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 5: It is.
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 10: And you look at it, especially this year, like every
• 1:25:46
  Speaker 10: star the NBA has, like the NBA is trying to
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 10: bring out their big cannons. Like every single star they
• 1:25:52
  Speaker 10: have is playing on Christmas and it doesn't matter.
• 1:25:54
  Speaker 6: The NFL will crush them. Like just crush them. It's unbelievable.
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 1: It's fantastic. Well, then if they want to play on
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 1: a Tuesday or Wednesday, they're going to have a fight
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 1: on their hands because our friends, the Mid-American Conference, the
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 1: Mac attack is not going to be happy about that.
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 1: They're going to. They're going to go right after him.
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 1: I totally agree with them. Michigan, come on.
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 6: And I love Kyle Whittingham.
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 1: You and I know.
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 6: We both know Kyle Whittingham really well.
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 3: Great dude.
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 10: He is a great dude. But his seat would have
• 1:26:19
  Speaker 10: already been lukewarm, maybe hotter.
• 1:26:21
  Speaker 6: I mean, it's like, you can't lose that game.
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 1: And they lost. I don't think it matters.
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 6: They lost.
• 1:26:26
  Speaker 1: I don't think it matters. I think that if you're
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 1: a Michigan fan, you're like, who is this outsider that
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 1: just came in and basically lost to Western Michigan, if
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 1: not for a gift. I mean, that's, that's it. So
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 1: Aaron Donald's not going, we're probably not surprised. I'm assuming
• 1:26:39
  Speaker 1: when you're talking to 49ers people, they probably weren't expecting
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 1: to see him this week. Were they?
• 1:26:43
  Speaker 10: They actually, they were, I mean, they just thought they
• 1:26:45
  Speaker 10: were going to pull out on the stops, but you.
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 6: Know, I think it's a smart move.
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 10: It's kind of like, you know, we've been talking a
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 10: lot about should George Kittle play. I mean, he's coming
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 10: off an Achilles eight months ago and, should he play?
• 1:26:55
  Speaker 10: But you know, once they flew him over there, they're playing,
• 1:26:57
  Speaker 10: I mean, they didn't, they didn't fly Kittle and Bosa
• 1:26:59
  Speaker 10: over there so they could watch after a 16 hour flight.
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 6: So those guys are playing. I'm mildly surprised because it's
• 1:27:05
  Speaker 6: because of the game.
• 1:27:05
  Speaker 10: It is like, if they're playing, you know, a non
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 10: NFC West team that I, that I thought, okay, he's
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 10: probably not going to do that, but he's kind of
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 10: been toying with the media a lot and all that
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 10: kind of stuff. So I'm a little bit surprised, but
• 1:27:18
  Speaker 10: I mean, if you're the Niners, I don't know how
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 10: you feel about it, but Trent Williams made a great
• 1:27:23
  Speaker 10: point yesterday. He said, cause somebody asked him about Aaron
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 10: Donald's age and you know, Trent Williams is 38 and
• 1:27:28
  Speaker 10: Trent Williams goes, he's younger than me. I expect Aaron
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 10: Donald to be Aaron Donald. That's kind of how I
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 10: see it. I don't think Aaron Donald, I mean, is
• 1:27:34
  Speaker 10: he going to have a bit of a fall off?
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 5: Sure.
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 6: But he was one of the best defensive.
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 10: Players in the history of the game. So, you know,
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 10: I still expect him to be really good.
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 1: He'll be, he'll be at least good. I mean, he
• 1:27:44
  Speaker 1: may not be, you know, great, but good. Aaron Donald
• 1:27:47
  Speaker 1: is still a really good football player, right? Like that's a,
• 1:27:49
  Speaker 1: That's a really good point. I want to get to
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 1: your game in a second. We always joke around, and
• 1:27:54
  Speaker 1: this is the time of the year that it's even
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 1: more fun to do this with you as you sit
• 1:27:58
  Speaker 1: down there in the Bay Area and all things 49ers.
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 1: I mean, when people think of the 49ers, they think
• 1:28:02
  Speaker 1: of John Lund. Of course they do. That's what they think. What, what,
• 1:28:08
  Speaker 1: what's your thoughts on tomorrow? Because it was such an
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 1: easy Superbowl win. Now you add an AJ Brown to
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 1: the Patriots, right? They've got, that's maybe their offense. Maybe
• 1:28:18
  Speaker 1: we'll Campbell can block somebody, at least a player too.
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 1: I mean, what Vrabel had all the crazy distractions in
• 1:28:23
  Speaker 1: the off season. So what's your thoughts on tomorrow? I, I,
• 1:28:28
  Speaker 1: I shouldn't say this.
• 1:28:29
  Speaker 10: I just, I can't see Seattle losing, even though, you know,
• 1:28:32
  Speaker 10: you know, better than I do of who they lost
• 1:28:34
  Speaker 10: and the Bud Clark situation was unfortunate. I think it
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 10: just comes down to, you know, can you dare, can
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 10: you Darian price in that running game, do what they
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 10: did in the super bowl. And because that's what they
• 1:28:46
  Speaker 10: want to do. And it doesn't matter who's the offensive coordinator,
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 10: you know, that they want to play defense, not turn
• 1:28:51
  Speaker 10: the ball over, run the ball, play smash mouth football.
• 1:28:54
  Speaker 10: You know, I don't know how good the Patriots were
• 1:28:56
  Speaker 10: last year. It's no offense to them. I mean, they
• 1:28:57
  Speaker 10: went 14 and three, they have a really good quarterback.
• 1:29:00
  Speaker 10: But they played a pretty soft schedule, and they rode
• 1:29:02
  Speaker 10: it all the way to the Super Bowl. So to me,
• 1:29:05
  Speaker 10: how legitimate is New England is a big question.
• 1:29:07
  Speaker 6: How much will A.J. Brown help? And the other side
• 1:29:10
  Speaker 6: of it is, and you guys know this, how concerned
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 6: are they at corner is Seattle?
• 1:29:15
  Speaker 10: Because the fact that I know Terry and Arnold's a
• 1:29:17
  Speaker 10: long play and digs and all those kind of things,
• 1:29:19
  Speaker 10: but the fact that they're scouring for corners makes me
• 1:29:23
  Speaker 10: believe that they're not entirely comfortable. And the way that
• 1:29:25
  Speaker 10: they use Devin Weatherspoon is a little different. It's not
• 1:29:27
  Speaker 10: like he's going to go one-on-one versus– versus A.J.
• 1:29:30
  Speaker 3: Brown.
• 1:29:31
  Speaker 10: So, yeah, I think A.J. Brown has a lot to
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 10: say in this whole thing. But at the end of
• 1:29:34
  Speaker 10: the day, Mike McDonald's so good. I think they're even
• 1:29:37
  Speaker 10: going to be better offensively, not because Kubiak left, but
• 1:29:40
  Speaker 10: because it's, you know, they're just going to be comfortable running.
• 1:29:42
  Speaker 10: They're basically running the same kind of a scheme. So,
• 1:29:45
  Speaker 10: you know, at home, I just, I think it's going
• 1:29:47
  Speaker 10: to be really hard for New England.
• 1:29:48
  Speaker 1: I just don't, like, when New England got there last year,
• 1:29:51
  Speaker 1: and we know how they got there in the AFC
• 1:29:53
  Speaker 1: championship game. We know what happened. You know, Nixon's hurt
• 1:29:56
  Speaker 1: in the snow. I mean, all the stuff that happened
• 1:29:57
  Speaker 1: in that, The feeling throughout football was they're not the
• 1:30:02
  Speaker 1: best team in the AFC, but things went their way.
• 1:30:05
  Speaker 1: It broke their way. And I don't know how much
• 1:30:07
  Speaker 1: has changed just by adding A.J. Brown and Romeo Dobbs
• 1:30:10
  Speaker 1: as two receivers, if that's changed much. Draymond Jones is
• 1:30:14
  Speaker 1: a starter for them. He's another guy they added a
• 1:30:16
  Speaker 1: former Seahawk as a rush end. He doesn't scare you.
• 1:30:21
  Speaker 1: I just, but Seattle's got these, those issues are real, John.
• 1:30:24
  Speaker 1: Like the issues you just talked about, those are 100% real.
• 1:30:27
  Speaker 1: Like the secondary is a question. No Ty Okada, starting
• 1:30:30
  Speaker 1: safeties out. No, I'm guessing no Eamon Worreys. This is questionable, but.
• 1:30:35
  Speaker 1: I mean, he's been limited in practice. I can't imagine
• 1:30:37
  Speaker 1: they're going to throw him out there. Torrey Horton may
• 1:30:39
  Speaker 1: not play, so now you're down receiving depth-wise. No Horton,
• 1:30:42
  Speaker 1: no Bobo, so two of your top five receivers are out.
• 1:30:45
  Speaker 1: I mean, they do have a little bit of work
• 1:30:47
  Speaker 1: to do. That front's going to have to be great,
• 1:30:49
  Speaker 1: and Sam Darnold's going to have to do a couple things.
• 1:30:51
  Speaker 1: Darian Price is the great unknown because we haven't seen
• 1:30:53
  Speaker 1: him carry a ball since Notre Dame, and even when
• 1:30:56
  Speaker 1: he did at Notre Dame, he only had 113 carries, right?
• 1:30:58
  Speaker 1: I mean, that's the great unknown for them.
• 1:31:01
  Speaker 10: Yeah, and you know, Some of it, I guess, is
• 1:31:04
  Speaker 10: just the belief in Seattle and the belief in Mike McDonald.
• 1:31:07
  Speaker 10: I think that defensively he'll just find a way. But
• 1:31:10
  Speaker 10: the scary part would be, like you said, the other
• 1:31:13
  Speaker 10: thing it comes down to, as we know, and you
• 1:31:15
  Speaker 10: made a joke of it, which is can they protect?
• 1:31:17
  Speaker 10: And Seattle can still get after the passer. I mean,
• 1:31:19
  Speaker 10: I don't care if Boye Mafe is gone or whatever.
• 1:31:22
  Speaker 10: They're going to be able to get after the passer
• 1:31:24
  Speaker 10: if they can't protect Drake May in a better fashion.
• 1:31:27
  Speaker 10: then they're screwed. And then here's the other thing about
• 1:31:30
  Speaker 10: New England too, is, is Drake may just great against
• 1:31:33
  Speaker 10: bad teams.
• 1:31:34
  Speaker 6: He had a great year last year. I mean, he
• 1:31:35
  Speaker 6: could have been the MVP. Can he play against a
• 1:31:38
  Speaker 6: defense of this caliber?
• 1:31:39
  Speaker 10: Because like we saw in the playoffs, he didn't play
• 1:31:42
  Speaker 10: well in any playoff game.
• 1:31:44
  Speaker 6: He didn't play well in any of them.
• 1:31:45
  Speaker 10: Now, again, on the AFC side, whether it was a factor,
• 1:31:47
  Speaker 10: I understand that, but he was not good. He was
• 1:31:50
  Speaker 10: not the same quarterback that he was in the regular season.
• 1:31:52
  Speaker 10: So as we know about quarterbacks, a lot of it
• 1:31:54
  Speaker 10: just falls on his shoulders that he's got to be
• 1:31:56
  Speaker 10: a lot better.
• 1:31:57
  Speaker 1: Just looking through here. So the injury report finally just
• 1:32:00
  Speaker 1: came out. Christian Barmore is a starter on defensive line
• 1:32:04
  Speaker 1: for them. He is full participation, so he's playing. Ben Brown,
• 1:32:09
  Speaker 1: their backup center, is out, and Travion Henderson is out.
• 1:32:11
  Speaker 1: And again, for Seattle, Ty Okada is out. Nicky Minwary
• 1:32:14
  Speaker 1: and Torrey Horton are questionable. Everybody else that was on
• 1:32:18
  Speaker 1: the report earlier this week, A.J. Barner, Anthony Bradford, Josh Jones,
• 1:32:22
  Speaker 1: Julian Neal. And Emmanuel Wilson are all good to go
• 1:32:26
  Speaker 1: for Seattle. So, God, so weird, like early in the season,
• 1:32:29
  Speaker 1: you get 10 days off and you still have injuries
• 1:32:30
  Speaker 1: to worry about. All right, we'll see what happens tomorrow.
• 1:32:32
  Speaker 1: Let me get to your game. Because this is, I mean,
• 1:32:34
  Speaker 1: we can all sit back. Hopefully Seahawks fans will have
• 1:32:36
  Speaker 1: enjoyed a win yet tomorrow. And then now they can
• 1:32:39
  Speaker 1: sit back. Give us some thoughts. 49ers and Rams. I mean, that's,
• 1:32:42
  Speaker 1: all joking aside, the Rams are the super team. If
• 1:32:44
  Speaker 1: they don't go 17-0, it's been a disappointing season. But
• 1:32:46
  Speaker 1: what's the talk down in the Bay Area about this game?
• 1:32:50
  Speaker 10: Well, first of all, I think they're confident because Kyle
• 1:32:52
  Speaker 10: Shanahan has always come up with good schemes against, against
• 1:32:57
  Speaker 10: Sean McVay. They've in the regular season, they've been very,
• 1:32:59
  Speaker 10: very good in the, they did get beaten the NFC
• 1:33:01
  Speaker 10: championship game a couple of years ago, but they've played really,
• 1:33:05
  Speaker 10: really well. But the way that the, the way that
• 1:33:07
  Speaker 10: they've played well is the same thing that Seahawks have
• 1:33:09
  Speaker 10: figured out. And what the Rams did when they got
• 1:33:11
  Speaker 10: beat up by the.
• 1:33:12
  Speaker 6: 49ers is the physical nature of the game.
• 1:33:14
  Speaker 10: And the problem with the 49ers is they're They, their
• 1:33:17
  Speaker 10: defensive tackle rotation features two second year players and a rookie.
• 1:33:21
  Speaker 10: And then their, their edge rotation is Nick Bosa and
• 1:33:24
  Speaker 10: basically nobody.
• 1:33:24
  Speaker 6: They just, they don't have anything.
• 1:33:26
  Speaker 10: So you're going into a game against the Rams with
• 1:33:30
  Speaker 10: very little pass rush. And you're not sure if you
• 1:33:31
  Speaker 10: can stop the run. I just, you know, they got
• 1:33:33
  Speaker 10: Greg Greenlaw back. And so they have Greenlaw and Warner,
• 1:33:35
  Speaker 10: which is really good. They have a corner. You just
• 1:33:37
  Speaker 10: talked about this. I mean, nobody's more banged up than
• 1:33:39
  Speaker 10: the 49ers. Bernardo Green, one of their corners is not starting.
• 1:33:42
  Speaker 10: So while everybody's going to expect the Rams to come out,
• 1:33:45
  Speaker 10: you know, throw all over the place and everything, they're
• 1:33:47
  Speaker 10: just going to run the ball down the throat of
• 1:33:48
  Speaker 10: the 49ers until the 49ers.
• 1:33:50
  Speaker 6: Can show that they can stop it. And I'm not
• 1:33:51
  Speaker 6: sure if they can.
• 1:33:52
  Speaker 10: So offensively, they have a bunch of 30 plus year
• 1:33:55
  Speaker 10: old guys who I think are going to be fine,
• 1:33:57
  Speaker 10: but defensively they're really young other than, you know, they've
• 1:34:00
  Speaker 10: got both. So they've got Warner, they got Greenlaw, but
• 1:34:02
  Speaker 10: a lot of young players with a lot of, you know,
• 1:34:05
  Speaker 10: ifs around them. And I think that the one thing
• 1:34:07
  Speaker 10: that Sean McVay is really, really good at, as we
• 1:34:09
  Speaker 10: all know, is exploiting the, your weaknesses.
• 1:34:11
  Speaker 8: And I think the.
• 1:34:12
  Speaker 10: 49ers more than they've had in a long time, have
• 1:34:15
  Speaker 10: some defensive weaknesses that are going to be hard to
• 1:34:17
  Speaker 10: cover up. They brought in Raheem Morris from, you know,
• 1:34:19
  Speaker 10: long time.
• 1:34:20
  Speaker 6: Defensive coordinator all over the place. He was in Atlanta
• 1:34:22
  Speaker 6: last year.
• 1:34:22
  Speaker 10: So Raheem Morris is a really good defensive coordinator, but
• 1:34:26
  Speaker 10: you know, you got to have the horses and I'm
• 1:34:27
  Speaker 10: not sure that the 49ers do they'll score points.
• 1:34:29
  Speaker 6: I'm just not sure if they can stop the Rams.
• 1:34:31
  Speaker 1: We need them to win. Like we're, we're all Seahawks
• 1:34:34
  Speaker 1: are all 49er fans up here, right? Like, what the hell?
• 1:34:37
  Speaker 9: Yeah.
• 1:34:37
  Speaker 1: We need you guys to win.
• 1:34:38
  Speaker 6: Even without this game, you are.
• 1:34:39
  Speaker 1: I know all of you.
• 1:34:40
  Speaker 6: You're all closet Niner fans.
• 1:34:41
  Speaker 1: Everybody listening to this show right now is a huge
• 1:34:44
  Speaker 1: 49er fan. For one day. That one day is Thursday.
• 1:34:47
  Speaker 5: Yeah, one day.
• 1:34:48
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, can they win? Sure, they can win.
• 1:34:50
  Speaker 6: It's a three and a half point spread. It's going
• 1:34:52
  Speaker 6: to be a home game, by the way. it's all
• 1:34:54
  Speaker 6: 49ers fans down there and what we've heard and everybody.
• 1:34:57
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:34:57
  Speaker 10: We've had tons of people on from Australia and everything. Well,
• 1:35:00
  Speaker 10: they went down there for the week. They travel really
• 1:35:03
  Speaker 10: well or well.
• 1:35:03
  Speaker 6: The Rams don't have any fans. Like how could the
• 1:35:05
  Speaker 6: Rams fans travel when they don't even have fans in LA? So,
• 1:35:09
  Speaker 6: I mean, that's an advantage to have a home field.
• 1:35:11
  Speaker 6: I also think it's an advantage. I could be wrong.
• 1:35:13
  Speaker 6: I've covered two of these in London.
• 1:35:15
  Speaker 10: And I can't imagine the Rams playing like the.
• 1:35:17
  Speaker 6: Day they, you know, the next day they get in,
• 1:35:19
  Speaker 6: I just, man, I.
• 1:35:20
  Speaker 10: Think that's going to be rough. So I think the
• 1:35:21
  Speaker 10: advantage will be to the 49ers. They're acclimated, but at
• 1:35:24
  Speaker 10: the end of the day, you got to execute and
• 1:35:25
  Speaker 10: you gotta be, you gotta be good. So look, I
• 1:35:28
  Speaker 10: think there's a stat out there that I think is
• 1:35:30
  Speaker 10: a really good one, which is the Rams are plus
• 1:35:32
  Speaker 10: 500 to win the super bowl in the history of
• 1:35:35
  Speaker 10: the NFL. There's been 20 teams who have been favored
• 1:35:37
  Speaker 10: to that extent or more, and they're over 20. So
• 1:35:40
  Speaker 10: everybody who's just already given the Rams the Super Bowl,
• 1:35:44
  Speaker 10: history tells you at least 20 times over that that's
• 1:35:46
  Speaker 10: not the case. Things can happen. You get one injury
• 1:35:49
  Speaker 10: to Matthew Stafford. We know that there's injuries, as you
• 1:35:52
  Speaker 10: just pointed out, in the league, in this game, in football.
• 1:35:54
  Speaker 10: It's not if you're going to get an injury. It's
• 1:35:56
  Speaker 10: when and how long and at what point in the season.
• 1:35:58
  Speaker 10: So they're an older team that doesn't have a lot
• 1:36:01
  Speaker 10: of depth. That's the main issue against the Rams. And
• 1:36:04
  Speaker 10: here's the other thing that I was talking to a
• 1:36:06
  Speaker 10: friend of mine who covers the Rams the other day.
• 1:36:09
  Speaker 10: Their special teams stink. And the one thing, and the
• 1:36:12
  Speaker 10: Seahawks took advantage of this in every game they played
• 1:36:14
  Speaker 10: them last year, especially the last two in Seattle. Special
• 1:36:17
  Speaker 10: teams are massive. And the best team.
• 1:36:19
  Speaker 6: In special teams in the league last year was Seattle.
• 1:36:21
  Speaker 10: The second best team was the 49ers. And so they
• 1:36:24
  Speaker 10: take advantage of special teams. So if it comes down
• 1:36:26
  Speaker 10: to a close game, special teams could absolutely decide it.
• 1:36:30
  Speaker 11: All right.
• 1:36:31
  Speaker 1: So in addition to being 49er fans up here feeling
• 1:36:34
  Speaker 1: dirty about that, I got another issue.
• 1:36:37
  Speaker 6: This is the best part.
• 1:36:39
  Speaker 1: I got another issue. And I didn't listen to you.
• 1:36:43
  Speaker 1: And then last night I looked back at this and
• 1:36:45
  Speaker 1: I was just like, why did I not listen? So
• 1:36:48
  Speaker 1: I'm just going to give the numbers. Christian McCaffrey, all right,
• 1:36:53
  Speaker 1: touches from scrimmage, basically receptions and rush attempts.
• 1:36:57
  Speaker 8: 403 in 2019, just 76.
• 1:36:58
  Speaker 3: The next season.
• 1:36:59
  Speaker 1: Then just 136 the next year. 329 in 2022. 118
• 1:37:06
  Speaker 1: the next year.
• 1:37:06
  Speaker 3: 339 in 23. 65 in 24.
• 1:37:06
  Speaker 1: 413 in 2025.
• 1:37:07
  Speaker 3: What will 2026 hold?
• 1:37:07
  Speaker 1: And somehow I took that guy in the fantasy football draft.
• 1:37:09
  Speaker 1: He was sitting there at 11, John. I had to
• 1:37:12
  Speaker 1: take him. But history now tells me that I'm screwed.
• 1:37:26
  Speaker 10: Before I tell you what's going to happen, before I
• 1:37:28
  Speaker 10: tell you what's going to happen, what has been the
• 1:37:29
  Speaker 10: reaction in Seattle?
• 1:37:31
  Speaker 6: Because this is a great.
• 1:37:32
  Speaker 10: Topic and I need to even use it today, but
• 1:37:33
  Speaker 10: I'm going to use it. But like, what do people
• 1:37:36
  Speaker 10: do at a fantasy? Because I'm only, I'm in two leagues.
• 1:37:38
  Speaker 10: I'm in one with a bunch of guys that I
• 1:37:41
  Speaker 10: went to college with and we've been doing this forever.
• 1:37:43
  Speaker 10: And then I have a family one that we play
• 1:37:45
  Speaker 10: for a dinner at the end of the year in
• 1:37:46
  Speaker 10: the house.
• 1:37:48
  Speaker 6: But, like, you can't play– here's the thing. You cannot
• 1:37:51
  Speaker 6: play fantasy football with your heart. You cannot.
• 1:37:53
  Speaker 9: No.
• 1:37:54
  Speaker 10: So you can't just gather a bunch of guys from
• 1:37:56
  Speaker 10: your team or, in this case, avoid other guys. Like,
• 1:37:59
  Speaker 10: if you're sitting there and McCaffrey's.
• 1:38:01
  Speaker 6: 11, come on. You've got to take him.
• 1:38:02
  Speaker 10: Like, you can hate the Niners all you want, and
• 1:38:05
  Speaker 10: I know you feel dirty and disgusting, but you're going
• 1:38:07
  Speaker 10: to have to root for him this year.
• 1:38:08
  Speaker 1: Who's the backup? Who's the backup? Because I'm going to
• 1:38:09
  Speaker 1: have to claim him as soon as he gets hurt.
• 1:38:11
  Speaker 3: Ryan Robinson, Jr.
• 1:38:12
  Speaker 6: Oh, God.
• 1:38:12
  Speaker 1: Is it still Robinson? Is it really?
• 1:38:15
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 1:38:15
  Speaker 6: Speaker 4 0 No, he's gone. Kaylin black is the
• 1:38:17
  Speaker 6: backup from Indiana.
• 1:38:19
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:38:19
  Speaker 3: Okay. Okay.
• 1:38:20
  Speaker 10: They liked them a lot, but here's the problem. This
• 1:38:22
  Speaker 10: happens every year and this is good for you. As
• 1:38:24
  Speaker 10: long as he can stay healthy every year, Kyle Shanahan
• 1:38:27
  Speaker 10: says the same thing.
• 1:38:28
  Speaker 6: We're going to give him a rest. We're going to
• 1:38:29
  Speaker 6: give him all this kind of stuff.
• 1:38:31
  Speaker 10: And now Christian McCaffrey is 30 and he just can't
• 1:38:34
  Speaker 10: help it.
• 1:38:34
  Speaker 5: He did.
• 1:38:35
  Speaker 6: Kyle just cannot help it because he can run catch.
• 1:38:37
  Speaker 6: He can do everything. And so he's an older version.
• 1:38:40
  Speaker 6: Everybody wants to be John Robinson or Gibbs at the top.
• 1:38:42
  Speaker 6: I understand that. But as you said, nobody touches the
• 1:38:45
  Speaker 6: ball more than McCaffrey. And every year Kyle says the
• 1:38:48
  Speaker 6: same thing.
• 1:38:48
  Speaker 10: We're going to get him less carries or less touches, whatever.
• 1:38:51
  Speaker 10: He can't help it. And this year, he's basically got
• 1:38:53
  Speaker 10: two rookies.
• 1:38:54
  Speaker 6: As the running backs.
• 1:38:56
  Speaker 10: And like you said, he had Brian Robinson last year.
• 1:38:58
  Speaker 10: He's had veterans who have had success in this league
• 1:39:00
  Speaker 10: behind McCaffrey, and.
• 1:39:02
  Speaker 6: He still doesn't use them. So do you think he's
• 1:39:04
  Speaker 6: going to use a rookie? I don't see it.
• 1:39:06
  Speaker 3: I just don't see it.
• 1:39:07
  Speaker 6: He's going to do what he always does. He's going
• 1:39:10
  Speaker 6: to have a million touches.
• 1:39:11
  Speaker 1: Well, until the substation gets him, and then I'm going
• 1:39:14
  Speaker 1: to be calling you on a Tuesday pissed off at
• 1:39:16
  Speaker 1: the world.
• 1:39:17
  Speaker 10: Kalen Black is the guy. They like him, but he's
• 1:39:21
  Speaker 10: not McCaffrey.
• 1:39:22
  Speaker 1: I think I'm going to make a roster move right
• 1:39:24
  Speaker 1: now and get myself some Kalen Black somehow as an
• 1:39:26
  Speaker 1: insurance policy. Do you have him too, Andrew? Do you
• 1:39:29
  Speaker 1: have McCaffrey too?
• 1:39:30
  Speaker 2: No, but grabbing his backup is always a good call.
• 1:39:34
  Speaker 1: Listen, I, for the most part, don't use emotion. I mean,
• 1:39:37
  Speaker 1: I picked a Husky. I took Roma Dunzay. I got
• 1:39:40
  Speaker 1: the Roma Dunzay experience coming my way. Good luck with that.
• 1:39:42
  Speaker 1: That'll be fun. That'll be really fun. All right. We'll
• 1:39:45
  Speaker 1: talk to you next week. By that time, we'll have
• 1:39:47
  Speaker 1: games in the back pocket. We'll be able to BS
• 1:39:50
  Speaker 1: about it a little bit more. We're hoping a 49ers 1-0,
• 1:39:52
  Speaker 1: Seahawks 1-0, and away we go, my friend. Thank you.
• 1:39:56
  Speaker 6: I'm looking forward to it, man. Now it begins.
• 1:39:58
  Speaker 1: Are you doing radio this weekend on national stuff again?
• 1:40:03
  Speaker 9: Yes.
• 1:40:04
  Speaker 8: Oh, God.
• 1:40:04
  Speaker 3: Don't call.
• 1:40:05
  Speaker 1: Don't call.
• 1:40:06
  Speaker 6: They moved me up, by the way.
• 1:40:07
  Speaker 10: I'm doing afternoons now. They want me to talk about
• 1:40:10
  Speaker 10: college football, so I'll be calling you. I don't know either.
• 1:40:13
  Speaker 1: Just give me a call.
• 1:40:14
  Speaker 6: I did watch the Apple Cup, though, by the way,
• 1:40:15
  Speaker 6: but you don't want to talk about the Apple Cup?
• 1:40:17
  Speaker 1: We got to go.
• 1:40:17
  Speaker 3: We got to go.
• 1:40:18
  Speaker 1: We got to go.
• 1:40:19
  Speaker 6: Nice offense. That's a quality quarterback you have back there.
• 1:40:22
  Speaker 1: Shut up.
• 1:40:22
  Speaker 3: We got to go.
• 1:40:24
  Speaker 1: Put him on hold, please. Put him on hold. I can't.
• 1:40:27
  Speaker 1: Put him on hold. Hey, by the way, wait, wait. Actually,
• 1:40:31
  Speaker 1: we should talk... Where'd you go to get Utah State, right?
• 1:40:35
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I didn't see that score. I don't know what
• 1:40:37
  Speaker 6: you're talking about.
• 1:40:38
  Speaker 3: I have no.
• 1:40:39
  Speaker 10: Idea where you're going. We're supposed to suck. Okay, we're
• 1:40:43
  Speaker 10: supposed to suck.
• 1:40:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but you've got Bronco Mendel as your coach.
• 1:40:45
  Speaker 6: You're supposed to win the Pac-12, aren't you?
• 1:40:46
  Speaker 1: You've got Bronco Mendel as your coach, dude. And you're
• 1:40:49
  Speaker 1: coming up here to play Washington this weekend. And guess
• 1:40:51
  Speaker 1: what Jed likes to do? Jed likes to roll up
• 1:40:52
  Speaker 1: the score, man.
• 1:40:54
  Speaker 6: He's really fallen off. God, he coached BYU, Virginia, and
• 1:40:57
  Speaker 6: now he's at Utah State. It's like, dude, hang it up.
• 1:41:00
  Speaker 6: Utah State's like up-and-comers. You've already coached good teams.
• 1:41:04
  Speaker 1: Not has-beens?
• 1:41:04
  Speaker 6: You don't have enough money or what?
• 1:41:06
  Speaker 3: Jeez.
• 1:41:07
  Speaker 6: Retire.
• 1:41:08
  Speaker 1: Okay. Take that job.
• 1:41:10
  Speaker 3: Lord. We'll see you later.
• 1:41:11
  Speaker 1: We'll recap it all next Tuesday. There you go. That's
• 1:41:13
  Speaker 1: John Lund, ladies and gentlemen. You can listen to him
• 1:41:15
  Speaker 1: on Westwood one of the weekends as well. All right,
• 1:41:16
  Speaker 1: we'll take a break. Come back. Factor Fiction, Anders Pick,
• 1:41:18
  Speaker 1: moments away.
• 1:41:22
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• 1:41:38
  Speaker 12: The Mariners could sweep the Texas Rangers 90-0 this weekend,
• 1:41:46
  Speaker 12: and it would still show me absolutely nothing. There's a
• 1:41:50
  Speaker 12: whole body of work on this team, and nothing, absolutely nothing,
• 1:41:56
  Speaker 12: is going to change.
• 1:41:57
  Speaker 5: My mind on that.
• 1:41:59
  Speaker 12: I want 100% change at every single level, except for
• 1:42:05
  Speaker 12: the owner, which will never happen.
• 1:42:06
  Speaker 1: Later.
• 1:42:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:42:11
  Speaker 1: I got a couple of American texts I'll get to
• 1:42:13
  Speaker 1: in a second. You got one more?
• 1:42:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I just don't think it's coming.
• 1:42:15
  Speaker 3: No. No.
• 1:42:16
  Speaker 13: All right.
• 1:42:17
  Speaker 3: Ready? Yeah. Are you ready?
• 1:42:18
  Speaker 5: Ready.
• 1:42:19
  Speaker 2: Are you ready ready? Are you fully ready?
• 1:42:23
  Speaker 3: Fully ready.
• 1:42:24
  Speaker 14: Ian Jess, Anders Jackson, Factual Feltz here, checking in by
• 1:42:26
  Speaker 14: special request, and here to announce my starting fantasy football lineup.
• 1:42:29
  Speaker 4: Pele, Messe, Rinalde, Dempsey, Mbappe, and sweet Pat Swayze. I
• 1:42:32
  Speaker 4: know what you're thinking.
• 1:42:33
  Speaker 5: Furious.
• 1:42:33
  Speaker 14: None of these people are playing in the NFL, but
• 1:42:35
  Speaker 14: it's going to be a little hard to bring that
• 1:42:36
  Speaker 14: up when old Feltz is shoving his starting lineup right
• 1:42:38
  Speaker 14: up your supplemental slot. Anders, get the breaking news, Sounders,
• 1:42:41
  Speaker 14: for I have seen the future, and I have just
• 1:42:42
  Speaker 14: become Factual Feltz, a.k.a. the Factor Fishing Champ. 2026, so
• 1:42:45
  Speaker 14: cut the check. 10K, no taxes or else, and I'm
• 1:42:48
  Speaker 14: spending it on the only two things that Feltz knows.
• 1:42:50
  Speaker 14: Sex and Sounders, baby. Sounders at 730.
• 1:42:58
  Speaker 1: Oh, God. Every time I think it's the best, he
• 1:43:02
  Speaker 1: just tops it.
• 1:43:03
  Speaker 2: Oh, that's so good.
• 1:43:05
  Speaker 3: Every time.
• 1:43:07
  Speaker 1: We're sitting in a staff meeting today. I looked over
• 1:43:09
  Speaker 1: at Jackson. Honest to God, the only thing I could
• 1:43:11
  Speaker 1: think of is the guy imitating him. That's all I
• 1:43:15
  Speaker 1: could think of. I was just like thinking.
• 1:43:18
  Speaker 2: I was like, oh.
• 1:43:20
  Speaker 1: I'm looking at him going, oh.
• 1:43:22
  Speaker 2: Factual felts this time. We still need fantasy felts.
• 1:43:25
  Speaker 13: Oh, God.
• 1:43:26
  Speaker 2: But still, that's fantastic.
• 1:43:27
  Speaker 1: Softy will want to hear that one. Let me get
• 1:43:30
  Speaker 1: a couple texts. We'll get to that with Softy. A
• 1:43:33
  Speaker 1: couple texts. 4-2-5. Worst thing that can happen for the Mariners.
• 1:43:37
  Speaker 1: They go 14-4. When the AL West, that happens, they'll
• 1:43:38
  Speaker 1: call it a mulligan and everyone's back. I just think
• 1:43:42
  Speaker 1: that's 100% true. Is it the worst thing? If they
• 1:43:46
  Speaker 1: win the division and go to the playoffs? No, I
• 1:43:47
  Speaker 1: think I still want... I mean, if you're a fan,
• 1:43:49
  Speaker 1: don't you want them to win? But there's these people
• 1:43:51
  Speaker 1: that are torn between winning and wanting everybody turfed. But...
• 1:43:56
  Speaker 1: I know, I know, I know It's not going to happen.
• 1:43:59
  Speaker 2: Just so you know, if they lose every single game
• 1:44:01
  Speaker 2: the rest of the year, I still think Jerry DiPoto's
• 1:44:03
  Speaker 2: back next year.
• 1:44:03
  Speaker 1: I'm going to read this last text here, and I'm hoping,
• 1:44:06
  Speaker 1: I'm trying to go through it real fast, make sure
• 1:44:08
  Speaker 1: I don't, okay, just get the dump button ready just
• 1:44:09
  Speaker 1: in case.
• 1:44:10
  Speaker 3: Yep.
• 1:44:10
  Speaker 1: I sent this to you last Thursday. I think it
• 1:44:12
  Speaker 1: held up pretty well. We're in an abusive relationship with
• 1:44:14
  Speaker 1: this ball club. We moved out of the apartment after
• 1:44:16
  Speaker 1: finding her Tinder profile, a.k.a. getting swept in Toronto.
• 1:44:19
  Speaker 9: Yep.
• 1:44:19
  Speaker 1: But after a night of taking things, talking things through,
• 1:44:22
  Speaker 1: she takes you on a weekend getaway to the Oregon coast,
• 1:44:24
  Speaker 1: and you get things back on track. Two or three
• 1:44:26
  Speaker 1: in Boston.
• 1:44:26
  Speaker 7: Boston, yeah.
• 1:44:27
  Speaker 1: Just for her to come home, upcoming homestand, freak out
• 1:44:30
  Speaker 1: and pull an Amber Heard on your pillow. And with that,
• 1:44:36
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• 1:44:40
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• 1:45:20
  Speaker 1: 7.35 a.m., 11.35 a.m., 2.35 p.m., 3.35 p.m., we give
• 1:45:21
  Speaker 1: you a game. Producer, host, whoever it might be. Whether
• 1:45:31
  Speaker 1: it's picking against or with the spreads, over, under, whatever
• 1:45:35
  Speaker 1: it might be, we give you a game in college
• 1:45:37
  Speaker 1: or the NFL. We give you a pick. If you
• 1:45:41
  Speaker 1: agree with that pick, you text the word FACT, F-A-C-T, FACT,
• 1:45:46
  Speaker 1: to 49451. If you disagree, you text the word FICTION.
• 1:45:53
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• 1:45:55
  Speaker 2: Yes, you can.
• 1:45:55
  Speaker 1: 49451. You'll get a bounce back. It'll say, hey, thank
• 1:46:00
  Speaker 1: you for your pick of Fact or Fiction. The next
• 1:46:02
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• 1:46:04
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• 1:46:07
  Speaker 1: away every week to one person who has at least
• 1:46:10
  Speaker 1: one correct pick. The more correct picks, the better chance
• 1:46:13
  Speaker 1: to win $ 1, 000. At the end of the year, though,
• 1:46:14
  Speaker 1: this is the thing. It's cumulative. Whoever has the most
• 1:46:18
  Speaker 1: correct picks after 14 weeks wins $ 10, 000. And much like
• 1:46:22
  Speaker 1: Major League Baseball, Anders, much like Major League Baseball, Games
• 1:46:27
  Speaker 1: in weeks 1 through 4, in fact, are fiction. They
• 1:46:29
  Speaker 1: count the same as weeks 10 through 14.
• 1:46:32
  Speaker 2: Yes, they do.
• 1:46:33
  Speaker 1: Much like a win or a loss in April, we'll
• 1:46:35
  Speaker 1: count the same as a win or a loss in September.
• 1:46:38
  Speaker 1: Play often. Text in. Very simple. $ 1, 000 every week is
• 1:46:43
  Speaker 1: given away. We've had people win it that had one
• 1:46:45
  Speaker 1: correct pick. We've had people win it that had 15
• 1:46:48
  Speaker 1: correct picks. Fire away your thoughts. Okay, here we go.
• 1:46:52
  Speaker 1: Anderson Hurst, you have the floor.
• 1:46:55
  Speaker 2: I'm just going to say the pick first so everyone
• 1:46:57
  Speaker 2: can get it in. I'm going to take Detroit minus
• 1:47:00
  Speaker 2: six and a half at home versus New Orleans in
• 1:47:03
  Speaker 2: the opener. I think Detroit's really good this year. I
• 1:47:06
  Speaker 2: talked a little bit about it with our draft this
• 1:47:10
  Speaker 2: morning on the Chuck Powell extravaganza where we draft NFL over-unders.
• 1:47:17
  Speaker 2: And I took Detroit over nine and a half wins,
• 1:47:22
  Speaker 2: I believe it was, as one of my first picks
• 1:47:25
  Speaker 2: because I think they're going to be a really good
• 1:47:26
  Speaker 2: team this year. Everyone's drinking the Bears Kool-Aid, just like
• 1:47:31
  Speaker 2: everyone's drinking the Rams Kool-Aid here in the nfc west
• 1:47:35
  Speaker 2: i think the detroit lions are actually the best team
• 1:47:37
  Speaker 2: in that division they're going to get a full year
• 1:47:39
  Speaker 2: of aiden hutchinson and i think they're going to start
• 1:47:41
  Speaker 2: off with a bang at home versus the new orleans
• 1:47:44
  Speaker 2: saints who everyone thinks is going to be like a
• 1:47:46
  Speaker 2: lot better this year they might but it's going to
• 1:47:49
  Speaker 2: be a high scoring game detroit's going to put up
• 1:47:51
  Speaker 2: a bunch of points and new orleans might as well
• 1:47:55
  Speaker 2: but i still think they win by more than a
• 1:47:57
  Speaker 2: touchdown detroit minus six and a half versus the new
• 1:48:00
  Speaker 2: orleans saints at.
• 1:48:01
  Speaker 1: Home Travis Etienne helps New Orleans, you would think.
• 1:48:07
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 1:48:07
  Speaker 1: Tyler Shuck, still the quarterback.
• 1:48:09
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 1:48:11
  Speaker 1: They got a new left guard this season. They added
• 1:48:13
  Speaker 1: only one linebacker to the starter.
• 1:48:15
  Speaker 2: Not much has changed from that team.
• 1:48:17
  Speaker 1: Not much has changed from the Saints, They're kind of
• 1:48:19
  Speaker 1: a darling for some people.
• 1:48:20
  Speaker 2: For whatever reason. I like ETN. I really like them.
• 1:48:26
  Speaker 2: But I didn't think that running back was their big
• 1:48:28
  Speaker 2: issue last year.
• 1:48:29
  Speaker 1: Alright, here's the deal. 49451, that's the Tacoma Dodge text line.
• 1:48:34
  Speaker 1: You text either FACT or FICTION to 49451. And then
• 1:48:39
  Speaker 1: you'll get a little bounce back. I'm going to just
• 1:48:42
  Speaker 1: test it right now. Anders, what am I going to
• 1:48:43
  Speaker 1: say with yours? It's up to you. I like the pick.
• 1:48:47
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 1:48:48
  Speaker 1: So I'm going to text fact right now.
• 1:48:51
  Speaker 3: Boom.
• 1:48:51
  Speaker 1: And I should get a bounce back.
• 1:48:54
  Speaker 9: Waiting.
• 1:48:56
  Speaker 1: There it is. We received your text of fact for
• 1:48:59
  Speaker 1: the Tuesday Furness Factor Fiction Winner. Your next chance to
• 1:49:02
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• 1:49:04
  Speaker 1: the furious felts here.
• 1:49:06
  Speaker 2: Or FIFA felts.
• 1:49:07
  Speaker 1: Or FIFA felts. Or anything. Factual felts. But I'm going fact,
• 1:49:12
  Speaker 1: my friend.
• 1:49:12
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 1:49:13
  Speaker 1: I like it. I'm going fact Detroit. I like it.
• 1:49:15
  Speaker 1: Detroit minus six and a half.
• 1:49:17
  Speaker 2: They're just going to score a ton of points.
• 1:49:19
  Speaker 1: They need to win. Just if you're wondering how it's played,
• 1:49:21
  Speaker 1: that means if Detroit wins by seven or more points
• 1:49:24
  Speaker 1: and you text fact, you win. You are entered to
• 1:49:27
  Speaker 1: win $ 1, 000. If New Orleans wins or loses.
• 1:49:33
  Speaker 1: By less than seven points, and you texted Fiction, then
• 1:49:37
  Speaker 1: you'll be entered to win. It's very simple, very easy.
• 1:49:39
  Speaker 1: Text Factor Fiction to 49451 right now. Anders' first pick
• 1:49:43
  Speaker 1: of the year. And I'm just going to go back
• 1:49:45
  Speaker 1: to last season real quick. I think I can. I
• 1:49:49
  Speaker 1: thought I could. No, we refreshed everything. I do believe
• 1:49:54
  Speaker 1: you were near the top of percentage last year.
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  Speaker 2: I think I was second last year. Second to the
• 1:49:58
  Speaker 2: top for the individual percentage.
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  Speaker 1: Nice job.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you.
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  Speaker 3: Yes.
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  Speaker 8: Thank you.
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  Speaker 6: Yes.
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  Speaker 1: Hopefully that continues. I'm not going to make a Jessamyn
• 1:50:05
  Speaker 1: comment because she was listening earlier when I did.
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  Speaker 5: Oh, lovely. Yeah.
• 1:50:11
  Speaker 1: Let's just say Anders did quite well on this show,
• 1:50:13
  Speaker 1: for our show. He helped our show quite a bit.
• 1:50:15
  Speaker 3: Great.
• 1:50:15
  Speaker 1: That's all you need to say. Not everybody did.
• 1:50:18
  Speaker 2: How did Ian Furness do?
• 1:50:20
  Speaker 1: Really well. Yeah, really well.
• 1:50:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: Great.
• 1:50:23
  Speaker 3: Not really. Yeah.
• 1:50:25
  Speaker 1: You kind of carried us. All right, one more time.
• 1:50:27
  Speaker 1: Here it is.
• 1:50:28
  Speaker 2: Detroit minus six and a half versus the New Orleans
• 1:50:31
  Speaker 2: Saints at home.
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  Speaker 1: If you agree, text FACT to 49451. If you disagree,
• 1:50:36
  Speaker 1: you'll text FICTION to 49451. You've got about, what, 10, 11,
• 1:50:40
  Speaker 1: nine more minutes or so?
• 1:50:41
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 1:50:42
  Speaker 1: Nine more minutes to text in, but just do it
• 1:50:43
  Speaker 1: right now. Text FACT or FICTION, 49451. Softie's next.
• 1:50:57
  Speaker 14: Ian, Jess, Anders, Jackson, Factual Feltz here, checking in by
• 1:50:59
  Speaker 14: special request, and here to announce my starting fantasy football lineup.
• 1:51:02
  Speaker 4: Pele, Messi, Ronaldo, Dempsey, Mbappe, and sweet Pat Swayze. I
• 1:51:05
  Speaker 4: know what you're thinking.
• 1:51:06
  Speaker 5: Furious.
• 1:51:06
  Speaker 4: None of these people are playing in the NFL, but
• 1:51:07
  Speaker 4: it's going to be a little hard to bring that up.
• 1:51:09
  Speaker 9: We know.
• 1:51:09
  Speaker 14: Felty shoving his starting lineup right up your supplemental slot
• 1:51:12
  Speaker 14: angers get the breaking news for i have seen the
• 1:51:14
  Speaker 14: future and i have just become factual felts aka the
• 1:51:16
  Speaker 14: fact of fishing champ 2026 so cut the check 10k
• 1:51:19
  Speaker 14: no taxes or else i'm spending on the only two
• 1:51:22
  Speaker 14: things that felty knows sex and sounders baby so now.
• 1:51:25
  Speaker 13: It's messy i love that i mean you think the
• 1:51:32
  Speaker 13: guy scripts that out.
• 1:51:34
  Speaker 1: Or is that all just off the top of his head?
• 1:51:35
  Speaker 2: That sounds like it's off the noggin.
• 1:51:36
  Speaker 13: I think I want to meet that guy. I'm telling you,
• 1:51:39
  Speaker 13: we've got to have him and the Softie guy in studio.
• 1:51:41
  Speaker 13: Bring him on in, man. I was telling Anderson in
• 1:51:44
  Speaker 13: the big staff meeting we had that you were on teams.
• 1:51:46
  Speaker 13: You weren't here for that. You were on the teams call,
• 1:51:48
  Speaker 13: I saw.
• 1:51:48
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 1:51:49
  Speaker 1: Jackson's sitting next to me, and I keep looking over
• 1:51:52
  Speaker 1: at him, and in my mind was that. That's so funny.
• 1:51:55
  Speaker 1: All I could hear is the Jackson imitator talking the
• 1:51:57
  Speaker 1: whole time.
• 1:51:57
  Speaker 13: I mean, just Patrick Reed's face. That guy's voice, there's
• 1:52:02
  Speaker 13: no need for Jackson. Just get rid of him.
• 1:52:04
  Speaker 1: He's done. Like Thanos.
• 1:52:08
  Speaker 13: So you're saying AI Jackson? 100%. We've already got his voice.
• 1:52:13
  Speaker 13: We already have the guy's face. We don't need him anymore.
• 1:52:15
  Speaker 3: Oh, God. AI Jackson.
• 1:52:16
  Speaker 1: That's hilarious.
• 1:52:17
  Speaker 6: A.I.
• 1:52:17
  Speaker 1: Jackson would be something special, wouldn't it? I told you we.
• 1:52:21
  Speaker 13: Need to have a bracket of all the top eight
• 1:52:23
  Speaker 13: impressions that we can do over the offseason when the
• 1:52:26
  Speaker 13: M's are 58 games out of first place next July.
• 1:52:28
  Speaker 1: Factual felts this time.
• 1:52:30
  Speaker 2: Factual felts.
• 1:52:31
  Speaker 1: Not furious felts.
• 1:52:32
  Speaker 2: We're still waiting. We have FIFA felts, furious felts, factual felts.
• 1:52:36
  Speaker 3: Yep.
• 1:52:37
  Speaker 2: I still want fantasy felts.
• 1:52:38
  Speaker 1: That was kind of fantasy felts.
• 1:52:40
  Speaker 2: Kind of.
• 1:52:40
  Speaker 3: But it was.
• 1:52:41
  Speaker 1: Actually, you know what? Factual felts because... Here's what I like.
• 1:52:44
  Speaker 1: Farting felts. Farting felts would be great. Because he tied
• 1:52:47
  Speaker 1: in fact or fiction.
• 1:52:48
  Speaker 5: Yes.
• 1:52:49
  Speaker 1: I mean, why not just a theme, man, for every
• 1:52:52
  Speaker 1: time of the year?
• 1:52:52
  Speaker 3: That's it.
• 1:52:53
  Speaker 1: Freaky felts during Halloween?
• 1:52:55
  Speaker 3: Whatever.
• 1:52:56
  Speaker 1: Has he heard it yet?
• 1:52:58
  Speaker 3: No, he has not.
• 1:52:58
  Speaker 13: F'd up Feltz during spring break. Play this for Feltz.
• 1:53:01
  Speaker 13: You've got to play this for him. Nah, play it
• 1:53:03
  Speaker 13: for him off the air.
• 1:53:03
  Speaker 2: He just came in the studio.
• 1:53:04
  Speaker 1: All right, all right. Play it for him later. He
• 1:53:06
  Speaker 1: looks like he's stressed out. He always looks like that. No,
• 1:53:09
  Speaker 1: he's good?
• 1:53:10
  Speaker 6: Okay.
• 1:53:10
  Speaker 1: That's his... By the way.
• 1:53:16
  Speaker 4: Messi, Ronaldo, Dempsey, Mbappe, and sweet Pat Swayze. I know
• 1:53:19
  Speaker 4: what you're thinking.
• 1:53:20
  Speaker 5: Furious.
• 1:53:20
  Speaker 4: None of these people are playing in the NFL, but
• 1:53:21
  Speaker 4: it's going to be a little hard to bring that up.
• 1:53:23
  Speaker 14: When old Felty is shoving his starting lineup right up
• 1:53:25
  Speaker 14: your supplemental slot.
• 1:53:26
  Speaker 4: Anders, get the breaking news, Sanders, for I have seen.
• 1:53:28
  Speaker 14: The future, and I have just become Factual Feltz, a.k.a.
• 1:53:30
  Speaker 4: The Fact of Fishing Champ. 2026, so cut the check.
• 1:53:33
  Speaker 14: 10K, no taxes or else, and I'm spending it on
• 1:53:35
  Speaker 14: the only two things that Felty knows.
• 1:53:37
  Speaker 4: Sex and Sounders, baby. Sounders at 730.
• 1:53:39
  Speaker 6: Wow.
• 1:53:40
  Speaker 1: Now, supplemental slot. Yeah, supplemental slot and factual. Okay, so
• 1:53:44
  Speaker 1: how was he in fact or fiction last year? Terrible.
• 1:53:47
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 1:53:47
  Speaker 1: I thought you were terrible.
• 1:53:48
  Speaker 3: Yeah, right. Was he as bad as Jess?
• 1:53:51
  Speaker 1: Really bad. I think I was the second worst on
• 1:53:53
  Speaker 1: the station. Was he as bad as Jess?
• 1:53:55
  Speaker 3: No.
• 1:53:55
  Speaker 5: No.
• 1:53:56
  Speaker 1: I was second worst. Not by much.
• 1:53:58
  Speaker 13: Jess was so bad that I had a lobotomy so
• 1:54:02
  Speaker 13: I could forget how bad she was.
• 1:54:04
  Speaker 1: That's how bad she was. All right, that's good stuff.
• 1:54:07
  Speaker 1: Good stuff. Moving on.
• 1:54:09
  Speaker 4: Moving on.
• 1:54:10
  Speaker 1: What's next? No Aaron Donald in L.A. Yeah, he's an
• 1:54:13
  Speaker 1: old man. He can't hack it. No Ty Okada for Seattle.
• 1:54:16
  Speaker 1: Already starting. Jackson and I talked about that. You know,
• 1:54:18
  Speaker 1: Fane's freaking out.
• 1:54:19
  Speaker 3: Oh, my God, Aaron Donald.
• 1:54:21
  Speaker 1: He's 35 years old. He won't last the season, man.
• 1:54:25
  Speaker 1: They're going to have to manage him. Couldn't make the
• 1:54:27
  Speaker 1: trip to Australia. There's not enough to pens for him
• 1:54:29
  Speaker 1: to wear for a flight that long. Because he's, what, 35?
• 1:54:32
  Speaker 1: That's right.
• 1:54:32
  Speaker 13: The old man can't hack it. In NFL terms, he
• 1:54:34
  Speaker 13: is a senior citizen. How much better did you feel
• 1:54:37
  Speaker 13: at 35 than you do at 55? A thousand times better.
• 1:54:40
  Speaker 13: A hundred times better. But I could not have played
• 1:54:42
  Speaker 13: in the NFL either at the age of 35.
• 1:54:43
  Speaker 1: No, you could not. Or the age of 25. No,
• 1:54:45
  Speaker 1: you could not. Or the age of 45. I always
• 1:54:48
  Speaker 1: like this. We get to this point where this is Saturday.
• 1:54:51
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it is.
• 1:54:52
  Speaker 1: It's not Friday. It's the day before. It's not the
• 1:54:54
  Speaker 1: day before the day before. No, that was yesterday. It's
• 1:54:56
  Speaker 1: the day before. Today is the day before. Do you
• 1:54:59
  Speaker 1: have any nerves? No. It's kind of weird, right? Does
• 1:55:01
  Speaker 1: it feel like the Apple Cup in a sense?
• 1:55:03
  Speaker 3: No.
• 1:55:03
  Speaker 1: It's like, wow, it's tomorrow?
• 1:55:05
  Speaker 13: No, the Apple Cup to me, you guys just made
• 1:55:07
  Speaker 13: the Apple Cup stupid. So that whole week was just dumb.
• 1:55:10
  Speaker 1: So it was Wednesday game?
• 1:55:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:55:12
  Speaker 1: You don't feel it yet? I almost forget that it's
• 1:55:14
  Speaker 1: happening tomorrow.
• 1:55:15
  Speaker 3: Right?
• 1:55:16
  Speaker 13: We're going to Jimmy's tomorrow. I'm going to go to
• 1:55:18
  Speaker 13: the press conference with the Coastless tomorrow at 11.
• 1:55:20
  Speaker 1: Introduce yourself. You should pop over, man. I'm on the air. No,
• 1:55:23
  Speaker 1: you're not. Oh, I'm not? Okay.
• 1:55:25
  Speaker 4: 11 o'clock.
• 1:55:25
  Speaker 1: All RSVP. I'll meet you at Jimmy's at 1030. We'll
• 1:55:27
  Speaker 1: head over. We'll have a drink and we'll head over.
• 1:55:29
  Speaker 13: Would it be inappropriate for Ian and I to show
• 1:55:32
  Speaker 13: up smelling of booze?
• 1:55:33
  Speaker 1: No, I'm sure the Coastless would be fine with that. Hey, Vinod,
• 1:55:36
  Speaker 1: how are you?
• 1:55:37
  Speaker 3: Hi.
• 1:55:38
  Speaker 1: I'm Dave Softy Muller. I'm Mike Benton. Oh, he'll be there.
• 1:55:43
  Speaker 1: He'll be there. Oh, he'll definitely be there. He'll be there.
• 1:55:45
  Speaker 1: Are you kidding me? Yeah, meet me at Jimmy's at
• 1:55:47
  Speaker 1: like 10 o'clock. I'm going to be there. I'll get
• 1:55:49
  Speaker 1: some breakfast. I'll have a Bloody Mary. And we'll go
• 1:55:51
  Speaker 1: meet the Coastless. Hey, how are we doing? Say hello.
• 1:55:53
  Speaker 1: To Nehru and Bono. To Seahawk Security. Be like, get away.
• 1:55:57
  Speaker 1: Stay away. Well, you got to RSVP. That's how big
• 1:55:59
  Speaker 1: this thing is. I did see that already. Did you RSVP?
• 1:56:01
  Speaker 1: I haven't yet.
• 1:56:02
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 1:56:02
  Speaker 1: You have to pee or something, by the way? No,
• 1:56:04
  Speaker 1: I'm just shaking your leg over there. I'm trying to
• 1:56:05
  Speaker 1: keep my leg loose. What's going on? I've got some
• 1:56:08
  Speaker 1: stuff going on. A lot's going on. That happened yesterday
• 1:56:10
  Speaker 1: with us on the air.
• 1:56:11
  Speaker 13: We're talking to a guy who was on the air
• 1:56:13
  Speaker 13: with us. Kruger was on the air. And I look
• 1:56:15
  Speaker 13: over at Dick at like 5'17. And he's just like,
• 1:56:20
  Speaker 13: what is wrong with you?
• 1:56:21
  Speaker 1: Well, the Women's FIBA World Cup was on. Oh, is
• 1:56:23
  Speaker 1: that what it was? He was excited for that? I
• 1:56:25
  Speaker 1: think Brazil was playing Australia. But he had to take
• 1:56:28
  Speaker 1: a leak. I was like, dude, just go, man.
• 1:56:30
  Speaker 8: God.
• 1:56:31
  Speaker 1: Guy was about to just explode. You know what? Get
• 1:56:33
  Speaker 1: yourself a Whizinator.
• 1:56:34
  Speaker 13: Get yourself an Ontario Smith Whizinator.
• 1:56:37
  Speaker 1: Ontario Smith Whizinator. You might not remember that, by the way, Anders.
• 1:56:40
  Speaker 1: By the way, I saw what you did yesterday. Me
• 1:56:44
  Speaker 1: or him? No, I saw what you did yesterday. What
• 1:56:45
  Speaker 1: did I do? On the Factor Fiction. Oh, Oregon? No,
• 1:56:48
  Speaker 1: they're going to kill him. Nobody called you on this.
• 1:56:51
  Speaker 1: Nobody called you on this.
• 1:56:52
  Speaker 13: But it's not, I'm not, I don't do the emotional
• 1:56:54
  Speaker 13: hedge stuff for Factor Fiction. What my problem was, and
• 1:56:57
  Speaker 13: I was an idiot over the weekend, I should have
• 1:57:00
  Speaker 13: done it in the Apple Cup because I do it
• 1:57:02
  Speaker 13: every single year.
• 1:57:03
  Speaker 1: And this is the one year. You didn't bet on Washington.
• 1:57:05
  Speaker 1: I said, you know what? I'm going to take the dogs.
• 1:57:07
  Speaker 1: They're going to cover.
• 1:57:07
  Speaker 13: And I got screwed. This is why I do the
• 1:57:10
  Speaker 13: emotional hedge. Because with the emotional hedge, you're guaranteed to
• 1:57:13
  Speaker 13: win something. That's why I brought up this. Because if Oregon...
• 1:57:18
  Speaker 13: doesn't cover against a team that hasn't won in two years.
• 1:57:21
  Speaker 7: Right.
• 1:57:21
  Speaker 1: Oh, they're terrible. They got beat by Tulsa. Eric Morris
• 1:57:23
  Speaker 1: goes there, thinks he's going to bring North Texas there.
• 1:57:25
  Speaker 1: That didn't happen. So if they say they win by
• 1:57:28
  Speaker 1: like 10 points, that's a bad look for Oregon. And
• 1:57:32
  Speaker 1: you're going to be very happy, but at the same time,
• 1:57:34
  Speaker 1: you'll take an L in factor fiction. I know what
• 1:57:36
  Speaker 1: you're doing. You can do whatever you want.
• 1:57:37
  Speaker 13: If they lose, I will sacrifice a factor fiction pick.
• 1:57:40
  Speaker 13: I don't think they're going to lose, but if they
• 1:57:43
  Speaker 13: do another... fourth quarter thing like they did versus Boise. Dude,
• 1:57:46
  Speaker 13: they just dropped four spots by beating Boise State.
• 1:57:49
  Speaker 1: I noticed that. That is unbelievable.
• 1:57:51
  Speaker 13: Michigan dropped 12 spots after beating Western Michigan.
• 1:57:55
  Speaker 2: Did they beat Western Michigan, though?
• 1:57:57
  Speaker 1: Well, technically they did. Well, Western Michigan.
• 1:57:59
  Speaker 13: As of right now, they're complaining about it. I think
• 1:58:03
  Speaker 13: what happened with that, and I was talking to Dick
• 1:58:04
  Speaker 13: about this off here do we have time for this
• 1:58:06
  Speaker 13: time yeah i was talking to dick about it i
• 1:58:08
  Speaker 13: think when mike perera opened up his mouth yesterday yeah
• 1:58:11
  Speaker 13: and said they were supposed to go by the tv
• 1:58:13
  Speaker 13: clock on nbc yes i think the max said oh
• 1:58:16
  Speaker 13: really yeah let's look into that well in a couple
• 1:58:19
  Speaker 13: and now they're angry the commissioner came out like immediately
• 1:58:22
  Speaker 13: saturday night and said we're good we're Understood, blah, blah, blah.
• 1:58:26
  Speaker 13: But then three days later, it's like, whoa, hang on
• 1:58:29
  Speaker 13: a second now.
• 1:58:30
  Speaker 1: Hang on. There might be something to that.
• 1:58:32
  Speaker 3: Exactly.
• 1:58:33
  Speaker 1: I don't know, man. College football is wild.
• 1:58:35
  Speaker 13: You had three teams that won games over the weekend
• 1:58:39
  Speaker 13: and dropped multiple spots in the standings.
• 1:58:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, because the only team that was ranked that lost
• 1:58:43
  Speaker 1: was Louisville.
• 1:58:44
  Speaker 2: And you know what?
• 1:58:44
  Speaker 1: They didn't change positions.
• 1:58:46
  Speaker 9: No.
• 1:58:46
  Speaker 1: They stayed exactly the same.
• 1:58:48
  Speaker 3: They got the.
• 1:58:48
  Speaker 1: Old Husky commit, Lincoln Keinholz, as their quarterback. When did
• 1:58:52
  Speaker 1: he commit?
• 1:58:53
  Speaker 13: He's on his third school. He came with Kalen, I think,
• 1:58:55
  Speaker 13: in 2023. You know what surprised me? Alabama's freshmen play great.
• 1:59:00
  Speaker 13: I'm like, is Austin Mack still there?
• 1:59:02
  Speaker 3: He is.
• 1:59:02
  Speaker 1: He's a backup.
• 1:59:02
  Speaker 3: He's a backup. Exactly.
• 1:59:04
  Speaker 1: You know what? Grass isn't always green. Well, for there
• 1:59:06
  Speaker 1: it is. It's also a lot more expensive, by the way, too.
• 1:59:08
  Speaker 1: What are you doing today? What's today?
• 1:59:10
  Speaker 3: Tuesday?
• 1:59:10
  Speaker 1: Who's got a pick? Husky Honks.
• 1:59:12
  Speaker 3: Dick.
• 1:59:12
  Speaker 13: It's Dick Day. He'll make the pick. We're going to
• 1:59:14
  Speaker 13: hear from Michael Switzer, UW offensive line coach. We'll do
• 1:59:17
  Speaker 13: Husky Honks at 4. Ryan Schmetzer will join us on
• 1:59:20
  Speaker 13: the radio show. Larry Stone will join us on the
• 1:59:23
  Speaker 13: radio show. And Mike Benson is across the street at
• 1:59:26
  Speaker 13: T-Mobile Park. So you never know what's happening down there.
• 1:59:28
  Speaker 13: They'll probably ask him to leave.
• 1:59:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think so. He's professional, unlike us.
• 1:59:32
  Speaker 8: That's true.
• 1:59:32
  Speaker 1: See you, man. I'll see you tomorrow. For the mild-mannered
• 1:59:35
  Speaker 1: and marginally objectionable Ian Furness, this is Paddle Day saying
• 1:59:39
  Speaker 1: so long, everyone.