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- 0:00Josh: Two years ago, Tim Cook got on stage at Apple's Worldwide Developer Conference
- 0:04Josh: and announced what I believe to be the most amazing set of features in the history
- 0:08Josh: of Apple, Apple Intelligence.
- 0:10Josh: It turned out to be the most disappointing WWDC of all time.
- 0:13Josh: It was a complete and total failure, so much so that they are still currently
- 0:18Josh: dealing with lawsuits around false advertising for how big of a flop Apple Intelligence was.
- 0:23Josh: They promised us the world, they delivered absolutely nothing.
- 0:26Josh: In fact, the iPhone that they built for that year in particular for Apple intelligence
- 0:30Josh: is not supported by Apple intelligence.
- 0:33Josh: This sounds like a disaster, but just yesterday, Apple had an opportunity to
- 0:37Josh: fix this wrong, to write the things that they were not able to do the first time.
- 0:41Josh: And I got to say, I'm very impressed. I think this year's WWDC left a significantly
- 0:46Josh: different taste in my mouth than the last one, because this year was all about AI.
- 0:50Josh: And for the first time ever, we have features that are actually going to work.
- 0:54Ejaaz: I remember filming last year's WWDC episode and us just being thoroughly disappointed
- 1:01Ejaaz: with just the lack of AI stuff. Like they just didn't pay it any kind of attention
- 1:06Ejaaz: and they delayed it yet another year.
- 1:08Ejaaz: Up until yesterday, actually, Siri couldn't even tell you which month we were
- 1:12Ejaaz: in. And that was ironically one of the demos that they showed yesterday.
- 1:16Ejaaz: Anyway, a slew of new AI updates.
- 1:19Ejaaz: The two flagship headline updates from Apple is Siri is now Siri AI.
- 1:24Ejaaz: Powered kind of by Google's Gemini model and also by Apple's own foundational
- 1:29Ejaaz: model, which brings me to the second major headline announcement.
- 1:32Ejaaz: We've got four to five brand new Apple foundational models, which can run both
- 1:36Ejaaz: locally on your device as well as through their own private compute server.
- 1:39Ejaaz: And we're going to get into a lot of the details about how this actually works.
- 1:42Ejaaz: But my main takeaway from yesterday's WWDC is that Apple is finally taking AI
- 1:49Ejaaz: seriously. And while some of the feature updates that we're going to go through
- 1:52Ejaaz: may seem like they're kind of basic.
- 1:55Ejaaz: Collectively, they actually make your life way, way better. And you listening
- 1:58Ejaaz: to this, if you have any kind of an Apple device, an iPad, an iPhone,
- 2:02Ejaaz: a MacBook Pro, whatever it might be, you can use a net new feature,
- 2:06Ejaaz: once these features actually roll out by the end of the year,
- 2:09Ejaaz: which will change the way that
- 2:11Ejaaz: you work. And it's done over or across 3.5 billion active Apple devices.
- 2:16Josh: So yesterday, they kind of oriented this presentation around three key pillars.
- 2:20Josh: The first was stability. The second was kind of how you can use it with your
- 2:23Josh: children and security and privacy.
- 2:25Josh: The third was AI. We all want to talk about AI. We want to hear about AI.
- 2:28Josh: Let's get into the AI first.
- 2:29Josh: It's now Siri AI, like you mentioned. And what we're seeing on screen is unique
- 2:33Josh: and novel. It's demo that's in real time that actually works.
- 2:37Josh: And this was something that I found uniquely interesting for this presentation
- 2:41Josh: in general. Generally, when Apple has these things, they have these very pre-produced
- 2:46Josh: demos that look very good, that operate very well. When we saw them initially
- 2:49Josh: released two years ago, they looked incredible.
- 2:51Josh: The difference now is you'll notice that there's no cuts happening in this demo.
- 2:55Josh: They're not doing it for speed. They're not doing it for time.
- 2:57Josh: They're doing this for proof that it actually works.
- 3:00Josh: So what we're seeing on screen is someone from the Apple team who is actually
- 3:03Josh: asking it to search his text messages and uncover a text message about a specific
- 3:07Josh: song and then go off and play that song.
- 3:09Josh: And for the first time ever, Siri has the context. So what we're seeing now
- 3:13Josh: is he's showing it a screen from Instagram and Siri can see the content of your screen.
- 3:19Josh: It could understand where that location is and then it could route you there on your maps.
- 3:23Josh: And this is something unique and novel only to Apple where it has the full permissions of your phone.
- 3:28Josh: It could see what's on your device. It can actually engage with your device.
- 3:31Josh: And it does everything that I think we imagined and always hoped it would,
- 3:35Josh: which is just have full context of your entire life and be able to turn that
- 3:39Josh: into some useful information and useful actions.
- 3:41Josh: So for me, this was exciting because this was kind of definitive proof that it actually worked.
- 3:46Josh: And what we'll notice as we go through the demos from yesterday is that this
- 3:50Josh: is actually available for developers right now. So people have been testing it.
- 3:55Josh: They have shown that it worked. And there's a lot of cool features that they actually released.
- 3:58Ejaaz: I think the concept that we're describing here is basically like grounded context.
- 4:04Ejaaz: We've spoken about personal AI agents a lot on this show. And the reason why
- 4:07Ejaaz: we've done that is a lot of people think that the best AI features,
- 4:11Ejaaz: the best AI models is only achievable if the model is actually larger,
- 4:15Ejaaz: the bigger it gets, the more compute that it has.
- 4:18Ejaaz: Whereas in reality, you can have a smaller model that is trained on your own
- 4:22Ejaaz: personal data that you don't necessarily want to share with ChatGPT or Claude.
- 4:26Ejaaz: And it could do this so in such a private way that you can create a much more
- 4:31Ejaaz: personalized AI experience.
- 4:32Ejaaz: And so some examples that we're about to run through that is summarized by Marques
- 4:36Ejaaz: in this tweet is basically, you know, you can message Siri and say,
- 4:39Ejaaz: hey, do you remember that restaurant that my friend was talking about about a month and a half ago?
- 4:45Ejaaz: I think it was somewhere in my neighborhood and it pulls it up.
- 4:48Ejaaz: Or you could say, hey, could you look at my recent location history and let
- 4:52Ejaaz: me know what that place was there, saw that beautiful sunset,
- 4:56Ejaaz: it and it'll be able to tell you.
- 4:57Ejaaz: And it's these little nuances that you can't really achieve in ChatGPT or any
- 5:01Ejaaz: kind of LLM chatbot simply because it's not grounded in any particular context.
- 5:05Ejaaz: Now, that all sounds great, but let's walk through some examples specifically. So you mentioned that.
- 5:12Ejaaz: Siri Air can react to things that are on the screen. This is a classic case
- 5:16Ejaaz: where I'm updating my iOS, right?
- 5:18Ejaaz: And I don't want to stare at the iOS screen to see when it's finished updating.
- 5:22Ejaaz: So I say, hey, Siri, can you set a timer for when this finishes?
- 5:25Ejaaz: And it knows what you're talking about.
- 5:27Ejaaz: It sees the amount of time remaining and it sets that specific timer,
- 5:30Ejaaz: which I thought was pretty cool. And then we've got another example here where
- 5:33Ejaaz: it's like, when was my flight last month? And it pulls up your flight manifestor,
- 5:37Ejaaz: goes through your email app or your calendar app or whatever that might be.
- 5:40Ejaaz: And it says, I think that's your flight to Budapest. It was a British Airways
- 5:43Ejaaz: flight. You left at this time and you arrived at this other time.
- 5:47Ejaaz: And then there's this other one, which I kind of cracked up at.
- 5:51Ejaaz: Where you get a text from someone and it says, you know, have you heard of this plant called Calathea?
- 5:57Ejaaz: And it's basically like a tropical house plant. And Siri summarizes it,
- 6:01Ejaaz: basically saying the exact same thing that's in the text.
- 6:04Ejaaz: Now, the point I'm making here is that it's not exactly perfect.
- 6:07Ejaaz: There's some kinks that we need to work out, but I can already see myself using
- 6:12Ejaaz: this and it being hugely valuable, even though it's in this V1 format.
- 6:16Josh: It's funny, as I was watching this announcement yesterday, I'm sitting there
- 6:18Josh: and I'm like holding these two months in parallel. One is that like,
- 6:22Josh: oh my God, this is unbelievable. I can't believe Siri works.
- 6:25Josh: The other is, okay, so what you're telling me is all this is just to deliver
- 6:28Josh: on the promises that you should have made years ago.
- 6:31Josh: So it's like, it is this amazing novel experience, but it's like,
- 6:35Josh: okay, yeah, they've been working on this for a very long time, we haven't got it.
- 6:37Josh: So while we are enthusiastic, it's like finally, thankfully, this actually works.
- 6:42Josh: And I think it's important to really understand how big of a deal this is. I think
- 6:47Josh: When a lot of people use AI, the thing that they are missing the most is the context.
- 6:53Josh: And we have memory when it comes to Anthropic and OpenAI, and you have like
- 6:57Josh: a loose memory based on what you've spoken about, but it doesn't have full access to everything.
- 7:01Josh: A lot of people, their whole lives live on their devices.
- 7:04Josh: It lives on the data on their phone, on their laptop.
- 7:06Josh: Apple is the iCloud account that runs all of that. And having the full contextual
- 7:10Josh: awareness to go off and then make actions on your behalf is a huge thing.
- 7:14Josh: And at the core of this is Siri AI. is Siri that actually works.
- 7:18Josh: I mean, for the last, what, five, six years, I've had Siri disabled.
- 7:22Josh: It's been worse than useless. In fact, it just gets in the way whenever it hears
- 7:25Josh: its name and it gets summoned.
- 7:27Josh: Finally, there's an opportunity to turn it back on and start using it.
- 7:30Josh: And I think that's a really big deal for, because for those people who don't
- 7:33Josh: want to go and subscribe to a frontier model, they don't want to pay $20, $100, $200 a month.
- 7:39Josh: They are just interested in personalized AI. This is a huge opportunity, a huge market for Apple.
- 7:45Josh: In addition to the developers, I mean, this is a developer conference.
- 7:49Josh: Apple developers now have access to these really nice quantized local models
- 7:52Josh: that run on your phone that now have the ability to do edge inference on any
- 7:56Josh: application that they want.
- 7:57Josh: So if I'm an app developer, I'm going to the app store right now because I'm
- 8:01Josh: getting AI inference tokens for free that I could deliver near instantly because
- 8:05Josh: it's run locally to my customers on my Apple devices.
- 8:08Josh: And that's a huge unlock for anybody who's building for the platform anyone
- 8:11Josh: who's using the platform and while it did take them a long time it's here and
- 8:15Josh: we always talk about apple has an install base of how many tens of billions
- 8:18Josh: of devices that now have edge inference ability
- 8:21Josh: on device and that's such a huge unlock like i
- 8:24Josh: I think this is very much version one now. This is the starting point of this
- 8:28Josh: new paradigm of AI first hardware devices.
- 8:31Ejaaz: I think there's also some important context to provide. Like if you're an investor
- 8:35Ejaaz: and you've been watching Apple over the last couple of years,
- 8:37Ejaaz: you just have one clear statement to say about them, which is they just messed up.
- 8:43Ejaaz: They completely left the AI race to all the other players.
- 8:47Ejaaz: They didn't train their own foundational model and they didn't burn as much
- 8:50Ejaaz: capital, but also they got left behind in this entire race.
- 8:53Ejaaz: And then you might be asking, well, how have they been able to produce these
- 8:56Ejaaz: AI features that are seemingly quite good when you've got Google,
- 9:00Ejaaz: Microsoft, and Amazon spending upwards of $260 billion this year alone on AI CapEx?
- 9:06Ejaaz: Well, there's two answers to this. One of them you just kind of lightly touched
- 9:09Ejaaz: on, which is Apple probably has the largest moat of consumer data of any singular company, right?
- 9:17Ejaaz: They have 3.5 billion devices every day collecting all these kinds of personal
- 9:22Ejaaz: grounded contacts, which they can use to train a model.
- 9:25Ejaaz: When you look at Chinese open source models, a big question that is being asked
- 9:28Ejaaz: right now is, how have they been able to catch up with the American Western
- 9:33Ejaaz: models that are spending so much money and the Chinese models aren't doing that?
- 9:36Ejaaz: The one answer is data. Duwakesh had a really good paper that he released yesterday
- 9:40Ejaaz: where he explains that it's primarily data. If you can get access to really
- 9:43Ejaaz: personal data, you can train a pretty good model. So that's one way Apple's been able to do it.
- 9:48Ejaaz: But the other thing is the elephant in the room, they signed a massive partnership
- 9:52Ejaaz: with Google to get access to their Gemini model specifically.
- 9:56Ejaaz: Now, the way that people frame this partnership in their head is,
- 9:59Ejaaz: oh, they're just going to plug
- 10:00Ejaaz: Google's Gemini model into Apple's Siri and that's the brain behind it.
- 10:05Ejaaz: And that's partially true. They do use Google's 1.2 trillion parameter model, but it's also not true.
- 10:11Ejaaz: Apple has created a series or a slew of different models called Apple foundational
- 10:16Ejaaz: models that are versions of models that they've trained by themselves on their
- 10:20Ejaaz: own servers, on their own GPUs.
- 10:22Ejaaz: At home versus a kind of distilled effect from Gemini or Google's Gemini specifically.
- 10:28Ejaaz: There was actually an agreement which got leaked, I think like two weeks ago,
- 10:32Ejaaz: which showed that Apple gets access to Google's Gemini model weights,
- 10:36Ejaaz: which is just crazy for some kind of proprietary agreement where they pay them
- 10:39Ejaaz: a billion dollars a year.
- 10:40Ejaaz: So it's this mixed relationship, this mixed partnership, which has allowed them
- 10:45Ejaaz: to kind of achieve this particular type of model that we're seeing on screen today.
- 10:50Josh: Yeah, and it has some pretty cool technology, how it works. Instead of forcing
- 10:53Josh: the entire model into DRAM, which we've talked about many times on the show,
- 10:56Josh: if you haven't, go find the episode.
- 10:58Josh: The model is actually stored in flash memory. And because the NAND and DRAM
- 11:01Josh: bandwidth is too slow to swap weights back and forth, they actually process
- 11:06Josh: it on like a per prompt basis. So it's just much faster.
- 11:08Josh: It's much more lightweight. It's this kind of novel architecture that they're using.
- 11:12Josh: And I imagine a lot of people are going to slowly start to mimic that.
- 11:15Josh: And it's also important to note that these models use a novel architecture.
- 11:19Josh: They're using DRAM and SRAM to pass things off to each other in ways that are
- 11:23Josh: faster and efficient than you traditionally could have.
- 11:25Josh: And I think that's why the models aren't going to be running on the iPhone 16
- 11:29Josh: Pro, even though they claim that it was built for Apple intelligence,
- 11:32Josh: because it really is pushing the limits of the hardware that they have on device.
- 11:36Josh: Now, what are the types of things that you can do with that on device intelligence? They're
- 11:40Josh: pretty freaking awesome. One of my favorite demos from the whole event that
- 11:44Josh: they snuck in with one sentence, it was like three seconds of the whole event,
- 11:47Josh: was the ability to split the bill with Siri.
- 11:49Josh: So you could actually take a photo of a bill. Let's say you're at a restaurant
- 11:52Josh: and you had a receipt that gets dropped on the table.
- 11:55Josh: You take a photo, send it to the group chat. Everyone can be assigned what they bought.
- 11:59Josh: They could pay with Apple Pay. You're done. You're on your way.
- 12:01Josh: It is so clean. It is so cool.
- 12:03Josh: There's a second feature that I love, which actually surprised me because it
- 12:06Josh: relies on agents to go ahead and do this, is you can fix your password agentically.
- 12:12Josh: So inside of Apple, inside of iOS and macOS, there is a passwords app where
- 12:16Josh: it'll safely and securely store your passwords for all the accounts that you have.
- 12:20Josh: It'll also go out and see if those passwords have been leaked,
- 12:24Josh: if they're being reused, if there is any sort of security compromise that's
- 12:27Josh: happened to those passwords.
- 12:29Josh: And what this new agentic system will do is within the app, it will go out and
- 12:33Josh: reset the passwords for you.
- 12:35Josh: So if you have an insecure password, if you have a password that's been reused,
- 12:38Josh: it'll go off in the background, it'll go into the browser, it'll log in using
- 12:41Josh: your credentials, it'll change the password, and then it'll populate the new
- 12:44Josh: one into the app without you ever having to do that again. So the days of having
- 12:47Josh: to reset your password as you forgot it,
- 12:49Josh: Those are in the past. And I think these types of use cases seem silly.
- 12:53Josh: They seem small, but they increase the quality of life so much for the day-to-day user.
- 12:59Josh: And this is at the core of what they spent almost a third of the show talking
- 13:03Josh: about, which is just stability.
- 13:05Josh: Like people just want a stable operating system that works and all the features
- 13:09Josh: that are advertised worked. And that's what we have. So these two features in
- 13:11Josh: particular were very exciting for me.
- 13:13Ejaaz: There's something about giving an AI agent access to my passwords that just
- 13:19Ejaaz: doesn't sit well with me right now. But maybe I just need to like use the feature
- 13:22Ejaaz: and let it change my life.
- 13:24Josh: They've been refining this for how many years now that they couldn't figure
- 13:27Josh: it out? They've been workshopping this, man.
- 13:29Ejaaz: They had all the time. Their timelines are measured in centuries. That's so funny.
- 13:34Ejaaz: Kind of similar on like the idea of like how Apple approaches their kind of
- 13:38Ejaaz: like design when it comes to AI.
- 13:40Ejaaz: We had to like look at the system prompt itself. So with all of these AI models,
- 13:45Ejaaz: with all of these AI agents, including Siri. It's not too different from any of the other AI models.
- 13:49Ejaaz: It has a base system prompt, which the company, in this case,
- 13:52Ejaaz: Apple feeds it in order to kind of like give it its personality and give it
- 13:56Ejaaz: understanding of how it's supposed to act.
- 13:58Ejaaz: And I'm not going to go through this entire system prompt, but it's just interesting
- 14:02Ejaaz: to see that they use visual richness,
- 14:05Ejaaz: like quite a few times in this paragraph where they're basically saying,
- 14:09Ejaaz: Siri, like you aren't just a chatbot LLM, you visually understand the importance
- 14:14Ejaaz: of design in this person's life.
- 14:17Ejaaz: And you must make visually rich choices like you must see what they see.
- 14:21Ejaaz: You must think how they think and care for them in a particular way,
- 14:24Ejaaz: which honestly, I haven't seen in any other kind of system prompt when I look
- 14:27Ejaaz: at my Claude or ChatGPT now.
- 14:30Ejaaz: I want to spin back to something which kind of gets into the infrastructure
- 14:34Ejaaz: of how all of this works because I actually think Apple's made a breakthrough
- 14:38Ejaaz: in AI model architecture, which not a lot of other companies have.
- 14:42Ejaaz: And we've said on previous shows that Apple has the perfect architecture and
- 14:46Ejaaz: kind of device system to run AI models locally and privately,
- 14:50Ejaaz: and that gives them a significant advantage in the world or realm of AI agents specifically.
- 14:56Ejaaz: Now, I want to briefly go through their foundational models.
- 14:59Ejaaz: It's something called Apple Foundational Models, and there are about four or
- 15:02Ejaaz: five of them which they release. And there's a voice one, there is an LLM-based
- 15:07Ejaaz: specific thing, there's a transcription agent, and there's quite a few others.
- 15:10Ejaaz: You have it on our screen here. We've got AFM Cloud, AFM Cloud Image,
- 15:13Ejaaz: and there's a few different features that kind of collectively feed into their Siri AI system.
- 15:18Ejaaz: But what interested me the most was their 20 billion parameter model.
- 15:23Ejaaz: Now, before you get bored, I just want to explain why this is super important.
- 15:27Ejaaz: Typically, to run a 20 billion parameter model on your phone,
- 15:30Ejaaz: on any kind of Apple device, it would be nigh on impossible because the chips
- 15:35Ejaaz: are just not too bleeding edge and it results in a very slow architecture.
- 15:41Ejaaz: Now, what they did was something very smart. You mentioned two memory types
- 15:44Ejaaz: earlier on, Josh. You've got the NAND flash memory and you've got random access memory, RAM.
- 15:50Ejaaz: What they've done is they engineered both of these memories in such a way that
- 15:54Ejaaz: you can access a 20 billion parameter model at lightning speed for super cheap
- 15:59Ejaaz: costs. This is not something that any other device architecture has been able to achieve.
- 16:03Ejaaz: And the only reason why they were able to do it was because of Apple's supply
- 16:06Ejaaz: chain. They have one of the biggest and best silicon moats across the world.
- 16:11Ejaaz: And they were able to exercise that. And there's like a three tier routing system.
- 16:14Ejaaz: So any kind of simple prompts where it's like, hey, can you check my text messages?
- 16:17Ejaaz: Can you like tell me what my friend said last week?
- 16:20Ejaaz: That runs completely on device, privately encrypted. It never leaves it.
- 16:24Ejaaz: It doesn't even need an internet connection at that point.
- 16:26Ejaaz: And then any kind of medium-sized request gets routed to their private cloud
- 16:29Ejaaz: server where it's still encrypted, but it kind of like routes to another server
- 16:32Ejaaz: that's not on your phone.
- 16:33Ejaaz: And then for the heavier stuff, it gets sent to Google Cloud specifically,
- 16:36Ejaaz: run on NVIDIA GPUs, again, still encrypted. So privacy is at the core of Apple's
- 16:42Ejaaz: foundational architecture.
- 16:43Ejaaz: And that might sound like an unsexy thing to announce, but it's actually crucially
- 16:48Ejaaz: important if you're going to start sharing a lot of your personal information,
- 16:51Ejaaz: your financial information, your grocery list, your personal texts with an AI.
- 16:55Ejaaz: It's important that that's kept at a privacy level and Apple's really focused
- 16:59Ejaaz: on that, which I thought was really cool.
- 17:01Josh: Yeah. In fact, at the end of the presentation, Craig Federighi went on stage
- 17:05Josh: or he was on camera saying it's actually not even rolling out to the EU just
- 17:08Josh: yet because the EU will not allow this amount of encryption on the services that are being offered.
- 17:14Josh: They don't allow for a complete and total privacy. And that's actually what
- 17:17Josh: Apple is doing. Same thing with China.
- 17:19Josh: They're not releasing it in China right now. And they said they're working with
- 17:22Josh: legislators to get it over there because they will not compromise on the privacy, on the security.
- 17:27Josh: And I think that's a seriously big deal.
- 17:29Josh: And when I think about, I recall the bull case or the bear case that we mentioned
- 17:33Josh: probably close to a year ago now, which was the ability to have like on-prem
- 17:38Josh: compute on the edge inference, like on your local device in a secure and private
- 17:42Josh: way with all of your context.
- 17:44Josh: And that has not actually been a real consideration because no company has been
- 17:48Josh: able to do it. But starting later this year in fall, when iOS 27 is coming out,
- 17:52Josh: when all these new updates come out, it's going to be a real thing where
- 17:56Josh: If the average person wants to use AI, all they have to do is hold down the
- 17:59Josh: power button on their phone and activate Siri.
- 18:01Josh: And that gives them enough AI to get done the things that matter to them,
- 18:06Josh: to get done all of the contextual tasks, to have small agentic abilities,
- 18:10Josh: like going and change your passwords, but also being able to plan a trip.
- 18:12Josh: And all of that now is going to live within the Siri application,
- 18:15Josh: which is now a standalone app
- 18:17Josh: on your phone, similar to what you're used to with ChatGPT, with Claude,
- 18:21Josh: with Gemini, where you start a conversation, you continue a conversation,
- 18:24Josh: except you never have to train this AI on memories about you.
- 18:28Josh: It has all of the memories.
- 18:29Josh: It's totally private. You can trust it with your data. Your data is already
- 18:33Josh: there. It's an incredibly compelling offering if you are AI curious and you're
- 18:37Josh: not a power user who pays 20, 100, $200 for these premium AI services.
- 18:41Josh: And I think for a lot of people, that's gonna be enough.
- 18:44Josh: So we're gonna see what the implications of that are as this gets rolled out
- 18:47Josh: through the end of the year and it's next year in the sense that is this actually
- 18:50Josh: going to make a dent in these subscriptions of the larger AI labs because people,
- 18:55Josh: it turns out, they don't actually care too much for frontier intelligence.
- 18:58Josh: They don't need to go solve biology problems or chemistry problems.
- 19:01Josh: They just want to be able to plan their calendar, schedule their grocery delivery
- 19:05Josh: automatically, and make sure it's all managed internally by their AI.
- 19:08Josh: I mean, it's something I think a lot of people are going to be very intrigued to want to use.
- 19:12Ejaaz: Yeah, if you're looking at this just from like an investor perspective,
- 19:17Ejaaz: this could be a real problem if Apple actually scales this up, right?
- 19:20Ejaaz: Because it proves that like small models work and you don't need a large model
- 19:24Ejaaz: and also the cheaper less frontier models are just sufficient enough for people now um,
- 19:30Ejaaz: With the concept of subscriptions versus paper usage, I believe Apple is just
- 19:34Ejaaz: letting people use their inference and AI features for free.
- 19:38Ejaaz: But there's a daily usage limit or like a paper usage limit that might come
- 19:43Ejaaz: into effect after you've hit
- 19:44Ejaaz: a particular limit. What those tier packages look like, I have no idea.
- 19:48Ejaaz: I think it would be crazy if Apple subsidized 3.5 billion active Apple devices.
- 19:53Ejaaz: But I think we're going to start to see some kind of a subscription package
- 19:56Ejaaz: where it's focused on giving like 80% of Frontier intelligence for free.
- 20:01Ejaaz: And then like, if you want anything after that, you can kind of like pay,
- 20:04Ejaaz: you know, on a usage based type thing.
- 20:06Ejaaz: Now, I have one qualm with all of this, Josh, which is,
- 20:10Ejaaz: if you bought a very expensive iPhone 16 a few years ago, which they marketed
- 20:15Ejaaz: and advertised as built from the ground up for AI, you can't run like 75% of,
- 20:23Ejaaz: of the AI features that they announced yesterday.
- 20:25Ejaaz: You need something of the iPhone 17 or 18 and above because of the chip device
- 20:30Ejaaz: architecture that I was mentioning earlier.
- 20:32Ejaaz: So this is something that I guess, like, is not the greatest thing.
- 20:36Ejaaz: It might be another false advertising issue, but, you know, if you had a two-year-old,
- 20:40Ejaaz: device that you bought from Apple and you're thinking like, hey,
- 20:42Ejaaz: I wanna run a bunch of these features that are rolling out by the end of the
- 20:45Ejaaz: year, you can't actually do that.
- 20:48Josh: Yeah, it's a bummer. I mean, Apple messed this up a couple of times over.
- 20:50Josh: And also a note on the usage limits.
- 20:52Josh: Craig actually, during the presentation yesterday, spoke about them briefly,
- 20:56Josh: where if you're using local inference on device, you have unlimited infinite.
- 20:59Josh: If you're querying the private cloud server, you get a certain amount.
- 21:02Josh: The overflow will be directed through your iCloud account, your iCloud service package.
- 21:07Josh: So if you're paying $5 a month for two terabytes of storage or whatever backup,
- 21:11Josh: that will be enough to kind of absorb the extra queries that you have.
- 21:14Josh: So it's already baked into where you are. There's no separate subscriptions.
- 21:17Josh: It's all under one roof in terms of this.
- 21:20Josh: Yeah, I mean, it sucks. Last year, everyone was buying the new iPhone 16 built
- 21:23Josh: for Apple intelligence.
- 21:24Josh: Apple intelligence didn't exist.
- 21:26Josh: Now that it does, the phone is not compatible. It sucks. It's a bummer.
- 21:30Josh: And it's particularly a bummer because of some of these additional features
- 21:33Josh: that I do have to share in the photos app. The photos app is getting a really amazing upgrade.
- 21:40Josh: And as I was watching this, I have like the ghost of see if I was past perpetually in my head.
- 21:45Josh: And I know that he is sitting here cringing because so much of the art form
- 21:49Josh: of photography is the real raw and natural way that it comes out,
- 21:53Josh: Not the digitized version.
- 21:54Josh: What they've done is they've, they've stepped it up. They've taken it all the
- 21:57Josh: way to the furthest degree in three features that they announced cleanup,
- 22:01Josh: reframe and extend. These are the three core pillars of your new photo app.
- 22:04Josh: If you take photos, if you own an iPhone, you're going to love this.
- 22:07Josh: So the cleanup feature is basically what we're seeing on screen here is an original
- 22:11Josh: photo of someone holding a card in front of their face.
- 22:14Josh: In iOS 26, it lacked the contextual awareness to understand what your face actually
- 22:18Josh: looked like. So it turned you into a blob. You kind of had like a fudgy nose
- 22:22Josh: with like really mixed up eyes.
- 22:24Josh: IOS 27 solves this. It applies real intelligence to these photos.
- 22:28Josh: It really makes it look like a big deal. Reframe is the second feature.
- 22:33Josh: I think reframe is probably the one that I'm most excited about.
- 22:36Josh: Reframe will take a photo that you've shot that is framed pretty poorly if you
- 22:40Josh: didn't frame it well if it didn't look so good on the first version what it
- 22:43Josh: does is it turns it into a splat we're seeing on screen it turns into a 3d splat which basically
- 22:48Josh: adjusts and adds layers to the image so there's real depth it allows you to
- 22:52Josh: zoom in pan tilt and move the image and then any parts the images that are lost
- 22:57Josh: it will actually generate in the background afterwards so you can very quickly
- 23:01Josh: reframe it and then it will generate afterwards in your camera roll and it leaves
- 23:04Josh: you with really compelling results where, I mean, what we're seeing on screen
- 23:07Josh: is this is a totally different image.
- 23:09Ejaaz: I'm looking at the background, Josh. Can you see it? Like I'm looking at this
- 23:13Ejaaz: person's face over here and I'm wondering whether it gets distorted a bit in
- 23:16Ejaaz: the background, but it is a very cool feature. No, it's cool.
- 23:19Josh: Yeah. It's amazing. So that's the second one, reframe. The third is something
- 23:23Josh: that's really cool that we've, I mean, granted we've had these for a while.
- 23:25Josh: We haven't had reframe, but we've had extend for a while in Photoshop,
- 23:28Josh: but extend is now making its way to iOS as well. So if you've taken a photo
- 23:32Josh: and you need to fill the edges, if you want to remove something,
- 23:35Josh: if you need to kind of zoom out, this is what Xtend will do.
- 23:39Josh: It will take an image, it will build artificial borders around it that look
- 23:43Josh: real, that are artificially generated, but are meant to be hyper-realistic.
- 23:47Josh: And this is all leaning on the visual AI local model that runs on your device.
- 23:51Josh: You can see on screen, it just generated an entire coffee shop around a uptight,
- 23:56Josh: up-close shot of coffee.
- 23:58Josh: So it's really impressive. I think a lot of people are going to use these.
- 24:00Josh: A lot of people are going to love these features.
- 24:02Josh: The example they used inside of the demo on the actual presentation was just
- 24:06Josh: photos of your loved ones if you take poor photos that you don't want to lose
- 24:10Josh: that moment you can actually manipulate the moment in such a way that
- 24:14Josh: it still maintains the integrity of it but captures it in a way that's much
- 24:17Josh: more just delightful to see so this in particular was something i'm really excited
- 24:21Josh: to use as someone who loves the phones for the photo features having these tools
- 24:25Josh: natively built into photos app two thumbs up
- 24:27Ejaaz: Okay, so when I was a kid, one of the things I enjoyed doing,
- 24:30Ejaaz: because I was such a cool guy, and I had lots of cool friends to hang out with,
- 24:33Ejaaz: was play around in the virtual simulator. So I would like, fly around the world
- 24:38Ejaaz: and be able to like, see the world for what it is.
- 24:40Ejaaz: It looked very much like how Minecraft looked today. And what Apple released
- 24:45Ejaaz: yesterday was something pretty
- 24:46Ejaaz: cool, which is that 3d Gaussian splat version for Apple Maps itself.
- 24:51Josh: And I mean, so sick,
- 24:52Ejaaz: Like, I don't need to do I don't need to say anything. Just take a look at this video.
- 24:56Ejaaz: This looks so hyper-realistic the trees don't look like broccolis anymore in fact like
- 25:02Ejaaz: if you weren't right if you didn't know this was a gaussian spot you would just
- 25:05Ejaaz: assume this was like an aerial shot drone video of like your city of new york
- 25:10Ejaaz: or wherever you might be so the purpose of this i guess is to make uh travel
- 25:15Ejaaz: or navigation way more interactive
- 25:17Ejaaz: and way more intuitive for you like maybe you're like looking for a particular
- 25:20Ejaaz: shop front but you don't know what it looks like it can like point out like,
- 25:23Ejaaz: hey, this is where you are and you can kind of recognize your surroundings around you.
- 25:27Ejaaz: Just a really cool feature and use of Gaussian spots.
- 25:29Ejaaz: I know that we've been wanting to make an episode on this for a while at Limitless.
- 25:33Ejaaz: And some of the examples that we've shown in the past has been primarily focused
- 25:37Ejaaz: on Hollywood studio effects and recreating movies from scratch for a couple
- 25:40Ejaaz: hundred grand versus millions of dollars.
- 25:42Ejaaz: This is a real practical application that will be live by the end of the year
- 25:47Ejaaz: in 3.5 billion Apple active devices, which will be super cool to see.
- 25:51Josh: Yeah. And we got to put on our conspiracy hats a little bit here because why
- 25:54Josh: is it that we only talk about Gaussian splats, 3D splatting when we mentioned Apple?
- 25:58Josh: Why is it that they're the only company doing this? And I think a lot of what
- 26:01Josh: happened at WWDC this year was just returning to their roots,
- 26:05Josh: patching all their bugs, building and establishing a new foundation in which
- 26:09Josh: they could then launch the new hardware architecture on top of.
- 26:13Josh: John Ternus, the new CEO, this sadly was tim cook's last wwdc
- 26:18Josh: after this john turnus steps in he's a hard work guy what tim cook is leaving
- 26:22Josh: him is this really strong foundation to then build this next level of hardware
- 26:26Josh: on so when we look at these splats
- 26:27Josh: how accurate they are when we look at the photo app how it's so good at understanding
- 26:31Josh: three dimensions and 3d splatting a lot of this is the infrastructure and the
- 26:35Josh: foundation for the next suite of hardware devices for the glasses that they
- 26:39Josh: are going to be working on
- 26:40Josh: and you'll note that there was a lot of rumors over the past couple of weeks that
- 26:44Josh: apple has fully scrapped to their Vision Pro program.
- 26:46Josh: The large goggles that everyone loves, I mean, that I love that were largely
- 26:50Josh: considered a flop, but I think were the most impressive piece of hardware ever.
- 26:54Josh: They're no longer on the upgrade path. They're not going to continue to iterate on those.
- 26:58Josh: They're going to build glasses instead. What are those glasses going to rely
- 27:01Josh: on? A lot of things like this. Splats. Why?
- 27:04Josh: Because splats are very low bandwidth, high fidelity versions of reality that you can interact with.
- 27:11Josh: And when you're trying to run these things locally on device,
- 27:13Josh: on something as small as glasses, it's really important to have that architecture in place.
- 27:18Josh: And what we're seeing here is early tastes of what these future devices are
- 27:21Josh: going to look like deployed as really fun products. So we have Google Maps that
- 27:25Josh: has really great splats.
- 27:26Josh: Why are they doing that? Because they're improving their splat technology for
- 27:29Josh: this next generation of hardware.
- 27:31Josh: And I think that's really important to note. Another thing that was really exciting
- 27:34Josh: is, or maybe not exciting for some,
- 27:36Josh: Is that they didn't actually capture any surface area. A lot of times at WWDC,
- 27:41Josh: we make the joke of like, what startup are they going to kill this week?
- 27:44Josh: Who are they going to like destroy, knock out of business because they replaced
- 27:47Josh: their feature? And the answer today was nobody.
- 27:49Josh: There's really no novel new things that they were trying to replace.
- 27:53Josh: They were just going back to the basics. They're making everything that should
- 27:55Josh: have worked in the past work currently, for example.
- 27:58Josh: On my Mac, when I press the search bar and I go to search for something,
- 28:02Josh: it takes 10, 15 seconds to populate.
- 28:04Josh: If I'm searching my email in the mail app, That search bar sucks,
- 28:07Josh: dude. I can't find any emails that I want. It's so bad. So they spent this WWDC
- 28:12Josh: really just fixing everything, building the foundation for this next frontier of hardware.
- 28:17Josh: And I see on screen, you're teasing a resizing feature that also infers there's
- 28:22Josh: another piece of hardware coming separate from these glasses that we could expect pretty soon.
- 28:26Ejaaz: Yeah, so for a lot of people seeing this demo on screen right now,
- 28:30Ejaaz: they might just kind of like look past and be like, okay, whatever, who cares?
- 28:34Ejaaz: What we're seeing on the screen is basically the UI or the user interface being
- 28:38Ejaaz: resized in real time, flipping between an iPhone orientation to an iPad orientation
- 28:44Ejaaz: to maybe even a full MacBook Pro screen sizing.
- 28:47Ejaaz: The reason for this is they're reformatting the code, Xcode specifically,
- 28:53Ejaaz: for their rumored new device that is going to be a foldable phone.
- 28:57Ejaaz: So you should be able to flip between a regular iPhone-sized screen and an iPad-sized screen.
- 29:02Ejaaz: And so Apple is really prepping not just their software, but for their future
- 29:07Ejaaz: of hardware, which is going to look very much like the new world of AI or for a new era of AI.
- 29:14Ejaaz: And it's going to involve a lot, not just like screen and visual outputs,
- 29:17Ejaaz: but it's going to involve a lot of transcriptive stuff.
- 29:20Ejaaz: It's going to involve a lot of voice-based AIs, as we've seen with the Apple foundational model.
- 29:24Ejaaz: So I think the way, if I had to summarize WWDC of this year,
- 29:29Ejaaz: I would say that Apple is laying the foundation for taking AI a lot more seriously going forward.
- 29:35Ejaaz: And I think with John Turnus at the helm, hardware is going to be at the forefront
- 29:39Ejaaz: of their focus. I think they have the foundational elements.
- 29:41Ejaaz: They have the Apple Vision Pro, which was just kind of too expensive and not
- 29:44Ejaaz: accessible to enough people.
- 29:46Ejaaz: They're rumored to be working on a new set of glasses, which has been derived
- 29:49Ejaaz: from the hardware that they built using Apple Vision Pro.
- 29:52Ejaaz: They're rebuilding their entire iOS system. They've got Siri as their main flagship
- 29:55Ejaaz: AI system, which, by the way, doesn't need to use Google Gemini models in the future.
- 29:59Ejaaz: It could technically be an orchestrator. That's how they described it on yesterday's
- 30:03Ejaaz: event, that it could be an orchestrator of different models.
- 30:06Ejaaz: It could be Apple's own foundational models. It could be ChatGPT in the future.
- 30:10Ejaaz: It could be Claude in the future. The point is, if Siri AI is the funnel,
- 30:14Ejaaz: then Apple owns the entire distribution.
- 30:16Ejaaz: And that alone is the most important or rather bullish investment case for Apple alone.
- 30:22Ejaaz: Now, despite this, the announcement yesterday of WWDC sent Apple stock cratering
- 30:26Ejaaz: around 6%. So I think that was a classic case of buy the rumor, sell the news.
- 30:31Ejaaz: But I do think if you're taking a long-term perspective on Apple,
- 30:34Ejaaz: at least for me specifically, I'm incredibly optimistic about where they're
- 30:38Ejaaz: going to take this simply because they have one moat.
- 30:41Ejaaz: OpenAI and Anthropic don't have, which is just so much user data and intents
- 30:47Ejaaz: and the hardware to be able to distribute it on.
- 30:49Ejaaz: OpenAI is working on their own AI device. They haven't released it yet.
- 30:53Ejaaz: And once they do, it's going to be really hard to scale.
- 30:55Ejaaz: Anthropic, for all I know, isn't working on a hardware device yet.
- 30:58Ejaaz: Maybe they will in the future.
- 31:00Ejaaz: But in order to ramp up and compete with Apple, the only other company that can do that is Google.
- 31:04Ejaaz: And they're kind of sequestering their own AI model to Apple to use for a billion
- 31:08Ejaaz: dollars a year and giving them access to model weight.
- 31:10Ejaaz: So I think if you're looking at Apple as an investment case,
- 31:13Ejaaz: if you're looking at Apple and thinking, how will they fare in the future for
- 31:16Ejaaz: AI? I think they're going for the consumer AI mode specifically.
- 31:20Ejaaz: And I think they're really well positioned to do so.
- 31:22Josh: Yeah, I think sentiment for me personally, at least, changed in a meaningful way this time around.
- 31:27Josh: There was no flashiness, there was no like selling the magic, which is a bummer.
- 31:33Josh: But that's not what this needs to be. This needs to be stability,
- 31:36Josh: returning to the roots, building that strong foundation, establishing a place
- 31:39Josh: in which they can build their next form factor of hardware on top of and in
- 31:45Josh: there was very much a mission success and what a gift this is to john turnus
- 31:48Josh: the new ceo from tim cook to hand off a
- 31:51Josh: feature complete software stack ready for the next generation of hardware which
- 31:56Josh: he specializes in and we just need to take a moment to appreciate tim cook one
- 32:00Josh: more time because this is the last event that he's going to be doing um
- 32:02Josh: The next hardware event is going to be in september that is going to be for the iPhones.
- 32:06Josh: That's when John is going to be starting his journey as CEO of Apple.
- 32:10Josh: And Tim did the impossible thing of taking over a company from what a lot of
- 32:14Josh: people deem as the most incredible entrepreneur of all time,
- 32:17Josh: Steve Jobs. And he did that 15 years ago in 2011.
- 32:21Josh: And over that 15-year run, he managed to take Apple on a, I think, 2,200% growth rate,
- 32:29Josh: of a stock that was impossibly challenging to scale to follow up the most challenging
- 32:35Josh: CEO role of all time. And he's just a superstar. He just did a really great job.
- 32:40Josh: He managed to steer Apple away from a lot of the drama that could have got them in trouble.
- 32:44Josh: Although like the company, they did lack magic during this time.
- 32:46Josh: They didn't have any incredible products or hardware.
- 32:49Josh: They did the basics right. And still to this day, 15 years later,
- 32:53Josh: I am using exclusively Apple products for everything that I do.
- 32:57Josh: And outside of the software that they just fixed, I have no complaints.
- 32:59Josh: So it was a pretty incredible run by Tim Cook. Just got to give him some props for what he did.
- 33:05Josh: And now I'm just really excited for the next generation of Apple.
- 33:07Josh: This very much feels like a fresh slate.
- 33:09Josh: Tim Cook handed off a really strong company to John.
- 33:13Josh: John is now going to take it forward with hardware. And personally,
- 33:16Josh: this is what I'm most excited about. We have OpenAI with their AI First device.
- 33:19Josh: Apple has a chance to get in the game. They're going to be doing it.
- 33:22Josh: And the next couple of years are going to be awesome. We have the 20th anniversary
- 33:26Josh: of the iPhone next year. We have a foldable this year.
- 33:28Josh: We have the glasses coming probably next year, 2028.
- 33:33Josh: I mean, this is a huge, fully stacked lineup. and Apple's got a shot at this thing now.
- 33:37Ejaaz: I think something coming potentially sooner than that will also be like their
- 33:40Ejaaz: earbuds that have all the airports that have the cameras and they've got some
- 33:44Ejaaz: kind of other like pendant type device. Probably get it this fall.
- 33:46Ejaaz: All rumors, but maybe this fall.
- 33:48Ejaaz: And so I'm excited to see that go head to head with whatever open AI devices.
- 33:51Ejaaz: But that brings us to the end of the episode. That is everything and anything
- 33:55Ejaaz: you need to know about WODC.
- 33:57Ejaaz: Very AI focused, which is what we like on this show.
- 34:00Ejaaz: And thankfully things that we can actually use today. If you're a developer,
- 34:04Ejaaz: I don't know if you mentioned this earlier, but you can get access to this for about 100 bucks.
- 34:09Ejaaz: It might be a little tricky, too. You need to get that membership, but it is accessible.
- 34:13Ejaaz: If not, these features will basically roll out by the end of the year.
- 34:17Ejaaz: So lots coming by the end of the year. We've got all these IPOs.
- 34:19Ejaaz: We've got all these new AI features, all these new rumored AI devices.
- 34:22Ejaaz: It's going to be a big, big rest of the year.
- 34:25Ejaaz: But that is it for this episode. Josh, any final thoughts?
- 34:28Josh: Yeah, no, if you're a developer, if you have that license to go and download
- 34:31Josh: iOS 27, you probably already know this, but don't download this on your personal devices.
- 34:36Josh: The beta versions of all of these are notorious battery drainers.
- 34:39Josh: They will destroy your phones. They're not meant for public use.
- 34:42Josh: They're meant for developer use.
- 34:43Josh: But if you do have it and you do install it on a second device,
- 34:46Josh: let us know what you think. I'd be so curious to hear the reviews.
- 34:49Josh: I've been on X scrolling, seeing all the features. I'm curious also just to know,
- 34:53Josh: your thoughts on this. Are we, is Apple back? Are we forgiving Apple or can
- 34:58Josh: we not forgive them for the fact that if your phone is one year old,
- 35:00Josh: you can't even run the front tier models on your device.
- 35:02Josh: I understand both sides. I understand both sides. They're both right,
- 35:06Josh: but I want to hear which one you stand on. And yeah, that's,
- 35:09Josh: that's the update. You are now fully up to date on WWDC.
- 35:12Josh: We have a very exciting week of content coming, so please stick around for that.
- 35:16Josh: But without any further ado, I think that wraps up. Thank you guys so much for
- 35:19Josh: watching and we will see you in the next one.
- 35:22Ejaaz: See you guys.