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Clydesdale Media Roundtable - Don and Dave making the Ciruit in Different Ways · Clydesdale Media Podcast

• 0:27
  What is going on, everybody?
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  Welcome to the Clydesdale
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  Media Roundtable.
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  I know Kenneth's already
• 0:34
  here saying there should be
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  a lot to talk about.
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  What's odd is this is really
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  like our lifestyle type
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  show that we do once a week.
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  So it's not like super
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  serious CrossFit show.
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  I'm a super serious CrossFitter.
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  But, yeah,
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  but we talk about like how it
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  affects us and like the people around us.
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  And we have our third.
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  Yeah.
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  Yeah.
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  There she is.
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  Hey, I thought it was early.
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  But, but,
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  but a lot of shit has happened in
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  the last 24 to 48 hours.
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  So we're probably going to
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  be talking about that.
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  So, but first of all, let's,
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  we always open this up with
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  how are you guys all doing?
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  Anything big happen for you
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  guys this weekend?
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  Well,
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  I shared with you guys on the text stream,
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  but I was pretty excited that Shmoopy.
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  Who?
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  Nate Radowski.
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  Yeah, my kid.
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  It seems like he's still a young kid,
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  but he's an adult.
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  And he took his level one.
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  and, um, passed and has started to, um,
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  do some coaching and, um,
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  it's been awesome to,
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  to kind of watch that path.
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  And he's always, like I've said before,
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  he's always coached me like
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  at home or something, you know,
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  if we're in the garage,
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  he's got a great eye.
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  Um, but to see him get to, um,
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  explore that with other athletes is cool.
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  So cool.
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  Yeah.
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  Yeah.
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  I can't,
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  I couldn't even imagine if like
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  Corey got her level one,
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  how I would feel.
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  So I can't imagine.
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  yeah correct what and he's
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  using it yeah exactly I
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  would just be happy if my
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  kids showed up at my gym
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  and worked out every once
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  in a while that would be
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  really nice yeah my
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  daughter's boyfriend came
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  to the gym last week he
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  asked if he could come and
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  he showed up with a friend
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  of his and I watched him on
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  the security camera fiddle
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  around with the with the um
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  the Wi-Fi to try to get the
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  music going for about 20 minutes.
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  Him and his buddy.
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  Part of me wanted to just
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  click on and talk to him about it.
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  I was like,
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  I'm just going to let them figure it out.
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  For sure.
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  Oh, people's champ is showing up.
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  The question is, he's here.
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  I can't get him in.
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  Well, that's because we're three.
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  He's banned.
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  Well, usually...
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  I'm trying.
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  There we go.
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  I meant to do a wardrobe change.
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  I meant to wear this new shirt that I got.
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  So cool.
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  Only took me a full season
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  to get it to you.
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  I know.
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  That's okay.
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  I love it.
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  Thank you.
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  Speaking of Thick Boy,
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  he's going to be on the show Thursday.
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  uh 11 a.m talking about what
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  he how he created this
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  whole thing and in less
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  than a year is already
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  going to be one of the
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  presenting sponsors of the
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  masters crossfit games it's
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  going to be he is working
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  with thunder bro he's
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  working with a bunch of top
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  level organizations making
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  their shirts and stuff so
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  we're going to dive into
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  all of that on thursday is
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  thunder still a thing it is
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  every once in a while
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  You mean after What's-His-Face left,
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  Jason Ackerman, they still survived?
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  We have Charles Worth left.
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  I'm pretty sure.
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  Imagine that.
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  Imagine that.
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  Yeah.
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  And Camille has her thing, too.
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  And they're combined as one business now.
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  Okay.
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  That's awesome.
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  So, yeah.
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  So, Shmoopy has his level one.
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  He's using it as a coach.
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  Mm-hmm.
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  Charlie somehow got enough
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  Wi Fi to get into the the meeting today,
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  which is going and the two PS twos.
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  And Charlie and I aren't
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  fighting because he worked out today.
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  I did.
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  Not fun.
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  I worked out today.
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  What'd you do?
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  Cause I couldn't work out yesterday.
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  I'm leading a project at
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  work and yesterday was sign off day.
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  So I got up, I did it at my morning break.
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  It was awful.
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  It was Annie with a cap of 15 minutes.
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  Okay.
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  Every time you have left is 10, 20,
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  30 on of cow bike and wall balls.
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  My gym is back on track with
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  your programming.
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  So that's our workout for today as well.
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  I should have paced Annie much more.
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  Yeah.
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  I think in the notes, though, it said,
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  like, go for a PR or something.
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  I was like, what?
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  That's crazy.
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  The wall ball,
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  I just don't have the timing
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  back on the wall balls yet.
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  Like, and I only have a 20-pound ball,
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  so there's no scaling in my garage.
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  So, yeah, it's just.
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  Is it 1,897 degrees where you guys live,
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  too?
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  It actually cooled off today.
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  Yes.
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  But it had been.
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  Yes.
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  Yeah.
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  It's going to be 100 degrees
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  here tomorrow.
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  We're finally getting some rain,
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  which we needed.
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  And now I know how old I am
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  because I've been worried
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  about the rain because of my yard.
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  Yep.
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  That's where I'm at right now.
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  There's a new grass patch
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  out front and a tree that I planted.
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  And it's like, ah.
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  I planted a vegetable garden
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  for the first time in like
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  probably 10 years.
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  And I'm so worried about my
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  veggies getting their water.
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  It's been freaking me out
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  that we've gotten no rain.
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  I know.
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  We're old.
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  We're all old.
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  But I got one pepper already.
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  So why Charlie?
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  We I'll do any of this stuff.
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  Well, listen,
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  did you get your mower fixed?
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  I did.
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  Because your wife fixed it
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  or you got a new one?
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  I had to fix it.
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  Let's not.
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  I got a new one.
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  She sent you a fake video.
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  Oh, look at me.
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  I fixed it.
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  And then it didn't work.
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  Well, yeah.
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  Yeah.
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  Yeah.
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  Julie is always going to fix something.
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  We've talked about this the
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  last couple of weeks.
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  Like 10 minutes in and says, F it.
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  And then I'm left to come in
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  and clean up whatever mess she's made.
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  Yep.
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  I feel like it's a trap.
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  Oh, I, it was a complete strategy.
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  It is like,
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  she knows that it's going to
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  drive me nuts to have like
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  all the paint supplies out
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  or all of this out.
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  And then I'm going to go
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  finish whatever she started.
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  Yeah,
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  but at least you guys have like joint
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  projects, right?
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  That's kind of nice to be
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  able to work on together.
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  It's like I'll be away
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  getting groceries or I'll
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  be at work doing something,
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  come home to the mess that
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  was started without my knowledge.
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  And now my whole day is
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  cleaning up whatever was started.
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  Have your spouses ever
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  initiated a project and
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  done something that you
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  absolutely hated or like?
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  had to veto or said like, Nope,
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  we're not doing this.
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  No.
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  Cause it's usually,
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  I'm usually the one in
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  charge of the ideas and just,
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  Charlie is Lisa in charge
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  of like the decorating and
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  designing things.
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  Yes.
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  Okay.
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  Is Julia, is Jules part of that too?
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  Scott, she's in charge of the design.
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  Pretty much.
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  Okay.
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  Cool.
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  Yeah.
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  I have this room.
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  Everything else is decorated by her.
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  So update on the deck project.
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  That's what I was doing today.
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  So I had replaced all the
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  boards and I told you that
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  I did most of it, but Scott,
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  I'm not authorized to use a saw.
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  So Scott had to do that part,
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  but I did everything else.
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  And then it was too hot last week,
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  so I didn't do any painting.
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  And then two days ago,
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  I went out and power washed
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  the deck and cleaned it off.
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  And then today I started painting.
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  I'm about halfway done.
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  And then I had to pack up
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  because there's rain happening.
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  But it's much cooler.
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  Are you painting or staining?
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  Well, it's deck over stain.
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  Okay.
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  Yeah.
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  Cool.
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  So using my fitness there
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  because that five-gallon
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  bucket that I'm carrying around of paint.
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  Mm-hmm.
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  What do you do with Murph?
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  Does he have access to the deck?
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  You have to keep him off the deck?
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  Well, it will dry really quickly,
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  but I just end up having
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  him go out front.
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  So it's a good thing you
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  guys can't smell me because
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  I went to the gym and then
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  came home and just started painting.
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  And I was like, oh, well,
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  I better clean up because I
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  got to get on podcast.
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  So, whoo!
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  I have a quick question for
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  Charlie so you guys can
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  just talk amongst yourselves.
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  With the Florida Panthers
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  winning the Stanley Cup
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  last night and Bob being their goalie,
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  as a Blue Jackets fan,
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  do you root for him or are
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  you pissed that he won a cup?
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  I do not root for him because he left,
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  but no.
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  No, I don't root for him.
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  Well,
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  the Blue Jackets didn't even try to
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  re-sign him.
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  At the time,
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  they said he wasn't good enough.
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  Wow.
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  That's a different story.
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  And since then,
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  how have the Blue Jackets done?
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  Not good, okay?
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  And he just won the Cup,
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  so just wanted to get
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  your... That group's not here anymore.
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  We've moved on.
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  We don't look in the past.
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  We look forward.
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  We don't really look forward either.
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  We just kind of,
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  we're looking way forward.
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  Please don't leave.
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  All right.
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  Well,
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  we got to get a couple big items out
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  of the way that happened in
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  CrossFit in the last 48 hours.
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  And I'm going to start with
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  Dawn fall was on coffee
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  pods and wads and about 35
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  minutes into the conversation, uh,
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  the first 35 minutes are
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  about affiliates and,
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  and growing CrossFit and
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  all of that stuff.
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  And not that that's not important,
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  but it doesn't really pertain to us.
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  35 minutes,
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  they'd start talking about media.
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  And when they start talking about media,
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  it starts with that.
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  There is a group of people
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  out there that are being
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  very negative and, uh, cutting down,
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  cutting down individuals, uh,
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  and don fall doesn't like it
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  and he he actually I
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  believe got emotional about
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  his response to that group
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  well it's very clear who
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  that group was and then
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  they addressed it yeah
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  murph's pissed about it too
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  um peter then followed up
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  with are we talking about hiller
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  And he said, yes,
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  he is part of that group.
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  And then he got very
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  emotional and said that, you know,
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  when he signed up for this,
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  he knew that this stuff was coming.
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  But some of the people that
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  they have hired did not
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  know this was coming,
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  and it's unfair to them to
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  be attacked in this way.
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  So I will open it up for your thoughts.
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  Who's getting attacked?
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  So if you haven't seen...
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  No, I mean, I have seen,
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  and that's why I'm saying,
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  but I'm still saying,
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  I'm still asking the question.
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  Chief people officer has been attacked.
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  Is that JD?
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  Jada Coons was attacked at one time.
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  There's another person like
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  a couple of weeks ago that was listed as,
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  as somebody too.
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  I can't remember.
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  Attacked verbally.
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  Hiller put out a video using
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  like a video he got of them
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  and then make statements
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  about that person throughout.
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  I believe that's, they don't,
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  they don't say specifically
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  in this interview what
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  they're pissed about.
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  And I say they,
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  because simultaneously on the same day,
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  Dave did his weekend review
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  and said the same,
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  almost verbatim what Don fall said.
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  uh about like basically
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  don't hurt my family if you
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  want to come after me great
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  that I can take it but
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  don't come after the other
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  people who signed up for
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  this who didn't sign up for
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  this so Aaron Fraser says
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  uh he used their own words
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  so basically he plays a
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  video uses what they said
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  and then gives his commentary on that
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  Yeah,
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  I don't know if I would call that
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  attacking, but... Who is Hiller?
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  Why would he care?
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  What's Hiller going to do?
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  Great, you talked about... Okay.
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  Yeah, well, I mean,
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  he's got a huge platform,
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  and I think he's trying to expose...
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  things about the
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  organization that that
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  maybe he doesn't agree with
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  or that he doesn't think
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  most people agree with
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  because I do think he's I
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  think in his mind he's
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  representing a large
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  faction of people that are
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  fans of the sport or that
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  are doing the methodology
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  And he definitely causes...
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  It's polarizing, right?
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  I mean,
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  you're either kind of for him or
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  against him.
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  It's hard to sort of play a
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  middle role there.
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  But I think it's entertaining.
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  I think he tries to
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  entertain his audience and...
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  I don't know.
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  Do you guys think he's
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  crossed the line on this stuff?
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  Is that what I'm hearing?
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  I think he is really
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  passionate about CrossFit.
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  And I think he is a great
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  benefit to CrossFit because of that.
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  Because he cares so much.
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  If he wasn't caring as much about CrossFit,
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  then why would he be
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  dabbling and speaking so
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  much and using his platform for it?
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  It did give me a little bit
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  of pause when Don was
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  saying when he attacks individuals.
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  And I...
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  And I don't want to I don't
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  want to reference that.
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  I think that he necessarily
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  attacks individuals,
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  but I do think he calls out
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  individual people.
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  He targets.
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  Yeah, that's a better word.
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  Yeah.
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  Yeah.
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  Targets individual people.
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  And so I can see how
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  individual people would feel.
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  you know,
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  like that's a big response to them.
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  But I was more so thinking
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  of the athletes and them
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  being targeted and called
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  out for reps and things.
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  I wasn't necessarily looking
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  at it from the whole
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  corporate aspect of it.
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  Yeah,
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  I think this was specifically about
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  the HQ staff that are being attacked.
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  So,
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  Paul Kane is saying Hiller didn't cross
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  a line.
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  Trying to see what else.
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  What I would say is I do
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  think Hiller crosses a line at times,
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  but I think he's okay doing that.
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  I think that if you want to be...
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  biggest name in the sport of
• 16:57
  crossfit and your ut
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  youtube channel to be the
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  biggest you can't sit on
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  the fence you can't
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  straddle the line and I
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  think that he does go over
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  the line on purpose at
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  times for effect and now
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  it's an official podcast
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  official I'm doing a lot lately um
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  I do think on the other side,
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  I do think HQ has messed up
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  some things and we'll get
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  into that in a second,
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  especially with the media side.
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  Um,
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  But I think that Hiller's
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  playing that line.
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  What I don't like is that
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  instead of reaching out to
• 17:41
  Hiller and having a conversation with him,
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  everybody's just kind of
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  the play by CrossFit HQ is
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  to let's not give him access to anything.
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  Let's not give him a media credential.
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  Let's not let him inside the ropes.
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  But none of that is going to stop him,
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  and nobody has reached out to him to say,
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  one,
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  how do you have this big YouTube channel,
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  and how can you help us grow ours?
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  What can we do to work
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  together as opposed to
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  working against each other?
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  Nothing.
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  Nothing?
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  I was just,
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  I think we should read some of
• 18:28
  these comments because I
• 18:29
  think it's important to
• 18:30
  expose different people's
• 18:31
  ideas on here as well.
• 18:35
  Okay, so Anderson said,
• 18:37
  I think Hiller was making a
• 18:38
  lot of inferences on how HQ
• 18:40
  is doing things based on
• 18:41
  what was said in that video.
• 18:45
  Lynn says that Hiller
• 18:47
  targeted people like Brian Friend.
• 18:48
  That's when I stopped watching.
• 18:50
  That to me was crossing a
• 18:51
  line and I can see where
• 18:52
  Don is coming from.
• 18:53
  Mm-hmm.
• 18:55
  Uh, Molo,
• 18:57
  please says the problem with
• 18:58
  Hiller is that he will
• 19:00
  speak with assumptions
• 19:01
  about individuals and that
• 19:02
  understandably upsets HQ.
• 19:04
  I don't blame,
• 19:05
  blame Dave and Don's responses.
• 19:10
  Uh, Molo says at the end of the day,
• 19:12
  though, why would Hiller change anything?
• 19:14
  He's blowing up in views and followers.
• 19:17
  Even if everything he says
• 19:18
  is false or inflated, he's only growing.
• 19:21
  Yeah.
• 19:23
  And let's finish up with Kenneth.
• 19:25
  Outside looking in,
• 19:25
  I would say 75% of what you, Dave,
• 19:28
  get given in terms of
• 19:29
  Hiller content and get mad
• 19:31
  about is taken out of context.
• 19:38
  I mean,
• 19:39
  here's one interesting one I want
• 19:40
  to bring up too.
• 19:43
  Yeah.
• 19:46
  Jade.
• 19:47
  But Jada Coons has like,
• 19:49
  and Peter said this in the interview,
• 19:51
  he's risen from the ashes.
• 19:53
  He has come back and said
• 19:55
  that he did make that statement,
• 19:57
  but he's changed his mind.
• 19:58
  He's done all these things.
• 20:00
  He was thrown to the fire,
• 20:01
  but came out of it on the other end.
• 20:05
  And I don't even think
• 20:07
  Hiller has said anything
• 20:08
  bad about the Coons in the
• 20:10
  last six months.
• 20:13
  So I think like he has come
• 20:15
  out of it on the other side.
• 20:18
  We'll have to wait and see
• 20:19
  about some of the other
• 20:20
  things that have happened.
• 20:26
  Yeah.
• 20:28
  I'll see you in a few minutes.
• 20:33
  Amy had something really
• 20:34
  important to say too.
• 20:36
  Now we're going to miss it.
• 20:40
  Yeah.
• 20:40
  I don't know.
• 20:40
  I mean,
• 20:41
  this space is a very weird space
• 20:46
  for all of us.
• 20:48
  And it always has been, you know,
• 20:50
  for people to be suspect of
• 20:53
  the way things are run.
• 20:54
  And I mean,
• 20:55
  I've always had like a little
• 20:56
  bit of conspiracy theory in
• 20:58
  the back of my pocket with
• 20:59
  like the games and the
• 21:01
  different events and, you know,
• 21:04
  thinking that they're
• 21:05
  trying to get certain
• 21:06
  people to win and they play favorites.
• 21:08
  And I mean,
• 21:10
  all this other stuff doesn't
• 21:11
  really surprise me.
• 21:12
  It just...
• 21:14
  I feel like if you dug into
• 21:15
  any other sport,
• 21:16
  if any other sport was as
• 21:17
  small as this was and had
• 21:19
  such a cult following,
• 21:20
  I think they'd be in the
• 21:21
  same position where you'd
• 21:23
  have people being able to
• 21:24
  poke holes at every corner
• 21:26
  because there are probably
• 21:27
  holes at every corner.
• 21:28
  I mean,
• 21:30
  it's a mishmash of people coming together,
• 21:33
  trying to run this organization.
• 21:34
  Let's face it.
• 21:37
  Everything's going to have
• 21:38
  people like Hiller that
• 21:41
  say different things the
• 21:43
  opposite things I mean
• 21:45
  nobody apparently likes
• 21:46
  roger goodell but and he's
• 21:48
  got bigger people and
• 21:50
  bigger platforms talking
• 21:52
  about different things but
• 21:54
  they still run their
• 21:58
  business if you will and
• 22:01
  they make changes that need
• 22:02
  to be changes and move on I mean
• 22:05
  And I think Hiller's brought
• 22:07
  to light a lot of the
• 22:08
  things that need to change.
• 22:10
  And I think they've acted on
• 22:11
  a handful of them.
• 22:17
  You know, it's a lot of,
• 22:18
  it's the stuff that we've kind of,
• 22:19
  we're always thinking about,
• 22:20
  but we're afraid to talk about.
• 22:23
  I mean, I know as an affiliate owner,
• 22:24
  I was afraid to talk about some things.
• 22:26
  I thought they would yank my affiliate.
• 22:27
  I was as an L three coach.
• 22:29
  I thought I was afraid to
• 22:30
  say things because I
• 22:31
  thought they would yank my
• 22:32
  credentials and they still could.
• 22:33
  And you know, if,
• 22:36
  If I was inflammatory enough
• 22:37
  or ban me from the games or not, let me,
• 22:39
  you know,
• 22:40
  the whole thing about when I was
• 22:41
  a judge at one of those,
• 22:42
  like granted games and I
• 22:43
  totally messed up and I was
• 22:44
  afraid to tell anybody
• 22:45
  because I thought they
• 22:46
  would just like escort me out.
• 22:49
  You know, uh,
• 22:51
  Kenneth says CrossFit fans
• 22:53
  are like wrestling fans,
• 22:54
  extremely passionate and
• 22:55
  extremely biased.
• 22:57
  Oh, opinions that likely won't change.
• 23:04
  I, I think,
• 23:07
  I don't agree with everything Hiller does,
• 23:08
  right?
• 23:09
  I don't think anybody would.
• 23:11
  But I think there's a spot for him,
• 23:12
  and I've always defended
• 23:14
  that he has the right to
• 23:15
  say whatever he wants to say.
• 23:16
  I think that CrossFit is
• 23:19
  making the mistake of feeding into it.
• 23:22
  By coming at him directly,
• 23:24
  all they're doing is feeding him.
• 23:25
  But they're also I feel like
• 23:27
  they're not getting past
• 23:28
  the clicks and the baits
• 23:29
  because they have even said
• 23:31
  that they haven't watched his content,
• 23:33
  which I understand.
• 23:35
  He has a ton of content.
• 23:36
  How could they possibly watch it all?
• 23:39
  But I think it's they need
• 23:40
  to be careful about making
• 23:41
  statements as well if
• 23:43
  they're not consuming the content.
• 23:47
  Right.
• 23:48
  Like there's been ones like
• 23:49
  where you click on,
• 23:50
  it's like the five worst
• 23:51
  things about CrossFit when
• 23:52
  really it was a good thing
• 23:53
  about CrossFit.
• 23:54
  Right.
• 23:55
  But,
• 23:55
  but you would see that title and be like,
• 23:57
  well, screw that guy.
• 23:58
  If he's not going to support us,
• 23:59
  I'm not going to look at it.
• 24:03
  Corey says, Kat,
• 24:04
  they took Suze's affiliate
• 24:05
  off the affiliate map
• 24:06
  because they don't agree
• 24:07
  with some of his views.
• 24:09
  Yeah.
• 24:09
  I heard something that like
• 24:10
  his affiliate was not in
• 24:11
  good standing anymore
• 24:12
  because he didn't have,
• 24:13
  he hadn't renewed his
• 24:15
  credentials or something like that.
• 24:17
  but he had, Oh, okay.
• 24:20
  Then.
• 24:21
  Yeah.
• 24:22
  That's not cool.
• 24:23
  Yeah.
• 24:23
  Yeah.
• 24:24
  I mean, so that proves my point.
• 24:27
  Uh, when the new affiliate stuff came out,
• 24:28
  you had a year to get an L
• 24:30
  two and he had signed up
• 24:32
  for it in January.
• 24:34
  Oh, wow.
• 24:34
  Okay.
• 24:35
  So, uh, so anyway, I just, um,
• 24:41
  the other part I wanted to
• 24:41
  talk about is that, um,
• 24:45
  Peter hit him with the fact
• 24:48
  that the YouTube channel
• 24:49
  has not had a new post in like 40 days.
• 24:53
  And Don went on about the
• 24:55
  expense of all that and how, you know,
• 24:58
  they're focusing in other directions.
• 25:01
  And I just want to use this
• 25:02
  as an opportunity to say,
• 25:03
  we have been hammering home
• 25:05
  that there are all the, and not just us,
• 25:08
  tons of third-party media
• 25:09
  out there with great content.
• 25:12
  Sharon.
• 25:13
  Oh, sorry.
• 25:17
  I've got lots of screens around here.
• 25:18
  He's trying to get us more viewers.
• 25:22
  This just changed to an OnlyFans account.
• 25:25
  This is my real job office, guys.
• 25:27
  I've got other things happening here.
• 25:29
  I'm sorry.
• 25:29
  No, it's okay.
• 25:31
  It's a better way to do that, maybe.
• 25:33
  I don't know.
• 25:36
  So there are a lot of
• 25:38
  third-party media with
• 25:39
  great content out there
• 25:41
  that all they would have to
• 25:42
  do is share it to their YouTube channel.
• 25:44
  That takes no expense.
• 25:47
  None.
• 25:48
  Zip.
• 25:49
  Zero.
• 25:49
  I mean,
• 25:50
  Don said that he thought that
• 25:52
  YouTube is the space where
• 25:53
  they thought they had room for growth.
• 25:57
  Right.
• 25:57
  But I would actually argue
• 25:59
  that they have put out very
• 26:00
  little on the other social
• 26:03
  media aspects as well.
• 26:07
  I've seen a lot of TikTok
• 26:08
  content out of Mike Koslap.
• 26:11
  He works for CrossFit, right?
• 26:12
  No.
• 26:13
  But he was on the floor during semifinals.
• 26:16
  He had that extra special credentials,
• 26:18
  and he's put out a million.
• 26:21
  I mean,
• 26:21
  it's not anything that's not
• 26:24
  informational.
• 26:24
  It's more like exercise porn,
• 26:27
  but whatever.
• 26:28
  Yeah.
• 26:30
  I think they got more things
• 26:31
  to fix than YouTube.
• 26:34
  Oh.
• 26:35
  there's there's uh frank
• 26:37
  wants to get involved frank
• 26:38
  frank and murph want to
• 26:39
  have a little convo uh
• 26:43
  larry young says that has
• 26:45
  to be the thumbnail for the
• 26:46
  video cats oh what my me my
• 26:49
  crotch awesome and again
• 26:54
  saying that they can't
• 26:56
  because it costs too much is ridiculous
• 26:59
  Andrew Hiller made a video a day.
• 27:00
  And I think Peter actually said that like,
• 27:02
  here's a guy in his garage
• 27:03
  making content for,
• 27:06
  for basically nothing.
• 27:08
  Once you have the equipment
• 27:10
  and you guys aren't putting
• 27:11
  out anything and then to
• 27:12
  blame it on the cost of that is,
• 27:15
  is utterly ridiculous.
• 27:17
  Yeah.
• 27:18
  I mean, CrossFit needs to hire Andrew.
• 27:20
  Isn't that the whole point?
• 27:23
  I think that's Andrew Hiller.
• 27:25
  I think that is the, at least talk.
• 27:28
  That's the end game.
• 27:29
  Hire him.
• 27:30
  Hire him.
• 27:32
  He would be so good for them.
• 27:35
  But see,
• 27:35
  then he wouldn't do all this stuff.
• 27:38
  Exactly.
• 27:38
  They're all, you turn,
• 27:41
  and then he'd... And he'd
• 27:43
  go crying into a bag of money and,
• 27:46
  you know, say he was right.
• 27:47
  He'd be like,
• 27:49
  I'm not the problem with CrossFit.
• 27:50
  I'm the one with you guys.
• 27:51
  Then it'll be, you guys are the problem.
• 27:55
  I bet he makes way more
• 27:57
  money what he's doing than
• 27:59
  he could possibly.
• 28:00
  I don't know, man.
• 28:02
  It takes a lot to make some
• 28:03
  money on YouTube.
• 28:05
  I know he's making way more than we are.
• 28:09
  And YouTube takes a huge cut.
• 28:13
  But what I would say, Charlie,
• 28:15
  is if they hired him,
• 28:17
  wouldn't he just become the Loki?
• 28:19
  And could you really, really trust him?
• 28:23
  yes because I think it's all
• 28:26
  a work I mean he'd get he'd
• 28:30
  get eyeballs on the sport
• 28:34
  tenfold of what crossfit's
• 28:36
  able to do on their own I
• 28:38
  mean wouldn't he see I
• 28:40
  don't think they understand
• 28:40
  the value of that wasn't he
• 28:43
  really on mayhem for a long
• 28:44
  time and then he got invited
• 28:51
  Was that a kid or your wife?
• 28:53
  That was a kid.
• 28:54
  Okay.
• 28:59
  Oh.
• 29:01
  Oh, well.
• 29:02
  Yeah.
• 29:02
  I don't even know where we
• 29:03
  were after that.
• 29:04
  Episode one.
• 29:05
  That's what it is.
• 29:07
  That's the difference from
• 29:08
  Greg Glassman CrossFit Today's CrossFit.
• 29:11
  Greg tried to grow the whole
• 29:12
  pie for everyone,
• 29:13
  and now everyone's piece got bigger.
• 29:16
  Now they just want to cut
• 29:17
  out a bigger piece.
• 29:21
  So.
• 29:23
  Told you, Greg needs to buy it again.
• 29:26
  He would never do it.
• 29:29
  He just doesn't need the headache anymore.
• 29:32
  So then let's move to Dave's
• 29:34
  Week in Review where he had
• 29:35
  kind of the same things to say.
• 29:38
  And on Sunday,
• 29:40
  he released his first in an
• 29:42
  athlete series with Brooke
• 29:44
  Wells where he's doing five
• 29:47
  to ten minute interviews
• 29:48
  where on Sunday he said
• 29:50
  with all 80 games athletes.
• 29:58
  On Monday, he backed that down to say,
• 30:00
  I'm going to try to do as
• 30:01
  many as possible.
• 30:03
  Yeah,
• 30:03
  because he realized what the amount
• 30:05
  of work is going to be.
• 30:06
  Yeah.
• 30:07
  I mean, just scheduling 80 of them alone,
• 30:09
  he'd need an assistant to do that.
• 30:12
  The booking of guests is the
• 30:14
  hardest part of doing what we do. 100%.
• 30:17
  Schedules are stupid with these athletes.
• 30:21
  And I would imagine he's
• 30:22
  pretty busy getting ready for the games.
• 30:24
  Like I'm sure he doesn't
• 30:25
  have a whole lot of free time.
• 30:27
  So I have two questions about this series.
• 30:30
  Is it a conflict of interest?
• 30:40
  It could be interpreted as such,
• 30:42
  especially if he doesn't get all 80.
• 30:43
  Right.
• 30:44
  Right.
• 30:47
  Playing favorites.
• 30:49
  I mean, Brooke was his first one.
• 30:52
  That's a huge tell.
• 30:57
  He loves her.
• 30:59
  On a side note,
• 31:00
  is he infatuated with Brooke?
• 31:02
  100%.
• 31:04
  Because he mentioned Brooke
• 31:05
  at least three times in the
• 31:06
  Justin Medeiros interview.
• 31:08
  Oh, he loves her.
• 31:08
  Yeah.
• 31:12
  So...
• 31:14
  I think it's a conflict of
• 31:15
  interest because he has said repeatedly,
• 31:17
  they don't have a finalized
• 31:20
  test until they get to the games.
• 31:23
  They're changing stuff the
• 31:24
  week of the games.
• 31:26
  And when you're asking questions like,
• 31:28
  what do you want to see?
• 31:29
  What don't you want to see?
• 31:31
  Those are questions that can
• 31:33
  influence a programmer.
• 31:38
  Yeah.
• 31:39
  Didn't really think about it, but yeah,
• 31:41
  could be.
• 31:41
  Well, I don't know about Dave though.
• 31:43
  He's pretty,
• 31:44
  you're not gonna tell him what to do.
• 31:49
  No, but you can naturally- No,
• 31:51
  but is he using it as a way
• 31:52
  to either avoid movements
• 31:55
  or include movements based
• 31:56
  on his personal preferences?
• 31:57
  There's a bias there that
• 31:58
  you kind of can't avoid and
• 32:01
  it's unconscious.
• 32:04
  And Fraser even said that about Dave.
• 32:10
  Yeah.
• 32:10
  Are you trying to put stuff
• 32:11
  he wasn't good at in?
• 32:13
  Mm-hmm.
• 32:14
  I mean,
• 32:15
  he knows enough about some of the
• 32:16
  bigger athletes,
• 32:16
  but some of the other ones
• 32:17
  maybe he doesn't.
• 32:18
  I guess, yeah, why did this all happen?
• 32:22
  Why does Dave think he needs
• 32:23
  to be the one to interview
• 32:24
  all the athletes?
• 32:27
  Just because he wants to?
• 32:28
  They don't have money to pay
• 32:29
  anybody else to do it.
• 32:32
  So he said in his weekend
• 32:33
  review that the reason he's
• 32:35
  doing it is he felt
• 32:37
  disconnected from the athletes.
• 32:38
  He realized that as he's
• 32:40
  been on these different
• 32:41
  shows that he doesn't even
• 32:42
  know who the athletes are anymore.
• 32:46
  And these quick five to 10
• 32:48
  minute interviews at least
• 32:49
  gives them an idea of the
• 32:51
  athletes that are out there.
• 32:56
  Well, if he's, if he's going to do that,
• 32:59
  I think it should be a,
• 33:01
  a predetermined set of
• 33:04
  questions and it should be
• 33:06
  the same for everybody.
• 33:08
  Almost like a, like an athlete, like a,
• 33:16
  Like a screening.
• 33:18
  Like an athlete screening, right?
• 33:22
  I'm kind of with Aaron.
• 33:24
  I think he's trying to grow his channel.
• 33:30
  I mean,
• 33:30
  more people are going to watch that
• 33:31
  shit than his weekend reviews.
• 33:33
  So that brings up another thing.
• 33:35
  Why is all the news,
• 33:36
  why is all the games
• 33:38
  content on his channel as
• 33:40
  opposed to the CrossFit Games channel?
• 33:45
  Maybe it's a separate thing.
• 33:49
  Well, it is.
• 33:49
  I mean,
• 33:50
  the YouTube channel is his for sure.
• 33:52
  If he was ever going to give
• 33:54
  anybody money for helping
• 33:56
  him do post-production on his podcast,
• 33:58
  it was not going to come from CrossFit.
• 33:59
  It was going to come out of
• 34:00
  his pocket if he planned to
• 34:03
  give anyone any money for
• 34:05
  doing post-production on his podcast.
• 34:09
  Why would he do that?
• 34:12
  Just saying.
• 34:14
  Has he done anything to
• 34:16
  audio in the last...
• 34:19
  Five months, six months.
• 34:20
  He's, he's put clips out.
• 34:22
  Yeah.
• 34:22
  He's got someone to do clips for him,
• 34:25
  but not to the, not to Apple.
• 34:26
  And I don't think so.
• 34:29
  No, no, he's just doing stuff on it.
• 34:31
  He's cutting up his stuff
• 34:32
  and put it on Instagram.
• 34:34
  Yeah.
• 34:35
  But he's cut out the whole
• 34:36
  audio podcast versions of
• 34:38
  his weekend review.
• 34:39
  Oh, he has.
• 34:40
  Well,
• 34:40
  cause he doesn't have an avenue to do it.
• 34:42
  Cause he was using ours.
• 34:43
  Right.
• 34:44
  Yeah.
• 34:46
  right when he stopped
• 34:48
  publishing to his audio
• 34:50
  page like I can see that
• 34:52
  right right so when when we
• 34:57
  stopped publishing to his
• 34:58
  audio page correct right uh
• 35:05
  acr is saying he's not
• 35:06
  doing the clips himself
• 35:07
  question mark no way no so
• 35:10
  for a period of time at
• 35:11
  least I was doing his clips
• 35:13
  Um,
• 35:14
  from the time he started and I was also
• 35:15
  editing his week, his weeks in review,
• 35:17
  he had a few items that he
• 35:18
  had me edit out.
• 35:20
  He would send me the raw
• 35:21
  video on a Google drive
• 35:23
  that I created for him on
• 35:25
  my personal Google drive.
• 35:26
  And he would post them there
• 35:27
  and I would clip them for
• 35:28
  him and caption them and
• 35:31
  send them to him and then
• 35:32
  put them on Instagram.
• 35:34
  I asked for access to his
• 35:35
  Instagram account.
• 35:36
  He was not comfortable with
• 35:37
  that for whatever reason.
• 35:39
  And so he was posting them himself.
• 35:41
  Um,
• 35:43
  But I was doing the captions
• 35:44
  and I had to do the
• 35:45
  captions outside of Instagram.
• 35:46
  And you can do them in Instagram,
• 35:49
  which is cheaper and a
• 35:51
  little easier to do.
• 35:52
  But because I couldn't do it for him,
• 35:53
  he didn't do that.
• 35:54
  So when I did his
• 35:55
  post-production on those weeks in review,
• 35:57
  I did it and added the
• 35:59
  captions in the software that I use.
• 36:01
  I wouldn't be surprised if
• 36:04
  they're not doing it for him.
• 36:06
  Yeah, I don't know.
• 36:07
  I mean,
• 36:07
  I think we had a conversation and I
• 36:10
  think he said he found
• 36:11
  someone to do them.
• 36:12
  And it obviously wasn't me
• 36:13
  because he and I just
• 36:15
  stopped talking for a
• 36:16
  period of time and he wasn't doing any.
• 36:18
  And I reached back out to
• 36:19
  him and he said that he had someone.
• 36:23
  And then Kat would make the
• 36:24
  audio version and put it up onto Spotify.
• 36:30
  Yeah.
• 36:32
  And I know that he's on StreamYard now.
• 36:34
  Like he just mentioned in
• 36:35
  his last weekend review
• 36:35
  that he's on the StreamYard bandwagon.
• 36:39
  So maybe, maybe they're helping him.
• 36:41
  Yeah,
• 36:41
  I think he did that to start doing
• 36:43
  the athlete interviews.
• 36:47
  Lynn said, it's kind of the same questions,
• 36:49
  years in CrossFit,
• 36:49
  previous times in CrossFit games.
• 36:52
  How was semis?
• 36:53
  What do you want,
• 36:54
  not want to see at the games?
• 36:56
  And I don't think we have a
• 36:59
  sample size big enough to
• 37:01
  definitively say it's going
• 37:03
  to be a consistent.
• 37:03
  They're the same, right?
• 37:05
  We have two examples at this point.
• 37:08
  I'd like to see more
• 37:09
  examples to make sure.
• 37:11
  But even with that and the
• 37:13
  question of what do you want to see,
• 37:14
  not see at the games?
• 37:16
  I think that crosses the
• 37:17
  line over to conflict of interest.
• 37:20
  Well,
• 37:20
  and I would like to see him interview
• 37:22
  some people that he really
• 37:23
  doesn't know because he said this,
• 37:24
  he's doing this because he
• 37:25
  doesn't know a lot of the athletes.
• 37:26
  And so far he's interviewed
• 37:29
  athletes that he knows very, very well.
• 37:30
  Yeah.
• 37:35
  And even like he forgot
• 37:38
  Justin's first games was
• 37:39
  2020 at the COVID games.
• 37:43
  in the interview last night
• 37:44
  so uh andrew stenn uh over
• 37:49
  under on the number of
• 37:50
  athletes he actually gets
• 37:52
  through between now and the
• 37:54
  end of july I say 25. uh
• 37:58
  molo says uh 21. I'm gonna say 18.
• 38:11
  Yeah, I don't think it's past 30.
• 38:14
  I think it's below 30.
• 38:15
  Well, I heard from some people, like,
• 38:20
  there are athletes that
• 38:21
  don't speak English, right?
• 38:24
  When you get over to Asia and Africa,
• 38:27
  you have a chance that they
• 38:28
  don't even... Listen, Corey,
• 38:31
  I'm saying 18 because I've done booking.
• 38:35
  Like, that sucks, right?
• 38:38
  Yeah.
• 38:39
  Like if you don't understand
• 38:40
  how hard it is to book guests,
• 38:42
  like that's why I'm saying 18,
• 38:45
  he's going to dive into this and realize.
• 38:47
  It's way harder than he thought.
• 38:49
  Right.
• 38:51
  Yeah.
• 38:52
  I remember that first year
• 38:53
  when you and I went through and I mean,
• 38:55
  it was spreadsheets and phone calls.
• 38:57
  And when we were trying to
• 38:58
  coordinate the two of us,
• 38:59
  both in the interview, it was like,
• 39:00
  forget it.
• 39:01
  If you can just get the
• 39:02
  person and you're free, just do it.
• 39:05
  Yeah.
• 39:05
  It gets to be just ridiculous.
• 39:07
  Yeah,
• 39:07
  the fact that you've done it on your
• 39:09
  own for the last two years
• 39:10
  is super impressive, Scott.
• 39:12
  I don't know how you do it.
• 39:13
  Because it's not starting
• 39:15
  the conversation.
• 39:15
  It's getting your two
• 39:18
  calendars to match on a day
• 39:21
  where you have enough.
• 39:23
  Now,
• 39:23
  five to 10 minutes might be a lot
• 39:25
  easier than I'm trying to do 60 minutes,
• 39:27
  right?
• 39:27
  But still.
• 39:29
  Yeah, and we're over that barrier of like,
• 39:31
  hey, this is who we are.
• 39:32
  These are the people we've talked to.
• 39:33
  Like, we're legit.
• 39:34
  Can you please talk to us now?
• 39:35
  It's just, oh, I know who you are.
• 39:37
  Let's find some time.
• 39:38
  That's true.
• 39:45
  These type of questions
• 39:46
  aren't getting to know them that much.
• 39:48
  It's more so just info for
• 39:49
  the games and curiosity on
• 39:51
  what they want to see there or not there.
• 40:00
  But he's Dave Castro, though.
• 40:02
  Athletes will drop stuff for Castro.
• 40:07
  I think people will flex
• 40:10
  their schedules to meet with him,
• 40:11
  but he still has to make
• 40:12
  contact with them to ask.
• 40:16
  And then he, in fact,
• 40:17
  has to have time for it as well.
• 40:22
  Andrew says,
• 40:23
  trying to coordinate while
• 40:24
  they're on full games prep is crazy.
• 40:26
  That pretty much just shut down.
• 40:29
  And I switch over to coaches
• 40:31
  because to get an athlete a month out,
• 40:35
  Almost impossible.
• 40:40
  Yeah.
• 40:43
  Yeah.
• 40:44
  And I think there are people
• 40:45
  that don't want to talk to Dave.
• 40:49
  Now, is there a fear factor if you don't?
• 40:54
  He may have that behind him.
• 40:55
  I don't know.
• 41:02
  I mean, as you mentioned before,
• 41:05
  you know,
• 41:06
  like every time I say something
• 41:08
  about Dave or Dawn or CrossFit HQ,
• 41:10
  there's a piece in the back
• 41:12
  of my head going, well,
• 41:13
  that could be the end of my
• 41:14
  media credential.
• 41:15
  Yeah.
• 41:15
  Same.
• 41:18
  And you know,
• 41:18
  the athletes have to feel similar.
• 41:20
  Right.
• 41:25
  With the way penalties are handed out.
• 41:29
  It's always possible.
• 41:31
  Yeah.
• 41:33
  Always possible.
• 41:33
  Yeah.
• 41:36
  Kenneth says, should ask them,
• 41:37
  do you train an affiliate?
• 41:38
  Do you have an L1?
• 41:40
  Excellent question.
• 41:41
  Yeah,
• 41:42
  I think that would be a good way to
• 41:44
  then use that platform to
• 41:46
  promote the affiliates,
• 41:48
  promote getting the credentials.
• 41:50
  Right.
• 41:53
  That's actually an excellent idea,
• 41:54
  Kenneth.
• 41:56
  And encouraging athletes to do that too.
• 41:57
  I mean,
• 41:58
  maybe when we highlight athletes at
• 41:59
  the games, there should be something
• 42:01
  you know, on their Jersey or, you know,
• 42:03
  like remember how with,
• 42:05
  didn't they used to have
• 42:06
  their affiliate name on their Jersey?
• 42:09
  I thought that was, yeah.
• 42:10
  I feel like that was part of
• 42:11
  their uniform way back when.
• 42:12
  And like, that's kind of fallen off.
• 42:15
  And if they, and if they were coaches,
• 42:17
  like that would be cool to
• 42:18
  have like their, you know,
• 42:19
  if they're an L2 or an L3,
• 42:21
  put it on their sleeve of their uniform.
• 42:24
  Do you remember when,
• 42:25
  if you were a past champion,
• 42:26
  you got like the little
• 42:27
  gold medal on your Jersey?
• 42:28
  Yeah.
• 42:31
  Well,
• 42:31
  and then that meant he ran out of space.
• 42:35
  Yeah, there's so many.
• 42:36
  There's too many.
• 42:36
  He couldn't do it.
• 42:39
  Well,
• 42:39
  it's just like when you're counting up.
• 42:41
  When you get five,
• 42:42
  you get the real big medal.
• 42:44
  Oh, there you go.
• 42:45
  It's like the upgrade to poker chips.
• 42:49
  They used to do that all the time,
• 42:50
  put affiliate names on.
• 42:51
  Because I can remember
• 42:52
  seeing photographs of
• 42:54
  different athletes with
• 42:55
  their CrossFit Krypton
• 42:57
  underneath the name and whatever else.
• 42:59
  You really want to promote affiliates.
• 43:02
  When Reebok was doing the jerseys,
• 43:04
  Christie's behind me has
• 43:05
  CrossFit Polaris underneath her name.
• 43:08
  Yeah.
• 43:11
  The problem is half the
• 43:12
  people wouldn't have
• 43:13
  affiliates next to them
• 43:14
  because a lot of the
• 43:14
  athletes don't train at affiliates.
• 43:17
  I think that's where the problem came in.
• 43:19
  And then there was this big push to,
• 43:21
  can we put our training camp?
• 43:23
  Right.
• 43:23
  Yeah.
• 43:24
  Right.
• 43:25
  Yeah.
• 43:26
  And I think that's that position of, like,
• 43:29
  are we still CrossFit, the methodology,
• 43:33
  or are we now just sport?
• 43:34
  Yeah.
• 43:40
  Carolyn, how they got started,
• 43:42
  where they train, L1, more.
• 43:44
  That's more relevant, I think,
• 43:46
  than route would be great.
• 43:49
  Stay away from the personal games, events,
• 43:50
  and strengths and weaknesses.
• 43:52
  Yeah, I think that's fair, for sure.
• 43:56
  I want to throw a teaser out
• 43:57
  there for next week.
• 43:58
  Can we talk about my
• 44:00
  extracurricular substances supplements?
• 44:03
  I want to talk about it.
• 44:05
  Okay.
• 44:06
  Yeah.
• 44:06
  Okay.
• 44:06
  Thanks.
• 44:06
  Bye.
• 44:08
  Bye.
• 44:10
  That's definitely very nefarious leaving.
• 44:15
  And Charlie got kicked off somehow.
• 44:16
  He was trying to get back in, but I'm,
• 44:20
  Either his dog or a kid is
• 44:21
  chewed through a line, I'm guessing.
• 44:22
  Or, I mean, it could be the storm.
• 44:24
  Could be.
• 44:25
  We got a storm going on.
• 44:26
  That's why Merck was going crazy.
• 44:29
  And I do think Carolyn's correct,
• 44:31
  but I think that's where
• 44:32
  the third-party media has
• 44:33
  been doing that for a long time.
• 44:36
  And why not just share some
• 44:39
  of that information?
• 44:42
  Yeah.
• 44:43
  I need to know,
• 44:44
  because Andrew's on here real quick.
• 44:46
  Andrew,
• 44:46
  I need to know if you're going to
• 44:47
  be at the games this year.
• 44:50
  I'm not going and I need to
• 44:51
  know if you're going.
• 44:51
  I have a favor.
• 44:54
  Okay.
• 44:54
  Now you go ahead, Scott.
• 44:56
  I'm going to the games.
• 44:57
  Oh, you are.
• 44:57
  Okay.
• 44:57
  I didn't know if you had
• 44:58
  decided that or not.
• 44:59
  Yeah.
• 44:59
  I bought tickets Sunday night.
• 45:01
  Okay.
• 45:03
  Uh,
• 45:03
  because I was going to go to Metcon rush.
• 45:06
  Yeah.
• 45:06
  Uh, with thick boy,
• 45:08
  but Julie scheduled a
• 45:09
  vacation that weekend.
• 45:11
  So it was Metcon rush or divorce.
• 45:13
  I chose Metcon.
• 45:14
  I chose not divorce.
• 45:17
  Um, and.
• 45:20
  And so plane tickets from
• 45:23
  Columbus to Fort Worth are
• 45:26
  as cheap as 90 bucks round trip.
• 45:29
  And when I saw that, I was like,
• 45:31
  I can almost not afford,
• 45:33
  like that makes it affordable.
• 45:35
  Yeah.
• 45:38
  I'm trying to kick Kat out, but I can't.
• 45:41
  I don't know what it's done to me.
• 45:47
  So if you need anything there.
• 45:50
  Yeah.
• 45:50
  You know what I want?
• 45:52
  I don't remember,
• 45:52
  but you can tell me after my level three.
• 45:55
  Um, Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 45:56
  Yeah.
• 45:58
  Um, there was one other thing.
• 46:01
  So Hiller,
• 46:02
  speaking of Hiller for most of this,
• 46:05
  he did a post and then
• 46:07
  we'll do this and get out of here.
• 46:09
  Did you see Hiller's post
• 46:09
  about Northern spirit,
• 46:10
  not getting semifinal
• 46:11
  uniforms kit for Jessica
• 46:14
  Kelly collegiate collegian.
• 46:17
  Uh,
• 46:19
  If you didn't see this,
• 46:20
  what happened was she got to the venue.
• 46:23
  They said they never got her
• 46:24
  survey on her uniform or it
• 46:27
  fell through the cracks or
• 46:29
  something like that.
• 46:30
  They said that they would
• 46:32
  make it right by having
• 46:34
  some maid and get her one
• 46:37
  of all the stuff with her name on it.
• 46:40
  When she put it in the athlete survey,
• 46:43
  she was told that they no
• 46:44
  longer could do that and
• 46:46
  she wasn't going to get
• 46:47
  anything with her name on it.
• 46:49
  And that they're sorry about that.
• 46:58
  I think that's pretty shitty.
• 47:01
  Yeah.
• 47:03
  I know that they're making
• 47:05
  stuff for the Masters games
• 47:07
  and the team games.
• 47:09
  How can they not just put
• 47:10
  another set of stuff in and
• 47:14
  print a couple shirts,
• 47:16
  a couple sports bras, a couple whatever?
• 47:23
  It's, it's ridiculous.
• 47:25
  Yeah.
• 47:26
  It's pretty shady.
• 47:27
  I mean,
• 47:27
  she definitely deserves her stuff
• 47:28
  and I mean, yes, she deserves her stuff.
• 47:34
  And we talked about Sunday
• 47:35
  night how the Masters are
• 47:37
  only getting three uniforms for 12 events,
• 47:41
  usually three in a day,
• 47:42
  and they're probably going
• 47:43
  to have to go to the
• 47:43
  laundromat every single night,
• 47:46
  which is ridiculous for a
• 47:47
  CrossFit Games athlete.
• 47:50
  There's going to be a reel
• 47:51
  coming out later today on that,
• 47:55
  clipping that up from us as
• 47:57
  Jamie is one of those athletes,
• 47:59
  and she had a lot to say.
• 48:01
  I'm sure.
• 48:01
  Was that one of her riffs?
• 48:03
  That is one of her riffs.
• 48:07
  And Dex is real happy about it as well.
• 48:09
  He said Dex is super happy
• 48:12
  that we're going back to
• 48:13
  Reebok neon colors again,
• 48:15
  the worst era of CrossFit Games uniforms,
• 48:19
  which I completely disagree with.
• 48:21
  I like them.
• 48:22
  It was the one era where I
• 48:23
  could tell who the athletes were.
• 48:25
  Yeah, I loved it.
• 48:26
  I loved the orange shoe era.
• 48:28
  That was 15?
• 48:28
  Yeah.
• 48:30
  Yeah, like 13 through 17.
• 48:32
  Yeah.
• 48:37
  And they gave them so many
• 48:38
  different varieties that
• 48:39
  they could mismatch,
• 48:41
  and then you could tell who
• 48:42
  was who once you... It was great.
• 48:49
  One last teaser,
• 48:49
  and then we'll get out of here.
• 48:50
  Next week,
• 48:51
  let's talk about how this
• 48:52
  Olympic coverage is showing
• 48:54
  how CrossFit should do
• 48:57
  their streams better and how...
• 49:01
  And the reason I say that last night,
• 49:03
  an Olympic medalist,
• 49:04
  a gold medalist tripped in the 800.
• 49:06
  They didn't stay on her and
• 49:09
  the trip in the fall,
• 49:10
  even though it was the story of the race.
• 49:13
  They finished the race.
• 49:14
  Yeah.
• 49:15
  Then went to that.
• 49:18
  And it's been in swimming,
• 49:20
  it's been in track and field,
• 49:21
  it's been in a lot of stuff
• 49:22
  that I just want to talk
• 49:23
  about next week about how
• 49:25
  CrossFit can do better by
• 49:28
  looking at other events
• 49:29
  like Olympic sports and how
• 49:31
  they cover a race.
• 49:32
  Yes, I think that's very valid.
• 49:36
  So with that,
• 49:38
  thank you everybody for being here.
• 49:42
  Kenneth says,
• 49:43
  Dex is still just stuck in
• 49:44
  the Old Testament mindset
• 49:45
  of earth tones only.
• 49:47
  There you go.
• 49:49
  With that,
• 49:49
  we're going to head out of here.
• 49:51
  Thank you so much.
• 49:52
  Thank you, Thick Boy.
• 49:53
  Still love the stuff.
• 49:57
  And we'll see everybody next
• 49:58
  time on the Clydesdale Media Roundtable.
• 50:01
  Bye, guys.