Latest / 360 with Katie Woolf / NT Consumer Affairs Deputy Commissioner Rebecca Davey provides advice for victims of the Medibank cyber attack
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- 0:00Speaker 1: There is a concern I think right around the nation,
- 0:02Speaker 1: but particularly if you are a Medibank customer. So a
- 0:06Speaker 1: major cybersecurity incident occurred at Medibank Private, just weeks after
- 0:10Speaker 1: one third of Australians had their information held to ransom
- 0:14Speaker 1: in the OPTAs Starter breach. Now, as one of Australia's
- 0:18Speaker 1: biggest health insurance providers, Medibank holds information that includes intimate
- 0:22Speaker 1: medical records, making that breach well, I guess even more
- 0:27Speaker 1: serious than the Optus hack in a lot of ways.
- 0:30Speaker 1: Now joining me on the line to give us some
- 0:31Speaker 1: detail about really how we can protect ourselves and our
- 0:35Speaker 1: rights is the Northern Territories Deputy Commissioner for Consumer Affairs,
- 0:39Speaker 1: Rebecca Davy. Good morning to you, Rebecca. Let me try
- 0:44Speaker 1: that again. Good morning again, Rebecca.
- 0:48Speaker 2: Good morning Katie. How are you?
- 0:49Speaker 1: Yeah, very well, sorry, bit of a technical issue, operator error,
- 0:52Speaker 1: I think you call those ones idea No all good now, Rebecca.
- 1:00Speaker 1: How concerning is this latest situation with Medibank?
- 1:06Speaker 2: Of course, I think any incident where people's personal information
- 1:11Speaker 2: has been stolen and is now in the hands of
- 1:13Speaker 2: criminals is very concerning. I think, just off the back
- 1:18Speaker 2: of the Optus incident. This one that looks like at
- 1:23Speaker 2: the moment anyway, it's not quite as big as the
- 1:26Speaker 2: optus problem. Yeah, and hopefully a lot less people have
- 1:29Speaker 2: been affected, but it's still very concerning if you're one
- 1:32Speaker 2: of those people.
- 1:33Speaker 1: Yeah, and I would suspect that pretty concerning as well,
- 1:36Speaker 1: given the fact that it, you know, this breach does
- 1:39Speaker 1: contain health information.
- 1:42Speaker 2: That's right. You know, a person's medical information is very private,
- 1:47Speaker 2: and I think most people will be very concerned about
- 1:50Speaker 2: their medical information being in the hands of criminal Yeah,
- 1:55Speaker 2: not just you know, on top of that, your identity,
- 2:01Speaker 2: you know, detailed being stolen, which could be used for
- 2:04Speaker 2: financial crimes as well. So both those things would leave
- 2:08Speaker 2: you feeling very vulnerable.
- 2:10Speaker 1: And Rebecca, is this something that that NT Consumer Affairs
- 2:14Speaker 1: have been contacted about by territorians.
- 2:18Speaker 2: Not really, we're not the first point of call, although
- 2:22Speaker 2: we can certainly take enquiries and we can refer you
- 2:26Speaker 2: to the to the right place.
- 2:28Speaker 1: What are the options for territory instead of listening this
- 2:31Speaker 1: morning who've maybe been contacted by medibank and they're not
- 2:34Speaker 1: really sure what to do or not really sure if
- 2:37Speaker 1: their data has been breached or exactly what's going on.
- 2:42Speaker 2: Yeah, so maybe Bank released the statement last Thursday saying
- 2:47Speaker 2: that they will be contacting anyone that have been affected
- 2:51Speaker 2: by this. So hopefully if you have been you should
- 2:54Speaker 2: have been contacted by any bank. Although the investigation is ongoing,
- 2:58Speaker 2: the Australian Federal College and Hour involved, so it is
- 3:01Speaker 2: an evolving investigation and certainly if you have any concerns
- 3:07Speaker 2: at all, I would first be making contact with Medibank
- 3:11Speaker 2: and getting some information about whether any of your data
- 3:14Speaker 2: has been stolen. Some other advice we would give to
- 3:20Speaker 2: people is to think about and be very vigilant now
- 3:25Speaker 2: about any online scams, particularly those referencing Medibank Private or
- 3:31Speaker 2: any unusual emails or text messages you might get.
- 3:34Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a really good points. Do you know if
- 3:37Speaker 1: there have sort of been any reports of that kind
- 3:41Speaker 1: of thing happening as yet.
- 3:43Speaker 2: I'm not aware of any as yet, but going on
- 3:47Speaker 2: what happened with Optus, within a few days, people were
- 3:50Speaker 2: getting text messages referencing the Optus incident, and so I
- 3:57Speaker 2: would be very wary of that. Will never contact you
- 4:02Speaker 2: via text message, So if you're getting anything suspicious email,
- 4:07Speaker 2: text message, I would just ignore it. I think the
- 4:11Speaker 2: next best thing that anyone can do is hop onto
- 4:14Speaker 2: the Australian Cyber Security Center website. They have some really
- 4:19Speaker 2: good resources on there. In particular, they have one called
- 4:23Speaker 2: have You Been Hacked. It's a tool that will guide
- 4:26Speaker 2: you through a series of scenarios trying to help you
- 4:30Speaker 2: assess if you have been hacked, and it'll give you
- 4:33Speaker 2: advice about what to do next if any of those
- 4:35Speaker 2: scenarios might apply to you.
- 4:37Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's I guess it's quite frightening for a
- 4:39Speaker 1: lot of Territorians, a lot of Assies more generally, not
- 4:42Speaker 1: just in terms of Medibank, but also in terms of
- 4:45Speaker 1: what had happened with Optus. And you know, you sort
- 4:48Speaker 1: of you give your details over to certain organizations and
- 4:51Speaker 1: you never expect that you're going to wind up in
- 4:53Speaker 1: this situation.
- 4:55Speaker 2: No, not at all. I mean I myself was caught
- 4:58Speaker 2: up in the Optus one and it at leads you're
- 5:01Speaker 2: feeling very worried, and you suddenly think about all the
- 5:05Speaker 2: different ways you give your personal information out and certainly
- 5:10Speaker 2: when you do that, we often don't think about the
- 5:14Speaker 2: potential risk of that. So I probably just advise people
- 5:17Speaker 2: to to be a little bit more aware of who
- 5:20Speaker 2: you're giving your information to and if there really a
- 5:24Speaker 2: need for them to have that information as well. I
- 5:27Speaker 2: think there's mounting pressure on businesses, especially large corporations, to
- 5:31Speaker 2: do more to protect personal information as a hold, yep,
- 5:36Speaker 2: and you know, we have a right to expect that
- 5:38Speaker 2: it will be protected.
- 5:40Speaker 1: Yeah, you spot on, And you know, like we not
- 5:43Speaker 1: only sort of give our information over for various different things,
- 5:46Speaker 1: but you're so right that we expect that it's going
- 5:48Speaker 1: to be protected, and it's really concerning for people then
- 5:51Speaker 1: when that private information is yeah, is breached.
- 5:56Speaker 2: Yeah, very concerning, And I think it's something that the
- 5:59Speaker 2: federal goal and it's taken quite seriously. They recently advised
- 6:04Speaker 2: of a couple of different legislative changes that they're proposing,
- 6:10Speaker 2: you know, really as a result of what happened with
- 6:12Speaker 2: Optis and now Medibank. They're introducing a bill to increase
- 6:17Speaker 2: the maximum penalties under the Privacy Act for breaches of
- 6:21Speaker 2: serious or repeated privacy breaches. At the moment, the current
- 6:26Speaker 2: penalty is only two point two million dollars, which you
- 6:30Speaker 2: can imagine to a large corporation like OPTAs is not
- 6:34Speaker 2: much of a deterrent to be putting resources into protecting information.
- 6:37Speaker 1: Yeah, that is so very true. And Rebecca, obviously you've
- 6:41Speaker 1: touched on OPTAs, so we've also touched on manibank. Have
- 6:44Speaker 1: there been many territori ins sort of contacting you since
- 6:46Speaker 1: that last OPTUS breach? I know that you said anti
- 6:49Speaker 1: consumer affairs probably isn't the first point of call for
- 6:52Speaker 1: a lot of people. But has there been much, you know,
- 6:55Speaker 1: much of an increase in those calls coming to consumer affairs.
- 7:00Speaker 2: No, we haven't really received too many at all. I
- 7:03Speaker 2: think there's what I will say is that there has
- 7:06Speaker 2: been a lot of information put out there about what
- 7:08Speaker 2: to do in terms of contacting IT office or medibank,
- 7:13Speaker 2: hopping onto the Australian Cybersecurity Center, securing a devices, enabling
- 7:19Speaker 2: that multi factor authentication. So there's a lot of information
- 7:23Speaker 2: out there for consumers to access and by any means,
- 7:27Speaker 2: if you're a little overwhelmed with all that information out there,
- 7:30Speaker 2: it can be quite overwhelming. There's a number of agencies
- 7:34Speaker 2: that you can go to for various different things, but
- 7:36Speaker 2: if you have any questions, please call us and we
- 7:38Speaker 2: can refer you to the right to the right agency
- 7:41Speaker 2: for your situation.
- 7:42Speaker 1: Well INT Deputy Commissioner for Consumer Affairs, Rebecca Davey. We
- 7:47Speaker 1: really appreciate your time this morning. Thanks for having a
- 7:49Speaker 1: chat with us.
- 7:51Speaker 2: Not a problem. Thank you for having me Katie, thank
- 7:53Speaker 2: you