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Dusty Rhodes on with Brian Thomas this morning · Brian Thomas

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  Speaker 1: Oh at seventy five right lane blocked Chuck Ingram fifty
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  Speaker 2: The talk station.
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  Speaker 1: Hey forty six fty five koc detalk station sharing some
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  Speaker 1: Joe Strekker high comedy over the break, he said Fox nineteen.
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  Speaker 1: He was a report of waking up at five o'clock
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  Speaker 1: or earlier is harmful to your health, suggesting that maybe
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  Speaker 1: Joe and I need to make a worker's compensation claim.
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  Speaker 1: We'll think about it, Joe. Any workers comployers out there
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  Speaker 1: that want to help Joe, please feel free to give
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  Speaker 1: me a call. And the meantime, without further ado, welcome
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  Speaker 1: back to the morning show. Dusty Rhoads, former Hamilton County auditor,
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  Speaker 1: came up with a had a conversation yesterday with Senate
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  Speaker 1: candidate from the seventh district here in the state of Ohio,
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  Speaker 1: Zach Haynes, who talked about property tax relief. We certainly
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  Speaker 1: need it. Many people can't afford to pay their property taxes,
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  Speaker 1: especially when they jump thirty plus percent overnight. Dusty Rhoads,
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  Speaker 1: a lot of ideas floating around out there. I know
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  Speaker 1: the budget from the state of Ohio. The elected officials said,
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  Speaker 1: here are some property tax relief items. And our governor
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  Speaker 1: line item vetoed them. We are facing a potential ballot
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  Speaker 1: initiative which would eliminate, by way of constitutional amendment in Ohio,
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  Speaker 1: the collection of property taxes, which sounds interesting, get your
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  Speaker 1: popcorn out type of event, Dusty, But it's going to
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  Speaker 1: be really complicated if that happens. Where are we, Dusty Rhodes?
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  Speaker 1: Is there any relief out there that's possible in what
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  Speaker 1: would happen if we just got rid of it?
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  Speaker 2: Dusty? Welcome back. Happy new year, by the way.
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  Speaker 3: Happy new year, Brian. Good to be where you. It's interesting.
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  Speaker 3: The first thing I want to note is there were
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  Speaker 3: a bunch of property tax issues on the ballot in
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  Speaker 3: November in Hamilton County, and you know how many of
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  Speaker 3: them passed?
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  Speaker 2: It was all but like one. Weren't there all of them?
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  Speaker 2: All of them?
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  Speaker 1: I thought maybe okay, I thought maybe one of the
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  Speaker 1: local school levies got shot down.
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  Speaker 3: No, they all passed, okay. And so that indicates to
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  Speaker 3: me that this property tax issue is not the big
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  Speaker 3: issue we thought it was. I mean, don't you think
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  Speaker 3: there'd be an outpouring of votes against property taxes?
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  Speaker 2: Well?
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  Speaker 1: Dost he don't ask me what I think about the
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  Speaker 1: most recent elections, since only one out of four registered
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  Speaker 1: voters in the city anyway bothered to show up. I
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  Speaker 1: think that's the problem of low information voters and off
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  Speaker 1: your election, and people who just are not politically paying attention.
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  Speaker 1: And many people who like for example, apartment renters, who
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  Speaker 1: don't really think that property tax impacts them.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, they don't realize that it's built into their
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  Speaker 3: rental payment. But the problem is the twenty mil floor,
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  Speaker 3: and I think they've passed something that limits that a little.
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  Speaker 3: That's the device that the school's got to avoid the
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  Speaker 3: rollback of the taxes when values go up, every other
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  Speaker 3: tax roll back so that the police department and fire
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  Speaker 3: departments and mental health leavy and didn't get more than
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  Speaker 3: the voters approved money wise, and if that was in
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  Speaker 3: effect for the schools, Texas wouldn't have jumped that much.
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  Speaker 2: Well the other thing, Oh, go ahead, finish your thought.
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  Speaker 3: Well, Well, the thing is there is a conspiracy of
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  Speaker 3: silence in the Columbus news people to not talk about it.
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  Speaker 3: I've asked Tom saidis the guy who writes for the
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  Speaker 3: Inquirer five times? Why I didn't write about the twenty
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  Speaker 3: mil floor? And he won't answer me. I've asked the
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  Speaker 3: two reporters in Columbus for Gannette and they won't answer either.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe they don't get it.
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  Speaker 3: Well I don't. It's simple when you look at it.
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  Speaker 3: Maybe it's hard to believe though. The twenty mil floor
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  Speaker 3: and the exemption for the schools which in the district's qualified,
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  Speaker 3: and that's eight or nine here every district in Babla
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  Speaker 3: County qualified taxes went up a lot without a vote
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  Speaker 3: of the people, and that's the twenty mil floor.
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  Speaker 1: Cambit Well, Dusty Rhoades. How about I know it's been discussed.
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  Speaker 1: It's not me coming up with the concept, but how
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  Speaker 1: about an adjustment for inflation in terms of property tax
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  Speaker 1: increases as opposed to market valuation. I mean, you go
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  Speaker 1: through something like COVID where everybody and his brother is
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  Speaker 1: out buying up all the real estate. You now have
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  Speaker 1: institutional investors which have been around since we had the
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  Speaker 1: housing crash back in the mid two thousands. They're buying
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  Speaker 1: up property. They have a lot more money. Of course,
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  Speaker 1: it drives the prices of real estate supply and demands.
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  Speaker 1: Running into a problem. The additional twenty million immigrants over
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  Speaker 1: the past several years that creates a bit of a
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  Speaker 1: house and shortage. So if there's not enough houses to
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  Speaker 1: go around, the prices necesscessarily increase, and that is going
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  Speaker 1: to cause the property taxes to increase, maybe thirty percent,
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  Speaker 1: depending upon the market. But how about something that suggested
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  Speaker 1: solely on the basis of the amount of inflation. It
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  Speaker 1: would take some of the sting out of these radical fluctuations,
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  Speaker 1: wouldn't it right?
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  Speaker 3: And real estate doesn't track inflation. It jumps a lot
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  Speaker 3: and it declines a lot, and it doesn't track inflation.
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  Speaker 3: So if you take that out of the equation, that
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  Speaker 3: would be something that they could do. But I like
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  Speaker 3: the fact that the schools and the townships and everybody
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  Speaker 3: had to go to the voters every three or four
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  Speaker 3: years and ask for money and justify the request, and
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  Speaker 3: most cases had passed because they made the case. But
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  Speaker 3: now they're exempted by this twenty Mili four nonsense. And
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  Speaker 3: the legislatures tried to rein that in and I think
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  Speaker 3: that bill passed that ties it to inflation. Yeah, but
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  Speaker 3: the problem is with doing away with the property tax completely.
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  Speaker 3: These people are well meaning, but they're doomed. They're wasting
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  Speaker 3: their time. And remember in the eighties when the income
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  Speaker 3: tax went in and they put it on the ballot
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  Speaker 3: and you would do away with the income tax, and
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  Speaker 3: they lost. And the income tax is still there and
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  Speaker 3: the property tax. All they need to say against it
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  Speaker 3: is will shut down your fire department?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, nod, that's it. The ad campaign is going to
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  Speaker 1: be overwhelming. You know, your schools are going to suffer,
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  Speaker 1: the fire department, the parks are going to get shut down.
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  Speaker 2: It's yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And there's not going to be any moneyed organized effort
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  Speaker 1: to support rolling back property taxes right right, going back
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  Speaker 1: to the schools. And this comes up all the time,
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  Speaker 1: and again it came up with the other day with
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  Speaker 1: Senate candidate Zach Haynes. Twenty years ago or maybe even more,
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  Speaker 1: the Ohigh State Supreme Court ruled that the current funding
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  Speaker 1: of schools is unconstitutional, and here we are, twenty plus
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  Speaker 1: years later, we're doing it the same way. I guess
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  Speaker 1: the Supreme Court pronouncements don't matter in the state of Ohio.
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  Speaker 3: What the state isn't doing enough. And Bart West, who
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  Speaker 3: was on the Who Killed School Board, a former police
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  Speaker 3: chief in Green Township, points out that West Virginia even
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  Speaker 3: and the surrounding states are paying five thousand or more
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  Speaker 3: a student, and Ohio is paying about three thousand. So
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  Speaker 3: they're underfunding and putting the burden on the property tax payer.
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  Speaker 3: And that was caseis trick too. He did the same thing.
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  Speaker 3: He put the burden on the local governments by cutting
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  Speaker 3: the local government fund. And the state is the most
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  Speaker 3: efficient tax collector with the income tax, which is fair
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  Speaker 3: according to how much you make, and they've been whittling
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  Speaker 3: that down and throwing the burden on the governments. And
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  Speaker 3: it's the problem. Property tax problem is the result.
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  Speaker 1: Dusty Roads, if we're honor for Hamilton County. It's great
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  Speaker 1: having you on, Dusty. I hope you are doing well
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  Speaker 1: and your family's doing well. It's a pleasure to having
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  Speaker 1: you on the program. We can talk again when these
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  Speaker 1: matters come up, and I know you're always willing to
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  Speaker 1: discuss it with my listeners and me. Happy New Year
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  Speaker 1: to you, sir, Thanks for spending some time with my
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  Speaker 1: listeners with me today, Dusty.
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  Speaker 3: Happy new year to you, Brian and all the best
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  Speaker 3: in twenty twenty six.
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  Speaker 1: Hey, just fyi, we're going to be at ronz Rous
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  Speaker 1: on the West Side for the next listener lunch. Fourth
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  Speaker 1: of February. That's first Wednesday, February. I know you come
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  Speaker 1: every once in a while. I'm just extending an infin
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  Speaker 1: invitation with no pressure to show up. But it's always
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  Speaker 1: great when you show up. The Listener lunch my friend.
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  Speaker 2: I'll be there.
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  Speaker 1: Take care, Dusty Roads. That'll be uh Rods as