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- 0:00Speaker 1: Welcome to buck Eyes tomorrow morning for Thursday, September twenty sixth.
- 0:03Speaker 1: I'm your host, Tom Moore. The Michigan State game is
- 0:06Speaker 1: in two days. The game against Michigan in sixty five days.
- 0:10Speaker 1: Earlier in the week, we had Ross Fulton, one of
- 0:12Speaker 1: the x's and no's gurus of bucke huddle on talk
- 0:14Speaker 1: about the Ohio State offense that was just nothing but
- 0:17Speaker 1: a good time in the words of Poison, lots of touchdowns,
- 0:21Speaker 1: lots of stuff that had Ohio State fans smiling. Then
- 0:23Speaker 1: we're going to talk about the defense. There is no
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- 0:49Speaker 1: All right, Ross, This was a game where Ohio State
- 0:53Speaker 1: won by five touchdowns, and no one was real happy
- 0:56Speaker 1: with the defense. Afterwards, when we talked to Ryan Day
- 0:58Speaker 1: and Jim Knowles on Tuesday, everyone seemed like they were
- 1:01Speaker 1: in a little bit of a surly mood. So you said,
- 1:04Speaker 1: before we're recording, this is one of these things where
- 1:07Speaker 1: there's potentially good news potentially bad news here. Let's just
- 1:11Speaker 1: go ahead and start walking people. Let's let's use some
- 1:14Speaker 1: therapy words, thinking, feeling, I think, I feel, I know.
- 1:17Speaker 1: Let's try and get everyone through this. Let's talk about
- 1:20Speaker 1: the Ohio State defense.
- 1:22Speaker 2: Sure, well, yeah, so right. So the optimist take is
- 1:26Speaker 2: that Jim Knowles has purposely been keeping things vanilla. You know,
- 1:31Speaker 2: you want to challenge your players and situations that aren't
- 1:36Speaker 2: schematically ideal, that they are aware of these issues and
- 1:41Speaker 2: that you know they will be buttoned up going forward.
- 1:44Speaker 2: And I can give an example of why that might
- 1:46Speaker 2: be the case. I think the pessimistic take are the
- 1:51Speaker 2: things that we're going to that I'm going to point
- 1:53Speaker 2: out here are issues that we've discussed before on the
- 1:56Speaker 2: show that have troubled me. There things that we saw
- 2:00Speaker 2: against Michigan last year, against Missouri and the bowl game,
- 2:05Speaker 2: And so the pessimistic take is they either are okay
- 2:10Speaker 2: living with it, which I guess you can. You can
- 2:13Speaker 2: do that, you're gonna give You're gonna leave yourself vulnerable
- 2:16Speaker 2: to giving up these sort of you know drives when
- 2:19Speaker 2: you do that, or there's just disconnect on the staff
- 2:23Speaker 2: in terms of what needs to happen to fix some
- 2:26Speaker 2: of these issues. So, uh, you know, but I think
- 2:30Speaker 2: this to me explains what the problems were against Marshall
- 2:34Speaker 2: more than anyone else.
- 2:35Speaker 3: Marshall out of bye week.
- 2:36Speaker 2: They had a chance to scout, obviously, and they they
- 2:39Speaker 2: exploited areas that have you know, myself and others have
- 2:43Speaker 2: pointed out in the path for the High State defense.
- 2:47Speaker 1: All right, so the first two plays we're going to
- 2:49Speaker 1: be doing here, it's the offense is in a basically
- 2:52Speaker 1: the same formation two by two detached. Ohio State does
- 2:55Speaker 1: two different things. The first one we're going to talk about.
- 2:57Speaker 1: They're in cover for So let's walk us through this
- 3:00Speaker 1: first play.
- 3:01Speaker 2: Okay, So we've talked about this that Jim Noles and
- 3:04Speaker 2: our states have been increasingly using this cover four sort
- 3:08Speaker 2: of a base cover four where the corners are over
- 3:11Speaker 2: the top, the safeties are able to come downhill Marshall
- 3:15Speaker 2: really spread Ohio State out. And what Jim Noles likes
- 3:19Speaker 2: to do is he is he wants to cover people up. Right,
- 3:24Speaker 2: if you're the you know, the number two or inside
- 3:27Speaker 2: slot receivers. So marsh Ball is one on both sides here,
- 3:29Speaker 2: He's going to make sure there's there's bodies over them.
- 3:34Speaker 2: There's plus and minuses. That helps take away RPOs and reliefs.
- 3:38Speaker 3: Uh. It leaves you light in the box.
- 3:40Speaker 2: So obviously, like you know, it is not a fancy
- 3:43Speaker 2: football concept to understand that if you have two deep safeties,
- 3:47Speaker 2: you have one less body of your eleven players to
- 3:50Speaker 2: put closer to the line of scrimmage than if you
- 3:52Speaker 2: have one deep safety. And so when you play split
- 3:55Speaker 2: safety coverage like cover four like Ohio State is doing here,
- 3:58Speaker 2: and you have spread out and you want to up
- 4:00Speaker 2: both uh slot receivers, now you only have five defenders
- 4:06Speaker 2: inside the tackle box, right, and so Marshall has five
- 4:10Speaker 2: offensive linemen. They have a running back and obviously they
- 4:13Speaker 2: have a quarterback that they can run as well. So
- 4:16Speaker 2: now and there's with five even in this look, with
- 4:18Speaker 2: five offensive linemen, you have six gaps to account for.
- 4:23Speaker 2: So you have you know, c gaps on both sides
- 4:25Speaker 2: of the outside the tackles, B gaps between the guards
- 4:28Speaker 2: and tackles, and A gaps between the center and guards
- 4:30Speaker 2: on both sides.
- 4:31Speaker 3: But you only have five guys in the box.
- 4:33Speaker 2: So this gets the first issue, which is that Sunny
- 4:37Speaker 2: Styles as the will linebacker, he's walked out over the
- 4:40Speaker 2: boundary h slot receiver. He has to both play and
- 4:45Speaker 2: cover four here this flat the boundary flat, so he's
- 4:49Speaker 2: one of the three underneath defenders. But he's also responsible
- 4:52Speaker 2: for the A gap to his side between the center
- 4:55Speaker 2: and the and the guard. And I think you know,
- 4:57Speaker 2: as you can see just from a little shot, that's
- 5:01Speaker 2: quite a bit of distance to cover. And so you know,
- 5:06Speaker 2: once you run the play, what Marshall does is they canbine.
- 5:10Speaker 2: We just talked about this with our state. They combine
- 5:13Speaker 2: a hitch to Styles aside, so an RPO hitch with
- 5:20Speaker 2: the inside run. And so what Styles needs to do
- 5:22Speaker 2: is he is now what would be called put in conflict.
- 5:25Speaker 2: He has two different jobs. He needs to sit on
- 5:30Speaker 2: the hitch or he and he also needs to fill
- 5:33Speaker 2: the A gap run. And so because he's sitting on
- 5:37Speaker 2: the hitch, though it's going to be really difficult for
- 5:39Speaker 2: him to get to the a gap which we see here,
- 5:43Speaker 2: and so you know then if you go to the
- 5:45Speaker 2: behind the offensive line angle you can see the same thing.
- 5:48Speaker 2: And so you know, I diagramed out here that you know,
- 5:52Speaker 2: the each gap. Again, as I said, we've got you know,
- 5:55Speaker 2: Cody Simon, who has this as the mic linebacker, is
- 5:58Speaker 2: the one linebacker left in the box. He has the
- 6:00Speaker 2: gap to the running back side and Styles is going
- 6:03Speaker 2: to have the backside a gap. But as you can see,
- 6:06Speaker 2: like with the diagram, Styles is obviously nowhere in the
- 6:08Speaker 2: picture that gap needs to be covered. So in effect,
- 6:12Speaker 2: what happens when Marshall runs this play Cody Simon needs
- 6:15Speaker 2: to do. He basically has to tread water, and he is.
- 6:19Speaker 2: He is not literally two gapping. He doesn't have both gaps,
- 6:24Speaker 2: But in effect that's what occurs because Styles has to
- 6:26Speaker 2: play the RPO. So Simon's trying to do a sort
- 6:29Speaker 2: of high behind the nose tackle and you literally can
- 6:31Speaker 2: see him kind of popping in place. And you know,
- 6:33Speaker 2: you hear people can playing well the linebackers aren't playing downhill. Well,
- 6:36Speaker 2: there's a reason if he plays down hill and commits
- 6:38Speaker 2: to one of those gaps, the running back's just going
- 6:40Speaker 2: to cut the other way. And it's a big game,
- 6:43Speaker 2: and so I mean that happens anyways because it's really
- 6:45Speaker 2: hard to do what he's trying to do. But what
- 6:48Speaker 2: you know, there's again this is this gets to some
- 6:50Speaker 2: of my frustration, I guess, and this is sort of
- 6:53Speaker 2: a continuing thing because there are techniques to do. I
- 6:59Speaker 2: We've talked about like support playing cover four split safeties,
- 7:03Speaker 2: especially like in the modern RPO game. Like you know,
- 7:06Speaker 2: we just heard mel kiper Can playing last week that
- 7:08Speaker 2: they should outlaw split safeties at the NFL level, Like
- 7:11Speaker 2: there's a reason that this is being effective at limiting
- 7:13Speaker 2: big plays, taking away the passing game. So I conceptually
- 7:18Speaker 2: I don't want them to stop doing it, but there's
- 7:19Speaker 2: things they could do, so like little things, right, so
- 7:22Speaker 2: like if you go back to the design where you
- 7:25Speaker 2: see the behind them the front seven, so like for instance,
- 7:30Speaker 2: one thing they could do is to the side where
- 7:33Speaker 2: you want to flip your defensive tackles, so like the
- 7:36Speaker 2: side the linebacker is overhanging, you want that guy that
- 7:40Speaker 2: to be the side where the one technique is the
- 7:42Speaker 2: guy between the center and the tack guard instead of
- 7:45Speaker 2: three techniques. Why just because it's just simply one less
- 7:50Speaker 2: gap that Styles needs to come all the way over
- 7:52Speaker 2: to cover, right, So now he'd have the B gap
- 7:54Speaker 2: instead of the A gap.
- 7:55Speaker 3: So that's one thing.
- 7:57Speaker 2: Another thing you can do is, you know, the football
- 8:00Speaker 2: term for it is called have your defensive end play
- 8:02Speaker 2: a heavy technique. All that means is, like the defensive
- 8:05Speaker 2: end is to like to the style side where you're
- 8:07Speaker 2: at the overhang is and by the overhang, I just
- 8:11Speaker 2: been between the tackle and the wide the slot ride receiver,
- 8:14Speaker 2: Like he reads that that offensive lineman and so when
- 8:17Speaker 2: the offensive line that blocks to him, he basically squeezes
- 8:20Speaker 2: inside and essentially tries to take away the B gap.
- 8:24Speaker 2: And so now Styles, they're basically trading responsibilities, right, so
- 8:28Speaker 2: Jack Seyer would become responsible for the B gap Styles
- 8:31Speaker 2: now is the sea gap. The benefit that is now
- 8:32Speaker 2: he's in less conflict, right, Like he doesn't need to
- 8:35Speaker 2: get in and fill at a gap. If the ball
- 8:37Speaker 2: bounces outside, it's easier for him to then then commit
- 8:41Speaker 2: and play it by that point to.
- 8:42Speaker 3: The sea gap.
- 8:43Speaker 2: So there's these little things that you can do within
- 8:46Speaker 2: like running the same exact scheme that help. Again, it
- 8:49Speaker 2: like it doesn't help on this play.
- 8:50Speaker 3: That like J. T. Twomloo like shoots upfield.
- 8:54Speaker 2: You know, I think again like optimist pestimists, like I
- 8:58Speaker 2: think Ohio State planned for or Marshall to be very
- 9:01Speaker 2: pass heavy, Like you can see it in some of
- 9:03Speaker 2: the stuff they did, like the linebackers were sort of
- 9:05Speaker 2: taking past offs when it was like first and ten
- 9:07Speaker 2: or third and short defensive ends. Flying up field though,
- 9:11Speaker 2: is like it's not helpful here, It's just creates a
- 9:15Speaker 2: massiful and like Marshall, everything was like get the ball
- 9:17Speaker 2: out quick RPOs. So like all the more reason I
- 9:20Speaker 2: I to your point about like the Ryan Day press conference,
- 9:23Speaker 2: I personally picked up a sense of Ryan Day sending
- 9:25Speaker 2: a message that like we're here to play the game,
- 9:28Speaker 2: not try to rack up sacks, and like you got
- 9:32Speaker 2: to take what the you got to play the offense
- 9:34Speaker 2: that you're facing and that's not always going to be
- 9:36Speaker 2: a five step drop, and we need you to do
- 9:37Speaker 2: your job. That comes through on this play, but like
- 9:41Speaker 2: beyond just like individuals doing what they're supposed to do. Again,
- 9:44Speaker 2: there's all long ways saying there are techniques. They don't
- 9:47Speaker 2: need to throw the whole thing out there. Are techniques
- 9:49Speaker 2: within this that can help them, you know, be more
- 9:53Speaker 2: successful running cover four s games.
- 9:56Speaker 1: All right, So the next one, same basic offensive formation
- 9:59Speaker 1: two by two DA touched again, but this time Ohio
- 10:01Speaker 1: State's in a cover one so that's a very different look.
- 10:04Speaker 1: So how does this one work out for them?
- 10:08Speaker 2: So this is like you know, we talked about there
- 10:10Speaker 2: are different ways to deal with this, right, and so
- 10:13Speaker 2: you know we talked about when you have one high
- 10:16Speaker 2: split safety, now you can cover every all the receivers
- 10:19Speaker 2: up and put your linebacker back in the box. So
- 10:22Speaker 2: you know, this one you can see Marshall checks and
- 10:25Speaker 2: you can see Ohio State check, right. So they they
- 10:27Speaker 2: realized during the game that this is an issue and
- 10:30Speaker 2: they bump over and so Lathan Ransom picks up the
- 10:33Speaker 2: slot receiver. That lets Style slide back in the box
- 10:36Speaker 2: and now he can take his that gap, right, So
- 10:39Speaker 2: now you have six six guys in the box for
- 10:42Speaker 2: six gaps. Now, Marshall, you can see everything's in r po, right,
- 10:46Speaker 2: Like Ransom is playing from depth. So they throw the bubble.
- 10:50Speaker 2: Ohio State limits the gain, but like you've now canceled
- 10:53Speaker 2: out the run. So that's what that's what he has
- 10:54Speaker 2: to do. The problem again is you don't want an
- 10:59Speaker 2: offense to be able to dictate to you all the
- 11:01Speaker 2: time what you're doing right. You don't want it to
- 11:03Speaker 2: be like when we see these kind of spread formations,
- 11:06Speaker 2: we have to play single high cover one because then
- 11:09Speaker 2: the offense is going to exploit that. They're like, oh,
- 11:11Speaker 2: we know that we're gonna run mesh, We're gonna run
- 11:12Speaker 2: man beaters. Like you need answers within your scheme so
- 11:16Speaker 2: that the offense doesn't necessarily know. So there's like, you know,
- 11:19Speaker 2: and I'll get into this with the next clip. There's
- 11:21Speaker 2: like stuff again you can do up front, stuff you
- 11:23Speaker 2: can do in the coverages and cover four that allow
- 11:26Speaker 2: you to minimize the conflicts for the linebackers because it's
- 11:29Speaker 2: just you know, again, I have some sympathy, like when
- 11:32Speaker 2: I hear Jim Nole say like, no one played well
- 11:34Speaker 2: enough to be Player of the week in the game,
- 11:37Speaker 2: and it's like that might be true. I'm sure you know,
- 11:39Speaker 2: from a coaching perspective, you want to send a message
- 11:42Speaker 2: like no matter what I call, like I want to
- 11:43Speaker 2: see you guys dominate against the marshall. But like, on
- 11:47Speaker 2: the same hand, like he needs to take the responsibility too,
- 11:49Speaker 2: because it's really hard.
- 11:51Speaker 3: Like a sunny styles.
- 11:52Speaker 2: Any linebacker is never going to get looked good when
- 11:54Speaker 2: you're ten yards outside the tackle box and you both
- 11:57Speaker 2: need to sit on the hitch and then be able
- 11:59Speaker 2: to bill to limit a run to three yards or
- 12:01Speaker 2: less like it just that's not possible even for you.
- 12:04Speaker 2: I'll how to say, player against Marshall.
- 12:07Speaker 1: All right, So now we're going back to cover four
- 12:09Speaker 1: this time instead of two by two where there's two
- 12:11Speaker 1: receivers in each other the field. We're talking about it
- 12:12Speaker 1: trips formation. So there's three Worch receivers on one side
- 12:16Speaker 1: of the field. Walk us through this next one.
- 12:19Speaker 2: Yeah, and so okay, this is I've got now two
- 12:23Speaker 2: clips coming up, once once for the pessimists out there,
- 12:25Speaker 2: which of this is, and then the last one I'll
- 12:28Speaker 2: give you an end on a bit of optimism. Right, So,
- 12:31Speaker 2: and I say this is for the pessimists because again
- 12:33Speaker 2: this is an issue like if you go back to
- 12:35Speaker 2: the Afron game, I think I highlighted the same thing
- 12:39Speaker 2: right with trips and how they Acron exploited it to
- 12:43Speaker 2: the boundary and so again same issue, but with trips
- 12:47Speaker 2: you're going to get the and now it's the mic
- 12:49Speaker 2: walked out instead of the will linebacker right, and so
- 12:53Speaker 2: we have the same issue like Cody Simon has to
- 12:55Speaker 2: split the difference. It's called you know, sometimes the term
- 12:58Speaker 2: apex is used between the tackle and the inside trips receiver.
- 13:03Speaker 2: And now again he needs to suppost sit on the
- 13:06Speaker 2: RPO because he has responsibility in that alley and cover four.
- 13:11Speaker 2: But he also has to now fill that place I
- 13:12Speaker 2: be gap that I highlighted, and so again you're just
- 13:15Speaker 2: in the same six on five situation.
- 13:17Speaker 3: I think, what what I highlighted.
- 13:19Speaker 2: About this situation that makes it even potentially works for
- 13:23Speaker 2: our state is that the way they're defending this now
- 13:26Speaker 2: Denzel Burke is responsible.
- 13:28Speaker 3: This is it's called trips nub.
- 13:30Speaker 2: It's a fancy term football term for the fact that
- 13:33Speaker 2: when an offense put three wide receivers to the field
- 13:35Speaker 2: and they're tight end to the boundary, right, so you
- 13:37Speaker 2: now have the passing strength to the white side of the field,
- 13:39Speaker 2: you have the run strength to the boundary. State has
- 13:42Speaker 2: their corner responsible for filling an interior sea gap. And again,
- 13:47Speaker 2: like I, this happened their Missouri scored their touchdown on
- 13:50Speaker 2: the same thing where I say it had to play
- 13:53Speaker 2: had their corner trying to fill on an interior sea
- 13:55Speaker 2: gap and it was you know, it's a tough ask
- 13:59Speaker 2: for any corner. So again, like these are sort of
- 14:04Speaker 2: concerning things, I think because they're just keeping their cover
- 14:07Speaker 2: four so basic, like a concept we've talked about, Like
- 14:10Speaker 2: we talked about what they could do in tier wise right.
- 14:12Speaker 3: So again, like if.
- 14:14Speaker 2: You have the three technique to Cody Simon's side right here,
- 14:19Speaker 2: you know, if you if you've changed the defensive ends
- 14:21Speaker 2: up such that or the defensive tackles excuse me, such
- 14:25Speaker 2: that they have to fill from you know, less of
- 14:28Speaker 2: a distance right, and if you keep the defensive end,
- 14:32Speaker 2: if you and you don't just need to, you could
- 14:34Speaker 2: you could pinch the defensive end. You could slant. You
- 14:36Speaker 2: saw them s done a little bit more as a
- 14:38Speaker 2: game went on. Anything that gets the defensive end playing
- 14:40Speaker 2: that b gaps of the linebacker can play the further
- 14:42Speaker 2: out gap right. But then you can also do things
- 14:44Speaker 2: in the coverage like here for instance, Like one concept
- 14:47Speaker 2: you could use is mix in a poach coverage concept.
- 14:51Speaker 2: All that means is that like the backside safety here
- 14:54Speaker 2: at Lathan Ransom and they cover four is going to
- 14:57Speaker 2: help to the opposite side on the number three wide receiver.
- 15:02Speaker 2: And so really all you're doing is you're rotating your
- 15:04Speaker 2: passing strength. You're rotating your coverage to the passing strength,
- 15:08Speaker 2: and that allows you to bump your run defense back
- 15:11Speaker 2: towards the boundary or the run strength, right, because if
- 15:13Speaker 2: you have the boundary safety coming over, now your linebackers
- 15:16Speaker 2: can play more towards the run. So again, not things
- 15:19Speaker 2: they have to do every time, it's just things that
- 15:21Speaker 2: they can mix in so that an offensive corner and
- 15:24Speaker 2: can't know, hey, i can get trips nub here and
- 15:26Speaker 2: I'm going to get to I'm going to get to
- 15:28Speaker 2: lead on Denzel Burke into the boundary or a quarner.
- 15:31Speaker 3: So again, these are issues.
- 15:33Speaker 2: That's why I say, like you'd say, even a vanilla,
- 15:35Speaker 2: they're challenging them, but they do keep popping up. So
- 15:39Speaker 2: I do think it's a systemic issue that should be addressed.
- 15:44Speaker 1: All right, So there you go, so the concern to
- 15:46Speaker 1: people there, you got your time. Now we're going to
- 15:48Speaker 1: get some equal time for the people who are maybe
- 15:51Speaker 1: a little bit more optimistic about things. Last one is
- 15:54Speaker 1: a three deep, three under zone blitz walk us through
- 15:56Speaker 1: this last one.
- 15:58Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly.
- 15:59Speaker 2: So suddenly after a game and a half or a
- 16:03Speaker 2: half and let's say almost three quarters of this, on
- 16:07Speaker 2: the last drive that the most of the starters were in,
- 16:11Speaker 2: it was like a total role reversal from Jim Knowles.
- 16:14Speaker 3: So on that last drive we.
- 16:16Speaker 2: Saw multiple zone blitzes, a nickel blitz, a boundary safety blitz,
- 16:23Speaker 2: they ran some three buzz All of this is to
- 16:26Speaker 2: say like whether it was Jim Noles finally got tired
- 16:29Speaker 2: of it, Jim Knowles wanted to put stuff on film
- 16:32Speaker 2: to say like future opponents, not so fast, You're not
- 16:35Speaker 2: going to get away with it, or what.
- 16:38Speaker 3: It was just a pretty big shift.
- 16:41Speaker 2: So I guess for the optimists out there, like, no,
- 16:44Speaker 2: it's in the system that they could do it. And
- 16:47Speaker 2: so like again, this is another way, right to like
- 16:50Speaker 2: mix it up on the defense. Right, so they're showing
- 16:52Speaker 2: cover four at the staffer, a split safety look. But
- 16:55Speaker 2: what they do then is essentially they rush five. Right,
- 16:58Speaker 2: So they're bringing the clientebacker arval Reese, who looks like
- 17:01Speaker 2: he's in that overhang position. He's now going to blitz
- 17:04Speaker 2: into that B gap, right, so he no longer is
- 17:06Speaker 2: in conflict.
- 17:07Speaker 3: He's coming.
- 17:07Speaker 2: So now you've got all your gaps covered right with
- 17:10Speaker 2: five guys coming up front and C. J. Hicks has
- 17:13Speaker 2: a six gap, it was still in coverage. You're now
- 17:16Speaker 2: rotating down. Caleb downs. Obviously this fools the Marshall quarterback,
- 17:21Speaker 2: so he's he thinks he sees r VL rees coming.
- 17:24Speaker 2: He thinks that overhang is now not accounting for the RPO,
- 17:27Speaker 2: so he pulls to throw and you almost have a
- 17:30Speaker 2: pick because you're rotating into it. And so again like
- 17:33Speaker 2: not saying that it's like you should do you should
- 17:35Speaker 2: zone blitz every time, but I do think that this
- 17:39Speaker 2: is another way. There's just another example of how they
- 17:42Speaker 2: can change things up. It's in the system. I'd like
- 17:45Speaker 2: to see more of it. I think, you know, you
- 17:47Speaker 2: see complaints off also about the pass rush generally. Again,
- 17:52Speaker 2: like I think it has to be tempered by the
- 17:54Speaker 2: fact that nearly everything Marshall was doing was like an RPO,
- 17:58Speaker 2: Like the ball was getting out very quickly, right, So
- 18:01Speaker 2: it's just like your opponent, as Day said, can someone
- 18:04Speaker 2: to gate your pass rush right by doing that. But
- 18:07Speaker 2: like there are ways to help your pass rush between
- 18:10Speaker 2: either like just rushing your front four or bringing like
- 18:13Speaker 2: like the one third and eighth they brought a six
- 18:14Speaker 2: man cover one blitz. There was no one in the
- 18:16Speaker 2: middle of the field, and it was a conversion. Like
- 18:18Speaker 2: we've talked about these before. I know probably have nauseum
- 18:22Speaker 2: about like using more creepers, which are just the same concept,
- 18:25Speaker 2: but a four man pressure where you're bringing a linebacker
- 18:28Speaker 2: and dropping a defensive end. You know, a zone blitz
- 18:31Speaker 2: is bringing five and running like this is a three
- 18:33Speaker 2: deep three under behind, So it's essentially like a Cover
- 18:36Speaker 2: three variant. But again, so these are ways to help
- 18:39Speaker 2: your good pass rushers too, because the offensive line, like
- 18:42Speaker 2: anything else, like if they know they can expect I'm
- 18:45Speaker 2: gonna have the defensive end coming at me every time,
- 18:47Speaker 2: it's easier to block. Whereas now if you're moving people
- 18:50Speaker 2: and they don't know where the rush is coming from,
- 18:51Speaker 2: that just makes them assists split second slower. And so
- 18:55Speaker 2: that that can help your pass rush not just get
- 18:58Speaker 2: the guy who you're blitzing to home, but to help
- 19:01Speaker 2: your regular pass rushers, like at Jack Sawyer, you know,
- 19:05Speaker 2: have a little bit more success.
- 19:08Speaker 1: Is there something that people can kind of look for
- 19:10Speaker 1: that's a simple Hey, this is a sign that they're
- 19:13Speaker 1: maybe digging a little deeper into the toolbox on Saturday.
- 19:17Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I think that's one of them.
- 19:19Speaker 2: Right, Like if you see guys coming from different angles,
- 19:21Speaker 2: I mean I think you're you know the base case,
- 19:24Speaker 2: right you're looking for is like if they're in split safeties,
- 19:28Speaker 2: you know, where are the linebackers?
- 19:30Speaker 1: Right?
- 19:30Speaker 2: Are they walked out like I showed you with a
- 19:33Speaker 2: styles or like on the two by two or signmon
- 19:36Speaker 2: on three by one. So like if you just see
- 19:39Speaker 2: them sitting out there in split safeties, then you know
- 19:41Speaker 2: it's a pretty base concept. If you see them moving around,
- 19:46Speaker 2: you know, showing pressure coming from different spots, right, like
- 19:49Speaker 2: they show two eyes safeties and they dropped on to
- 19:51Speaker 2: one or they're in one and drop back to two.
- 19:54Speaker 2: That shows that, you know, not to be creatives being
- 19:57Speaker 2: the right word, just keeping he's keeping the defense. He's
- 20:00Speaker 2: reaching more into the toolbox box to keep the offense
- 20:04Speaker 2: off balance and making things you know we talked about
- 20:06Speaker 2: like on the offensive side, like plays iterating off for
- 20:09Speaker 2: each other with Chip Kelly, right like runs, play actions,
- 20:11Speaker 2: RPOs like this is just the defensive side of that, right,
- 20:14Speaker 2: Like you show cover four, you rotate down to cover three,
- 20:17Speaker 2: you get to Cover four run Cover four, but you
- 20:20Speaker 2: slightly change up the responsibilities in it, just so the
- 20:23Speaker 2: offense doesn't know what's coming. And so you know, the
- 20:25Speaker 2: more you see guys sort of moving from where they
- 20:28Speaker 2: were statically pre snap, I think that is sort of
- 20:30Speaker 2: a key you can see live during the game.
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