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X-Men Days of Future Past: Time Travel Review! · May The Review Be With You

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Speaker 1: Oh, and welcome to May the Review be with you
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Speaker 1: with Nick No, I'm Joe, I'm Nick, And today today
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Speaker 1: we're back. We've been been gone for a little bit.
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Speaker 1: We haven't been reviewing. We've had a lot going on,
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Speaker 1: but we're taking it back and we're re engaging in
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Speaker 1: our time travel draft.
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Speaker 2: And today is Nick's pick.
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Speaker 1: On the time travel draft board, our time Travel time
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Speaker 1: Travel Graft Wow, time Travel Draft category Man, if I
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Speaker 1: could go back in time is Superhero time travel movie?
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Speaker 2: Nick? What'd you pick?
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Speaker 3: X Men Days of Future Past, one of my favorite
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Speaker 3: x Men films, and subsequently time travel films is my
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Speaker 3: pick for Superhero time travel And I already know that
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Speaker 3: I crushed this category pick.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, No, this is.
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Speaker 1: This is definitely a good one for a cap on
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Speaker 1: our last time travel draft episode which if you haven't
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Speaker 1: if you haven't watched that, or if you're not familiar,
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Speaker 1: go back into our time travel draft watch list, our
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Speaker 1: playlist to get caught up on what we've been drafting
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Speaker 1: and what movies that you know you need to get
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Speaker 1: caught up.
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Speaker 3: On our.
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Speaker 1: Last episode for Superhero time travel draft, we were talking
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Speaker 1: about my pick, which was Donnie Darko, which we had
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Speaker 1: a lot of debate on that.
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Speaker 2: I very much.
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Speaker 1: Recommend taking a listen to that and seeing who it
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Speaker 1: is that you agree with.
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Speaker 2: Here.
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Speaker 1: We were very very divisive on this, especially Nick had
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Speaker 1: some outrageous, outrageous opinions on this movie. Take a look
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Speaker 1: at that. As far as what the heck we're even
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Speaker 1: talking about the time travel draft movie list, Nick and
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Speaker 1: I went through a bunch of different time travel movies
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Speaker 1: and we fit them into our categories to make what
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Speaker 1: we thought was each individually the best time travel movie
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Speaker 1: watch list today. As I said, category superhero time travel movie. Nick,
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Speaker 1: as you said, X Men Days of Future Past one
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Speaker 1: of your favorites. Can you tell us a little bit
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Speaker 1: more about why you picked it in this particular category.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, so, of course superheroes. X Men are superheroes. Everybody
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Speaker 3: knows that, so kind of fits in the category they are,
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Speaker 3: and you know, there is also time travel in the movie,
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Speaker 3: So that's pretty bit simply why I picked this in
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Speaker 3: the category, Joe. But for those who don't know, or
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Speaker 3: who do know but want to refresher, essentially, the cool
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Speaker 3: part about this film is it brings us the old
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Speaker 3: X Men and the new x Men, if you will,
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Speaker 3: and what that really means is just the you know,
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Speaker 3: we've got our older versions of like Doctor X and Mystique, and.
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Speaker 2: I like Doctor X.
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Speaker 1: I mean he does have a doctorate, but I'm pretty
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Speaker 1: sure that's not what he goes by.
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Speaker 3: That's true professor professor, but uh.
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Speaker 1: He should he should represent you know, he should use
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Speaker 1: that title.
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Speaker 2: He is a doctor professor X.
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Speaker 3: And and Magneto, and we get Storm of course, but
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Speaker 3: then we also get you know, the Macavoy professor, we
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Speaker 3: get the Michael Festbender Magneto. Of course, we have Logan
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Speaker 3: Hugh Jackman, and so it's just it's it's really cool
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Speaker 3: how they did this film and brought like all of
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Speaker 3: the X Men actors and actresses like together in one film.
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Speaker 3: Of course, the only way to do that really is
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Speaker 3: like via time travel. And so I think the time
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Speaker 3: travel mechanism is really cool in this film. It's my
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Speaker 3: favorite kind of time travel. And we've had a couple
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Speaker 3: other films that use some sort of like consciousness time travel.
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Speaker 3: This is that like completely and so really freaking cool
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Speaker 3: my probably it's it's definitely one of my favorite like
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Speaker 3: concepts for time travel that we've talked about.
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Speaker 1: I think that's true for me too. I very much
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Speaker 1: love the idea of sending like your consciousness through time, right,
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Speaker 1: I very much will refer to this mechanism as the
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Speaker 1: Desmond Hume form of time travel. Fuhs out there, there's
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Speaker 1: always a way to relate it to loss, There's always is.
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Speaker 2: But yeah, this this movie.
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Speaker 1: Felt very much like it was born out of the
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Speaker 1: necessity to compete with Marvel and the success of The
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Speaker 1: Avengers after like they had just proven like what a
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Speaker 1: like what a success in ensemble movie can be, which
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Speaker 1: is funny given the fact that like every X Men
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Speaker 1: movie is technically an ensemble movie. But like, I don't know,
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Speaker 1: I feel like before this movie, the truthfully like only
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Speaker 1: huge and this might be a controversial opinion, the only
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Speaker 1: really great success that the X Men had as a
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Speaker 1: franchise in in cinema, I think across the board is
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Speaker 1: X two before this movie, and I'm talking about like
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Speaker 1: critics liked it, fans liked it, comic book lovers liked it,
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Speaker 1: like X two was like pretty universally loved, like X
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Speaker 1: one commercially successful. Obviously that had to be the case,
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Speaker 1: that's why there's an X two. But there were some
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Speaker 1: things about X one that like people weren't necessarily about right,
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Speaker 1: and especially like with these ensemble movies for X Men,
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Speaker 1: they tend to like there's so many people that they
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Speaker 1: wash up or they end up like watching out a
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Speaker 1: bunch of characters. Right, people don't get time to the spotlight.
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Speaker 1: Avengers kind of proved, hey, you can do one of
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Speaker 1: these and everyone can have time to the spotlight. And
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Speaker 1: it's hugely successful when you get all these superstars from
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Speaker 1: different movies together. And X Men had that, and they
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Speaker 1: took advantage. They took advantage of it right, and they
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Speaker 1: made it work. They made it work, and this really
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Speaker 1: great way with of course you and Jackman being our
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Speaker 1: bridge in between the two generations, and it's pretty cool.
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Speaker 2: I think it's my turn.
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Speaker 3: Oh I've forgot.
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Speaker 2: You can tell. I was like, he's weirdly not pushing
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Speaker 2: this right now.
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Speaker 3: Oh, I totally forgot that you have to do a
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Speaker 3: fifteen second summary.
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Speaker 2: Please explain.
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Speaker 3: Oh, I'm so excited. So anytime we review a film,
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Speaker 3: we each take turns giving a fifteen second summary of
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Speaker 3: that film, and then the other person rates the summary giver. Well,
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Speaker 3: Joe has the great honor of giving us a fifteen
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Speaker 3: second summary today, and I'm very very happy about it
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Speaker 3: because I had totally forgotten. So if it would have
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Speaker 3: been me, I would have been pissed. All right, anyway,
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Speaker 3: Joe stalling, You're stalling, Joe.
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Speaker 2: I've brought it up. I'm stalling it out of here.
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Speaker 3: Fifteen second summary of X Men Days of Future Past
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Speaker 3: three two one go.
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Speaker 1: The future of the X Men is in jeopardy by
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Speaker 1: a giant robots, and it can only be saved if
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Speaker 1: Wolverine goes to the past, talks to the past X
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Speaker 1: Men convinces Professor X and humanity to give them a chance.
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Speaker 2: Judd, fifteen seconds.
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Speaker 4: That was as good as we've ever had. I think
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Speaker 4: maybe that was my best one. That was my best
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Speaker 4: one ever. Twelve seconds. That's a record I've never done
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Speaker 4: that we might need to do. We might not till like.
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Speaker 1: That that point, it was like, I have nothing else
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Speaker 1: to say, nothing else to say.
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Speaker 2: Was actually a really straightforward movie. It is.
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Speaker 3: It is actually pretty straightforward. Yeah, A plus, that was
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Speaker 3: really good. I hate that. That was really good.
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Speaker 1: I had to get you back after you got me
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Speaker 1: back on what was it Donnie Darko? You were talking
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Speaker 1: smack about Donny Darko and then you had this great suthing.
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Speaker 2: It was like your best summary of all time.
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Speaker 3: We're getting too good at this, we might need to
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Speaker 3: lure it to ten seconds.
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Speaker 2: She's talking about this movie. This movie.
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Speaker 1: When it was first announced, I think that there was
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Speaker 1: a ton of excitement for what you were saying, Nick.
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Speaker 1: You know, we were getting the old era of X Men,
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Speaker 1: which at that time it might feel a little weird
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Speaker 1: now because like of all the multi verse shenanigans that
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Speaker 1: are happening in superhero films, but at the time it
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Speaker 1: kind of felt like we had moved on from the
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Speaker 1: Stewart era of X Men, right, right, we were embracing
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Speaker 1: like this new, younger era. So to know that we
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Speaker 1: weren't leaving them, we weren't casting them aside that these
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Speaker 1: actors would still be reprising these roles in some capacity,
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Speaker 1: like that was awesome.
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Speaker 2: That was so exciting.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, that was yeah, I mean it was awesome for sure.
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Speaker 3: Anytime that you can just bring like characters you love together,
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Speaker 3: even from different eras, right, it's just fun and so
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Speaker 3: m h that was I think it got most of
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Speaker 3: us like really immediately just excited for what this movie
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Speaker 3: could be. And the cool part is like it exceeded
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Speaker 3: my expectations when it first came out, and it's still
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Speaker 3: one of my favorite superhero movies to rewatch, like it
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Speaker 3: holds up still. I don't rewatch most of these X
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Speaker 3: Men films. I rewatch this one like every year or
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Speaker 3: every other year. I love it that much, So it's
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Speaker 3: really cool that we get to talk about it.
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Speaker 1: I think that this is probably the best opening scene
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Speaker 1: of at least at that time before Logan came out,
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Speaker 1: the best opening scene of like the X Men franchise.
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Speaker 1: I think it immediately demonstrates the threat that the Sentinels opposed,
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Speaker 1: it impos, right, and it it was just kind of
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Speaker 1: like wild watching everybody die, right, yeah, because it's not
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Speaker 1: inherently like obvious that this is going to be a race,
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Speaker 1: you know, very very soon. Right, And even though it's
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Speaker 1: a raised I think that the threat still lingers because
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Speaker 1: at this point, like all they're doing is running away, right,
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Speaker 1: It's still right, it's still high stakes. Yeah, So like
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Speaker 1: the Sentinels immediately feel like this like horrible threat, right,
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Speaker 1: And I think the movie does a great job in
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Speaker 1: demonstrating that it is. It is the best use of
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Speaker 1: an opening scene. I think up to this point in
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Speaker 1: like the X Men timeline.
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Speaker 3: We can kind of get into the time travel if
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Speaker 3: you want here. But Professor X has this crazy idea
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Speaker 3: of sending himself back all the way to the nineteen
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Speaker 3: seventy three before the Sentinel program was launched to stop
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Speaker 3: them from being created, so that all of this gets
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Speaker 3: undone shadowcat Kitty says, you know, it's just like we
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Speaker 3: can only send you back a few minutes because your mind,
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Speaker 3: like even Professor X's mind, with how powerful it is,
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Speaker 3: like we'll be ripped to shreds if we send him
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Speaker 3: back too far. And so like right away, we're already
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Speaker 3: getting like explanation for like this consciousness time travel, right,
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Speaker 3: and like how far back can it work without being
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Speaker 3: like completely ripped apart? And then of course the only
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Speaker 3: person in the room capable of putting himself back together
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Speaker 3: as fast as he is ripped apart is Logan. And
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Speaker 3: the cool part is it also works for his mind, right,
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Speaker 3: It's not just his body that we're finding out can
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Speaker 3: also be like healed immediately. It's like his brain, his mind,
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Speaker 3: his consciousness is like all encompassing in this like quick healing.
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Speaker 3: We're sending Logan we're sending future Logan's mind back to
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Speaker 3: nineteen seventy three into his nineteen seventy three form, which
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Speaker 3: is so cool.
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Speaker 1: I do like why we're using Hugh Jackman's Wolverine for this.
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Speaker 1: I think it makes I think from the movie's standpoint,
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Speaker 1: from its perspective, it makes perfect sense.
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Speaker 2: Right.
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Speaker 1: It was neat that we got Bishop in the beginning
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Speaker 1: going time traveling, because like, typically, like he is our
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Speaker 1: X Men time traveler, right, and I thought they came
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Speaker 1: up with a really good reason as to why it's
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Speaker 1: not going to be Bishop, right, So yeah, I really
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Speaker 1: enjoyed that getting into the seventies. You know, it's a
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Speaker 1: pleasure honestly, Like, I love Stewart as Professor X but like,
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Speaker 1: I don't know, there's something about James McAvoy that, like,
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Speaker 1: I really appreciate. That's a lot more fun as acts. So, like,
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Speaker 1: it's it's great seeing him. Magneto always a showstopper.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, and we get Peter Danklich too, is playing that
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Speaker 3: the main.
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Speaker 1: All right, So this is actually one of my problems
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Speaker 1: with the movie.
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Speaker 2: All Right.
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Speaker 1: So I love Peter Dinglish, right, I really do. I
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Speaker 1: don't think he was cast well for this movie.
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Speaker 2: Really. Yeah, I think it's a bad cast.
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Speaker 1: And it's not that like I think that he's necessarily
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Speaker 1: doing a bad job. It just doesn't feel like he's
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Speaker 1: putting forth a lot of effort into the character.
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Speaker 2: And I don't necessarily think that that's his fault.
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Speaker 1: I think Brian Singer was just like, you're a scientist,
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Speaker 1: so you have to be cold about everything, So be
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Speaker 1: cold about everything. It's like, dude, let him act. He's
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Speaker 1: a really good actor, Like everybody else gets to have
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Speaker 1: like these big performances where like they're they're really like
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Speaker 1: selling it, and like, you know, if if you're a
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Speaker 1: muted character, like you can still have a big impact
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Speaker 1: on an audience. But like, honestly, like I don't think
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Speaker 1: he does.
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Speaker 2: Like you could.
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Speaker 1: You could switch out Peter Dinklage honestly for any other actor,
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Speaker 1: and I think it'd be like the same performance, you know.
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Speaker 1: And this is why I think it's that director. I'm
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Speaker 1: not gonna say his name.
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Speaker 2: That director's fault, I.
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Speaker 3: Refuse Joe doesn't like the director of this film. We're
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Speaker 3: not gonna say his name anyway.
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Speaker 1: Record I'm not alone in this, but yeah, he's he's
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Speaker 1: a source of a lot of a lot of emotions anyway. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: so I don't think Peter Dingklish is a good cast
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Speaker 1: for this. I think the only reason why he was
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Speaker 1: is Peter d. English was like super hot in entertainment
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Speaker 1: at the time. And for the record, he should still.
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Speaker 2: Be Peter d.
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Speaker 1: English rules. We love Peter Dingklish. He deserves everything. But yeah,
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Speaker 1: I think that's the only thing.
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Speaker 2: It was. He was just another name to add.
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Speaker 1: To the bill to get butts in seats. So just
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Speaker 1: just talking about things that we love in the movie.
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Speaker 1: I mean, we have to talk about how this was
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Speaker 1: the movie that started the epics slow motion speedster scenes
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Speaker 1: that would send a thousand other slow motion speedster scenes
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Speaker 1: into cinema.
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Speaker 2: This was the one.
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Speaker 1: This was the greatest like spencer scene in all movies ever.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, this is as good as it gets. We've got
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Speaker 3: Peter Maximo, we get Peter Maximov, we get the awesome
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Speaker 3: breaking Magneto out of.
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Speaker 2: Sorry that was I was like, why does that sound wrong?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, Maximov phro phro Maximov scene where he helps break
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Speaker 3: Magneto out, which and we also get the question mark
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Speaker 3: of is Magneto his father? Which is weird. But anyway, uh.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I love that they like hint at that about it,
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Speaker 1: dangle it, and then like throw it away.
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Speaker 3: It's like, all right, that's a weird thing that you
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Speaker 3: even like mess with.
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Speaker 1: But he's also holding like his baby sister Wanda, which
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Speaker 1: like for some reason, they're not twins. He's just just
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Speaker 1: baby sister Wanda.
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Speaker 3: Like. But we get the maxim ops and they we
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Speaker 3: get this awesome breaking magnetu out of the Pentagon team,
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Speaker 3: which is still one of the coolest fucking see in
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Speaker 3: all of Marvel. Uh. And then of course the slow
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Speaker 3: motion stopping bullets time and a bottle scene incredible, top
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Speaker 3: one of the top scene. I mean, if we did
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Speaker 3: a top fifteen scenes in all of like Marvel, including
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Speaker 3: the Sony stuff, like this would have to be it,
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Speaker 3: like in the top fifteen, right.
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Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, this is like without a doubt, like I
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Speaker 1: think this is the funnest scene in all of X Men,
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Speaker 1: like the entire ranch scene.
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Speaker 3: It probably is. Yeah, it's really cool and one of
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Speaker 3: the reasons why this movie is so rewatchable because it
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Speaker 3: has some really fun scenes and really cool scenes that
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Speaker 3: you're wrong just like watch again. So that's one of them.
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Speaker 1: I have one last thing I need to bring up. Okay,
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Speaker 1: it's very important.
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Speaker 3: It probably isn't.
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Speaker 1: I mean, you're right, but like, also, like this movie,
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Speaker 1: we just decided, oh yeah, Magneto killed JFK, which is
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Speaker 1: wild or no, no, sorry sorry, yeah, he actually didn't.
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Speaker 1: He tried to save him, right, But at first that's
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Speaker 1: how we're introduced to it, and I would I totally
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Speaker 1: forgot about the aspect of the movie and.
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Speaker 2: I went nuts when I got brought up.
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Speaker 1: I was like, oh my god, I forgot that's where
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Speaker 1: we were going with this dude.
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Speaker 3: That's one of the funniest scenes when they're in the
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Speaker 3: elevator after Pho gets him out, and then pH is
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Speaker 3: just like, what did you do? Man? What'd you do?
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Speaker 3: And and he goes and man, he was like, I
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Speaker 3: killed JFK. And Phro just like turns around into the
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Speaker 3: corner with the security guard taped up to the elevator
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Speaker 3: and he just like yikes, Like damn, that's metal as hell.
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Speaker 3: Such a funny scene.
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Speaker 2: What else? Time travel?
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Speaker 3: Time travel? Thank you?
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Speaker 2: Time travel? Either none of it makes sense or all
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Speaker 2: of it does.
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Speaker 3: I think all of it does.
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Speaker 1: In this case, I think it does. Yeah, I think Okay,
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Speaker 1: So as you said, our method of time travel is
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Speaker 1: we're sending in consciousness back through time. We have the
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Speaker 1: perfect conduit, Hugh Jackman, a body that a body and
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Speaker 1: mind that heals h and stays pretty static throughout the decades.
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Speaker 2: Right, So that's great perfect.
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Speaker 1: I think, at least for like the kind of time
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Speaker 1: travel that they're like talking about here. I don't know
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Speaker 1: what else to call it except like remove a domino
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Speaker 1: time travel, right, like you remove the domino or a Jenga.
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Speaker 2: Let's call it a jingle block. You remove a jingle block.
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Speaker 1: It changes everything, right, and well, that feels very back
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Speaker 1: to the future. I think for this for the sake
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Speaker 1: of this movie, I think it works right that they
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Speaker 1: kept it very simple. It's like change one thing in
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Speaker 1: the past, it's gonna change the future. And like they
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Speaker 1: were very clear about that. Cool love that.
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Speaker 2: I think that that totally works for this movie.
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Speaker 1: Yep. I have one very nitpicky thing about this movie,
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Speaker 1: and it's time travel that it bothered me when I
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Speaker 1: saw it for the first time.
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Speaker 2: It bothers me.
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Speaker 1: Now, when did Kitty get this power? Like this comes
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Speaker 1: out of nowhere and like the movie's like, don't worry
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Speaker 1: about it. It's a time travel movie, nerds, Okay, just
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Speaker 1: get on board.
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Speaker 3: Or get out, Like I didn't even consider that. That's
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Speaker 3: not even crossed my mind. And you know what, I
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Speaker 3: don't care.
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Speaker 2: I do not care that does not cross your mind.
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Speaker 1: This is the girl who phases through walls and like
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Speaker 1: I don't know where she's like, I can send consciousness
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Speaker 1: back through time, like.
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Speaker 2: Can we can we take a step back? When? Why? How?
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Speaker 2: Like just give me.
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Speaker 1: Something, like I can you know, phasing through space isn't
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Speaker 1: so dissimilar from phasing through time, like just a quick
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Speaker 1: sentence like that.
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Speaker 2: Just something.
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Speaker 3: I have nothing to say to you. I don't know.
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Speaker 2: It's a point.
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Speaker 3: It's a great it is a decent it's honestly, it's
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Speaker 3: a great point. I don't know. I didn't I didn't
19:03
Speaker 3: really know Kitty's character too well anyway, so I had
19:05
Speaker 3: no clue what her powers really were, Like I knew
19:07
Speaker 3: the phasing through walls saying, but like, I don't know,
19:10
Speaker 3: she's not one of those X men that like I
19:11
Speaker 3: knew know much about. So I just like when she
19:14
Speaker 3: had that power, I was like, okay, cool, she has
19:16
Speaker 3: that power too, Like I have no idea, like.
19:18
Speaker 1: We from what you're saying, this is actually this is
19:23
Speaker 1: crazy what you're saying, Like not what you're saying specifically,
19:25
Speaker 1: but like the movie's logic here, because you're hitting on
19:28
Speaker 1: something so like the the three original X Men movies,
19:33
Speaker 1: like I said was saying before, there's so many characters
19:35
Speaker 1: that you don't have a lot of time to spend
19:36
Speaker 1: with them, right, and like usually that's not a good thing, right,
19:40
Speaker 1: people get washed out, right, But it actually sounds like
19:43
Speaker 1: they took advantage of the fact, yeah, that they did
19:46
Speaker 1: not establish those rules for Kitty, right, and they were like, yeah,
19:48
Speaker 1: she sends people back in time, and like people who
19:51
Speaker 1: were familiar with the character and only really knew if
19:53
Speaker 1: they're the movies, they're like.
19:54
Speaker 3: Yes, exactly, that's exactly what happened.
19:59
Speaker 2: It doesn't changed this movie at all.
20:01
Speaker 1: Like it totally works for the movie, right, Like I'm
20:04
Speaker 1: not taking any points off. It's just like something that
20:06
Speaker 1: I'm like, what where does this come from?
20:10
Speaker 3: Yeah? Well, I mean yeah, I mean that's a great point.
20:13
Speaker 3: But it's kind of just like, Okay, that's what we're
20:15
Speaker 3: doing now because they just establish it right at the
20:17
Speaker 3: beginning and there's no questions question marks about it, so, right, I.
20:23
Speaker 1: Will say, I think the reason why they did it is,
20:26
Speaker 1: if I remember correctly, I think it's Kitty who in
20:30
Speaker 1: the original like Days of Future Past storyline, it's Kitty
20:33
Speaker 1: who goes back in time.
20:35
Speaker 2: Like sure about that. I forget how exactly that happens.
20:40
Speaker 1: It's not because of her power, I can tell I
20:42
Speaker 1: can tell you that much, but it's yeah, it's it's Kitty.
20:47
Speaker 1: So like this was like a cool way of like
20:48
Speaker 1: keeping Kitty like involved in the Days of Future Past storyline,
20:52
Speaker 1: got without with Hugh Jackman still being the guy to
20:56
Speaker 1: go back, which like, honestly, for like, this franchise makes
20:59
Speaker 1: total sense.
21:00
Speaker 3: Jackman, Yeah, for sure, And that was really awesome, right,
21:04
Speaker 3: like having Logan go back in time and then having
21:08
Speaker 3: to meet younger Charles and Magnell, Like what a cool
21:13
Speaker 3: you just really awesome storyline, really, I mean just really cool.
21:19
Speaker 1: It also gives us like, given the fact that it's
21:21
Speaker 1: like a neurological like form of time travel, it gives
21:26
Speaker 1: a great excuse as to why the only two generation
21:30
Speaker 1: of like x ex people to like meet each other
21:33
Speaker 1: are the two Exaviers, which, like, that's such a great scene. Yeah,
21:37
Speaker 1: when old Xavier is like encouraging young Xavier.
21:41
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's sick. It's another one of those moments in
21:44
Speaker 3: the movie. We're like this is really cool, you know,
21:45
Speaker 3: like so cool and yeah, so like from time travel perspective,
21:50
Speaker 3: like time travel consciousness, we've got rules that they obey, right,
21:55
Speaker 3: like has to you know, Logan has to essentially like
22:00
Speaker 3: stay calm basically is the rule for him while sitting there,
22:03
Speaker 3: which there is a moment where he sees Striker and
22:06
Speaker 3: like gets all out of whack and is like in
22:08
Speaker 3: phasing in and out of the times, which is that's
22:11
Speaker 3: a really cool moment too, right, like everything's going well
22:15
Speaker 3: like and then of course he sees this guy who's
22:17
Speaker 3: gonna bring him a lot of hurt one day, and
22:20
Speaker 3: his mind goes into like a bender. So that was
22:25
Speaker 3: that was Yeah, that was nice. That was a cool scene.
22:29
Speaker 3: But we get a couple other explanations of like like
22:32
Speaker 3: time trouble, right, and like, I guess the only real
22:34
Speaker 3: rule is like don't die before the mission's over, right,
22:37
Speaker 3: because like they have to outlive the Sentinels from killing
22:41
Speaker 3: them in the future or else. That's it. And then
22:44
Speaker 3: of course, like Logan, I mean he can't pretty much
22:47
Speaker 3: he can't die, but like he has to get far
22:50
Speaker 3: enough and convincing Charles and Magneto in the past to
22:55
Speaker 3: complete the mission so that if anything happens to him
22:59
Speaker 3: in the past, it still happens in the future, which
23:02
Speaker 3: like that is the case, right, Like towards the end
23:04
Speaker 3: of the film, Magneto like puts him all these like
23:08
Speaker 3: crowbars through him and then throws him into the lake
23:10
Speaker 3: and he just sinks to the bottom. But like at
23:12
Speaker 3: that time, like the mission isn't complete yet, but like
23:16
Speaker 3: Logan had done enough too, and for Charles to like
23:20
Speaker 3: figure out how to make Mistique make the right choice.
23:25
Speaker 1: I think it's time travel really sticks the landing, and
23:29
Speaker 1: it is so great to see like that happy ending
23:32
Speaker 1: of like them in the X Mansion and like you know,
23:35
Speaker 1: it's it's become a refuge of like happiness and education
23:40
Speaker 1: and self betterment and acceptance, right, Like that's it's so
23:42
Speaker 1: great and that that scene. I mean, there's so many
23:46
Speaker 1: wonderful character scenes in this movie, and I think one
23:50
Speaker 1: of the best, and I know this is one of
23:52
Speaker 1: your favorites, is Hugh Jackman. I don't know why keep
23:56
Speaker 1: saying that Logan coming coming into the man and learning
24:01
Speaker 1: about all the differences that have happened, and then telling
24:06
Speaker 1: Professor Xavier like I'm going to need some catching up
24:09
Speaker 1: on history, and Professor x actually understanding this is the
24:12
Speaker 1: Logan that I talked to in nineteen seventy three.
24:14
Speaker 3: Right, He's just like welcome back. You know. It's just
24:17
Speaker 3: like the Patrick Stewart's such a good actor, you know,
24:21
Speaker 3: like he's like, well, or Logan's just like, well, Professor
24:26
Speaker 3: History is a little bit fuzzy, you know, I just
24:28
Speaker 3: got back from nineteen seventy three or whatever he says,
24:30
Speaker 3: And uh, the look on Patrick Stewart's face in that
24:35
Speaker 3: moment is just like so awesome. He's just like welcome back.
24:38
Speaker 2: You know.
24:39
Speaker 3: Like any time I see that, I'm like, Okay, well,
24:40
Speaker 3: I want to watch the whole movie again because like
24:42
Speaker 3: getting to that moment of realization that like Logan succeeded.
24:46
Speaker 2: Is like so cool.
24:48
Speaker 3: But it brings up a lot of questions. So my
24:53
Speaker 3: biggest question is like what's the X Men timeline? Because
24:59
Speaker 3: Logan gets into the lake and Striker is the guy
25:02
Speaker 3: who fishes him out, and then this is essentially how
25:04
Speaker 3: Logan gets to Striker's lab and gets the animantium put
25:09
Speaker 3: inside of him and all this stuff, right, but that's
25:14
Speaker 3: not always what the case was, right, This is how
25:18
Speaker 3: this movie explains how Logan still gets this part of
25:21
Speaker 3: him done right. But prior to this film, it was
25:25
Speaker 3: a different way that Logan had been captured essentially and
25:30
Speaker 3: given this animantium. So then my other question is does
25:36
Speaker 3: this film negate any other X Men films? Like did
25:41
Speaker 3: did I forget if Dark Phoenix came out before or
25:44
Speaker 3: after this film?
25:45
Speaker 1: And yeah, Dark Phoenix comes out after this film, so
25:47
Speaker 1: I think you can I guess, yeah, you can say
25:50
Speaker 1: X three never happened because Jean's alive and so Scott,
25:53
Speaker 1: So I guess X two didn't happen.
25:54
Speaker 3: Either, right, which is weird, right, it is.
26:01
Speaker 2: It's weird.
26:01
Speaker 3: So it just it brings up a lot of questions.
26:03
Speaker 3: But mainly the striker thing with how Logan is like
26:07
Speaker 3: captured is like a big question for me. I guess,
26:10
Speaker 3: like the whole timeline, but they made it make sense.
26:16
Speaker 1: Ish, so yeah, I mean all right, So, like here's
26:23
Speaker 1: the thing, like these movies are not that Jesus, they
26:26
Speaker 1: don't care about consistency. I will actually applaud them for
26:31
Speaker 1: giving a reason for future movies with Wolverine for him
26:37
Speaker 1: to continue having adamantium in his skeleton. Like this movie
26:40
Speaker 1: actually took that into consideration and was like, hey, we're
26:44
Speaker 1: still gonna want to sell toys of this man with
26:46
Speaker 1: metal claws, so like that still needs to happen.
26:49
Speaker 2: We need to establish that it happened.
26:50
Speaker 1: They, like, you know, of all the inconsistencies, at least
26:54
Speaker 1: they thought that one through.
26:55
Speaker 3: Yeah, they still figured out how to how to get
26:58
Speaker 3: Striker in him in the same.
27:00
Speaker 1: Yeah, because like Striker really doesn't serve like a huge
27:02
Speaker 1: purpose in the movie until like that moment, and like
27:06
Speaker 1: I assume that's why they they had him around, right,
27:09
Speaker 1: They were just like, well, we're gonna make sure Like well,
27:12
Speaker 1: I guess I shouldn't say that. You brought up a
27:13
Speaker 1: great point about like the mental anguish that Logan experiences
27:16
Speaker 1: when you see Striker, and that that is kind of
27:18
Speaker 1: an important character moment.
27:19
Speaker 3: Yeah, he played a role for sure, and then of
27:21
Speaker 3: course like keeping the cannonness of like Logan having to
27:25
Speaker 3: go through all this like these trials of like getting
27:27
Speaker 3: animantium put in them. So like it's cool that they
27:30
Speaker 3: took the time to like establish that knowing that changing
27:35
Speaker 3: the whole future, you know. But that's what's also cool
27:38
Speaker 3: is that the Sentinel thing, Like that's the track that
27:42
Speaker 3: the X Men were on the whole time until this movie, basically, right,
27:48
Speaker 3: Like yeah, so if they never did this movie, eventually
27:51
Speaker 3: we would have gotten to the Sentinel future and the
27:53
Speaker 3: x Men storyline, right is essentially what the movie is
27:57
Speaker 3: establishing anyway.
28:00
Speaker 1: Okay, so first off, kicking off our scores, we're gonna
28:05
Speaker 1: talking about how well this movie functioned just as a movie.
28:09
Speaker 3: Honestly, I love this film. This is a four point
28:11
Speaker 3: eight for me, Like sorry you said, yeah out of five,
28:14
Speaker 3: four point eight out of five. So this is like
28:17
Speaker 3: probably my favorite X Men film, maybe besides Logan, but
28:20
Speaker 3: like if we're talking about like An, like Logan's really
28:24
Speaker 3: more of a it's almost like a standalone it's really
28:27
Speaker 3: just about Logan, like as a X Men film with
28:31
Speaker 3: multiple characters, like goes like, this is my favorite one
28:35
Speaker 3: and I love the time for Olt blow it. I
28:38
Speaker 3: watched this movie so many times that it's probably a
28:40
Speaker 3: high score for a lot of other people, but for me,
28:42
Speaker 3: it's like right on par Like this is a four
28:44
Speaker 3: point eight. I'm not giving it a five, just because
28:47
Speaker 3: it feels weird to give movies like a perfect perfect score,
28:50
Speaker 3: like and there's obviously a couple of things that like
28:51
Speaker 3: don't make a ton of sense, but four point eight.
28:54
Speaker 1: I'm not far behind you. I'm a four or five.
28:57
Speaker 1: I think it is one of the stronger X Men
28:59
Speaker 1: entries in the entire franchise. There's very little I have
29:02
Speaker 1: to complain about this Sands like Peter Dinklage and like
29:06
Speaker 1: maybe just like a few like things here and there,
29:08
Speaker 1: like we were talking about like the mystique thing. But yeah, overall, yeah,
29:12
Speaker 1: this movie is super fun. It's probably the funnest I
29:14
Speaker 1: think X Men movie. Yeah that's out there, especially like
29:18
Speaker 1: if you were a fan of the original trilogy. Yeah,
29:21
Speaker 1: this movie is super fun. Oh yeah, yeah, four or five. Okay,
29:26
Speaker 1: time travel.
29:27
Speaker 3: This fits fantastically in Like this, The time travel is
29:34
Speaker 3: really awesome. I love this kind of time travel, the
29:37
Speaker 3: conscience of time travel, I was saying earlier, like that
29:40
Speaker 3: form of time travel is like my favorite. This is
29:42
Speaker 3: also I'm giving this a four point eight as well. Nice,
29:49
Speaker 3: I have like no issues at all with the time
29:53
Speaker 3: travel here, Like I think it's it's damn near perfect.
29:55
Speaker 3: The way that it's explained, and also like I think
30:00
Speaker 3: it's great.
30:01
Speaker 1: I think for the for the logic of the movie,
30:05
Speaker 1: I think it follows all of its own logic. I
30:08
Speaker 1: think the mechanism is super simple and very easy to follow,
30:12
Speaker 1: even for like a casual like science fiction fan.
30:14
Speaker 2: Right the.
30:19
Speaker 1: I wouldn't even call this a gripe. The only thing
30:21
Speaker 1: that like, it's not even like necessarily illogical. It's it's
30:24
Speaker 1: like the kind of thing I like, if you think
30:25
Speaker 1: too much about it doesn't really make sense. It's just
30:28
Speaker 1: the the conflict of like the past, like we're watching
30:33
Speaker 1: that play out at the same time of the conflict
30:35
Speaker 1: of the future. And like you would think, like just
30:37
Speaker 1: by like necessity of like sending like someone to the past,
30:41
Speaker 1: like the domino would fall pretty fast, right right, It's
30:44
Speaker 1: like we did the action and like we would feel
30:46
Speaker 1: the effects like pretty quickly, but like we see like
30:50
Speaker 1: both conflicts playing out at like the same time. I'm
30:53
Speaker 1: just gonna put that up to like that's movie logic, right,
30:56
Speaker 1: It's just for the sake of like a good story, right.
30:58
Speaker 2: It's fun.
30:58
Speaker 1: It's more fun that way for sure, So I'm only
31:02
Speaker 1: gonna take a little bit off Four to nine. I think, like, honestly,
31:04
Speaker 1: like the time travel in this movie is great, it's fantastic,
31:08
Speaker 1: and that leads us to and then oh god, this hurts.
31:12
Speaker 1: That leads us to our category superhero time travel movie.
31:15
Speaker 1: It's a five for me, it's a five, like it
31:17
Speaker 1: fits the category perfect.
31:19
Speaker 3: Ye five for me as well. Yeah, this is like, yeah,
31:23
Speaker 3: I mean, this was a great pick on my part
31:26
Speaker 3: for the Time Telegraph. This might be the closest perfect
31:28
Speaker 3: score of all the movies we've done so far, with
31:30
Speaker 3: how high our ratings are for all of them.
31:33
Speaker 1: Yeah, like honestly, yeah, like across the board, Like, I
31:36
Speaker 1: think the only other time travel movie that scored perhaps
31:41
Speaker 1: higher on our list was Harry Potter and the Prisoner
31:43
Speaker 1: of Azkaban.
31:44
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, that's good point.
31:45
Speaker 2: Yeah, but we might not have scored higher.
31:48
Speaker 3: I think this scored higher just because we did that
31:50
Speaker 3: one a little early and we were probably giving ourselves
31:53
Speaker 3: some room.
31:55
Speaker 1: But yeah, that film, we've gone pretty we've gone pretty
31:57
Speaker 1: low since then.
31:58
Speaker 3: Yeah, there was a couple of real moment so some
32:01
Speaker 3: time travel films there, but they're mostly mine. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
32:06
Speaker 3: this one, Yeah, this is probably the highest one we've
32:08
Speaker 3: scored so far all the way through. So I.
32:12
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I think what is next on our time
32:16
Speaker 1: travel list?
32:17
Speaker 3: Though?
32:17
Speaker 1: Nick is I think next on the list is secret
32:23
Speaker 1: time travel movie, which I think we've both been really
32:26
Speaker 1: looking forward to this particular category.
32:29
Speaker 3: And your pick was a rival and my pick was Interstellar.
32:35
Speaker 1: Oh oh man, oh god, awesome space sci fi movies.
32:40
Speaker 2: Oh man, this is gonna be great.
32:41
Speaker 3: This is gonna be.
32:43
Speaker 1: Two bangers back to back. Oh no, I have to
32:45
Speaker 1: watch it Interstellar. This is I love Interstellar, but I
32:49
Speaker 1: haven't watched it since theaters because I've been afraid to.
32:51
Speaker 3: Yeah, this is gonna be tough for you. Man. I've
32:53
Speaker 3: seen both of these movies so many times since they
32:55
Speaker 3: came out, but you have not seen Interstellar for a
32:58
Speaker 3: second time. That's honestly gonna help, probably because like it's
33:02
Speaker 3: almost gonna be like watching it for the first time
33:04
Speaker 3: for you because it's been so long.
33:06
Speaker 2: This is gonna hurt.
33:08
Speaker 3: We've only got four movies left in our time Trouble draft.
33:10
Speaker 2: That's crazy. Oh my god.
33:12
Speaker 1: Yeah, this has been a whole year experience Nick and
33:14
Speaker 1: I have been doing. I greatly recommend if you enjoyed
33:18
Speaker 1: this going back and listening to the original draft in
33:22
Speaker 1: which we actually put all of this together absolutely and
33:26
Speaker 1: then going through our our logic of a like whether
33:31
Speaker 1: or not the movie perform well, but you know, b
33:34
Speaker 1: whether or not the mechanics for time travel like made
33:37
Speaker 1: sense within the context of the movie. It's It's been
33:40
Speaker 1: a super fun exercise to do with you, Nick, and
33:43
Speaker 1: we've got some bangers for the last four I'm.
33:45
Speaker 3: Very excited, stoked, super stoked. So I think what we'll
33:48
Speaker 3: do is Arrival next, then Interstellar, and then we've got
33:51
Speaker 3: our pick the unpicked category, which was just us giving
33:55
Speaker 3: us ourselves, like if we can go back in time
33:57
Speaker 3: and pick another one, and your choice was Safety Not
34:00
Speaker 3: Guaranteed and mine was tomorrow Land with George Clooney.
34:04
Speaker 1: So I think what's fun about those two movies is
34:10
Speaker 1: for each other's movies. I don't think we've seen them,
34:12
Speaker 1: like you've not seen Safety Not Guaranteed and I've not
34:14
Speaker 1: seen tomorrow Land, correct.
34:16
Speaker 3: So it'll be really cool to kind of go through that. Yeah,
34:18
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34:29
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34:33
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