Latest / The Uncensored Catholic / Show 89: Divine Revelation
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- 0:51A. Hey, y'all, welcome to today's show. Hope you're having a
- 1:02wonderful Monday and getting ready for Thanksgiving. I am like a huge Thanksgiving fan.
- 1:10I have spent all day. I got up early this morning outside smoking
- 1:15a turkey over cherry and birch wood scraps from my wood carvings, And I
- 1:22tell you it's one of my favorite things to do, just sitting by a
- 1:25barbecue pit chatting with people. Real nice guy came over. I'm done at
- 1:30my mother's house right now, and you know, having recently injured my knee,
- 1:34I think I mentioned that I fell a full ladder well couldn't get on
- 1:37the roof to blow it off the way I normally do. NFLA came by
- 1:41and said he was a painter kind of out of work this time a year,
- 1:44and could he do it, and you know, she was thrilled to
- 1:48let him do it. I was a little you know, I like to
- 1:49do things myself, and I knew I couldn't get up there with my knee
- 1:53the way it is. And you know, afterwards, he didn't want to
- 1:57take any payment. He said, this time of year, I just go
- 2:00around and try to do things for people. And I was so nice Protestant
- 2:05guy, you know, probably a little rough background, covered in tattoos.
- 2:10And we chatted for a while and I ended up giving him one of my
- 2:15spoons, actually, and my mother finally convinced him to take the money.
- 2:20She said, this time of year, you know, you need money for
- 2:23your family, and you need money to buy gifts. Come back next spring
- 2:27and we'll talk about another job. So, I mean, such nice people.
- 2:30You know. I just love this time of year. I really do.
- 2:34It's you know, I've never well, I did live briefly in a
- 2:38couple of cities. Yeah, I mean it's fast as to see all the
- 2:43decorations and such in the shops. I mean, yeah, okay, parades
- 2:46and all that. It is so much nicer, in my opinion, to
- 2:51be out in rural areas where people are not rushing as much or under less
- 2:58pressure and take time to talk with each other and do things for each other.
- 3:07Good time of year. It's my favorite time of year actually. So
- 3:09let's get into the question from radio replies to a couple of these, the
- 3:15person asks, must we believe the account of the fall of man? And
- 3:20the pre's answer yes, and facts confirm it. I shall deal with this
- 3:23topic. Later, the person goes on, why did God forbid the tree
- 3:31of knowledge? Having endowed man with reason, he should have encouraged man to
- 3:38advance in knowledge? And how I would have liked to have spoken with that
- 3:43serpent? What language did it speak? The presnswer God forbade the tree which
- 3:49could lead man to the knowledge of evil. He gave man reason that he
- 3:53might know what is right and good. It is not advancing in knowledge to
- 3:58acquire erroneous and evil notions. As for the serpent, if you knew what
- 4:02language you were talking about, you would not like to have spoken to him.
- 4:08The language he spoke was the language of pride, sensuality, and rebellion.
- 4:14Another person, perhaps the same, says, is it not absurd to
- 4:16say that Methuselah could live nine hundred years? And they say no. Insects,
- 4:20animals, and men have lives of varying links. Why it is dependent
- 4:26entirely upon the will of the omnipotent God who made them? And could he
- 4:30not will nine hundred years for man just as easily as ninety? Was there
- 4:33any reason why he should not will nine hundred? Then, merely because he
- 4:38happens to will ninety now, And which is the greater wonder to make man
- 4:42or to make him live nine hundred years? Surely to make man at all,
- 4:46He who can do greater could quite easily do the lesser. The special
- 4:51reason why God should will such long lives for the patriarchs of old was that
- 4:56they might generate many children, and thus set up the human race upon its
- 5:00feet. It is necessary no longer in existence. The person that says angels
- 5:08fell in love with the daughters of men and began giants. What a legend.
- 5:12Genesis six to two says that the sons of God took wise from the
- 5:15daughters of men. These sons of God were not angels, but the descendants
- 5:19of Seth, whilst Carnal and fleshley men were the descendants of Cain. God
- 5:25was rightly angry with these mixed marriages between those who knew the true religion and
- 5:29those who had forgotten and abandoned it. As for the giants, the children
- 5:32of these unions were monsters, rather in violence and wickedness than in size,
- 5:38though they were probably big men and independent of their self sufficient strength. It's
- 5:44an interesting point confuse a lot of people. Yeah, oh, I can't
- 5:48remember what it's called in the Bible, these giants, these sons of what
- 5:55were believed by many to be angels and humans. The more traditional Catholic understanding
- 6:01is what the priest just said, that that was symbolic language, meaning the
- 6:06sons of God were the sons of Seth who were following the true religion religion,
- 6:12and the sons of Cain, where the daughters of Cain were pagans.
- 6:16We do know that there were some very big men in history, giants like
- 6:23well, how you one that live right here in North Carolina, Andre the
- 6:25Giant. It's a recessive gene tends to be fairly more obviously, probably more
- 6:30common among the French than maybe other races. Sometimes you see it in certain
- 6:36Chinese. Every now and then you see a really really tall African, but
- 6:41it's not common that common. At least, there were plenty of Scots.
- 6:47Scottish tend to be much bigger than the Irish and stature by the way,
- 6:50but this is all genetics. That said, there may well have been in
- 6:56the past very very large people. No reason to think they weren't. I
- 7:00mean, every culture has its legends of giants. How big were they?
- 7:03I don't know. I have absolutely no idea. Andre the Giant was French.
- 7:09He grew up in a circus because he was basically a circus freak.
- 7:12Okay, then he became a professional wrestler, movie star, great human being
- 7:17by the way, a phenomenal man, big heart, love kids. I
- 7:25mean remember him of the Princess Bride. I mean that was like the perfect
- 7:27role for him. He moved to Ellerby, North Carolina, where he could
- 7:30just kind of be alone, be left alone on a farm, a lot
- 7:34of acreage. He drank like a keg of beer a day. He ate
- 7:38massive amounts of food. He was huge. He was absolutely huge, and
- 7:43essentially, even though I said he had a big heart, his heart couldn't
- 7:46support that huge body. He was also a very intelligent man, very sensitive,
- 7:54very loved, absolutely beloved, and you know, kind of tragic,
- 7:59kind of a tragic figure. But anyway, let's get into Father Spirago's explanation
- 8:05of the Catechism, and we're going to talk about a very important point.
- 8:09It's divine revelation. He says, if anyone stands in a room behind a
- 8:16gauze curtain, he perceives all those who are walking past in the street,
- 8:22and they can see him not. In other words, he can look out
- 8:24and see them, but they can't look at and see him. But if
- 8:28he makes himself known by speaking, the pastors by or able to recognize him.
- 8:33Such is our revelation, our relation to God. He sees us,
- 8:37but conceals himself from our eyes. Yet He has in many ways made himself
- 8:41known to men, to Abraham, to Moses, and the burning Bush,
- 8:45to the Israelites on Mount Sinai, etc. God, in his mercy,
- 8:52God has in let's try it one more time. God has, in his
- 8:58mercy the course in the course of ages, often revealed himself to men.
- 9:05God is often communicated to men a knowledge of his perfections, his decrees,
- 9:11and his Holy will. Such revelation is called supernatural, as opposed to natural
- 9:16revelation of himself that he makes known through the external world. God's revelation a
- 9:22man is generally made in the following ways. He speaks to individuals and orders
- 9:26them to communicate to their fellow men the revelation made to them. Thus,
- 9:31God spoke to Abraham, Noah, and Moses. He sent Noah to preach
- 9:35to sinful men before the flood. He sent Moses to the Israelites when they
- 9:39were oppressed by a pharaoh. Sometimes God spoke to a number of men who
- 9:43were symbled together, as when he gave the law to the people on Mount
- 9:46Sinai, or when our Lord was baptized by Saint John and the Holy Spirit
- 9:50descended upon him like a dove, a voice being heard from heaven. This
- 9:54is my beloved son, whom I am well pleased, in whom I am
- 9:58well pleased. Sometimes God reveals himself through angels, as for instance, to
- 10:03Tobias, or through the archangel Raphael, or through the archangel Raphael. Raphael
- 10:09was the angel in the Book of Tobit. He's in the Catholic Bible.
- 10:13It's not in the Protestant Bible. If you're a Protestant reading this, you're
- 10:18just gonna have to look it up. Get a Catholic Bible. You're to
- 10:20love the Book of Tobad. It's a beautiful book. You'll learn a lot
- 10:24from it. I think the smoke from the turkey's made my throat a little
- 10:31raw, all right. When God spoke to when God spoke from a cloud
- 10:35is on Sinai. When God spoke to men, he took a visible form
- 10:39of a man, or an angel, Let me see if I can.
- 10:43Yeah, here we go. When God spoke to men, he took the
- 10:50visible form of a man or an angel, or he spoke from a cloud.
- 10:54Early church fathers, I think suggested Martyr and Saint Ironeus spoke a lot
- 11:00about the angels that appeared to Abraham. And I think again to Lot before
- 11:09the destruction of Sodom Megamara that it was actually Jesus in an angelic form,
- 11:16not necessarily an angel, but actually God in an angelic form. So anyway,
- 11:24Or he spoke from a cloud as on Sinai, or from a burning
- 11:28bush, as he did to Moses, or amid a bright light from heaven,
- 11:31as to Saint Paul, or in the whispering of the wind, as
- 11:33he did to Elias. Was Elijah? Sometimes the old way of writing the
- 11:41names confused me a little bit, or by some interior illumination, as in
- 11:46Deuteronomy two six through eight. Those to whom God revealed himself and who had
- 11:52to bear witness before others to the divine message were called messengers from God,
- 11:56and often received from him the power of working miracles and prophecy in proof of
- 12:01their divine mission. See the Miracles of Moses before Pharaoh and Elias, the
- 12:07apostles, etc. Those who were especially entrusted with the communication to men of
- 12:16the divine revelation were the following, the patriarchs, the prophets, Jesus Christ,
- 12:20Son of God, and his apostles. Revelation to mankind in general.
- 12:24What educate is in revelation is to mankind in general, what education is to
- 12:31the individual. Revelation corresponds to the need of successive stages of human development,
- 12:39to the infancy, childhood, and youth of mankind. The patriarchs, who
- 12:43had more of the nature of children, needed less in way of the precepts
- 12:48of God, and God dealt with them in more familiar fashion. Also something
- 12:52Saint iron As wrote a great deal about about how the teachings change as people
- 13:00matured over centuries. Essentially, God gave them. He compared it to milk
- 13:05for babies and solid food, you know for children. Uh. The paosy
- 13:11the people of Israel, in whom as in the season of youth, self
- 13:16will and sensuality were strong, had to be trained by strict laws and constant
- 13:22correction. That is also something oh Saint Justin Martyr Ironeiss. So many of
- 13:28them wrote about that is a really interesting teaching. You know, did the
- 13:35Old Testament have said many times is essentially the history of just how bad people
- 13:39can be, and even the chosen people had to be constantly disciplined by God.
- 13:45Uh. And they could not accept the word the prophets. They killed
- 13:48the prophets, they killed Jesus. So yeah, that's a that's a really
- 13:54interesting teaching of the of the Church and of Christian tradition. I mean,
- 14:00look, go back and read the Epistle of Barnabas if you want to,
- 14:03if you want example of how the early Christians thought of Judaism of the time.
- 14:13They were not fans. They were not fans. It's not to say
- 14:16that, you know, all Jews are bad or I'm not any Semitic in
- 14:20the least, but there is a stark difference between Judaism and Christianity. Those
- 14:26tore observant and otherwise the Christians, the Judaizers, as Saint Paul spoke with
- 14:33them, would be amazed to read well from the d dot K, the
- 14:37earliest writing of the Church, before the Bible was even written, through the
- 14:41first few hundred years, just how distinct and starkly different Christianity was from Judaism,
- 14:48and expressly so, and how the early Christians wrote extensively about how Christianity
- 14:56and Judaism had made a complete break. They were not following the same traditions.
- 15:01They were not following the same teachings except the Old Testament prophets. So
- 15:09he says, But when mankind had arrived at the period of manhood, then
- 15:13God sent his son and introduced the law of love. He cites Corinthians first,
- 15:18Corinthians and Galatians. Let me see tiny little print, what is that
- 15:26one grinstiance thirteen eleven, I think, and Galatians three twenty four. Of
- 15:31all those who declared to men the divine revelation, the Son of God was
- 15:35preeminently thee and the true witness. He says of himself, for this I
- 15:41was born. For this. I came in the world that I should bear
- 15:43testimony to the truth. He was of all witnesses the best, because he
- 15:48alone had seen God. The apostles had to declare to mend the divine revelation.
- 15:54They had to bear witness of what they had seen, and above all,
- 15:58the resurrection of Jesus Christ, with the revelation given through Christ and his
- 16:02apostles. The revelation that was given for their instruction and for all mankind was
- 16:07concluded. If you remember in the end of the Book of Revelation, there
- 16:11shall be no further revelation. There's so many people that pop up these days
- 16:15and say, yeah, they're usually Protestants, that their prophets and they have
- 16:21some new revelation from God. There is no new revelation now there there will
- 16:26be. God makes things more clear. Many many saints have had visions of
- 16:33angels and spoken with Jesus and everything, and He's made more clear doctrines.
- 16:38The doctor of the Maculate Conception was one that was not clear for the first
- 16:42several hundred years of the Church. Through divine revelation. It was given in
- 16:48that you know, the Saint in a question, had conversations with the blessed
- 16:56Virgin Mary, and I mean, a lot of things happened to help clarify
- 17:00and develop doctrine, but there's no new truth. There's no new teaching.
- 17:06Ever since the death of our Lord and his apostles, God has often revealed
- 17:10himself to men. Yet these subsequent revelations are no continuation of earlier revelation on
- 17:15which our faith rests a much better way of saying what I just said.
- 17:18Instances of these subsequent revelations are the appearances of our Lord to Blessed Margaret Mary,
- 17:25and of our Lady at Lord's Such revelations must not be too lightly credited,
- 17:30as men are liable to be deceived. Yet they must not be rejected
- 17:33without examination. Many of the saints have had such revelations, i e.
- 17:37Saints Francis of ASSISI, to whom Our Lord appeared upon the cross, Saint
- 17:41Anthony of Padua, who in whose arm the child Jesus deigned to rest.
- 17:48These private revelations were more especially given to those who were striving after perfection,
- 17:52in order to encourage them to greater perfection. Still, yet God sometimes reveals
- 17:57himself to wicked men, i e. To balts in the handwriting of the
- 18:00wall. Hence, a private revelation given to anyone is not necessarily a mark
- 18:06of holiness. The revelations, moreover, were no further continuation of the revelation
- 18:11intended for the instruction of the whole of mankind, which ended with the death
- 18:15of the last Apostle. They are rather a confirmation of truce already revealed.
- 18:19Thus, our lady when she appeared at Lord's lords. I have trouble saying
- 18:23that one correctly proclaimed herself the immaclly conception, so confirming the dogma which Pious
- 18:30the Ninth had defined four years previously. And the countless miracles and cures that
- 18:37have taken place there have established the truth of the apparition. Yet it is
- 18:41always possible that the malice of the devil may introduce deceptions into private revelation.
- 18:47No one is therefore bound to give them a firmer belief, even though they
- 18:51have been in general approved by the Church, than he would give to the
- 18:53assertions of an honest and trustworthy man. Revelation was necessary because, in consequence
- 19:00of original sin, man without revelation has never had a correct knowledge of God
- 19:04and his will, and also because it was necessary that men should be prepared
- 19:08for the coming of the Redeemer. The three wise men would never have found
- 19:12Christ if he had not revealed himself to them by means of a star.
- 19:15So mankind would have lived far off from God and would never have attained to
- 19:19a true knowledge of Him if he had not revealed himself to them. As
- 19:23the eye needs light to see the things of sin, so human reason,
- 19:27which is the eye of the soul, needs revelation to perceive things divine.
- 19:33Original sin and the indulgence of the senses had so dimned human reason that it
- 19:38could no longer recognize God in his works. This is proved by the history
- 19:42of paganism. The Heathens worshiped countless deities, idols, beasts, and wicked
- 19:48men, and his worship was often immoral and horrible, as in the humans,
- 19:52as in the human sacrifices offered by him, The gods were often the
- 19:56patrons of vice, the greatest minimum. The Heathens approved practices forbidden by natural
- 20:03law. Thus Cicero approved of suicide, Plato of the exposing to death of
- 20:08those children who were weak or deformed. Their theories were when good, were
- 20:14at variance with their practices. Socrates denounced polytheism, but before his death told
- 20:19his disciples to sacrifice a cock to Escuposculopius, another one at trouble pronouncing.
- 20:29Many of the best of the Heathens recognized and lamented their ignorance of God.
- 20:34Besides, without previous revelation, the Savior would have been neither known nor honored,
- 20:40as he ought to have been known and honored. It was fitting that
- 20:44he should be announced beforehand, like a king coming to take possession of his
- 20:47kingdom. We ought, indeed, to be grateful for God that he has
- 20:49given us the light of revelation, just as the blind man is grateful to
- 20:53the physician who has restored his sight. Yet how many there are who willfully
- 20:59shut their eyes to the light of revelation? Even now? All right,
- 21:03I think we'll wrap it up there. That's the you know, that's the
- 21:06one thing you have to remember. What makes Christianity different and Judaism, what
- 21:11makes the Judeo Christian tradition, and especially Catholicism because we get it from the
- 21:17Apostles who learned it directly from Jesus Christ, is that it's a revealed religion.
- 21:23It's not a mystery religion. It's a revealed religion. It's not a
- 21:27nature religion. It's a revealed God actually intervened, stepped into human events,
- 21:33whether you know when it appeared to Abraham or the burning bush, or Moses
- 21:37on the mountain or the you know, pillar of fire, or Jesus himself
- 21:42and said, this is the truth. I'm revealing myself. I'm revealing my
- 21:48nature to you. And now this is what you must do, and it's
- 21:52really incumbent upon each one of us to investigate the claims of Christianity in order
- 21:57to understand them and to embrace them. Just taking things that face value,
- 22:06you know, that's childlike faith and it's wonderful. But as we mature,
- 22:08we do have to examine it. And when we do, especially when we
- 22:12compare them honestly with other religions and philosophies, we'll see that Christianity is far
- 22:18superior farce. I mean, I literally studied just about every religion on earth,
- 22:25really before I became Catholic and was a member of what three Protestant denominations,
- 22:30and really study the history of Protestantism, which is what led me to
- 22:33believe that Protestantism did not agree with the Bible and was therefore faults. And
- 22:38when I began to study what the Catholic Church actually teaches, every single thing
- 22:44the Catholic Church teaches us in full agreement with the Bible, so only denomination
- 22:48that can say that. So I had to come to the conclusion that there's
- 22:52one true religion. And then I came to the conclusion that there's one true
- 22:56church. Not everybody has to do that absolutely. You know, I've said
- 23:00one before. One of the most beautiful expressions of faith in one of the
- 23:04you know, like a living sane among us, was a severely mentally retarded
- 23:10or down syndrome girl that went to the church I attended, the parish I
- 23:17attended for several years. She couldn't understand the intellectual aspects of the faith,
- 23:21and it was not incumbent upon her to do so. She loved like God
- 23:26asked us to love. But for those of us that do have logical,
- 23:30inquiring minds, it is absolutely incumbent because that is a talent, a gift
- 23:34given by God to the individual, and we can't take it for granted.
- 23:38We can't just go bury it, you know. We have to use the
- 23:41talents that God gave us. Anyway, y'all, I'm going to get back
- 23:47out there and check my turkey. I hope it hasn't burst into flames or
- 23:51anything. In the last twenty minutes that I've been doing this. I would
- 23:55have done my podcast outside, but there's just too much noise. Anyway,
- 23:57y'all, have a grate evening, I hope and plan to talk with you
- 24:02tomorrow. Remember the words of Saint Padre Pio, pray, hope and don't worry.