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  Speaker 1: Is the report tonight? More? Have I support for the
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  Speaker 1: Prime Minister? Have you ever seen anything like this in
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  Speaker 1: your life? Plus I'll talk to Susan Leave three months
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  Speaker 1: after she became opposition leader tough start. Also tonight Victoria's
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  Speaker 1: transgender shame and the Premier's ridiculous and misleading response. Plus
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  Speaker 1: I'll talk to a top climate expert behind a starting
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  Speaker 1: report warning that global warming has been exaggerated. Plus so
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  Speaker 1: much more. But first, I have a question for Anthony Albanezi,
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  Speaker 1: who's been pleasing terrorists, pleasing dictators and treating democracies like dirt.
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  Speaker 1: Prime Minister, why are you recognizing a Palestinian state but
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  Speaker 1: not recognizing Taiwan? Put it this way, why are you
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  Speaker 1: recognizing a Palestinian state that is run in one half
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  Speaker 1: by Hamas terrorists and in the other by the corrupt
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  Speaker 1: Palestinian authority As president funds terrist families, hasn't held an
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  Speaker 1: election in nineteen years and has said evil Zionists helped
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  Speaker 1: Hitler run the Holocaust.
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  Speaker 2: Australia will recognize the state of Palestine.
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  Speaker 1: Why are you refusing to recognize Taiwan as a nation
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  Speaker 1: when it's an independent island country that the Chinese communists.
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  Speaker 1: Tatorship falsely claims as its own a nation that has
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  Speaker 1: free elections, a free media, and kills no one certainly
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  Speaker 1: doesn't take hostages. Let me show you the difference. Just
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  Speaker 1: last month, alban Easy, visiting China, bowing again to its dictator, again,
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  Speaker 1: told President jijinping oh Taiwan. Well, he said, privately, don't worry,
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  Speaker 1: I'm not going to recognize Taiwan as a nation. But
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  Speaker 1: we only found out that it said that when China
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  Speaker 1: released its official readout of Albanese's comments.
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  Speaker 3: Albanese reaffirmed Australia's commitment to the One China policy and
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  Speaker 3: its opposition to taiwan independence.
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  Speaker 1: Whoops. Now, Albanzi was asked by the reporters traveling with him,
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  Speaker 1: wait a minute, what did you say, and he first
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  Speaker 1: seemed to pretend he might not have actually said it,
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  Speaker 1: before backtracking. Did he specifically use those words that you
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  Speaker 1: oppose Taiwanese independence?
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  Speaker 2: Well, you're you're trying to quote a Chinese readout that
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  Speaker 2: I haven't seen what we what we do, what we
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  Speaker 2: do as continue to support a one China policy.
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  Speaker 1: You know what's really going on Australia. Like so many countries,
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  Speaker 1: is terrified of offending the Chinese dictatorship by calling Taiwan
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  Speaker 1: a country which it actually is. I mean, China might
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  Speaker 1: bully us if we do that, and it is the
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  Speaker 1: most powerful dictatorship in history. So what's Taiwan got to
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  Speaker 1: do to get Albanizi to recognize it like he's recognizing Palestine?
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  Speaker 1: Should it also go out now and slaughter twelve hundred
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  Speaker 1: Israelis and kidnap one hundred and fifty one of them,
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  Speaker 1: because that sure worked for Hamas As this terrorist group
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  Speaker 1: boasted a couple of weeks ago, governs about oktober Dolla Filostin.
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  Speaker 1: By the way, let's we'll be counting how many Hamas
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  Speaker 1: spokesman praise what Albanzi is doing.
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  Speaker 2: Now.
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  Speaker 1: These double standards have just pointed out. They simply show
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  Speaker 1: that Albanizi is weak. You'd rather give them to terrorists
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  Speaker 1: and dictators than confront them and defend the democracies that
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  Speaker 1: they threaten, whether it's Israel or Taiwan. But let's now
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  Speaker 1: get to today's developments. Because the Prime Minister was exposed
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  Speaker 1: all over again as a hypocrite, and exposed yet again
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  Speaker 1: by Hamas as a sucker Yesterday, the Sidy Morning Herald
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  Speaker 1: reported that Hamasko founder Sheik Hassan Josef had praised Albinizi
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  Speaker 1: and told the paper our prime minister was indeed doing
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  Speaker 1: exactly what Hamas wanted, which Albenizi pretended it didn't. We
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  Speaker 1: welcome Australia's decision to recognize the state of Palestine. This
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  Speaker 1: position reflects political courage. Of course, it was grossly embarrassing
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  Speaker 1: for Albenzi. But today rescue he thought another Hamas leader said, wait,
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  Speaker 1: Shaik Yosef, that he is actually in an Israeli jail
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  Speaker 1: out of communication. You know, couldn't have done this statement,
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  Speaker 1: and Albenzi grabbed this claim like a drowning man.
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  Speaker 2: Hamas do not want a two states. What they want
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  Speaker 2: is one state. And I notice in the statement that's
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  Speaker 2: made today they say that the alleged statement from the
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  Speaker 2: person yesterday as someone who's been in prison in Israel
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  Speaker 2: since since October twenty twenty three and has no means
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  Speaker 2: of communication. What that should be as a warning to
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  Speaker 2: the media of being very careful about the fact that
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  Speaker 2: Hamas will engage in propaganda.
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  Speaker 1: No Prime minister, oh Prime minister sitting on herald now
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  Speaker 1: says he went back to shape Yusefh's political office in
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  Speaker 1: the West Bank, the office which issues statements on this
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  Speaker 1: Hamas co founder's behalf, and it confirmed that it had
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  Speaker 1: released the statement even though it said yes, Yosef was
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  Speaker 1: in jail. So alban Easy was praised either directly by
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  Speaker 1: the Hamask co founder from jail or praise by the
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  Speaker 1: Hamas staff acting on his behalf, but either way Hammas
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  Speaker 1: praised him. In fact, the ABC Today got a third
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  Speaker 1: Hamas official, this time it's media spokesman, also praising Albanese's
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  Speaker 1: move saying we welcome Australia's decision to recognize the state
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  Speaker 1: of Palestine and consider it a positive step. And Scarne
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  Speaker 1: News Today got yet another statement from a fourth Hammas official,
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  Speaker 1: also praising Albanese's recognition of Palestine, saying any efforts from
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  Speaker 1: any party to help the Palestinian party to achieve their
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  Speaker 1: national goals of independent state and self sovereignty are welcomed.
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  Speaker 1: But it then added to the core questions, how do
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  Speaker 1: we implement and how to oblige Israel to abide by
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  Speaker 1: international law, and this Hammas spokesman said these movements are
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  Speaker 1: in need of teeth otherwise we will continue to stay
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  Speaker 1: struggling in the same violence, vicious circle, which made me think,
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  Speaker 1: wait a minute again, alban Easy, He told us that
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  Speaker 1: recognizing Palistine would lead to peace, not more violent vicious
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  Speaker 1: circle stuff, would lead to Hamas disarming, not keeping on fighting.
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  Speaker 1: But here is am I saying, well, actually, Albo, we'll
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  Speaker 1: keep fighting until we get more. And they mean much
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  Speaker 1: more because some us, of course, most popular party in
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  Speaker 1: Palestine doesn't actually want peace, it wants Israel destroyed. But
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  Speaker 1: I'll finished with one more thing, Albany's outrageous hypocrisies, little
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  Speaker 1: lecture today, let's hear it again.
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  Speaker 2: What that should be as a warning to the media
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  Speaker 2: of being very careful about the fact that Hamash will
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  Speaker 2: engage in propaganda.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, be careful about believing Hamas propaganda, says Anthony. Albanisi
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  Speaker 1: says the bloke who's swallowed the propaganda that Israel is
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  Speaker 1: starving Palestinians to death, even repeating that two days ago,
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  Speaker 1: the day that Israel actually lead in he had another
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  Speaker 1: three hundred and twenty trucks of aid and nearly one
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  Speaker 1: hundred food drops by air. Things it does now about
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  Speaker 1: every day. I mean, it's Alban easy, the one who
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  Speaker 1: also swallowed the propaganda a muss oh no says a must,
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  Speaker 1: We're not actually stealing food to enrich ourselves. He's the
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  Speaker 1: one who also swallowed the propaganda that this boy was
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  Speaker 1: being starved by Israel when it turned out he had
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  Speaker 1: serious pre existing conditions muscle disorders and cerebral palsy and
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  Speaker 1: other things. And his brother, meanwhile, was actually plump and healthy.
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  Speaker 1: What's starvation? How man? He's foreign minutes of penny won.
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  Speaker 1: She's also swallowed her must propaganda. Oh from the start.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, like his false claim that Israel blew up
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  Speaker 1: the Alali hospital and guards and killed five hundred people.
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  Speaker 1: There's wig in Israeli. She even offered a sympathy the
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  Speaker 1: next day, the pro palace in the extremelessness I much
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  Speaker 1: me when the truth is that the hospital wasn't blown up.
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  Speaker 1: Its car park had been hit, and not by an
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  Speaker 1: Israeli rocker but a Palestinian one that had misfired. And
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  Speaker 1: the death hle wasn't five hundred, It was probably under
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  Speaker 1: one hundred according to American security sources. I mean, what
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  Speaker 1: hamas propaganda hasn't this government believed? And only today Albert
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  Speaker 1: He's he said, ooh, don't trust the mass well, not
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  Speaker 1: when it says it loves me, not when it says
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  Speaker 1: it backs my plan to recognize Palisine, or don't believe
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  Speaker 1: it then, seriously, Prime Minister, isn't it time to stand
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  Speaker 1: for the truth, to stand for democratic allies, and to
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  Speaker 1: stop giving comfort to tyrants and terrorists. I'm John now
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  Speaker 1: by the opposition leaders Susan Susan Lee. Great to see you.
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  Speaker 1: It's a first for you on this show as opposition leader.
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  Speaker 1: Can I start with this on Monday? As you know,
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  Speaker 1: I criticize you for not immediately calling a press conference
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  Speaker 1: over Anthony Ibaneze's disastrous decision to recognize Palestine and giving
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  Speaker 1: as far as I can tell, just one interview, your
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  Speaker 1: officers told me you had reasons for that. What were they?
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  Speaker 3: I was out in the western part of my electorate,
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  Speaker 3: Andrew actually didn't hear your criticism. I'm happy to come
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  Speaker 3: on your show, and I think it's my second time
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  Speaker 3: as opposition leader. I'm very happy to talk about the
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  Speaker 3: issue that you've raised, because you're absolutely right, the Prime
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  Speaker 3: Minister has made a complete mess of this. Topped today
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  Speaker 3: by our Prime Minister quoting a listed terror organizations statements
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  Speaker 3: in defense of his position and relying on those. So
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  Speaker 3: are the good guys in Hamas saying the right thing
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  Speaker 3: and the bad guys in harms saying the wrong thing?
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  Speaker 3: And if that's the case, which part of her Mass
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  Speaker 3: was responsible for the atrocities on October the seventh. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: you're quite right, Andrew. We in this country should be
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  Speaker 3: defending liberal democracies, and I thought our government would do that,
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  Speaker 3: defend the liberal democracy in the Middle East that is Israel,
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  Speaker 3: and support our strongest ally the US in its statements
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  Speaker 3: about how peace can be brought to the region.
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  Speaker 1: Look, I find this absolutely extraoring. And I heard Alexander
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  Speaker 1: down to the longest serving foreign minuitters that we had
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  Speaker 1: have had, and I think probably the best, say today's
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  Speaker 1: the worst the foreign policy decision he can recall Australian
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  Speaker 1: government making since World War Two. I mean, her Mass
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  Speaker 1: really is making a fool of this bloke, isn't he
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  Speaker 1: Isn't it.
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  Speaker 3: To see our prime ministers stand up there and sound
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  Speaker 3: as if he has some sort of gotcha moment in
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  Speaker 3: response to the legitimate criticism that is coming at him
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  Speaker 3: from everywhere on this issue. By saying he's found a
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  Speaker 3: statement from Hamas saying another statement by Hamas wasn't correct.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, this is ridiculous and it's not supporting what
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  Speaker 3: we all want to see, which is peace in the region.
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  Speaker 3: And the truth is that that piece can only be
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  Speaker 3: broken by the US, and the US has called this
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  Speaker 3: out for what it is. Secretary of State Marco Rubio
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  Speaker 3: has said it's unhelpful and early recognition of a Palestinian
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  Speaker 3: state is actually going to mean that it takes longer
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  Speaker 3: for a ceasefire in Gaza and for peace to return.
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  Speaker 3: So we all want to see the war end, we
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  Speaker 3: want to see ghazaans fed, we want to see the
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  Speaker 3: Israeli hostage is released. But this is actually an obstacle
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  Speaker 3: to all of that. There can be and should be,
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  Speaker 3: no reward for terror, and there can be no recognition
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  Speaker 3: without peace. Conditions, and we saw them that Anthony Albinezi
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  Speaker 3: said that he had placed on his decision were achieved,
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  Speaker 3: are unachievable, and it became rapidly clear that the recognition
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  Speaker 3: that he is going to give is going to be
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  Speaker 3: completely unconditional.
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  Speaker 1: Well, let's not call them conditions because they're simply empty promises.
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  Speaker 1: That's all it's got. I mean, there's no way that
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  Speaker 1: Hamas that the Palatine door is going to hold elections
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  Speaker 1: within the next month before he recognizes Palestine, So you know,
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  Speaker 1: it's just a promise that in my view, Ever, how
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  Speaker 1: can they.
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  Speaker 3: How can they exclude Hamas from those elections, and how
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  Speaker 3: can they dismantle the terrorist infrastructure that is Hamas? And
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  Speaker 3: I don't know, they want to seem to want to
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  Speaker 3: quote part of Hamas that they need to keep on
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  Speaker 3: side in some way. I mean, this is this is
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  Speaker 3: how preposterous these statements today are. And my point is
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  Speaker 3: that they are roadblocks in the way of peace in
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  Speaker 3: the region and the requirement that well, the wish that
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  Speaker 3: we have for a two state solution is further away
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  Speaker 3: from reality than ever. And I'm very disappointed to see
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  Speaker 3: our Prime minister make such a mess of this, particularly
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  Speaker 3: with respect to the most important alliance that underpins the
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  Speaker 3: critical geo strategic circumstances that we find ourselves in, and
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  Speaker 3: that is the US Alliance.
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  Speaker 1: Oh look, it's disgusting, it's disgusting, it's disgusting. Assysily back
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  Speaker 1: to home, the government's going to next week hold its
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  Speaker 1: economic round table which Albanezi claims will tackle our disastrous
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  Speaker 1: productivity which is created especially since his government was elected.
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  Speaker 1: But a liquid report from the Treasury to the government
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  Speaker 1: suggests what this around table of the government experts is
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  Speaker 1: already expected to achieve, like it's already a done deal,
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  Speaker 1: a pre arranged I don't know. And it seems to
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  Speaker 1: be hardly about productivity. It's mostly about speeding up housing improved,
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  Speaker 1: creating a national artificial intelligence plan, to cut environmental red tape,
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  Speaker 1: things like that. The Treasures today deny this document proved
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  Speaker 1: the round table results haven't been rigged beforehand. He is.
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  Speaker 4: I don't think it should come as a surprise to
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  Speaker 4: anyone that the Treasury has been briefing us on those
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  Speaker 4: issues that have been raised in the very substantial consultation
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  Speaker 4: that we have undertaken.
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  Speaker 1: Has he got a good point there?
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  Speaker 3: He's completely able to be seen through, if I can
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  Speaker 3: put it that way, Andrew, I see straight through this
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  Speaker 3: whole exercise. It is a stitch up.
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  Speaker 1: It has been.
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  Speaker 3: Choreographed in advance. The Productivity Commission has released various papers.
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  Speaker 3: There's been doing and throwing between the usual people who
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  Speaker 3: would comment. And you know what I really feel annoyed
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  Speaker 3: about is that people are going to give up their
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  Speaker 3: day and go to this roundtable in good faith. The
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  Speaker 3: Treasury has leaked quite a bit of information coming from it,
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  Speaker 3: but the big picture is this, Australians are living through
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  Speaker 3: a period of declining productivity, a fall in living standards,
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  Speaker 3: the greatest fall in living standards in the developed world.
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  Speaker 3: They need a government that backs them in. They need
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  Speaker 3: a government that gets out of their way, a parliament
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  Speaker 3: that understands what their life is like, and an appreciation
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  Speaker 3: from their government. The growth is the most critical thing
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  Speaker 3: of all here now. As Liberals, we understand this. Growth
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  Speaker 3: lifts services, growth lifts incomes, and growth gives hope. But
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  Speaker 3: there's nothing in this agenda that is about that. It
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  Speaker 3: is all about raising taxes, and the leaks and the
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  Speaker 3: reading between the lines demonstrates that that's exactly what is
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  Speaker 3: coming out of this roundtable. A complete stitch up.
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  Speaker 1: It's three months now since you were elected the leader
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  Speaker 1: of the Liberals and became the Opportunities leader to how
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  Speaker 1: tough has it been.
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  Speaker 3: I feel very grateful every day to hold this position, Andrew,
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  Speaker 3: and I really mean that. And two things give me
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  Speaker 3: energy and I wake up in the morning. One is
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  Speaker 3: the incredible team that I have in my parliamentary party
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  Speaker 3: and they're out there fighting the fight and making the case.
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  Speaker 3: And the other is that our liberal values and what
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  Speaker 3: we have to fight for on behalf of Australians, hard
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  Speaker 3: working Australians, are tested and timeless and so needed today
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  Speaker 3: because we are here for those hard working Australians, people
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  Speaker 3: who do work incredibly hard, who take risks, who give back.
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  Speaker 1: How tough, because you've always tended to fly under the radar,
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  Speaker 1: and indeed, a couple of weeks ago, the Daily Telegraph
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  Speaker 1: asks one hundred people in the street to identify you
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  Speaker 1: from the photograph. Not a single one could. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: what's the issue do you think here and how are
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  Speaker 1: you going to change things to cut through?
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  Speaker 3: I'm introducing myself to Australians wherever I go, and I'm
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  Speaker 3: finding that people do recognize me, and maybe they don't
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  Speaker 3: from a photograph that doesn't look like the way they
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  Speaker 3: see me every day. You know, I'm not focused on
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  Speaker 3: what the media says about these things at all, Andrew.
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  Speaker 3: I'm really focused on what I need to do in
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  Speaker 3: this role and how incredibly important it is, and the
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  Speaker 3: hard work is something I'm not afraid of. I'm known
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  Speaker 3: for my work ethic and as I said, I love
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  Speaker 3: the Liberal brand. It's the brand that I stuck on
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  Speaker 3: my caravan that I lived in when I was a
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  Speaker 3: shearer's cook and towed up and down the Murray River
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  Speaker 3: in two thousand and one when I was running for
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  Speaker 3: Parliament and no one thought I would win and I
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  Speaker 3: did by two hundred and six votes. And I'm so
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  Speaker 3: proud of that brand and what it represents and the
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  Speaker 3: golden thread of aspiration that we've through every section of
• 18:50
  Speaker 3: Australian society that is represented by the Liberal Party. And
• 18:54
  Speaker 3: so when you ask me how tough it is for
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  Speaker 3: me the best I have the best role in promoting
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  Speaker 3: it it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, but I'm wondering whether you need to
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  Speaker 1: change things up and maybe you know that the whole
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  Speaker 1: conviction politics is I don't think really coming through. You're
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: taking it zero. I mean, you've decided you're going to
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: take up to a year to decide whether you think
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  Speaker 1: this damaging global warming target should be scrapped. That's going
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  Speaker 1: to be a year of drift, of uncertainty, of seeming
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  Speaker 1: like you lack the courage or the understanding to reach
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  Speaker 1: a decision. I'm not sure that it's going to be
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  Speaker 1: a cut through issue for you if you're going to
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  Speaker 1: dodge it for that long, don't you think.
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  Speaker 3: Not at all, not dodging it. And I've said that
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  Speaker 3: we will take the time that we need to to
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  Speaker 3: get this right, and we need to have an energy
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  Speaker 3: policy that does reduce emissions. Plays our part by the
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  Speaker 3: way the government submissions are going up, not down. Your
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  Speaker 3: viewers would well know that, and also delivers a reliable
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  Speaker 3: energy grid for households and businesses. But the most important
• 19:58
  Speaker 3: game right now when energy is mentioned, is holding the
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  Speaker 3: government to account for their eighty two percent renewable energy
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  Speaker 3: by twenty thirty fairy tale for the fact that power
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  Speaker 3: prices are going up and there are broken promises. That's
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  Speaker 3: what my team is doing because failures of this government
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  Speaker 3: are our number one priority. Because every opposition's task firstly
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  Speaker 3: is to hold the government to account. And while I
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  Speaker 3: recognize Australians that's a good I also know that they
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  Speaker 3: are breaking their promises.
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  Speaker 1: No, that's true, that's true, except, of course everyone will
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  Speaker 1: then ask but what's your solution, and you won't have
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  Speaker 1: one for a year. So I just wonder whether that's
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  Speaker 1: going to be a problem. But Susan Lee, thank you
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  Speaker 1: so much indeed for coming on the show. Really appreciated.
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  Speaker 1: After the break, thank you. Five top climate scientists worn
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  Speaker 1: that what you've been told about the so called climate
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  Speaker 1: crisis is wrong. I'll talk to one of them about
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  Speaker 1: the report that's caused a real uproar. I'm amazed how
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  Speaker 1: little attention the media is given to a new report
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  Speaker 1: in global warming I mentioned last week. I'm not as surprised,
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  Speaker 1: to be honest. I mean, I've seen how the media
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: ignores proof of the warming scare. It's grossly exaggerated. But
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: I think you deserve to know more about this report.
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: In the United States, Chris Right is the brilliant gas
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: tycoon and now leads the US Department of Energy. He
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: hired five very prominent climate experts. The report back to
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: the government are what the climate was really doing and
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: whether we could trust predictions by the most popular climate
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: models that we're facing dangerous warming of at least three
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: degrees of this century and we're already copying all sorts
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: of climate disasters for the author's conclusion was that the
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: climate models are actually unreliable. They're all over the shop.
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: They predict probably one degree more warming than it is likely,
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: and we aren't getting many of the predicted climate disasters. Plus,
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: global warming also has benefits that are often ignored, especially
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: a big increase in trees and crops that we've been
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: seeing a greening of the planet, And in this report,
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: the authors summoned all up like this models, the climate
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: models and experience suggests that carbon dioxide induced warming may
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: be less damaging economically than commonly believed and excessively aggressive
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: mitigation policies you might include our own zero schemes could
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: prove more detrimental than beneficial. So you can understand why
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: the authors have since been absolutely trashed for daring to
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: doubt the climate scare and upsetting the climate industry that
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: be called all sorts of names, painted as fools, frauds,
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: Donald Trump, Toady's, even Stalinists. Would you believe, but don't
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: be fooled by the abuse because the five authors are
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: in fact very prominent experts. Professor Emerita jud Curry has
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: published one hundred and ninety two peer reviewed papers on
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: the climate. Doctor Roy Spencer and Nars Nasau senior scientists
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: who runs probably the most accurate measure of world temperature.
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: Professor Ross McKittrick, and expert reviewer of the last three
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: reports of the Global the Intergovernmental Panel and Climate Change,
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: and Distinguished Professor John Christy, a former lead author of
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: an IPS deceiver report. I mean, these are very serious people.
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: Plus Stephen Coonan is a physicist and former Undersecretary for
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: Science for President Barack Obama, a Democrat, And I am
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: joined by Stephen Coonan. Steve Coonan, thank you so much
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: for your time. Why didn't you and the other four
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: experts behind this report actually agreed to do it when
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: you must have known the climate industry and the media
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: they would really.
• 23:32
  Speaker 5: Go for you, indeed, But you know, we are all
• 23:36
  Speaker 5: five of US scientists who have long felt that the
• 23:40
  Speaker 5: science was misrepresented to the public and the decision makers,
• 23:44
  Speaker 5: and we wanted to do our best to set the
• 23:47
  Speaker 5: record street.
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: Well, your report agrees on many points with what I'll
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: call the consensus, the alarmist position, perhaps the position of
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: the United Nations in the Government Panel and Climate Change.
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: You say, yes, global warming israel, Yes it's a problem.
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: Yes it's causing part by humans. Now tell us where
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: you disagree with this consensus.
• 24:11
  Speaker 5: Well, you know, ninety five percent of our report people
• 24:16
  Speaker 5: have said, agrees with or is taken right out of
• 24:18
  Speaker 5: the IPCC. It's just that there are aspects of what
• 24:23
  Speaker 5: the consensus says that do not find their way to
• 24:27
  Speaker 5: the public. For example, there are no detectable trends in
• 24:32
  Speaker 5: the great majority of extreme weather types. The models that
• 24:37
  Speaker 5: we use to project climates into the future are demonstrably deficient.
• 24:44
  Speaker 5: They are in many ways all over the place in
• 24:46
  Speaker 5: terms of what they project, and the projected impacts of
• 24:51
  Speaker 5: future climate change even using those deficient models are minimal.
• 24:57
  Speaker 5: And these are very important central points that are there
• 25:01
  Speaker 5: in the report, but do not make their way to
• 25:05
  Speaker 5: the public discussion.
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: You actually point out that the models tend to run hot,
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: as in predict more warming than we've had. They're unreliable
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: a number of basing on false assumptions of how much
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: emissions we're going to get. You actually predict almost the
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: one degree less warming over the century than the IPCC
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: model consensus. How important is that.
• 25:34
  Speaker 5: Well, to be clear, we don't predict, We simply cite
• 25:38
  Speaker 5: and assess the work of others. But certainly if the
• 25:42
  Speaker 5: warming is a degree less than what the IPCC consensus says.
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: That's a big deal. And what about the climate disasters?
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: I mean, every time we've got it right now, you know,
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: we've got some algae blooming off the South Australian coast
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: global war warming, we get a heavy rain, global warming,
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: get a drought, global warming. How much influence has man
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: made warming really had from the work that you've done
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: in this report, how much does it really influence the
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: natural disasters we tend to see.
• 26:20
  Speaker 5: You know, we have a very short memory for weather disasters.
• 26:24
  Speaker 5: There's a lovely example we turned up having to do
• 26:27
  Speaker 5: with the floods in Texas that we saw at the
• 26:31
  Speaker 5: beginning of July that were a terrible tragedy. But if
• 26:35
  Speaker 5: you look back in the records, you can find the
• 26:38
  Speaker 5: same kind of event happening in the same place in
• 26:42
  Speaker 5: nineteen hundred and of course, human influences on the climate
• 26:47
  Speaker 5: were much smaller in nineteen hundred and so you have
• 26:50
  Speaker 5: a very hard time logically attributing the recent disaster to
• 26:56
  Speaker 5: carbon dioxide. The same is true for many of the
• 27:00
  Speaker 5: severe weather phenomena they happen in the past, they're just
• 27:04
  Speaker 5: relatively rare, and so we get surprised when we see
• 27:07
  Speaker 5: them happen in the present day.
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I noticed, for instance, in your report you say
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: the number of heat waves in America actually peaked nearly
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: one hundred years ago, the number of heat waves that
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: were striking America at the time, and what we see now,
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: all right, you know, is much less.
• 27:25
  Speaker 5: The damning thing about the heat waves is that we
• 27:29
  Speaker 5: really don't understand why the thirties was so much warmer
• 27:34
  Speaker 5: than it was in many subsequent decades. And that speaks
• 27:39
  Speaker 5: to our rather poorer understanding of the way in which
• 27:44
  Speaker 5: the climate varies.
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: Now your report, I think we're The real thing that's
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: annoying some of the people in the climate industry is this,
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: you say the warming will be less than what most
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: people are claiming. You say the disasters from the warming
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: we've seen are not basically exaggerated. They're not that many
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: that you can point to, and the attempts we make
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: to stop all this are very expensive, and well do
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: they really work? The takeout here isn't it that it
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: might not actually be worth trying to stop what isn't
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: the disaster the climate disaster that many claim.
• 28:32
  Speaker 5: Absolutely, you know, in deciding what to do, we have
• 28:36
  Speaker 5: to balance the hazards, the certainties and uncertainty is and
• 28:40
  Speaker 5: they're changing climate against other considerations like the world needs
• 28:44
  Speaker 5: more and more energy, and deciding what to do, you
• 28:48
  Speaker 5: have to look at the costs, are they going to
• 28:50
  Speaker 5: be effective? What about equity between generations, between countries and
• 28:56
  Speaker 5: so on. It's not simply that, oh, my god, we've
• 28:59
  Speaker 5: broken the climate and we've got to fix it. And
• 29:02
  Speaker 5: I think people get annoyed when we start to expose
• 29:06
  Speaker 5: those nuances of the situation.
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: Oh yes, so you've really offended in church, And of
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: course you also stress what's undeniably true. The greening of
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: the planet is actually a benefit of extra carbinoxide in
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: the atmosphere. More trees, more plants, more food.
• 29:30
  Speaker 5: Agricultural yields have in fact doubled over the last sixty
• 29:35
  Speaker 5: years or so, and a good fraction of that nasass
• 29:40
  Speaker 5: seventy five percent is attributable to higher carbon dioxide levels.
• 29:45
  Speaker 5: You know, if you look inside a hothouse, we put
• 29:49
  Speaker 5: the carbon dioxide levels typically up to about twelve hundred
• 29:53
  Speaker 5: parts per million, which is just about three times what
• 29:57
  Speaker 5: you find in the atmosphere.
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: Even now, now you've come under a massive attack. Of course,
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: Steve Kernan, I mean environmental groups are even suing to
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: censor the report. You've got media outlets of the left
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: demonizing you, running so called fact checks. I've had a
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: look at a few, and they're not persuasive. Some climate
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: scientists are abusing you, claiming, you know, the group of
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: you are just hand picked skeptics, even though you used
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: to be with the Obama administration. Have there been any
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: criticisms of your report? Do you think, yep, that's fair enough,
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: we've goofed here, or we haven't taken this into consideration.
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: Any criticism you think you can tell you should take
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: on the chin.
• 30:40
  Speaker 5: Well, we've seen one already that you know we meete
• 30:43
  Speaker 5: basically a typographic or ever in one of the footnotes,
• 30:46
  Speaker 5: and we have acknowledged that to the person who pointed
• 30:50
  Speaker 5: it out, and of course we will fix it. But
• 30:53
  Speaker 5: you know we're refraining right now from looking in detail
• 30:56
  Speaker 5: at the criticisms lot until they come in in the
• 30:59
  Speaker 5: next coup weeks to the public portal, and then, as
• 31:03
  Speaker 5: we have promised, we will deal with every serious criticism seriously,
• 31:08
  Speaker 5: and like good scientists, we will modify the report as
• 31:12
  Speaker 5: might be warranted from those criticisms.
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: Steve Kernan, You've been fighting the alarmism for some time now.
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: This is I think your weightiest blow against the scaremongering.
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: So congratulations and thank you so much for your time.
• 31:31
  Speaker 5: Well, thank you.
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: After the break. The Victorian Premiere abused as a journalist,
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: has exposed the government's latest irresponsible pushing of transgender politics
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: onto children. We'll give a truth bomb after this. Victoria's
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: Labor government is still ignoring all the evidence that children
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: are in serious danger from the transgender cult. It's published
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: their Respectful Relationships Advice to Schools, which says to dred
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: as young as five should be taught that their body
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: parts may not match their gender, and it suggests responses
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: children can give if questioned about wanting to say play
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: on the girl's theme when they are actually boys, like yes,
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: I can play with the girls theme because I'm a girl,
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: or go ask the teacher if you don't believe me.
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: The Premierture Center Allen just slam the Journalsy reported this,
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: using the inaccurate moral blackmail used so often to silence
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: debate the suicide threat.
• 32:29
  Speaker 6: Transgender kids are fifteen times more likely to kill themselves,
• 32:33
  Speaker 6: so whether it's across our schooling system or across our
• 32:36
  Speaker 6: health system. Supporting those kids and supporting those families should
• 32:41
  Speaker 6: be a priority because it's the.
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: Right thing to do.
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: What's not right.
• 32:45
  Speaker 6: What's not right is this ongoing campaign to tear down
• 32:50
  Speaker 6: programs that are about strengthening kids' resilience.
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: In fact, the Casts review in Britain, which exhaustively check
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: the evidence on transgender treatment, not only warned against children
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: being lured into believing they were in the wrong body
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: when they're actually often confused or traumatized or suffering conditions
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: by autism, but it added that the evidence does not
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: adequately support the claim the gender affirming treatment reduces suicide risk.
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: You just make it worse. Join me of Sky News
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: presented James Ufferson the Late Debate here in Sky at
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: ten pm and Chris McSweeney has worked for Coalition prime
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: ministers and premiers. James was the Premier right to be
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: so angry? She went on with a more abuse or
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: is that anger a sign of panic that she's been
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: caught out doing something irresponsible.
• 33:38
  Speaker 7: I don't think it was a sign of panic so
• 33:40
  Speaker 7: much as a tactic. I mean, she didn't try to
• 33:43
  Speaker 7: hide her outrage. She performed it huffed, she puffed, she
• 33:47
  Speaker 7: rolled her eyes, She looked at the journalist with contempt,
• 33:51
  Speaker 7: and it was almost like she was trying to switch
• 33:53
  Speaker 7: the topic from whether or not it's appropriate to teach
• 33:57
  Speaker 7: five year olds they may be in the wrong body,
• 34:00
  Speaker 7: to whether or not she should be questioned on this
• 34:02
  Speaker 7: at all. In fact, she called it disgraceful reporting, by
• 34:06
  Speaker 7: which I think she meant it was disgraceful that this
• 34:09
  Speaker 7: had been reported. She tutted people for not supporting transgendered kids. Well,
• 34:15
  Speaker 7: everyone wants to support transgendered kids. The question that she
• 34:19
  Speaker 7: did not answer was whether or not to support transgendered kids,
• 34:23
  Speaker 7: we have to teach all kids gender ideology. And second,
• 34:27
  Speaker 7: whether in supporting transgendered children, the best support is a
• 34:32
  Speaker 7: gender affirming model, or maybe we should consider they may
• 34:35
  Speaker 7: need some other help other than being put on a
• 34:38
  Speaker 7: pipeline towards gender transition. She refused to engage in any
• 34:43
  Speaker 7: of those questions, instead suggesting it was ill fitting that
• 34:48
  Speaker 7: she even be asked any of this at all. It
• 34:50
  Speaker 7: was a tactic that she used, and I think most
• 34:53
  Speaker 7: people are smart enough to see through it.
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: And playing the suicide card. Christopher Sweeney, what do you
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: make of it all.
• 35:01
  Speaker 8: A theater from a premier under pressure. Despite the disastrous
• 35:07
  Speaker 8: goings on of the Victorian Liberal Party, the premier continues
• 35:10
  Speaker 8: to slide in the polls and the Labor Party continues
• 35:14
  Speaker 8: to be worried about her performance and her ability to
• 35:18
  Speaker 8: sell a message and to be convincing to the Victorian public.
• 35:22
  Speaker 8: It was a premier who, as you say, pulled at
• 35:24
  Speaker 8: the heart strengths instead of answering the questions, and the
• 35:28
  Speaker 8: real questions are around, well, why has this program delivered
• 35:33
  Speaker 8: into schools in Victoria since two thousand and sixteen in
• 35:37
  Speaker 8: response to an inquiry into family violence? How has it
• 35:41
  Speaker 8: morphed into teaching four and five year olds these types
• 35:45
  Speaker 8: of responses and I have looked up the Victorian government
• 35:50
  Speaker 8: website on this relationship program and I can see that
• 35:55
  Speaker 8: some schools have actually done a good job and delivered
• 35:58
  Speaker 8: the program as was initially intended. There's one school here
• 36:03
  Speaker 8: in Melbourne, Primary School which has taught gender diversity and
• 36:06
  Speaker 8: gender equality to young people and gender is module seven
• 36:10
  Speaker 8: and ah that teachers can teach under the eight modules
• 36:13
  Speaker 8: in this program. They have got a male nurse to
• 36:17
  Speaker 8: come in and talk to the primary school students and
• 36:19
  Speaker 8: a female police sergeant to deliver that gender equality and
• 36:24
  Speaker 8: gender identity comes in all sorts of forms of occupations.
• 36:28
  Speaker 8: Now that's appropriate and that's probably a good way of
• 36:31
  Speaker 8: delivering the program. Nowhere in these materials that I've read
• 36:34
  Speaker 8: about the initial program, can I see this type of
• 36:38
  Speaker 8: advice that was reported today in the Australian. And no
• 36:42
  Speaker 8: doubt the premiere is not across her brief on this program.
• 36:45
  Speaker 8: She returned time and time again to say it was
• 36:48
  Speaker 8: about the prevention of family violence. Everybody supports the prevention
• 36:51
  Speaker 8: of family violence. These questions here are clearly not about
• 36:55
  Speaker 8: the prevention of family violence.
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: A lot of hiding behind very emotive statements here, James.
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: This new racism or this new tribalism that's been worrying
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: me for a couple of decades. Now it's promoted so
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: heavily by the ABC. Now, look, if some white woman
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: decided to form a running club just for white people,
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: a white run club should be smashed for races, particularly
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: on the ABC, and rightly so probably, But the ABC
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: is no trouble promoting a brown run club for brown
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: runners only.
• 37:32
  Speaker 9: Have looked, I had a run club that was made
• 37:35
  Speaker 9: for people like me by that, I mean South Asians.
• 37:37
  Speaker 9: South Asian run clubs have been on the rise across
• 37:40
  Speaker 9: Australia and in other parts of the world.
• 37:43
  Speaker 6: Oh my god.
• 37:45
  Speaker 9: The goal is to help more South Asians find a
• 37:47
  Speaker 9: sense of community and promote a sense of belonging, something
• 37:50
  Speaker 9: that some South Asians haven't felt in Australia.
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: Isn't this racist or at the very least in the
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: ABC instead to be promoting people who integrate, not by race.
• 38:02
  Speaker 7: See if I understand this correctly Andrew in twenty twenty five,
• 38:05
  Speaker 7: your skin color determines your running group? Is that what
• 38:09
  Speaker 7: they're saying. The ABC seem to be cheering for this,
• 38:12
  Speaker 7: And of course if it's a brown running group that's inclusive.
• 38:15
  Speaker 7: I presume if it's a black running group, that would
• 38:17
  Speaker 7: be inclusive. But as you pointed out, if it was
• 38:19
  Speaker 7: a white running group, that would be racist. They're looking
• 38:23
  Speaker 7: for a sense of belonging by dividing themselves from the
• 38:27
  Speaker 7: rest of the community, and they're trying to connect with
• 38:29
  Speaker 7: South Eastern Asian people. Well, you can get on a
• 38:33
  Speaker 7: plane and go and connect with all the Southeast Asian
• 38:36
  Speaker 7: people you want, But if you're in Australia, wouldn't it
• 38:38
  Speaker 7: be advisable to run with your fellow Australians for the
• 38:43
  Speaker 7: ABC to be doing a puff piece on this. And
• 38:46
  Speaker 7: as you said, if they did a puff piece on
• 38:48
  Speaker 7: a white running group, well it wouldn't be a puff piece,
• 38:51
  Speaker 7: it would be white supremacism. The ABC should not be
• 38:54
  Speaker 7: pushing this, especially at a time where social cohesion is
• 38:58
  Speaker 7: such a big issue. Bring Australians together, not divide them
• 39:02
  Speaker 7: up by running group according to skin color. For goodness sake.
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: Yep, Honestly, if they did an item in my running habits,
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: it would be not a puff piece but a piece. Christie,
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: what did you make of this? I mean, I don't
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: know if you're in. Are you in an all white
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: running group, only white running group? Oh gosh, no, I'm not.
• 39:28
  Speaker 8: I am in a couple of running groups actually, but no,
• 39:32
  Speaker 8: I'm not in an all white running running group. I
• 39:34
  Speaker 8: wouldn't join one, you know, I don't know who would,
• 39:38
  Speaker 8: but I certainly wouldn't join one. Running by its nature
• 39:41
  Speaker 8: is really inclusive, and it's about it's more about finding
• 39:45
  Speaker 8: people who match your pace and your fitness level. And
• 39:48
  Speaker 8: I'd run with anybody who could match my pace, good
• 39:51
  Speaker 8: or bad. On the day rather than be concerned about
• 39:55
  Speaker 8: what color they were. You know, you really want to
• 39:58
  Speaker 8: be challenged when you're on a run and make sure
• 40:01
  Speaker 8: you do your personal best. I'm not turning up to
• 40:03
  Speaker 8: them thinking, oh gosh, there's too many you know, people
• 40:06
  Speaker 8: of different ethnicities here, or you know, it's it's that's
• 40:10
  Speaker 8: not what's running is about. The thing I think is
• 40:14
  Speaker 8: it's I saw it on Instagram. I thought, that's a
• 40:17
  Speaker 8: really cute sort of story. By the outset, it's clearly
• 40:21
  Speaker 8: a really young reporter of South Asian heritage. She wanted
• 40:25
  Speaker 8: to do the story. I imagine, and I imagine the
• 40:28
  Speaker 8: ABC is there ticking off and crossing off how many
• 40:31
  Speaker 8: stories they've done that support each minority group in the
• 40:35
  Speaker 8: version of Every Week, and and this one's snuck in.
• 40:41
  Speaker 9: Yeah.
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: Look absolutely. It just fits into that whole identity politics
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: thing of the A v C. You know, where it
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: is really obsessing about what color and what race people
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: are and its own staff are. I mean, the whole
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: thing is so bizarre. I just wish we could go
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: back to thinking that it it's more moral to be
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: color blind. James wit First and Christy McSweeney, thank you
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: so much. Indeed for your time after the break. Donald
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: Trump threatens vletdim me Putin ahead of their meeting tomorrow,
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: and in Britain, police tell civilians to go catch their
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: own crooks. Don't bother the police. Donald Trump meets Russian
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: President Vladimir Putin face to face in Alaska tomorrow so
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: that Trump can tell if Putin really is ready to
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: stop his invasion of Ukraine and on what terms. But
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  Speaker 1: the US president has been strung along so often by Putin.
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  Speaker 1: But at least it's done a huge switch from blaming
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  Speaker 1: the rush of the Ukrainian leader for the war to
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  Speaker 1: now blaming the Russian war criminal whose fault it really is.
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  Speaker 1: The fear is that Putin is going to sell Trump
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  Speaker 1: a deal that punishes Ukraine. But Trump overnight claimed that
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  Speaker 1: he could very well punish Putin instead. Yes, they will,
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  Speaker 1: what will don Hans, There will be There will be I.
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  Speaker 5: Don't have to say that would be very severe kindsequences.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, but Trump talks so often about taking a stick
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  Speaker 1: to Putin. Lie either sooner have to put up or
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: be treated like a paper tiger. And that would really
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  Speaker 1: be dangerous for the world. But I want to go
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  Speaker 1: to Britain now, what on earth is wrong with that
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  Speaker 1: country and it's bizarre labor government. The other day a
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: shopkeeper post of this apology to customers of his vintage
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  Speaker 1: store due to scumbag shoplifting, please ask for assistance to
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: open cabinets, had to lock them, but said police told
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  Speaker 1: them to remove the sign because it was supposedly provocative
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  Speaker 1: and offensive. That is not the worst of it. Join
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  Speaker 1: me from London as Patrick Christie's star presenter of the
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  Speaker 1: now top rating GB News. Patrick, great to see you again.
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  Speaker 1: What's the latest crazy news about the battle against shoplifters
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  Speaker 1: who seem now to be running riot?
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  Speaker 10: Yes, okay, so you've got the fact that we're not
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  Speaker 10: allowed to call them scumbags in case that is defamatory
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  Speaker 10: to people who steals all the time. We're also not
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  Speaker 10: allowed to publish the faces of shoplifters from CCTV like
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  Speaker 10: wanted posters, because that will be against their data protection.
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  Speaker 10: But the big thing, now, the big thing, Andrew, is
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  Speaker 10: that we are being told allderary members of the public
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  Speaker 10: that we should stop shoplifters ourselves. So forget you know,
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  Speaker 10: if the police are there, because they're not. Forget shop
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  Speaker 10: security because they don't seem to do anything, and it
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  Speaker 10: is now on members of the public to wrestle a
• 43:29
  Speaker 10: shopliftered to the ground themselves like some kind of weird
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  Speaker 10: batman vigilante figure. Of course, part of the problem with
• 43:36
  Speaker 10: this is that a lot of shoplifters might be doing
• 43:39
  Speaker 10: it because, say they want to feed some kind of
• 43:40
  Speaker 10: addiction or something get a bit of money for that,
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  Speaker 10: So you could end up essentially trying to wrestle a
• 43:44
  Speaker 10: drug addict to the floor and get stab with a needle. Also,
• 43:47
  Speaker 10: some of them are just very unsavory characters. Anyway, we
• 43:49
  Speaker 10: have huge levels of knife crime in this country. I
• 43:51
  Speaker 10: don't know about you, but I'm probably not going to
• 43:54
  Speaker 10: get stabbed for a frozen lasagna. And however, just on
• 43:59
  Speaker 10: that note, this is what happens when you do not
• 44:01
  Speaker 10: increase your police force in line with rapid massive population growth.
• 44:06
  Speaker 10: The population grows by the best part of half a
• 44:08
  Speaker 10: million people every single year, almost entirely fuel through net migration.
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  Speaker 10: The police force numbers have remained relatively stagnant for the
• 44:16
  Speaker 10: last ten or so years. And another funny thing that
• 44:18
  Speaker 10: you should probably be aware of as well is my
• 44:21
  Speaker 10: local shop has a shoplifting quota so sometimes when I
• 44:24
  Speaker 10: want to go there after I finish my television show
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  Speaker 10: in the evenings, the shop is closed because they've hit
• 44:29
  Speaker 10: their allocated number of shoplifters for the day, and they'll
• 44:32
  Speaker 10: just shut up shop. One policy that they did try
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  Speaker 10: to introduce was to introduce cardboard cutouts of police officers
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  Speaker 10: standing in the doorway with their arms folded like this,
• 44:41
  Speaker 10: just in case the shoplifter was stoopidenough to think it
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  Speaker 10: was a real police officer and didn't go in there.
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  Speaker 1: In Nick Annethy, Oh, for goodness sake, Patrick, Patrick, I'm
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: going to say, talking about general hopelessness and an inability
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  Speaker 1: to police the law. The number of illegal boat people
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  Speaker 1: that have landed in Britain since Labor was elected, and
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  Speaker 1: this is just over a year ago and he just
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  Speaker 1: over a year ago, has now reached fifty thousand, incredible numbers.
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  Speaker 10: Why is that, Well, fundamentally, we're not really deporting anyone
• 45:18
  Speaker 10: unless they want to voluntarily leave themselves. So that's the
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  Speaker 10: crux of the matter. However, the Labor Party ran to
• 45:24
  Speaker 10: power on a message ob smash the gang, smashed the gang,
• 45:26
  Speaker 10: Smash the gang, to try to say that they would
• 45:28
  Speaker 10: tackle the human traffickers, the people smugglers, Well, there was
• 45:32
  Speaker 10: some absolutely devastating data that came out yesterday here in
• 45:36
  Speaker 10: Britain that shows that arrests for people smugglers is down
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  Speaker 10: under this government year on year than it was the
• 45:44
  Speaker 10: government before, which is absolutely astonishing. So they've only arrested
• 45:49
  Speaker 10: one hundred and ninety two people for people smuggling offenses. Now,
• 45:54
  Speaker 10: bearing in mind that we have had days where one
• 45:57
  Speaker 10: thousand people have crossed in a single day, that is
• 46:00
  Speaker 10: an absolutely astonishingly low return, especially when you see that
• 46:03
  Speaker 10: journalists like myself have handed the authorities human traffickers on
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  Speaker 10: a plate with their names, their identities, their phone numbers,
• 46:11
  Speaker 10: their locations, their voices on record everything. It is an
• 46:14
  Speaker 10: unbelievably low number of arrests. And in fact, we've had
• 46:18
  Speaker 10: more than one hundred and seventy thousand people across the
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  Speaker 10: Channel in the last few years alone, and the grand
• 46:23
  Speaker 10: total of people that we've arrested in the last few
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  Speaker 10: years for human trafficking offenses has been nine hundred and twelve.
• 46:31
  Speaker 10: That's it. Well, you know, we bear in mind that
• 46:33
  Speaker 10: we had like five hundred people arrested for supporting Palestine action. Rightly,
• 46:37
  Speaker 10: so but with five hundred people arrested for supporting Palestine
• 46:39
  Speaker 10: action last Saturday alone, mean, it just shows you how
• 46:42
  Speaker 10: little they're doing about what many regard as the invasion
• 46:44
  Speaker 10: of Britain.
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  Speaker 1: I wonder Patrick whether this explains to the absolutely extraordinary
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: polls that now show that Nige for Araunda's anty immigration
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: reform Paddy would smash the Labor government and the election
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  Speaker 1: with the Conservative Party a distant pathetic third. What's that about?
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: And can Nigel for actually maintain them my menu mental
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: the election in a few years time.
• 47:12
  Speaker 10: Well, he certainly will feel as though he can. We
• 47:14
  Speaker 10: and see, Look it is almost singularly about the illegal immigration,
• 47:18
  Speaker 10: but also well legal immigration as well, but illegal immigration.
• 47:21
  Speaker 10: And as you will have been noting, and junior viewers
• 47:23
  Speaker 10: and listeners will as well, we have had enough in
• 47:25
  Speaker 10: this country now the general public have decided to go
• 47:28
  Speaker 10: and protest outside migrant hotels, have decided to stand up
• 47:30
  Speaker 10: and say we've had enough of this stuff. We're not
• 47:32
  Speaker 10: far right, we just don't want this anymore in our communities.
• 47:35
  Speaker 10: The other thing is levels of crime committed by people
• 47:38
  Speaker 10: who have just arrived through this country, and the fact
• 47:40
  Speaker 10: that for years it's felt as though that has been
• 47:42
  Speaker 10: covered up and people have been lined to about the
• 47:44
  Speaker 10: ethnicity and the nationality of people who've been committing crimes,
• 47:47
  Speaker 10: very serious crimes in their local area. Having just come
• 47:50
  Speaker 10: to Britain. People are now frankly absolutely sick of it.
• 47:53
  Speaker 10: So those polls are not a surprise. It's obviously just
• 47:55
  Speaker 10: on Nigel Farrage now to keep that momentum up. But really,
• 47:59
  Speaker 10: I mean, you know, the fact his labor and the
• 48:01
  Speaker 10: Conservatives don't really seem to be doing very much. As
• 48:03
  Speaker 10: long as he just stays alive, I think there's quite
• 48:05
  Speaker 10: a good chance that he will be the next Prime minister.
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  Speaker 1: Very interesting. Patrick christ is always great to talk to you.
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: Thank you so much. Just one last thing, you know,
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: all these low writing policies is so dispiriting, so I'm
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: going to recommend from a tip the Anthony Trollop books.
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: The Palliser series also called the Parliamentary Series has started
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: with can you forgive her the Phineas Finn the Prime Minister?
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: I mean this may be idealistic. It has written Anthony
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: Tiled one hundred and fifty odd years ago. That's the
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: guy who It was a fantastic BBC series about it too,
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: really good. As always, you can go and see this
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  Speaker 1: Sherry Marks, and next good night,