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I Am All In…Again: More to Say with Morey (Season 1 E4 “The Deer Hunters”) · I Am All In with Scott Patterson

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  Speaker 1: I am all in again. Oh that's just.
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  Speaker 2: Hi, am all in again with Scott Patterson and iHeartRadio Podcast.
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  Speaker 1: Hey everybody, Scott Patterson, I am all in Podcast, one
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  Speaker 1: of them productions. iHeartRadio, I heart Media, iHeart Podcasts. We
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  Speaker 1: are doing our breakdown episode with none other than the
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  Speaker 1: one the only Maury.
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  Speaker 3: Ted Rooney is.
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  Speaker 1: Joining us, Ted, how are you? Danielle Romo is joining
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  Speaker 1: us for this this breakdown? How you doing, Ted? How's
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  Speaker 1: life going?
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  Speaker 4: I'm so excited to be here after you ran through
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  Speaker 4: all the episodes, right we.
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  Speaker 1: Did one time?
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  Speaker 4: Yes, you must be so so good at this by now.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not really getting that much better at.
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  Speaker 3: It, to be honest with you.
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  Speaker 2: Guess he is. He's great.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not really good at it in the first I
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  Speaker 1: but the important part is I enjoy it, and that's
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  Speaker 1: all that matters.
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  Speaker 3: Okay.
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  Speaker 4: Good.
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  Speaker 2: The crazy thing Ted is before this Scott and I
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  Speaker 2: were both hadn't seen Gilmour Girls. So this is our
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  Speaker 2: second take at it now, so.
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  Speaker 4: All the episodes. Now you're one of the huge fans
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  Speaker 4: out there.
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  Speaker 2: That's right.
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  Speaker 1: We have joined the legions, okay of worshiping fans. And
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  Speaker 1: this is season one episode for The Deer Hunters that
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  Speaker 1: aired October twenty six, two thousands. Still struggling to catch up,
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  Speaker 1: A Chilton Rory receives the first d of her life
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  Speaker 1: on an English assignment, and it's soci umiliated that she
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  Speaker 1: plunges into obsessive studying. Directed by Alan Myerson, written by
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  Speaker 1: Jed side Dell ted, what's your overall impressions of this
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  Speaker 1: episode as you watched it recently?
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  Speaker 4: Well, I see the beginnings of a potential relationship with
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  Speaker 4: the Max Medina. Yeah, I know that you might find
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  Speaker 4: that threatening.
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  Speaker 1: I do no longer find that threatening. I find it delightful.
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  Speaker 4: You reached the end of the You didn't even know
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  Speaker 4: what happened in the end that you guys ended up together.
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  Speaker 1: So now you I know I won, So I got
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  Speaker 1: not to worry about I won.
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  Speaker 4: Any way.
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  Speaker 1: I got the girl.
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  Speaker 2: Max Medina was a solid threat to your Happily.
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  Speaker 1: Ever, I like this guy. I like everything about him.
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  Speaker 4: Happened to remember you going on a rant about him
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  Speaker 4: touching her elbow or something like that me on a Ramsey.
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  Speaker 1: Remember that was I ranting you.
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  Speaker 4: Were ripping him.
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  Speaker 1: He did, he touched touched her elbow in that first scene.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's what I'm saying. See, we're talking about Cinnamon's
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  Speaker 4: weight last year or three years ago.
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  Speaker 1: Oh my god, honestly, ted when I saw it this time,
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  Speaker 1: because I watched it this morning, I did not like it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, but I'm not going to go on a rant
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  Speaker 2: on like the elbow touch again.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, look, I got two beefs here, I got, I got,
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  Speaker 1: I got, I got a couple of beefs here. He
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  Speaker 1: touched the elbow, and then he leaves a message at
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  Speaker 1: the end, and he says, and a Laura lies, you're
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  Speaker 1: listening really nice singing over there?
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  Speaker 3: What a movie? I hope what happens again?
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, no, you don't not do that.
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  Speaker 2: That is what you call smooth.
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  Speaker 4: Face.
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  Speaker 2: He was like, okay, then, like I see what you're
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  Speaker 2: put it down there.
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  Speaker 4: I see went upon first meeting somebody a woman, Uh, Scott,
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  Speaker 4: would you touch her elbow to go to the next room. Hey,
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  Speaker 4: let's go to the next room and touch because I
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  Speaker 4: you know when a woman touches me because that never
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  Speaker 4: happens hardly ever. But who I don't really know that's
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  Speaker 4: a sign they're touching your body, you know, Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that is sure is Yeah. I guess that's what
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  Speaker 1: people do when they find somebody attractive. You know, the
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  Speaker 1: guy will touch an elbow. And he touched an elbow.
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  Speaker 1: There was full contact on the elbow right there. We
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  Speaker 1: played it on slow motion replay. There's no disputing it.
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  Speaker 1: New York confirmed it, and the flag was honored.
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  Speaker 4: Here. You are a new man. You I don't hint,
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  Speaker 4: and I don't hear a hint of jealousy in your voice.
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  Speaker 2: Now.
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  Speaker 1: I like Scott Collin a whole lot. I think the
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  Speaker 1: character was smooth and great. I thought it was a
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  Speaker 1: I thought their chemistry together was it was fantastic. I
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  Speaker 1: really enjoyed watching it this time. I watched enjoyed developing
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  Speaker 1: this relationship and the beginnings of it. And I thought
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  Speaker 1: he acquitted himself quite masterfully. Actually, I thought he was
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  Speaker 1: a pretty Danielle. I agree it was a smooth operator,
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  Speaker 1: smooth guy, but genuine you know. I mean, I think
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  Speaker 1: he was just not he wasn't being like, he wasn't
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  Speaker 1: trying to be somebody else. He was just beating himself
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  Speaker 1: and he genuinely kind of like, you know, the thunderbolt
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  Speaker 1: struck him and.
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  Speaker 4: He was like, oh boy, seems like a really nice guy.
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  Speaker 1: Oh he is, he is, he does the character and
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  Speaker 1: the man himself a terrific guy.
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  Speaker 2: This episode is very not special, but very forthcome. I'm
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  Speaker 2: not quite sure what the word I want to say is,
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  Speaker 2: but we do see Rory fail for the first time
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  Speaker 2: in her life, you know, like she has been put
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  Speaker 2: on this massive pedestal and this is the first time
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  Speaker 2: we see her, you know.
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  Speaker 4: And you're talking about the D right, yeah. Well. One
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  Speaker 4: of my favorite quotes of the episode is when she's
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  Speaker 4: whining about getting a D to loral I and getting
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  Speaker 4: a D is humiliating, she said, And the Lorealis line was, oh, honey,
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  Speaker 4: you told me once that you loved watching Saved by
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  Speaker 4: the Bell? What could be more humiliating? That one. I
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  Speaker 4: don't laugh a lot, and and Gilmore grows Mostly I
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  Speaker 4: just smile and wonder how they memorized all those lines
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  Speaker 4: and got them up to speed. But that one I
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  Speaker 4: laughed out loud.
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  Speaker 1: Well, it does set in motion some really great storylines.
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  Speaker 1: Max Medina's storyline floor line. It it really, you know,
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  Speaker 1: Paris really throws down the gauntlet on Rory.
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  Speaker 2: Here you're going down and vice versa.
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  Speaker 1: Vice versa, where it was like, you know, knockout.
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  Speaker 2: Respect was established, and Rory.
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  Speaker 1: Came back with some really crushing right hands and a
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  Speaker 1: nice left hook right there and even delivered a knockout
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  Speaker 1: blow to Tristan on the way out and screaming her
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  Speaker 1: own Ray Ray. You know, it's like, whoa, yeah, you
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  Speaker 1: go right.
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  Speaker 2: And also, you guys would know her more than I do.
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  Speaker 2: But Alexis seems like she is very you know, quiet
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  Speaker 2: and sweet and as an actress I could only imagine.
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  Speaker 2: But she had it muster up to get it in
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  Speaker 2: character in that scene.
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  Speaker 1: It's the only time I've ever seen Alexis like that
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  Speaker 1: in that state, you know. But she nailed it. I
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  Speaker 1: mean it really came from, yeah, a real place, you know.
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  Speaker 1: It was like and he and he had it coming
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  Speaker 1: to him. I mean, that's smug guy that Chad Michael
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  Speaker 1: Murray portrayed so well. He really had to coming to him.
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  Speaker 1: So the writing is so good because the writers though
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  Speaker 1: when a character, you know, can just light somebody up,
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  Speaker 1: and that was perfect. It was perfect.
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  Speaker 4: Do they get to become friends later Tristan and Rory.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a there's a moment there at a party
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  Speaker 1: and he displays some introspective and displays a little humility,
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  Speaker 1: you know, with her, and there's a there's a recognition there. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: but I think I think he quickly reverts back to
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  Speaker 1: his old son, Yeah, Tristan. So yeah, So then you know,
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  Speaker 1: we get into this you know, this D getting this
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  Speaker 1: D drives this episode. This This is a lot of
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  Speaker 1: Rory and Laurel I and it's all about you know it,
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  Speaker 1: does she have what it takes to get through the
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  Speaker 1: curriculum at Chilton and it and it adds this really
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  Speaker 1: unexpected tension right away to the show. I mean, here's
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  Speaker 1: a girl who was doing so well and everything's so
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  Speaker 1: easy for her at Stars Hollow Heights. Then she gets
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  Speaker 1: into a situation. Yeah, and then she gets into the big
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  Speaker 1: leagues and everybody can hit a fastball. You know, it's like, oh,
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  Speaker 1: what do I do now? What were your impressions of this, Ted,
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  Speaker 1: did you find that I.
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  Speaker 4: See a young girl at the crossroads. My son is
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  Speaker 4: at the same age right now, and there's a crossroads.
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  Speaker 4: You know, are you going to rise to the occasion
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  Speaker 4: of your hopes or are you going to choose the
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  Speaker 4: other path, the safer path? And when once she comes
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  Speaker 4: out to Laura I about it, that's what they talk about,
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  Speaker 4: and Laura I, I'm gonna now, I'm gonna. I'm not
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  Speaker 4: sposed to cry. It's so cool how Laura I supports
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  Speaker 4: her completely and and says, I got your I know
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  Speaker 4: you can do this, but at the same time gives
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  Speaker 4: her that out so that she leaves the choice completely.
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  Speaker 4: The reason why I'm gonna cry is because that's what
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  Speaker 4: i want to do for my son. I want to challenge.
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  Speaker 4: It was absolute best and you're in one of your crossroads.
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  Speaker 4: You want to take the road less traveled, but it's
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  Speaker 4: scary and and so you want to support if the
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  Speaker 4: person doesn't do that, and with the hope that eventually
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  Speaker 4: they're gonna, you know, on their own figure their own way.
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  Speaker 4: But it's tough. It's tough as a parent to to
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  Speaker 4: let go and and and trust at the same time,
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  Speaker 4: you know, be there for them. So I thought, look,
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  Speaker 4: I just did that beautifully.
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  Speaker 2: And you felt the support there too, especially when they
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  Speaker 2: studied for the test, you know. And later on in
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  Speaker 2: this episode you see Lurlai like nope, I'm going to
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  Speaker 2: hang in there with you and falls asleep and then
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  Speaker 2: joins Rory at the table, who is asleep, like it's
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  Speaker 2: just you felt the mother daughter's support in this episode
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  Speaker 2: for sure.
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  Speaker 1: How could you not love these two? Every parent out
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  Speaker 1: there watching this was just like, wow, what a what
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  Speaker 1: a relationship, What a great relationship, what a great mom.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, we're all parents here and we would do
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  Speaker 1: anything for our kids. We would do anything.
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  Speaker 3: That's fine.
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  Speaker 4: So that first hooked the mother daughters that are out
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  Speaker 4: there watching just how how well they operated as friends
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  Speaker 4: and parent and child.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think the hook was in right away, But
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  Speaker 1: now the hook is is all the way in. You know,
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  Speaker 1: it's it's like episode four. You know, people are telling
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  Speaker 1: their friends to watch this wonderful show now and this
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  Speaker 1: it's delightful and it's light and it's funny, but it
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  Speaker 1: also deals with real world issues of raising a child
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  Speaker 1: as a single.
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  Speaker 3: Mother, which is really late.
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  Speaker 1: The theme really laid out here and this is the
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  Speaker 1: spine of this entire thing. Just beautifully done and just
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  Speaker 1: they were in so many scenes. It's like scene after
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  Speaker 1: scene after scene with these two. And that's a huge
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  Speaker 1: ted you know, that's a huge workload. In an eight
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  Speaker 1: day shooting schedule, they're there all day, every day, and
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  Speaker 1: it's you know, sixteen eighteen hour days and it's exhausting,
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  Speaker 1: and it's amazing the energy that is coming out of
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  Speaker 1: the two of them and the work that they're doing
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  Speaker 1: just awe inspiring, all inspiring. So we go to the end. Now, okay,
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  Speaker 1: and here's another great storyline. Ted, talk a little bit
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  Speaker 1: about your impressions of what Suki is going through and
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  Speaker 1: how this on the folds.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, the the Risotto rise incident, and I honestly there
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  Speaker 4: was a scene at the very I want I don't
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  Speaker 4: want to jump to the end. I hear you guys
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  Speaker 4: wanting to walk through the episode and I want to
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  Speaker 4: go to the you know, the parties can do that.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, we can jump around.
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  Speaker 4: Suki. She had this great you by the gentleman that
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  Speaker 4: wrote for the magazine that came to review, uh, her
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  Speaker 4: food at the at the what do you call the place,
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  Speaker 4: the hotel or.
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  Speaker 1: The Independence end, Lucian Mills, Lucian Mills, the food critic.
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  Speaker 4: And it was a great review except he liked the
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  Speaker 4: roto risotto was fine, fine, And that word echoed and
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  Speaker 4: echoed in Sukie's brain and just got it drove her crazy.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, as as a perfectionist, the word fine is not cool,
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  Speaker 2: you know, I can I can resonate with Suki's fire
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  Speaker 2: coming out of her.
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  Speaker 4: You know, she wasn't crazy. Upset found out on me
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  Speaker 4: and she wasn't being crazy because there was something to
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  Speaker 4: the risotto that wasn't quite right, and it wasn't her fault.
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  Speaker 2: It wasn't her fault.
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  Speaker 4: It was the wine that was served. Am I right?
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  Speaker 4: That didn't go well with the RESULTA right the wrong?
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  Speaker 1: He served her a riseling or gave him a riling
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  Speaker 1: the second time around. I don't know something, but yeah,
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  Speaker 1: it was the wine.
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  Speaker 4: And then and then in the end, Suki brought the
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  Speaker 4: risotto to uh the gentleman's door, the reviewer's door, to
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  Speaker 4: have him, you know, to rectify the whole situation and
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  Speaker 4: show him, even though he loved everything she did, uh
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  Speaker 4: that that the risotto was good. Uh. It was a
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  Speaker 4: funny scene because I noted that I did not see
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  Speaker 4: the reviewer the whole time, and I was wondering, Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: like they cast the role, so we had an extra
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  Speaker 4: stand there and somebody say the words right.
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  Speaker 1: And Suki facing the camera not turning to look at Lucian.
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  Speaker 1: We never saw Lucian, so obviously it wasn't an actor.
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  Speaker 1: They hired. It was somebody somebody else that filled in,
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  Speaker 1: and that's how they had to shoot it, you know,
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  Speaker 1: because they didn't they didn't they didn't want to come
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  Speaker 1: around and do the coverage on on Suki. They just
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  Speaker 1: did like, let's just do this as one shot and
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  Speaker 1: do a couple of different sizes.
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  Speaker 4: I thought there was like a character reason for that
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  Speaker 4: that she wasn't looking and I'm what's going on here? Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: that's cool.
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  Speaker 2: I didn't you guys that those thoughts didn't even cross
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  Speaker 2: my brain. I was just like the risotto. So it's
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  Speaker 2: cool that from you guys who are in it, that
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  Speaker 2: you can see what actually or you know, guess what
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  Speaker 2: actually happened with this guy.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's probably what happened. And again here
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  Speaker 1: we see Laurel I being, you know, this great friend
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  Speaker 1: and this great support and tuned with everything that's going
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  Speaker 1: on in her life and her concerns and and wants
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  Speaker 1: to make it better. She's always wanting to make it better.
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  Speaker 1: And that's that's a very nice, warm, cozy relationship she
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  Speaker 1: has with Suki. And just these these early scenes in
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  Speaker 1: the kitchen are my favorite. They're just my favorite. I
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  Speaker 1: just think that the acting is so spectacular and uh,
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  Speaker 1: you know, it's it's all so engaging and it's really
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  Speaker 1: interesting to see somebody so concerned about And also, these
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  Speaker 1: are what I'm trying to say is these are people
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  Speaker 1: that are that want to give their best. They're doing
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  Speaker 1: their best, and when they feel like they fall in short,
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  Speaker 1: they take it to heart. Rory getting the d Suki
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  Speaker 1: getting you know, just an okay review on one, you know,
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  Speaker 1: a great review, but the risotta was fine. Everybody just
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  Speaker 1: wanting to do their best. It's it's it's fun to watch,
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  Speaker 1: it's it's it's heartwarming. Jackson comes in. He forgot Suki's
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  Speaker 1: porcinis and she didn't even get mad. He tries to
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  Speaker 1: cheer up and then they call the waiter in. So really,
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  Speaker 1: the bottom line is that Suki is very bothered by
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  Speaker 1: Lucian Mills calling her risotto fine, and she takes care
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  Speaker 1: of it. She just she has to find out where
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  Speaker 1: where Lucian lives because he did say this is a
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  Speaker 1: little creepy. She said, like, I don't care, try this
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  Speaker 1: with this wine boom. How do you want?
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  Speaker 2: I really want? Right?
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  Speaker 1: But how do you not love Suki? Saint James, these
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  Speaker 1: characters are irresistible.
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  Speaker 4: That's I think the keys of the show you're touching
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  Speaker 4: on here is that they're all human, right, uh. And
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  Speaker 4: they have their you know, their foible, their their issues
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  Speaker 4: so to speak, but they they all are good people
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  Speaker 4: that are good to each other. And some people talk
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  Speaker 4: about the show with me is there it's their comfort food,
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  Speaker 4: you know, visual comfort food. And it's because you're seeing humans,
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  Speaker 4: you know, do life well. And so it's a little
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  Speaker 4: you know, elevated reality. But don't we want to see that?
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  Speaker 4: Don't we want that for our life? We see quirky,
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  Speaker 4: goofy and fallible people that are good at the core, it's.
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  Speaker 1: Right, trying to be the best versions of themselves, you know,
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  Speaker 1: trying to do their day as best they can possibly
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  Speaker 1: do it. Right. This small town vibe is I'm accountable.
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to do the best I can and if
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  Speaker 1: I screw up, I'm going to be really sorry.
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  Speaker 4: Something else there with with the acting early on in
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  Speaker 4: a show, to have seamless acting like that, because I'm
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  Speaker 4: not seeing I'm used to seeing, you know, with one
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  Speaker 4: character or another. Some tells that they're acting right, you
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  Speaker 4: see it. You're like, oh, okay, there's a moment when
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  Speaker 4: they didn't quite get their line right or where they
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  Speaker 4: just didn't really understand the moment fully. But it's seamless
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  Speaker 4: and beautiful. So that pulls your right in because you
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  Speaker 4: feel like you're with real people.
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  Speaker 2: Mm hmmm, I love that.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, oh true. It's such a lighthearted comedy and I
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  Speaker 1: feel I've said this a couple of times. I think
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  Speaker 1: that's how it operates best and keeping it light and
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  Speaker 1: airy and breezy and quick and funny, and then there's
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  Speaker 1: some intense stuff along the way, but not too much,
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  Speaker 1: you know, but it's like relatable real world stuff or
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  Speaker 1: you know, you can be you know, very concerned about
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: your child. I mean, this is this is universal. Everybody
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: has felt this. That's a parent, right This this terror
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: that that their child isn't going to do well enough
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: or you know, they're gonna and the fear is of
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: how that's how your child's going to feel about themselves
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: and your your job as a parent and not to
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: go too overboard with trying to be overly protective, but
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: still it's like toughest job in the world, and uh
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: to regulate that and to balance that out for the
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: for the benefit of your child. To let them figure
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: it out, you know, to let them, but I mean,
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: you know, throw in when you can, like Lorelei, does
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: you know what. Let's go back to when lorele I
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: came in in the B fifty two's shirt and came
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: in late to the meetings, like Mom's late and then
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: Rory's late for the test. So I thought one of
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: the I think Laura Graham is the best thing to
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: happen to television comedy acting since luci Oeball. I have
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: to put her up there on the pantheon of great
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: television actresses or just great actresses overall, because the things
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: that she's doing and the effortless awkwardness, and that's right,
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: the attraction she has to Max Medina as she comes
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: in late. It's just it's just a masterclass in in
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: in comedic acting. I mean not she's not laying it
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: on too thick anywhere. Everythink's just the transitions are really fast,
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: they're seamless. Everything's very smooth.
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: Can I say one thing about about what you're saying though?
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: It's sure? Sure?
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: So I remember when I watched this this for this
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: episode for the first time, I was like, oh my gosh,
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: Lorelai and Max Medina. This is the thing, YadA, YadA, YadA.
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: But watching this episode back twice, Lorlay still is dropping
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: hints with Luke. You still see that like connection when
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: they have a scene together. And now that I know
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: what happens and I'm watching this again, I'm like, uh duh,
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: it's there all along. Like even though she st you know,
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: goes off the path for a second with Max Medena
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: and then later on with her other boyfriends, it's still
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: Luke the whole time. And that's the one thing I
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: noticed in this episode. You still see it even though
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: Max Medina is a distraction.
• 21:34
  Speaker 4: I think you're projecting because like us, you just curmudgeon guy.
• 21:37
  Speaker 4: You know, he's not going to give an inch. See
• 21:41
  Speaker 4: you know where it's going. Yeah you're looking or maybe no.
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: I guess I guess I am looking for it. But
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: you still just see it. Like even in the diner scenes,
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: she just the way she looks at Luke is not
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: like the way she looks at other characters in the show.
• 22:00
  Speaker 4: Well, Scott Patterson having a little crash. I don't know.
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: I love it, man, I was just happy to be there. Yeah,
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: all right, this this is good.
• 22:15
  Speaker 4: You weren't series regular at first, right.
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah, right, just when I shot the pilot, I was
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: just a guest star one episode.
• 22:26
  Speaker 4: Yeah, realized you're in it big time.
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: That's uh, well, I've told you know, I'll tell the
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: story briefly again. My my manager went to uh Gampolone
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: and said, we just go to the network and get
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: him a six year deal, please, you know, if you
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: want them. The chemistry's really good, pilot's really good. These
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: guys belong together, you know, they do, go get him
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: a deal, and he did nice. Yeah, she really pushed him.
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: She was she was like, you know, I think it
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: was like a budgetary they didn't want They had a lot,
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: they had a big cast. You know, they're gonna the show.
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: The show becomes a hit, it becomes a problem for
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: them because they got to have to pay all these people,
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: you know, that kind of thing. So they have budgetary
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: concerns and they maybe you know, and they did that
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: with Rory's boyfriend, with Milo, and and with Chad and
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: with Jared. They were all on. I mean, they were
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: like series regular for a year or or two years,
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: and then their representatives are like, well, we don't want
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: to sign a six year deal because these are young
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: guys with big futures and you know they're not going
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: to be the lead of this show. We think these
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: guys are leading man material, and you know their reps
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: were right because they all turned out to have big careers,
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: Matt and all those guys. Uh so, yeah, so they're
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: just trying to keep the budgets down. You know, Let's
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: let's see if we can get four episodes out of
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: this guy, and then we'll off from four more and
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: we'll pay him that. We'll pay him the per episode rate,
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: which is, you know, a lot less than being a
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: series regular.
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: So, but I mean, you know, a great manager at
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: the time, and we got a six year deal, which
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: is change changed my life. Yeah, I mean that was
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: a nice lunch to sit down to receive an envelope
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: and smile on her face and said go ahead and
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: open it. And I said, what's in here? She goes
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: your future.
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: That's awesome.
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a good day. It's good lunch. Yeah. So yeah, yeah,
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: I got lucky. Anyway, so we have established that we
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: have these incredibly caring people in this town. We have
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: a mother and a daughter who are attached to hip
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: who we are rooting for. And the mom is just spectacular,
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: and she's fun and she's loving, and she loves everybody.
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: She's a great friend to everybody. And she wears cool
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: clothes and she's kind of hip and and she's sexy,
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: and she's smart and she's a little a little wild, right,
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: I mean, she's she's she's a fun person. She's a
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: fun mom. And she marches into chill dress like that
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: the parent teacher meeting all.
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: These stuffy people.
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: Right, and she's gonna throw down with the lady. And
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: she looks at the guy and says, you know you
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: play golf. Yeah, well you know that's your world and
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: I have mine exactly. You know, it's so good, can
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: it was so good, and you know it's it's really
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: bending dorms and it's and it's and it's going into
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: these places, and you know, she's automatically going to be
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: at odds with all of this tradition. And I mean,
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: this is what she ran away from and then but
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: now this is literally what she ran away from sixteen
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: years ago, and now she's back in it, and she's
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: back in it with her parents. So she's she's got
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: she's got to hold her daughter's hand hand through the
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: process because it's what's best for her. But the conflict
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: is so thick, it's so great, you know, Ted, what
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: a great setup, right for a series, What a great setup.
• 26:14
  Speaker 4: Go back and spend time in that whole culture and
• 26:17
  Speaker 4: to help me through it, which is the culture she
• 26:20
  Speaker 4: just hates. So yeah, it's interesting dynamic, right, right, So
• 26:25
  Speaker 4: Sullivan's just congratulations on that, the titular character obviously, And
• 26:31
  Speaker 4: we haven't seen you in a while, right, and now
• 26:35
  Speaker 4: you're I saw it was like seven point five rating
• 26:38
  Speaker 4: on MDB.
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, you know, people love it. Yeah, it's
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: number one in Canada, it's number one in Australia. I
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: think it's it's it's doing very well globally. Yeah, it's
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: it's a nice, nice little show. It's it's it's kind
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: of got that Gilmour vibe too, you know, it's got
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: that small town feel and eccentric characters not quite as
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: centric is is Gilmour. It's not a comedy, it's not
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: a drama. It's it's a drama, but it's yeah, it's
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: got some vibes. Let's go to Kim Antiques now we
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: see Rory because this is really a big Rory episode.
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: It's like we were establishing Rory as the centerpiece here
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: of her world, and now we go see her relationships
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: a little more. Her relationship with Lane heads on over
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: and we see the wacky world of missus Kim's antiques,
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: miss Kim's antiques, and they're playing where we're here here
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: Marco polo as people like to call it Marco Polo. Okay,
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: and Finder has to walk through all the antique stores
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: and and missus Kim is making some sales, you know,
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: she's like she's selling stuff for you know, at that
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: time three hundred seventy five watched for a table not
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: bad score. Yeah, man, she's doing well. And uh so
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: they discuss the d and gives her a chocolate bar
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: and Lane's not permitted to have it twelve calorie rice cake.
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: Lane Kim herself, you know, under the watchful eye from
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: never having its wix bar or a milky we It's
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: chocolate covered death, as she refers to it as as uh.
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: An undaunted Rory retorts with a swirl sweet caramel surprise,
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: then walks away. So interesting how we see all these
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: dynamics feathered in to this one little scene and they're
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: sort of telling you the story without telling you the story.
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: You just can sit back and watch the little little
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: bits of conflict here and there and the problem. And
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: but at the end of the Hey, it lands on
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: you that this is what friends are for. She's going
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: to her friend's house to get support.
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: And you also saw that too in the beginning when
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: she when Rory's driving to school and she calls Lane,
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: and Lane's in her closet and she and she's like, oh,
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: let me check, and she opens up her closet and
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: that's like the first time you see like, oh, she
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: like hides her real self at home, you know, like
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: her closet is full of all these neon lights. And
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: then she opens up her closet and it's her boring bedroom. Right,
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: So that's like the first glimpse you get of Lane
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: being different in hiding really who she is, right.
• 29:41
  Speaker 4: I mean, she could have been sitting on our front
• 29:43
  Speaker 4: front porch and that's it. We knew. We learned nothing
• 29:46
  Speaker 4: new about Lane. Yeah, right, it's written that way. It's
• 29:50
  Speaker 4: awesome weaving, God said, weaving all this information into the story.
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: Isn't it great?
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: Hell?
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: Amy does that amazing? And you root for Lane because
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: she's she's just sort of accepted who her mother is
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: and what her life is living with her mother. But
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: she figured out a way to not go crazy, you know,
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: and she doesn't have to be above board about it,
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: because it's like, Mom, I'm doing this. I'm gonna sit
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: in my cool plush you know, purple velvet room with
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: a strobe light and just chill man, you know, and
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: you'll love to see it. And now we we go
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: to Luke's and Rory's upset, you know, she's she's struggling
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: to keep up the pace at Chilt and we haven't
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: seen Rory like this at all. It's good that they're
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: giving her this giant obstacle to overcome Paris, those girls
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: at that school, the school.
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: Also the fact that she can't like walk all over
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: the school like she's used to. You know, they're like, no,
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: we got very strict rules in line and if you
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: can't adhere to them, and if you can't level up,
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: then sorry, you fall behind.
• 31:15
  Speaker 3: No.
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: I was devastating speech that the principal came to Laura,
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: maybe she shouldn't be here, She don't have to be here.
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: Maybe she doesn't have to go to Harvard. Maybe she shouldn't.
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: I mean those are devastating. I mean talk about reverse
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: psychology and talk about staying cool under fire. Because you know, Laura,
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: I like, well.
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: What would you do if somebody told you that about
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: your kids?
• 31:40
  Speaker 4: Ted?
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: You don't know this, but my son is one years old,
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: so I haven't gotten into that like that level yet.
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: But Scott, your kids in school, and Ted, I'm assuming
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: yours are too. Like if somebody told you that about
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: your kid, I probably would unleash Mama Bear and the
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: school would burn down. Like I wouldn't know how to handle.
• 31:59
  Speaker 4: That station about my son last year, his junior year
• 32:05
  Speaker 4: in the Prince with the principal. It was a bit
• 32:09
  Speaker 4: reversed because nowadays the public schools are just too soft
• 32:16
  Speaker 4: and this is a school with a good reputation, and
• 32:21
  Speaker 4: we're both Laurie and I are both you got to
• 32:25
  Speaker 4: ratchet it up here this kid and he's like, no,
• 32:28
  Speaker 4: he's a good kid. So it's like a backwards conversation
• 32:31
  Speaker 4: compared to what they were having on the episode. Come on,
• 32:34
  Speaker 4: kick him in the butt. He needs a fire under
• 32:36
  Speaker 4: his ass.
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: All right, right, how about you.
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: Scott, how would you handle conversation like that at school.
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: You had a smarty pants too, So smarty pants of
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: a kid.
• 32:51
  Speaker 3: You know.
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: The only time I ever went into his elementary school
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: principal's office was during you know, it was like right
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: after the lockdowns ended, and the kids were really aggressive
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: coming out of COVID, like those those kids were super
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: aggressive coming out of COVID. So there was a lot
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: of bullying and a lot of just wild behavior going on,
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: and and you know, Nick was on the other end
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: of some of that, and so we had some I
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: had some conversations with the teachers, but I think a
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: lot of parents did with with uh that school, and
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: they solved it pretty pretty quickly. Yeah, they they they
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: solved it very very quickly because it was out of
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: control coming out of COVID. And I think I took
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: everybody by surprise. I mean, nobody could have could have
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: predicted how children would come out of COVID and back
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: into a social situation. I mean it was just explosive situation. Yeah,
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: kids were just like going they were climbing walls with aggression,
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: and it was it was bad. It was bad. But
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: you know, it calmed down pretty quickly and they actually
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: had to them and and and this is like, you know,
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: this isn't a a this is a really really great school.
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: Reputation of the school is impeccable. But they had some challenges,
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: you know, and I think a lot of parents went
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: in and helped out. You know. I think I think
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: we we sort of put the pedal of the metal,
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: as it were. It's like, you know, yeah, we're you know,
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: we're not going to tolerate this, and and they responded,
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: to their credit, they really responded. And now it's just
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: like it's a really nurturing, thriving environment for all the kids.
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: Uh COVID. COVID just ripped up a lot of man,
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: I mean all over the country and all over the world,
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: you know, yeah, really really just affected people. So adversely,
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: you know. So that's that's but we have have been
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: back in since, you know, we're just we go on
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: every once in a while and they give us more
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: awards for him.
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: So I guess you don't want to be in the
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: school in your kid's principal office, like you'd rather not
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: stay outside.
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I don't want to go in. There's no reason.
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: I feel like we wouldn't be doing our job in
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: this episode if we did not discuss the deer of
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: it all. That is what the title of the episode is.
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: I laughed out loud seeing that scene again, seeing the
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: deer just run into good Rory's car, and she's like,
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: a deer hit me, and everyone's like, you hit a
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: deer and she's like, no, the deer hit me. I
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: was laughing so much, so funny.
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: What'd you think, ted? It didn't hit me. It wasn't
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: a big comedy moment for me. It was just like
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: kind of a chuckle, unexpected, last thing you expected.
• 35:57
  Speaker 4: I like shaing hit by a deer over and over again,
• 36:00
  Speaker 4: people having a reaction to that, people like, no, you
• 36:03
  Speaker 4: got it wrong, hit you because no one gets hit
• 36:05
  Speaker 4: by a deer. I like like that long that joke
• 36:08
  Speaker 4: that kept playing over and over again. But at the
• 36:12
  Speaker 4: moment itself, I was terrified.
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: Pretty hard hit. I mean she got nail and a
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: crunch that door. Pretty good funny scene. I mean she
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: did it. She did a great job acting wise with
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: the physical comedy part of it's trying to take her
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: her her her I guess her pajama bottoms off because
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: she had her her chilting uniform on, and then running
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: back the car, and you know, the pink pajama bottoms
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: are flying around on her foot because they're still stuck
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: on her foot. So good, good visuals, you know, funny stuff.
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: You know, if shows, if plot emanates from character, this
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: show really adheres to that very wise writing advice, you know,
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: because when you try to plot something out without the
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: consideration of character first, you're in big trouble, big trouble.
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: And that's why you get these wooden films and these
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: really wooden, horrible TV shows. The ones that really resonate
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: have the great characters, and the great character characters you
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: follow them around. They make the plot happen. They make
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: the story happen. And that's exactly you know, you pick
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: a couple of really powerful universal themes and then you
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: have these great characters take you through it. And that's
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: what we have. So the setup is so beautiful here.
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: We know we have a cast of characters. We know
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: we have these powerful characters and Lorelei and Rory and
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: Suki uh and that we haven't even met really Luke
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: very much yet, and we really haven't met Taylor, and
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: you know all these other characters that are you know,
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: not the main part of it. But you know, kind
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: of important aspects of it. But we have we have
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: a nice core group of characters here that I think
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: we feel very comfortable with and enjoy their company, and
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: we think they're kind of funny and smart and heartwarming
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: and all that good stuff, which is what you need
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: for something like that.
• 38:32
  Speaker 4: Yes, a good point.
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: You know, after episode four, we're we're in a really comfortable,
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: good place. We've got characters that we love, and we've
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: got all of this conflict to look forward to. The
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: questions are is Rory going to make it? Is laurel
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: I going to make it with all the Friday night dinners?
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: Or as their head going to explode? Is Laureal I
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: going to find love? Is what's going to happen to
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: What's going to happen to these two? What's going to
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: happen to their relationship? You know, we've only it's and
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: we're on the clock too that the you know, the
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: the sand is going through the hour glass on Rory
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: even being at home anymore. It's a couple of more
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: years and she's off to college. You know how they
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: going to drag us out. So there's all this sort
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: of tension building up with this uh with this series,
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: and it's it's just quite compelling. Ted, what what do
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: you find? What are you finding about this series so far?
• 39:29
  Speaker 4: I have to go back to the crossroads that Rory
• 39:33
  Speaker 4: is facing. By the end of the episode, she resolved
• 39:36
  Speaker 4: that she's going to hang in there, and again as
• 39:39
  Speaker 4: a as a father, just this proud moment that this
• 39:42
  Speaker 4: this girl has come to the conclusion on her own.
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: Now mm hmmmm hmmm.
• 39:48
  Speaker 4: Pick it out and I'm going to fight. I'm going
• 39:50
  Speaker 4: to fight it out and I'm going to take the
• 39:51
  Speaker 4: road less traveled and proud uh of Rory for doing that. Yeah,
• 39:58
  Speaker 4: and it's going to hurt and it's going to be
• 40:00
  Speaker 4: art and then she can make up in Max's class.
• 40:04
  Speaker 4: The fact she did wasn't able to take the test,
• 40:06
  Speaker 4: but the makeup is not going to be easy. I
• 40:11
  Speaker 4: just pull out at this point, but she's like, she's
• 40:13
  Speaker 4: gonna stick it out.
• 40:15
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: That's a really nice scene when they went and looked
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: for the deer at the end to say if it
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: was okay, but they had that they had that nice talk,
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: and it further establishes Lorelai as like this supreme, sensitive, nurturing,
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: smart mom right. She gives Rory the power to make
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: a choice whether to go back to Stars Hollow High
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: because she wouldn't have a problem with it, you know,
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: or stick it out and just perfect and you know,
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: not playing games with her daughter, but you know, psychologically,
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: but making her perhaps leading her in one direction where
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: she knows she doesn't want to give up just yet.
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: You know, great scene, great scene. You just you just
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: keep falling in love with the characters, and uh, this
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: is a very very powerful relationship with These are powerful portrayals,
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: I agree.
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: Oh no pun intended this point.
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: It's just it's just at this point, you're just like
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: you're enthralled with this series, and it's you know, for
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: a guy, it's not really like the kind of thing
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: that honestly that I have ever watched or whatever watch.
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: But you know, I'm in the show and I'm watching
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: these episodes and I just see how darn good it is,
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: and uh, it's kind of magical. And you and and
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: and people are celebrating the show still twenty four years
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: later and turning to this show as they're they're their
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: their support pet or their their comfort animal or their
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: comfort show or come for food, whatever you want. It
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: It serves many different purposes for people, but support and lightness. Yeah, Ted, I.
• 42:10
  Speaker 4: Think one of the keys is what you talked about
• 42:11
  Speaker 4: earlier too. There's plenty of it. It's all coming together.
• 42:15
  Speaker 4: But the writing. The characters don't just say a joke
• 42:19
  Speaker 4: like in crappy sitcoms. It doesn't matter who says the
• 42:23
  Speaker 4: joke and which portrays the character. It doesn't matter if
• 42:27
  Speaker 4: it betrays the character that they say. It matters that
• 42:29
  Speaker 4: the joke gets out there. But Amy, all the humor
• 42:32
  Speaker 4: comes out of the characters. She and Dan Sorry it is.
• 42:39
  Speaker 4: Any joke that comes out of them is from who
• 42:41
  Speaker 4: they are and so, and it's believable, and it also
• 42:46
  Speaker 4: helps develop the character rather than just develop another joke.
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: Right, everything's organic. It's like they're great dramatists. They write
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: great dramas, They write great situations packed with tension and conflict,
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: and then they challenge themselves, Let's see how funny we
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: can make this without it distracting from what we're trying
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: to say here, you know what I mean.
• 43:11
  Speaker 3: And they always do it.
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: They always do it so well with some all this
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: quick humor and quippi stuff. That's why the speed, Because
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: we've got eighty pages. Of wonderfulness here for you when
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: normally you get fifty five or sixty in an hour show,
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: and you're gonna have to talk real fast so we
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: can get to the jokes, so the jokes work right faster.
• 43:34
  Speaker 4: You see these quippie jokes, the funnier they are.
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: It's a weird right, right. And I don't think they
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: thought we need to do this so fast and have
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: it so dense with humor and cultural references. Is nobody's
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: going to get some of the people will get that
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: they're gonna have to go back and watch it again.
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: I don't think that was their intention, right, but that's
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: the way it turned out. I don't think they sat
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: around and said, how do we make a show that's
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: so addictive that twenty four yearly years later people are
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: having it, you know, just on a loop in their homes,
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: you know, which is what happened. So anyway, great job,
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: great job. Final thoughts A plus, yeah, A plus.
• 44:28
  Speaker 4: So far minute for the long haul?
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I just four delightful episodes. I think this is
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: you know, this is when we started reading all of
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: these glowing reviews in the Hollywood Reporter and The Bride,
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: and I think Deadline Hollywood and they were talking about
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: this very special show. I mean the reviews were just
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: there was reviews coming in after the pilot that were off,
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: off the chain, great, and we're all real excited about it,
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: and they just kept coming. And I can see why
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: now because this because remember it was the year two thousand,
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: you know, it really wasn't There wasn't a lot of
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: stuff on TV like this. This really stood out. And
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: I think and I see a lot of shows now
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: that are filled with high speed dialogue, and I think
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: this might have kicked off and inspired a whole generation
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: of writers, because I think a lot of the people
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: that are that we're seeing on Netflix now, these these
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: great writers. I mean, there's some great shows out there now.
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: You know, I was watching The Diplomat last night and
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: I'd never seen it before. It blew mots my mind
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: how good this is. And other shows, you know, the
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: Morning Show, Fantastic, the the Soccer thing, that comedy with
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: what's his name, Uh yeah, Ted, Ted Lasso. I mean
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: just there's all this terrific writing going, all this terrific stuff,
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: and I think some of it it feels like it
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: came from Dan and Amy. I think they inspired a
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: generation of very gifted writing students in college. You know,
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: I think a lot of if you interview a lot
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: of these people and they go on to win these
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: big awards and say, well, when I was in college,
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: or when I was in high school or junior high,
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: I was obsessed with Gilmore Girls, and I just thought
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: this writing is so fantastic, and that's what made me
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: want to be right for television to write for a movie.
• 46:38
  Speaker 3: I think you're gonna hear.
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: I think you're gonna hear a lot of that.
• 46:39
  Speaker 4: If you're a writer, you can imagine the rhythm is
• 46:42
  Speaker 4: so consistent and so there. Just by watching it as
• 46:45
  Speaker 4: a writer, you absorb that rhythm and so it's going
• 46:49
  Speaker 4: to come out of you in your writing.
• 46:51
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I think they they cracked open the ceiling. I
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: think Amy and really they they did something that if
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: it had been done before, because I know they were
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: inspired by old movies, uh you know, from the forties,
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: but they just did it in a fresh new way
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: that it was like this this iteration of this style
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: of writing that no one had really seen before in
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: these situations. And they've seen them in the forties style
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: movie situations, but not not like this.
• 47:28
  Speaker 4: It's a Denique style, Yeah, basically amalgamation of different styles,
• 47:33
  Speaker 4: but it's their own styles. So naturally they stood out
• 47:37
  Speaker 4: and it's good, right, and they're they're terrific writers, so
• 47:40
  Speaker 4: it was considered right.
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: They they they they mashed up a couple of different styles,
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: and we're going to set it in this this beautiful
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: little town and make it a family friendly show and
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: make it about community. But we're going to have all
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: this artistic license with the writing and the humor and
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: the sarcasm and the snippiness, all this stuff through Lorla.
• 48:02
  Speaker 3: I mean, what a role.
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: I mean, Lauren Graham, what a role? It was? The
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: role of a lifetime. Is It's like the role of
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: that era, right, It's the role. There's no other role
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: like it. Yeah, Anyway, I'd love to I'd love to
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: meet all these new writers and talk to them, see
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: who their inspirations were. I'll bet you to a man
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: and a woman, they'll say, Amy Sherman, Palladino, Dan Paladina. Yeah,
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: they spawned a lot of great stuff mixed uhs.
• 48:35
  Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, why right?
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: Jesus imagine, like we'll just we'll write a Gilmore Girls
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: just sort of home on our craft and then we'll
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: go off and write something really good.
• 48:47
  Speaker 2: Wow wow, speaking of really good, m hmm, I'm going
• 48:53
  Speaker 2: to go a little rogue and make a little announcement
• 48:56
  Speaker 2: that Ted is going to be joining us on a
• 49:01
  Speaker 2: very special event in December.
• 49:06
  Speaker 4: Is that correct? Ted?
• 49:07
  Speaker 2: Are we still one hundred percent?
• 49:08
  Speaker 4: They handed me an envelope that they said it was
• 49:11
  Speaker 4: going to change my sights?
• 49:13
  Speaker 2: Ie, Ted, I went bro. We weren't supposed to announce
• 49:18
  Speaker 2: this yet, but since you're here, I'm like, we have
• 49:21
  Speaker 2: to just say it. We'll announce the rest of the
• 49:24
  Speaker 2: guests later on this month. But Ted is joining us
• 49:30
  Speaker 2: for our I'm All In event at Warner Brothers Studio
• 49:33
  Speaker 2: on December eighteenth. The sad thing is in person tickets
• 49:38
  Speaker 2: have been sold out for a long time, but if
• 49:42
  Speaker 2: you wanted to stream it you still can so beeps
• 49:45
  Speaker 2: dot com slash I'm all in. But Ted, We're super
• 49:48
  Speaker 2: excited to have you and our fans and just Gilmore girls.
• 49:52
  Speaker 2: Fans are going to freak out when they see what
• 49:56
  Speaker 2: they have in store for them on December eighteenth.
• 50:00
  Speaker 3: Really cool.
• 50:01
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it'll be just great because it's sold out. For
• 50:04
  Speaker 4: me to get a ticket in, you know, we'll get
• 50:09
  Speaker 4: you in.
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: Well, you're going to be a guest.
• 50:13
  Speaker 2: It's going to be it's gonna be a good time.
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it'll be fun.
• 50:17
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 50:17
  Speaker 1: So go to veeps dot com slash. I'm on to
• 50:21
  Speaker 1: get tickets for the streaming ted.
• 50:23
  Speaker 2: Have you gone to Warner Brothers during like Christmas time
• 50:26
  Speaker 2: when the stars hall is all decked out.
• 50:29
  Speaker 4: Only for a Gilmo Girls episode, but other than that,
• 50:32
  Speaker 4: I've never known.
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: Oh boy, you're going to Oh boy, Warner Brothers doing
• 50:37
  Speaker 1: holidays made here from December eighteenth to January fifth, And
• 50:41
  Speaker 1: what they've done is they've refurbished and rebuilt Luke Steiner
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: Taylor Docy's Market. They have decorated the entire back lot
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: at Warner Brothers as it was during Gilmore Girls, but
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: enhanced it with lights and Christmas lights and all kinds
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: of displays. And Warner Brothers has a massive merch store
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: set up inside a Dosie's market, and they're going to
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: be fans are going to be coming in be able
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: to buy.
• 51:10
  Speaker 2: All the food and drinks is girls food and drinks, tards,
• 51:14
  Speaker 2: doughnuts like stuff like that.
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: That is yeah right, I've I've cought my coffee company
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: co branded with Warner Brothers, and we've got we're launching
• 51:23
  Speaker 1: our Winter Blend that day. We've got five other blends
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: that we're going to be serving there, and also there's
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: also a surprise beverage that we're going to be serving
• 51:33
  Speaker 1: as well. I believe it starts with Hot and ends
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: with cho So we're very excited about that.
• 51:43
  Speaker 2: I'm so excited, I like aim counting down the days.
• 51:46
  Speaker 2: It's gonna be so much fun.
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's gonna be a blast.
• 51:49
  Speaker 4: So time.
• 51:50
  Speaker 2: We look forward to seeing you.
• 51:52
  Speaker 1: Yes, we do. Thanks for joining us, Ted Rooney, the
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: one and only uh much fun.
• 51:58
  Speaker 3: Thank you.
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: And you keep in touch with Sally much. I know
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: she's always out on the road doing a musical theater.
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: She's always in Kansas or Missouri and she's doing she's
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: lighting it up for those people out in the Midwest
• 52:10
  Speaker 1: and they love her yours. Yeah, yeah, she's doing great. Anyway,
• 52:17
  Speaker 1: Thanks for coming on. We will see you December eighteenth
• 52:20
  Speaker 1: at Warner Brothers. Okay, and we're gonna throw it down, man,
• 52:25
  Speaker 1: We're gonna have a good time.
• 52:27
  Speaker 4: My son is probably gonna come down with me, so great.
• 52:31
  Speaker 2: We can get a ticket for him too, Don't worry.
• 52:35
  Speaker 4: Yes, ash okay, now okay.
• 52:39
  Speaker 1: Actually a couple of friends flying in from the East
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: Coast and bringing their kids, and you know, they're getting
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: the VIP treatment, gonna be in the green room and
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: we're gonna hang get the tour to get the Warner
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: Brothers tour because that's so awesome, you know. Yeah, we'll
• 52:54
  Speaker 1: see on the eighteenth. Thanks everybody. Next episode is season one,
• 52:59
  Speaker 1: episode five, Cinnamon's Wake, and uh, we got to do
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: the new sign off. We have a new sign off now,
• 53:06
  Speaker 1: and I keep stumbling on it because I really like
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: the old one and I've done it like hundreds and
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: hundreds of times now we're actually thousands. But the new
• 53:15
  Speaker 1: one is best fans on the planet. I can still
• 53:18
  Speaker 1: say that because that's always going to be true. And
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: where you lead, we will follow.
• 53:23
  Speaker 3: See you next time, everybody, and don't forget Follow
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: Us on Instagram at I Am all In podcast and
• 53:58
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