Latest / Success Story with Scott Clary / Lessons - You’re Building Your Personal Brand Wrong | Jay Jay - CEO of Ace of Spades PR Agency
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- 0:00In this lessons episode, we delve into the world of personal branding.
- 0:03You will learn how building a strong personal brand can differentiate individuals from competitors,
- 0:08attract clients, and enhance credibility. You will also gain valuable insights into the importance
- 0:12of personal branding and how it can also open doors to new opportunities and collaborations.
- 0:16Let's talk about personal brand. Why is it important? Why should an entrepreneur starting
- 0:32a company care about PR for themselves versus their business? And walk me through that and what
- 0:39you've experienced. Okay, cool. Let me ask you a question. Nate, what do you think of why does
- 0:44Gordon Ramsay and Jamie Oliver make so much money as a chef, but the guy at the local steakhouse
- 0:51awesome guy is making 80 grand a year when Gordon and Jamie are making 80 million a year. Why?
- 0:59It's them. It's them. The celebrity brand factor. It's they've been put a lot of marketing,
- 1:05a lot of promotion into and they're built up. Now are they the best chefs? No. Are they a great chef?
- 1:11Absolutely. Are they the best looking guys? No, Gordon Ramsay has definitely got a face for
- 1:17the kitchen. You know, he even says that. Are they? Are they the best spoken? No. It's because they
- 1:22it's to get out or team is to get out. Hey, how do we market this person? How do we take Gordon? How
- 1:29do we take Jamie Oliver? Right? And amplify their message, amplify them as the celebrity or the
- 1:35leading expert in their space. And guess what? They get all the choices. Gordon Ramsay has
- 1:40restaurants around the world, right? Because he's that fate. He's the guy. He's got influence.
- 1:45And I think if people can understand it's okay to get some celebrity aspects to your brand without
- 1:52having to be the JJ or the Gordon Ramsay. You don't have to go to that level, right? But you can
- 1:57do it in your own space to at least be seen with more star power so that you get chosen over the next
- 2:05coach over the next podcaster over the next guy selling real estate. Dude, I'm in Miami. There's,
- 2:12you know, many realtors are in everyone's a real unlimited unlimited realtor is everybody.
- 2:18The population of my amulet that is the amount of real estate deal. Yeah. But the point is why
- 2:23these people getting chosen and not and I think everybody listing one because one thing I had to do
- 2:27was be okay with you're going to take your ego out of it and realize it's not the best. It's not the
- 2:32best website, the product, men, it's sometimes just the person's constantly be seen. They're
- 2:37just promoting, you know? Yeah. And it's the human put the bonnet, right? Absolutely. Yeah, they
- 2:43connect. Yeah. Well, you know, the thing that I do with the people I work with is listen, we can
- 2:48get their attention, right? But how do we make them? How do we keep their attention? And how do we
- 2:53make them keep coming back? It's like we don't want to give you the new plastic surgery look on your
- 2:59face with no personality because you ain't picking up anyone at the bar, right? You look good. Yeah.
- 3:05But where's the soul? Where's your personality? So back to your question. Yeah, it's really important
- 3:10that hairstyle branding as people are really like gravitating towards people who can they can connect
- 3:16twists. And they want to know more than you're a great good looking person with a great product.
- 3:22What is he done his personal life? Is he married? Is he a kid? How can I connect with this guy?
- 3:26Oh, he has a heart. Now I want to invest with you. No, I like him. And he's, and I know I can go on
- 3:32about this for ages, Scott, but an anyone listening, ask yourself this. When you make a decision on
- 3:37something you've bought in the past, maybe an online course or first you work with, ask him, ask
- 3:41yourself, why did you make the decision? And a betcha you didn't go. Well, it was a really cool
- 3:45product. You're probably like, ah, I like the post that he said, wow, he's a family man. I'm a
- 3:50family man. You know, or he went to, you know, he went to the Maldives and I, you know, it could be
- 3:55something small, but it post on brand has a really great way to connect with people. And that's
- 4:00what we want to be a part of. We want to be, we want to be connected. And, and just to take it
- 4:05a step further, if you are classically sales trained, you will know that people buy with emotion
- 4:12and justify with logic. Right. And how do you buy with that? How do you buy? How do you build that
- 4:16emotion? It's with trust. That's where the, the face and the person and the founder and we're
- 4:20talking about real estate and we're talking about people that sell a variety of services online.
- 4:24But even you hear, you know, you look at Elon Musk, you look at, you know, Richard Branson,
- 4:30you look at Gary Vaynerchuk, you look at the people that are enormous business names. But they're,
- 4:36you know, you look at their followings even, you know, you can say, well, Tesla is recognizable.
- 4:41But Elon Musk is the person people listening to. If Elon Musk didn't exist, you think people would
- 4:48care. You think, you think Tesla's stock price would be so volatile if they just followed the
- 4:53Tesla Twitter account and Elon never said anything? No, because it's, it's a person that you're now
- 4:59aligned with. Yeah. Yeah. But, but I think Scott is well suited to bring it back, though,
- 5:04for people to understand is, and this comes up a lot with you clients. They go, well, I'm not,
- 5:09I don't want to be Richard. I don't want to be one. I don't want to. And I get it. I listen,
- 5:14I totally understand. But what you need to do is be okay of understanding how you make decisions.
- 5:20So make it relatable to the person. Oh, I made that because of this. Great. How do we use that same
- 5:25technique, same principles and incorporate that into you as a coach? You, it was a realist. So
- 5:31smaller level, smaller level. Hey, bring us to the go up. Go up a couple of notches, man. Get
- 5:36into the press. Get, get some authority about you. Get some more testimonials, social, like
- 5:40third-party validation, maybe get a Forbes, right? Like if you were to make a decision for a house
- 5:45Scott and there were two real letters on the table, one guy was in Forbes and one guy was a,
- 5:49goes look the same, both cool, both well put together, you're probably choosing the, you're more
- 5:54likely to choose, they're listened to the guy in Forbes because our Forbes is, well, Forbes,
- 5:59he must be someone. So you have the right ability. He has credibility. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
- 6:05So what's this, so let's, let's talk about the strategy to get that story told, right?
- 6:11When you're, when you're building, so I guess it would start from your story as an individual
- 6:17because that's what's going to drive everything, right? That's going to drive the socials,
- 6:19going to drive the, the BR. What, what is that story? I call it, what's your, we play this game,
- 6:23I play games with my clients over time. When they come, if you ever come to my office,
- 6:27Scott, on, on we do this game, we print out a big photo of your face when you come to the office.
- 6:31Um, because I used to be at a detainer, right? So I'm very in the, yeah, when I coach, when I
- 6:36coach and teach, so if anyone, if you ever work with me, anyone, I'm going to take a big
- 6:39photo of your face, like print it and put it on the wall. You come in, you're going to see it,
- 6:44like, okay, great. Who is this guy? First thing we need to do is break down, like who you are,
- 6:49what you do, but what's your vote? Right? So why, if I was the owner, if I was Oprah,
- 6:56we played, I'll ask you, just Scott, if I was Oprah for Ellen, and I'm like, no,
- 7:01actually, let me change it up to you. If I was Richard Branson, and I said, listen, Scott,
- 7:06I left 30 seconds, I've got a checkbook ready to write, but you've got to woo me, you've got to
- 7:12pitch me, you got to, what's your, what's yourself? That's going to be your whole, but what's the
- 7:17full? That's a good one. What's your personal elevator pitch? Yeah, exactly, but a lot of people
- 7:23don't understand that they're not just a business coach, they're not just a real or tough,
- 7:28like, what is the point of difference that makes you different for the media outlets to choose you
- 7:33over everybody else? And this is where, you know, my expertise comes in, but like, that's wanting
- 7:38it's really important. You have to think of like, well, okay, you know that you're amazing,
- 7:45your clients know that you're amazing, but the world doesn't. And they just think you're another
- 7:50coach, they just think you're another guy or another girl. So the first thing we try and do is like,
- 7:56really quickly, how do we find that fault for you? Right? Like, how do we like,
- 8:01why my reforms choose you? Why do they get into what, what's your need here? You know,
- 8:06and take some time. So the first thing would be like, figuring out that unique point of difference,
- 8:12just something so that if there are 10 business coaches in front for false choose, they're merely
- 8:18going like that without, without even knowing your credentials, like that that pitch, oh, that's
- 8:24interesting. So for me, when I was a magician, I'm not a magician. I thought I was cool enough
- 8:28being a magician. No, how the man from down under steals watches from around the world. That's
- 8:35like one little week, right? Or the 57 million dude man steals, you know, when I was doing stuff
- 8:41more for women, like steals your heart and steals your watch. Oh, okay, I'll click on that.
- 8:46So yeah, yeah, coming up with the foot is is is a good start of move for people just like,
- 8:51okay, what do I, how can I be a bit different here? You know, I was doing a problem right here,
- 8:55thrust doctor. And then as you, as you build out that hook,
- 9:02can you give me an example of, can you give me an, so can you give me an example of
- 9:09why Forbes would run a story based on a, on a hook? Is that what they'd look for first? Is that
- 9:14the main thing that drives their first decision? Like, what's the, what's the content? What's the
- 9:20what's the meat? Because everybody, you know, a real estate agent does so many things. They sell
- 9:24homes. What a, they, they show homes, they list on, they sell homes, they'll do the same thing.
- 9:28Right. So what's the, what do you, what do you actually, what's the content? Right, right.
- 9:32So okay, so now we don't just want to be impressed with the story. We want to be led with education
- 9:38and shows that wow, like this person really knows. So Forbes, especially you remember, the publication
- 9:43is business. Forbes isn't a Ted. It isn't like the fifth, 17 minutes of like your unique spin
- 9:50on the world. Forbes is like, business, it's education. So to get into Forbes, they are looking for
- 9:56a unique spin on how maybe you sell homes. Right. And it could be something simple. How
- 10:04Gillian Garcia, right, closes every deal in my army by the one postcard she sends out. Okay.
- 10:13And here are three tips on how you can engage with your people more. That's like an example, right?
- 10:18Yeah. I know it's a lot for people to take on right now, but like every new media outlet,
- 10:23they're always looking for an angle, but they're looking for something that they can, you know,
- 10:27think about what are they once got? They want attention. They struggle with the same thing we need.
- 10:33So the way to, to way to get everyone some moves is like, what do you do? What's something,
- 10:39what's what, why, what makes you a little bit different, right? And then how do you also put
- 10:44that out to the market? And you do that through your personal brand too. Like you're through your
- 10:49social media as well, because that's free. And then all these, all these efforts, they start to
- 10:53compound. But even if you're just getting into the game, obviously, you know, you can, you can,
- 11:00you can leverage a PR agency, but let's assume even a PR agency isn't where you're at right now.
- 11:05It may be expensive and you're just trying to, yeah, don'ts, right? I tell people, listen,
- 11:09you don't need me, right? I said, how do you build those relationships? How the hell do I,
- 11:14I don't know for it? So what am I going to do? You know, go to their contact. That's like,
- 11:17right. That's not something that's doable for many. Okay. He's a, he's a great move, right?
- 11:21I'm, I'm all that moves, right? I want you to go. Yeah. The places where you go every single day,
- 11:25usually that could be a coffee shop, maybe a lunch place, maybe anywhere you interact with someone
- 11:30else that has no emotion, your value on you. Talk your phone out and ask them, hey, Scott,
- 11:35I want to be honest with you. What's up, man? Need your blah, blah. What, looking at my work,
- 11:39what does it look like I do? And ask them this question. And if it's not super clear,
- 11:46that's your first problem. If your messaging is in clear, what do you think the world is knowing
- 11:51about you? And I used to do that all the time when I ran around the world. I was traveling on,
- 11:56hey, what, what do I look like I do? And when there was a, when there wasn't a clear point of like,
- 12:01oh, you do this, they don't have to say you exactly do this, but like you will pluck this, this,
- 12:06then I have to fix it. And as you know, Scott and sale of confused miners in a sold line, right?
- 12:11It's the same thing with life. If they're looking and you're like, well, I, I think he, that's a
- 12:16problem. And the way to fix that is get really pinpoint clear. I'm like, exactly what you do.
- 12:24And exactly how you do it and if you help and that will help you. And that's free. It doesn't
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