Latest / High n' Dry Podcast / Episode 22. Kicking 9/11 Down the Road & Disney's Stitch vs. The Predator (Feat. Nathan Scammell, Author of Escape from Arcadia)
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- 0:15SPEAKER_04: Alright.
- 0:17SPEAKER_01: So where are you located exactly?
- 0:20SPEAKER_01: Like where are you at?
- 0:21SPEAKER_01: Not like not to get your address and hunt you down or anything, but you know.
- 0:24SPEAKER_01: South of England, Eastbourne.
- 0:26SPEAKER_01: Oh, okay.
- 0:27SPEAKER_01: Alright.
- 0:27SPEAKER_01: Very cool.
- 0:28SPEAKER_01: Yeah, nice.
- 0:29SPEAKER_01: What's it like having like ambulances and stuff you could use?
- 0:32SPEAKER_05: Yeah, for free.
- 0:33SPEAKER_05: It's quite good.
- 0:33SPEAKER_05: Quite convenient.
- 0:35SPEAKER_01: That's pretty cool.
- 0:36SPEAKER_01: That's pretty cool.
- 0:36SPEAKER_01: I've never we've never known what that's like over here.
- 0:41SPEAKER_01: We're a third world country with great PR.
- 0:45SPEAKER_03: I uh we do you remember when I had that accident?
- 0:49SPEAKER_03: So I was working in the yard.
- 0:50SPEAKER_03: I used to have a lot of land, and uh my little sister, she got her legs sliced open with like a flat shovel, and uh and we did not call an ambulance, we threw her in the truck and went to the hospital.
- 1:04SPEAKER_01: You gotta do what you gotta do in these mean streets of America.
- 1:08SPEAKER_01: All right, so y'all, you but you guys ready to do this?
- 1:12SPEAKER_01: Ready to get high and drunk?
- 1:13SPEAKER_01: Let's do it.
- 1:14SPEAKER_01: All right, so uh, welcome to high and dry, everybody.
- 1:18SPEAKER_01: Um, I am Ryan Barron North, drunken host of this wonderful little podcast that we keep sending to you every week.
- 1:24SPEAKER_01: Uh with me as always, we have James Crosslin, our resident high philosopher.
- 1:28SPEAKER_01: James, how's it going today?
- 1:29SPEAKER_03: It's going great.
- 1:30SPEAKER_03: It's uh incredibly early.
- 1:32SPEAKER_03: This is gonna be our earliest high and dry recording.
- 1:36SPEAKER_03: Uh, it's going to be a true wake and bake, which is great.
- 1:41SPEAKER_03: I'm very excited for it.
- 1:43SPEAKER_01: Very nice, very nice.
- 1:44SPEAKER_01: Yeah, no, it's great.
- 1:45SPEAKER_01: I love uh I love waking up so early.
- 1:47SPEAKER_01: But you know, we got to break into those uh those uh European markets.
- 1:53SPEAKER_01: So with us today, speaking of European markets, uh Drunken Philosopher, author of upcoming novel Escape from Arcadia, we have Nathan Scammel.
- 2:02SPEAKER_01: Nathan, how are you doing today?
- 2:03SPEAKER_01: Yeah, great.
- 2:04SPEAKER_01: Happy to be here, very excited.
- 2:06SPEAKER_01: Yeah, no, we're happy to have you.
- 2:08SPEAKER_01: Um this is gonna be a good time.
- 2:10SPEAKER_01: So uh why don't you tell us a little bit about yourself?
- 2:12SPEAKER_01: What's going on with this Escape from Arcadia?
- 2:14SPEAKER_05: Yeah, so I've just finished it, finished the first draft.
- 2:18SPEAKER_05: I'll be moving on to the editing stage.
- 2:21SPEAKER_05: And hopefully it will be out within the next couple of months.
- 2:26SPEAKER_01: Sounds good, man.
- 2:27SPEAKER_01: We'll we'll look out for it.
- 2:28SPEAKER_01: Uh, where can we uh where can we find you at?
- 2:31SPEAKER_05: Uh you can find me on Facebook.
- 2:32SPEAKER_05: You can follow my uh page, Nathan Scammel, author is on Facebook.
- 2:36SPEAKER_05: I'm on Instagram, Twitter.
- 2:39SPEAKER_01: Sounds good.
- 2:39SPEAKER_01: All right, well, we'll take a look for that.
- 2:41SPEAKER_01: Well, now that we have you, um let's tell you how this goes.
- 2:44SPEAKER_01: So on High and Dry, we have a uh we start our day off with a philosophical debate, if you will, and then as these things usually devolve, we move into a fist fight.
- 2:54SPEAKER_02: But before we do that, it's my it's my paradise.
- 2:59SPEAKER_01: Before we do that, we gotta get a little drunk and we gotta get a little high.
- 3:02SPEAKER_01: And that's that's what we offer our customers here at uh High and Dry.
- 3:06SPEAKER_01: So first we're starting off with some shots and we're starting off with some hits.
- 3:09SPEAKER_01: Um, James, what are you smoking today?
- 3:12SPEAKER_03: Uh today I'm bringing back an old favorite uh from a Goodreese episode.
- 3:16SPEAKER_03: We got Wowie.
- 3:17SPEAKER_03: Tastes a little bit like pineapple, a little bit like banana, and uh a lot like being high.
- 3:23SPEAKER_03: It's a very powerful one.
- 3:25SPEAKER_01: Very nice, very nice.
- 3:26SPEAKER_01: Um, and so uh Nathan, you're joining us drunken.
- 3:29SPEAKER_01: Uh, what are you drinking today?
- 3:30SPEAKER_05: Um nothing too special, just the old classic Jack Daniels I've got today.
- 3:35SPEAKER_01: Oh, alright, all right.
- 3:36SPEAKER_01: And uh over here I will be uh drinking more of that Pink Whitney.
- 3:40SPEAKER_01: Um 100% sugar with a little bit of alcohol in there.
- 3:44SPEAKER_01: Alcohol sugar?
- 3:46SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it's it's delicious.
- 3:47SPEAKER_02: Organically a sugar.
- 3:49SPEAKER_01: Again, brought to you by Barstool Sports.
- 3:51SPEAKER_01: So, guys, if you want to start sending us some money, that'd be pretty cool.
- 3:53SPEAKER_01: Our first toast goes to Carl Urban and to our newest guest, Nathan Cheers.
- 3:58SPEAKER_05: Thank you.
- 4:04SPEAKER_03: Oh, that's good stuff.
- 4:06SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
- 4:07SPEAKER_03: Sweet.
- 4:07SPEAKER_03: I love how sweet this one is.
- 4:09SPEAKER_03: It's it's got a little bit of that artificial banana taste, though.
- 4:12SPEAKER_03: It's not it's not a true banana taste.
- 4:14SPEAKER_03: It tastes like about like those overly crunchy banana candies.
- 4:20SPEAKER_01: No, it might be one of those like Instagram facts, but don't aren't like the isn't the flavor of bananas that we know of an extinct banana?
- 4:28SPEAKER_03: Yeah, like the candy banana flavor.
- 4:30SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
- 4:30SPEAKER_03: That's what I've heard also is that is that it is a bit more closely resembles an extinct banana because there was like this fungus that killed all the bananas that shared their genetics.
- 4:41SPEAKER_03: Like the way humans farm is a really bad way.
- 4:44SPEAKER_03: Like everything has the same genetics in one type of of produce.
- 4:50SPEAKER_03: And so when there's a when there's an invasive, when there's something that can break it down, some kind of disease for that fruit, we we are fucked as humans, and we have to come up, we have to like quickly genetically engineer another fruit.
- 5:03SPEAKER_01: And we've lost our bananas.
- 5:06SPEAKER_01: So uh yeah, that I just heard that.
- 5:07SPEAKER_01: I wasn't 100% sure.
- 5:09SPEAKER_01: Um so Nathan, how was that, Jack Daniels?
- 5:11SPEAKER_05: Yeah, pretty good.
- 5:14SPEAKER_05: It's quite early for me too.
- 5:15SPEAKER_05: So not as early as you guys, but you know, a bit of uh bit of daytime drinking never at anybody, I think.
- 5:23SPEAKER_05: That's that's what I'm saying.
- 5:24SPEAKER_05: Over here, a bit of morning drinking is never at anybody.
- 5:29SPEAKER_04: Yeah, yeah.
- 5:31SPEAKER_01: Let's get it started right with three shots of alcohol and more to come.
- 5:35SPEAKER_01: Um which brings us into the more to come.
- 5:38SPEAKER_01: So our second shot this week is going out to this one is going to Nashville, Tennessee.
- 5:47SPEAKER_03: Woo, Nashville.
- 5:48SPEAKER_03: Nashville really loves that we have no music, no intro or outro.
- 5:54SPEAKER_03: They're listening so that they can get that big break writing our intro or outro.
- 5:57SPEAKER_03: Nashville, if if you want to provide us an intro, get on the horse.
- 6:01SPEAKER_03: Yeah, go ahead, give us a call.
- 6:03SPEAKER_03: To Nashville, cheers.
- 6:05SPEAKER_03: Home at the Jack Daniels.
- 6:08SPEAKER_02: Yeah, there you go.
- 6:13SPEAKER_03: Did you do Jack Daniels in honor of us, or do you just really like Jack Daniels?
- 6:17SPEAKER_05: Um, it's I've I forgot uh to prepare, so it's what I had in the back of the cupboard.
- 6:24SPEAKER_02: That's how we do it too.
- 6:26SPEAKER_01: Yeah, we've been there.
- 6:27SPEAKER_01: We've been there.
- 6:28SPEAKER_01: I think it was uh two episodes ago.
- 6:30SPEAKER_01: I it was I had Captain Morgan, whatever was left of the vodka, and some mama wama he brought.
- 6:37unknown: Yeah.
- 6:39SPEAKER_01: Any closer to Christmas, it would have been advocat.
- 6:44SPEAKER_01: And uh so for this final one, uh Nathan, what's this one to?
- 6:49SPEAKER_05: Oh shit.
- 6:50SPEAKER_05: Um this one is to you did ask me to prepare.
- 6:54SPEAKER_05: Um we will put this into um I don't know, starvation.
- 7:01SPEAKER_05: Use to starvation.
- 7:02SPEAKER_05: Or the opposite of starvation, you know, like filling people up.
- 7:05SPEAKER_02: I like the first one.
- 7:08SPEAKER_05: Cheers.
- 7:13SPEAKER_03: Ooh, good stuff.
- 7:14SPEAKER_03: Do you see the smoke hanging in the light?
- 7:16SPEAKER_01: I do.
- 7:17SPEAKER_01: Yeah, so uh we're not a video podcast yet, but uh for those at home, the smoke off of James's marijuana is hanging in the air like uh little wisps of it's like a it's like a it's like an ethereal spirit in the in the light passing through my window.
- 7:35SPEAKER_03: It's beautiful.
- 7:36SPEAKER_03: We're just gonna stop.
- 7:38SPEAKER_03: We're gonna not talk for 20 minutes.
- 7:40SPEAKER_03: We're gonna take uh 20 minutes of silence.
- 7:41SPEAKER_03: You imagine you imagine this.
- 7:44SPEAKER_03: We'll meet back up with you.
- 7:47SPEAKER_01: Viewers at home, just uh breathe in through your nose, out through your mouth, and we'll be back with you in 20 minutes.
- 7:53SPEAKER_01: Now it's time to move into our discussion.
- 7:56SPEAKER_01: So for this one, now so this one I've packed it, I have it ready for two parts.
- 8:01SPEAKER_01: Because we're gonna see how it goes, because I have a feeling I know how everyone's gonna answer right out the gate.
- 8:07SPEAKER_01: Sure.
- 8:07SPEAKER_01: Which is why I have a part two.
- 8:09SPEAKER_01: Okay.
- 8:09SPEAKER_01: So the question I have today is if you could go back in time throughout your life and change any one thing, what would you change?
- 8:20SPEAKER_01: Nathan guests first.
- 8:22SPEAKER_01: What would you change?
- 8:24SPEAKER_05: Well, throughout my life or history.
- 8:26SPEAKER_05: Throughout your life.
- 8:27SPEAKER_05: Throughout my life.
- 8:29SPEAKER_05: Is it a personal, a personal if I could change one thing.
- 8:35SPEAKER_05: Um I guess have I got the knowledge, the knowledge of foresight sort of thing.
- 8:41SPEAKER_01: So I mean, so you it's just uh I mean, depending on when you go back, I mean, if you say I want to change this thing when I was a toddler, you'll come back with the cognitive ability you have right now, but then stuffed in the body of that toddler.
- 8:54SPEAKER_05: Oh in that case, I would probably go back um about a week and the right lottery numbers.
- 9:02SPEAKER_05: Perfect.
- 9:02SPEAKER_05: Yeah, there you go.
- 9:03SPEAKER_00: And it really doesn't fuck with your life too much.
- 9:05SPEAKER_03: No.
- 9:06SPEAKER_00: James, thoughts?
- 9:07SPEAKER_03: I like that.
- 9:08SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
- 9:08SPEAKER_03: Are you are you asking what I what I think?
- 9:11SPEAKER_00: Yeah, what I would go back and change.
- 9:12SPEAKER_03: Um so I'll I'll put this in perspective really quick.
- 9:19SPEAKER_03: So I was in seventh grade.
- 9:21SPEAKER_03: It was the beginning of the school year, didn't know what was, you know, what to expect.
- 9:26SPEAKER_03: It was my first year in middle school.
- 9:29SPEAKER_03: They sit me down at like at like 8 a.m.
- 9:33SPEAKER_03: in the morning.
- 9:34SPEAKER_03: I don't I don't remember exactly what time.
- 9:36SPEAKER_03: I was a child.
- 9:38SPEAKER_03: Whatever.
- 9:38SPEAKER_03: They flip on all the TVs and they tell us that a plane hit the World Trade Center.
- 9:45SPEAKER_03: I'm gonna go back to a day before that.
- 9:51SPEAKER_02: I'm gonna try to stop 9-11, which personally affected me.
- 9:55SPEAKER_03: Really fucked up my middle school experience devolving into a security state when I'm asking.
- 10:01SPEAKER_03: You had plans that day?
- 10:05unknown: Okay.
- 10:10SPEAKER_01: So I'm saying so what, you you were what, seventh grade?
- 10:14unknown: Yeah.
- 10:15SPEAKER_00: So this seventh grader comes rushing up to the World Trade Center security desk.
- 10:22SPEAKER_03: No, I'm not going to New York.
- 10:24SPEAKER_03: I can just make a phone call.
- 10:25SPEAKER_03: They have phones.
- 10:25SPEAKER_03: They even have email back then.
- 10:28SPEAKER_03: That's true.
- 10:29SPEAKER_03: Damn.
- 10:30SPEAKER_00: Okay, well, uh I just send out a quick shoot out a quick email.
- 10:37SPEAKER_00: Neat.
- 10:38SPEAKER_00: All right, so so Nathan would go back and get the winning laddo numbers.
- 10:43SPEAKER_05: Actually, I've I've changed my answer now.
- 10:45SPEAKER_05: Can I go back and can I go back and stop him stopping 9-11?
- 10:52SPEAKER_05: Everyone would think I was behind it and my booktails would rock it, you know.
- 10:59SPEAKER_05: From the man who bought you 9-11.
- 11:02SPEAKER_05: Come.
- 11:03SPEAKER_05: Come to escape from my cadence.
- 11:07SPEAKER_00: A foray into fantasy.
- 11:12SPEAKER_03: Listen, if Bush and Rumsfeld and fucking Colin Powell can get away with the Iraq war, you'll get away with 9-11.
- 11:19SPEAKER_03: Don't worry about it.
- 11:22SPEAKER_01: Uh hi everyone.
- 11:23SPEAKER_01: Welcome to our last episode of I and Jack.
- 11:28SPEAKER_05: All right.
- 11:34SPEAKER_02: If Tony Blair's still free, you're gonna be fine.
- 11:38SPEAKER_05: They're still looking for people to blame for it, aren't they?
- 11:42SPEAKER_02: It's just so hilarious.
- 11:43SPEAKER_02: We know who to blame.
- 11:46SPEAKER_01: Oh god.
- 11:47SPEAKER_01: Um, well then, so from my side of it, um, so I I mean, I I mean, I'd be just your basic stuff, investing in uh Microsoft Pokemon for a minute there.
- 11:59SPEAKER_01: Um, you know, uh Bitcoin, I'd buy the shit out of Bitcoin as soon as it came on.
- 12:04SPEAKER_01: Um that sort of thing.
- 12:06SPEAKER_01: Um but so um that was sort of what I thought.
- 12:10SPEAKER_01: I mean, so there there's uh there's it's a kind of a therapeutical technique for people who are dealing with guilt or regret or remorse or things like that, where uh you'll be asked, all right, so what would you change?
- 12:22SPEAKER_01: And oftentimes like I wouldn't say that one thing that led to this, or I wouldn't, you know, that sort of thing.
- 12:27SPEAKER_01: And you'll find that all you're doing right there is kicking the can down the road, um as far as like a lesson is concerned, that you had to learn as a person in order to mature and not make that mistake in the future.
- 12:41SPEAKER_01: So um instead of changing some big personal thing, however, as I kind of assumed, we all just did some basics and changed.
- 12:48SPEAKER_00: Didn't see that coming.
- 12:50SPEAKER_01: Changing your life but so the the premise here um is that whatever you change, I mean, it's going to irrevocably change your life.
- 13:00SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 13:01SPEAKER_03: That's right.
- 13:02SPEAKER_03: That that Wednesday or whatever.
- 13:04SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it's gone.
- 13:05SPEAKER_01: Um so I mean, everything that you've done, I mean, James, you're married, Nathan, you married, kids, anything like that?
- 13:11SPEAKER_01: I've got kids, yeah.
- 13:12SPEAKER_01: I mean, it would, I mean, who knows what would become of them.
- 13:16SPEAKER_01: I mean, if you changed any one little thing in your past.
- 13:18SPEAKER_01: And so I feel that healthy individuals on the road to their life, like, I'm not changing anything except 9-11.
- 13:26SPEAKER_02: We could have, we could have maybe not had a rise of the very far right in the United States.
- 13:31SPEAKER_02: We could have or we could have been kicking the can down the road.
- 13:34SPEAKER_01: Look, nationalism is cyclical.
- 13:37SPEAKER_05: Just gotta live with it.
- 13:38SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
- 13:42SPEAKER_01: Yeah, we could have just kicked it down the road.
- 13:45SPEAKER_01: Hitler would have showed up again, he would have descended the escalator.
- 13:49SPEAKER_01: Um, but anyway, um, my question now, the part two of it, is you have been against your will sent back in time.
- 14:01SPEAKER_01: You've now taken over the body of your, we'll say to stop you stopping 9-11, we'll say you've taken over the body of your 15-year-old self.
- 14:13SPEAKER_01: With the knowledge you have now, with uh everything as it is, you know that you you're gonna get married in your future, you're gonna have kids eventually.
- 14:21SPEAKER_01: How do you survive this?
- 14:25SPEAKER_01: What do you do when you go back in time?
- 14:26SPEAKER_01: Nathan, you're up first.
- 14:28SPEAKER_01: Oof, that's uh it's uh it's a big question.
- 14:31SPEAKER_05: Uh yeah, no, I'm flipping an on you.
- 14:35SPEAKER_05: I uh oh, I don't know.
- 14:37SPEAKER_05: I I would have to try and live it the same uh way in order to get the kids because I couldn't, you know.
- 14:48SPEAKER_05: But I'm like I'm screaming like no, do do it different, do things different.
- 14:52SPEAKER_05: But um I've got things differently.
- 14:55SPEAKER_05: So I would I would probably get as far as um when my daughter was born, which is about five years ago, and then I would go different and I don't know, try and focus on my more creative side earlier than I have in this life now.
- 15:09SPEAKER_05: I mean I'm I'm getting old, 31.
- 15:12SPEAKER_05: And um you poor guy, you're we're all the same age, yeah.
- 15:17SPEAKER_05: We're all exactly earlier rather than I mean, I was like a supermarket manager and I hated it for 10 years.
- 15:29SPEAKER_05: Um I wasn't a manager for 10 years, but I was in the supermarket for 10 years, and you know, I'd I would have done anything to get out.
- 15:36SPEAKER_01: So yeah.
- 15:37SPEAKER_01: Well, I mean, I mean eventually, I mean, maybe one day your daughter can listen to this.
- 15:41SPEAKER_01: Um, would you stay at the supermarket for her sake?
- 15:44SPEAKER_01: I would, yeah, yeah.
- 15:45SPEAKER_05: And then uh, well, I don't know, because not hold on for her sake.
- 15:50SPEAKER_05: Um being at the supermarket had sort of no influence on, you know.
- 15:55SPEAKER_05: I I didn't start a job at Astra and think I know I think a daughter would be good right now.
- 16:00SPEAKER_05: Um kind of happened outside of the supermarket, yeah.
- 16:04SPEAKER_05: So I it was um that it didn't happen in the supermarket.
- 16:08SPEAKER_05: Come on.
- 16:08SPEAKER_05: Yeah, it was uh closing time down the frozen aisle.
- 16:12SPEAKER_05: Um, I forgot what we were talking about.
- 16:17SPEAKER_02: Um yes.
- 16:21SPEAKER_05: That's that booze where I get in India.
- 16:24SPEAKER_05: So yeah.
- 16:27SPEAKER_05: I would I would probably the event that kind of led to my daughter was meeting, I suppose, my ex-wife in university, so I'd still go to the university I went to and still do that bit.
- 16:38SPEAKER_01: Um wait, so you're a you're a divorced 31-year-old also?
- 16:42SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 16:43SPEAKER_01: Cheers, I'm a divorced 31-year-old.
- 16:45SPEAKER_01: No, I think I'm gonna have a shot to that.
- 16:48SPEAKER_01: Yeah, cheers, bud.
- 16:50SPEAKER_01: I know the struggle.
- 16:52SPEAKER_03: I'll watch you.
- 16:54SPEAKER_03: I'll watch you both.
- 16:56SPEAKER_03: To divorce.
- 17:00SPEAKER_03: Good job.
- 17:00SPEAKER_03: Good job, uh, you know, approaching it healthily and just drinking.
- 17:04SPEAKER_03: Drinking it really.
- 17:07SPEAKER_00: Yeah, shout out to divorcees drinking through it everywhere.
- 17:13SPEAKER_01: Well, uh, so James, you've just been forcefully placed back into your 15-year-old self.
- 17:18SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 17:19SPEAKER_01: Oh, yeah, that was the question.
- 17:20SPEAKER_01: I'll forgot.
- 17:23SPEAKER_03: Where am I?
- 17:25SPEAKER_03: So here's my problem.
- 17:29SPEAKER_03: I forget things.
- 17:31SPEAKER_03: Uh basically what I'm looking forward to is a life of being like, uh, what fucking decision did I make right here?
- 17:43SPEAKER_02: Like, you know, my whole life of me being like, oh no, how was I supposed to react?
- 17:48SPEAKER_03: Your friends keep saying, why the fuck is he saying that all the time?
- 17:51SPEAKER_03: I would be like a ball of like anxiety all the time.
- 17:54SPEAKER_03: I would I would probably fail.
- 17:56SPEAKER_03: No matter what, I don't think I'd remember everything I needed to do to get to where I was.
- 18:01SPEAKER_03: And um, and so I think I'd have to call it a watch.
- 18:05SPEAKER_03: As much as I I think my wife would understand.
- 18:08SPEAKER_03: I would understand if she got sent back to pepper sprays the shit out of you.
- 18:11SPEAKER_03: I feel if I feel if she got sent back to her 15-year-old body and then was expected to be like, you have to relive your fucking life in every single, every single step you've taken.
- 18:21SPEAKER_03: Good luck remembering all those things.
- 18:25SPEAKER_03: I I feel like she knows that I would give her leniency.
- 18:28SPEAKER_03: So I would expect that also.
- 18:30SPEAKER_03: And it's like just it's just kind of like, I don't know how I'm gonna do it.
- 18:34SPEAKER_03: Could you imagine being I'd just go live another life and I'd be like, wow, that was amazing.
- 18:38SPEAKER_03: I'm so glad I had that time with Sarah.
- 18:42SPEAKER_02: Just whistle whistle on a whistle on away.
- 18:44SPEAKER_00: Could you imagine being a young woman?
- 18:46SPEAKER_00: You know, and uh all of a sudden this strange man's like, look, you don't know me, but we get married and we're really happy.
- 18:53SPEAKER_03: You owe me.
- 18:55SPEAKER_03: No, we're still children too.
- 18:56SPEAKER_03: Like we're the we put got put back in our bodies, so we're not an old man.
- 19:00SPEAKER_00: No, I'm saying that's what I'm saying.
- 19:01SPEAKER_00: A young woman is approached on the street, like, look, you don't know me yet, but we we had a really happy life.
- 19:07SPEAKER_00: And you owe me.
- 19:08SPEAKER_00: You said you'd be understanding.
- 19:11SPEAKER_00: Perfect.
- 19:12SPEAKER_01: No, that's my pickup line at bars.
- 19:14SPEAKER_01: It works sometimes, all of the time.
- 19:19SPEAKER_01: So, what about you, Ryan?
- 19:21SPEAKER_01: Um, so yeah, for me, I'd uh so I don't remember pretty much anything beyond the past six years.
- 19:31SPEAKER_01: So I'd be screwed.
- 19:34SPEAKER_01: I'm just gonna go, I'm gonna go all in on I know what's gonna happen.
- 19:40SPEAKER_01: Um like uh I'm going all in.
- 19:43SPEAKER_01: Like my life will never be the same.
- 19:46SPEAKER_01: I at one point I'll probably try the hey, you don't know me, but yeah.
- 19:51SPEAKER_03: So you have to remember that you're going back so early that as soon as you start changing things, they can affect later things.
- 19:58SPEAKER_03: Oh yeah, the world's so what you know can very rapidly become wrong.
- 20:03SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
- 20:03SPEAKER_01: If you start changing shit early.
- 20:05SPEAKER_01: Uh-huh.
- 20:06SPEAKER_01: Oh yeah.
- 20:06SPEAKER_01: No, uh, yeah, Tom Brady suffers a fatal heart attack um from KFC.
- 20:13SPEAKER_01: Um I can't even bet on him.
- 20:16SPEAKER_01: Um, oh yeah, no, uh oh yeah, Pokemon is just gone.
- 20:20SPEAKER_01: Bitcoin flops, all because this one teenager tried to stop 9-11.
- 20:27SPEAKER_01: Sorry.
- 20:29SPEAKER_01: So I bet I think that's my answer.
- 20:31SPEAKER_01: I'm going all in.
- 20:32SPEAKER_01: You know, I'm I'm just uh because I mean the premise of it, you know, says that I have you still haven't learned anything.
- 20:39SPEAKER_02: The point of this thought experiment was to make you learn something and you didn't learn what you were supposed to learn.
- 20:44SPEAKER_01: No.
- 20:45SPEAKER_01: Well, but I think you what what I did learn was absurdism is the answer.
- 20:52SPEAKER_01: And none of this matters because at any day I could be shoved back in time.
- 20:57SPEAKER_01: Um I was divorced then.
- 20:59SPEAKER_01: I'm nothing now.
- 21:00SPEAKER_01: So the world is your plaything, and people are just pawns.
- 21:04SPEAKER_01: So fuck it.
- 21:05SPEAKER_01: I'm going all in.
- 21:08SPEAKER_01: Um, yeah, but I mean, I'm I'm doing every back in time trope.
- 21:12SPEAKER_01: I'm gonna own my high school talent show.
- 21:14SPEAKER_01: Try to fuck your mom.
- 21:17SPEAKER_01: I'm gonna become my own grandpa.
- 21:20SPEAKER_01: Um I'm doing it all.
- 21:23SPEAKER_03: You fight your dad's bully.
- 21:27SPEAKER_01: But I mean, at that time he is my dad.
- 21:30SPEAKER_01: So I'm this toddler.
- 21:32SPEAKER_01: And I also feel that my parents would be freaked the fuck out because they're like, What did you do at school today?
- 21:40SPEAKER_01: I contemplated my own existence and uh just you know, I'm trapped in this cyclical cycle, just just you know, and they're like, Wait, what?
- 21:48SPEAKER_03: I got thrown back in time at 31.
- 21:51SPEAKER_00: It wasn't a great life.
- 21:52SPEAKER_00: Yeah, uh, you both of you, we got some words.
- 21:55SPEAKER_00: You both let me down.
- 21:58SPEAKER_00: Some good and some bad.
- 22:00SPEAKER_01: I'm not I'm dreading doing it again.
- 22:02SPEAKER_01: Yeah, could you uh so I mean, so Nathan, you have a child.
- 22:04SPEAKER_01: Could you imagine your daughter one day walking up to you and she's like, I blame my divorce entirely on you.
- 22:11SPEAKER_01: She probably wouldn't be wrong.
- 22:22SPEAKER_01: You're like you went back in time, didn't you?
- 22:24SPEAKER_03: It's like yeah.
- 22:26SPEAKER_03: Yeah, thrown back into your body by a wizard and been there.
- 22:29SPEAKER_00: I know how that is.
- 22:31SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
- 22:32SPEAKER_01: Oh, so on that note, it's time to transfer over to our fist fight.
- 22:37SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 22:37SPEAKER_01: It's time to transfer into the fist fight.
- 22:39SPEAKER_01: We have an exciting one.
- 22:40SPEAKER_01: I am.
- 22:41SPEAKER_01: Get some of this fucking pathos out.
- 22:43SPEAKER_01: I'm I'm so I am so excited for this one.
- 22:45SPEAKER_01: I think there's even references to this joke in the earlier episodes.
- 22:49SPEAKER_01: And Nathan, I'm happy that you're here with us for this one.
- 22:52SPEAKER_01: I'm a huge fan of the predator, and I can't see I cannot wait to see him kick the shit out of a little Muppet.
- 22:59SPEAKER_01: We're gonna see.
- 23:01SPEAKER_01: So today we have The Predator.
- 23:03SPEAKER_01: That's Arnold Schwarzenegger's The Predator versus Stitch.
- 23:08SPEAKER_01: Experiment 626.
- 23:10SPEAKER_01: Um is that DreamWorks Disney?
- 23:11SPEAKER_01: Who who is that?
- 23:13SPEAKER_01: Pretty sure it's Disney.
- 23:14SPEAKER_00: Is it Disney?
- 23:15SPEAKER_00: Is it all right?
- 23:16SPEAKER_03: Well I'm almost I'm fairly certain it's Disney.
- 23:20SPEAKER_03: But there was no racist overtones or anything.
- 23:23SPEAKER_03: Well, I mean it did depict I don't know if the it might have been a little racist about Hawaiians.
- 23:29SPEAKER_03: You'd have to ask Hawaii.
- 23:30SPEAKER_03: I wouldn't know.
- 23:31SPEAKER_01: Yeah, no, I wouldn't either.
- 23:33SPEAKER_01: Nathan?
- 23:33SPEAKER_01: No idea.
- 23:35SPEAKER_02: You know any Hawaiians?
- 23:37SPEAKER_02: I don't know anyone.
- 23:38SPEAKER_02: No, it's funny because good.
- 23:40SPEAKER_05: Um Elvis used to sing there.
- 23:43SPEAKER_05: I don't know.
- 23:43SPEAKER_05: He used to wear his little flowery thing, didn't he?
- 23:45SPEAKER_05: So I actually noticed that you have a lot of Elvis paraphernalia, wouldn't you?
- 23:51SPEAKER_01: Yeah?
- 23:51SPEAKER_01: You an Elvis guy?
- 23:53SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
- 23:54SPEAKER_01: Sounds pretty cool.
- 23:55SPEAKER_01: That's pretty cool.
- 23:56SPEAKER_03: Um I don't know much about Elvis, but yes, I do know that he played a guitar in Hawaii.
- 24:03SPEAKER_01: Stitch did show up as Elvis once, didn't he?
- 24:05SPEAKER_03: Yes, and playing a guitar in Hawaii.
- 24:07SPEAKER_05: There we go.
- 24:09SPEAKER_05: History repeating himself.
- 24:10SPEAKER_05: Perhaps that's Elvis going back in time.
- 24:12SPEAKER_02: Yeah, cyclical Elvis.
- 24:16SPEAKER_02: The rise and fall of the cyclical rise and fall of Elvis.
- 24:20SPEAKER_00: Today's episode brought to you by the word cyclical.
- 24:26SPEAKER_01: Alright, so on High and Dry, we have a patented method for determining which of your favorite characters are going to kill the other one.
- 24:33SPEAKER_01: It takes place in three rounds.
- 24:35SPEAKER_01: Round one, these characters jump into a fight club style ring while Brad Pitt judges and the High and Dry crew with Carl Urban look on from the box seats, where they take off their shirts, their shoes, their belts, and they just beat the shit out of each other until one of them isn't moving anymore.
- 24:52SPEAKER_01: Round two zooms out into a city view where these characters have received a manila envelope under their apartments or non-traditional housing family door unit.
- 25:02SPEAKER_01: And they now know that they have to kill the other one to survive the night.
- 25:07SPEAKER_01: Round three is the same situation as round two, except this time they get to bring a friend.
- 25:14SPEAKER_01: So let's get it on.
- 25:16SPEAKER_01: But before we do that, we shouldn't get it on just yet.
- 25:19SPEAKER_01: Before we do that, it's time for the final shot of the episode, final hit of the episode.
- 25:23SPEAKER_01: Hooray.
- 25:27SPEAKER_01: Here's to the predator, and here's to Stitch.
- 25:30SPEAKER_01: Let's do it.
- 25:31SPEAKER_01: Cheers.
- 25:32SPEAKER_05: Cheers.
- 25:38unknown: Oh yeah.
- 25:40SPEAKER_03: I started it was just daylight savings time.
- 25:45SPEAKER_03: So fucking it's like it's like seven o'clock yesterday morning.
- 25:54SPEAKER_02: I'm fucking ripped.
- 25:58SPEAKER_01: Yeah, so um, yeah, I mean, um high and dry has gone global now.
- 26:02SPEAKER_01: And for uh the high and dry group, James and myself just hitting daylight savings time.
- 26:09SPEAKER_01: It's seven in the morning.
- 26:11SPEAKER_02: It would have been last week, seven in the morning.
- 26:14SPEAKER_02: I haven't even adjusted yet.
- 26:16SPEAKER_01: I got shit to do today.
- 26:21SPEAKER_01: All right, so round one.
- 26:24SPEAKER_01: Stitch has just jumped in the ring um with the predator.
- 26:29SPEAKER_01: Um, they have none of their objects.
- 26:32SPEAKER_01: So the predator, he's he's taken off his wrist gauntlet.
- 26:35SPEAKER_01: Um, he's just you know clicking at Stitch, um, who is also shirtless and does not have his Elvis gear, has no Elvis gear.
- 26:44SPEAKER_01: Um and they're just about to beat the shit out of each other.
- 26:48SPEAKER_01: Nathan, guests first, who's gonna win?
- 26:52SPEAKER_05: Uh I well, I you know the answer is probably obvious.
- 26:57SPEAKER_05: I'm gonna try and throw a different argument on it in that the predator will let his guard down quite a lot because Stitch is quite a cute little thing, and he will see him more as a puppy.
- 27:11SPEAKER_05: And I don't think I know Predator is all about the killing and stuff, but I don't think he could look Stitch in the eye and smush him.
- 27:18SPEAKER_05: Uh I don't I think he's got too much of a heart for that.
- 27:21SPEAKER_03: And you know the Predator, classically.
- 27:24SPEAKER_05: Um I think I think Stitch is gonna use that to his advantage, uh because he's quite manipulative.
- 27:31SPEAKER_05: He is, he is very manipulative.
- 27:34SPEAKER_05: He plays on it, you know?
- 27:35SPEAKER_05: He's like, oh, look how cute I am, look how fluffy I am.
- 27:37SPEAKER_05: He does know how cute he is, and then like he has like claws.
- 27:39SPEAKER_01: So you're saying that we're going to see in this fight the Stitch cuddling up on the predator.
- 27:46SPEAKER_05: Yeah, and then when the predators let his guard down is when Stitch strikes.
- 27:53SPEAKER_05: I love it.
- 27:54SPEAKER_03: I love it.
- 27:55SPEAKER_03: James, thoughts?
- 27:57SPEAKER_03: Uh I I also agree that Stitch is gonna win this one, but for different reasons, I do like that we brought up that he is manipulatively cute, uh, because he is.
- 28:08SPEAKER_03: It seems like it seems like no one, even the people who are chasing him down, can really resist his cuteness when they get close.
- 28:14SPEAKER_03: Uh I he's he's built as like a super weapon.
- 28:17SPEAKER_03: He is a super weapon experiment, and you don't think one of that that super weapon's powers is gonna be um affecting the minds of people in some way?
- 28:26SPEAKER_03: Like if you're gonna build a weapon, you need and you need infiltration or something, being able to like control minds and have people believe things about you.
- 28:35SPEAKER_03: One, that you are cute, even though he is this monster, like Stitch is a monster, and everyone's like, ah, he's so cute.
- 28:43SPEAKER_03: Disney needs to sell Stitch, so and um I think he may actually have that power.
- 28:49SPEAKER_03: He who knows?
- 28:50SPEAKER_03: Stitch has like so many powers.
- 28:52SPEAKER_03: Um, and anyway, even off of that, uh Stitch is like a mutable form alien god, and the predator is still a sack of bones and flesh.
- 29:04SPEAKER_03: And I think I think twidge I I think Stitch would uh would shape his body into a muscly mouth version of himself and just swallow the predator.
- 29:16SPEAKER_01: Well, so that's what that's where I will have to defer with both of you.
- 29:22SPEAKER_01: Um I think that if the predator is on Earth with Stitch in a fist fight, he was sent here on a hunt.
- 29:29SPEAKER_01: Um I I think and we've seen that Stitch, you know, he's gonna try and like I love and the predator's like, dude, I was literally sent here to hunt you.
- 29:42SPEAKER_01: And he's gonna be like, no, and just snap his neck.
- 29:45SPEAKER_01: Or like because when Stitch is in his cute mode, uh, I think he's gonna snatch him up and like spin him around like a chicken.
- 29:54SPEAKER_03: I think I'm gonna disagree with you.
- 29:55SPEAKER_03: I just need to bring up there is precedence that predator does not kill his targets.
- 30:01SPEAKER_03: There is precedence that predators gain some connection to their targets and then don't kill them.
- 30:07SPEAKER_01: Well, so the only thing I would I would defer again um so alright, so the the predator nerd in me is gonna come out today, I tell you that much.
- 30:19SPEAKER_01: Um so this predator, he's been sent down to Earth.
- 30:22SPEAKER_01: He's like, you know, he knows that he's coming to this planet.
- 30:25SPEAKER_01: Remember, this is basement.
- 30:26SPEAKER_01: This is a basement.
- 30:27SPEAKER_01: Well, he's he knows that he's coming to this planet to hunt 626, and now he's found himself in a fist fight.
- 30:33SPEAKER_01: And uh what what so Stitch, I think, is distracted by those emotions that he was denied as being experiment 626.
- 30:44SPEAKER_01: And he he desires family, he wants to be hugged by this little girl.
- 30:48SPEAKER_01: The predator has no such weakness.
- 30:52SPEAKER_03: I disagree.
- 30:52SPEAKER_03: Their entire culture is based around this, around expectations of you doing this hunting thing.
- 30:57SPEAKER_03: That's he's connecting.
- 31:00SPEAKER_03: This is about connection.
- 31:01SPEAKER_01: This is about family for the predator, also.
- 31:03SPEAKER_01: But his connection is I gotta kill this little creature.
- 31:07SPEAKER_01: So, in my opinion, I don't think it matters what sort of googly eyes this thing gives him.
- 31:13SPEAKER_01: The predator is gonna start stretch, scratching, clawing, and just killing as fast as he can.
- 31:19SPEAKER_01: Um, the the only thing where I could see Stitch probably taking this one is because the predator um in fist fights like we saw with Arnold Schwarzenegger, or we we saw in The Predators later on, they where they recreated the the fist fights with like Billy and stuff like that.
- 31:37SPEAKER_01: Um he has not developed any sort of respect for his prey.
- 31:41SPEAKER_01: But I also think that might push further the predator to just go totally vicious on this thing.
- 31:47SPEAKER_01: Um, but so Nathan, we're gonna bring it back to you.
- 31:50SPEAKER_01: Uh, your final thoughts and a vote.
- 31:53SPEAKER_05: Um although you do raise a good argument.
- 31:57SPEAKER_05: I I'm gonna go with Stitch still.
- 32:01SPEAKER_05: I think why is that?
- 32:02SPEAKER_05: I I I just think that the manipulation and he's far more vicious than he looks on the outside, you know.
- 32:09SPEAKER_05: He's like a cuddly ball of fur, but you know, at the same time, he's a bit of a dick.
- 32:14SPEAKER_05: And he's a dick, just a bit of a dick.
- 32:17SPEAKER_05: Yeah, and he will use his, you know, the manipulation, his cuteness, and his claws to his advantage.
- 32:26SPEAKER_03: Succinctly put.
- 32:28SPEAKER_03: James?
- 32:29SPEAKER_03: I I agree.
- 32:30SPEAKER_03: I agree, and you know, it Stitch has like teeth that can bite through metal, and he can lift it like a fucking airplane or something, and the predator just can't do that.
- 32:40SPEAKER_03: The predator just is not that strong.
- 32:42SPEAKER_03: Stitch is just a he was created as a weapon.
- 32:45SPEAKER_03: He has all these um, he has like these super powers, and the predator is an alien who is very good at at killing other aliens, but not a super being.
- 32:56SPEAKER_03: That's just my thought.
- 32:57SPEAKER_03: That I that's where I land.
- 32:59SPEAKER_01: Um and and then finally, um my vote magically changes to Stitch.
- 33:06SPEAKER_01: But honestly, I think it was gonna go that any that way anyway.
- 33:09SPEAKER_01: Um, however, I think it's gonna be very different in round two where the predator has full access to a hunting ground.
- 33:15SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 33:15SPEAKER_01: Um, so I I do think that um the predator, because I mean, every time we see the predator jump into a fist fight, he's being a dick about it.
- 33:24SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 33:24SPEAKER_01: You know, he's like, let's see what you got.
- 33:27SPEAKER_03: And then Hubris is the predator's downfall.
- 33:30SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
- 33:30SPEAKER_01: Um meanwhile, Stitch is just trying to defend Nani.
- 33:36SPEAKER_01: And um, so I think, yeah, the Predator is gonna fall in that initial initial go.
- 33:41SPEAKER_01: So Stitch takes round one, which moves us into round two.
- 33:46SPEAKER_01: So these characters have now zoomed out into a city view.
- 33:50SPEAKER_01: This is I mean, this is pretty easy.
- 33:52SPEAKER_01: The predator jumps down, he's he's dropped into Hawaii to go hunt a new thing being Stitch.
- 34:02SPEAKER_01: You know, who's trying to start a family.
- 34:06SPEAKER_02: Predator is not super sympathetic here.
- 34:09SPEAKER_01: Nope, no, so this might change the game.
- 34:12SPEAKER_01: So, Nathan, guests first, round two.
- 34:14SPEAKER_01: Who do you think's gonna win?
- 34:16SPEAKER_05: Alright, so just to get straight, the premises they've received a manila envelope with the instructions you must kill State.
- 34:25SPEAKER_05: You must kill the other one.
- 34:26SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
- 34:27SPEAKER_05: Uh I'm gonna go with it's pretty standard for the predator.
- 34:31SPEAKER_03: Daily for the predator.
- 34:33SPEAKER_03: Time to go on a hunt, I guess.
- 34:35SPEAKER_05: I'm gonna go.
- 34:36SPEAKER_05: Uh yeah, I think I'm gonna have to side with Predator this time because he's got, you know, his full arsenal.
- 34:45SPEAKER_05: Although Stitch got his little guns.
- 34:49SPEAKER_05: Um I think Stitch would be behind because he'd need someone to read the paper for him.
- 34:56SPEAKER_05: Solid point.
- 34:57SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
- 34:58SPEAKER_05: But then again, he could use Elvis as a decoy, and yeah.
- 35:02SPEAKER_01: He does have access to his gear.
- 35:10SPEAKER_01: Maybe this is how Elvis died, you know.
- 35:13SPEAKER_05: That's how Elvis died.
- 35:14SPEAKER_03: That's how Elvis got thrown back in time into the body of a child.
- 35:19SPEAKER_05: Um, I think yeah, Predator will probably uh chase him down.
- 35:23SPEAKER_05: And although he's quite dull, Stitch might have the idea of covering himself in mud like Arnie did, but you know he's just naturally covered in mud because he's a dog.
- 35:34SPEAKER_03: Okay.
- 35:35SPEAKER_03: All right, all right.
- 35:36SPEAKER_03: Uh James, thoughts.
- 35:38SPEAKER_03: So this is really tough because Stitch has precedence for fighting aliens coming to hunt him, like he specifically in his movies is precedence for that.
- 35:49SPEAKER_03: For an intergalactic warrior with a hyper advanced space traveling and fighting technology.
- 35:56SPEAKER_03: Well, I mean, they're trying to apprehend him.
- 35:59SPEAKER_03: Predator is trying to rip his spine out.
- 36:01SPEAKER_03: That's true.
- 36:01SPEAKER_03: They are trying to apprehend him, and Predator is trying to kill him.
- 36:04SPEAKER_03: But there is precedence here, which I thought is very funny.
- 36:07SPEAKER_03: I didn't realize at first.
- 36:11SPEAKER_03: Um the problem is uh we we don't know the extent of Stitch's powers.
- 36:19SPEAKER_03: We don't know what all Stitch can do because Stitch is uh he's like all uh he was an experiment, and they were like, this thing has all these powers, and we don't fucking know.
- 36:30SPEAKER_03: And so he's basically a I can do anything uh kind of character.
- 36:36SPEAKER_03: Except except speak without an impediment.
- 36:41SPEAKER_03: That's his only thing he can't do.
- 36:47SPEAKER_03: Um so I think I think that's what would happen.
- 36:51SPEAKER_03: I think Stitch's dedication to a bit would be his downfall.
- 36:56SPEAKER_03: I cause because that's what Stitch is really doing there.
- 36:59SPEAKER_03: He's doing a fucking bit because he can change it.
- 37:01SPEAKER_03: We know he can change it.
- 37:03SPEAKER_03: He's doing a bit, and Predator is very singularly focused, and then Stitch comes out in his Elvis gear, and then Predator blasts him with his arm cannon.
- 37:18SPEAKER_01: Wait, wait, wait.
- 37:19SPEAKER_00: So you're fighting for Predator, right?
- 37:20SPEAKER_03: Because you sounded like you were going towards Stitch, and then he gets blasted by an arm cannon.
- 37:25SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I think I honestly think I I switched halfway through there.
- 37:29SPEAKER_03: I originally came in and I was like, Stitch is so powerful, but also when you put Stitch in environment in an environment, his whole character is a bit.
- 37:37SPEAKER_03: Yeah, his whole character is a bit of a very cute thing who doesn't understand what's going on around it, but is also very powerful.
- 37:44SPEAKER_03: But again, like you said, those aliens were coming to apprehend him, not kill him.
- 37:47SPEAKER_03: And they got the jump on him, they captured Stitch at one point.
- 37:51SPEAKER_03: If you can capture Stitch, you could probably kill Stitch if you know how to kill him.
- 37:55SPEAKER_03: You know?
- 37:55SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
- 37:56SPEAKER_03: I'd say Predator would have come at least with some knowledge on how to kill Stitch.
- 37:59SPEAKER_01: So well, and then for me, I I I definitely think that the Predator, he's gonna drop down onto this human world.
- 38:08SPEAKER_01: I mean, he's got a crew that's been here before, they've told him about it.
- 38:11SPEAKER_01: Um, I mean, 87, you had the one drop down, then in Danny Glover had all those ones drop down.
- 38:21SPEAKER_01: Danny Glover beat the predator.
- 38:25SPEAKER_01: That's true.
- 38:26SPEAKER_01: But um, I I would say, well, what I think would happen is I think that the predator would drop down.
- 38:32SPEAKER_01: The Stitch at this point, he knows that the Predator's coming, but he's super concerned about his family.
- 38:40SPEAKER_01: And I just think that the uh you know that sort of dichotomy and what they're concerned about with the predator, he's singly, singularly focused.
- 38:50SPEAKER_01: Where Stitch, his mind's all over the place.
- 38:53SPEAKER_01: And I think just invisibility mixed with a shoulder cannon, a spinning glaive, a thrown spear.
- 39:02SPEAKER_01: You know, really you pick his weapon.
- 39:04SPEAKER_01: Um, and I think that's just gonna be a little too much to handle.
- 39:07SPEAKER_01: And what I think is gonna happen is that it's gonna be Predator 5, this Hawaiian family whose alien was just killed versus the predator.
- 39:17SPEAKER_01: And I think the predator's gonna take it.
- 39:19SPEAKER_01: Um So there we go.
- 39:21SPEAKER_01: I think we got all.
- 39:22SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I mean, I think we're good.
- 39:23SPEAKER_01: Nathan, your vote?
- 39:24SPEAKER_01: Yeah, predator.
- 39:26SPEAKER_01: James, predator?
- 39:27SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I think like 60 out of a hundred times, predator would win.
- 39:32SPEAKER_03: And it and that that advantage would be because Stitch was too busy doing a bit.
- 39:37SPEAKER_03: I think that's what it is.
- 39:38SPEAKER_03: I think I think it's like it's almost perfectly split, and then he gets the advantage because Stitch is just distractable.
- 39:43SPEAKER_01: Yeah, no, I mean Predator doesn't care about family ticket sales.
- 39:48SPEAKER_01: Stitch does.
- 39:50SPEAKER_01: Oh, yeah, so yeah, for me as well, the predator.
- 39:52SPEAKER_01: So round one has gone to Stitch, round two has gone to the predator, which brings us into round three, and now these characters get to bring a friend.
- 40:04SPEAKER_01: So this one's a little tricky.
- 40:07SPEAKER_01: Nathan, who do you think is gonna bring?
- 40:09SPEAKER_01: What do you think is gonna happen?
- 40:11SPEAKER_05: Um, I would say that uh Stitch would probably bring his friend Walt, as in Walt Disney, who would buy the he'd buy the Predator franchise and turn him into a tinker and kill it that way.
- 40:27SPEAKER_05: Yeah, and just like he'll release sequel after sequel after sequel, and just slowly Predator will die.
- 40:33SPEAKER_05: And we'll hate it.
- 40:35SPEAKER_05: Everyone will hate it.
- 40:36SPEAKER_02: You know, that's kind of he kind of didn't have to do that.
- 40:39SPEAKER_02: All he had to do was hide and let it happen.
- 40:41SPEAKER_01: Yeah, Predator's been doing that all on its own.
- 40:47SPEAKER_01: Um, I will say, um, say what you want about Adrian Brody, but he he had the last good Predator movie.
- 40:53SPEAKER_01: Topher Grace was a good was a good character.
- 40:55SPEAKER_01: That was out of nowhere.
- 40:57SPEAKER_01: That was that was fantastic.
- 40:58SPEAKER_01: And I mean, and the red herring of saying that he's a medic, that makes sense.
- 41:02SPEAKER_01: The predators want you out of a medic.
- 41:03SPEAKER_01: Like, no, we want you to have a serial killer.
- 41:06SPEAKER_01: That was that was pretty cool.
- 41:08SPEAKER_03: Well, James, what do you think?
- 41:10SPEAKER_03: Um, I think Stitch is going to bring because by the end of the movie, he did end up winning over the alien, the space aliens.
- 41:19SPEAKER_03: So now he has his own space aliens with their own ship and their own advanced technology protecting him.
- 41:27SPEAKER_03: So the predator had a huge technology advantage in the second round.
- 41:32SPEAKER_03: But Stitch, because of his manipulative cuteness, does end up winning over uh alien hunters with this access to basically copycat predator technology.
- 41:44SPEAKER_03: That's what he basically gets, and they're not concerned about capturing predator now.
- 41:49SPEAKER_03: Um so that's my thought.
- 41:51SPEAKER_03: And then, but for predator, I think I think predator would bring a xenomorph.
- 41:56SPEAKER_03: An alien.
- 41:57SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
- 41:58SPEAKER_03: Why is that?
- 41:59SPEAKER_03: Well, we know they use them.
- 42:01SPEAKER_03: We know we use them to breed for hunting.
- 42:03SPEAKER_03: Uh, they use them kind of like guard dogs, too.
- 42:05SPEAKER_03: I think at one point uh we saw that.
- 42:08SPEAKER_03: Um so I mean, uh, if he brought one of those and and sent it down to Earth, uh, it could destroy the earth.
- 42:16SPEAKER_03: I don't know.
- 42:16SPEAKER_03: I don't know how I don't know how willing Predator would be to use it.
- 42:20SPEAKER_03: Who knows?
- 42:21SPEAKER_01: Uh he'd totally be willing.
- 42:23SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 42:24SPEAKER_01: Um then on my side of it, so so I'd have to agree that Stitch is bringing his alien friends.
- 42:34SPEAKER_01: Um, I mean because I don't think he's going to willingly put um Nani and Lilo up against predators and xenomorphs.
- 42:46SPEAKER_03: I mean, they kind of wouldn't have a choice.
- 42:48SPEAKER_03: Uh that's the thing, isn't it?
- 42:50SPEAKER_01: Well, that brings me into my next point.
- 42:52SPEAKER_01: So what what I see happening here, um, so I see Stitch bringing his alien, his his, you know, alien friends that he's created along the way.
- 43:03SPEAKER_01: And that shit don't work on a xenomorph.
- 43:06SPEAKER_01: If we're gonna include a xenomorph, they don't give a fuck.
- 43:10SPEAKER_01: So what I see happening here is that Stitch's alien friends are face hugger fodder.
- 43:17SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 43:18SPEAKER_01: Well, which then turns it into the actual horror because you because if you include an alien, we've now gone away from action with like Schwarzenegger, and we've entered into the realm of horror.
- 43:30SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
- 43:30SPEAKER_01: Um, and what I see happening is Stitch's alien friends will be will have a chest burster explode through them, which illustrates to Stitch the dire circumstances that he's in.
- 43:43SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 43:44SPEAKER_01: And then we now have uh a predator against a Stitch who is beyond I need to be goofy.
- 43:52SPEAKER_01: I I think we have a Stitch who's like, I'm in a horror movie now, against a predator who's like, I'm here here we go.
- 44:00SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 44:00SPEAKER_01: Um Nathan, what are your thoughts?
- 44:02SPEAKER_05: Yeah, I think uh if um if Lilo died from the predator or alien, I think Stitch would be you know, he'd kind of enter his final form and sort of be like No, that's it now.
- 44:16SPEAKER_05: And it will be a tough battle.
- 44:19SPEAKER_05: Saying that, I still think Predator has probably got the quite a large advantage, especially if he brings Alien.
- 44:29SPEAKER_05: I would have um I would have asked him to kind of like to bring Arnie down with him, saying, Look, I know you've defeated one of us.
- 44:35SPEAKER_05: I know you've defeated one of us before, but it's time to set our differences aside.
- 44:39SPEAKER_05: Look, this Stitch bastard is coming.
- 44:42SPEAKER_05: We need to deal with him, and Arnie would have Lilo like locked up, and you know, who is the daddy and what does he do sort of thing?
- 44:51SPEAKER_05: And yeah, I think Predator would win.
- 44:55SPEAKER_01: Okay.
- 44:56SPEAKER_01: Well, well then I think real fast we have a serious decision to decide here.
- 45:00SPEAKER_01: Um, because I mean I think I feel like we're in a there's a solid consensus that Stitch is bringing his alien crew.
- 45:08SPEAKER_01: Um do we think that the Predator is going to bring Arnold Schwarzenegger, the his traditional enemy?
- 45:17SPEAKER_01: Um, or do we think he's going to bring an alien, another one of his traditional enemies?
- 45:22SPEAKER_01: What what do we think?
- 45:23SPEAKER_01: What do we think?
- 45:24SPEAKER_01: Um Nathan?
- 45:27SPEAKER_05: Um I think he's probably more likely to bring alien than a xenomorph.
- 45:33SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
- 45:34SPEAKER_05: Um James?
- 45:35SPEAKER_03: I think thematically it gives him an edge also.
- 45:37SPEAKER_03: I don't I don't think I think if uh I think there's a chance Arnold Schwarzenegger could succumb to the manipulative powers of Stitch.
- 45:45SPEAKER_03: Um, but there's no chance a xenomorph will so yeah.
- 45:49SPEAKER_01: Um well the only thing I I would counter by saying that Arnold Schwarzenegger has two abilities fire from the hip, and when he starts firing from the hip without using any aiming whatsoever, and his muscles are bulging, everything dies, except the predator.
- 46:05SPEAKER_01: Um and he has the 1980s action hero thematic ability that one, he's never gonna lose, and two, children's shows don't make money.
- 46:19SPEAKER_01: This is the 80s, it's about cocaine and hookers.
- 46:21SPEAKER_01: However, he has been an actor longer and he has done kindergarten cop and he's just why, but and then my secondary point there, however, is that the character Dutch from uh Predator would never work with a predator.
- 46:35SPEAKER_01: Um it's just I don't think it's possible.
- 46:38SPEAKER_01: However, uh predators have unleashed aliens for their needs.
- 46:44SPEAKER_01: So I I think uh we're gonna see an alien.
- 46:46SPEAKER_01: I think we're gonna see an alien.
- 46:48SPEAKER_01: Um, so then Nathan, we know who they're bringing.
- 46:52SPEAKER_01: What do you think's gonna happen, and what's your vote?
- 46:55SPEAKER_05: Yeah, I think I think Predator, you know, they they will all have um baby aliens bursting out of their chests uh within within the week.
- 47:05SPEAKER_05: So I'm just gonna give it to Predator.
- 47:09SPEAKER_05: Alright.
- 47:09SPEAKER_05: Just just for for the xenomorph's sake.
- 47:11SPEAKER_05: Yeah, um even even without xenomorph, I mean, you know, we i if he had Arnie, I think he'd still win, especially if Arnie had his um turbo man suit.
- 47:24unknown: Yeah.
- 47:25SPEAKER_05: But yeah, uh I I'll give it to Predator.
- 47:28SPEAKER_03: Alright, James?
- 47:29SPEAKER_03: Yeah, it's a real tough one.
- 47:31SPEAKER_03: I I came into this fight thinking Stitch would uh uh uh fucking demolish predator uh because Stitch is just uh godlike in his mutability, but thematically Stitch is captured at one point, so he had to lose round two.
- 47:45SPEAKER_03: Uh and in round three, I just don't think he can handle the predator.
- 47:49SPEAKER_03: When when the predator has access to his ship and to his knowledge and to uh and to a weapon like the xenomorph, who has who is unthinking and unfeeling and unrelenting and and requires like planning to kill all the xenomorphs at once.
- 48:05SPEAKER_03: If you don't kill all the xenomorphs at once, you still got xenomorphs, they're like fucking cockroaches.
- 48:10SPEAKER_03: Um so uh yeah, so I think Predator just he you can't beat Predator when he's got a xenomorph.
- 48:17SPEAKER_01: And then for me, so what I see happening, I I see a so the predator in AVP 2 is and I I don't know why you know Hollywood has to keep doing this where they bring in characters that we love and we want to see, and they're like, let's concentrate on this teenage human bullshit for a minute.
- 48:35SPEAKER_01: Um, but that storyline aside, you see the predator Wolf in that one, and he's got so much tech at his disposal.
- 48:44SPEAKER_01: Um, he is such a just a professional in how he goes about it.
- 48:48SPEAKER_01: I mean, he's got his his chain whips, he's got his the little devices that he throws out that shows him the inner workings of a building.
- 48:56SPEAKER_01: He's got two double blasters, you know, and I see Wolf landing down, um, and he releases the xenomorphs and he's watching the situation play out, and he's gonna be watching the situation playing out.
- 49:09SPEAKER_01: He's he's hunting 626 and he's just paying attention to what he's doing.
- 49:14SPEAKER_01: Stitch's world is being just torn apart by a xenomorph, which would be a movie in its own right.
- 49:21SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
- 49:21SPEAKER_01: And then when Stitch in so when Stitch finally overcomes it all, the true person that's been hunting him invisibly, I think, will just blow his head off or claim his skull, and there's gonna be a Stitch skull trophy on the ship.
- 49:37SPEAKER_01: And so my vote will also go to the predator.
- 49:41SPEAKER_03: Uh big surprise for me.
- 49:43SPEAKER_03: I wasn't expecting that at all.
- 49:44SPEAKER_01: Yeah, so so there it is, people.
- 49:47SPEAKER_01: Round one went to Stitch right off the gate, and then all of a sudden the predator swept through and took round two and round three once he's allowed his hunting grounds.
- 49:58SPEAKER_01: Stitch versus the predator, the predator wins.
- 50:01SPEAKER_02: I'm out on top.
- 50:03SPEAKER_02: My hell.
- 50:05SPEAKER_01: As as Disney forces us to watch the most terrible animated scene of all time where Stitch gets his head removed.
- 50:15SPEAKER_02: Someone had to animate that.
- 50:17SPEAKER_00: They're like, why are you making me do this?
- 50:21SPEAKER_03: Um they specifically asked for this job.
- 50:26SPEAKER_00: It's crazy.
- 50:28SPEAKER_00: All right, so going forward from this point in history, um, our first wake and bake episode of High and Dry, The Predator has murdered Stitch.
- 50:40SPEAKER_00: Yay!
- 50:44SPEAKER_01: So, Nathan, thank you so much for joining us on this episode.
- 50:48SPEAKER_01: Um, one more time for the folks at home.
- 50:50SPEAKER_01: I know uh you got uh your novel, Escape from Arcadia, coming out.
- 50:53SPEAKER_01: Um, where can we find you again?
- 50:55SPEAKER_05: You find me on Twitter at Nathescam.
- 50:58SPEAKER_05: Uh that's Nath Nat H, and then scam as you know, I've been scammed, or Instagram, Facebook, LinkedIn, I don't know.
- 51:07SPEAKER_05: Find me at my home.
- 51:09SPEAKER_05: Just come knock on the door.
- 51:11SPEAKER_05: Find me at the window at the gym Saturday.
- 51:16SPEAKER_01: Um, yeah.
- 51:17SPEAKER_01: Fantastic will thank you again so much.
- 51:20SPEAKER_01: Um, James, where can you find us?
- 51:23SPEAKER_03: You can find us at uh high and dry pod on Twitter, high and dry podcasts on Instagram.
- 51:30SPEAKER_03: You can find Ryan at Barron underscore North on Twitter.
- 51:33SPEAKER_03: I'm the Diabolical on Twitter.
- 51:36SPEAKER_03: Um you can go to Ryan Barron North.com, right?
- 51:40SPEAKER_03: Yep.
- 51:40SPEAKER_03: RyanBearn North.com.
- 51:42SPEAKER_03: Go there, check out Ryan's musings.
- 51:45SPEAKER_03: Uh there's good content there.
- 51:47SPEAKER_03: Oh, it's so early.
- 51:48SPEAKER_03: It is so early.
- 51:50SPEAKER_03: And thank you for coming by, Nathan.
- 51:52SPEAKER_01: It was really nice meeting you.
- 51:54SPEAKER_01: It was good.
- 51:54SPEAKER_01: And with that being said, thank you everyone for tuning into High and Dry Podcast.
- 51:58SPEAKER_01: We'll catch you next week.
- 52:00SPEAKER_01: Take it easy.