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AEW Hot Topics | Battle Advantage · Ignition - an AEW Podcast

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  Speaker 1: And nine.
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  Speaker 2: Five four three two one zero, all engine running.
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  Speaker 3: It's Tuesday. You know what that means. It's time for
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  Speaker 3: Ignition with the aw fan Out podcast team. This is Kelson.
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  Speaker 3: We are broadcasting Q Live tonight, as we do every
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  Speaker 3: Tuesday night on X and Twitch. We have a lot
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  Speaker 3: to talk about Tomorrow night in America, America. Hey, we
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  Speaker 3: are in America. Is everybody here in America?
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  Speaker 2: I'm in Ohio. That's kind of America.
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  Speaker 3: No, I don't, technically that's not America. But anyway, Tomorrow
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  Speaker 3: night at a W Dynamite comes to us from Houston, Texas,
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  Speaker 3: which is in America. And you know what announced earlier today,
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  Speaker 3: Tony Kahn announced a blood and Guts Advantage Battle. Did
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  Speaker 3: you guys hear about that?
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  Speaker 4: I did not.
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  Speaker 2: This is interesting.
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  Speaker 3: Well, well here's the graphic and if you can look
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  Speaker 3: at it, it takes place tomorrow night on Dynamite and
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  Speaker 3: Saturday night on Collision. Now what it is is it
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  Speaker 3: has two different battles, and it is of course somebody
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  Speaker 3: is running water. That's weird. Basically, what it is is
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  Speaker 3: it is tied into blood and guts. It's called the
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  Speaker 3: Advantage Battle. Tomorrow night on Dynamite you'll have Orange Cassidy
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  Speaker 3: versus Claudio Castignoli and Darby Allen facing Daniel Gardee. The
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  Speaker 3: rules of this is is that whoever gets to two
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  Speaker 3: wins first gets the advantage in the UH Blood and
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  Speaker 3: Guts because you know that everybody in the Blood and
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  Speaker 3: Guts match doesn't all come in at once. Now, on
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  Speaker 3: the women's side, they're only having one match on Dynamite
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  Speaker 3: Queen Amanada versus Megan Bain, and the other two matches
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  Speaker 3: that you can see on the screen right now will
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  Speaker 3: take place on UH on Collision. So anyway, what do
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  Speaker 3: you guys think about this? Because I think this is
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  Speaker 3: an interesting way to present Yeah, it's.
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  Speaker 2: A clever idea, better wan to coin for it.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, and better than just doing one match. I like
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  Speaker 5: the idea, you know, like it's not just one versus
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  Speaker 5: determined there.
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  Speaker 1: Sorry, I think I'm the one that comes down.
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  Speaker 3: I don't, right, So, uh, well, let's talk about you know,
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  Speaker 3: because this is important when it comes to Blood and Guts.
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  Speaker 3: Of course, next week we'll have a more in depth
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  Speaker 3: look at Blood and Guts, but since these are happening
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  Speaker 3: tomorrow night. Uh, first of all, you have Orange Cassidy
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  Speaker 3: versus Claudio casting Mioli. Uh, who do you guys see
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  Speaker 3: winning this match?
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  Speaker 5: I'm gonna go with Claudia here, Wow, Claudio.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, I think Claudio too. It's been a while since
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  Speaker 6: the big.
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  Speaker 3: Guys have been win I think, yeah. I mean I
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  Speaker 3: actually thought it was gonna be Cassidy, but you guys
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  Speaker 3: have kind of convinced me, you know.
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  Speaker 6: Are better. When the heels said the advantage, it's kind
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  Speaker 6: of built in. It's not. It's just I don't know,
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  Speaker 6: it's not as thrilling when the good guys said the advantage,
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  Speaker 6: because you want to, you know, pull it off.
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  Speaker 4: So part of it is looking at the other matters.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, Like because I don't think Daniel Garcia beats Darby Allen.
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  Speaker 3: And well, well we'll get to that one a matter
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  Speaker 3: of fact. Let's uh, let's look at it. Uh, you've
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  Speaker 3: got Darby Allen against Daniel Garcia. Uh, what do you
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  Speaker 3: guys think about this match? Yeah?
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  Speaker 4: Darby, for sure, he's got too much momentum.
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  Speaker 5: And I mean he is really the catalyst for blood
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  Speaker 5: and God behold, I mean he's the leader against the
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  Speaker 5: deast Riders, So.
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  Speaker 4: I don't see how he loses that match.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, Darby's gonna murder Danny. I'm sorry, it's gonna happen.
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  Speaker 2: Murder is going to happen.
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  Speaker 6: I don't go murder him.
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  Speaker 7: He's not so jo Oh yeah, I wouldn't be shocked
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  Speaker 7: if this is Garcia really really put in the screws
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  Speaker 7: to Derby and then Darby pulling one of this crazy
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  Speaker 7: not so finishes you know.
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  Speaker 6: Where I mean, Darby just he just bumps so well
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  Speaker 6: for everybody. He makes everybody look ridiculous. So I'd like
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  Speaker 6: to see I think daniell put some screws to him
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  Speaker 6: and then you know, Darby will turn around and pull
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  Speaker 6: out the one.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, so Danny would murders.
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  Speaker 6: With a fine murder. Jess like like, what what's he
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  Speaker 6: gonna do to him? Like? What are you? What are
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  Speaker 6: you looking for?
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  Speaker 2: Can I have a little bit of sick of stuff?
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  Speaker 2: I mean it's Dorby, It's it's practically required by law.
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  Speaker 6: So like a spike batter.
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  Speaker 2: Something, you just give me some color. I want to
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  Speaker 2: see Danny bust it open a little and Darby busted
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  Speaker 2: open a little too. Just bust everybody open.
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  Speaker 6: Fire, just just bust it. They'll his hand raiser blades
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  Speaker 6: out and they're just like blade appropriate.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think, Oh, I think about Darby Allen. It's
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  Speaker 3: either he either bleeds out of his ear or he
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  Speaker 3: bleeds out of his back. It's not like regular blading,
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  Speaker 3: you know, a regular color. Yeah, yeah, Well if Daniel
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  Speaker 3: Garcia has a fork, then maybe we'll we'll see some
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  Speaker 3: color at least for Darby.
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  Speaker 6: Are these these are like these are straight up matches.
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  Speaker 3: Right, I don't know they they didn't really come come
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  Speaker 3: to that. But then on the women's side, uh, you
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  Speaker 3: can see we've got tomorrow night is the only match
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  Speaker 3: on the women's side is going to be Meghan Bain
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  Speaker 3: versus Queen Amanada. Now who do you have in this match?
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  Speaker 2: And yep, Meghan?
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, I agree, Yeah, I have to say Megan Pain.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. Well look here's the way I look at it,
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  Speaker 3: and tell me, tell me what what you guys go?
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  Speaker 3: Did you have something to add Barry?
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, I was just so. I think the Bane I
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  Speaker 6: mean auto man, I agree with everybody. I think Ban's
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  Speaker 6: gonna win because that's ther mast most sort of her
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  Speaker 6: push right now. But the Amanada matchup, do you see
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  Speaker 6: them trying to push her as more of a bigger,
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  Speaker 6: a bigger body. I mean she's and I don't mean
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  Speaker 6: that as as you know, like a jacked or anything
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  Speaker 6: like that, but she's really tall. She looks like a
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  Speaker 6: volleyball player. I think she pairs up real well with Bain,
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  Speaker 6: and we know she can work stiff. You think that's
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  Speaker 6: kind of how they're gonna position her in this match
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  Speaker 6: and then like in her place going forward where she's
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  Speaker 6: one of the heavier hitters, do you think they'll kind
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  Speaker 6: of keep her in the in between those two pups,
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  Speaker 6: like they've got her sitting now.
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  Speaker 5: I can kind of see uh, her being like seen
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  Speaker 5: as a heavy hitter and someone who's gonna stack up
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  Speaker 5: with like you know, a Bay or a oh you know,
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  Speaker 5: even Willow or yeah, Niva Rose if she was there.
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  Speaker 5: But like when she goes up against someone like Pay,
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  Speaker 5: it'll be the heavy hitting, but it'll.
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  Speaker 4: Be Fame's strength that.
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  Speaker 5: Is am the hodest undoing, Like she's not gonna be
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  Speaker 5: She can hang with them with the striking, but she
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  Speaker 5: can't hang with that hour level.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, that's kind of how I see it too, Like
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  Speaker 6: like she's you don't she's not gonna be a pushover,
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  Speaker 6: but she so she's in that that that category or that.
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  Speaker 6: I don't know whatever the right term is, but yeah,
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  Speaker 6: I agree with you. I think she won't be able
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  Speaker 6: to compete on a power level story wise. But anyway,
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  Speaker 6: sorry to go on to tangent there. I'm just curious
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  Speaker 6: if anybody else was kind of seeing that too.
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  Speaker 3: Kelsey, No, you know, no, that was a really good point.
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  Speaker 3: I had a question about this. Of course, we're looking
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  Speaker 3: at this uh advantage battle where each team is striving
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  Speaker 3: to be the first to get two wins. Do you
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  Speaker 3: see any way possible since the matches have already been announced,
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  Speaker 3: do you see any way possible where on collision both
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  Speaker 3: of these the men and the women's don't go to
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  Speaker 3: one win each and have a deciding match on collision.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think they have to.
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  Speaker 9: It seems I mean, if you look at the matches
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  Speaker 9: on paper, seems kind of obvious who the winners are.
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  Speaker 9: The Heels are definitely booked to have a big advantage.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe they'll use that as.
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  Speaker 9: A surprise aspect and do some surprising booking, but yeah,
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  Speaker 9: I would expect they're going to hold that third match
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  Speaker 9: on both sides either way.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree, these blood and guts war games, what
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  Speaker 2: have you always better when the heels have the advantage.
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  Speaker 2: It gives the faces something to overcome.
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  Speaker 9: Yeah, I can only think of a couple just from
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  Speaker 9: nw A ont W c W to the NXT stuff
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  Speaker 9: like and even with that whatever, that god forsaken thing,
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  Speaker 9: or they used to lock people in the single the
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  Speaker 9: single cage war games thing that TNA used to do.
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  Speaker 9: I don't remember the name of it, but they they're
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  Speaker 9: almost always heels, like eighty five percent of the time
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  Speaker 9: heel advantage. It's just easier booking and that kind of thing.
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  Speaker 9: Somebody's bleeding out the beginning, some faces bleeding all over
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  Speaker 9: the place.
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  Speaker 6: You know, dramatically, you want to you want the odds
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  Speaker 6: stacked against the baby faces because it just it's it
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  Speaker 6: makes more sense narratively and dramatically, and it makes the
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  Speaker 6: finish and the wind should they pull it off, just
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  Speaker 6: a little more satisfying. So they come in with the advantage.
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  Speaker 6: It's like, well, it's kind of anesthetical for two on
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  Speaker 6: one for baby Faces. It's just not what they do.
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  Speaker 6: So I'm with you. It just I don't know, it
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  Speaker 6: just fits better to know the heels of the advantage
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  Speaker 6: because it makes little more.
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  Speaker 5: The hero has to overcome the obstacles, the hero has
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  Speaker 5: the advantage.
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  Speaker 4: It's boring. You know.
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  Speaker 5: If we we know that, oh, he's got all the advantages,
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  Speaker 5: he he's in control, it just.
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  Speaker 4: Becomes kind of like, Okay, good guys, gonna win. We
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  Speaker 4: already knew that, But we want to see them overcome.
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  Speaker 5: We want to see him have to fight. We want
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  Speaker 5: to see them struggle. If they don't struggle, it's boring.
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  Speaker 3: So let me ask you, guys, when we look at
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  Speaker 3: these three matches on each side, do we think ultimately
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  Speaker 3: that the Heels are going to have the advantage in
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  Speaker 3: both the Men's and the women's Blood and God's match.
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  Speaker 6: I don't.
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  Speaker 9: I definitely don't think Moxley is losing that like he
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  Speaker 9: I don't think there'd be a credible way to go
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  Speaker 9: into that match where he loses that match against Frederick Strong.
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  Speaker 9: Tecla could lose. I guess that can be an upset.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I could see that. I personally, when I look
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  Speaker 3: at this Cassidy casting Noley, I know everybody spoke about
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  Speaker 3: casting Noley winning, I kind of don't think so. I
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  Speaker 3: think Cassidy's gonna win it. Uh And I the only
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  Speaker 3: reason I think that Cassidy is going to lose. Is
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  Speaker 3: because Alan is definitely going to win against Garcia. Uh,
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  Speaker 3: because Alan is the to me, he's the big star
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  Speaker 3: on the Baby Bay side.
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  Speaker 9: Yeah, that could be it make could be interference finished
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  Speaker 9: with any of the Death Riders stuff though.
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  Speaker 3: Right, yeah, you're absolutely right. Now.
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  Speaker 5: The way see Allan losing is if worn Cassidy does
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  Speaker 5: pull off the upset, it would make the Death Riders
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  Speaker 5: kind of like, okay, we're down one and they just
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  Speaker 5: attack him the ever loving ship out of Darby before
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  Speaker 5: the match even starts. You know, Mosley brings out the four,
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  Speaker 5: it's them all bloody, and you know he's beaten down
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  Speaker 5: to Darby. Allen, being the crazy son of a bitch
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  Speaker 5: he is, will be like, no, I can fight, I
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  Speaker 5: can fight, and then he can't fight, Like he just
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  Speaker 5: gets beat up by Garcia because he's already down at
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  Speaker 5: like ten percent. And that way you get an upset
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  Speaker 5: while keeping Darby strong and establishing that the Death Riders
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  Speaker 5: are well, it's already been established, but they're eating piece
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  Speaker 5: of the shit.
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  Speaker 3: It furthers that well, well, let's splip over to the
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  Speaker 3: women's side. How do you see these three matches going personally,
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  Speaker 3: I think Amnon is going to beat Bain, I really do.
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  Speaker 3: But I think sky Blue is going to handle Jamie
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  Speaker 3: Hayter because they've been kind of promoting sky Blue as
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  Speaker 3: the hardcore woman in AW so this is going to
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  Speaker 3: be her fortape. Blood and Guts is going to be
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  Speaker 3: the center piece for sky Blue to show what she
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  Speaker 3: can do. But I think Harley Cameron's going to be Tecla.
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  Speaker 3: I think Harley Cameron's gonna handle hand Tecla her first loss.
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  Speaker 3: Not saying it's going to be cleaned or whatnot, but
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  Speaker 3: I think that the Baby Bass are going to come
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  Speaker 3: out with an advantage in the women's Blood and Guts.
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  Speaker 2: Well that's quite a call. I was gonna say that
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  Speaker 2: Harley is gonna get eaten alive.
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  Speaker 5: You know, Harley gets an upset by pinning Mercedes Bonet
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  Speaker 5: after Christah Landers distracts her in the tag team title
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  Speaker 5: tournament match for Marrow, and I mm hmm.
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  Speaker 6: You know, Kelson, I was, I wasn't thinking this way
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  Speaker 6: until you mentioned it. I actually could. I think I
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  Speaker 6: agree with you. I think maybe the Babyfaces do get
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  Speaker 6: the advantage for this, And the main reason I say
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  Speaker 6: that is just thinking back they've been the aggressors for
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  Speaker 6: the whole Blood and Guts push the baby Faces half
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  Speaker 6: like this is the first time when like the Babyfaces
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  Speaker 6: were just not going to take crap from the Heels
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  Speaker 6: and they went after them, they attacked them. They were
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  Speaker 6: the aggressors calling out blood and Guts in this case. Narratively,
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  Speaker 6: it makes sense for them to be aggressive here to
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  Speaker 6: try to secure this advantage in a way it doesn't
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  Speaker 6: necessarily for the men's team. That storyline seems a little
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  Speaker 6: more reactive as opposed to the Babyfaces being proactive in this, because,
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  Speaker 6: I mean, people have been calling this match for a
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  Speaker 6: few months. They've done I think the women's a good
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  Speaker 6: job building this, everybody ready for it. I did not
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  Speaker 6: think about it, Yeah, and so I'm just thinking, like, like,
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  Speaker 6: I think you're right, Kelson. I think the baby Faces
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  Speaker 6: get the advantage of the women's match.
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  Speaker 3: You know that. That's a really good point, Barry. And
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  Speaker 3: that kind of brings me to our next little discussion
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  Speaker 3: topic because on Twitter and on Reddit specifically, I've seen
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  Speaker 3: so many people, so many people saying that this blood
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  Speaker 3: and Guts, specifically the women's blood and Guts was just
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  Speaker 3: thrown together with no build up.
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  Speaker 9: It was literally six weeks of stuff. I was getting
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  Speaker 9: tired of it.
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  Speaker 1: That's ridiculous. People don't watch the show.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, those.
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  Speaker 5: Morons who don't watch the show, repeating the same full
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  Speaker 5: craft they always said, Oh there's stories, there's been a
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  Speaker 5: build No, you just don't watch the show.
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  Speaker 3: You're a jack.
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  Speaker 9: I don't like that they took the kind of two
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  Speaker 9: week break before, which, strangely, I mean, I guess they
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  Speaker 9: were building the pay per view, which once again is
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  Speaker 9: why I don't like Russell dreamon Dynasty on the calendar.
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  Speaker 9: But beside that, yeah, I think there was nothing but this,
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  Speaker 9: like this was the whole Limbs division for like six
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  Speaker 9: weeks was building.
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  Speaker 3: Up to this, right, So this brings me to something,
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  Speaker 3: and I agree with what you guys are saying. Look,
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  Speaker 3: people that say that the women's Blood and Guts have
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  Speaker 3: has had no build up, clearly don't watch the show.
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  Speaker 3: You cannot say that you know anything about aw if
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  Speaker 3: you get all of your information from like minded trolls
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  Speaker 3: on Reddit and x. Let me just put it that way.
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  Speaker 3: This Blood and Guts for the women's side has had
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  Speaker 3: build up for weeks and weeks and weeks and weeks
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  Speaker 3: we have been talking about blood and guts for how
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  Speaker 3: long ago did we first say, oh, it's going to
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  Speaker 3: be blood and guts More to six weeks?
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  Speaker 6: Man, like we mentioned it on the show, like we've
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  Speaker 6: been putting.
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  Speaker 3: It three four months. This been months. It's been months.
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  Speaker 3: So to those people that have been complaining and spewing
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  Speaker 3: nonsense that there has been no build up for the
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  Speaker 3: women's blood and Guts, I have one thing to say
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  Speaker 3: to you, shut the hell up, thank you.
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  Speaker 6: So hey, I do. The only person in this that
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  Speaker 6: really kind of touches me and the women's is Mercedes
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  Speaker 6: because she has not really factored into this huge a
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  Speaker 6: whole lot at all. U just she has, like I
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  Speaker 6: the five and five and then there's like one on
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  Speaker 6: each team where I'm just like, really they were kind
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  Speaker 6: of on the on the periphery, but go ahead.
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  Speaker 3: But Barry Mercedes has factored into this. I mean she
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  Speaker 3: has been in she has been in multiple okay, so
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  Speaker 3: she was in the Owen Hart, she was in multiple
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  Speaker 3: tag teams and three way and four way whatever you
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  Speaker 3: want to call the matches. Okay, she's been heavily involved
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  Speaker 3: with Harley Cameron, right, She's I mean at that I mean, look,
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  Speaker 3: the gluten holds this all together, frankly speaking, in the
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  Speaker 3: blood and guts in the women's side is Harley Cameron.
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  Speaker 3: I mean she's the down callous of the women's division
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  Speaker 3: in a weird kind of way.
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  Speaker 6: Hey, if you if you were to look back at
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  Speaker 6: this storyline, where do you where would you say it started?
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  Speaker 6: If I'm looking at this, I would say, whether it
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  Speaker 6: was on purpose or not, it was when bekelon Amanada
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  Speaker 6: started killing each other and a few that ran justin
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  Speaker 6: milches with no promos like that's where they started planting
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  Speaker 6: seats for this.
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  Speaker 3: Yep, I agree, Okay, No, Look, I mean you could
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  Speaker 3: go back many, many many moons. Remember when Mercedes Monette
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  Speaker 3: first came into aw the first person that had a
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  Speaker 3: class with her was Julia Hart, not will o' Nightingale.
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  Speaker 3: Willow Nightmale became TBS champion, and of course Mercedes Monet
• 20:14
  Speaker 3: did that to beat Willow Nightingale to win the TBS
• 20:19
  Speaker 3: championship when it was quite obvious to me that it
• 20:23
  Speaker 3: was supposed to be Julia Hart. But Julia Hart got
• 20:25
  Speaker 3: that shoulder injury. Then you can go back to Harley Cameron.
• 20:29
  Speaker 3: As I pointed out earlier, I mean, she's had her
• 20:31
  Speaker 3: finger in every pie point. That was not a very
• 20:34
  Speaker 3: very good example. But you know what I'm saying. I mean,
• 20:39
  Speaker 3: actually that's a joke. That is the yeah, and get
• 20:45
  Speaker 3: get somebody like will o' Nightguel, Chris Statlander, Mercedes Monette,
• 20:49
  Speaker 3: who she's all had strong interactions with. Have them give
• 20:56
  Speaker 3: a like disapproving glance or throw their hands up in
• 20:59
  Speaker 3: the air or whatever. You know what I'm saying. But then,
• 21:04
  Speaker 3: of course Harley Cameron has a problem with Megan Bain
• 21:07
  Speaker 3: for breaking her face. I mean, when you look if
• 21:11
  Speaker 3: you take each of these women individually and look how
• 21:15
  Speaker 3: they're intertwined, there's a lot of intertwined intertwining there. Tekla
• 21:21
  Speaker 3: attacked Jamie Hayter. Who else to attacked Jamie Hayter, Julia Hart.
• 21:29
  Speaker 3: This was months and months ago. I mean to be
• 21:33
  Speaker 3: honest with you, when you look at this whole thing,
• 21:36
  Speaker 3: for me, when you look at the entire things, of course,
• 21:41
  Speaker 3: Marina Shappier is a little bit out there, but it
• 21:43
  Speaker 3: wasn't supposed to be. Marina Shipper was supposed to be.
• 21:45
  Speaker 3: Penelope boorn Right sky Blue is the only one that
• 21:49
  Speaker 3: really doesn't have a whole heck of a lot of
• 21:52
  Speaker 3: angst with anybody, you know what I'm saying. I mean,
• 21:57
  Speaker 3: she's been involved, but she's not really like who was
• 22:00
  Speaker 3: Sky Blues, you know, vote in all this, you know,
• 22:06
  Speaker 3: Queen Aminada maybe her a little bit.
• 22:11
  Speaker 6: Yeah, Yeah, Well, I think part of the problem with
• 22:14
  Speaker 6: Sky is they just really haven't fleshed her out. Probably
• 22:17
  Speaker 6: she doesn't talk, you know, at least Julia talks a
• 22:19
  Speaker 6: little bit. But that's one of the things that's actually
• 22:21
  Speaker 6: kind of bugged me about their tag team is they
• 22:23
  Speaker 6: just kind of look like the Evil Doll Sisters.
• 22:26
  Speaker 3: Yes, Julia used to.
• 22:27
  Speaker 6: Have a little more personality, and Beckla has just kind
• 22:30
  Speaker 6: of been the charisma black hole in that group because
• 22:35
  Speaker 6: she's the front person. Yeah, and I feel like Sky
• 22:38
  Speaker 6: kind of gets lost in the shuffle. But coming back
• 22:39
  Speaker 6: to something you brought up earlier, Keelson, we were talking
• 22:41
  Speaker 6: about the matches. I agree that Scott. I think Sky
• 22:46
  Speaker 6: is really going to come out of Blood and Guts
• 22:48
  Speaker 6: looking great. I think they're going to give her a
• 22:51
  Speaker 6: lot of really cool stuff. I don't remember what interview
• 22:54
  Speaker 6: or somebody, but she had mentioned how she likes doing
• 22:57
  Speaker 6: matches like this and wants to do things like that,
• 23:00
  Speaker 6: and so seeing her tweet about being super excited or
• 23:03
  Speaker 6: whatever it was, I think you're spot on, Kelson. I
• 23:06
  Speaker 6: think this is gonna be It's gonna be a pretty
• 23:07
  Speaker 6: good showcase for Sky and I'm hoping that she comes
• 23:09
  Speaker 6: out of it. She's she's gonna build a little more
• 23:12
  Speaker 6: momentum and get get a little more work and support.
• 23:15
  Speaker 9: Yeah, I would agree she's Her performances have been pretty
• 23:19
  Speaker 9: spotty since coming back from injury. She's looked better recently,
• 23:22
  Speaker 9: so I hope she's got a good anchor now and
• 23:25
  Speaker 9: is ready to kind of get back to where she
• 23:27
  Speaker 9: was because she was definitely kind of one of the
• 23:30
  Speaker 9: standout mid card people, or it seemed to be headed
• 23:35
  Speaker 9: that way for a long time.
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: Before she broke her legs for then.
• 23:38
  Speaker 6: Yeah, and she works like Kel's. I think I remember
• 23:41
  Speaker 6: you seeing a stat like or maybe it was Shane
• 23:43
  Speaker 6: back in the day, the number of matches she had
• 23:45
  Speaker 6: across twenty twenty twenty thirteen, I think she had the
• 23:48
  Speaker 6: most matches of anybody on the roster, not just ew
• 23:51
  Speaker 6: but just total.
• 23:53
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that was me. She actually she actually had I
• 23:56
  Speaker 3: believe it was twenty twenty three, she had more matches
• 24:02
  Speaker 3: than anyone in AWE. Yeah, I mean, I mean this
• 24:09
  Speaker 3: was the year that you know, Orange Cassidy was, you know,
• 24:13
  Speaker 3: defending you know, every other day, and yet sky Blue
• 24:19
  Speaker 3: had more matches than Orange Cassidy. Before we move on,
• 24:24
  Speaker 3: because I don't want to spend an hour talking about
• 24:27
  Speaker 3: blood and guts, but it is, it's just got so
• 24:29
  Speaker 3: much moving pieces to it. We just talked about the
• 24:33
  Speaker 3: women's blood and guts, but you know how people are
• 24:38
  Speaker 3: saying that there's no build to it, which again I
• 24:42
  Speaker 3: think it's preposterous that people saying that the men's blood
• 24:46
  Speaker 3: and guts. I could kind of get it if you argue.
• 24:50
  Speaker 3: Somebody argued saying this was just thrown together at least
• 24:55
  Speaker 3: a little bit more than than the than the women's was.
• 25:00
  Speaker 6: An immense snaps ahead.
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, I agree. I agree.
• 25:02
  Speaker 9: I don't think they should have done it either. I
• 25:05
  Speaker 9: think it is a mistake to do it. But that
• 25:08
  Speaker 9: being said, it makes sense. But I don't think I
• 25:13
  Speaker 9: think like when people talk about like all the build
• 25:15
  Speaker 9: for the women's divisions bad, I think it's just kind
• 25:17
  Speaker 9: of the typical sort of I think they're used that
• 25:20
  Speaker 9: WWE type of storytelling where you just receive a story
• 25:24
  Speaker 9: and here it is over like a pay per view cycle,
• 25:27
  Speaker 9: whereas this has felt like a thing that's gone on
• 25:29
  Speaker 9: for kind of more than a year and sort of
• 25:31
  Speaker 9: has been background radiation of violence going on with the
• 25:34
  Speaker 9: women's division.
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: I don't think that.
• 25:35
  Speaker 9: I mean, obviously everybody hates the Death Writers, so it
• 25:38
  Speaker 9: makes sense that this group would get together and want
• 25:40
  Speaker 9: to fight them. But I do agree, like there's it
• 25:44
  Speaker 9: just seems kind of crazy like that.
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: It feels more like the previous.
• 25:47
  Speaker 9: Blood and Guts matches, especially the second one, where it
• 25:49
  Speaker 9: was also a similar situation where they just kind of
• 25:52
  Speaker 9: announced it one day. It was like, oh, that time
• 25:54
  Speaker 9: of year to do Blood and Guts. Here's the Inner
• 25:56
  Speaker 9: Circle versus somebody else.
• 25:58
  Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, I mean that again, I don't know anybody
• 26:02
  Speaker 6: who can say that they haven't been building this for
• 26:04
  Speaker 6: the women and it was a shock. It's it's the
• 26:06
  Speaker 6: men that it just clearly the Death Writers that you
• 26:10
  Speaker 6: can always plug into this kind of match because there's
• 26:12
  Speaker 6: five of them, but like the conglomeration in their feud
• 26:17
  Speaker 6: with them, and the also ron Sta've added in, it's
• 26:20
  Speaker 6: just like it's like the mid card All Stars versus
• 26:23
  Speaker 6: Death Writers. And I think having this match on the
• 26:26
  Speaker 6: show takes away from the women's match. I think that
• 26:30
  Speaker 6: should have been the focal point. I think two on
• 26:32
  Speaker 6: a show makes it feel less special, and I just
• 26:34
  Speaker 6: don't think it was needed. I even put the women
• 26:38
  Speaker 6: You've been booking towards this for a couple of months.
• 26:40
  Speaker 6: Give them the shot. Let them shine, man.
• 26:42
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I do think that the women are gonna shine.
• 26:45
  Speaker 3: And I do agree, you know, with your statement about
• 26:49
  Speaker 3: the mid card all Stars. I really do.
• 26:51
  Speaker 10: Uh.
• 26:53
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna say something surprising because you know, I will
• 26:57
  Speaker 3: talk about this Blood of Guts when it's final lot,
• 27:00
  Speaker 3: and we'll talk about it on Ignition next week for sure,
• 27:04
  Speaker 3: with our predictions and whatnot. But what I would like
• 27:08
  Speaker 3: to see, and you know that I'm not the biggest
• 27:11
  Speaker 3: fan of the Death Writers, but in this instance, I
• 27:15
  Speaker 3: want to see the Death Writers beat the living crap
• 27:18
  Speaker 3: out of the Conglomeration. I am so sick. I am
• 27:23
  Speaker 3: so sick of the conglomeration they have other than Orange Cassidy.
• 27:29
  Speaker 3: I mean, Darby Allen really isn't in the end of conglomeration.
• 27:32
  Speaker 3: But I am not a fan of Mark Briscoe. I mean,
• 27:37
  Speaker 3: I'm not saying I don't like him. I'm just saying
• 27:40
  Speaker 3: he's not He's not a pay per view guy to me,
• 27:46
  Speaker 3: nor is Robert Strong, nor is Kyle O'Reilly. I'm sorry.
• 27:52
  Speaker 3: They are mid card all stars. As Barry put.
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: It, do you just not like Sorry, well, I said,
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: you just not like things that bring me joy.
• 28:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you're right. I've been I've been stealing your diary
• 28:10
  Speaker 3: and reading it at night so I can see what
• 28:12
  Speaker 3: you like and what you don't like, so that I
• 28:14
  Speaker 3: can totally go against you.
• 28:18
  Speaker 6: I uh again, I think the women should be the
• 28:21
  Speaker 6: main event, and I want to be really special. It's like,
• 28:26
  Speaker 6: I think this is a very special match, just like
• 28:30
  Speaker 6: the Britt Baker thunder Rosa match back in the day,
• 28:33
  Speaker 6: was it meant something. I think this this could be
• 28:37
  Speaker 6: one of those matches. And having the men's match on
• 28:40
  Speaker 6: first No One brisk goes out there and he bleeds
• 28:42
  Speaker 6: buckets and mocks out there and he bleeds buckets. I
• 28:47
  Speaker 6: just I think it's going to take away and and
• 28:50
  Speaker 6: I think, especially with those two out there, I think
• 28:52
  Speaker 6: it's a mistake.
• 28:54
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, look, the main event, and I don't no, no,
• 28:58
  Speaker 3: I agree with you. It should be the I'm looking
• 29:00
  Speaker 3: forward to the women's blood and guts much more than
• 29:04
  Speaker 3: the man's blood and guts. To me is this is
• 29:07
  Speaker 3: just another.
• 29:07
  Speaker 6: Match that's the one that feels thrown together.
• 29:11
  Speaker 3: It really does, you know. And I gotta say this
• 29:15
  Speaker 3: over on the Women's Pro Wrestling subreddit, there was a
• 29:18
  Speaker 3: mental giant and there's only that's the only way I
• 29:20
  Speaker 3: can described his numb nut was saying that there's no
• 29:27
  Speaker 3: reason to have a women's blood and guts because women
• 29:31
  Speaker 3: should not be bleeding. And he kept giving examples, he
• 29:37
  Speaker 3: kept giving, he kept giving examples about from the Divas
• 29:43
  Speaker 3: era in w W, and I'm like, I'm like, first
• 29:48
  Speaker 3: of all, the Divas era WWE was pretty much but
• 29:54
  Speaker 3: I'm just gonna say it, it's an ass embarrassment.
• 29:57
  Speaker 5: Okay, yeah, exactly.
• 30:03
  Speaker 3: Right, exactly. But the thing I couldn't get through to
• 30:07
  Speaker 3: his head is this topic that we're talking about is
• 30:11
  Speaker 3: about the ae W women's blood and guts.
• 30:16
  Speaker 10: Bringing up w W, E, t NA, Stardom, t j
• 30:21
  Speaker 10: p W, DeFi, Pro Wrestling, whatever, has absolutely nothing to.
• 30:27
  Speaker 3: Do with the a W women's blood and guts.
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: Well, just a ducky to know that sexism is still
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: alive and well in the wrestling community.
• 30:40
  Speaker 8: I mean, I am absolutely shocked.
• 30:44
  Speaker 3: I mean, look, I'm not gonna lie to you. Okay,
• 30:50
  Speaker 3: there are women's in this There are women in this
• 30:54
  Speaker 3: blood and guts match. There are women in this blood
• 30:58
  Speaker 3: and guts guts match that I personally find extremely attractive. Okay,
• 31:04
  Speaker 3: And that is not even the first thing that I
• 31:07
  Speaker 3: think about. Are a second or the third thing that
• 31:09
  Speaker 3: I'm thinking about. I'm thinking about story, I'm thinking about
• 31:11
  Speaker 3: their wrestling ability. I'm not gonna hold someone's attractiveness against them.
• 31:17
  Speaker 3: I want to see them beat the crap out of
• 31:20
  Speaker 3: each other, and blood and guts that's what I want
• 31:24
  Speaker 3: to see.
• 31:26
  Speaker 6: I mean, my god, it's like complaining about the single
• 31:31
  Speaker 6: or the attire that track and field athletes where I mean, yeah,
• 31:35
  Speaker 6: most of the women are smoke shows because they're elite
• 31:38
  Speaker 6: athletes and they have physiques' chiseled other marbles, and the
• 31:40
  Speaker 6: fellows look like gods as well. Like that's just the
• 31:44
  Speaker 6: sport man. That's when you have elite athletes physically, they're
• 31:48
  Speaker 6: likely going to be pretty freaking attractive, you know, and
• 31:51
  Speaker 6: they're all in the twenties and said exactly with professional makeups.
• 31:56
  Speaker 6: So yeah, I mean, that's just the icing on the cake,
• 31:59
  Speaker 6: as seeing it's like a great stunt show with really
• 32:02
  Speaker 6: hot people in there. So this is.
• 32:06
  Speaker 3: This isn't just something Barry that is you know, exclusive
• 32:10
  Speaker 3: to AEW or professional wrestling. I know a lot of
• 32:13
  Speaker 3: people that like professional football teams because the quarterback is cute.
• 32:18
  Speaker 3: I mean, if you watch Track and Field like those people,
• 32:21
  Speaker 3: you know, come on, yeah, I know I agree with you. Well, look,
• 32:27
  Speaker 3: you know, we've been talking about this for a half hour.
• 32:32
  Speaker 3: I think it's time to move on because we're going
• 32:35
  Speaker 3: to talk about blood and guts next Tuesday night. But
• 32:40
  Speaker 3: I think what we've got to talk about is is
• 32:44
  Speaker 3: the Ops. Uh got a trio's match tomorrow night on
• 32:50
  Speaker 3: Dynamite and it's going to be hook Eddie Kingston and Hangman,
• 32:56
  Speaker 3: Tony Shavanni, Adam Page what. I don't know who to
• 32:59
  Speaker 3: call them anymore against the Ops, it's just hang your
• 33:09
  Speaker 3: dressed up as well. Did you see did you see
• 33:14
  Speaker 3: the match card edit I made where I replaced uh yeah,
• 33:19
  Speaker 3: you know, Hangman's Hangman's face with uh.
• 33:23
  Speaker 6: Yeah, And I was like, oh my god, oh my god,
• 33:29
  Speaker 6: so good.
• 33:31
  Speaker 3: Well here's the thing. Okay, So this is a non
• 33:35
  Speaker 3: title match. Uh, the ops are I think there's still
• 33:40
  Speaker 3: the Look, the Trios Championship is so insignificant, I don't
• 33:44
  Speaker 3: know who to held it. The ops still the Trios
• 33:46
  Speaker 3: champions Yeah yeah.
• 33:49
  Speaker 6: Just divisions so much different.
• 33:52
  Speaker 3: I would too, but I would start with I would
• 33:56
  Speaker 3: start and end it with the trash can get rid
• 33:58
  Speaker 3: of the Trios Championships?
• 34:00
  Speaker 6: So so, like, I know people complained about the six
• 34:03
  Speaker 6: and the a man matches. I love them. I think
• 34:05
  Speaker 6: a good party match on a show is great, and
• 34:07
  Speaker 6: I think the Trio's Belts should be the party match title.
• 34:11
  Speaker 6: It totally explains why there's six mans each week. I
• 34:14
  Speaker 6: think they should be defended on TV. I think that
• 34:16
  Speaker 6: should be one of the rules every TV, you know
• 34:18
  Speaker 6: or whatever. But like just put it in that division
• 34:22
  Speaker 6: and then there you go, Like the Trio's division should
• 34:26
  Speaker 6: be where everybody who doesn't have a storyline can go
• 34:29
  Speaker 6: throw some people together, let them put on some party matches,
• 34:31
  Speaker 6: and guess what when you got a program for one
• 34:33
  Speaker 6: or two of them, they drop the belts and then
• 34:35
  Speaker 6: put it.
• 34:36
  Speaker 3: On somebody else.
• 34:37
  Speaker 6: I mean, you're having the matches anyways.
• 34:39
  Speaker 3: Yeah, well, well look can't I just want to ask
• 34:46
  Speaker 3: everybody do you guys agree with me when I say
• 34:52
  Speaker 3: that the Trios Championship needs to be fixed.
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think Barry's idea is a great one.
• 35:05
  Speaker 3: Actually no, yeah, but we've been saying this for since
• 35:11
  Speaker 3: the inception of the Trios Championships. I mean, what was
• 35:14
  Speaker 3: the Seriously, when was the last time that there was
• 35:17
  Speaker 3: a good Trios feud? I would say the last that's good.
• 35:29
  Speaker 3: I would go past that. I would go to all
• 35:32
  Speaker 3: in the first, all in. What was that twenty twenty
• 35:35
  Speaker 3: three at Wembley Stadium we had the Acclaim versus the
• 35:40
  Speaker 3: House of Black. I think they had a pretty good feud.
• 35:43
  Speaker 3: I think there was another team in there.
• 35:45
  Speaker 11: Was it?
• 35:45
  Speaker 3: The patriarchy was in that? I think? I'm not sure?
• 35:49
  Speaker 3: But anyway, since that match, the Trios Championships has been meaningless,
• 35:56
  Speaker 3: completely and utterly meaningless.
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: I'm sorry that you know where I think it went downhill.
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: I think it went downhill with as much as I
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: love these guys, I should preface that, but it went
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: downhill with a Bang Bang Gang when they were like
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: unceremoniously stripped of the trio's titles for god only knows
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: what reason, and it's just sort of been out of
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: whack ever since, I think, well.
• 36:22
  Speaker 6: I agree start yah, I think you're right, Jess like that.
• 36:26
  Speaker 6: At that point that it felt like they were trying
• 36:29
  Speaker 6: to build it back, and then I think Jay got
• 36:33
  Speaker 6: hurt and they had to strip it the first time
• 36:34
  Speaker 6: or something. I don't remember exactly what happened, but but yeah,
• 36:37
  Speaker 6: that's the last time they had any sort of momentum.
• 36:40
  Speaker 6: And I just I just think there isn't a wrong man.
• 36:42
  Speaker 6: If you're if you're not going to have a division
• 36:44
  Speaker 6: and you're not going to have him defended on a
• 36:46
  Speaker 6: regular basis, just combine it with the Ring of Honor
• 36:49
  Speaker 6: title and then they can just go whenever you need it.
• 36:52
  Speaker 6: You know, you don't need both six man tag titles
• 36:54
  Speaker 6: or whatever.
• 36:57
  Speaker 3: Well, the Ops did defend what was it about two
• 36:59
  Speaker 3: week ago? They had the defense they've they've yeah, they
• 37:09
  Speaker 3: had three defenses in the last six months before that.
• 37:12
  Speaker 3: Here's the problem. Here's my problem. And I don't know
• 37:14
  Speaker 3: if you guys agree with this, but this is my
• 37:16
  Speaker 3: problem with having trios belts. It's totally reliant on there
• 37:21
  Speaker 3: being trio's teams to have trios feuds with too many
• 37:24
  Speaker 3: times it's a tag team plus one that's going for
• 37:28
  Speaker 3: the Trios champions. There are no trios teams. The only
• 37:32
  Speaker 3: trio's team out there right now that I could think
• 37:35
  Speaker 3: of off the top of my head is the Ops
• 37:38
  Speaker 3: and possibly the Bang Bang Gang, which they've had one
• 37:41
  Speaker 3: match together. Okay. The second thing is is that when
• 37:45
  Speaker 3: you have three on three, the more men or women
• 37:49
  Speaker 3: you have. But since there are no women's trios champions,
• 37:52
  Speaker 3: just something to speak specifically about the men. When you
• 37:56
  Speaker 3: have three on each side, that's six rustlers. If somebody
• 37:59
  Speaker 3: gets sick or has, you know, God forbid an injury
• 38:04
  Speaker 3: or something like that, it throws the whole thing out
• 38:06
  Speaker 3: of whack. And how many times have we seen that?
• 38:10
  Speaker 3: How many times have we seen the Trios Championships be
• 38:13
  Speaker 3: thrown out of whack because of an injury? Are we
• 38:17
  Speaker 3: going to vacate the title or are we going to
• 38:20
  Speaker 3: just you know, do a free bird it or whatever
• 38:22
  Speaker 3: you want to call it. You know, that's the way
• 38:25
  Speaker 3: it is.
• 38:28
  Speaker 6: I think that's why they need to book the entire
• 38:30
  Speaker 6: division differently. I think you're right, Nelson, like, if if
• 38:35
  Speaker 6: you have belts, you have to focus on on a
• 38:38
  Speaker 6: division for it. Otherwise they're just window dressing. They don't
• 38:41
  Speaker 6: mean anything, and they make the other belt seem less important.
• 38:45
  Speaker 6: So you can you can book the trios titles however
• 38:49
  Speaker 6: you want, but you have to book a division. You
• 38:51
  Speaker 6: can maybe make it the division where the young you know,
• 38:54
  Speaker 6: all of your younger talent you're developing from Ring of
• 38:56
  Speaker 6: Honor and you want to get them a push. All right, Well,
• 38:58
  Speaker 6: get some young guys you're trying to figure out if
• 39:01
  Speaker 6: one of them's got something, and get him on TV
• 39:03
  Speaker 6: and get him a few wins, and get him a
• 39:04
  Speaker 6: win at a pay per view for the Belts and
• 39:06
  Speaker 6: see where it goes. And if it's not working, then
• 39:08
  Speaker 6: have him dropped to somebody else. Like that's why the
• 39:10
  Speaker 6: party match division works. Just do something. It doesn't need
• 39:14
  Speaker 6: to be featured. But if you're not going to run
• 39:16
  Speaker 6: a division, like you said, Kelson, then the Belts should
• 39:18
  Speaker 6: not be in the promotion or not on TV because
• 39:21
  Speaker 6: they don't need anything.
• 39:23
  Speaker 3: Right, Well, going against as I said, going against the
• 39:27
  Speaker 3: Ops tomorrow night in a non title match is going
• 39:30
  Speaker 3: to be hook Eddie Kingston and Hangman Tony Jo body Page.
• 39:36
  Speaker 3: Now let's look at these guys, and we don't have
• 39:39
  Speaker 3: to really talk about hang Man. We know who hang
• 39:41
  Speaker 3: man is, at least we did until you know Dynamite
• 39:44
  Speaker 3: and I have no idea who hangman is. But Hook,
• 39:50
  Speaker 3: what in the hell are we doing with Hook? Seriously,
• 39:54
  Speaker 3: what's going on with Hook? It seems like there's so
• 39:56
  Speaker 3: much start and stop with this guy, so.
• 40:02
  Speaker 4: Go for it.
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: Hook actually has a good, very good reason to be here.
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: Hook was unceremoniously ousted from the ops when he got injured,
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: and he feels he was replaced by Hobbes and basically Joe.
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: When you confronted Joe about it, Joe pretty much said, yeah,
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: you're right, we weren't gonna wait on you. And he
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: has a chip on his shoulder about that. So there
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: you go.
• 40:30
  Speaker 3: Okay, fair enough, but okay, So I'd like to hear
• 40:37
  Speaker 3: where we think we're going with Hook right now. It
• 40:41
  Speaker 3: seems like he's buddy buddy with mister Kingston. And is
• 40:49
  Speaker 3: this partnership a long term thing or is this just
• 40:54
  Speaker 3: a you know, another flash in the pan thing for Hook.
• 41:03
  Speaker 6: I'm hoping they stay together for a bit. And the
• 41:07
  Speaker 6: reason is kind of in line with some of the
• 41:10
  Speaker 6: stuff that frustrates you about Eddie and some other folks.
• 41:14
  Speaker 6: You know, he's getting on in age and he can't
• 41:17
  Speaker 6: go weekly he's coming off injury. But the guy can talk,
• 41:21
  Speaker 6: and he can cut a promo, and he's He's an
• 41:23
  Speaker 6: interesting character on television. I'm interested to watch. I like
• 41:28
  Speaker 6: him as a wrestler, but I'm interested in Eddie Kingston.
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: As a character.
• 41:32
  Speaker 6: Hook is he has zero charisma. In the ring, he
• 41:36
  Speaker 6: moves around. I like his moveset I like his style.
• 41:38
  Speaker 6: But outside of the ring, he has not figured that
• 41:41
  Speaker 6: out yet, and so having himpaired with Eddie for a
• 41:43
  Speaker 6: while can really help develop his character. He needs to
• 41:48
  Speaker 6: talk a little more. He doesn't need to talk a lot,
• 41:49
  Speaker 6: but he's got to figure it out because right now,
• 41:52
  Speaker 6: when he talks, he just sounds like generic wrestler. There's
• 41:56
  Speaker 6: no personality behind his voice. Hoping keeping him with Eddie
• 42:00
  Speaker 6: for a while will help develop that.
• 42:01
  Speaker 3: Barry, let me ask you a specific question. Do you
• 42:04
  Speaker 3: feel that when because I've noticed that Hook has been
• 42:08
  Speaker 3: talking a heck a lot more since he's been partnered
• 42:11
  Speaker 3: with Eddie, would you say that Hook talking and Eddie
• 42:18
  Speaker 3: not talking is bad for Eddie.
• 42:23
  Speaker 6: Cook talking Eddie not talking bad for Eddie.
• 42:26
  Speaker 3: Howe, because talking is Eddie's strength, because it's certainly not wrestling.
• 42:32
  Speaker 3: Talking is Eddi's strength. If you take the strength out
• 42:34
  Speaker 3: of somebody, it's like cutting goliaths hare not whatever Samson's hair.
• 42:39
  Speaker 6: No, I'm not worried about Eddie being able to get
• 42:41
  Speaker 6: back over with the first time he had him a mic.
• 42:44
  Speaker 6: If he's losing any heat in this case, it's there's
• 42:48
  Speaker 6: a finite amount of television time and they really want
• 42:52
  Speaker 6: to develop Hook. They re signed him. He's young. You
• 42:55
  Speaker 6: can see they're really focusing on that young core guys
• 42:58
  Speaker 6: in their mid to late twenties and early thirties the future.
• 43:01
  Speaker 6: They need him to figure this out. So him being
• 43:04
  Speaker 6: with Eddie, if Eddie needs to talk, they'll talk. I'm
• 43:06
  Speaker 6: not worried about that. They know how to handle that.
• 43:08
  Speaker 6: I'm just hoping he really he really helps Hook figure
• 43:11
  Speaker 6: out his character a little bit more.
• 43:13
  Speaker 3: I want to go to Nett. What are your thoughts
• 43:15
  Speaker 3: about this?
• 43:18
  Speaker 11: I like Hook, I think he does need a little
• 43:23
  Speaker 11: guidance and development. And I think if Eddie were to
• 43:27
  Speaker 11: stop wrestling, I think that he would be a good
• 43:30
  Speaker 11: manager and mentor for Hook. And I'm kind of thinking
• 43:34
  Speaker 11: that that is the direction they are actually heading towards,
• 43:38
  Speaker 11: and just trying to do it very slow, very easy,
• 43:43
  Speaker 11: to give Hook time to develop and have his own
• 43:46
  Speaker 11: voice and get those of us that like Eddie Kingston
• 43:51
  Speaker 11: used to the idea of not seeing him in the
• 43:54
  Speaker 11: ring all the time. So I think they're a good
• 43:58
  Speaker 11: matchup together. I think they have a lot of potential
• 44:01
  Speaker 11: and this can set Eddie up for the future.
• 44:05
  Speaker 8: After Hook goes kind.
• 44:07
  Speaker 11: Of out into the world and does his own thing,
• 44:10
  Speaker 11: someone else can come along that needs a voice, needs
• 44:16
  Speaker 11: some refinement, and there's Eddie.
• 44:19
  Speaker 3: Well, let me ask you a specific question here, Nett,
• 44:22
  Speaker 3: and I'd like to get Jess's thoughts on this too,
• 44:25
  Speaker 3: because I know that Nett and Jess are both big
• 44:29
  Speaker 3: Eddie Kingston fans, and this is not notice and this
• 44:33
  Speaker 3: is not meant to belittle.
• 44:34
  Speaker 8: That at all.
• 44:35
  Speaker 3: All Right, So, now with the Hook and Eddie's partnership,
• 44:41
  Speaker 3: where do you specifically see I mean, I know, Nett,
• 44:45
  Speaker 3: you just said when Hook goes off on his own whatnot,
• 44:49
  Speaker 3: But what about before that? What do you see? What
• 44:52
  Speaker 3: would you like to see Hook and Eddie accomplish as
• 44:57
  Speaker 3: a team.
• 45:01
  Speaker 11: I'd like to see them get a little a little
• 45:05
  Speaker 11: revenge on a couple of people that have wronged each
• 45:09
  Speaker 11: of them. I would like to see Hook get a
• 45:13
  Speaker 11: hand up on Samoa Joe and on Hobbs.
• 45:18
  Speaker 8: Eddie versus the.
• 45:20
  Speaker 11: Entire roster, because at some point or another, everyone has
• 45:23
  Speaker 11: pissed him off. So I would like to see them
• 45:27
  Speaker 11: just kind of have a little you know, jumping people backstage,
• 45:34
  Speaker 11: you know, harassing people in their dressing room, making people
• 45:38
  Speaker 11: afraid of them a bit looking over their shoulder.
• 45:45
  Speaker 3: Okay, let's go ahead.
• 45:48
  Speaker 2: I am going to get crucified for this by some
• 45:52
  Speaker 2: people just for suggesting this, But even if just for
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: a little short while, why not Eddie and Hook is
• 46:00
  Speaker 2: your tag team champions?
• 46:02
  Speaker 4: No?
• 46:03
  Speaker 3: No, I mean you're you're lucky. You're lucky that I've
• 46:10
  Speaker 3: already used to shut the hell up. Yeah, somebody, No, Seriously.
• 46:24
  Speaker 12: When you look at Bandido, when you look at Bandido
• 46:27
  Speaker 12: and Brody, you're looking at somebody.
• 46:31
  Speaker 3: You're looking at a team with a lot of charisma
• 46:33
  Speaker 3: and a lot of talent and a lot of experience.
• 46:36
  Speaker 3: I mean, Bandino's got a lot of experience and Brody
• 46:39
  Speaker 3: King's got a lot of experience too, not as much
• 46:42
  Speaker 3: as Bandido, but he's a different element. Hook and Hook
• 46:49
  Speaker 3: is a charisma vacuum and Eddie can't rustle. Why would
• 46:54
  Speaker 3: you put them in that position? That doesn't make any sense.
• 47:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess from your point of view. I mean,
• 47:03
  Speaker 2: if you put them together, they're one whole wrestler, They're.
• 47:08
  Speaker 3: A whole something.
• 47:11
  Speaker 8: They do it with everyone else.
• 47:13
  Speaker 11: I mean there there are worse people who have somehow
• 47:17
  Speaker 11: managed to become champions or on TV every week and
• 47:20
  Speaker 11: you're absolutely sick.
• 47:22
  Speaker 8: And tired of seeing them.
• 47:24
  Speaker 4: No.
• 47:25
  Speaker 3: Look, look, okay, there no one in a e W.
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: I can give you a dozen people.
• 47:36
  Speaker 8: Yeah, there's a bunch of people.
• 47:38
  Speaker 3: Where there are not a dozen people at a w
• 47:42
  Speaker 3: worse than kitten. There you go and you want to
• 47:47
  Speaker 3: know something, and after the go go is not.
• 47:51
  Speaker 6: After your go go is not on TV, because that's
• 47:55
  Speaker 6: what happens.
• 47:56
  Speaker 3: Look, I would want.
• 47:59
  Speaker 5: Any of go go masses before I would choose to
• 48:02
  Speaker 5: plus one Eddie Kingstone.
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: This is this is strictly bad.
• 48:11
  Speaker 3: Let me let me put something. I want to address something.
• 48:13
  Speaker 3: I believe that Nets said when you said something eluding
• 48:18
  Speaker 3: like it's been done before, right, Yeah, that dries me insane.
• 48:23
  Speaker 3: It's been done before. Just because it was done before
• 48:26
  Speaker 3: doesn't mean that it was worth the crap. You know,
• 48:30
  Speaker 3: you keep exactly They're not doing it anymore. They put
• 48:34
  Speaker 3: the belts, they put the belts on. Look, I'm just
• 48:37
  Speaker 3: gonna come out and say it. When it comes to
• 48:40
  Speaker 3: the AW Tag Team Champions, I'm enjoying Brodido probably more
• 48:45
  Speaker 3: than I've enjoyed anyone that's held the Tag Team Champions
• 48:49
  Speaker 3: in the last year and a half, two.
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: Years they fresh.
• 48:53
  Speaker 9: Yeah, I feel like they freshened up the division in
• 48:55
  Speaker 9: the way that Swerve and.
• 48:57
  Speaker 2: I do love me some Brodido. Okay, what if they
• 48:59
  Speaker 2: do win, but just make a really good college try
• 49:02
  Speaker 2: out of it?
• 49:02
  Speaker 6: Can I have that?
• 49:05
  Speaker 8: I need another match match serious contend.
• 49:09
  Speaker 6: Brody is cheering on Bandido from like in that pain
• 49:16
  Speaker 6: never give up, you could do it, and like, I
• 49:20
  Speaker 6: just I don't know what it was about that match,
• 49:22
  Speaker 6: that whole thing, but I just loved that so much.
• 49:24
  Speaker 6: It was just such a it was such an interesting
• 49:27
  Speaker 6: thing that introduced to Brody Lee's or not Brodie Brody
• 49:30
  Speaker 6: King's character that I think too many people overlooked because
• 49:35
  Speaker 6: for most of his tenure it was just like brooding
• 49:37
  Speaker 6: heel and then he started getting popular and like you
• 49:39
  Speaker 6: got the baby face stuff. But like that was just
• 49:41
  Speaker 6: a neat little element because we want to feel like
• 49:44
  Speaker 6: he's a good dude, and when he did that, we're like, yeah,
• 49:47
  Speaker 6: I knew he was a good dude, and it just
• 49:48
  Speaker 6: was so satisfying in that match. So I'm sorry I
• 49:51
  Speaker 6: didn't have a chance to talk about that on a
• 49:52
  Speaker 6: previous show, but I just really wanted to say how
• 49:54
  Speaker 6: much I appreciated that aspect of that tag title match.
• 49:57
  Speaker 3: Not problem. Yeah, So this match tomorrow night is a
• 50:07
  Speaker 3: filler match to me because the and it wouldn't be
• 50:12
  Speaker 3: if the championships were if the belts were being defended.
• 50:16
  Speaker 3: But it doesn't make any sense. This is one of
• 50:21
  Speaker 3: those matches where you look at it and you say, gosh,
• 50:24
  Speaker 3: I hope nobody gets injured before the pay per view.
• 50:28
  Speaker 3: That's the only good thing that can come out of
• 50:30
  Speaker 3: this match to me. Sorry, no, no, no, I don't
• 50:36
  Speaker 3: wish anybody to get injured. I just you know, I
• 50:41
  Speaker 3: want to see good wrestling.
• 50:43
  Speaker 4: I do.
• 50:44
  Speaker 3: I want to see good wrestling, and I want to
• 50:46
  Speaker 3: see good Not every match has to be a title match.
• 50:49
  Speaker 3: That's not what I'm saying, but you know, it's got
• 50:54
  Speaker 3: to mean something, And I'm sorry this match just doesn't
• 50:57
  Speaker 3: mean anything. It's just a It's a filler match, it
• 51:00
  Speaker 3: really is.
• 51:02
  Speaker 4: I forgot to last year.
• 51:04
  Speaker 3: I don't want to.
• 51:06
  Speaker 4: I don't like them, I don't want to see them.
• 51:11
  Speaker 3: Now there is a meaningful match on Dynamite, and that's
• 51:19
  Speaker 3: Mercedes Monet teaming up with Athena taking on Harley Cameron
• 51:25
  Speaker 3: and Willow Nightingale in the quarterfinals of the AW Women's
• 51:29
  Speaker 3: Tag Team champions Championship Tournament. Who do you have winning
• 51:36
  Speaker 3: this match?
• 51:39
  Speaker 2: I think Athena and Mercedes. But this tag team is
• 51:42
  Speaker 2: going to implode before the end of the tournament, you
• 51:45
  Speaker 2: mark my words. These there are two very big egos
• 51:49
  Speaker 2: and they cannot co exist for long.
• 51:53
  Speaker 3: No, there's too many cooks in the ring. I agree
• 51:57
  Speaker 3: with you.
• 51:57
  Speaker 13: There anybody else have any opigon on this? You know,
• 52:01
  Speaker 13: I have said the Mercedes. Now I'm thinking maybe Harley
• 52:07
  Speaker 13: and Willow get the upset.
• 52:08
  Speaker 4: You know.
• 52:11
  Speaker 5: I could see Chris Statlander, you know, causing a distraction,
• 52:15
  Speaker 5: helping out Harley Willow to help build the title mask
• 52:22
  Speaker 5: for Full Gear even more, and you know it, it
• 52:27
  Speaker 5: gives Athene Mercedes an easy out, you know, and there
• 52:33
  Speaker 5: can be tension between them for.
• 52:37
  Speaker 4: The future. Rivalry. That's gotta happen, you know it.
• 52:41
  Speaker 3: That's gotta.
• 52:44
  Speaker 5: Thinking about it now, it makes more. It actually makes
• 52:47
  Speaker 5: sense to have Harley and Willow get the upset with
• 52:51
  Speaker 5: stat Lander kind of causing a distraction, and you can
• 52:56
  Speaker 5: you can do more with them winning.
• 53:00
  Speaker 6: So who eats the pin? And then who's the one
• 53:08
  Speaker 6: getting the pin? I'm interested to hear what you guys think.
• 53:10
  Speaker 6: I have an idea of how they could book this,
• 53:12
  Speaker 6: but I want to hear who you guys think who
• 53:14
  Speaker 6: gets pinned and who's the one that gets the gives
• 53:17
  Speaker 6: the pin.
• 53:19
  Speaker 3: I'm going to say that Mercedes Monette gets pinned and
• 53:23
  Speaker 3: Harley Cameron gets the pin.
• 53:27
  Speaker 4: Yep.
• 53:27
  Speaker 2: I think it's going to be either that.
• 53:29
  Speaker 8: Or the in rooms.
• 53:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree with that.
• 53:33
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I think Harley needs to get the pin because
• 53:37
  Speaker 6: if they're going to run this program again with the
• 53:40
  Speaker 6: two of them, hey, I would be fast. I just
• 53:42
  Speaker 6: want to be clear. I would be fascinated to see
• 53:44
  Speaker 6: these two characters paired up, just hating each other, but
• 53:48
  Speaker 6: just being ridiculously talented so nobody can stop them. I
• 53:51
  Speaker 6: think that would be a fascinating story. But that's not
• 53:54
  Speaker 6: the way they're going. I don't think Harley getting the
• 53:57
  Speaker 6: pin here works perfectly to set up a feud between
• 54:01
  Speaker 6: these two because it's Harley right, as lovable as she is,
• 54:05
  Speaker 6: she sucks. It's Harley Cameron.
• 54:07
  Speaker 3: It's part of her character.
• 54:08
  Speaker 6: She's the one that in the ring when she screws up,
• 54:10
  Speaker 6: we literally hear her say out loud shit, you know,
• 54:12
  Speaker 6: Like that's part of her character. So whoever gets pinned
• 54:16
  Speaker 6: being livid at the other, not that she just got pinned,
• 54:19
  Speaker 6: but she was pinned by Harley Cameron. I just think
• 54:23
  Speaker 6: that that imagery, they're perfect, right, Like she's she's a
• 54:27
  Speaker 6: gag character. That's why she's great, because that's why she's
• 54:32
  Speaker 6: so good. And like you can use getting pinned by
• 54:37
  Speaker 6: Harley Cameron to completely launch a feud between two people,
• 54:40
  Speaker 6: and I hope that's the way they go. And I
• 54:42
  Speaker 6: think it's brilliant because she can rub it in their faces.
• 54:44
  Speaker 6: Oh yeah, well, you know, like I'm a meme. I'm
• 54:47
  Speaker 6: a meme wrestler or a gag character and I got
• 54:49
  Speaker 6: the win on YouTube.
• 54:51
  Speaker 3: Yeah. If for those of you that are not watching
• 54:55
  Speaker 3: the podcast and are listening to it, I put up
• 54:58
  Speaker 3: an image of Harley Cameron will Nightingale. Uh, that was
• 55:02
  Speaker 3: taken last week and Harley Cameron looks like she's getting
• 55:06
  Speaker 3: her face blown off by a gun or something. I mean,
• 55:09
  Speaker 3: her her mouth is just completely you know, askew. I
• 55:14
  Speaker 3: guess it's the best way of putting it, but it's
• 55:16
  Speaker 3: a real picture. I just think it was funny. It's
• 55:20
  Speaker 3: certainly got Bury what he saw it.
• 55:23
  Speaker 6: It was just like I was getting on it just
• 55:25
  Speaker 6: because she's like people don't appreciate how good she is comedically,
• 55:32
  Speaker 6: like her timing, little thing she does. Nope, nope, sorry,
• 55:36
  Speaker 6: I'm yelling at my dog. She's just her character work
• 55:39
  Speaker 6: is I would argue, given time, it could be on
• 55:43
  Speaker 6: par with Tony Storm's character work. Like her, she is
• 55:46
  Speaker 6: so good. She's I mean, she'll get there in the ring,
• 55:49
  Speaker 6: but like character wise, she's.
• 55:51
  Speaker 2: So good, and she's so good at so much stuff too, Like.
• 55:56
  Speaker 6: She's just everything.
• 55:57
  Speaker 3: Yeah, very talented woman, Like it's ridiculous if only she
• 56:02
  Speaker 3: was more attractive. Yeah, that's her. That's her problem.
• 56:09
  Speaker 1: It is unfair.
• 56:13
  Speaker 5: That talented and that she.
• 56:16
  Speaker 6: Speaks like beautiful. She was a former fitness model. She
• 56:20
  Speaker 6: speaks Chinese, she can play the guitar, she sings, she's
• 56:23
  Speaker 6: a ventriloquist. She acts, and then one day she's like,
• 56:26
  Speaker 6: I'm gonna ad pro wrestling to that with like it's
• 56:28
  Speaker 6: it's ridiculous, it really is.
• 56:31
  Speaker 3: I mean, I'm a big Harley fan and uh and
• 56:34
  Speaker 3: I wouldn't even know the thing. You know what's great
• 56:36
  Speaker 3: about Harley? And I mean this sincerely. I could listen
• 56:41
  Speaker 3: to her on the radio, no visuals whatsoever and enjoyed
• 56:46
  Speaker 3: the hell out of it because.
• 56:48
  Speaker 6: She's just ter quick, like yeah, like the charisma. It's
• 56:53
  Speaker 6: there's just some people you're like, how is this a
• 56:55
  Speaker 6: real person? Like they're clearly cheating on their D and
• 56:58
  Speaker 6: D stat sheets. They should not have these stats, like
• 57:00
  Speaker 6: that's against the rules. But they'll come along and just
• 57:04
  Speaker 6: enjoy what they bring to the table, you know.
• 57:07
  Speaker 3: And I'm gonna be I'm gonna now we talked Harley Cameron. Yes,
• 57:11
  Speaker 3: she's hot, beautiful, whatever, right, but I gotta say it
• 57:15
  Speaker 3: right now, And I will say this even though it's
• 57:18
  Speaker 3: probably inappropriate for the show, But I'm gonna say it.
• 57:21
  Speaker 3: Will O Nightingale may just be the prettiest woman in
• 57:25
  Speaker 3: a w period right there. Somebody I don't know will
• 57:40
  Speaker 3: no no, I mean no, I mean is the prettiest
• 57:46
  Speaker 3: woman in a w But.
• 57:53
  Speaker 4: But the women, I don't vault you for your opinions.
• 57:58
  Speaker 6: A men and women's rusters and some attractive folks on
• 58:01
  Speaker 6: them for sure.
• 58:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah, well that's one of the things about professional wrestling.
• 58:06
  Speaker 3: I mean, attractive people are in professional wrestling, and they
• 58:10
  Speaker 3: they're attractive, they're handsome, they're pretty, they obviously take care
• 58:15
  Speaker 3: of their bodies, and they're very athletic. So I mean
• 58:19
  Speaker 3: there are sometimes when I look at some of these
• 58:21
  Speaker 3: matches that these men and women perform in and I'm like,
• 58:25
  Speaker 3: in my prime, when I was an athlete, I'm like,
• 58:32
  Speaker 3: I would have fallen over ten minutes in the match
• 58:34
  Speaker 3: that they're going thirty minutes on. I did want to
• 58:37
  Speaker 3: bring up one other thing specifically about Mercedes Monet. There
• 58:41
  Speaker 3: was a lot of speculation that possibly Mercedes Monet would
• 58:46
  Speaker 3: be going to Wrestle Kingdom twenty to defend somewhat of
• 58:51
  Speaker 3: her belts whatever, possibly against you know, Saya Kamatani, who
• 58:58
  Speaker 3: as the JPW Strong Women's Championship or Shuri who has
• 59:06
  Speaker 3: the IWGP Women's World Championship. Well that's not going to
• 59:12
  Speaker 3: happen because on January fourth, at Russell Kingdom twenty, Saya
• 59:16
  Speaker 3: Kamatani will be facing Shuri in a title versus title match.
• 59:23
  Speaker 3: This card for Russell Kingdom twenty is really stacking up.
• 59:29
  Speaker 3: There's two important things about this card. Well more than that,
• 59:33
  Speaker 3: but it's obviously it's tana Hashi's swan song. We still
• 59:38
  Speaker 3: don't know who Tanahashi is going to face. I don't believe.
• 59:42
  Speaker 3: The second thing is is that it's going to be
• 59:46
  Speaker 3: on TV, which is huge for Japan. This has already
• 59:54
  Speaker 3: sold nearly thirty two thousand tickets already for something that's
• 59:58
  Speaker 3: happening in January fourth. That's amazing. New Japan has been
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 3: struggling because their talent is aging out that they're going
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 3: to other places. I am so thrilled that this is
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 3: going to be a success and it is definitely something
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 3: that I'm looking forward to seeing. So let's move on
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 3: this guy MJF. He just finished, uh finished, well wrapped
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 3: filming a movie. I don't know about any reshoots that
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 3: he's doing. He's probably going to be back soon. I'm
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 3: probably going to be leaving soon to go to film
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 3: another movie because he's got the acting bug. But let's
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 3: not forget that he still has that contract that he
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 3: can execute. Do we see coming back?
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 6: Uh?
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 3: Maybe for full gear?
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 2: Yes, Okay, may I have a moment to present a
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 2: fantasy booking.
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 3: Sure, if you can fantasize all you.
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 2: Want, I'll fantasize about MJF all day long. Goad you
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 2: guy's pretty just ask me. But anyhow, this is how
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 2: I imagine it's going to go down, with some amendments
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 2: to how I originally posted it last night on the
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 2: UH discord.
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 4: I think.
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 2: During the title match, which is going to be, of course,
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 2: Joe versus hang Man again. That's why I think this
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 2: is another big reason I think this is gonna happen,
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 2: because we're getting the same match twice in a row.
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 2: At some point during the climax of the match, the
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 2: lights are going to go out, the lights are gonna
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 2: come back on, and we see MJF beating the Absolutionola
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 2: out of Hangar.
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 4: This.
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 2: Of course, we'll give Joe the match, but not the
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 2: title because Champions of Advantage title doesn't change hands on
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 2: a DQ.
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 4: Everybody knows that.
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 2: But that does lead to a very angry Joe, who
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 2: I imagine will want to have some choice words with
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 2: MJF the next night. MJF and Joe actually do have history,
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 2: especially given World's End. World's End was not a good
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 2: pay per view a few years ago for MJF, partially
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 2: because of Joe. So that will give us our World's
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 2: End match and then Revolution. I believe MJF will cash
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 2: into his contract for his rematch against Oh Hang Man.
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 2: I think maybe he might try it for Worlds In,
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 2: but then like Joe will come out and interrupt him.
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 2: But uh yeah, that's I think that that's my uh
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 2: guess on how it's probably going to go down, all.
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 3: Right, anybody else with any thoughts about what's gonna happen
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 3: with MGF?
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 4: I mean I like that.
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 6: So on the contract he can't cash It's not like
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 6: a money in the bank, Like don't they have to
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 6: do twenty four hours or something? Didn't they change there?
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 3: No, they have to do they have to do seven days, So.
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 6: He can't cash in. So so that scenario is out,
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 6: Oh not necessarily.
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 2: I was gonna say he was going to cash in
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 2: for the pay per view, so like if he if so,
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 2: if like full gear happens, that's when MJF comes back
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 2: the next the next uh dynamite, He says, he's going
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 2: to cash in for World's end and then he winds
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 2: up cashing in for a revolution instead.
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 6: I wouldn't be opposed to to MGF being the one
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 6: to take the belt off Hangar either. They've been setting
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 6: that up.
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 6: I think the way they've done this was to buy
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 6: some time. I think they needed to let this breathe
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 6: for a bit. Having them go again too soon and
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 6: it just didn't make a lot of sense. So I'm
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 6: not opposed to that. I'd be fine with him having
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 6: another run. It would kind of inject some fresh juice
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 6: kind of into the main event seen anyways, and it
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 6: keeps that belt moon between those young guys, those you know,
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 6: new pillars, so to speak of a w And I
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 6: think it's time that we have another two time champ too.
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 2: Peck well in fantasizing he could even win the belt
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 2: do surprise interference from his returning and reconciled bro Chacho.
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 4: Adam Cole.
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 6: Twist better than you.
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 3: I would. I would love to see Adam Cole and
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 3: MGF together is a babyfaced team again, Yeah, I really would. Yeah. Well,
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 3: I know that Adam Coole is a big fan of
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 3: AW fan ofs ignition, So we're thinking about you, buddy.
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 3: And I said that totally tongue in cheek if you
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 3: guys did, because I heard people go I can read
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 3: minds sometimes, like you hear go, what the hell is
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 3: this guy talking about? Shut the hell up? Yeah, So
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 3: let's move on to our last topic, and this one,
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 3: Oh boy, I don't know. Uh, look a w is
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 3: Probably it's kind of weird where where AW is priced
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 3: family friendly, but the product itself isn't as family friend
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 3: friendly as WWE. Now understand, what I'm going to say
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 3: about WWE is really me saying something about t k O,
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 3: not WWE, because I honestly believe that WWE itself does
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 3: not have any kind of strength or it's not there doing.
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 3: What I'm talking about, of course, is where AW has
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 3: family friendly pricing on a you know, you can argue
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 3: with a lot of the stuff that AW does is
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 3: not family friendly. We've talked about this before, but hey,
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 3: that's why it has parental guidance on the TV. Right. Meanwhile,
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 3: TKO prices for you know, to basically send everybody into
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 3: foreclosure for a show that that is a lot more
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 3: family friendly than AW is. Uh, how can AW take
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 3: advantage of this, I mean, should they become more family friendly?
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 2: What did?
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 3: What does AW need to do to secure you know,
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 3: some of that market share?
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 4: Better promotion of their day. I don't think the product
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 4: at all.
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 3: But I okay, wait, hold on every bookay, so everybody
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 3: can't talk at once, so take turns. Can you hear me? Yep?
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 1: Okay? The uh yeah, the uh.
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 9: The island stuff is not every week, right, It's not
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 9: every every week somebody's drinking somebody's blood out of their
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 9: head on TV. I would like to see them tone
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 9: down the language. Frankly, I honestly am like I've had
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 9: enough of the people doing the shut de f up
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 9: chance to don callous, like four times in an episode.
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 9: It's it's lane, like it really is lame. I would
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 9: like to see them maybe clean up language a little bit.
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 9: I don't think it would hurt the show was, but
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 9: it that way, I don't. I'm not so worried about
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 9: the violent stuff like it's I mean, that's what wrestling
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 9: was for, you know, basically since inn WA until WWE
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 9: PG era took over.
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 3: So all right in.
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 5: Regards to the language stuff, I've been to multiple AW
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 5: shows and on quite a few of those I've ended
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 5: up sitting by, you know, parents who had their kids
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 5: with them, And the thing I noticed is always like,
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 5: you know, when the Cowboys shit chance started, the kid
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 5: really wanted to chant it. The parents would like, you
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 5: can chant it here. Remember you can't say that at school.
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 5: I just it feels like a w fans are more
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 5: intelligent about that stuff. They realize this is a show.
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 5: I can allow my kids to have fun at the
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 5: show while teaching them. You can't do that everywhere. So
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 5: I don't think the language is that big of a
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 5: deal in regards to that. No, obviously that's not every parent.
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 5: You know, there are going to be some kids who
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 5: repeat that at school, but okay, that shit happens. I
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 5: don't think they need to change anything other than really
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 5: promoting the shows, finding ways to be like, hey, we're
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 5: gonna be here in a month. You know, this is
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 5: what you can see.
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 4: Our prices are good.
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 5: Yeah, there might be some violence, there might be some language,
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 5: but we've also got guys like Orange Cacity, who if
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 5: kids love.
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 1: Everyone.
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 3: Let me interrupt you, Chris real quick, Homosaur. I don't
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 3: know if that's you typing, but it's certainly your fan
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 3: in the background. You need a mute, buddy.
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 6: I don't.
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 1: I don't have a fan. I don't know what it is.
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 9: It's I think it's just the lack of noise cancelation
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 9: on this.
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 3: Okay, because I could have sworn when your video was up,
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 3: I thought it was you. I saw a fan of
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 3: ceiling fan in the background. Anyway, go ahead, Chris.
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 5: We like plenty of people that are kids front of them.
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 5: You know, Orange Caacity people love dressing up as Darby
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 5: Alt and Willow people love her. She's she's family friendly.
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 5: You know, she's happy.
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 4: It's not he doesn't.
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 5: Just needs to figure out how to really promote their
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 5: shows and be like, hey, we're coming to your town.
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 5: We we have good ticket prices, we have awesome wrestling,
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 5: we have the people that you're gonna love, your kids
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 5: are gonna love. It's that's their biggest problem now is
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 5: the lack of real promotion, especially when coming to new
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 5: towns or new markets.
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 3: Okay, anybody else, go ahead, Barry.
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 6: Didn't they just I think they just hired somebody, and
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 6: I saw I read something on observer wherever they had
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 6: hired or maybe fightful somebody to focus specifically on marketing.
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 6: And you know, I haven't just had a show here,
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 6: why not just out of town in Lakeland. There wasn't
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 6: much local promotion that I saw. I knew about it
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 6: because I watched TV. I don't think there's much they
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 6: can do price wise either. I mean, their prices are
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 6: about as reasonable as it gets. I don't know, No,
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 6: I agree from a show standpoint. You know, I just
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 6: have a hard time thinking that these kids don't see
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 6: anything worse every night playing video games or watching regular
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 6: television or what they see in pro wrestling.
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 3: Maybe let's not forget all the great stuff that you
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 3: could see just looking at your cell phone as a kid.
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 6: Maybe you know it's different because it's live as opposed
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 6: to a video game or you know, a regular single
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 6: camera show or whatnot. But it's a hard call, Kelson,
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 6: I don't know if there's a good answer there. I
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 6: think really it comes down in marketing, and they just
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 6: need to keep consistent to build some buzzz. If you
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 6: get hot, people are gonna show up regardless.
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 3: So that's you know, one of the things. You know,
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 3: one of the things Barry that I've often said about
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 3: well back when WWE was WWF, I thought that they
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 3: got off to a really really good promotional thing. Look
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 3: back in the days when w WWF was probab but
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 3: was you know, you had talk shows like you know,
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 3: our Cineo Hall that was hip with the younger audiences,
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 3: you know, and our Citio Hall had a lot of
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 3: AW I mean WWE or WWF wrestlers on it, and
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 3: they were popular, you know. And I think that's something
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 3: that AW needs to do, is get their guys and
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 3: women in the mainstream. I just I think that's smart.
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 6: Yeah, Warner for help. I'm not sure what they do.
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 6: You know, maybe that's what the marketing person is going
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 6: to do, is focus on on those because I you know,
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 6: I remember the Mantro manor Andy Savage appearance on on
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 6: Our Sitting Own some of the other stuff, or they
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 6: being Jay Leno sometimes too.
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 3: A couple of Yeah, Barry, I gotta ask, how are
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 3: you talking like that with the squeak dway in your mouth?
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 6: I was hoping you guys didn't hear that.
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 14: Sorry, you're just you're being You're like, he's not even
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 14: to acknowledge his dog, Karen, No, I don't Yeah, anyway,
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 14: anybody else with an opinion.
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 2: On this, Uh, yeah, I think the absolute worst thing
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 2: AW could possibly do is tone down their product. I
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 2: think they've hit a great stride where I once favorably
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 2: compared AW to ECW, not just because of the violence,
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 2: but because ECW at its core was a whole gumutt
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 2: of things that you couldn't see anywhere else, like all
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 2: sorts of different styles wrestlers from all over the world.
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 2: I think AEW is a great successor to ECW, and
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 2: I wouldn't tone that. I wouldn't tone down what's a
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 2: unique selling point of your company. I do agree that
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 2: marketing might better marketing. Like a couple of years ago,
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 2: TNA did one of their pay per views here in
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 2: Columbus and there were billboards all over the place, like
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 2: you know, the like the light up billboards, Like I
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 2: can't remember the name of the pay per view. I
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 2: know the I know that Alex Shelley won the title
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 2: add it. But anyway, that was the show. That was
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 2: the show it was. But I'd like to see like
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 2: AEW do something like that.
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 6: ACW back in the day was like the original promotion
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 6: that just celebrated pro wrestling. That was kind of their personality,
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 6: Like it was just a celebration of pro wrestling, and
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 6: you do get some of those vibes from AW, and
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 6: maybe that's the identity they market, but I don't know
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 6: if they really have a marketing strategy. And you're not
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 6: going to get hot alone just hoping your product catches
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 6: on TV, like, you got to push it and get
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 6: in front of people. And I think you're right, Helston.
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 6: They new ways to get in front of people to
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 6: make them consider tuning in because the venues they're using
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 6: now they're clearly not not doing enough.
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, and also you got to take advantage
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 3: of honestly, the weak part of WWE right now, I mean, creatively,
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 3: WWE is not doing well and they're pushing and using
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 3: you know, I call it the WWE nostalgia Tour because frankly,
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 3: a lot of what they're presenting on TV or you know,
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 3: guys that are fifty years old either on the wrong
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 3: side or the right side of fifty. But there's practic
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 3: The matter is they're close to fifty, you know, and
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 3: aw's got younger wrestlers and the in my opinion, it's
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 3: not anything that can be done quickly. It's the fact
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 3: that AW has to attract younger fans, so that these
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 3: younger fans can grow up with AW just like young
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 3: fans grew up with WWE. Problem with WWE right now
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 3: is that they're young fans I grew up with them
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 3: are now old as their old wrestlers are aging as well.
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 3: So I hope that WAW can do something to gain
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 3: the younger audience to grow with them. I guess it's
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 3: the best way to put it. So anyway, let's move
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 3: on to our very last segment and see if anybody
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 3: has anything to say here, and that is our potpourri segment.
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 3: Is there anything that you guys want to say about
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 3: anything in for wrestling or whatever?
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 2: Go ahead, Jess, Okay, just a springboarding off the last
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 2: topic WWE. My favorite WWE pay per view of the
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 2: year born on is the Royal Rumble. I don't think
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 2: the same, ye, I don't think that's the unpopular opinion.
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 2: Everybody loves the Royal Rumble. What, may I ask is
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 2: the best part of the Worldroyal Rumble? Take a wild
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 2: guess to me.
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 3: The entrances, the entrances and the surprises that can come
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 3: with them.
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 4: That's it. That's exactly what I was looking for.
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 2: The surprise is you never know what's going to happen
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 2: at the Royal Rumble. Since anybody can be in it,
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 2: it's a perfect time to, you know, pop the audience
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 2: with a cool surprise. You will not be getting any
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 2: surprises whatsoever at the next Royal Rumble because the next
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 2: Royal Rumble is going to be in Saudi Arabia and
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 2: they cannot logistically surprise anyone because of they have to
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 2: do their travel travel plans so far in advance. So congratulations,
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 2: wwe you ruined the Royal Rumble.
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 3: Hmm, interesting point. I'll have to look into that. I guess. Yeah,
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 3: somebody can say, yeah, so and so is uh in
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 3: Saudi Arabia. You know, here's their itinerary. I guess it
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 3: would be kind of hard to fly somewhere where you
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 3: can drive Indiana. It was all the United States. That
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 3: makes sense, anybody else with the potpourri? I have one ahead.
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 8: It's about the Young Bucks.
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 3: Oh boy, oh yeah.
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 11: This week I watched their little show on YouTube where
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 11: they were learning the value of friendship and they could
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 11: not understand why everyone was being so nice to them
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 11: and so gracious when they had been jerks for so
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 11: long and Brandon explained to them that they had been
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 11: friends for years and this is how you treat your friends.
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 11: I think that the young Bucks are about to make
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 11: up with Kenny Omega, and there has been that noise
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 11: in the background of don Kallis having the Young Bucks
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 11: join his family. I think that something is going to
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 11: happen where Callous thinks he has his way and the
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 11: young Bucks are joining and they're going to turn around
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 11: and join with Kenny to run wild through the Callous family.
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 11: And I almost want to say that somehow Takesha is
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 11: going to play a role in this, if not him Okada.
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  Speaker 8: But I'm not so sure.
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  Speaker 11: I'm a little on the fence with Okada because Helopata
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 11: is the best. But I definitely think that they are
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 11: going to reunite with Kenny, and I've been waiting for
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 11: it for quite a long time.
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  Speaker 8: And I think it's just going to be fabulous.
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  Speaker 2: Oh gneeze, that doesn't Yeah, that sounds lovely.
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  Speaker 8: It does. So let's hope it happens, because it's going
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 8: to be good.
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  Speaker 1: I think you're on something. I think it does go
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  Speaker 1: through Takesha.
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  Speaker 9: I know, like people have rightfully said, the don Kellis
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 9: family has four hundred thousand people in it, but the
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 9: the momentum is kind of against them, Like Ta is leaving,
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 9: the Bucks are probably gonna join Tkeshta and end up
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 9: end up aligning with him. Fletcher is probably gonna leave
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 9: if Tkesha leaves. That's a huge loss for that. Like
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 9: the there's the Face is kind of like in a
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 9: long term capacity, especially with the Death Riders continuing to
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 9: get whooped. It's it feels like the Faces have a
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 9: lot of momentum right now actually, like kind of behind the.
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 8: Scenes, you know, yeah, don't let's see what happens. I
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 8: hope I'm right.
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 3: All right? Anybody else have a potporiri?
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 5: I got a little one. It's kind of a non
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 5: a w Recently, they put out New Japan or Tim Reyu.
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 5: I don't know who put the show out, but it
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 5: was a show with a shirt with tim Yu and
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 5: show to Umino, and some of the comments about this
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 5: herd from people like people literally wishing death upon show
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 5: to Umino for being on the same shirt. It's like,
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 5: did these idiots not realize if Tim right, you didn't
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 5: want Stowts on that shirt, he wouldn't have been on it.
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 5: Like it fans just like they think they're talk they're
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 5: speaking up for these wrestlers, and he shouldn't be compared
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 5: to him. It's like Tim right, you is obviously a
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 5: fan of show to Umano, he wouldn't have been on
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 5: the shirt if he wasn't. Just the way some fans
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 5: talk about wrestlers they don't like.
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, we have learned nothing from Hannah Kamura's incident.
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 3: And I ain't even saying it, saying it as an incident,
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 3: but yeah, fans need to shut the hell up. I mean,
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 3: that's poor.
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 4: Like I make some jokes about Eddie Kingston and stuff
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 4: like that. I'm not a.
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 3: Fan, but.
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 5: I'm joking around, like I don't want him injured. I
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 5: don't want him, I don't want bad things that happens.
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 5: I just don't care to see them on my TV
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 5: spring And like that's fine. You could say I don't
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 5: like this, I don't want to see them, But when
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 5: you're wishing to have upon them, you're just the worst
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 5: kind of person.
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 6: That's it.
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's it. Anybody else with the potpourri.
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 1: Go uf the ec Ultimate Party. If you didn't, it
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 1: was a really good show.
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 3: There you go, all right, I just want to remind
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 3: the podcasters to stick around after the podcast ends and
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 3: wait for your recording to upload. We will be back
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 3: tomorrow night after Dynamite for all of the talk, which
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 3: is a twenty to twenty five minute review of AW Dynamite.
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 3: We do it quick. We're not long winded. We just
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 3: say what's on our mind and move on. Appreciate, appreciate
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 3: everybody that came in tonight, and we will see you
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 3: next week. Offer ignition at eight forty five Eastern Time
• 1:24:06
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• 1:24:09
  Speaker 3: a lot, probably about blood and guts because that happens
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 3: Wednesday night next week. So forty AW Fan HUBB Podcast team.
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 3: This is Kelson. Good night, everybody.
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 2: Good night,