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The Kenny Report | 22 July · The Kenny Report

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  Speaker 1: Lare from the Skoing New Center. This is the Kenny Report.
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  Speaker 2: Thanks for joining me tonight.
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  Speaker 3: The Alberzi government's sickening stand on the war in Gaza
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  Speaker 3: so bad it's drawn support from the Islamist terrorists of Hummas.
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  Speaker 3: As Parliament sits for the first time under Albanesi re elected,
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  Speaker 3: the Prime Minister shows how he's still the master at
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  Speaker 3: ducking responsibility. I'll cross to Israel to find out what's
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  Speaker 3: happening to the Druze communities in the Middle East and
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  Speaker 3: why Israel is defending them. An exclusive interview with the
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  Speaker 3: Greens co founder, who says the party's now been overtaken
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  Speaker 3: by a transgender cult hunter. Biden finally opens up and
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  Speaker 3: it's amazing. I'll show you plenty of delusion with plenty
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  Speaker 3: of beeps with Kristen Tate. Also do we need the
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  Speaker 3: ABC keeping kids safe? And much more with Tim Blairsusio
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  Speaker 3: O'Brien and Stephen Senna Tempei.
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  Speaker 2: Let's get into it now.
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  Speaker 3: Parliament sat today for the first time since the Albanezi
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  Speaker 3: Labor government was returned for its second term, and what
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  Speaker 3: a site to behold. It was Labour's ninety four seats,
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  Speaker 3: a record Hall sees government benches sweep right around the
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  Speaker 3: other side of the chamber a massive nineteen seat majority.
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  Speaker 3: Such power in such an ordinary government is a bit
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  Speaker 3: of a worry. You'll remember one of my main criticisms
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  Speaker 3: of Albanesi's first term was how he never seemed to
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  Speaker 3: take responsibility for anything.
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  Speaker 4: I've been traveling in the car, so I haven't been
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  Speaker 4: advised about that. Orse, such state bail schemes are run
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  Speaker 4: by the state, a big Australia and independent body, and
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  Speaker 4: the government doesn't direct.
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  Speaker 2: Them on what to do.
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  Speaker 4: This is not my proposal. This is the Australian people's proposal.
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  Speaker 4: State and churchary governments are respectible primarily for those issues.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the old elbow and with the help of
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  Speaker 3: the Robinson brothers we put it to music.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, we had a lot of fun.
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  Speaker 3: The bad news is that in an interview last night
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  Speaker 3: we saw that Albo Mark two is no different. He's
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  Speaker 3: still passing the buck and failing to take responsibility for
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  Speaker 3: just about anything.
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  Speaker 5: You say you want universal childcare to be your legacy.
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  Speaker 5: How much responsibility does the government bear for the current crisis,
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  Speaker 5: given that the government has pushed the sector to grow
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  Speaker 5: very quickly ahead of putting proper standards in place and
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  Speaker 5: being sure that those standards were being policed. Do you
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  Speaker 5: bear some responsibility.
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  Speaker 4: Governments have not done well enough across the board?
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  Speaker 5: Simple?
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  Speaker 4: Is that something that Jason Claire, our minister, I heard
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  Speaker 4: say on this very program. Well, South Australia. We have
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  Speaker 4: a range of ministers who've been on the ground there.
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  Speaker 4: I saw reports of Mark Butler and others. This is
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  Speaker 4: primarily primarily been in state waters.
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  Speaker 5: So one wasn't mentioned.
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  Speaker 2: No, we were.
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  Speaker 4: Talking not so much about heavy policy issues.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, why would he talk about heavy policy issues with
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  Speaker 6: the president of China? And of course you know what
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  Speaker 6: all this means, don't you take it away? Look, it's
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  Speaker 6: early days, of course, but we'll try to keep the
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  Speaker 6: government's feet to the fire.
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  Speaker 2: It's going to be a long haul.
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  Speaker 3: That we've got to try to ensure that they deliver
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  Speaker 3: better for this great country.
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  Speaker 2: It's our responsibility.
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  Speaker 3: Labour's weakness, its willingness to mislead and dissemble on foreign policy,
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  Speaker 3: is laid bare today in the most egregious way. Remember,
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  Speaker 3: Anthony Albanezi is fresh back from his trip to the
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  Speaker 3: communist dictatorship of China, a regime that backs malevolent warmongers
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  Speaker 3: like Iran and Russia, and a regime that's bullied Australia
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  Speaker 3: economically and militarily. And our Prime minister did not utter
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  Speaker 3: one word of even the mildest criticism of China.
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  Speaker 2: He just rolled over.
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  Speaker 3: Yet today the Albanesi government joined other jellybacked governments and
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  Speaker 3: issued a statement highly critical of our ally Israel, a
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  Speaker 3: country that's fighting for its very existence in a war
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  Speaker 3: against Hummas it didn't start, and while it suffered missile
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  Speaker 3: attacks from Hesbalah in Lebanon, the Hutis from Yemen and
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  Speaker 3: directly from Iran. This statement calls for a ceasefire, effectively
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  Speaker 3: demanding that Israel stop pursuing Hummas, even while a ceasefire
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  Speaker 3: approved by Israel has been on the table for Hummas
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  Speaker 3: to accept since last week.
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  Speaker 2: If you want to understand how bad this statement is.
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  Speaker 3: Note that it's been welcomed by Hummus itself on social media.
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  Speaker 3: Think of that Australian foreign policy has sunk so low
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  Speaker 3: that it's been welcomed by the Hummus Islamist terrorist outfit.
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  Speaker 3: The same mob that murders men, women and children, rapes
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  Speaker 3: and tortures them, takes them hostage, still holds them hostage
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  Speaker 3: and uses its own people as human shields and propaganda tools,
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  Speaker 3: and Hummas welcomes the Albanezy government's foreign policy.
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  Speaker 2: What a sickening moment for our country.
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  Speaker 3: Our major ally, the US describes the statement that Australia
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  Speaker 3: has signed as disgusting.
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  Speaker 2: It sure is.
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  Speaker 3: There's only one reason the war is still going, and
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  Speaker 3: that's because Hummas keeps fighting rather than agree to that
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  Speaker 3: cease fire. It's terrorizing its own people, keeping Israeli hostages
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  Speaker 3: alive and dead, and it's attacking Israel. The more you
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  Speaker 3: know about this, the worse it is. The statement Australia
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  Speaker 3: put its name to mentions eight hundred Palestinians killed while
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  Speaker 3: accessing AID, and it blames Israel for the denial of
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  Speaker 3: humanitarian assistance. This is a deliberate distortion, blatant blame shifting.
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  Speaker 3: There's only one reason anyone has died at an AID
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  Speaker 3: delivery center, and that is because Hummus opposes them. Hummas
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  Speaker 3: has warned Palestinians not to accept this aid. It's fired
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  Speaker 3: on them for trying to get the aid. It's killed
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  Speaker 3: AID workers and it's sparked fighting with Israel. That's led
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  Speaker 3: to more deaths. Hummus is the problem, not the lack
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  Speaker 3: of aid. And why does Hummas do this because it
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  Speaker 3: wants the United Nations aid deliveries to start again. Because
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  Speaker 3: the UN gives the aid directly to Hummus, then Humas
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  Speaker 3: hoards it to feed its terrorists, and it sells the
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  Speaker 3: rest of this free aid to the people of Gaza
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  Speaker 3: to fund its ongoing war.
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  Speaker 2: What a disgrace.
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  Speaker 3: Yet Australia signs up to the Hummus version of events.
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  Speaker 3: The way much of the media reports this is that
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  Speaker 3: Israel and the US have set up an alternative aid
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  Speaker 3: delivery system, spending billions of dollars and risking their own lives,
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  Speaker 3: and then it's shooting and killing the very people it's
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  Speaker 3: delivering its aid to. The claim is absolutely absurd and
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  Speaker 3: it underscores just how insane the anti Israeli bias is
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  Speaker 3: in the media and the broader political world.
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  Speaker 2: The only group with.
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  Speaker 3: A vested interest in disrupting the new aid delivery system
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  Speaker 3: is the terrorist group of humm Us, Yet we continue
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  Speaker 3: to get jaundiced coverage.
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  Speaker 7: Around one hundred people died in this single incident, according
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  Speaker 7: to the Gars and Health Ministry, Israel disputes the figure,
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  Speaker 7: saying its soldiers came under threat trying to control a
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  Speaker 7: crowd of thousands.
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  Speaker 3: The Gazan health Ministry is humm Us. Every number and
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  Speaker 3: every claim that comes out of Gaza is not to
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  Speaker 3: be believed. It all comes directly from Hummus. Yet our
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  Speaker 3: politicians here parrot it, and protesters, including outside Parliament House
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  Speaker 3: in Canberra today, continue to demonize Israel and provide tacit
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  Speaker 3: support for Hamas. This placard yesterday even paraded a photo
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  Speaker 3: of Jaga Sinhwa and one of his propaganda mouthpieces, both
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  Speaker 3: since killed. Sinhwa was the leader of the October the
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  Speaker 3: seventh massacre, the deliberately grotesque massacre of twelve hundred people,
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  Speaker 3: including young girls and babies, and the capture of two
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  Speaker 3: hundred and fifty hostages, all designed to spark a war
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  Speaker 3: in the name of his Islamist cause. Yet protesters in
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  Speaker 3: Australia lord this evil murderer, this deceased Islamist extremist terrorist.
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  Speaker 3: What a terrible time for our country to sink to
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  Speaker 3: these depths, and the words and actions of our own
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  Speaker 3: government give suka to these protesters, rather than correct the propaganda,
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  Speaker 3: rather than insist on facts. Our foreign minister goes with
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  Speaker 3: the flow of the protesters.
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  Speaker 8: I think that statement reflects they're all distressed that Australians,
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  Speaker 8: So many Australians feel about what they're seeing in Gaza.
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  Speaker 8: They are concerned, distressed by the catastrophic humanitarian situation that
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  Speaker 8: we are seeing.
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  Speaker 3: Apart from being wrongheaded, this is an admission that foreign
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  Speaker 3: policy is being directed by domestic political intentions. There is
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  Speaker 3: no doubt that innocent civilians have been killed in Gaza
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  Speaker 3: and are still suffering appallingly. That's the horrible toll of war.
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  Speaker 3: This is an ongoing tragedy, and the sooner it ends,
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  Speaker 3: the better, and the more Israel does to minimize civilian
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  Speaker 3: casualties the better. But first, the numbers and even specific
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  Speaker 3: examples banded at can't be trusted. They are hum us propaganda,
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  Speaker 3: even often overstating casualties and even inventing claims against Israel.
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  Speaker 3: These are lies repeated by Western media, and I've detailed
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  Speaker 3: many of them here before. But second, the only reason
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  Speaker 3: any suffering is still occurring is humm us. As I said,
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  Speaker 3: there's a ceasefire on the table, there are hostages to
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  Speaker 3: hand over. They can stop fighting tomorrow and it's all done.
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  Speaker 3: But they don't want peace. They want endless war with Israel.
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  Speaker 9: And the more that world.
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  Speaker 3: Opinion from countries like Australia condemns Israel, the longer they'll fight.
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  Speaker 3: Because HUMMUS wants exactly that. The demonization of Israel is
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  Speaker 3: they're intoxicant. It makes them believe they can one day
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  Speaker 3: eradicate Israel. But so many politicians, journalists and protesters either
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  Speaker 3: do not understand this or they pretend not to. Our
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  Speaker 3: own foreign minister won't even address the reality of the
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  Speaker 3: aid crisis that she says needs fixing.
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  Speaker 8: I think it's self evident that insufficient eighty is going
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  Speaker 8: into GUS. I don't think anybody disputes that.
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  Speaker 2: And who's responsible.
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  Speaker 8: Well, yeah, we just want aid to go in, right.
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  Speaker 8: I know that people want a political argument.
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  Speaker 3: No, we want solutions. And the statement Wong signed up
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  Speaker 3: to blames Israel for the AID crisis, which is clearly wrong.
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  Speaker 3: And from that answer to Andrew Clenell's question, it seems
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  Speaker 3: that Wong knows it's wrong because she wouldn't repeat it.
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  Speaker 3: Not only is Wong's activist anti Israeli stance supported by HUMMAS,
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  Speaker 3: it's also welcomed by the Greens, whose leader is also
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  Speaker 3: running wild unsubstantiated claims.
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  Speaker 10: We are seeing legions of people die by starvation and
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  Speaker 10: we could be doing more to help. When I think
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  Speaker 10: Australians want us to do more to.
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  Speaker 3: Help, Well, there are no facts to support that claim.
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  Speaker 3: If legions were dying of starvation, I think the Hummus
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  Speaker 3: propaganda machine would have it out there.
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  Speaker 2: But listen to how the.
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  Speaker 3: ABC just opens It might opens its microphone for more
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  Speaker 3: demonization of Israel.
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  Speaker 8: Do you believe that genocide is unfolding now in Gaza?
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  Speaker 10: We do believe that, and many other international law experts
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  Speaker 10: are also of that view. And this is a crime
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  Speaker 10: of starvation. This is innocent civilians who are being sent
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  Speaker 10: to an early demise and hospitals are being bombed like
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  Speaker 10: the atrocities are unimaginable to many Australians.
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  Speaker 3: Really, is Israel committing atrocities a country that has investigated
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  Speaker 3: and answered every allegation made against it. It's the pariah,
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  Speaker 3: not the bloodthirsty Islamist jihardess of Hummus. The standard of
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  Speaker 3: debate and the spineless journalism on this issue is almost inconceivable. Thankfully,
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  Speaker 3: the opposition leader is showing a better understanding of the
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  Speaker 3: facts and more moral clarity than we might have expected
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  Speaker 3: given her background with the Parliamentary Friends of Palestine.
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  Speaker 11: The first and most important thing to say about this
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  Speaker 11: issue is that there are still hostages in Gaza. There
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  Speaker 11: are still hostages hidden in tunnels, and a way to
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  Speaker 11: end the situation is for those hostages to be released
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  Speaker 11: by the terrorists Hamas who control so much of the
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  Speaker 11: activity there. Of course, we want to see aid reach
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  Speaker 11: those who deserve it, but it is so important that
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  Speaker 11: her mass that has control often over the flow of
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  Speaker 11: that aid, but certainly over the ongoing, completely unacceptable detention
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  Speaker 11: of those hostages, act in the interests of the people
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  Speaker 11: of Gaza. It's very important that we understand where this
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  Speaker 11: conflict started and who has the opportunity and responsibility for
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  Speaker 11: ending it, and that is ho.
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  Speaker 2: Well said.
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  Speaker 3: Let me leave the last word to the media. Is
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  Speaker 3: more of Sky News UK.
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  Speaker 7: As the UN called for its stockpiles of food to
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  Speaker 7: be allowed in from neighboring countries, and Britain joined more
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  Speaker 7: than twenty other nations to demand an immediate CEASEPAR Israel
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  Speaker 7: issued displacement orders to thousands more people in dear Albala
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  Speaker 7: in central Gaza, showing no sign of wanting the war
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  Speaker 7: to end.
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  Speaker 2: Really, Israel doesn't want the war to end.
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  Speaker 3: That's the anti Israeli mindset in a nutshell, isn't it.
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  Speaker 3: The one actor in the region that promotes peace, just
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  Speaker 3: wants people to live peacefully within their own borders. The
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  Speaker 3: one liberal democracy operating openly under the rule of law.
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  Speaker 3: The one country forced to defend itself from unprovoked attacks
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  Speaker 3: by nation states and Islamus terrorists for every day of
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  Speaker 3: its existence. The country that has a ceasefy ideal on
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  Speaker 3: the table. That's the country that doesn't want to end
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  Speaker 3: the war. The coverage and debate are just so jaundiced
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  Speaker 3: that people don't seem to understand how absurd their words
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  Speaker 3: have become. I want to go to domestic politics and
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  Speaker 3: some upheaval in the Greens. The Greens have turned on
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  Speaker 3: one of their own, a co founder, no less Drue Hutton.
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  Speaker 3: How He's been kicked out of the party after he
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  Speaker 3: complained about moves to expel members over supposedly transphobic comments.
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  Speaker 3: The party found that although Hutton didn't demean trans women,
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  Speaker 3: he provided a platform for others to join the pylon
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  Speaker 3: in the Australian Today, mister Hutton wrote, the fact is
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  Speaker 3: that the Greens in a number of states have been
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  Speaker 3: taken over by a cult, a transgender and a queer
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  Speaker 3: cult that's come to control key decision making positions in
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  Speaker 3: the party. Through Hutton now joins me live from Brisbane.
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  Speaker 2: Good to speak to you, Drew. I appreciate your time.
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  Speaker 3: I'm just confused as to why a transgender and queer
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  Speaker 3: cult would want to take over the Greens and how
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  Speaker 3: they've been able to do it.
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  Speaker 12: Well, they've taken over more than the Greens, I'm afraid,
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  Speaker 12: But the Greens are the main thing that I'm concerned
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  Speaker 12: about because that's the party I have belonged to and
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  Speaker 12: in fact founded here in Queensland. But they've taken it
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  Speaker 12: over as part of a whole campaign to in fact
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  Speaker 12: obliterate the whole notion of biological sex and replace it
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  Speaker 12: with the notion that you are in terms of your
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  Speaker 12: gender what you say you are. So if I'm a man,
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  Speaker 12: I say i'm a woman. I'm a woman and I
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  Speaker 12: can do anything that a woman can do, which is
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  Speaker 12: a lot of women who are concerned about women's rights.
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  Speaker 12: I think rightly upset about.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think so. We've covered those issues a lot
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  Speaker 2: on this station.
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  Speaker 3: But also it is an understandable area of debate, and
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  Speaker 3: nobody wants to discriminate against transgender people. So surely the
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  Speaker 3: Green's Party could tolerate a divergence of views within its ranks.
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  Speaker 12: Now, you see, this is part of the definition of
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  Speaker 12: a cult. A cult has a closed section of ideas
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  Speaker 12: that it understands but nobody else does. They've got some
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  Speaker 12: language that they understand but nobody else does. And anybody
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  Speaker 12: within their ranks who deviates from the standard set of
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  Speaker 12: beliefs that they have is punished ruthlessly. Any descent is
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  Speaker 12: just simply not tolerated. And that's what's happened here. Not
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  Speaker 12: that I did anything that was dissenting. Really, all I
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  Speaker 12: did was have a couple of posts which they which
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  Speaker 12: basically agreed with the Green's policy on gender. I don't
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  Speaker 12: agree with it now, but I did at that stage
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  Speaker 12: because I was, I mean, I was happily in retirement,
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  Speaker 12: was burnt out old Greenie you know, who was retired
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  Speaker 12: and didn't know any of all this that was going on.
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  Speaker 12: But I put a couple of posts up and a
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  Speaker 12: number of a large number of people responded to it,
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  Speaker 12: and some of them were arguing that there is such
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  Speaker 12: a thing as biological sex, and there are biological males
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  Speaker 12: and biological female.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 12: Those comments were from people who weren't even members of
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  Speaker 12: the Greens for the most part, were regardless transphobic, and
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  Speaker 12: they said that I was responsible for those Yeah. I said, well,
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  Speaker 12: I'm not. I'm not here to send for other people's views.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. It seems very intolerant in itself.
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  Speaker 3: And I would have thought, just as we talk about
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  Speaker 3: in the environmental debate, you should follow the science. There's
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  Speaker 3: a lot of science involved when it comes to sex,
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  Speaker 3: and there are two sexes. But let me go to
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  Speaker 3: one of your posts where you said publicly, I believe
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  Speaker 3: in full human rights for transpers people at the same
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  Speaker 3: time as supporting the right of women to be free
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  Speaker 3: from patriarchy's oppression. I'm also prepared to say these things publicly.
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  Speaker 3: Unfortunately the Greens at present, in the Greens at present,
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  Speaker 3: that would seem to make me a transphob And here's
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  Speaker 3: what the current Greens leader, Larissa Waters has said about
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  Speaker 3: all this.
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  Speaker 10: What we saw was a party run process where folk
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  Speaker 10: could have a say and our members drive that process
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  Speaker 10: as they always do, and there was an appeal that
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  Speaker 10: was heard and a decision was taken and the party
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  Speaker 10: has now finished that process. So it's not something that
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  Speaker 10: as the parliamentary leader I have a role in. And
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  Speaker 10: it's the first day of federal parliament Sally, so I'm
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  Speaker 10: focused on the climate crisis.
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  Speaker 3: So, Drew Hutton, have you been treated fairly? Is there
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  Speaker 3: democracy and fairness inside the Greens?
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  Speaker 13: No?
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  Speaker 12: No, not on this issue anyway. The right around Australia,
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  Speaker 12: transactive and Zealots extremists have taken over the key committees
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  Speaker 12: in the Greens, including most importantly in the disciplinary committees,
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  Speaker 12: so that anybody who says something they disagree with immediately
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  Speaker 12: a plant a complaint goes in. The committees themselves are
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  Speaker 12: controlled by these transactivists, as was the case with me.
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  Speaker 12: All five members of that committee were activists. They were
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  Speaker 12: part of a Facebook site which was called Turf Turfs
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  Speaker 12: from the Greens. Turf is a gender critical feminists so
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  Speaker 12: they were all activists in this issue and they came
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  Speaker 12: up with the idea that I would be suspended. That
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  Speaker 12: turned into a permanent suspension lasted over two years. I
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  Speaker 12: complained about the fact that it was a turn into
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  Speaker 12: a permanent suspension, so they turned it into an expulsion.
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  Speaker 12: It is not a fair process. I walked into that
• 21:56
  Speaker 12: room the other day in the state Council meeting. There
• 21:59
  Speaker 12: wasn't a friendly base in the room. The whole room
• 22:02
  Speaker 12: was full, with a few minor exceptions with people who
• 22:06
  Speaker 12: were active on this issue. They had their minds made
• 22:09
  Speaker 12: up before they walked in.
• 22:10
  Speaker 3: It's a terrible way to treat someone who's been a
• 22:12
  Speaker 3: lifelong environmentalist, a co founder of the party back.
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: In the days of Bob Brown.
• 22:16
  Speaker 3: So I just want to finish through with a broader question.
• 22:19
  Speaker 3: Given that you're a long time environmentalist and you would
• 22:22
  Speaker 3: see the greenses primarily in an environmental political party, do
• 22:27
  Speaker 3: you believe they've lost sight of that environmental mission and
• 22:30
  Speaker 3: been distracted on these other issues such as the transgender cause.
• 22:37
  Speaker 12: Look, when Bob and I were working back in the
• 22:40
  Speaker 12: early nineties setting up the party, we felt we had
• 22:45
  Speaker 12: an historic mission that was to help the planet move
• 22:49
  Speaker 12: to a position of ecological sustainability, not just on the environment.
• 22:53
  Speaker 12: There were social justice issues and democratic issues associated with that,
• 22:58
  Speaker 12: but that was historic mission. I don't believe a lot
• 23:02
  Speaker 12: of people who've moved into important decision making, but positions
• 23:07
  Speaker 12: in the party have that same vision. Their vision is
• 23:10
  Speaker 12: one where particular identities prevail and the rights of those
• 23:16
  Speaker 12: particular identities are far more important than any other issue
• 23:19
  Speaker 12: that the party addresses.
• 23:21
  Speaker 3: True Hutton, I admire your courage in taking your stand
• 23:24
  Speaker 3: and speaking out.
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: Thanks so much for joining us.
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: True Hutton, they're co founder of the Greens, now banned
• 23:31
  Speaker 3: from the party because he believes that people can have
• 23:34
  Speaker 3: divergent views on these issues, such as protecting the rights
• 23:38
  Speaker 3: of biological girls and women. Extraordinary, isn't it. Will follow
• 23:41
  Speaker 3: up more on this story if we get the opportunity.
• 23:43
  Speaker 3: You've got to take a break.
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: Now.
• 23:44
  Speaker 3: On the other side of that, Donald Trump is slashing
• 23:47
  Speaker 3: funding for America's public broadcasters, so why can't we I'll
• 23:51
  Speaker 3: talk to Tim Blair about that, plus Ossie struggling to
• 23:55
  Speaker 3: identify the new opposition leader and the PM. Let's catch
• 24:03
  Speaker 3: up with Tim Blair from the Daily Telegraph joining us
• 24:05
  Speaker 3: from the Wimmera in Victoria. Mate, I loved your latest
• 24:08
  Speaker 3: column talking about how Donald Trump's administration has cut you know,
• 24:12
  Speaker 3: one and a half billion dollars from public broadcasting services.
• 24:17
  Speaker 3: Their version of sort of the ABC, and you asked
• 24:20
  Speaker 3: the very pertinent question, why can't we do the same.
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: Well, in Australia, it's just taken for granted that as
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: much as you know, conservatives will complain about the ABC,
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: and with good reason, that there's just nothing ever to
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: be done about it. It's just a permanent thing. Like
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: you know, if you if you were wearing calipers as
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: a young polio victim, well it's calibers for life for you.
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: So that's that's situation with the ABC. One funny thing,
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: it's always very entertaining whenever you write about issues about
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: the ABC. Whenever you have a go at the ABC,
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: A whole bunch of commentators appear in the in the
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: thread below the article saying that the ABC is the
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: most trusted media. How dare you use the ABC of
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: being bad? The ABC is beloved. Well, I always think
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: with these people, what are you doing here subscribing to.
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: The Telegraph exactly? Look, I think the thing that Donald Trump.
• 25:12
  Speaker 3: It's easier for Trump, I imagine, because he doesn't have
• 25:14
  Speaker 3: all these farmers in the Midwest who are watching PBS.
• 25:17
  Speaker 3: And the trouble is the ABC is a useful organization
• 25:22
  Speaker 3: for a lot of country and regional people, and therefore
• 25:25
  Speaker 3: the Coalition always finds it difficult to make that decision.
• 25:29
  Speaker 3: But I mean, it should just be a subscription service,
• 25:31
  Speaker 3: shouldn't that If people like it just sign up, why
• 25:34
  Speaker 3: should taxpayers star more than a billion dollars a year.
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: Absolutely, but I'd actually also dispute the continued usefulness of
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: the ABC in twenty twenty five, even in regional and
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: rural areas where I live, and very little engagement out
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: here with the ABC, it's actually far more likely. Well,
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: it's the reality out here is that Sky has become
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: the default sort of news service for a lot of
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: people who sort of very sort of people used to
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: watch the ABC, listened to the ABC. Now their default
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: default station is Guy.
• 26:05
  Speaker 3: I absolutely agree Sky News regional going gangbusters and extended
• 26:09
  Speaker 3: extending further, which is great, But I was thinking more radio.
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: It's those local radio networks.
• 26:14
  Speaker 3: That are pretty good for farmers. They get their local
• 26:16
  Speaker 3: market prices and the like. But even increasingly that goes
• 26:19
  Speaker 3: online anyway. But it's hard to make a case for
• 26:22
  Speaker 3: the abricatabor, that's for sure. I wanted to highlight a
• 26:24
  Speaker 3: little video that one of your colleagues of the Daily
• 26:26
  Speaker 3: Telegraph put together was a it.
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: Was a recognition test for Susan Lee.
• 26:30
  Speaker 3: Well, she's hardly been leader for long, so it's not
• 26:33
  Speaker 3: very surprising that some people don't know who she is.
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: But anyway, I have a look at some of this.
• 26:38
  Speaker 7: So this lady here a and newsreader, be a mining
• 26:42
  Speaker 7: magnet or see a politician?
• 26:43
  Speaker 9: A politician, yeah, American mining magnet.
• 26:48
  Speaker 11: I'll say mining.
• 26:49
  Speaker 9: I'm gonna say newsreader.
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: Do you know who she is?
• 26:52
  Speaker 9: Not a clue?
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: NRL coach think thanking? So he's actually a politician.
• 26:57
  Speaker 14: He's our current prime minister.
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 27:01
  Speaker 3: I just love the fact that some people didn't even
• 27:03
  Speaker 3: know who Elbow was was.
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: Kind of a moot point.
• 27:06
  Speaker 3: But if I had a choice him of being a politician,
• 27:09
  Speaker 3: a newsreader or a mining magnate, I know which one
• 27:12
  Speaker 3: I'm choosing, and I'm going for the iron Ore and
• 27:15
  Speaker 3: Cole Absolutely.
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: I think like a lot of people are going to
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: be making fun of these young people for not being
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: aware of the identity of politicians. But it's kind of
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: a healthy sign. Don't you think that we're not aware
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: of the identity of someone who, as you said, has
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: only been the opposition leader for a very short period
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: of time. You'd only know it from being a backbench
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: or from having a sub prime minister or portfolio in
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: previous governments. I think it was a sign of great
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: ill health for Australia that we knew during the pandemic,
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: the COVID pandemic, we knew the identities of minor health.
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: Bureaucrats exactly wrong, exactly.
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: We've got to have better priorities of that. And I
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: think it's a good sign that we don't know who
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: Susan Lee or to a degree elbow is.
• 27:57
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 27:57
  Speaker 3: I also think it's a great thing if there's people
• 27:59
  Speaker 3: in the aren't you were just getting on with their
• 28:01
  Speaker 3: lives and don't even care about politics. But I just
• 28:03
  Speaker 3: think it's atrocious that our system forces them to vote.
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: That's absolutely the best point there should be. That recognition
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: test test should be conducted in the line outside pollingburg
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: Exactly you get turned away or you voluntarily just get
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: to get signed off just quickly.
• 28:19
  Speaker 3: You'll be shattered to know that Australia has performed very
• 28:22
  Speaker 3: poorly when it comes to the ranking of cities worldwide
• 28:25
  Speaker 3: for ev availability, the easy access to charges in the line.
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: Well, I'll just say this about that study. It doesn't
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: matter how friendly you make a city to evs, the
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: charging time remains the same, and in fact it stretches
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: into infinity if the charges are broken, as they so
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: often are. So make your cities as V friendly as
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: you want, You're still going to be sat there for
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: a lot longer than I am dumping Peprile into a
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: V eight, that's for sure.
• 28:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm going to get a fake EV badge on
• 28:53
  Speaker 3: my diesel because it's the only empty park sometimes the
• 28:56
  Speaker 3: EV one. Thanks for johinnyus. Tim will catch you later
• 28:59
  Speaker 3: on later in the week with Mark Nicholson. We've got
• 29:01
  Speaker 3: to get to a break on the other side. I'm
• 29:02
  Speaker 3: going to cross to Israel to get the latest on
• 29:04
  Speaker 3: the Middle East tensions. I want to return to the
• 29:13
  Speaker 3: Middle East and the atrocity is being committed against Druze
• 29:16
  Speaker 3: communities in Syria. Israel intervened to protect these Arab communities
• 29:21
  Speaker 3: and a cease.
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: Fire of sorts is now in place.
• 29:25
  Speaker 3: Let's go to Drew's community member, doctor Sausen Kahir, who's
• 29:28
  Speaker 3: a psychologist and lecturer at the University of Haifa. She
• 29:31
  Speaker 3: joins me live from Haifa in Israel. Thanks for joining us,
• 29:36
  Speaker 3: Doctor Kahir. First up, I just want to get your
• 29:39
  Speaker 3: perspective on what's been happening to the Druze communities in Syria.
• 29:44
  Speaker 3: There have been conflicting reports, but a lot of evidence
• 29:49
  Speaker 3: on social media of absolutely appalling massacres and atrocities.
• 29:55
  Speaker 15: Hello Chris, thank you very much for the opportunity to
• 29:58
  Speaker 15: speak to you today. Indeed, Lots is not known to
• 30:03
  Speaker 15: the world. Apparently, and unfortunately and sadly, there's a genocide
• 30:08
  Speaker 15: taking place against in Syria, against the Drews community. All
• 30:13
  Speaker 15: the campaigns trying to sort of show it to the
• 30:18
  Speaker 15: world that there are these are minor issues or you know,
• 30:22
  Speaker 15: conflicts between the Bedwins and the Drews are not correct.
• 30:26
  Speaker 15: It's a massacre. It's icll it personally, October seventh of
• 30:30
  Speaker 15: the Drews genocide is taking place. Children, infants three months old,
• 30:37
  Speaker 15: ten months old are being killed. There is footage, there
• 30:42
  Speaker 15: is video, but the world doesn't see this. For some reason,
• 30:47
  Speaker 15: many of my foreign friends never or at least said
• 30:50
  Speaker 15: only lately that only yesterday that they hear that there
• 30:53
  Speaker 15: is something taking place in Syria against the Drews.
• 31:00
  Speaker 3: Interrupt a source and I think one of the reasons
• 31:02
  Speaker 3: we don't see that stuff in the media is it's
• 31:05
  Speaker 3: too graphic to show.
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: But you are right.
• 31:08
  Speaker 3: Also, the international media turns a blind eye to the
• 31:10
  Speaker 3: issue generally.
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: Now, I know.
• 31:12
  Speaker 3: Arab Druz communities live peacefully in Israel. I've visited Drew's
• 31:16
  Speaker 3: villages in Israel, also up in the Golden Heights over
• 31:20
  Speaker 3: the last thirty years. You're an Arab community religiously separate,
• 31:26
  Speaker 3: especially from Sunni Muslims. A lot of Drews people in
• 31:30
  Speaker 3: the southern Lebanon and also in Syria. Why then, has
• 31:33
  Speaker 3: Israel gone into Syria to protect the Druz communities in Syria?
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: And what would have happened if Israel didn't do that?
• 31:45
  Speaker 15: Thank you for the question. Well, this is a very
• 31:47
  Speaker 15: good question, a very good thing to also exposed to
• 31:53
  Speaker 15: the world.
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: Israel.
• 31:55
  Speaker 15: Israel is the only country worldwide that stood up to
• 31:59
  Speaker 15: this point for the Jews, first, because I think it's
• 32:04
  Speaker 15: a humanitarian issue. It's a humanitarian crisis, and Israel is
• 32:09
  Speaker 15: known to help different countries worldwide in such a kind
• 32:14
  Speaker 15: of crisis, well not exactly such a kind, but in
• 32:17
  Speaker 15: every international crisis, Israel forces different kind of forces go
• 32:23
  Speaker 15: and help in disastrous areas. So same is taking place
• 32:27
  Speaker 15: right now in Syria. Israel sees the massacre that is
• 32:32
  Speaker 15: taking place, the genocide, and I think you should not
• 32:36
  Speaker 15: think in terms of politics right now, but be a human.
• 32:41
  Speaker 15: And this is the stance that Israel is taking right
• 32:44
  Speaker 15: now now. The Jews in Israel, we are a tiny minority,
• 32:48
  Speaker 15: of course worldwide, but in Israel we are also a minority,
• 32:53
  Speaker 15: and we're living here peacefully. We're protected by the state,
• 32:57
  Speaker 15: and the Jews serve in the Israeli Army. So I
• 33:01
  Speaker 15: think this is one thing that also motivated Israel's act
• 33:05
  Speaker 15: sort of you know, recognizing or giving a recognition to
• 33:09
  Speaker 15: the Drews contribution to the state of Israel.
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: Also, of course I've been up.
• 33:15
  Speaker 3: And to Dreuz community at Mujjoal Sound Shams for instance,
• 33:20
  Speaker 3: right up on the Syrian border and the Goalen Heights.
• 33:22
  Speaker 3: But there'll be so many Drews people there who have
• 33:25
  Speaker 3: family and relatives just across the border in Syria exposed
• 33:29
  Speaker 3: to this. So it's in many cases it's Israeli people
• 33:32
  Speaker 3: supporting Israeli their relatives across the border in Syria. Thanks
• 33:37
  Speaker 3: so much for bringing us up to date. We'll keep
• 33:40
  Speaker 3: in touch as this issue unfolds. I really appreciate your time.
• 33:43
  Speaker 3: That's doctor Susan Kahir from Haifa, the University of Haifa
• 33:47
  Speaker 3: in Israel, a member of the Druz community there. And
• 33:50
  Speaker 3: let's hope that ceasefire holds, because otherwise the atrocities will
• 33:55
  Speaker 3: start again. Now, you remember in June last year that
• 33:59
  Speaker 3: the then president Joe Biden was pretending he could run
• 34:03
  Speaker 3: again for a second term.
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: I've been saying for three years that he'd never.
• 34:07
  Speaker 3: Do that, And George Clooney in the Hollywood crowd, actually
• 34:10
  Speaker 3: held a fundraiser for Biden, and he looked so lost
• 34:14
  Speaker 3: that Barack Obama had to lead him off the stage.
• 34:17
  Speaker 3: We showed you that here at the time. It wasn't
• 34:19
  Speaker 3: long after that, after a disastrous debate performance, that Clooney
• 34:24
  Speaker 3: was one of those calling for Biden to stand aside,
• 34:27
  Speaker 3: writing in The New York Times that he loved Joe
• 34:30
  Speaker 3: but that he had to go. Now why do I
• 34:32
  Speaker 3: mention this now? Well, because Joe Biden's problematic son Hunter
• 34:37
  Speaker 3: has given a rare interview and a bizarre one, and
• 34:41
  Speaker 3: he's unloaded on Clooney.
• 34:45
  Speaker 13: Kim Kim Kim and everybody around him. I don't have
• 34:50
  Speaker 13: to be nice. Number one. I agree with Quentin Tarantino.
• 34:53
  Speaker 13: George Clooney is not an actor. He is a like
• 34:58
  Speaker 13: I don't know what he is. He's a bread and
• 35:00
  Speaker 13: by the way, and God bless him.
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: You know what.
• 35:03
  Speaker 13: He funsly, treats his friends really well, you know what
• 35:05
  Speaker 13: I mean, buys them things, and he's got a really
• 35:07
  Speaker 13: great place in Lake Como, and he's great friends with
• 35:10
  Speaker 13: Barack Obama. You what do you have to do with anything?
• 35:13
  Speaker 13: Why do I have to listen to you?
• 35:16
  Speaker 3: Let's go to Christen tight Our, US analyst. Now, Kristin,
• 35:20
  Speaker 3: who the hell let Hunter Biden out?
• 35:24
  Speaker 14: That is a great question, Chris. Oh my gosh, he
• 35:27
  Speaker 14: is such a loser. It's so cringe worthy watching this
• 35:31
  Speaker 14: knowing that Hunter Biden has been described as Joe Biden's
• 35:34
  Speaker 14: chief of staff during the last year he was in office.
• 35:38
  Speaker 14: And he's sitting there trying to chalk up Democrat losses
• 35:41
  Speaker 14: in twenty twenty four to disloyalty to its father by
• 35:44
  Speaker 14: people like George Clooney and others. This is laughable. Democrats
• 35:47
  Speaker 14: were extremely loyal but to Joe Biden for years, as
• 35:50
  Speaker 14: it was clear to anyone with a functioning brain. That
• 35:53
  Speaker 14: Biden was, you know, in steep mental decline and not
• 35:57
  Speaker 14: up for the job. We watched him fall upstairs, We
• 35:59
  Speaker 14: watched him be guided off stage by Obama, constantly slurring
• 36:03
  Speaker 14: his speech, but we were told he had never been
• 36:05
  Speaker 14: sharper and if you have any questions, you're a conspiracy theorist.
• 36:08
  Speaker 14: It was only when he was on that debate stage
• 36:10
  Speaker 14: he completely froze and the whole thing was exposed, the
• 36:15
  Speaker 14: entirety of his mental decline was exposed that the Democrats
• 36:18
  Speaker 14: turned on him. So, if anything, they lost in twenty
• 36:21
  Speaker 14: twenty four because the Democrats were too loyal to him
• 36:23
  Speaker 14: for too long. By the time they did turn on him,
• 36:26
  Speaker 14: it was too late.
• 36:27
  Speaker 3: You spot on wait till full more than three years
• 36:30
  Speaker 3: about how there is not why joy Boden was capable
• 36:33
  Speaker 3: of running again, but they stuck by him to the
• 36:36
  Speaker 3: very last when it couldn't be avoided. Let's have a
• 36:39
  Speaker 3: look at some of that crucial divide.
• 36:42
  Speaker 12: And I'm going to continue to move until we get
• 36:44
  Speaker 12: the total ban on the total initiative relative to what
• 36:49
  Speaker 12: we're going to do with more border patrol and more.
• 36:52
  Speaker 5: As Officer President Trump, I really don't know what he
• 36:55
  Speaker 5: said at the end of this.
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: I don't think he knows what he said either. It
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: was an absolute try and crash.
• 37:02
  Speaker 3: But have a look at what Hunter Biden says about that.
• 37:05
  Speaker 13: Now I know exactly what happened in that debate. He
• 37:08
  Speaker 13: flew around the world, basically the mileage that he could
• 37:11
  Speaker 13: have flown around the world three times. He's eighty one
• 37:14
  Speaker 13: years old, he's tired of give him ambient to be.
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: Able to sleep.
• 37:18
  Speaker 13: He gets up on the stage and he looks like
• 37:20
  Speaker 13: he's a deer in the headlights.
• 37:22
  Speaker 3: Kristen blaming it on the sleeping pills. This is absolute
• 37:26
  Speaker 3: errant nonsense. Bidend be back in the country for about
• 37:30
  Speaker 3: six days. He'd been resting at Delaware and at Camp
• 37:32
  Speaker 3: divid He had plenty of preparation.
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: He just stuffed up because he was not up to it.
• 37:39
  Speaker 14: Yeah, of course, I mean, even if you take what
• 37:40
  Speaker 14: Hunter just said there at face value, Joe Biden still
• 37:44
  Speaker 14: shouldn't have been president. You're telling me the president of
• 37:46
  Speaker 14: the United States was so tired he couldn't handle his
• 37:50
  Speaker 14: normal duties and he had to be taking sleeping.
• 37:53
  Speaker 9: Pills all the time.
• 37:54
  Speaker 14: I mean, he was an elderly man in steep mental decline.
• 37:58
  Speaker 14: This happens to everyone different pieces. He had been way
• 38:02
  Speaker 14: too far gone to be the leader of the free world,
• 38:05
  Speaker 14: and during that debate it was just too much for
• 38:08
  Speaker 14: the elites to try to hide it up anymore. If
• 38:11
  Speaker 14: they had, you know, somehow orchestrated a graceful exit from
• 38:15
  Speaker 14: the campaign, even just several months earlier, things could have
• 38:18
  Speaker 14: gone very differently for the Democrats in twenty twenty four.
• 38:21
  Speaker 14: We really could have had Residents Kamala Harris. But they
• 38:24
  Speaker 14: just waited too long until everyone in the media and
• 38:28
  Speaker 14: the Democrat elites, they all had egg on their faces
• 38:30
  Speaker 14: when we saw that debate performance.
• 38:32
  Speaker 3: Thank god for small mercies. Imagine President Kamala Harris now
• 38:36
  Speaker 3: dementia would not have been an excuse available to her. Meanwhile,
• 38:40
  Speaker 3: of course President Donald Trump has marked six months in
• 38:43
  Speaker 3: off of six months in his second term.
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: Of course he's second stint. He is a big poster.
• 38:47
  Speaker 3: He's put out the Herogram and have a look at
• 38:50
  Speaker 3: this little video.
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: The White House is put together.
• 38:53
  Speaker 16: This movement that President Trump has started, it's only getting bigger.
• 38:57
  Speaker 2: It has more energy, more enthusiasm. What he's going to
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: do the.
• 39:00
  Speaker 13: Shot and work hard and deliver every day for the
• 39:02
  Speaker 13: American people. If you're watching history, so buckle up because
• 39:05
  Speaker 13: the next three and a half years will probably be
• 39:07
  Speaker 13: just as busy.
• 39:09
  Speaker 3: Kristin, There's a lot to talk about in six months
• 39:12
  Speaker 3: six you know. I remember back in January when I
• 39:14
  Speaker 3: was with you in Washington and we were seeing him
• 39:16
  Speaker 3: sign off all those executive orders within minutes of being inaugurated.
• 39:20
  Speaker 3: But we've seen a lot of success on the border.
• 39:23
  Speaker 9: I would argue a lot.
• 39:24
  Speaker 3: Of success in international affairs, getting NATO to stump up
• 39:27
  Speaker 3: more money for their own defense, supporting Israel strongly, taking
• 39:31
  Speaker 3: out those nuclear facilities in Iran.
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: But the big question is in the US all these tariffs.
• 39:37
  Speaker 3: The tariffs are causing mayhem around the world, hurting countries
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  Speaker 3: like Australia. So I'm very antagonistic about his tariff policies.
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  Speaker 3: But how are they playing out in the US? Are
• 39:48
  Speaker 3: voters supporting them or they're worried about the increased prices
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  Speaker 3: they're starting to pay.
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  Speaker 14: Voters right now are cautiously optimistic. Many people understand Trump's
• 39:59
  Speaker 14: play here the some short term pain for long term gain.
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  Speaker 14: I will say, just being here in the city of
• 40:05
  Speaker 14: Boston and when I've traveled. You can really feel a
• 40:08
  Speaker 14: new sense of enthusiasm in the air here in the
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  Speaker 14: United States. People are generally more optimistic about the direction
• 40:15
  Speaker 14: of the economy than they were under Biden. Food prices
• 40:18
  Speaker 14: have started to go down, inflation going down a little bit. Obviously,
• 40:22
  Speaker 14: illegal immigration has come to a near halt at the
• 40:24
  Speaker 14: southern border. So things are going well in America right now.
• 40:28
  Speaker 14: I will say the one thing, as a Trump supporter myself,
• 40:31
  Speaker 14: that I can find to complain about is we have
• 40:34
  Speaker 14: not gotten those mass deportations we were promised. Right now,
• 40:37
  Speaker 14: the administration is reporting about fourteen thousand people a month.
• 40:41
  Speaker 14: Some ten million plus illegal immigrants came in under Biden.
• 40:45
  Speaker 14: It would take over six hundred months at the current
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  Speaker 14: deportation rates to actually deport all the illegals that came
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  Speaker 14: in under Biden. So there's definitely room for improvement. But overall,
• 40:54
  Speaker 14: there's a lot to celebrate for the Trump administration right now.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, a bit more work to do.
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  Speaker 3: There also government spending, I suppose, but his agenda is
• 41:02
  Speaker 3: growth to dwarf that I suppose.
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  Speaker 2: Great to catch up with you again, Kristen. We'll see
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  Speaker 2: how he's going in six months time. From now.
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  Speaker 14: Great, Thank you so much, Chris.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, if they're opt Michigan, Boston, that's a big Democrat town.
• 41:15
  Speaker 3: Of course, I got to take a break. Afterwards, we'll
• 41:16
  Speaker 3: catch up with Suzio Brien and Stephen Sene, Senate Empire
• 41:19
  Speaker 3: and we'll talk about the incredible amount of travel that
• 41:22
  Speaker 3: the First nation's ambassador has chalked.
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  Speaker 2: Up on apps.
• 41:31
  Speaker 3: Let's get into the issues of the day now with
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  Speaker 3: Stephen Senatiempo Radio two Double CE breakfast host joining us
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  Speaker 3: live from Canberra. Good to see you, Stephen. Look, you
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  Speaker 3: would have seen these protests in Canberra over the last
• 41:42
  Speaker 3: couple of days, the pro Palestinian anti Israel protests.
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  Speaker 2: They're retoric.
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  Speaker 3: Isn't much different from what we're getting from Penny Wong
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  Speaker 3: and Anthony ALBERNIZI now with the Australia signing up to
• 41:52
  Speaker 3: this letter that seems to blame all of the aid
• 41:55
  Speaker 3: chaos on Israel and demand a ceasefire even though Israel
• 41:59
  Speaker 3: has a its fight on the table right now.
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  Speaker 16: That's the frightening thing about this, Chris, and I made
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  Speaker 16: the comment on my program this morning that these protesters
• 42:07
  Speaker 16: are emboldened by the federal government's position on this and
• 42:10
  Speaker 16: the lack of action that there's been for well nearly
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  Speaker 16: two years now, since the seventh of October twenty twenty three,
• 42:16
  Speaker 16: when Hamas invaded a sovereign country in Israel and murdered, raped,
• 42:21
  Speaker 16: and kidnapped twelve hundred innocent Israeli civilians, some of them
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  Speaker 16: still in captivity. We don't know if they're alive or not.
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  Speaker 16: And it's always Israel that has got to lay down
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  Speaker 16: their arms. There is never a call for Hamas, a
• 42:32
  Speaker 16: terrorist organization, to lay down its arms.
• 42:35
  Speaker 9: That granted, a.
• 42:36
  Speaker 16: Terrorist organization is probably not really going to enter into
• 42:39
  Speaker 16: any proper negotiations with anyone, but to try and blame
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  Speaker 16: the sovereign nation that is defending itself for all of
• 42:45
  Speaker 16: this is absolutely extraordinary. But then you got these clowns
• 42:48
  Speaker 16: climbing on top of roofs here in Canberra. One of
• 42:50
  Speaker 16: them called into my program yesterday and wanted to interview
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  Speaker 16: me live on air, and I had to explain that's
• 42:55
  Speaker 16: not how it works. But it's the level of ignorance
• 42:57
  Speaker 16: and the misunderstanding of history that is the thing here.
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  Speaker 16: I mean, you can actually get onto Google and history
• 43:03
  Speaker 16: in research the history of Israel.
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  Speaker 9: These clowns never do that.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Look, the other thing is what's going on now and
• 43:10
  Speaker 3: the amount of misinformation in the media. There are people
• 43:13
  Speaker 3: here in Australia, well intended, people who think Israel is
• 43:16
  Speaker 3: deliberately killing civilians, who think Israel is shooting people as
• 43:20
  Speaker 3: they line up for AID. As if you'd go to
• 43:22
  Speaker 3: all the trouble of lining up to feed hundreds of
• 43:24
  Speaker 3: thousands of people a just so you can shoot a
• 43:26
  Speaker 3: few hundred of them. It's just insane. Yet this is
• 43:29
  Speaker 3: the crap the media is feeding them. And now, of
• 43:32
  Speaker 3: course you can find out the facts if you dig
• 43:34
  Speaker 3: a bit deeper. But the media's got a lot to
• 43:36
  Speaker 3: answer here for and Penny Wong's just going along with that.
• 43:39
  Speaker 2: Flower.
• 43:40
  Speaker 3: I thought she was caught out badly today because Andrew
• 43:42
  Speaker 3: Clonel asked her who's to blame for the problem with AID?
• 43:46
  Speaker 3: Is that Hummas or Israel? And she refused to say.
• 43:49
  Speaker 3: Yet the statement she signed blames Israel.
• 43:53
  Speaker 2: Clearly.
• 43:54
  Speaker 3: Now she must know that's wrong, she's signed up to it,
• 43:57
  Speaker 3: yet she wasn't prepared to say so on camera.
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  Speaker 9: But this is an ideological bent from this government.
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  Speaker 16: Chris has been pretty clear that they've been anti Israel
• 44:05
  Speaker 16: since they're elected a little over three years ago now,
• 44:08
  Speaker 16: and it's been a dramatic shift in the Labor Party
• 44:11
  Speaker 16: since the Socialist Left took over. When the Labor Party
• 44:13
  Speaker 16: was run by the Sensible Right, you would never have
• 44:15
  Speaker 16: had this kind of rhetoric.
• 44:16
  Speaker 9: But it just comes down to the simple question, who
• 44:19
  Speaker 9: do you believe.
• 44:20
  Speaker 16: Our democratically elected government, our partner, our ally in the
• 44:24
  Speaker 16: Middle East or information coming out of a terrorist organization
• 44:28
  Speaker 16: And anything that's coming out of out of Gaza is
• 44:31
  Speaker 16: coming from Hamas.
• 44:32
  Speaker 9: That's the real key here.
• 44:34
  Speaker 2: Yet the media plays their games.
• 44:35
  Speaker 3: They say this is the latest claim from the Gaza
• 44:38
  Speaker 3: Health Administration or the Gaza and the refugee organizations.
• 44:42
  Speaker 2: It's all hummaus and they should be upfront about it.
• 44:45
  Speaker 3: Let's bring it back to another appalling bit of governance
• 44:48
  Speaker 3: in Australia.
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: I called out.
• 44:50
  Speaker 3: This idea when it was first floated by Labor under
• 44:54
  Speaker 3: Penny Wong. This is the idea of a first nation's ambassador.
• 44:57
  Speaker 3: This is not a person representing indig Australians within Australia
• 45:01
  Speaker 3: like some sort of individual voice. This is a person
• 45:04
  Speaker 3: who's an ambassador who oversees countries on behalf of indigenous people,
• 45:09
  Speaker 3: an absolutely ludicrous idea.
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: But they appointed a bloke.
• 45:13
  Speaker 3: Well, he's spent so much time traveling at our expense.
• 45:17
  Speaker 3: I have a look at the billies wrapped up. I
• 45:19
  Speaker 3: have a seven hundred and fifty grand and seven hundred
• 45:21
  Speaker 3: and thirty grand. He's had eleven days in New York
• 45:24
  Speaker 3: in twenty twenty three, eleven days in Dubai back in
• 45:28
  Speaker 3: twenty twenty three, then America for another seventeen days last year,
• 45:33
  Speaker 3: Paris and Geneva for a couple of weeks last year,
• 45:36
  Speaker 3: another couple of weeks in America later last year. And
• 45:39
  Speaker 3: this is just a little bit of it. There's been
• 45:40
  Speaker 3: trips all around the country and elsewhere. This is in defensible.
• 45:45
  Speaker 3: Penny Wong says, oh, he's doing good things for Australia.
• 45:48
  Speaker 3: What Minister, what on earth good is this doing for anyone?
• 45:53
  Speaker 16: It also, it almost makes Anthony Albanezi six day taxpayer
• 45:57
  Speaker 16: holiday to China look good, doesn't it. What is this
• 46:00
  Speaker 16: bloke's job actually supposed to be When you say you're
• 46:02
  Speaker 16: a first nation's ambassador, ambassador at large to the entire world,
• 46:06
  Speaker 16: and most of our ambassadors are actually trying to negotiate
• 46:09
  Speaker 16: trade agreements or they're dealing with alliances between very ex countries.
• 46:14
  Speaker 9: What is this blog out there promoting indigenous businesses?
• 46:16
  Speaker 16: Is he trying to create some sort of free trade
• 46:19
  Speaker 16: agreement between countries and the indigenous community as opposed to
• 46:23
  Speaker 16: Australia at large. When what is it this bloke actually does?
• 46:26
  Speaker 16: And you know, eleven days in New York, I was
• 46:29
  Speaker 16: thinking about this afternoon. Maybe we should get him into
• 46:31
  Speaker 16: trying to repair the relationship with the United States, because
• 46:34
  Speaker 16: Kevin Rud's clearly not doing it.
• 46:37
  Speaker 3: It is just extraordinary, and I hope the Coalition pursue
• 46:40
  Speaker 3: this very diligently and centered estimates and the like, because
• 46:43
  Speaker 3: it's the greatest example of wasteful government spending and indulgence
• 46:47
  Speaker 3: you could ever imagine.
• 46:49
  Speaker 9: I just want to.
• 46:49
  Speaker 3: Get to your thoughts on those royals that you love
• 46:52
  Speaker 3: so much. I love this little story that's come out
• 46:55
  Speaker 3: about King Charles. Apparently eleven of his twelve guards have
• 47:01
  Speaker 3: quit High Grove.
• 47:03
  Speaker 2: They're not being treated well, I mean, have he Why
• 47:06
  Speaker 2: has he lost eleven gardeners?
• 47:08
  Speaker 3: Are they not speaking to the plants enough for his liking?
• 47:12
  Speaker 9: Well, that might be the thing.
• 47:14
  Speaker 16: So we know that his Majesty does love his plants
• 47:17
  Speaker 16: and loves to go out and have a chat with
• 47:18
  Speaker 16: them when he can't get sensible conversation out of anyone else.
• 47:22
  Speaker 16: So he probably takes the gardens at High Grove a
• 47:24
  Speaker 16: little bit more seriously than any of his predecessors. And
• 47:28
  Speaker 16: maybe he's a little bit heavy handed with the gardeners.
• 47:30
  Speaker 9: I'm not sure.
• 47:31
  Speaker 2: I'd love to find out.
• 47:32
  Speaker 3: We need to interviews with these gardeners to find out
• 47:35
  Speaker 3: what the problem is.
• 47:35
  Speaker 2: He supposed to be.
• 47:37
  Speaker 3: He's supposed to be very gracious to his subjects, isn't he.
• 47:41
  Speaker 9: Well? And look from what I've heard he normally is.
• 47:44
  Speaker 16: But again, as I say, he takes the gardening pretty seriously,
• 47:47
  Speaker 16: so he probably has a more keen eye out of
• 47:49
  Speaker 16: what the gardeners are doing than some of his other stuff.
• 47:52
  Speaker 3: Yes, they're not speaking gently enough to his beloved plants.
• 47:56
  Speaker 2: We'll see.
• 47:56
  Speaker 3: We'll catch you next week, Steve. And then don't forget
• 47:59
  Speaker 3: to listen to Stephen if you're in the Capitol. Two
• 48:01
  Speaker 3: double c Breakfast hoasted in Camber. Stephen, sendy Champaign. I
• 48:05
  Speaker 3: just want to share some of your feedback from what
• 48:07
  Speaker 3: I had to say last night about the Tasmanian and
• 48:09
  Speaker 3: electoral system and the whole country really how many politicians
• 48:13
  Speaker 3: we've got state by state? Scott says, as a Tasmanian myself,
• 48:17
  Speaker 3: I totally agree we have far too many politicians state
• 48:21
  Speaker 3: and federal.
• 48:22
  Speaker 2: Another viewer says, time to come.
• 48:24
  Speaker 3: Up with something that works for the voters and not
• 48:27
  Speaker 3: for the politicians.
• 48:28
  Speaker 2: You know, that's a good twist.
• 48:29
  Speaker 3: And someone else says labor should honor the swing against
• 48:33
  Speaker 3: it and listen.
• 48:34
  Speaker 2: To the people.
• 48:34
  Speaker 3: That's exactly what it should do when it comes to
• 48:37
  Speaker 3: that Tasmanian election result.
• 48:38
  Speaker 2: And Sean says, Chris.
• 48:39
  Speaker 3: Kenny, you didn't even lift the lid on local government,
• 48:43
  Speaker 3: tin polish everywhere. Spot on if we added a local
• 48:46
  Speaker 3: government to the lot man, are we over governed?
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  Speaker 2: Thanks for joining me, I'll see tomorrow night. Here's Peter Credlin.