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Did 'surprised' husband kill wife, mistress & teen, then flee? · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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Speaker 1: The case of a Utah man on the run as
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Speaker 1: a person of interest in a triple murderer just gets
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Speaker 1: a little stranger. Sixty year old Mike Bollinger has wanted
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Speaker 1: for the murders of three female batons. This is Crime
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Speaker 1: Stories with Nancy Grace. They say the sixty year old
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Speaker 1: is married, but he also has a girlfriend. Friends and
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Speaker 1: family believed the three women shot in that shed where
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Speaker 1: Bolinger's girlfriend, her daughter, and Bollinger's wife and one month
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Speaker 1: ago were told. Bollinger helped Naja and Peyton move out
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Speaker 1: of this Weber County home. He called Peyton his daughter,
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Speaker 1: Payton called in Dad. But while Naja and Peyton were
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Speaker 1: settling in and Caldwell, Bollinger were told, unbeknownst to his fiancee,
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Speaker 1: was inside he's Ogden home preparing to help someone else
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Speaker 1: with Ryl Baker, his wife the cool thing. It's the
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Speaker 1: Sound Break company investigating discovery. All three ended up shot
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Speaker 1: to death. Left Cannichet. You know when I get aboard
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Speaker 1: of lane and I see the pilot, of course I
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Speaker 1: always go up and trying to sniff his breath. Secretly
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Speaker 1: I think they know, though, But every time I get
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Speaker 1: on a plane I see that pilot and they look
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Speaker 1: so confident in reassuring be it man or woman, and
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Speaker 1: they've got on their pilot's uniform and they're standing there
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Speaker 1: ready to fly the plane. I think, Okay, I'm in
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Speaker 1: good hands, and I take my twins and go sit
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Speaker 1: down and trust the pilot. There's something about the pilot,
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Speaker 1: the captain. You trust him right well, right now there's
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Speaker 1: a man hunt. There is a man hunt for a
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Speaker 1: pilot accused of brutally, brutally killing his wife, his mistress,
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Speaker 1: and his four her fourteen year old little girl at
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Speaker 1: their Idaho farmhouse. Wow, this is a story as old
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Speaker 1: as time. I love Triangle. I Nancy Grace, this is
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Speaker 1: crime stories. Thank you for being with us. I'm talking
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Speaker 1: about Gerald Michael Bullinger, a person of interest in not one,
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Speaker 1: not too but three murders, brutal murders. Police found three
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Speaker 1: bodies dragged to a shed in rural Caldwell, Idaho. Now,
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Speaker 1: looking at records, we learn this property was purchased by
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Speaker 1: Bullenger about a month earlier. May three. There have been
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Speaker 1: multiple media posts from Naja Medley, who friends said had
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Speaker 1: been dating Bullenger for two years, and her post reveal
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Speaker 1: she was thrilled that she was moving to Caldwell, Idaho
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Speaker 1: around the same time. Now, friends of the fourteen year
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Speaker 1: old little girl Peyton say, and this is the part
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Speaker 1: that really brakes my heart that you know, the parents,
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Speaker 1: they can stew in their own pot, but a little
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Speaker 1: girl didn't have to be dragged into this. Reports of
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Speaker 1: friends say the little girl Peyton actually called Bullenger dad
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Speaker 1: after he and her mother got engaged. What one little
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Speaker 1: problem there. His wife, Cheryl Baker, was moving to Idaho
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Speaker 1: this month after leaving her teaching job. The brother Byron
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Speaker 1: said the family got worried when they did not hear
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Speaker 1: from her. The last reported siding of Bullenger was near Ogden, Utah.
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Speaker 1: And then everything began to unfold. With me special guests
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Speaker 1: this morning, Lee Ecan from crime online dot Com of course,
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Speaker 1: Alan the Duke Duke joining me from l A, our
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Speaker 1: producer Jackie and special guest, a dear friend close to
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Speaker 1: the Let me just say, the vortex of this love
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Speaker 1: triangle turned to triple homicide. We'll call her Corin. Corin,
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Speaker 1: thank you for being with us. I just want to
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Speaker 1: hear how you found out your friend who was Ms Medley.
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Speaker 1: I had to just call her a mistress, I really do.
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Speaker 1: Although that's what she was, she was his mistress, but
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Speaker 1: I don't. I don't believe she knew he was married.
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Speaker 1: I don't. I just don't believe she would have let
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Speaker 1: her daughter get that close to him. Call him dad
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Speaker 1: posted on Facebook, including this beautiful video of a Bucolic
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Speaker 1: farm setting where her new home was going to be.
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Speaker 1: I don't know. I just I just don't see it.
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Speaker 1: How did this whole thing unfold? Corin Um, I think
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Speaker 1: everybody's still trying to figure that out. Um. I first
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Speaker 1: I first found out about it. Um day it happen
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Speaker 1: well other day, UM, I guess they were found and
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Speaker 1: it kind of they went around Facebook really quick. We
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Speaker 1: have a lot of mutual friends as well, and they
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Speaker 1: started posting. I was like, you know, they were posting
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Speaker 1: basically about one of our friends, and I couldn't figure
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Speaker 1: out who because I hadn't hurt anything. And then then um,
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Speaker 1: I found out it was Naga, So um, you know,
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Speaker 1: it was like that I had to look into it
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Speaker 1: and see what in the world happened because she wasn't
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Speaker 1: on every day because she was in the process of moving,
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Speaker 1: and you know, she hadn't actually got all of our
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Speaker 1: animals there yet, and so you know it was it
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Speaker 1: just come into the shock day was about it? What
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Speaker 1: kind of person was she? And I'm talking about and
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Speaker 1: all to use the term again because that's how everyone
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Speaker 1: identifies her. I'm talking about Naga Dly and that was
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Speaker 1: the mistress of this pilot, who, by the way, is
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Speaker 1: still on the run. And with the pilot's license, I mean, Alan,
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Speaker 1: he could be anywhere, right, Yes, do we know if
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Speaker 1: he owned an airplane that was that was nearly at
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Speaker 1: a nearby airport? What do you know, Corn, do you
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Speaker 1: know that? Um? I think he was. If I'm not mistaken,
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Speaker 1: he was. He was a tired from actually being a
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Speaker 1: pilot that he was, and started a new job like freelancing. Basically, well,
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Speaker 1: it could even be are there any planes missing from
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Speaker 1: airports in the area. He doesn't necessarily have to own
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Speaker 1: one where he could charter one. And here's the other thing, Alan,
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Speaker 1: remember this, he had I believe several days advance lead time,
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Speaker 1: so he could have gone. You know, even amateur pilots,
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Speaker 1: you know, if they can show their pilots license, they
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Speaker 1: can go up to any private air air port. I
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Speaker 1: mean they're all over They could just be our a
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Speaker 1: little dirt runway for Pete's sake and check out apply
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Speaker 1: and say, hey, I'm taking my family fishing in the Bahamas.
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna check this thing out for so and so
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Speaker 1: for you know, three days. And for three days nobody
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Speaker 1: would think anything was amiss. He could say two weeks
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Speaker 1: and they still wouldn't think it was amiss. He could
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Speaker 1: have driven eight hours away, uses pilot's license, taken off
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Speaker 1: and nobody knows right now, even right now, that anything
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Speaker 1: is amiss with that plane being gone, unless they've been
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Speaker 1: listening to this podcast or watching the crime news. So
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Speaker 1: he had a big lead, and then once he's in
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Speaker 1: the air, if he follows, of course, you know they
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Speaker 1: know if you're following. You know your flight pad, your
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Speaker 1: flight plan, you're supposed to follow. But let's just say
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Speaker 1: he followed that flight pant plan and then landed and
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Speaker 1: then took off again. Let's just say he lands in
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Speaker 1: the Bahamas and then waits ten hours, takes off again.
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Speaker 1: He could be anywhere. Now. The truth is, Alan, I've
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Speaker 1: dealt with so many bad guys on the run. The
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Speaker 1: first thing I say is go to his mama's house,
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Speaker 1: looking under the bed. That's where he'll be, all right.
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Speaker 1: So I mean it could be just that simple, or
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Speaker 1: maybe not. Maybe not, well, he could he could have
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Speaker 1: pulled like a Tad Cummins, if you will, the teacher
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Speaker 1: who ran away and went to northern California thinking he
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Speaker 1: could disappear there the great northwest part of the US.
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Speaker 1: With the area he's already in the area of He
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Speaker 1: could have gotten in a small cessin landed on a
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Speaker 1: small private landing strip someplace, or even in a field
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Speaker 1: that they won't find that for a long time, and
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Speaker 1: he could be camping someplace sort of off the grid. Frankly,
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Speaker 1: I think that would be what I would be doing.
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Speaker 1: Not that I would kill anybody. Don't say to my challenge,
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Speaker 1: because I will use it against you, and you know
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Speaker 1: I will. Um. Guys were talking about as it unfolds,
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Speaker 1: an incredible story and a heartbreaking story. Now when I
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Speaker 1: say the word story, it doesn't really do it justice.
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Speaker 1: This is not a story. This is real. These are
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Speaker 1: real people. A real wife, loving, trusting her husband Corn.
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Speaker 1: It's my understanding that he had told his wife he
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Speaker 1: was getting this new home. They were gonna retire, They're
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Speaker 1: gonna move to this home. He was getting ready for her,
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Speaker 1: and he was living in like a mobile home on
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Speaker 1: the property. Uh uh, he and his mistress, his lover
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Speaker 1: and her daughter. We're living in the house, happily playing
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Speaker 1: house in there. She had no idea, and then she
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Speaker 1: got a wild hair one day and decided, Hey, I'm
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Speaker 1: gonna surprise him. Whoa and she you got a surprise,
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Speaker 1: all right, looking down the wrong end of a double lot.
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Speaker 1: So how did how do you believe he managed to
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Speaker 1: keep his wife secret from his mistress. That's another thing
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Speaker 1: that has everybody pretty much because they were all from
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Speaker 1: the same town. Well, yeah, I've been yeah, yeah. Do
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Speaker 1: you believe that she did not know he was married?
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Speaker 1: Well I don't. I'm not saying anything that said she
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Speaker 1: would have, you know, no, no, um, But you always
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Speaker 1: have to think of about head. You know, sometimes there's
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Speaker 1: always you know, alternate relationships going on. So maybe she knew,
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Speaker 1: or maybe she thought they were in the middle of
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Speaker 1: a divorce. Maybe she you know, men no offense, Alan,
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Speaker 1: They'll tell you anything for Pete's sake. Anything. But here's
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Speaker 1: the thing, Lee, I'm surprised to now that I'm realizing.
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Speaker 1: I guess I knew it, but I hadn't thought it
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Speaker 1: through what Corn is saying. They lived in the same
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Speaker 1: small town. I come from a small town. It's hard
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Speaker 1: to keep a secret. What do you know? Like, um
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Speaker 1: from why I know of this guy. I spoke to
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Speaker 1: his his first wife. Now, they haven't been together since
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Speaker 1: nineteen I believe, but she said even back then he
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Speaker 1: had a problem telling the truth. She said that he's
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Speaker 1: you know, it was an easy going guy, fun at
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Speaker 1: times when you made it hard for people to believe
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Speaker 1: how deceiving he really is. And he cheated on her. Um,
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Speaker 1: he married someone else before his current wife, and she
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Speaker 1: thinks that he cheated on that wife as well. So
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Speaker 1: he's got a problem with infidelity. He's got a problem
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Speaker 1: of telling the truth. So, in my opinion, I don't
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Speaker 1: think even in the small town, I don't think those
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Speaker 1: two knew of each other. But that's just an opinion.
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Speaker 1: There's there's hold on. You're gonna make me crack open
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Speaker 1: my yetti here, I'm gonna have to have another that's
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Speaker 1: just too much for me. Let Let's let's go to
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Speaker 1: the expert, Alan Deep, you're the expert on this, Alan,
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Speaker 1: what's wrong with men? You know what's wrong with men?
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Speaker 1: It is just go in and confess that I'm married
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Speaker 1: one man. You're married. Hello, let me remind you that
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Speaker 1: little ceremony you had out on the beach. Okay, remember that,
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Speaker 1: I'm after a few tries evolved Alan, you're married, and
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Speaker 1: I tell people that I actually wear my ring. I
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Speaker 1: just made you evolved my foot. Um. Okay, let me
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Speaker 1: understand this. Tell me that one more timely at the
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Speaker 1: risk of redundancy. What now, the first we think the
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Speaker 1: first wife said what she said that he's pretty much
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Speaker 1: lies and he cheeks, and if he did have a
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Speaker 1: girlfriend on the side that his current wife didn't know about,
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Speaker 1: that it would not surprise her whatsoever. And there's a
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Speaker 1: lot of reports coming out that friends are saying, oh,
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Speaker 1: I can't believe this doesn't sound like him, and the
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Speaker 1: first wife is saying, well, that's kind of the general
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Speaker 1: opinion of a lot of people that knew him because
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Speaker 1: he was very fun loving, outgoing, you know, a good
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Speaker 1: guy to be around. They didn't see that side of him. Tang. Okay,
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Speaker 1: let me understand this. Okay, when you have one marriage
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Speaker 1: and it goes bad, you know, it could be nobody's fault.
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Speaker 1: And then the second marriage Okay, maybe that first one
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Speaker 1: was just a starter marriage. Okay, let's just ignore the
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Speaker 1: first one, free pass. But then when you're getting on
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Speaker 1: your third marriage, maybe I'm wrong. I'm certainly no shrink. Okay,
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Speaker 1: I've never been accused of being good at relationships. But
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Speaker 1: when you're getting into your third and your fourth and
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Speaker 1: everyone you've cheated in, it's starting to sound like it
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Speaker 1: might be you. Okay, you might be the problem. Okay,
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Speaker 1: you know what. Another thing, another clue in this case
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Speaker 1: is the bodies. God rest their souls. I'm still hung
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Speaker 1: up on a little fourteen year old girl. I meanly,
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Speaker 1: you have a little girl, Alan, I still think of
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Speaker 1: your daughter as a little girl. Cute. Jackie has a
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Speaker 1: little boy, Corn. I don't know if you have children
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Speaker 1: or not. But this little girl did not be did
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Speaker 1: not ask to be dragged into this hill whole. The
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Speaker 1: clue is their bodies were already badly decomposed when they
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Speaker 1: were found. Now that tells me he had been on
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Speaker 1: the run at least two days when they found the bodies,
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Speaker 1: at least, so he could be anywhere. Lee. What do
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Speaker 1: we know about the Let's start with what we know,
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Speaker 1: the facts, the nuts and bolts of the case. What
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Speaker 1: do we know about when it happened, how it happened.
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Speaker 1: I think it was unplanned. I don't think he planned
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Speaker 1: like for days for this to happen. That does not
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Speaker 1: mean it's not murder. But what do we know? Give
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Speaker 1: me the nuts and bolts. What we know is each
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Speaker 1: victim had a single gunshot to the head. All three
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Speaker 1: were laid inside a shed inside whoa whoa each victim.
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Speaker 1: You know, this is what I used to love about prosecuting,
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Speaker 1: taking each fact and breaking it down to figure out
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Speaker 1: how many points I could prove off. One fact, for instance,
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Speaker 1: was an earring torn out of the victim's ear Was
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Speaker 1: it torn or did it fall? Where did it? Where
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Speaker 1: did it land? Was it close to the scene of
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Speaker 1: the murder? Was it close to the body? Did she
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Speaker 1: still have on the other ear ring? You can learn
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Speaker 1: so much from one fact, for instance, in that scenario,
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Speaker 1: was it a primary, secondary, or tertiary crime scene? It
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Speaker 1: shows possibly a struggle. I mean, you can learn so
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Speaker 1: much from each individual fact. So each victim was shot
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Speaker 1: one time in the head. I'm curious if it was
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Speaker 1: in the front or the back or the side. But
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Speaker 1: that says to me he may have subdued them in
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Speaker 1: order to shoot them uniformly. How did he do that?
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Speaker 1: I wonder if they were bound. I wonder if it
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Speaker 1: was there had to be some kind of a confrontationally
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Speaker 1: when the wife shows up out of the blue to
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Speaker 1: their quote retirement home, and then everything goes sideways. So
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Speaker 1: each victim, including the little girl, was shot one time
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Speaker 1: in the head. Interesting, Okay, what more do we know?
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Speaker 1: And then yeah, like you said, before, the bodies were
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Speaker 1: badly decomposed. It was at least at least a few
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Speaker 1: days before somebody decide that's being conservative, frankly, go ahead.
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Speaker 1: And then, uh, I'm not sure who it was. Somebody
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Speaker 1: said it was a brother, another person said it was
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Speaker 1: a friend. But somebody got concerned when they didn't hear
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Speaker 1: from Sheryl, the wife, and they called in. And that's
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Speaker 1: when the five hour drive. Is that right, Corn? It's
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Speaker 1: like a five hour drive from where they lived to
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Speaker 1: the new home. Yes, that's that's um, that's from what
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Speaker 1: I'm getting. So about a five hour drive you stating now,
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Speaker 1: see it, I would normally have thought, Lee that the
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Speaker 1: wife would have I'm just going to use terms wife, mistress,
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Speaker 1: little girl. So nobody gets confused with the names. All right,
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Speaker 1: You would have thought the wife would have called him
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Speaker 1: on the way, so he would have been prepared. But
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Speaker 1: remember she was going to surprise him, so she didn't
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Speaker 1: call him. She didn't call him. He didn't know, although
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Speaker 1: you know, after five hours, I probably would have wondered.
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Speaker 1: I don't know if everybody's like this, but I would wonder.
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Speaker 1: I would never let my children go five hours without
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Speaker 1: knowing where they are. So I'm surprised if he didn't
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Speaker 1: try to call her anyway. Okay, so she arrives as
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Speaker 1: a surprise. Go ahead, she arrives as a surprise. And
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Speaker 1: this is why I don't think they knew of each other,
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Speaker 1: because obviously we know what happened after that, um, and
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Speaker 1: we don't know too much about anything else. We just
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Speaker 1: know that they were found there in a shed, in
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Speaker 1: a shed on a Monday, on a Monday, which means
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Speaker 1: I wonder if they had been a part the whole weekend.
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Speaker 1: Think about it, he'd probably been there the whole weekend.
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Speaker 1: And Okay, of course he's a suspect, and he's charged
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Speaker 1: with failing to report the death. That's his current charge.
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Speaker 1: They were found covered by plastic, so he tried to
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Speaker 1: cover them up. If I had a shrink with me
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Speaker 1: right now, I've always been a kind of intrigued by this.
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Speaker 1: Guys have been so many murders I've prosecuted and covered
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Speaker 1: that when you kill someone, you know, you cover their face.
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Speaker 1: I wanna understand it. It must be something instinctual, like
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Speaker 1: a dog circling three times before he sits down. Because
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Speaker 1: now this is anecdotal, Alan, Okay, I don't have a
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Speaker 1: statistic in front of me, but I have covered so
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Speaker 1: many cases. It's just what case was this where the
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Speaker 1: daughter killed the mom just recently and tried to claim
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Speaker 1: it was a burglary and had taken the a waste
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Speaker 1: basket of trash can out of the bathroom, Like when
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Speaker 1: of those little baskets, like a kind of a decorative
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Speaker 1: trash can and put it over the mom's head? Sounds
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Speaker 1: like a question for Cheryl McCullum. Good Lord in Heaven, Cheryl,
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Speaker 1: I'm sorry, what in the hey, I'm so excited about
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Speaker 1: hearing these facts and you're sitting there so sweetly. I've
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Speaker 1: lost my darned mind, Cheryl, I'm sorry with me, is
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Speaker 1: the director of the Cold Case Institute Cheryl McCullum, Cheryl
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Speaker 1: oh Man, I bet you've got a lot to say.
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Speaker 1: I just got so curried away unraveling this in fact
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Speaker 1: in my head once I thought, yeah, I wish Cheryl
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Speaker 1: was Okay, I don't know what that means. Nothing good,
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Speaker 1: nothing good. I'm captivating, Lord, have mercy. Okay, I'm sorry,
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Speaker 1: jump in. The one reason they covered the face is
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Speaker 1: because they don't want the person they care about looking
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Speaker 1: at them because they've done something so terribly wrong. So
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Speaker 1: it's a guilt mechanism, so they cover the face. That
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Speaker 1: takes care of that. One thing that I am extraordinarily
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Speaker 1: interested in is he has survival training, Nancy. Now, the
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Speaker 1: good news for law enforcement is he's two forty pounds
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Speaker 1: and he's sixty years old, so that training is only
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Speaker 1: gonna get him so far. He's gonna get hungry, he's
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Speaker 1: gonna get exhausted, he may even be injured. There's a
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Speaker 1: great possibility he's already taken his old life. Uh m hmmm,
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Speaker 1: mm hmmm. A man with all these women living the
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Speaker 1: good life, eating all that good food, kick him back,
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Speaker 1: having all these women loving on him. Man, he's not
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Speaker 1: gonna kill himself. Mm hmmm. No. My bent would be
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Speaker 1: he'd try to start over in another town and get
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Speaker 1: a new woman. That would be my guests. Wait, wait, wait, Cheryl,
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Speaker 1: I gotta apologize again. Guys, Cheryl is like the consummate sleuth,
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Speaker 1: hence the title director of the Cold Case Institute. Cheryl Um,
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Speaker 1: this guy is very charming. He's like everybody's buddy. I mean,
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Speaker 1: think back, think back, do you do you remember Sam
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Speaker 1: lin In at the courthouse that I promised he was
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Speaker 1: everybody's good friend. He was, he is, He's still alive,
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Speaker 1: prosecuted a case, not afraid to take a case to trial.
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Speaker 1: Everybody loved him. Everybody wanted to go out and have
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Speaker 1: a drink. Not me, of course, since I don't drink.
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Speaker 1: According to me, Um, everybody wanted to go out and
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Speaker 1: have a drink with him at manuals after work. Everybody
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Speaker 1: wanted to hang out with him. Everybody wanted to be
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Speaker 1: his buddy. Just a laid back dude, right, fun guy. Charming,
22:03
Speaker 1: That's just who came to mind first. And Um, this
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Speaker 1: is a guy like that, like Corn said, charming, like Lee,
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Speaker 1: repeat again, what did the first wife say about him?
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Speaker 1: And we're talking about a pilot Gerald Michael Mike Bullinger,
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Speaker 1: sixty year old pilot now under suspicion after the decomposed
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Speaker 1: bodies of his wife, mistress, and her little girl were found.
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Speaker 1: About the part the first one that we know, we
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Speaker 1: think it's the first wife said about him being so charming, Yep, charming,
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Speaker 1: fun loving everything you said, laid back, friends, loved them.
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Speaker 1: They had a hard time believing that he was so deceitful,
22:46
Speaker 1: according to her, and which she hasn't spoke to him
22:48
Speaker 1: in a while, but she said his you know, his
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Speaker 1: new friends. Now she could understand them feeling the same
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Speaker 1: way and that, but you know, she knew him more personally,
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Speaker 1: and she is that he cheated on her and lied
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Speaker 1: to her all the time. So there's kind of two
23:03
Speaker 1: different personalities going on here. I mean, you know, one
23:05
Speaker 1: of my favorite saying, Cheryl mccollumnus, when you don't know
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Speaker 1: a horse, look at his track record he's gonna do.
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Speaker 1: If you don't know what somebody's going to do, look
23:13
Speaker 1: at what they have done, look at what they right.
23:16
Speaker 1: But Nancy, this is what's imperative about this case. This
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Speaker 1: was not on his terms. He cheated on his terms.
23:24
Speaker 1: He bought the house to move the mistress in on
23:26
Speaker 1: his terms. When that wife showed up, all hell came
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Speaker 1: to the surface. He never in his life thought he
23:36
Speaker 1: was gonna murder a fourteen year old girl. He's now
23:39
Speaker 1: done that. He's now killed two women that on some
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Speaker 1: level he cared about. This happened quickly, and he fled
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Speaker 1: in a ford focus with no pre planning. That was
23:51
Speaker 1: not his plan. His plan went lay south very quickly.
23:56
Speaker 1: You know what, I just love it when you talk
23:58
Speaker 1: like that. I just do. I mean, Cheryl, you're right,
24:02
Speaker 1: You're right about every single thing you said. Um forward, focus,
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Speaker 1: no plan. You know, a cheater has to have in
24:11
Speaker 1: the back of their mind what's going to happen when
24:15
Speaker 1: so and so shows up? Will so and so show up?
24:18
Speaker 1: What will I say? What will I do? How I
24:19
Speaker 1: get out of it? He had to have that in
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Speaker 1: the back of his mind. Right now, I'm looking at
24:24
Speaker 1: the picture of this little girl, Peyton, just beautiful and
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Speaker 1: one of those people that naturally have a peaches and
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Speaker 1: cream complexion. Just beautiful little girl. Here they are at
24:38
Speaker 1: some event. Did he have lee? Did he have children
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Speaker 1: with his wife his first wife? They have, as far
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Speaker 1: as I know, two sons. There may be three sons,
24:48
Speaker 1: but there's definitely more than one. And she said, as
24:51
Speaker 1: far as she knows, those are his only children. So
24:54
Speaker 1: he does not have children with Cheryl. Now she was
24:57
Speaker 1: a school teacher, correct, Is that right? Correct? Now? Social
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Speaker 1: media accounts belonging to Medley who is the mistress, show
25:05
Speaker 1: she was absolutely thrilled discussing moving from Utah to Idaho
25:10
Speaker 1: last month after she was asked by Mike to move
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Speaker 1: in with him. They were not hiding this at all,
25:17
Speaker 1: the mistress writes online. We're moving in all caps. That's right.
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Speaker 1: A new home has been found and Mike, Peyton Medley
25:26
Speaker 1: and I are moving in together. Boise, here we come.
25:31
Speaker 1: I mean, this was not a secret everybody. Now. I
25:35
Speaker 1: wonder if the wife wanted to surprise him because she
25:37
Speaker 1: suspected something was going on. I mean, it'd have to
25:41
Speaker 1: take a lot for me to do a five hour
25:43
Speaker 1: trip in a car to surprise somebody, you know, to
25:47
Speaker 1: send him a balloon bouquet for Pete's sake? Why do
25:49
Speaker 1: you have to drive five hours? Cheryl? What about that?
25:53
Speaker 1: I don't think there's any question, but she might have
25:55
Speaker 1: even suspected something. You know what you write online and
25:59
Speaker 1: what's really the Sometimes it's not the same thing. So
26:02
Speaker 1: maybe she said I'm going to go surprising. No, no, no,
26:05
Speaker 1: that was the girlfriend writing all that online about how excited. Okay,
26:11
Speaker 1: so I wonder if the wife somehow, I mean, don't
26:16
Speaker 1: you tag these pictures? Couldn't she just put in her
26:18
Speaker 1: husband's name and then that would come up? Yes? No,
26:21
Speaker 1: maybe people, Yes, that would blow the whistle. M m.
26:26
Speaker 1: It doesn't appear anybody's trying to hide the affair to me.
26:31
Speaker 1: But maybe her actually living there was the pinnacle. I
26:36
Speaker 1: bet he did want to move her out of town.
26:38
Speaker 1: All right, let's talk about where is he now? Where
26:42
Speaker 1: is he now? Look at the map? Where could he be?
26:46
Speaker 1: What's the closest area he could get lost in Alan, Well,
26:53
Speaker 1: it's the Great Northwest. It could be a lot of places.
26:56
Speaker 1: It could. I'm thinking Washington State. You know, what, did
27:00
Speaker 1: you Cooper, the guy who jumped out of the airplane.
27:02
Speaker 1: Maybe he did that. Maybe he parachuted into the wilderness
27:07
Speaker 1: out there and let the plane fly into the ocean,
27:10
Speaker 1: all kinds of parachuting into the middle of the well.
27:15
Speaker 1: Not no, no, no, no, no. What you do is
27:17
Speaker 1: you said it on autopilot, you jump out of the
27:19
Speaker 1: plane and you pull one of those and you let
27:22
Speaker 1: it slide. We've seen that. Let's let's run him back
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Speaker 1: in for a moment. Cheryl, what's the most likely back
27:28
Speaker 1: in the middle of the road, Cheryl, what's the most
27:30
Speaker 1: likely scenario. He's pulled that ford focus into some wooded
27:34
Speaker 1: area and covered it a little bit, and he has
27:36
Speaker 1: walked away, and he is either using his survival skills
27:40
Speaker 1: and he's at camp site clandestine and he is either
27:44
Speaker 1: going to be fanneled with a single gunshot onto his
27:46
Speaker 1: head or he's gonna be in hiding until they find him.
27:49
Speaker 1: But they will find him, okay. The wife said, it'll
27:53
Speaker 1: be a nice surprise to show up at their new
27:58
Speaker 1: home to celebrate her leaving her teaching job with her husband,
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Speaker 1: only to find him snugged up with a mistress and
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Speaker 1: be gunned down in a triple murder. Cheryl Baker found
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Speaker 1: dead in a wooden shed outside the new farmhouse she bought. Oh,
28:19
Speaker 1: that kills me even more. There she is working, giving
28:23
Speaker 1: him the money to buy this house so he can
28:26
Speaker 1: jump upstairs and have sex with that woman, the poor
28:29
Speaker 1: mistress who didn't know a darn thing, and the little
28:31
Speaker 1: girl in the same house. Ah. You know, teachers don't
28:36
Speaker 1: make anything. I know, I taught at school, Okay, while
28:39
Speaker 1: I was waiting to get in law school. I certainly
28:41
Speaker 1: did Cheryl a little known fact. They don't make anything.
28:45
Speaker 1: And she's working like a dog and giving him the
28:47
Speaker 1: money to support his love Nest. All right, we have
28:53
Speaker 1: learned Baker had driven from their hometown Ogden, Utah, to Caldwell, Idaho,
28:59
Speaker 1: to surprise eyes her husband. Bullinger told his wife he
29:04
Speaker 1: was there working on the property for her to move in,
29:07
Speaker 1: but actually living a second life with his mistress and
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Speaker 1: her daughter. Their bodies found alongside each other in that shed.
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Speaker 1: Friends of the school teachers say she spoke glowingly about
29:23
Speaker 1: moving to Idaho and giving up teaching and going to
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Speaker 1: the countryside. Her plan was to turn the shed into
29:31
Speaker 1: her own art studio. You know what, this man needs
29:36
Speaker 1: death penalty. There's no two ways about it. Yes, what,
29:41
Speaker 1: I think you'll get the death penalty because what you
29:43
Speaker 1: were saying before, I know you remember the All Day murders.
29:47
Speaker 1: He shot them one by one by one, So whoever
29:52
Speaker 1: was in the middle was shot second knew it was coming.
29:57
Speaker 1: Whoever was on the outside was shot last. At me
30:00
Speaker 1: is a mama had to possibly watched her daughter being killed.
30:05
Speaker 1: That means a daughter possibly watched her mother being killed.
30:09
Speaker 1: That's a needle in his arm all day long. Man,
30:13
Speaker 1: you read me like a book, Cheryl. That's exactly what
30:15
Speaker 1: I was thinking about when I was asking those questions.
30:20
Speaker 1: The the methodical shooting of each victim, I said, dragged
30:30
Speaker 1: to the shed. I don't know they were dragged. I
30:32
Speaker 1: don't know if he didn't make him walk out there
30:35
Speaker 1: and lay down and shoot him in the head. I
30:37
Speaker 1: don't know what he did, but I know this, you
30:41
Speaker 1: execute a fourteen year old little girl. In my book,
30:45
Speaker 1: you're getting the death penalty. Mm hmmm, mm hmm. And
30:49
Speaker 1: then the wife and the mistress. And I am so
30:52
Speaker 1: not judging the mistress if it ain't a felony, I
30:56
Speaker 1: don't care. I don't know that she knew, don't know
31:00
Speaker 1: that she knew anything was wrong. Both of these women
31:03
Speaker 1: thought they got they grabbed the gold ring, they got
31:07
Speaker 1: the lottery ticket with this dude, and now their funerals.
31:13
Speaker 1: Mm hmmm. I'm on the hunt from Mike Bullinger. I
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Speaker 1: want that guy dead or alive. Nancy Gray's Crime Stories,
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Speaker 1: signing off goodbye, friend,