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The Rita Panahi Show | 1 October · The Rita Panahi Show

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Speaker 1: On scorn Lous Australia.
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Speaker 2: This is the Reader Panalty Show.
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Speaker 3: Good evening and welcome to the Reader Panety Show. Coming
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Speaker 3: up tonight. The Victorian Liberal leader under renewed pressure can
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Speaker 3: John Persuto survived the latest self made crisis. Senator Alex
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Speaker 3: Antique will be with me to discuss the Albanese government's
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Speaker 3: latest assault against free speech.
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Speaker 4: Josh Hammer with the.
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Speaker 3: US report including some surprising whole numbers for Donald Trump.
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Speaker 3: And later in the Hour of Prayer, Leach on Pina
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Speaker 3: Dutter's call for those who displayed terrorist flags to be
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Speaker 3: deported or jailed after pro hat bull up protests in
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Speaker 3: Melbourne and Sydney. And of course we never forget Lefty's
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Speaker 3: losing it.
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Speaker 4: We could all use a.
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Speaker 5: Laugh, guess what. By the way, the fact the matter
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Speaker 5: is the rich don't day their fair share.
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Speaker 3: But first, the Victorian Liberal Party is in crisis again.
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Speaker 3: More a Deeming's defamation case against leader John Persudo is
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Speaker 3: seeing more and more MPs agitate for a leadership change.
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Speaker 3: According to the Herald's side, several Liberal MPs are set
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Speaker 3: to pressure John Persudo to resign in order to avoid
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Speaker 3: a messy leadership.
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Speaker 4: Leadership challenge.
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Speaker 3: Sam Groth, Brad Batton and James Newbury are all said
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Speaker 3: to be potential contenders. Today, John Persudo said he plans
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Speaker 3: to lead the Liberal Party into the twenty twenty six
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Speaker 3: state election. When he was asked about his position, he said,
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Speaker 3: it's safe, very good.
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Speaker 4: I speak to my colleagues regularly. I've got no concerns
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Speaker 4: in that area.
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Speaker 3: Joining me now for more on there's this News Corps
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Speaker 3: senior writer Patrick Carlyon. Patrick sounds like he's got the
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Speaker 3: full support of the board there. I mean, surely, on
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Speaker 3: a serious matt note, he cannot survive this case. Whichever
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Speaker 3: way the case falls, Surely his position is untenable.
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Speaker 6: Well, I think the problem read it with this, besides
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Speaker 6: all the other obvious problems, is that this case is
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Speaker 6: going to be drawn out into next year. It's been
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Speaker 6: going since March twenty three. This whole issue, it was
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Speaker 6: a small issue. It should have been put to bed
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Speaker 6: one way or another back in the days and weeks
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Speaker 6: after it happened. John Pursudo was understand I think for
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Speaker 6: four days last week, and you can understand the frustrations.
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Speaker 6: I mean, it's such a distraction from his real job,
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Speaker 6: and his real job should be prosecuting a government which
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Speaker 6: is really falling down in so many areas in Victoria
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Speaker 6: at the moment, it's really on the ropes. But instead
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Speaker 6: the Liberal Party is eating the Liberal Party. This has
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Speaker 6: been going on for years and years.
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Speaker 4: But they have so much to work with.
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Speaker 3: In this state, the labor government has been hopelessly inept.
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Speaker 3: We've got the biggest deficit of any state in the country.
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Speaker 4: It's biting.
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Speaker 3: People are feeling that because a lot of times people
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Speaker 3: don't really take no.
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Speaker 4: Of the state debt.
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Speaker 3: But anyone who pays land tax pays payroll tax, rents.
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Speaker 4: The rents have gone up.
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Speaker 3: Because of all the property taxes, so it really is
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Speaker 3: so they have so much material to work with, and
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Speaker 3: yet I think if there was an election today just
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Speaker 3: into Alan would romp it in Well.
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Speaker 6: It's interesting. I mean, look you drive around Melbourne. We
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Speaker 6: drive around Melbourne, there are so many potholes on the roads.
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Speaker 6: Literally it is a state in disrepair because we cannot
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Speaker 6: afford to fix the potholes. That's how bad it is.
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Speaker 6: Whether it's health debt, the.
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Speaker 3: Commonwealth games, which embarrassingly couldn't afford, so now we're paying
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Speaker 3: for Scotland to hold.
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Speaker 2: Them that's right.
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Speaker 6: There are so many riches to smash out of the park,
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Speaker 6: and instead John Pishido is talking about being in court
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Speaker 6: and whether his colleagues have confidence in him.
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Speaker 2: I can understand their frustration.
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Speaker 3: And he's in court in large part because he believes
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Speaker 3: a view held by Mora Deeming, which I would say
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Speaker 3: is held by the overwhelming majority of Victorians, is somehow
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Speaker 3: so controversial that it would be damaging to the Liberal Party.
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Speaker 3: That's how out his political judgment is. I mean to
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Speaker 3: me that alone is disqualifying for him to be leader.
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Speaker 3: The fact that his political judgment is so hopelessly poor.
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Speaker 4: Now let's talk about the ABC.
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Speaker 3: Last night we showed you their shockingly biased reporting of
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Speaker 3: the pro Hasbula protests in Melbourne and Sydney over the weekend,
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Speaker 3: and it has now been revealed that the public broadcaster
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Speaker 3: has been hit with multiple complaints, including one from the
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Speaker 3: Executive Council of Australian Jury. Their legal counsel wrote the
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Speaker 3: segment presented was inaccurate, impartial, offensive, intimidating, an inflammatory content
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Speaker 3: that lauded Hezbollah leader Hassan Nazreela, assassinated leader of Hezbela
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Speaker 3: and utterly failed to contextualize Israel's military actions against Hezbollah.
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Speaker 3: That was part of the complaint. Let's have a quick
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Speaker 3: look at just some of that coverage.
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Speaker 1: You are again, then, forever on the wrong side of history.
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Speaker 1: Damn Australian policies when it comes to the Middle East.
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Speaker 5: A sentiment they'll project even louder next week as to
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Speaker 5: complete the year of weekly protests.
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Speaker 3: Patrick, this was a remarkably biased news report, even by
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Speaker 3: ABC standards.
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Speaker 4: And I emphasized the word news there because.
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Speaker 3: This wasn't part of an opinion show. It wasn't a
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Speaker 3: host sharing their personal opinions. It was supposed to be unbiased,
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Speaker 3: straight down the line, impartial news reporting.
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Speaker 2: Well, I would argue the ABC actually missed the story.
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Speaker 6: Here are all these people waving flags of a terrorist organization.
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Speaker 6: Why aren't you going up to them and saying what
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Speaker 6: are you about? Why are you doing this? That was
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Speaker 6: a story and followed by what happens to these people?
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Speaker 2: Are they visa holders? Are they going to be charged
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Speaker 2: with crimes?
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Speaker 6: That's the story And look, I can, to be fair,
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Speaker 6: been a journalist on the ground at times you can
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Speaker 6: only see what you can see. There should have been
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Speaker 6: wiser heads back in the office and h Q sort
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Speaker 6: of saying, well, hang on, this isn't right because there
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Speaker 6: was a complete lack of context. Having said that, I
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Speaker 6: mean you look at the Foreign Minister Penny Wong. I
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Speaker 6: mean she gives speeches to the UN and there's a
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Speaker 6: complete lack of context. This is a sort of infectious
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Speaker 6: disease almost that has afflicted.
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Speaker 4: But at least that's.
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Speaker 3: Her point of view, that sort of opinion, and it
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Speaker 3: seems to be those lines between news and opinion and
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Speaker 3: have been completely blurred. At the ABC, their charter is
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Speaker 3: an afterthought and this report it looked at in its entirety,
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Speaker 3: it was completely devoid of balance. There was not one
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Speaker 3: coalition MP. There wasn't one pro Israel person. There wasn't
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Speaker 3: one person critical of hes Bulah or supportive of these strikes.
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Speaker 3: It was just all one way traffic. Now, in a
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Speaker 3: massive blow for Quants' market dominance, Qatar Airways is said
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Speaker 3: to buy a twenty five percent stake in Virgin Australia,
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Speaker 3: which is sure to strengthen Virgin's position Patrick. This also
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Speaker 3: puts the Albanese government in a tricky position. They previously
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Speaker 3: blocked Qatar, but they want greater competition in this sector.
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Speaker 4: So everyone's going to be looking at what the reaction
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Speaker 4: is going to be to this.
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Speaker 3: Oh.
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Speaker 6: Absolutely, and look it has to go through the checks
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Speaker 6: and balances as these things do.
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Speaker 2: This is big business.
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Speaker 6: Anything that brings more competition, as this seems likely to do,
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Speaker 6: is a good thing. Because nobody cares about Quantus anymore.
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Speaker 6: I mean, Quantus lost the crowd last year. There is
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Speaker 6: no loyalty to Quantus. It was a national aricon for generations.
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Speaker 6: Now it's sort of seen as his company that ripped
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Speaker 6: off so many people brazenly. I think most people would
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Speaker 6: embrace just the competition. Some competition is good, More competition
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Speaker 6: is better, and if it means cheaper airfares, that's where
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Speaker 6: people's loyalties lie.
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Speaker 2: I think they want the cheapest fares they can.
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Speaker 3: I'm hearing a lot of chatter about, well, we can't
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Speaker 3: allow Qatar to take a part of Virgin Australia because
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Speaker 3: you look at the human rights abuses, you look at
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Speaker 3: the way they treat some of their staff, the way
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Speaker 3: they treat female workers.
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Speaker 4: What do you think about that argument?
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Speaker 3: Because I would my response to that be that's a
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Speaker 3: dangerous game to play. I'm not saying it's not a
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Speaker 3: valid point, but you look at Quantus and Emirates partnership
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Speaker 3: and some of the laws in that country and some
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Speaker 3: of the treatment of their people. So if you want
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Speaker 3: to be pure, you're going to have to see changes elsewhere.
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Speaker 3: You can't just have that attitude to Qatar and no
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Speaker 3: other company.
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Speaker 2: Where do you draw the line?
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Speaker 6: I mean, I think you've written columns before talking about
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Speaker 6: Admirates sponsoring the Sydney Swans.
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Speaker 4: I think it's actually Qatar is a Caitar.
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Speaker 2: And where do you draw the line?
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Speaker 6: I mean, there are there are issues that are dreadful,
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Speaker 6: that are anti Western, anti democratic. It'll always be multinational
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Speaker 6: type companies. If you're going to start drawing a line there,
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Speaker 6: then you're going to start looking at a lot of
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Speaker 6: other things as well.
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Speaker 2: The way of accepted for a long time.
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Speaker 6: I'm not saying I know what the answer is, to
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Speaker 6: be fair, but it is a slippery slope.
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Speaker 4: Now, this is a cute story.
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Speaker 3: Donald Trump has celebrated the success of his wife, Milani's
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Speaker 3: newly released book called Milania, after it became the number
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Speaker 3: one best seller on Amazon. Milani also gave a rare
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Speaker 3: interview to Fox News recently.
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Speaker 4: Here's some of that.
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Speaker 1: If we compared these four years under this administration compared
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Speaker 1: to four years under my husband as commander in chief,
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Speaker 1: he was leading the country through peace through strength, and
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Speaker 1: the border was safer than ever before. We didn't have
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Speaker 1: any wars. People were prospering, they had jobs, they could
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Speaker 1: support their families. So I think American people need to
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Speaker 1: decide what they really want.
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Speaker 7: Ah.
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Speaker 3: This is interesting because she's really not been particularly outspoken.
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Speaker 3: Here she's talking about She talked about costs of living, pressures,
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Speaker 3: the border crisis, the fact that things were a lot
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Speaker 3: better under her husband.
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Speaker 4: It was quite an extensive interview.
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Speaker 3: She talked about the lawfare against him, having her home raided.
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Speaker 4: Do you think this is going to help her?
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Speaker 3: Some would say she's not exactly relatable, she's so beautiful,
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Speaker 3: and she's not your.
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Speaker 4: Typical politician's wife.
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Speaker 3: But do you think it helps Trump's image to have
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Speaker 3: her out there talking about these issues?
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Speaker 6: Look, she has been sort of so invisible for this
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Speaker 6: entire campaign until now, which I think is sort of
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Speaker 6: more noticeable than what she's doing now.
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Speaker 2: It did strike me. The blurb for the book talked
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Speaker 2: about her.
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Speaker 6: Inspiring story and overcoming adversity. I don't think it's a
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Speaker 6: very relatable story. She's glamorous people who are interested in
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Speaker 6: glamorous people, and I think that probably explains why the
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Speaker 6: book is selling so well. Politically, I'm not sure. I mean,
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Speaker 6: it's a good question. Does this actually help Donald Trump
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Speaker 6: or is it a distraction?
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Speaker 4: I think it helps him.
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Speaker 3: I think it helps him in that as much as
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Speaker 3: she's not exactly relatable, people really do like her, and
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Speaker 3: she's intriguing and she's compelling, and I think it's certainly
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Speaker 3: something that elevates his image and perhaps elevates it in
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Speaker 3: the eyes of some women. But yeah, I can understand
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Speaker 3: why people say, yeah, she's not the girl next door,
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Speaker 3: she's not the typical politician's wife. Now, finally, I'm sure
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Speaker 3: you've all been told to keep changing those passwords regularly
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Speaker 3: to keep your online accounts secure. But US government security
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Speaker 3: experts I now recommend against this approach. They're saying, actually,
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Speaker 3: this is not the way to go, because this is
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Speaker 3: bane of my existence, constantly having to change passwords. Can
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Speaker 3: never remember what they are, you have to constantly reset them.
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Speaker 3: And apparently now the advice is don't keep changing them.
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Speaker 2: I like that advice like you like any someone.
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Speaker 3: Tell the news corp bosses about that and just circulate
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Speaker 3: that to everyone who makes us change them every month.
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Speaker 6: There's so many levels of security now, and that's probably
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Speaker 6: a good thing, but yes, it trips you up every
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Speaker 6: single day, whether it's your phone or your Google or
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Speaker 6: Amazon workspaces, whatever, and everybody is in the same position.
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Speaker 2: Yes, I've lost track. I like that advice.
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Speaker 3: I like that advice to Patrick Carlin and thank you
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Speaker 3: so much for your time. Joining me now is Federal
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Speaker 3: Liberal Senator Alex Antique. Alex, let's start with Labour's proposed
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Speaker 3: Misinformation and Online Safety Bill. The window for public submissions
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Speaker 3: has already closed, with a report on the public's verdict
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Speaker 3: on the new laws to be delivered by the end
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Speaker 3: of night November. Now, the Coalition is formally opposing this bill,
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Speaker 3: but is it going to pass the Senate? Are the
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Speaker 3: likes of Jackie Lamby and David Pocock going to back
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Speaker 3: such an Orwellian measure?
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Speaker 2: Yeah?
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Speaker 7: Well that is the million trillion dollar question reader. I
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Speaker 7: hope they don't. The Labor government introduced this bill several
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Speaker 7: weeks ago and in the last sitting week of Parliament
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Speaker 7: shipped it off to a committee which had seven days
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Speaker 7: for submissions. If you can believe that this is one
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Speaker 7: of the most expansive overhauls of free speech in this
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Speaker 7: country we've seen in living memory probably and seven days
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Speaker 7: were given. Look, this just the message needs to get
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Speaker 7: through to the cross bench. This will all hinge on
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Speaker 7: those five or six senators who sit on the cross bench,
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Speaker 7: people like David Pocock and Jackie Lamby, Fatima Payman and others.
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Speaker 7: And what I would say to them is what is
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Speaker 7: good for the left of politics can also be good
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Speaker 7: for the right. And so this is a bill which
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Speaker 7: should be defeated for the sake of free speech in
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Speaker 7: this country. If this bill passes and we give bureaucrats
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Speaker 7: and the courts the ability to tell us what's true
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Speaker 7: and what's not online, then free speech in this country
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Speaker 7: is dead now.
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Speaker 3: One interested citizen who did make a submission is former
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Speaker 3: Deputy Chief Medical Officer Nick Coatesworth, and he was in
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Speaker 3: that crucial role during the height of the COVID era
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Speaker 3: and he has shared this and I want to read
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Speaker 3: from it because I think this is really important. Doctor
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Speaker 3: Coatesworth wrote the Branding of legitimate debate on COVID as
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Speaker 3: misinformation both during the pandemic and ongoing has provoked me
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Speaker 3: to write a submission to the Senate Committee overseeing the
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Speaker 3: Combating Misinformation and Disinformation Bill. This bill should be rejected
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Speaker 3: in its entirety. In the Combating Misinformation and Disinformation Bill's
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Speaker 3: definition of serious harm, the following phrase is used harm
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Speaker 3: to public health in Australia, including the efficacy of preventative
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Speaker 3: health measures in Australia. It's quite astonishing to me that
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Speaker 3: after the pandemic, when we're all becoming acutely aware of
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Speaker 3: facts that changed over the course of the pandemic, yes,
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Speaker 3: including the nature of airborne spread, amongst many others, that
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Speaker 3: we would find our Parliament debating a bill where any
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Speaker 3: number of legitimate concerns about public health policy could be
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Speaker 3: branded misinformation by the government or the scientific orthodoxy of
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Speaker 3: the moment. Alex he put it perfectly, is one hundred
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Speaker 3: percent right about the word misinformation, the word disinformation being
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Speaker 3: weaponized as a means to shut down debate.
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Speaker 7: Yeah, look at a point well made and will received
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Speaker 7: too from somebody that knows the bureaucracy, certainly in the
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Speaker 7: health care sector as much as anyone could and the
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Speaker 7: points are one hundred percent right. I mean this is
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Speaker 7: we will see if this bill passes, what is true
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Speaker 7: and what is not will become a matter for the
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Speaker 7: so called expertocracy, and in my view, that's where the
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Speaker 7: real misinformation and disinformation lies. I mean, you know, we
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Speaker 7: saw that through the pandemic, and we saw the Department
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Speaker 7: of Home Affairs pulling down or requesting posts from Australians
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Speaker 7: to be pulled down that were actually true and demonstrably
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Speaker 7: true even at the time, I would say, but certainly
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Speaker 7: after the fact. So it's important that we get people
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Speaker 7: like doctor Coatsworth to make statements like this. I think
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Speaker 7: his voice will carry a lot of sway. I think
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Speaker 7: people will listen to it and they'll understand. And it
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Speaker 7: is one hundred percent right. This bill will seek to
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Speaker 7: politicize free speech and it will shut down important information
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Speaker 7: being given to the Australian public. We know why this
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Speaker 7: is being done. There is a global push on censorship
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Speaker 7: at the moment. The World Economic Forum, by the way Reader,
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Speaker 7: in their Global Risks Report for twenty twenty four, hold
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Speaker 7: out mis information as the number one risk to the
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Speaker 7: globe to the globe at the moment, So you know,
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Speaker 7: there are people in very high places that are very
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Speaker 7: keen to push this through. In my view is that
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Speaker 7: some of the people inside the Labor Party may even
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Speaker 7: not understand what they are playing with at the moment.
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Speaker 7: They're playing with fire.
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Speaker 3: That absolutely playing with fire, and I think this is
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Speaker 3: going to become Obviously, cost of living right now is
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Speaker 3: the number one issue and probably will be at the
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Speaker 3: next election. But this is a fundamental issue. This is
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Speaker 3: like the Voice referendum, where people have to understand the
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Speaker 3: significance of this legislation and what it will mean to
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Speaker 3: their day to day lives and how it will change Australia. Now, Alex,
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Speaker 3: you've been asking questions about a visit to Australia earlier
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Speaker 3: this month by Nina Jankowitz, the former head of the
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Speaker 3: US government's disinformation Government Border that only lasted for about
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Speaker 3: a month in twenty twenty two before being dissolved. It
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Speaker 3: was are widely mocked and criticized. Do we know if
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Speaker 3: she met with our a Safety Commissioner, Julie Inman Grant
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Speaker 3: while she was in the country.
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Speaker 7: Well, look, I don't know for sure. I've seen online
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Speaker 7: reports that she did. My interest is knowing who she
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Speaker 7: met with, who of the government, who of the ministers,
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Speaker 7: who of our statutory bodies like the Commissioner for Online Safety,
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Speaker 7: and what they spoke about. I mean, I think the
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Speaker 7: timing of this visit is quite interesting. When it happened,
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Speaker 7: I think a week or so in advance of the
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Speaker 7: introduction of the Combating Misinformation and Disinformation Bill. These are
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Speaker 7: people on the public payroll and I think the Australian
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Speaker 7: people have a right to know what was discussed and
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Speaker 7: who she met with. I don't think we can draw
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Speaker 7: anything out of that, other than to say it would
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Speaker 7: be interesting to know what the flavor of the discussion was.
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Speaker 7: I moved a motion in the Senate to ask for
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Speaker 7: those documents to be produced and lo and behold labor
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Speaker 7: and the Greens didn't want to. I wonder what we
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Speaker 7: can draw from that.
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Speaker 3: Yes, precisely, I'll keep my comments to myself on that issue,
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Speaker 3: but I do wonder why the opposition doesn't come out
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Speaker 3: and oppose some of the excesses of that office. The
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Speaker 3: e Safety Commissioner E Karen Julianeman Grant, the way she
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Speaker 3: has conducted herself in that role is deserving of criticism,
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Speaker 3: but still some within the coalition, and I'm not talking
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Speaker 3: about fringe players here. We're talking about the leadership who
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Speaker 3: expressed support for her despite the fact that she has
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Speaker 3: politicized this role.
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Speaker 7: Yeah well, I mean, I think what it shows is
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Speaker 7: the trouble with having this office at all. Frankly, I mean,
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Speaker 7: without making specific comments about the Commissioner herself, I think
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Speaker 7: rather than playing the man, we look at the role itself.
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Speaker 7: You have to remember, reader, this started off as the
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Speaker 7: Office for protecting online speech against children. She was the
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Speaker 7: Children's Online Safety Commissioner to start off with, and the
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Speaker 7: mission creep on this has evolved to the point where
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Speaker 7: we are now talking about online safety. We see this
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Speaker 7: so often with laws that are designed to protect safety
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Speaker 7: is always the issue. When we see these, the mission
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Speaker 7: creep become real. So look, my concern is for free speech,
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Speaker 7: free speech generally, but free speech online as a subset.
20:24
Speaker 7: And look, I don't want to see those powers broadened.
20:27
Speaker 7: I don't want to see bureaucrats in the form of
20:30
Speaker 7: ACMA having more powers than we currently do if this
20:33
Speaker 7: bill were to pass. And of course all this overlays
20:36
Speaker 7: onto the Digital ID framework and the sorts of things
20:39
Speaker 7: that people like I and you might say, have been
20:41
Speaker 7: warning about for years on in which is a surveillance state.
20:45
Speaker 7: And I think that is where we were headed if
20:46
Speaker 7: Parliament doesn't start to push back on these laws.
20:52
Speaker 3: Now, just finally, the Queensland Liberal National Party is preferencing
20:57
Speaker 3: Labor above the Greens and the upcoming election, surely Labor
21:02
Speaker 3: must do likewise, they cannot complain about how extreme the
21:06
Speaker 3: Greens are becoming and then being in effective coalition with them.
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Speaker 7: Well, it's almost like a sort of a weekly punch
21:15
Speaker 7: and duty show at in the halls of Parliament here
21:19
Speaker 7: in Canberra, where we see Labor pretending to be not
21:22
Speaker 7: in lockstep with some of the things the Greens are
21:25
Speaker 7: doing and vice versa, and they sort of performatively argue
21:29
Speaker 7: with each other across the chamber in our chamber, and
21:32
Speaker 7: of course we know the problems Labor have. Labor have
21:35
Speaker 7: problems with their left flank, and they sort of almost
21:39
Speaker 7: have to be seen to be sympathetic to some of
21:41
Speaker 7: these things, whereas you know that, of course is not
21:44
Speaker 7: the case on the other side of the chamber. Look,
21:46
Speaker 7: I think the thing that Labor and the Labor Right
21:49
Speaker 7: in particular need to understand is this is not the
21:51
Speaker 7: Greens of years gone by. That the Greens, Australian Greens
21:55
Speaker 7: in this country are no longer simply an environmental party.
21:58
Speaker 7: They have transformed into something quite differ, and Labor would
22:01
Speaker 7: be wise to cast them off and preference them last
22:05
Speaker 7: as you say, like we.
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Speaker 4: Do, Santantic, thank you for your time still to come.
22:11
Speaker 3: And Lefties losing it and Josh Hammer with the latest
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Speaker 3: from the US, including the Biden Harris administrations woeful response
22:19
Speaker 3: to Hurricane Helene. Welcome back, and it's time for lefties
22:34
Speaker 3: losing it.
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Speaker 4: Now here is a vile.
22:37
Speaker 3: Vile lefties celebrating a deadly, devastating hurricane hitting Republican states.
22:44
Speaker 4: These people are evil.
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Speaker 8: So when I seen the hurricane head in North Carolina
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Speaker 8: and Tennessee, the first thing I thought was, damn, there've
22:53
Speaker 8: got some recess there. There we go, we got some gune.
22:57
Speaker 8: And then as you've seen this video that like the
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Speaker 8: area is like Sundowntown out there, Sundowntown after Sundowntown, and
23:03
Speaker 8: they are just completely flattened and gone. And I was like,
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Speaker 8: God's work, God's work.
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Speaker 4: I have no words for that, really, And I regret
23:12
Speaker 4: to inform you now that Kamala is back at it
23:15
Speaker 4: back with the word.
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Speaker 3: Salads, the non answers, the endless references to her childhood
23:21
Speaker 3: when asked serious questions about the economy and small business.
23:25
Speaker 4: Just listen to this mess.
23:27
Speaker 9: Moving forward for people who are living paycheck to paycheck
23:30
Speaker 9: and struggling for groceries and rent and homeowners.
23:35
Speaker 10: So, look, I grew up. So my sister and I
23:38
Speaker 10: were raised by our mother. We lived for a long
23:41
Speaker 10: time in an apartment on top.
23:43
Speaker 4: Of a childcare center.
23:46
Speaker 10: That childcare center was actually owned by a woman who
23:50
Speaker 10: lived two doors down from us, missus Shelton, who was,
23:54
Speaker 10: by all of our accounts and feelings, our second mother.
23:58
Speaker 4: She helped raise us.
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Speaker 10: And so she was a small business owner. So I'll
24:03
Speaker 10: start with the small business and congratulations. I want you guys,
24:05
Speaker 10: do I, from a child, knew who our small business
24:09
Speaker 10: owners are?
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Speaker 3: Right, So she knew from when she was a child
24:13
Speaker 3: what a small business owner was because she knew one. Great,
24:18
Speaker 3: what has that got to do with anything? Maybe there
24:21
Speaker 3: will be an answer to a straightforward question in this
24:24
Speaker 3: next bit.
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Speaker 4: Fingers crossed.
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Speaker 10: I mean your business leaders, but you're also civic leaders.
24:29
Speaker 10: You take seriously your voice and how you can mentor
24:33
Speaker 10: how you can grow right communities and the sense of communities.
24:38
Speaker 10: I love our small businesses, and so a lot of
24:40
Speaker 10: my work in terms of building and growing the economy
24:43
Speaker 10: has focused on small businesses. And my vision overall is
24:48
Speaker 10: we need to build an opportunity economy in which we
24:51
Speaker 10: increase opportunity for all, including small business owners. So I've
24:54
Speaker 10: been responsible for billions of dollars more now going into
24:58
Speaker 10: our community banks because they're in the community, and then
25:01
Speaker 10: they know who's in the community, and where the town is,
25:04
Speaker 10: and who's doing good in the community, what the community wants.
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Speaker 3: Yes, community banks, they're in the community for the community. Yeah,
25:10
Speaker 3: spending billions that sounds a bit like communism. Doesn't sound
25:13
Speaker 3: like she has any idea about small business.
25:16
Speaker 4: And here is further proof of that.
25:19
Speaker 3: Here is Kamala with Hollywood actress Jessica Alba. Jessica Alba
25:24
Speaker 3: even she looks a little bit confused about this.
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Speaker 10: First of all, Latinas small businesses are the fastest growing
25:29
Speaker 10: in the country.
25:30
Speaker 4: They are right right, they are.
25:32
Speaker 10: But included in that is that we don't lack for
25:36
Speaker 10: people who have ambition and have aspirations and dreams and
25:41
Speaker 10: an idea. That is a great idea and work ethic,
25:46
Speaker 10: but not everybody has access to the Capitol. And I
25:50
Speaker 10: believe strongly that our small businesses are the backbone of
25:54
Speaker 10: America's economy. So when we grow and strength and small businesses,
25:58
Speaker 10: we all benefit.
25:59
Speaker 4: Now this is a miracle.
26:01
Speaker 3: There's actually a funny skit from Saturday Not Live, Get
26:06
Speaker 3: Ready to Love.
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Speaker 10: Listen up, everyone. We couldn't have gotten here without one man,
26:12
Speaker 10: and his name is Joe Biden.
26:15
Speaker 4: You don't know here Joe Biden.
26:37
Speaker 2: Pose. That's right.
26:39
Speaker 5: A lot of people forget I'm president, include me. Guess what,
26:44
Speaker 5: By the way, I've been serious right now, come on,
26:51
Speaker 5: guess what. By the way, the fact of the matter
26:56
Speaker 5: is the rich don't day a fair share.
27:01
Speaker 4: Now, it doesn't get more wacky than this.
27:04
Speaker 3: Here is friend liberboots on Bill Maher's program advocating for
27:09
Speaker 3: President Joe Biden to abolish the Supreme Court. These are
27:13
Speaker 3: the people telling you Republicans are extremists and.
27:16
Speaker 4: Trump is a threat to democracy.
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Speaker 11: It's not even a court. It's only a court in
27:21
Speaker 11: the sense that the Court of the sixteenth.
27:24
Speaker 6: Was a court.
27:25
Speaker 11: You know, I mean, basically, it's a harem. Okay, it's
27:30
Speaker 11: a harem. It's Trump's harem. So I always feel sorry
27:32
Speaker 11: for the three real judges on the court. What Biden
27:35
Speaker 11: should do?
27:35
Speaker 4: Nothing that you asked. But when they passed that.
27:37
Speaker 11: Law, the spremem Court passed that ruling, you know where
27:40
Speaker 11: they said, you're not the president, you're the king, which
27:42
Speaker 11: is what that ruling is.
27:44
Speaker 4: You can do whatever you want.
27:45
Speaker 11: You can never be held responsible. Biden should dissolve the
27:48
Speaker 11: Supreme Court, dissolve the subren.
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Speaker 1: I'm the president, I'm the king now, like you said,
27:57
Speaker 1: and go home.
27:59
Speaker 3: Even Bill Mama was looking at her like she was
28:02
Speaker 3: a complete whacker doode. All these are mainstream figures in
28:06
Speaker 3: the Left, They're not fringe figures, and they are well
28:09
Speaker 3: they're left is losing it now to Hurricane Helene, which
28:13
Speaker 3: has caused widespread destruction across a number of US states.
28:17
Speaker 3: But President Joe Biden, well he's still president. He remained
28:22
Speaker 3: at his Delaware holiday home until earlier today, and it
28:27
Speaker 3: was none too please when asked about why he wasn't
28:30
Speaker 3: monitoring this catastrophic event from the White House, like you know,
28:34
Speaker 3: you'd expect the president to be doing time to.
28:37
Speaker 12: Retaliate and the hurricane is from President Why weren't she
28:40
Speaker 12: and Vice President Harris.
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Speaker 2: Jar in Washington commanding this.
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Speaker 4: I was community. I was on the file for at
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Speaker 4: least two hours yesterday in the day before as well.
28:51
Speaker 2: A command is called telephone. It's an all most security view.
28:54
Speaker 2: It's a nine import president populacy.
28:57
Speaker 4: Now, plenty more lefties content with my next gas And.
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Speaker 3: Yes, we've already seen Joe Biden lounging at the beaches.
29:04
Speaker 3: States are devastated in the aftermath of Hurricane Helene, which
29:08
Speaker 3: has caused widespread destruction in Florida, Georgia, North and South Carolina,
29:13
Speaker 3: as well as Tennessee and Alabama. Over one hundred dead,
29:17
Speaker 3: many more still missing. President Trump has been on the ground.
29:21
Speaker 3: He's been speaking with those involved in rescue efforts.
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Speaker 13: And they said they've never seen one despad. Valdasa has
29:29
Speaker 13: been ravaged. The town is very, very badly hurting, and
29:35
Speaker 13: many thousands are without power.
29:36
Speaker 2: They're running low on.
29:37
Speaker 13: Food and fuips will endure. We will rebuild Valdasa and
29:42
Speaker 13: every other town that has been so badly hit and
29:45
Speaker 13: will merge stronger, more united, and more prosperous than ever before.
29:50
Speaker 13: You're going to be stronger, better, You're going to learn
29:53
Speaker 13: a lot from it, and again we pray to God
29:55
Speaker 13: for those that have been so badly injured, and for
29:59
Speaker 13: in particular for the people that are no longer with us.
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Speaker 3: Joining me now is senior editor at Large at newswek
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Speaker 3: Josh Hamma Josh. The response of the President and the
30:09
Speaker 3: Vice President must be said, is being a substandard.
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Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean that might qualify as the understatement of
30:18
Speaker 9: the century. Substandard. I mean, I mean Kamala Harris, I suppose,
30:21
Speaker 9: was bothered on social media to stage this photo op
30:25
Speaker 9: where she was trying to bamboozle the masses here into
30:28
Speaker 9: thinking that she was actually doing something. But in this
30:30
Speaker 9: photo of some various stute people on x pointed out
30:34
Speaker 9: she has those iPhone earbuds that plug into your phone,
30:37
Speaker 9: but her phone is on the desk and she's pretending
30:39
Speaker 9: to be on a phone call.
30:40
Speaker 4: It's not even plugged in.
30:42
Speaker 9: It's not even plugged in. There's and there's a piece
30:44
Speaker 9: of paper in front of her as if she's taking
30:46
Speaker 9: notes from the FEMA director. It's a blank piece of paper.
30:49
Speaker 9: I mean, you know, if you're gonna fake it and
30:51
Speaker 9: try to make it look like you're making it, you know,
30:53
Speaker 9: you know at least, don't don't just do it this poorly.
30:57
Speaker 9: I I mean, try to try to make it look
30:59
Speaker 9: like you're at least attempting to cover your tracks, for
31:02
Speaker 9: God's sake. Meanwhile, Joe Biden, who has never been more
31:05
Speaker 9: clearly out to launch, is confusing a labor strike with
31:07
Speaker 9: the Israeli strike. On the who Thi's they asked him
31:09
Speaker 9: for what he thought about the Israeli Operation Yemen. He said,
31:12
Speaker 9: he supports collective bargaining, as if it's a labor dispute
31:15
Speaker 9: with the United Auto Workers in a picket line. I mean,
31:18
Speaker 9: I mean, this is just catastrophic and competent. This is
31:21
Speaker 9: very much this administration's version of what happened to Hurricane
31:25
Speaker 9: Katrina under George W. Bush is actually much worse in
31:28
Speaker 9: terms of the incompetence. But back then, Kanye West infamously
31:31
Speaker 9: said that George W. Bush hates black people, which was
31:33
Speaker 9: a racist smear back then and is a smear today.
31:36
Speaker 9: But this very DEI so called equity obsessed administration. On
31:41
Speaker 9: the FEMA website today, I took a look earlier and
31:44
Speaker 9: I noted that they have diversity listed as their number
31:47
Speaker 9: one goal for the agency or agency for federal disasters.
31:50
Speaker 9: You know, this equity obsessed administration is currently leaving behind
31:54
Speaker 9: overwhelmingly disroportionately working class and poor white people in Apple
32:00
Speaker 9: in North Carolina. It is a horrific, horrific look this
32:03
Speaker 9: close to an election, and.
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Speaker 3: I've seen just some absolutely appalling commentary online on social
32:11
Speaker 3: media from people that are almost celebrating this because it's
32:15
Speaker 3: hitting Republican heavy areas. I mean, that sort of ugliness,
32:21
Speaker 3: callousness is just so depressing to see in America, but
32:26
Speaker 3: it certainly does exist. Now, moving on, Josh, We've also
32:29
Speaker 3: seen some interesting polling numbers regarding the Hispanic vote in America.
32:35
Speaker 3: Listen to this breakdown of the data from NBC Steve Konaki.
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Speaker 14: We ask a basic question of Hispanic voters, which party
32:44
Speaker 14: do you more identify with Thirty seven percent now say Republicans,
32:48
Speaker 14: forty nine percent say Democrats.
32:50
Speaker 4: But again, look at.
32:51
Speaker 14: How this has shifted in just the last dozen years.
32:54
Speaker 14: In twenty twelve, this was a forty one point advantage
32:57
Speaker 14: for the Democrats. It has come all the way down
32:59
Speaker 14: to twelve points, Kristen, a twenty nine point drop in
33:03
Speaker 14: terms of that gap there on which party Hispanics identify
33:07
Speaker 14: with in just twelve.
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Speaker 3: Years, and Josh, I wouldn't be surprised if those figures
33:13
Speaker 3: are actually even close closer on election day. What do
33:17
Speaker 3: you think has been behind this trend. It's a fairly
33:20
Speaker 3: dramatic realignment in just twelve years.
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Speaker 9: Yeah, you know, it's interesting. It's actually not just Hispanic votes.
33:28
Speaker 9: It very much does include Hispanic voters, but young black
33:31
Speaker 9: men in particular are breaking for Republicans this cycle like
33:34
Speaker 9: never before. Donald Trump could probably get up the twenty
33:37
Speaker 9: five percent of the young blackmail vote, you know, even
33:39
Speaker 9: just younger Americans, the eighteen to thirty five demographic, you
33:42
Speaker 9: include millennials and gen z and there. You know, it's
33:45
Speaker 9: looking clearly to be a single digit margin. A few
33:48
Speaker 9: months ago, when it was actually well within the margin
33:50
Speaker 9: of Arrea, I wouldn't surprise me if it ended up there.
33:52
Speaker 9: You know, the Hispanic vote has been shifting very slowly,
33:56
Speaker 9: but very steadily towards the right for a very long
33:59
Speaker 9: time now. Hispanic people in America are disproportionately Catholic. You
34:03
Speaker 9: have some evangelicals, you know, they're good common sense individuals
34:06
Speaker 9: who don't like being pandered to, and the Democratic Party
34:09
Speaker 9: when it comes to Hispanic voters, they try to pander
34:12
Speaker 9: them by just encouraging more illegal immigration. There are a
34:14
Speaker 9: lot of problems with that. One, it's deeply infantilizing and
34:17
Speaker 9: belittling to assume that just because you happen to share
34:20
Speaker 9: a native language, among other things, with someone, that you
34:22
Speaker 9: support people entering the country illegally. Second, probably even more
34:26
Speaker 9: to the point, a lot of the communities where Hispanic
34:28
Speaker 9: Americans hit are the hardest hit by the illegal alien
34:32
Speaker 9: invasion and all the crime and the drugs, and the
34:34
Speaker 9: drug and the human trafficking, the sex trafficking. So it's
34:37
Speaker 9: a totally toxic stew right now. You know, it's interesting
34:40
Speaker 9: if Donald Trump wins this election, which I actually do
34:42
Speaker 9: predict that he's going to do, he's going to do
34:44
Speaker 9: so with essentially a multi ethnic, working class coalition the
34:49
Speaker 9: likes of which the Republican Party has really never had
34:52
Speaker 9: in modern times. And you know, again, as someone who
34:55
Speaker 9: I hope that he wins, I just hope that he
34:57
Speaker 9: keeps it up.
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Speaker 3: Yes, that'll be interesting. You mentioned the black vote fracturing,
35:04
Speaker 3: particularly amongst young black men. That's going to be fascinating
35:07
Speaker 3: to see because the black demographic has voted ninety percent
35:13
Speaker 3: plus for Democrats for so many years, so to fracture
35:16
Speaker 3: that is.
35:17
Speaker 4: Quite an achievement.
35:20
Speaker 3: Now, I want to get your comments on high profile
35:22
Speaker 3: American author and social commentator fran Libovitz.
35:26
Speaker 4: She's a darling of the left.
35:28
Speaker 3: She's embarrassed herself again with these remarks on Bill marsh
35:32
Speaker 3: Shaw Show. The sad thing is, Josh, that many on
35:36
Speaker 3: the left agree with her about her calls to have
35:41
Speaker 3: Joe Biden abolish the Supreme Court.
35:45
Speaker 4: What biden'sh You do not think, you asked.
35:47
Speaker 11: But when they passed that law, themport passed that ruling,
35:50
Speaker 11: you know where they said, you're not the president, you're
35:52
Speaker 11: the king, which is what that ruling is. You can
35:54
Speaker 11: do whatever you want. You can never be held responsible, Biden.
35:58
Speaker 11: She diserves the Supreme Court dissolved.
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Speaker 3: It's incredible, Josh, that they say Donald Trump is the
36:08
Speaker 3: threat to democracy, threat to norms, threats to the republic,
36:12
Speaker 3: and the left of mainstream this sort of natty Ritrick.
36:18
Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean, I'm running out of how many norms
36:22
Speaker 9: or so called norms to count that people on the
36:24
Speaker 9: left these days just continue to tear down I mean,
36:27
Speaker 9: out of one end of the mouth, they are clamoring
36:29
Speaker 9: that Donald Trump is a world historical threat to American democracy.
36:33
Speaker 9: On the other end, they are openly calling for the
36:35
Speaker 9: abolition of one of our three branches of governments established
36:38
Speaker 9: an Article three of the Constitution, the judicial branch.
36:41
Speaker 6: You know.
36:42
Speaker 9: Otherwise, they have been trying to literally take Donald Trump
36:45
Speaker 9: off of the ballot. That was a case out of Colorado.
36:47
Speaker 9: It was the Trump versus Anderson case at the US
36:49
Speaker 9: Supreme Court. I can personally probably think of no more
36:52
Speaker 9: quick essentially undemocratic acts. If the word democracy means anything,
36:56
Speaker 9: means the ability of the demost the people to actually
36:59
Speaker 9: vote for office, it doesn't get much more undemocratic than
37:01
Speaker 9: denying your opponent's actual ballot access. How about the fact
37:05
Speaker 9: that the Biden Harris Merrick Girland administration is literally trying
37:08
Speaker 9: to bankrupt and incarcerate, yes, actually incarcrate the opposition. So
37:12
Speaker 9: called special counsel Jack Smith, who was a Democrat lawfair
37:15
Speaker 9: complex hitman Jack Smith just filed a one hundred and
37:18
Speaker 9: eighty page brief in their delusional January sixth case in Washington,
37:22
Speaker 9: d C. That was his past Thursday. A day later,
37:24
Speaker 9: on Friday, he filed emotion to actually make public most
37:28
Speaker 9: of that brief Rita, there is one reason and one
37:30
Speaker 9: reason only why Jack Smith wants to make public in October,
37:34
Speaker 9: just before an election, all of the various details about
37:37
Speaker 9: January sixth. That is election interference if I have ever
37:40
Speaker 9: seen it. By the way, goes right against the Department
37:43
Speaker 9: of Justice's own internal manual, which explicitly says you can't
37:46
Speaker 9: do that, but they're doing it anyway, and God willing,
37:48
Speaker 9: the voters of America will make them pay a price
37:50
Speaker 9: for it.
37:52
Speaker 3: The law fair to may has been third world banana
37:57
Speaker 3: republic despot nation behavior to as you said, essentially try
38:03
Speaker 3: to bankrupt and jail your leading political opponent. And we
38:08
Speaker 3: know these cases are trumped up. Excuse the pun. They've
38:12
Speaker 3: created laws to just get one person. Now, I want
38:16
Speaker 3: to ask you about abortion. It's an issue that gets
38:19
Speaker 3: plenty of coverage, including in Australia, about what's happening in
38:23
Speaker 3: the US, and the debate is just littered with fake news,
38:27
Speaker 3: deliberate lies, and I'm thinking these lies are very dangerous, Josh.
38:34
Speaker 3: There's a recent one claiming that a woman died due
38:36
Speaker 3: to abortion bands in Georgia, when the death was due
38:41
Speaker 3: to complications after the abortion pill was taken, and there's
38:46
Speaker 3: doctors in Georgia speaking out about these false claims. And
38:49
Speaker 3: I want to play you a clip here of Senator
38:52
Speaker 3: James Langford. He tried to get some clarity on this
38:55
Speaker 3: issue from Texas assistant former Texas assistant and solicit a general,
39:01
Speaker 3: Heather Hacker to just clarify what is actual fact and
39:05
Speaker 3: what is sca ungering.
39:08
Speaker 12: Miss Hackler, just to clarify on this. Are there any
39:12
Speaker 12: states where women face prosecution for having an abortion?
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Speaker 6: No?
39:16
Speaker 12: Are there any states that criminalize miscarriage?
39:20
Speaker 6: No?
39:21
Speaker 12: Are they care for a miscarriage?
39:23
Speaker 2: No?
39:24
Speaker 12: Are there any states that criminalize removing an ectopic pregnancy?
39:27
Speaker 6: No?
39:28
Speaker 12: Are there any states that prohibit life saving care for
39:31
Speaker 12: the mother?
39:32
Speaker 6: No?
39:33
Speaker 12: Are there any states where women have to be actively
39:37
Speaker 12: dying for a doctor to be able to act for
39:40
Speaker 12: her care.
39:40
Speaker 8: No.
39:42
Speaker 12: There's been a lot of rhetoric in this that I'm
39:44
Speaker 12: concerned pushes people away from getting access to healthcare.
39:51
Speaker 3: Josh Kamala Harris has made claims of women being arrested
39:55
Speaker 3: for having a miscarriage. She claimed a woman died due
39:59
Speaker 3: to the is and let me quote her word for
40:02
Speaker 3: word here. She said women are being denied care during miscarriages,
40:07
Speaker 3: some only being treated once they developed sepsis. And we
40:11
Speaker 3: know that women have died because of Trump abortion bands.
40:16
Speaker 3: This is not just disinformation, Josh, it's dangerous. If women
40:21
Speaker 3: think they're going to get arrested for having a miscarriage,
40:24
Speaker 3: they may not seek medical care and that could have
40:28
Speaker 3: catastrophic consequences.
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Speaker 9: Well, that's actually literally what happened in Georgia. I mean
40:34
Speaker 9: exactly what you just said is what happened. So there's
40:36
Speaker 9: women in Georgia. She took an abortion pill. And by
40:40
Speaker 9: the way, the Democrats are singularly responsible for liberalizing the
40:43
Speaker 9: abortion pill. You can get it via telemedicine. Now the
40:45
Speaker 9: mail to you in the postal service, you know, no
40:47
Speaker 9: doctor supervision necessary or anything like that. You know there
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Speaker 9: and the advertiser as if the abortion pill mifipristone usually
40:55
Speaker 9: the advertise as if it's just as safe as popping
40:57
Speaker 9: a taylenol or an advil. Unfortunately, we we actually have
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Speaker 9: data on this and that's not in fact the case.
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Speaker 9: So what happened to this woman in Georgia is she
41:04
Speaker 9: developed severe complications, and what you just said is what happened.
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Speaker 9: She chose not to seek care. She didn't go to
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Speaker 9: a hospital or the er or anything because she thought
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Speaker 9: that she couldn't be helped, because she believed the left
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Speaker 9: wing media lies that in a situation like that, then
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Speaker 9: you cannot get anything, anything, literally anything to say that
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Speaker 9: the life mother. Look, you know read, I've been a
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Speaker 9: pro life activist for most of my adult life. I
41:29
Speaker 9: founded the Law Students for Life chapter at the University
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Speaker 9: of Chicago Law School. I've spoken in pro life conferences
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Speaker 9: for years. I have never met a single pro lifer
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Speaker 9: of any ethical, religious, moral persuasion or anything whoever, ever, Ever,
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Speaker 9: in a situation where an unborn child's mother, a mother's
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Speaker 9: life is actually on the line, of course, you do
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Speaker 9: whatever necessary has to be done. These are lies, These
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Speaker 9: are grotesque lies. There are lies designed to gin up
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Speaker 9: their base, to fear monger, and to scare people into
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Speaker 9: voting for them. But it's totally totally disingenuous. By the way,
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Speaker 9: she also openly lied at the presidential debate as well,
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Speaker 9: when you said the dal Trump supports a national abortion band,
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Speaker 9: much to the chagrin of art and ProLife for such
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Speaker 9: as myself, he does not. That's actually not his stance.
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Speaker 9: I kind of wish that it was, but I understand
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Speaker 9: politically why it's not. But he's very clear that it's
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Speaker 9: back to the states, and they're lying on that front
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Speaker 9: as well as you did.
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Speaker 3: Well, Yeah, the Supreme Court giving the power back to
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Speaker 3: the states. It's precisely the situation here in Australia. The
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Speaker 3: states make laws in relation to abortion, and I know
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Speaker 3: in the US you've got states that are limit abortion,
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Speaker 3: and then you've got states that have got abortion right
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Speaker 3: up to the end of the third trimester pretty much
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Speaker 3: with no term limits on when an abortion can be
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Speaker 3: carried out. So that's again, that sort of nuance is
42:53
Speaker 3: not being reported on, certainly here in Australia, because I
42:56
Speaker 3: get so many questions from people about what's happening with
42:59
Speaker 3: abortion in America, and so much of it is misinformation,
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Speaker 3: just blatant misinformation.
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Speaker 4: Josh Hammer, thank you so much for your time, this
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Speaker 4: evening always a pleasure. Thank you still to come.
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Speaker 3: Freyer Leech on Peter Ducan's push to deport or jail
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Speaker 3: those who weighed terrorist flags at protests.
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Speaker 4: You're watching the reader panning here show.
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Speaker 3: Joining me now is freyer Leish, director of the Center
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Speaker 3: for Youth Policy, at the Menzies Research Center. Freyer Opposition
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Speaker 3: leader Peter Dutton has demanded that the Albanesi government push
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Speaker 3: for the prosecution of protesters under recently introduced anti terror laws,
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Speaker 3: which banned the display of terror symbols.
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Speaker 4: Is called for the laws.
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Speaker 3: To be used to cancel visas, with Home Affairs Minster
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Speaker 3: Tony Burke asking state authorities to check the visa status
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Speaker 3: of pro hasbular protesters.
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Speaker 4: What's your reaction been to the way authorities have handled
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Speaker 4: this so far.
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Speaker 15: I'm so glad Tony Burke is actually finally taking a
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Speaker 15: stand against these people. All we've seen from labor really
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Speaker 15: since October seven and since those first terrible protests where
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Speaker 15: people took over the Opera house and we're chanting gas
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Speaker 15: the Jews wears the Jews, whatever it was. But since
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Speaker 15: then it has been weakness after weakness. We have seen
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Speaker 15: really no decisive action. I don't think we've seen any
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Speaker 15: visas canceled. Have we seen anyone actually prosecuted? I don't know.
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Speaker 15: I don't think so. And so we need a government
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Speaker 15: that actually stands up and says anti Semitism is not okay,
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Speaker 15: Spreading hatred and fear is not okay. And if you
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Speaker 15: openly celebrate and display the flags of terrorist organizations, you should,
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Speaker 15: according to our own law here in Australia, be prosecuted
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Speaker 15: because that is a crime.
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Speaker 3: Well, why didn't we see arrests on the weekend? We
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Speaker 3: had people marching that were waving, like you said, the
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Speaker 3: symbols of a terror group, and police were observing that.
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Speaker 3: There really didn't seem to be any effort to do
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Speaker 3: anything about it beyond observing what was happening. Do you
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Speaker 3: think they're more concerned with maintaining the peace and not
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Speaker 3: aggravating these protesters ultimately?
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Speaker 15: And I don't know this, but I have had a
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Speaker 15: few off the record conversations with policemen in New South
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Speaker 15: Wales and Victoria, and I think two things are happening here.
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Speaker 15: One is they're getting directions from the top, so the
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Speaker 15: police are acting on whatever the police minister says at
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Speaker 15: a state level. In Victoria, you've got a Victoria and
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Speaker 15: New South Wales two labor police ministers who have been
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Speaker 15: resoundingly weak on cracking down on anti Semitic protests. And
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Speaker 15: so really, if they're not getting the orders to take action,
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Speaker 15: well what are they going to do? They're just responding
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Speaker 15: to their commands which come from the top, and so
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Speaker 15: really the responsibility for taking action lives with our governments
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Speaker 15: at a state and federal level. But the second thing
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Speaker 15: that's happening as well is I actually think the police
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Speaker 15: are scared of these protesters. I've had policemen say to
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Speaker 15: me off the record, they are genuinely terrified of these crowds.
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Speaker 15: If you look at who's attending these protests, they are thugs.
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Speaker 15: They cover their face, many of them could be carrying weapons.
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Speaker 15: We don't know the kind of people who are waving
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Speaker 15: Hesbala flags and eulogizing Nazraala, a notorious terrorist who's been
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Speaker 15: determined to kill Jews for the last thirty years. Those
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Speaker 15: are not the kind of people that are going to
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Speaker 15: peacefully abide by police instruction. So I think they are
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Speaker 15: being given directions to essentially take the approach of appeasement
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Speaker 15: from the top, and then they are genuinely scared of
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Speaker 15: these thugs that have taken over our streets.
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Speaker 4: Well, it is it's mob rule of the moment.
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Speaker 3: The ones who are most likely to escalate and become
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Speaker 3: violent are the ones who are being appeased. I'm wondering
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Speaker 3: what's going to be happening on university campuses. Do you
47:22
Speaker 3: expect to see hostility towards Israel and Jewish students to
47:27
Speaker 3: intensify further with Israel launching these limited raids on targets.
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Speaker 4: In Lebanon, definitely.
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Speaker 15: The day after the page your attack, they called a
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Speaker 15: snap rally in support of Hasbla, seemingly, and they even
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Speaker 15: had a little graphic on their posters advertising this rally,
47:45
Speaker 15: which is a photo of the pager and it said
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Speaker 15: not a target. I mean, that is just insane mental gymnastics.
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Speaker 15: Come on, you accidentally happen to have a pager that
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Speaker 15: allowed you to communicate with the senior ranks of Hasbela.
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Speaker 4: But yeah, yeah, sure, sure, you're not.
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Speaker 15: Involved in any terrorist activity whatsoever. It is completely absurd.
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Speaker 15: But that is just the state of the left on
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Speaker 15: our university campuses. They have gotten into this insane mind
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Speaker 15: warp where they can, on the one hand, supposedly support
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Speaker 15: women's rights, supposedly support LGBT rights, but then on the
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Speaker 15: other hand they're going to protests where they are eulogizing Nazraala,
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Speaker 15: the hes Bala leader. They're supporting Iran's proxies hes bla
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Speaker 15: hamasahutis against the only liberal democracy in the Middle East.
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Speaker 15: It is a profound distortion of reality and the mental
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Speaker 15: gymnastics that must be going on in their minds right now,
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Speaker 15: it's insane.
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Speaker 3: Well, the mental gymnastics remain fascinating. And it's not just
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Speaker 3: in Australia. It's not just on university campuses. Most of
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Speaker 3: these leftists who are protesting pro trans rights, their LGBTQ
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Speaker 3: activist that would describe themselves as feminists, and yet they
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Speaker 3: stand with regimes and groups who are vehemently anti women,
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Speaker 3: vehementally anti homosexual, who punish people for being gay, and
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Speaker 3: they somehow can reconcile that in their mind and go
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Speaker 3: on with their activism.
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Speaker 4: It really is just bizarre.
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Speaker 3: But you are one of the few on university, on
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Speaker 3: university campus who calls out this insanity, and I applaud.
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Speaker 4: You for it.
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Speaker 3: Freyer, You're very brave to be doing what you're doing.
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Speaker 3: Thank you so much for your time this evening, really.
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Speaker 15: Doul Thank you, Rita.
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Speaker 3: Just before we go a correction during a discussion on
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Speaker 3: the program on September twenty sixth about a Kamala Harris
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Speaker 3: campaign video, the people who feature in the video were
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Speaker 3: described as actors with the history of donating to the Democrats.
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Speaker 3: In light of additional information which we've been made aware of,
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Speaker 3: we're happy to point out that the people involved are
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Speaker 3: not actors and not appear to be Democrat donors.
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Speaker 4: That's it from me. Up next is Newsnight h