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Jaguars Happy Hour: Wednesday, December 5 · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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  Speaker 1: It is Wednesday. This simple fit. This is Jack Bars
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  Speaker 1: Happy Hour. Jack Wars Happy Hour, always brought you by
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  Speaker 1: the Fields on the Group and now a guy who's
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  Speaker 1: favorite fragrance is chicken and waffles. JA Welcome in the
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  Speaker 1: Jaguars Happy Hour presented by the Fields Auto Group on
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  Speaker 1: this Wednesday. JP Shatterick with you. Busy show to get
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  Speaker 1: to today. Here's what's coming up. VP of Sales and
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  Speaker 1: Service Chad Johnson standing by. He'll be with us in
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  Speaker 1: just a few minutes. Mike Florio from Pro Football Talk.
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  Speaker 1: We'll get the latest from around the National Football League
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  Speaker 1: and his take and what has happened to the Jaguars
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  Speaker 1: this season. We'll get to the Titans beat with Paul Karharsky.
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  Speaker 1: He used to be a beat writer for the Tennessee
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  Speaker 1: in in Nashville. Long time with ESPN, now his own
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  Speaker 1: website and with a radio station in Nashville. We'll hear
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  Speaker 1: from Paul coming up on the Tennessee Titans. And Alex
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  Speaker 1: mar Vaz from Sirious XM Radio are good. Buddy joins
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  Speaker 1: us a little bit later as well. Busy day to day.
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  Speaker 1: The Jags are actually on an airplane right now, headed
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  Speaker 1: to Nashville, Tennessee. The injury report has been released though
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  Speaker 1: by the Tennessee Titans for this Jaguars Titans match up
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  Speaker 1: on Thursday, including two Jaguars ruled out. D J. Shark Jr.
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  Speaker 1: With the quadriceps issue out of the game, Abrey Jones
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  Speaker 1: with the shin brewis he is out. Couple of players
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  Speaker 1: questionable Cody Davis and Josh Walker, and then the guys
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  Speaker 1: at the bottom of the screen no status. They're available
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  Speaker 1: for the game, including Klais Campbell, including the Nashville area
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  Speaker 1: native Jalen Ramsey as well Trey Herndon Quentin Meeks. Cornerbacks
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  Speaker 1: should be available for this game as well, So good
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  Speaker 1: news actually in the injury department. The Jacks had walked
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  Speaker 1: throughs on Monday and Tuesday, another one today. The Monday
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  Speaker 1: and Tuesday workouts were at night. It's a banged up
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  Speaker 1: football team, of course, on a short week. Doug Marone
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  Speaker 1: earlier this week was asked about the guys who stepped
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  Speaker 1: into those injured roles, especially on the offensive line, and
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  Speaker 1: how much of a challenge that has been up front.
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  Speaker 1: I think the guys that have been I've been playing,
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  Speaker 1: that have been here before you know, take take a
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  Speaker 1: role in that um. So that's that that's been good
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  Speaker 1: as far as the players that have been going in
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  Speaker 1: you know, going in there, they're so focused on, you know,
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  Speaker 1: working hard and trying to do the right thing, um
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  Speaker 1: you know, and just getting ready for play and excited
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  Speaker 1: about the opportunity because obviously a lot of a lot
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  Speaker 1: of players, especially on that side of the ball, wouldn't
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  Speaker 1: have this opportunity. So it's an opportunity for them to show,
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  Speaker 1: you know, go out there and show what they can do.
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  Speaker 1: And you know, it's a it's a challenge, you know,
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  Speaker 1: it's it's a big challenge this week. I mean, Tennessee's
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  Speaker 1: you know, has an excellent defense. UM front seven's outstanding,
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  Speaker 1: big strong, powerful winebackers, downhill hit secondary play as well.
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  Speaker 1: You know, we're gonna have to do a good job
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  Speaker 1: up front. It would be a great challenge for those guys.
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  Speaker 1: But on the old line, you have a lot of
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  Speaker 1: familiar names on that defense whine we'll get to those
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  Speaker 1: coming up with Paul Kaharsky of the Titans beat. But
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  Speaker 1: here you have a look at what has happened on
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  Speaker 1: the offensive line this year for the Jaguars. You know,
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  Speaker 1: what's happened at left tackle or on the fourth left
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  Speaker 1: tackle the season this year. Partnell was out of the
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  Speaker 1: game some last week, came back in. He's available for
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  Speaker 1: this week. That's a good news. But it has been
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  Speaker 1: a mass unit upfront for this Jaguars football team in eighteen.
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  Speaker 1: Quarterback Cody Kessler getting a second start with the Jaguars
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  Speaker 1: on Thursday night, the tenth in his career. He's getting
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  Speaker 1: a new weapon in the backfield with him in running
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  Speaker 1: back Leonard Fournette this week, in my opinion, one of
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  Speaker 1: the best running backs the NFL. Um you know, and
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  Speaker 1: having him it was with Carlos and TJ back there. Um,
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  Speaker 1: you know, it makes my life alot easier. So it's
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  Speaker 1: gonna be exciting. Obviously don't play with Lenard yet, um,
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  Speaker 1: so we'll be out there on the field with him.
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  Speaker 1: Is gonna be exciting and you know side watching go.
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  Speaker 1: You know what happened in Buffalo for the Leonard Fournette.
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  Speaker 1: He was ejected from that football game after fighting against
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  Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills. He had a great half, that's the
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  Speaker 1: good the good thing about it. He was playing very
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  Speaker 1: well in that game in Buffalo and then came across
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  Speaker 1: the field, got into the fisticuffs, was ejected from the
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  Speaker 1: game and then suspended by the NFL. He was back,
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  Speaker 1: he spoke in the locker room this week. He's got
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  Speaker 1: a little extra rest actually going into this short week
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  Speaker 1: on Thursday night football. That's the good news. Hopefully we'll
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  Speaker 1: pay off of this Jags team. They need a big
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  Speaker 1: win on a Thursday night on the road, a place
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  Speaker 1: they have not won on the road since. The Rolling
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  Speaker 1: Stones are coming to t i a A bank Field
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  Speaker 1: in April is part of the No Filter US Tour
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  Speaker 1: twenty nineteen. The show scheduled for April twenty four, that's
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  Speaker 1: a Wednesday, the night before the first round of the
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  Speaker 1: NFL Draft. Tickets on sale Friday, November that's they're already
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  Speaker 1: on sale. They're selling very well and for more information
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  Speaker 1: visit Rolling Stones dot com or ticket Master. And we're
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  Speaker 1: joining out by Jaguars VP of Sales and Service and
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  Speaker 1: the Chief Content Officer as well, Chad Johnson. Great to
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  Speaker 1: see you man, Thanks, great to be here. It's right now,
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  Speaker 1: It is right and you know we just mentioned the
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  Speaker 1: Stones there, and you know, we know how the football
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  Speaker 1: season is going, but we know what this organization wants
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  Speaker 1: to do outside of the realm of football as well,
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  Speaker 1: with Daily's Place and all the hopefully development around the
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  Speaker 1: stadium here and everything that includes stadium shows. And there's
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  Speaker 1: not much of a bigger stadium show than the Rolling Stones,
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  Speaker 1: the greatest rock and roll band in the world. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, if you look at who were up against
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  Speaker 1: right now is to the twelve biggest cities in the country,
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  Speaker 1: the number one grossing rock and roll band in the
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  Speaker 1: world coming here in our backyard. And and you mentioned
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  Speaker 1: this is really the next step in a journey that
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  Speaker 1: started a couple of years ago with our commitment to
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  Speaker 1: bring live entertainment to downtown, specifically music content. Daily's Place
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  Speaker 1: was a big part of that, and as we established
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  Speaker 1: our reputation, UH, the industry started to look at us
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  Speaker 1: as leaders in the music space. And that next step
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  Speaker 1: was something that happened back in UH Labor Day weekend
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  Speaker 1: with the Leonard Skinner Jason L. Dean Kid Rock Show,
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  Speaker 1: where we really showed the industry how well we can perform.
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  Speaker 1: And then it doesn't get any bigger than the Rolling Stones.
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  Speaker 1: Let's let's go back to that Skinners show though, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: that was that was an all day affair. Obviously, how
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  Speaker 1: was the result? What was the bottom line? How did
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  Speaker 1: it look? For the from the Jaguars and a Bold
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  Speaker 1: Events perspective. Well, number one was the second largest show
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  Speaker 1: that Skinner has ever done in their what forty year
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  Speaker 1: in their career right, and so we knew we represented
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  Speaker 1: Jacksonville well by having a full house forty four thousand
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  Speaker 1: plus people there. But that was an idea in a
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  Speaker 1: concept we came up with, and we had to go
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  Speaker 1: out and prove to the industry that what Jacksonville may
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  Speaker 1: lack in size of the market comparable comparable to some
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  Speaker 1: of the others, we gain in passion, we gain in
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  Speaker 1: the way we mobilize, and we gain in first class
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  Speaker 1: artist experience. And those artists came here, they had an
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  Speaker 1: awesome time. They started talking and started talking about Jacksonville.
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  Speaker 1: And then here we are book in the next, uh,
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  Speaker 1: next big act in that journey. Yeah, the Rolling Stones
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  Speaker 1: coming up in April. Of course, Ticketmaster tickets around sale. Now,
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  Speaker 1: the last time The Stones were in Jacksonville was I
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  Speaker 1: think I was eight years old. It was nine. I
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  Speaker 1: mean that that don't they don't come around here every day?
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  Speaker 1: How did you guys land the Stone, All right, well
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  Speaker 1: thirty years ago, you're right. And the initial conversation when
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  Speaker 1: this started, and we had some strategic relationships with partners
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  Speaker 1: that help get us a seat at the table right are.
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  Speaker 1: Our line is give us a puncher's chance. And we
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  Speaker 1: got out there and we started talking with Stones Management
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  Speaker 1: and we said, listen, there's solutions. Whatever challenge you have,
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  Speaker 1: whatever challenge you think Jacksonville brings the table, let us
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  Speaker 1: take that challenge on. Let's take the risk away from you.
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  Speaker 1: Let's let us go out there and execute on this.
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  Speaker 1: So we put a very aggressive offer in front of
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  Speaker 1: them that offers aggressive financially, it's aggressive from the marketing
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  Speaker 1: deliverables will do, from the artist experience, will give them.
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  Speaker 1: And they came back and said, you know, we we
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  Speaker 1: weren't interested in Jacksonville at all, but what you put
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  Speaker 1: in front of us is so compelling that we're going
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  Speaker 1: to take it to the band and see what they say.
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  Speaker 1: And about two weeks later we got a call and said,
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  Speaker 1: how do you think a looks because we're coming to Jacksonville.
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  Speaker 1: It looks good? Was the answer there. That's pretty impressive,
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  Speaker 1: it really is. But that's the thing that you invest
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  Speaker 1: in it and it's not your it's not part of
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  Speaker 1: the regular Stones tour. You guys had to make the
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  Speaker 1: offer and make that part of the Stones tour. So
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  Speaker 1: in promotion, like you said, the Jaguars have the big
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  Speaker 1: hand in that, right. Yeah, Yeah, there's there's a lot
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  Speaker 1: of risk for us in this case, right, but we
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  Speaker 1: know and we believe that that risk has high reward
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  Speaker 1: new fans coming to our stadium. And what was really
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  Speaker 1: important to us JP was when you look at where
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  Speaker 1: else they're playing. The closest venue north of US is Washington,
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  Speaker 1: d C. And the closest venue west is Houston. So
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  Speaker 1: we're gonna be a regional market. I've already looked at
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  Speaker 1: the ticket buyers, obviously Atlanta, the Carolinas. We have forty
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  Speaker 1: eight states so far that have purchased tickets. So all
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  Speaker 1: of a sudden, all these people are coming down on
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  Speaker 1: Jacksonville and giving us great exposure like letting our stadium
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  Speaker 1: showcase some of the beautiful investments we've made. And that's
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  Speaker 1: why we would take that risk, because we know more
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  Speaker 1: fans that come into the stadium potentially become Jaguar fans,
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  Speaker 1: potentially come back to Daily's place, potentially helped downtown Jacksonville,
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  Speaker 1: and that was worth it for us. You got different
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  Speaker 1: things to offer those fans while they're here as well,
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  Speaker 1: bar real seating or the terrace suite or the clubs.
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  Speaker 1: There's so many different areas to enjoy a concert here. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: we're we're, as we know, one of the best fan
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  Speaker 1: experiences live for football. And that transfers over to the
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  Speaker 1: music industry, right, and it's it's about the fans and
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  Speaker 1: it's about the artists. And if our fans and artists
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  Speaker 1: come to this building and walk away happy financially, everything
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  Speaker 1: else falls into place, right and the next step falls
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  Speaker 1: in place. So um, it's fun to have venues across
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  Speaker 1: the country calling us going, how the heck did you
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  Speaker 1: guys get the Rolling Stones? We tried, we couldn't. What
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  Speaker 1: did you do right? And my answer is sorry, can't
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  Speaker 1: tell you. Tune in for the next one, that's right,
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  Speaker 1: you come seeing it in person if you want tickets
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  Speaker 1: on sale? Now, how have sales gone the first week
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  Speaker 1: or so? So? So we're thrilled with where we are today. Right.
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  Speaker 1: We knew that we'd have to really work this for
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  Speaker 1: a couple of weeks, get the other markets to understand
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  Speaker 1: what's left here in Jacksonville. So we do have seats
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  Speaker 1: available still, um, not many, but we have sold very well.
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  Speaker 1: I think over the next two weeks as we really
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  Speaker 1: market the rest of the state of Florida, the rest
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  Speaker 1: of Georgia and the Carolinas um, that should fill out
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  Speaker 1: right now. But uh, I think if I recall last time,
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  Speaker 1: we had about eight thousand seats left, that's not many
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  Speaker 1: really in the grand scheme of things. That we're selling
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  Speaker 1: thousands a day right now, so it could be, you know,
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  Speaker 1: could be just a couple more days. Favorite Stones song
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  Speaker 1: go um. You know. I I've just had this debate
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  Speaker 1: a few different times. I don't put you on the spot.
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  Speaker 1: I think that you can't always get what you want.
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  Speaker 1: I tell our staff that all the time. We've got
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  Speaker 1: to keep grinding it. And I think I've got to
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  Speaker 1: stick with it. I like that tumbling dice for me.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know why. I just like the song. I
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  Speaker 1: don't have really a reason behind it, but it's fun.
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  Speaker 1: Coming up April. Tickets on sale ticketmaster dot com through
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  Speaker 1: checkout Rolling Stones dot com for the full tour information
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  Speaker 1: as well. Quickly either you have it on the screen
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  Speaker 1: right there. These guys been going at it forever. This
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  Speaker 1: is gonna be so fun to see these guys. Their
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  Speaker 1: energy is still unlike anything I've ever seen. So it's
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  Speaker 1: not just that are they one of the best rock
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  Speaker 1: and roll bands of all time live? They are still
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  Speaker 1: one of the best bands of all all time live
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  Speaker 1: and you've just got to be here to see it.
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  Speaker 1: One more Jaguars home game next weekend. It's amazing. It's
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  Speaker 1: it's amazing how quickly this season's gone. Um. As you
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  Speaker 1: can see now, we don't take a break as soon
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  Speaker 1: as the as soon as the football season's over, returned
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  Speaker 1: the page to the next big stadium concert, next big event.
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  Speaker 1: So we're gonna keep busy all year long. Chead is
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  Speaker 1: great to see you, man, I appreciate your time. Man.
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  Speaker 1: Chad Johnson joining US VP of Sales and Service, Chief
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  Speaker 1: Content Officer for the Jacksonville Jaguars. Gotta check out that show.
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  Speaker 1: It's gonna be a blast. The Skinnered show is fantastic. Uh.
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  Speaker 1: This is the greatest rock and roll band in the world.
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  Speaker 1: The Rolling Stones coming to t i A bank Field.
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  Speaker 1: We'll come back in a moment. Mike Florio Pro Football Talk.
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  Speaker 1: We'll join us, give us some news from around the
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  Speaker 1: National Football League, and his perspective on where the Jaguars
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  Speaker 1: are at Jaguars Happy Hour on the Jaguars Digital Network.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. I think our focus is just really
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  Speaker 1: this week because it's a little bit different. It's you know,
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  Speaker 1: the practices are different. Um, there's more emphasis obviously on
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  Speaker 1: the mental part. Of it, you know, than the physical part.
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  Speaker 1: the NBC Sports Network, Mike Florio with us. Good to
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  Speaker 1: talk to you. Mike, How are you jing great, buddy?
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  Speaker 1: How are you doing well? Well? Four and eight. I
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  Speaker 1: don't know if that's well, but um, you know, snapped
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  Speaker 1: to seven game losing skid last week, so better than
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  Speaker 1: it could be, I guess, Mike, yeah, and you know,
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  Speaker 1: the last week's game. Just to reminder that the talent
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  Speaker 1: gap in the NFL not early as big as it
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  Speaker 1: used to be. And we get locked into our narratives
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  Speaker 1: about the good teams and the bad team. But even
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  Speaker 1: the very worst team in the NFL, and obviously the
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  Speaker 1: Jaguars are far far from that, but even the worst
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  Speaker 1: team can be the best team if it all lines
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  Speaker 1: up just right. And lined up just right the Jaguars
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  Speaker 1: on Sunday an again with Sunday as they say, is
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  Speaker 1: this just looking around to other teams in the league, Mike,
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  Speaker 1: as you do. Um, this team had so much energy
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  Speaker 1: and so much momentum heading into the season. They've just
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  Speaker 1: been to the FC title Game in five minutes away
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  Speaker 1: from the super Bowl, and now the four and eight.
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  Speaker 1: Where does this rank among disappointing campaigns in terms of
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  Speaker 1: the the build up to it. It's gotta be up well,
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  Speaker 1: it's got Yeah, It's one of the most disappointing that
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  Speaker 1: I can remember in recent years, just because this is
• 15:45
  Speaker 1: one of the rare teams. It was essentially bringing back
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  Speaker 1: to everyone added Andrew Norwell, but for the most part,
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  Speaker 1: it was consistent. There was continuity. That was one of
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  Speaker 1: the chief reasons giving for keeping Blake Bortles at a
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  Speaker 1: time when there were a bunch of different directions in
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  Speaker 1: which the team could have gone at quarterback, and there
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  Speaker 1: was a sense that let's just go back and do
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  Speaker 1: it again and next time maybe we get a stepper
• 16:07
  Speaker 1: two farther on the playoff tree. And you know, I've
• 16:10
  Speaker 1: been trying to think of all the different reasons why
• 16:13
  Speaker 1: this could have happened, and maybe there's a bunch of explanations.
• 16:15
  Speaker 1: I think one is that after the Patriots game back
• 16:19
  Speaker 1: in September, team goes to two and oh. I think
• 16:22
  Speaker 1: maybe there was a tendency to forget that you have
• 16:25
  Speaker 1: to show up every week and bring it every week
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: and win every game. I feel like maybe there was
• 16:30
  Speaker 1: an organizational temptation to fast forward to a rematch with
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: the Patriots in the postseason. I wonder about the physical
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: toll on the players from the Doug Barron training camp
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: last year, through sixteen regular season games, through three postseason games,
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: through another physical training camp. Does that take a toll
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: on the players? You know, was there is there an
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: organizational complacency that's set in where it's just like, hey,
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: you know what, let's just do what we've been doing,
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: and you just forget how hard it was to do
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: what they did last year and also the bigger target
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: on your back. You become a team that other teams
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: no longer take for granted. And that's a really a
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: real dynamic in the NFL. You know, just as the
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: the Eagles are getting the best from everyone they played,
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: that the Eagles become the measuring stick for where other
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: teams are. The Jaguars for years benefited from being that
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: team that people would just kind of go ask it's
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: just the Jaguars. Well not, that's not the case this year.
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: That's a measuring stick team because the Jaguars had all
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: the hype because they didn't do well last year. And
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: I think a lot of those things come together and
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: made it very difficult. And once you once you start
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: a losing streets, sometimes it's very it's very hard to
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: get out of it. And I think that's, uh, that's
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: what happened. Because the talent is there, they just weren't
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: able to execute this year. Mike Florio with US Pro
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: Football Talk. I mean, it's everybody hates excuses, but it's
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: a reason for some of this um not having success
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: running the injuries. I mean, the offense is just beat
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: up right now, Mike. They're on the fourth left tackle,
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: backup left guard, backup center. The right tackle came out
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: of the game and came back in last week. The
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: fifth tight end has been played this year in Blake Bell.
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: You know, the running back situation. You don't like excuses,
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: but that's a big part of what's happened on offense too,
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: especially when you build it around Blake portals and all
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: that breaks down, then what else can you turn to?
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: There's not much left. Yeah, And this is where the
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: challenges when it comes to that notion of injuries being
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: excuss because the natural inclination for anyone and plenty of
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: teams go through this every year. Hey there's been too
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: many injuries. What are we supposed to do? And that's
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: one of the things that sets the Patriots apart because
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: they have fully embraced this idea that there are no
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: excuses for injuries. We're not going to say, oh always does.
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: We're not going to accept anything less than the highest
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: possible performance from whoever steps in for a player who
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: is injured, and they're able to pull it off. One
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: of the things they able to pull it off is
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: they manage the salary cap in a way where they
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: have high quality death when they go to the backup.
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: The backup is pretty good and almost as good as
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: the guy who's in front of him, and it's easier
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: to pull it off then when guys get injured. But
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: that that's a that's a mentality that gets baked into
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: an organization over a period of years. And that's a
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: tough that's a tough switch for any team to flip.
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: And uh, you know, and it's it's it's new for
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: the Jaguars to even have to make excuses, right right,
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: Nobody nobody's had this in how many years since the
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: conflent coaching era, really and at a minimum in ten years,
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: had had never been an occasion where you had to
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: make an excuse the team just wasn't very good and
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: you never got to the point where you had to say, well,
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: we got a bunch of injuries. And I think that
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: that that they're processing that this year and maybe that
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: will change come next year. Mike Florio from Pro Football
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: Talk with us uh sug Moron pulls the plug on
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: Blake Bortles as the starting quarterback. And that's franchise altering stuff,
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: of course, Mike. When you have a first round draft
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: pick and he started every game in his career, you know,
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: and has has been a sturdy force at least on
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: the field. Whatever you can say about his play, but
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: he's been out there, he's been available. When you pull
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: him and you're pretty much done with him, that's a
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: franchise altering thing. And you get the feel that quarterback
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: will change around here in the offseason. What is Blake
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: Bortle's future in the league? Can will he be a backup?
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: Will he play well? I think we'll get a chance
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: to compete, to be on a depth chart somewhere, probably
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: as it back. But you know there's going to be
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: a coach out there that thinks I can fix this guy.
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: I see enough good in him that once I did
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: him in my system, I'll figure out how to put
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: guys around him and they can work, and maybe he
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: becomes even more determined to make the most out of
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: whatever second chance he has somewhere else. But he's gonna
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: have to earn it. He's gonna have to prove it.
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: Nothing's going to be given to him at best. What
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: he's gonna find is a is a team where they've
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: got a couple of guys who were competing for that
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: for that starting job. And I could see him signing
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: with a team that We've seen this a few times
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: in recent years, like the Mike glennon the Chicago Grove
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: last year, where you sign a veteran before the draft
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: and then you draft a guy in Round one and
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: that treater and just kind of holds the spot until
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: the rookies ready, and you know, that's one of the
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: reasons to do the draft before you have free agency,
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: because you don't want to end up being that quarterback.
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: It gets nuts to the wayside. But I could see
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: something like that happening with Portals, where a team that
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: clearly hasn't need a quarterback signs him as a placeholder
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: and then goes after the guy they want to try
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: to room and develop in the draft. The problem, of
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: course for the Jags is that they're stuck with sixteen
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: million against the calf no matter what happens with him
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: next year. I mean, that's a lot of money going
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: out the door for no production, no quarterback, and that's
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: what makes the decision so glaring. I remember when I
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: first caught win it was going to go that way,
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: even though there were so many other guys out there
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: the Jaguars could have explored, from Kirk Cousins, the case
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: Keenum to Teddy Bridgewater, trade for Tyrod Taylor, trade for
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: Alex Smith, draft Lamar Jackson. I still thought there was
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: a good chance to Lamar Jackson was going to be
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: a pick at twenty nine, even with Blake Portals there
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: for the next three years. Be because you've got Lamar
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: Jackson and you can groom him quietly. You can use
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: him the way that the Ravens used him, and if
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: Mortal doesn't work out, you've got a guy that you
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: can make into your quarterback. But for whatever reason, they
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: weren't ready to pull the trigger on him, and there's
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: gonna be a lot of regret about how that was handled.
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: And now this year, with fewer quarterbacks available in free
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: agency in the draft, it's you know, it's gonna be
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: uh time to move on. And I think it makes
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: it even more compelling for them to find a younger,
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: cheaper guy through the draft because of that money is
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: gonna get allocated to Blake Bortles. Moving forward, Mike, last
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: few minutes with you here. We appreciate your time today.
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: Let's touch around the NFL, the domestic violence issues popping
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: up the last couple of weeks. Ruben Foster arrested the
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: team hotel down in Tampa a couple of weeks ago,
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: cut and then claimed by the Redskins. Uh, we know
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: all what all happened there. Of course, Kareem hunting video
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: came out and then he's cut by the Kansas City Chiefs.
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: That is a busy week from anyone's standards. Let's start
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: off with the Foster thing and and the Redskins claiming him.
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: Obviously there was a huge uproar about that. What's your view, Well,
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: I think what Washington thought they could do is called
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: this Don Foster, who's not going to play this year,
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: will be available at some point in twenty nineteen. And
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: they figured, hey, you know what, who's gonna give us
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: a hard time for this. It's not like he's going
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: to be on the field. We know he's not going
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: to be on the field, will pay him not to play,
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: and we'll have him available to us in twenty nineteen.
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: And I just don't think they had a plan for
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: the backlash that they got, because everything they did after
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: that it felt like it made it worse instead of better.
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: And I think that's one of the big reasons Kareem
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: Hunt wasn't claimed. After people saw what Washington experience, they decided,
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: you know what, it's not worth putting ourselves in this
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: position where we're gonna suffer through a week of bad
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: pr for a guy who can't play for us until
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: who knows when. In teen or maybe not even until Yeah,
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: that's the question I had next is will either one
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: of these guys play in the league again. I think
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: Foster will be back at some point next year, and
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: I think Hunt, unless the NFL decided to, would pose
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: a very very serious and stern punishment on Hunt based
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: on the February incident that was on video. There's a
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: June incident that's been reported, the league's investigating. There's a
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: January incident that popped up earlier this week. I mean,
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: if they really want to stack together these punishments, they
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: could knock him out for all of twenty nineteen and
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: maybe even into twenty twenty. But this guy is ascending.
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: He left the league in rushing as a rookie, and
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: there will be a team that will give the guy
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: a second chance. Mikel Vick got a second chance. I
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: never thought he'd be back in the NFL after the
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: things he admitted to doing and after going to prison
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: for two years. Hunt's not even gonna get arrested for
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: any of the things he did. So you'll see that.
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: You'll see him get a second chance somewhere, and somebody's
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: gonna end up with a pretty good player. Who's going
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: to be motivated to show that that number one, he's
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: gotten his life together, and number two that he can
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: still get it done and that he can earn the
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: kind of money that everybody thought he was gonna get.
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: In Kansas City, Mike Florio with US Pro Football Talk,
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: how does TMZ get all these videos ahead of the
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: league and the authority mine they paid for him and
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: the NFL is not inclined to do it. I posted
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: something earlier today explaining that the NFL is very leary
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: about trying to beat TMZ at its own game, because
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: you know, t m z's immediate outlet, and even though
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: the NFL operates its own in house pidia outlet, it
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: wouldn't be trying to get it for the purposes of media.
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: They'd be trying to get it to the purposes of
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: internal discipline. So if the hotel whose employee sells that
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: video to the NFL decides to sue that employee in
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: the NFL gets in the middle of it, they can't say, well,
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: we have we you know, we have a legal privilege
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: where we don't have to tell you who gave us this.
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: And I think they're very concerned about getting themselves some
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: ugly messages if they start doing what TMZ does. Plus
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: there's an unseemly quality to this idea of paying for
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: for videos. So what they need to do is try
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: harder to get the video that they're operating in a
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: in a scenario where TMZ will pay, the NFL won't.
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: And I think that they need to be relentless in
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: their efforts to try to get law enforcement to demand
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: the video, law enforcement to share the video. That was
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: the problem in Cleveland. The hotel would only get the
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: video to law enforcement, and law enforcement wouldn't ask for it.
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: And I'd love to see the paper trail between the
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: League office and law enforcement in Cleveland as to how
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: aggressively the NFL tried to get that video, because I
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: think they need to do everything they can. They need
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: to never let it go and try and try and try.
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: Once into that videos there, they gotta do everything they
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: can't short of buying it to get that video. Hey,
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: what's uh you gonna watch Thursday night? And who you
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: got Titans or Jays? Well, you know, I never know
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: which Titans team is going to show up. Nobody does,
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: and and and the Titans at six and six you know,
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: we were talking earlier today on TFT Live. Christens and
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: I were going through all the six six teams to
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: figure out which one's going to find the gas pedal,
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: because every year it seems like there's a team that
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: gets hot and runs the table and carries that momentum
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: into the postseason. And it could be the because their
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: schedule is favorable, but every time they get a big
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: win or two, they follow it up with an ugly
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: loss or two. So I really don't know which way
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: this one's gonna go. Short week dynamic changes everything. I
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: probably air on the side of the home team, but
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: error is the key word, because we saw the Jaguars
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: beating the Colts on Sunday, and if they can carry
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: that bote in the Thursday night and the the Jaguars can
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: run into two in a row, I mean, this is
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: really a game where I have no idea how it's
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: going to play out, which makes it, you know, all
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: the more reason to watch. Well, the way the Jags
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: offense is struggling these days. It took a shutout to
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: get that done last week against the Colts, so we'll
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: see if the Jags defense is up to the task again. Tomorrow. Hey, Mike,
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: it's great to talk to you. We really appreciate your time. Man,
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: Have a good day, all right, Jake Buddy Mike Florio
• 27:41
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• 27:44
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• 27:47
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  Speaker 1: a time. And you know, he's always played well. He's
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  Speaker 1: one of the better inside players in the league. I mean,
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: you know, he's up there when you're mentioning, you know,
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: like Aaron Donaldson, players like that that play inside. He's
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: right up there with him. He's uh. I have a
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: lot of respectful him. You know, their whole defense. So
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: you know, all those guys play extremely hard. They really do.
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: I mean, their efforts outstanding. Um, you know, and we
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: have not played well against that. That's a fact. Head
• 30:35
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  Speaker 1: And it's a Titans team. As Mike Florio just said,
• 31:22
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• 31:47
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• 31:50
  Speaker 1: Which which way? Will that be? The final month? Paul? Yeah,
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: I wish I knew. Um, you know, last year at
• 31:58
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• 32:00
  Speaker 1: of bad stuff was ahead. Um, they finished nine and seven.
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: Only after that last week win over the Jags, when
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: the Jags already had things sealed up, so it's gonna
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: be a harder track, uh this time around. Winnable games obviously,
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: Jags are not what most of us expected. UM. Giants
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: and Washington have had before season finale at home against
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: the Colts, which could could be a huge game, could
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: be a playoff game if the Titans take care of
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: things between now and then. But Titan has been very
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: up and down, very unpredictable, often playing to the level
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: of the competition. UM, so it's it's really hard to know.
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: And coming off a game where you know, they did
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: what they had to do and beating the Jets, but um,
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: I really didn't look like they were up to the
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: task for for three quarters of that game. Really. Uh,
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: it was disappointing. So it's hard to know exactly what
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: the what they're gonna be. Um, they're not as talented
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: as as we thought. The loss at Delaney Walker on
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: opening day really really hurt them. And UM, you know,
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: Mike Vrabel and his staff UM, which is a lot
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: of newcomers still kind of sorting through things. Speaking of Rabel, Paul,
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: you know you're with him on a day to day
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: basis there on the beat. UM compare him to some
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: of the Titans coaches in the past, Malarkey and wizzen
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: Hunt and Munshack and Fisher. I mean, how does he
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: compare to deal with what's his personality? How has he
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: been so far in his first year? Well, I mean,
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: I think he's a really smart guy. I think sometimes um,
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: maybe with some of the aggressive calls he's made. Going
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: for a two point conversion at the end of the
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: Chargers game in London, Uh, to play winner loss right
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: there at the end, when it had taken the Titans
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: uh so much energy to get in the end zone
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: for the touchdown. I thought they had taken momentum in
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: that game and that they'd need more than you know,
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: they had needs a lot more than one try to
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: get in for the touchdown. I thought it was over aggressive. Um.
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: Uh they tried a fullback dive with with Luke stock
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: or a tight end who never carried the ball in
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: the NFL or in college. Um a couple of weeks
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: ago and a big turning point at Houston. Um, sometimes
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: it seems a little bit too much. Um, a player
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: still with wanting to go for it in the way
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: that a player might We didn't play that long ago.
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: I mean he was on the field not that long ago. UM,
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: But I think I think he's smart. Like he took
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: intentionally took a twelve menu on the field penalty the
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: other day on the second two against the Jets. That
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: kind of stop the clock bought the Titans an extra
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: time out, gave them a reset because they knew the
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: Jets were gould to convert a second and two, but
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: gave them a new kind of four minute defense reset.
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: And um on a new first new first down there
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: and helped set the Titans up for a stop, get
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: the ball back, drive down, and you know they were
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: in position to tie it with the field goal or
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: win it with touchdown, and they wanted with the touchdown.
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: He does some smart things like that. I think he's
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: got a real feel for for what players need in
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: terms of rest um and and when um and I
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: think he's a comer, but I think this season maybe
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: he is a little harder than he and and and
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: UH general manager who hired him, John Robinson expected UM
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: and I think they'll know full well at the end
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: of the season whether they get in or not. Um
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: just the work that's ahead of them to kind of
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: complete the transition into these schemes and uh, and to
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: get things going in a better direction a little faster.
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• 36:07
  Speaker 1: guy who's taken a lot of hits this year. That's
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: one thing. He runs around a good bit. We know that.
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: Um of those sacks and the quarterback hits? Is it?
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: Is it? Line issues? Isn't his style of play? Can
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: he overcome that? What? What has what has been the
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: reason for him getting just hit a lot this year?
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: What's the deal? Well, it's line issues first and foremost. Um,
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: you know, knock on wood for them. He's done a
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: pretty good job surviving it. I mean, he got his
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: elbow knocked pretty good in the season opener and um,
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: and then dealt with you know, kind of weird nerve
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: stuff like a fun a prolonged funnybone injury where he
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: had some tingling that that kind of reduced his feeling
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: in his hand and uh and left him with some
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: tinglingness in his hand that was an issue for a while.
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: He overcame that and uh, you know it's been dinged
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: once since then. But he's done a better job staying
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: healthy than you might expect based on how much he's
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: been hit. He's just not uh, not doing well enough
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: throwing the ball away and get getting himself out of trouble.
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: There's some metrics that say generally gets rid of the
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: ball quickly, but he's not getting rid of it quickly enough.
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: And some of those sacks circumstances. Now sometimes I mean
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: people are getting blown up and uh, and he's hit
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: very quickly, but I think even in some of those circumstances,
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: he should see stuff coming. And uh, you know, he's
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: got some circumstances where he's getting ah, he's creating big
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: losses where he could have smaller losses and uh and
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: it's a problem there there and second and long and
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: third and long and far too often and uh and
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: not able to battle out of that stuff. And the
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: Jaguars obviously came to life against Andrew luck putting the
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: Colts in some of those situations. So they're gonna need
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: to do far better. And they'd certainly like to see
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: the Jaguars from previous weeks and not from last week
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: Tomorrow night. Yeah, that that's the recipe for the Jaguars
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: right now, they have to nearly pitch a shutout the
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: way the Jags offense is set up and is playing
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: these days, and I'm not sure if that can happen
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: again tomorrow night. A couple of top ten defense speaking
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: of the Jags defense, the Titans defense the top ten
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: unit as well, familiar names Casey, Iraqpo Wood you admired
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: all the rest. I mean, where do these guys stand?
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: Why are they ranking so highly? And it's got a
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: start up front, right with with Casey, he's still stud.
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: He's a stud, but he didn't have much help alongside him.
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: The rest of the defensive line hasn't really done much.
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: And those outside guys you mentioned Racpo. He had a
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: good game last week, but he's looked old this year.
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: He's in the last year of his contract. Derek Morgan's
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: banged up, might not play. He's in the last year
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: his contract. Has been banged up a lot this year
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: and hasn't done much. Uh. The interiors really provided the rush.
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: Wesley Woodyard H J. Brown, the young inside linebacker. He's
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: more of a coverage guy, but has found a way
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: um to get in the backfield, particularly on blitz is.
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: It's a good scoring defense first and foremost. It was
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: first for a while before it got lit up and
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: back to back weeks by the Colts, um and the Texans.
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: Good scoring defense, still, good red zone defense, very good
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: at making people kick field goals and buckling down. But
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: not a lot of good individual numbers, not a lot
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: of sacks um and not a lot of turnovers. It's
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: been been uh too long since. Uh. I mean Malcolm
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: Butler finished this game off this week with an interception,
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: but uh uh an interception to staunch the bleeding in
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: the middle of the game hasn't come in a long time.
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: Haven't seen the defense in the end zone in a
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: long time. Um, they really could help out the offense
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: even a bit more. But it's a it's a defensive
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: football team for sure. Every time I think it's going
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: to be an offensive football team and don't turn out
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: that way. No, it doesn't. And we we saw that
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: certainly at the end of the regular season last year.
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: A couple of interceptions I buyed in that game, one
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: to seal it and then won the middle of the
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: football game as well off Blake Portals. Alright, so Thursday
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: night football is the city ready. They're excited about the
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: Titans still are they kind of on the on the
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: fence here? Uh? Well, I wrote this week, Um, you know,
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: this team still hasn't grabbed this town. Obviously, the two
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: nine and seven seasons were way better than the Ken
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: wizzen Hunt era where they you know, had two and
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: three wins and consecutive seasons, and um, he got fired
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: in the middle of one of those. Uh last year
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: nine and seven and went to the playoffs. But there
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: was a real disconnect between the team and the town
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: lugely over the playing style. Uh and Malarkey's future was
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: a big storyline there still and it hasn't connected much better.
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: This new final offense was supposed to grab people scored
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: ten points less at this stage of the season than
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: Malarkey's archaic offense. So I don't know how how how
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: well it's gonna go tomorrow in terms of the tenants.
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: It's cold here and I think people are frustrated with
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: this team. Uh. Still holding out hope obviously that that
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: it will produce a playoff birth, but there's no love
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: affair going on right now. People are frustrated that they
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: haven't turned the corner and figured things out. Malarkey's offense
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: was archaic. That was exotic smash mouth. Paul. I don't
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: know what you're talking about. It was exotic arcade. Paul.
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: It's uh. It's good to talk to you, but it's
• 41:29
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• 41:31
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• 41:34
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• 41:46
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• 44:34
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• 44:37
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• 44:52
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• 44:55
  Speaker 1: jury's out, alex Um. The Jags have some issues right now,
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: alex certainly on the offensive side. They let the offensive
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: coordinator go. They've benched the franchise quarterback and that's never
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: a good sign for the final month of the season
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: and then this offseason coming ahead. There's a lot of
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: change of float down here in Jacksonville. Yeah, that's what
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: it's looking like. And listen, you know, things unfortunately for
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: Nate Hacket, the guy very creative at times with this
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: game plan, and you know, had made some strides with
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: Blake Portals and where I don't want to sit here
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: and beat up on Blake because I actually like Blake Portals,
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: but as a person he's always been gracious to me.
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: But as a quarterback, you know, sometimes you know, in
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: this league, you've got to be able to raise the
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: level of the play around you. And unfortunately for Blake,
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: it just wasn't happening. And of course he pays a
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: heavy price in eate Hacket pays a heavy price, and
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: it just raises some questions. So what is the future
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: at quarterback for the Jacksonville Jaguars, And you know, and
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: it's so weird, right because each time you win, you
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: feel better about it and you're trying to get the
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: program to finish strong in December. But it also moves
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: you away from one of those high draft picks where
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: you may be able to get a quarterback. And we
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: look at some of the teams that are struggling in
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: the NFL right now, and they may need quarterbacks. So
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: I think that's one of the tough parts about this,
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: you know, I think it really starts right there, JP
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: just trying to figure out who's going to be under center.
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: I'm not sure if Scott Milanovitch is the long term
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: answer at offensive coordinator, but we'll let him call the
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: plays right now. See where that goes. But I think
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: everything really starts there, and of course a return to
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: health because this wasn't Alan Blake. You've had Leonard for
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: needed in onto the lineup throughout the year, whether it's
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: Leonard screwing up or its injuries. You've had four off
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: starting offensive lineman, go On I r And Marquis Lee
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: one of the underrated absences for the Jacksonville Jaguars. He
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: developed into a pretty darn good receiver. He hasn't been
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: playing all years since getting hurt, I think and we
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: want Yeah, that's a great point, Alex. The Marquis sleeping.
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: It was actually the preseason against the Falcons he got
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: rocked and h He's his recovery continues, and of course
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: they signed him to a longer deal before this season.
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: He's not available and it's not even yet. Certainly his
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: speed and everything in the in the past game down
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: the field to get vertical, but he's big in the
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: run game now, they'll they'll be the first to tell
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: you the guy can block too, absolutely if you're right
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: about that, and one of the underrated things about him.
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: And it's been an interesting year for Dante Moncrief as well.
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: I know it was a one year. Let's see how
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: this Ghoest type deal, you know, nine million dollar salary.
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: It was solid. You know, he was hoping to become
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: the next Alshon. Jeffrey Right and al Shan signed almost
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: the exact same numbers with the Philadelphia Eagles and they
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: were able to strike the long term to deal with
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: him during the season. And al Shan has been great
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: for the Eagles. So here's something else for the Jacks
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: to consider, because they've got so much money now up
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: against the salary cap, and they understood that this was
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: a team that was built to peak in eighteen. Some
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: familiar faces that that you've seen in Jackson go for
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: a while, probably won't be back next year as his
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: team retools and and just tries to keep having the
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: success in the draft that it's been that it has been,
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: because while the free agent signings have helped the Jacks
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: get to be two thousand, seventeen AFC Championship Game, it's
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: really the draft that to me has served as the
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: backbone of so much of the positive things that have
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: happened on Florida's first goes Alex Marvez with a serious
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: XM Radio Leonard for that is back. He has missed
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: ten of twenty eight pass games in his career. Either
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: the injury or suspension or the team holding him off
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: to the side, whichever way you want to look at it,
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: is he a long term franchise back in this league?
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: Can he be that kind of guy? Count? Well, he
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: can be, what with more consistency. I mean, the nice
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: part of the Jack is, look at you're in for
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: a penning, You're in for a pound, right, And we
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: got two more years to try to determine this. When
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: I when I was in you know, at your Jack
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: training camp in mid August, you know, nice, nice, cool,
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: breezy degree day in the middle of the month. Um,
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: you know, Leonard Fournette looked great, right, and you know,
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: he looked like he had lost some weight. He spoke
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: with a guy with a lot more confidence than he
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: did in his rookie season. And I'm not you know,
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: that's not disparaging his rookie season. But I'm just trying
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: to give you a snapshot from one year to the
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: next about what I saw in Leonard Fornett. And I
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: was really optimistic that he had turned the corner. You know,
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: remember in his rookie season he had been I think
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: he missed a meeting or something JP, I forget what
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: it was, but team photos. I mean, yeah, so you
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: know that sort of steff he just can't do at
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: this level. And you know, for Leonard, it's always been
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: so easy for him, right and be one of the
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: great high school running backs you've ever seen, one of
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: the great college running backs that you had seen. And
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: he gets to the NFL and it's it's a different animal.
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: You have to be disciplined, you have to watch your weight.
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: I mean you're so you know, as the number four
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: overall picking the draft, there's responsibilities that come with that,
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: and unfortunately at times Leonard has not embraced that list.
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: And the guy got hurt hamstring injury. Fortunately doesn't look
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: like it's a chronic thing, you know ala Shawn Lee.
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: But I think the jury still I don't whether this
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: is gonna work out for him, you know, over the
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: long haul, he's got two years to prove it and
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: try to earn that big money deal. I know they
• 49:29
  Speaker 1: can redo is do after year three out of Tide Gurley,
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: but I don't think that's happening. I think it's gonna
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: say two solid years of Leonard Burnett showing that he's
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: someone that you can trust. Otherwise I wouldn't be surprised
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: if the jackson move on, Alex, What do you make
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: of the leadership structure here in Jacksonville where a couple
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: of seasons into it now Tom Coughlin at the top,
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: Dave calledwell the GM, Doug Marone the head coach, Tony
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: Con is involved in there, of course as Parcelona or
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: the team, and shot Con the owner. It's um, you
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: don't see that type of you know, structure. I guess
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: around the league a lot. What did you make the
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: first couple of years of this? I think it's fine.
• 50:04
  Speaker 1: I don't think the leadership structure is that you know
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: that the structure of it itself is not the problem
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: that the problem is like portals decision is there's a
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: big one. I mean for this team, you know that
• 50:13
  Speaker 1: was a huge one. I mean, look and endless that
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: every team is gonna have hits, every team is gonna
• 50:17
  Speaker 1: have some misses, right, I mean, look, Aaron Coleban to
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: me's a heck of a corner. But there's only so
• 50:21
  Speaker 1: many players are going to be able to resign, right,
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: And I'm not sure if the nickel you know, the Nickel.
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: Cornerback play has been up to snuff, and I know
• 50:27
  Speaker 1: there's been some injuries. Listen, very Church that didn't want
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: expect the wheels to fall off on him as quickly
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: as they did. But fortunately you've got a nice replacement
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: in Richardson, the rookie who started last week and had
• 50:37
  Speaker 1: a big game, I know, a big sack against the Colts.
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: So there's something that's promising there. I don't think the
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: structure of this team is an issue. In fact, I
• 50:44
  Speaker 1: think it's actually a positive for this team because there
• 50:47
  Speaker 1: are defined roles. Everybody knows what their responsibility is. Do
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: your job, JP, and you'll be fine. Just like when
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: John oshan boss is you around. As long as you
• 50:55
  Speaker 1: respect him, you're doing great. Yeah, that's just like, that's
• 50:59
  Speaker 1: just Alex straight of Um, there have been changes in
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: the league already though. Mike McCarthy's out in Green Bay,
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: Hugh Jackson is out in Cleveland. Um, what was the
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: how about the McCarthy when let's start with that one?
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: How surprising mid season was that that was when he
• 51:18
  Speaker 1: kind of felt coming though the way things were going
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: apart there, Yeah, things were going that way. But listen,
• 51:23
  Speaker 1: you know, for the for the Packers. What was the
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: endgame on all this? I mean, you you just lost
• 51:28
  Speaker 1: to the Arizona Cardinals and that is, you know, probably
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: the worst team in football, just just based upon the
• 51:33
  Speaker 1: way they played, every statistical ranking, you name it. You're
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: playing at home December football lambeau Field, knowing that you
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: probably need to win out to make the playoffs, and
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: you just stink. And I think that that was one
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: of those indications. I don't want to say that Mike
• 51:46
  Speaker 1: lost the team because I'm not there and I don't
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: you know, I'm not there every day. I don't think
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: that's fair to say. But it was clear that that
• 51:52
  Speaker 1: this was just unacceptable to management. So why waste anybody's time,
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: you know, why continue to see the way it was going? So,
• 51:58
  Speaker 1: you know, this gives the Packers and let's and they
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: can start talking to college coaches now, they can start
• 52:03
  Speaker 1: talking to people outside the league right now, and they're
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: they're in a war right here with the Cleveland Browns
• 52:07
  Speaker 1: for a head coach, and there's gonna be others that
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: end up making changes. You would figure the New York
• 52:11
  Speaker 1: Jets going to be a team that's probably moving on
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: from Todd Bowls as well, and you know a couple
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: of others. So and really, this year, there isn't that
• 52:18
  Speaker 1: hot head coaching candidate. You know what I mean When
• 52:20
  Speaker 1: you look, everyone's trying to find the young, hot shot
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: offensive coordinator, that up and coming guy. Who is it?
• 52:25
  Speaker 1: I mean John D. Philippo in Minnesota. I mean JP,
• 52:27
  Speaker 1: he hasn't heard of running the football. The Vikings have
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: the most out of skew offense of any team in
• 52:32
  Speaker 1: the NFL. They passed sixty at the top. I mean, yeah,
• 52:36
  Speaker 1: that's brutal, brother. I mean, you've got to be able
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: to have some sort of running game to complement it.
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: And what happens sometimes is you get these guys, the
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: Jim Bob Couts of the world that you know him,
• 52:45
  Speaker 1: that John D. Filippo, and you know, they forget that
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: you have to have balance and you have to be
• 52:49
  Speaker 1: able to keep teams off guard because they love designing
• 52:52
  Speaker 1: pretty past plays and I understand it. And everyone's seeing
• 52:54
  Speaker 1: the success of Sean McVeigh and Matt Neggie in Chicago.
• 52:57
  Speaker 1: You know they say, Okay, well we're gonna get the
• 52:59
  Speaker 1: hot shot offensive human with a veteran defensive guy and
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: we'll go from there. Well, there aren't too many hot shot,
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: offensive guys out there that are really floating people's VOTs.
• 53:07
  Speaker 1: So I think for the Packers is just allowed them
• 53:09
  Speaker 1: to move on from here. Allow Mike McCarthy too, since
• 53:11
  Speaker 1: he's going to be in high demand that I think
• 53:13
  Speaker 1: he will get another shot right away to be able
• 53:15
  Speaker 1: to prepare for what his next step is. It really
• 53:17
  Speaker 1: works best for rival involved. Trust me, Mike didn't want
• 53:19
  Speaker 1: to get fired. It isn't the way he wanted to
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: go out in Green Bay. He wanted to try to
• 53:23
  Speaker 1: win out, get into the postseason. But the reality is
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: they were going to be moving on, So why not
• 53:27
  Speaker 1: just go from there? What's the better job green Bay
• 53:29
  Speaker 1: with four or five more years of a quarterback or
• 53:32
  Speaker 1: an up and coming Brown's franchise. You gotta live in Cleveland, right,
• 53:37
  Speaker 1: I mean that's sort of right there, JP. I just
• 53:40
  Speaker 1: sort of sort of settled that. I mean, look, I
• 53:42
  Speaker 1: think when you have John Dorsey, a guy who his
• 53:44
  Speaker 1: track record speaks for itself as far as personnel goes,
• 53:47
  Speaker 1: and building a winning roster, I think that's a really
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: appealing job. Green Bay's got some work. I don't think
• 53:51
  Speaker 1: it's as far off as people think, but you know,
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: I do think that there's some work ahead and listen
• 53:56
  Speaker 1: to I mean, what are you gonna run with Aaron Rodgers?
• 53:58
  Speaker 1: I just feel like the fense, you know, And I
• 54:01
  Speaker 1: hope Mike just takes a look back and not take
• 54:03
  Speaker 1: it personally or anything like that, but takes a look
• 54:05
  Speaker 1: at what he's been doing on the offensive side of
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: the football and having Aaron Rodgers stand back there and
• 54:10
  Speaker 1: waiting for these plays to develop. I mean, the NFL
• 54:12
  Speaker 1: has become a short passing league, JP. We've seen offense
• 54:15
  Speaker 1: and passing we've never seen before in the NFL. Because
• 54:18
  Speaker 1: of the high completion passes, quarterbacks are getting the football
• 54:20
  Speaker 1: out of their hands quicker than ever. It's the exact
• 54:23
  Speaker 1: opposite in Green Bay. It seems almost archaic with the
• 54:26
  Speaker 1: way that they're doing their business. But I will tell
• 54:27
  Speaker 1: you this, based upon the draft this year, not only
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: does John Dorsey deserve high mark, but Brian gutten Coust,
• 54:32
  Speaker 1: the general manager. In his first year there, JP, he
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: did a fantastic job finding some nice talent at wide receiver,
• 54:38
  Speaker 1: some talented linebacker I mean, listen, and retooling that secondary.
• 54:41
  Speaker 1: I think ultimately these guys are gonna be pretty good.
• 54:43
  Speaker 1: What's interesting about Green Bay as well. Mike Petton I
• 54:45
  Speaker 1: think done a solid job as defensive coordinator there. So
• 54:49
  Speaker 1: does green Bay look for that young, hot shot offensive
• 54:51
  Speaker 1: coach and then say, okay, we're good with Mike Petton
• 54:54
  Speaker 1: will roll from there. And the same thing with Cleveland
• 54:56
  Speaker 1: Greg Williams. I don't think he's going to be the
• 54:58
  Speaker 1: head coach there, but to the Browns Entie Faim with
• 55:00
  Speaker 1: a Vic Bangio a three million plus dollar a year
• 55:02
  Speaker 1: offer to try to keep him in the fold. So
• 55:04
  Speaker 1: I think it's interesting. I think both teams are looking
• 55:07
  Speaker 1: for the same thing. It'll be interesting to see how
• 55:09
  Speaker 1: that one plays out. Alex Marvez with us last couple
• 55:12
  Speaker 1: of minutes with you here, Alex, you still have the
• 55:13
  Speaker 1: Hall of Fame vote right, I'm now a permanent voter.
• 55:17
  Speaker 1: By the way, you're in, You're in the room. I
• 55:21
  Speaker 1: like that. That congratulations. I thought I thought voting for
• 55:23
  Speaker 1: the Pro Wrestling Observer Hall of Fame. It was like
• 55:25
  Speaker 1: my peak, that's what Tony and I thought. But now
• 55:27
  Speaker 1: it's not, and it's just you know, really, I'm just
• 55:29
  Speaker 1: now I got this not bad. It was just a
• 55:31
  Speaker 1: stepping zone to get you here, um, Tony Baselli is
• 55:35
  Speaker 1: a semifinalist again, he was in the room last year.
• 55:39
  Speaker 1: What are the odds here is you have a good,
• 55:41
  Speaker 1: a real shot to get in this year. Well, let's
• 55:44
  Speaker 1: take a look at Here's how I like to look
• 55:46
  Speaker 1: at this sort of thing. Right, how many slots are
• 55:47
  Speaker 1: we talking about? Right now? We have five modern error
• 55:50
  Speaker 1: candidates who are set to get into the Pro Football
• 55:53
  Speaker 1: Hall of Fame. So who do we figure gets in
• 55:55
  Speaker 1: on the first ballot? Tony Gonzalez? And it was okay, right,
• 55:57
  Speaker 1: So you figure Tony gets what are those flops the
• 56:00
  Speaker 1: figure Ed Reid? And Ed Reid gets one of those slots,
• 56:02
  Speaker 1: and then I think there's gonna be a strong push
• 56:04
  Speaker 1: for Champ Bailey to get one of those spots. So
• 56:07
  Speaker 1: what does that leave us? That leaves us to Hall
• 56:09
  Speaker 1: of Fame spots. And that's where the Joscelyn begins, so
• 56:13
  Speaker 1: to speak, to try to get people into the Hall
• 56:14
  Speaker 1: of Fame. I can tell you without breaking any confidences
• 56:17
  Speaker 1: or Hall of Fame rules. In my eyes, Isaac Bruce's
• 56:20
  Speaker 1: candidacy really got help last year because of the comparisons
• 56:25
  Speaker 1: between Tara Owens you know, and other great wide receivers.
• 56:28
  Speaker 1: I think that it really helped Isaac and I think
• 56:31
  Speaker 1: voters may look come into this Hall of Fame class
• 56:33
  Speaker 1: looking at him differently maybe than they did in the past,
• 56:36
  Speaker 1: because his body of work is so impressive and it
• 56:38
  Speaker 1: wasn't just the greatest show on turf. This guy was
• 56:40
  Speaker 1: doing some great things well before that. I mean, receiving
• 56:44
  Speaker 1: yards in a second NFL season was absolutely ridiculous, you know.
• 56:47
  Speaker 1: And if we're comparing apples to apples, and if you're
• 56:50
  Speaker 1: one of these Hall of Fame voters, it says, why
• 56:51
  Speaker 1: I don't want to vote for five dbs to get in.
• 56:53
  Speaker 1: I'm going to vote one at each position. Well, as
• 56:56
  Speaker 1: Tony Boselli a better candidate than Thief Hutchinson, As Tony
• 56:59
  Speaker 1: Boselli a better handidate than Kevin Mawai, And is he
• 57:01
  Speaker 1: a better candidate than Alan Fantica, you know, and all
• 57:04
  Speaker 1: of these guys now are starting to get to be
• 57:06
  Speaker 1: multiple times in the room as offensive line candidate. I
• 57:09
  Speaker 1: think Tony during his heyday was an incredible player. You know.
• 57:12
  Speaker 1: Part of the problem he has that Terrell Davis was
• 57:14
  Speaker 1: able to overcome is that t D You you saw
• 57:17
  Speaker 1: Terrell Davis, it was tangible to watch him run with
• 57:19
  Speaker 1: the football right and carry it, and he was an
• 57:21
  Speaker 1: offensive superstar and a Super Bowl m v P, all
• 57:24
  Speaker 1: of those things. With Tony Vasselli, he blocks. I mean,
• 57:26
  Speaker 1: you know what I saying, it's it's not the sexiest
• 57:28
  Speaker 1: thing in the world. So he's got to overcome the
• 57:30
  Speaker 1: fact that he had such a short injury play career.
• 57:32
  Speaker 1: But when he was on there was nobody better. And
• 57:34
  Speaker 1: I think that's the hope for Tony Boselli and whoever
• 57:37
  Speaker 1: the presenter is has to be able to stress this
• 57:39
  Speaker 1: in JP just behind the scenes thing here on this
• 57:41
  Speaker 1: to me when I go into the meeting, I know
• 57:44
  Speaker 1: that the guy is a great player. You don't have
• 57:45
  Speaker 1: to tell me how great he is. He's obviously one
• 57:47
  Speaker 1: of the final fiftine. I just want to have answered
• 57:50
  Speaker 1: why he shouldn't be in the Hall of Fame. I
• 57:52
  Speaker 1: want you to be able to be prepared to tell
• 57:54
  Speaker 1: me all of the reasons why he shouldn't be there
• 57:56
  Speaker 1: have good defense mechanisms for him to be honest to do.
• 57:59
  Speaker 1: I think that's what cost of Parcels getting in the
• 58:01
  Speaker 1: first time people say, well I didn't Bill get in.
• 58:03
  Speaker 1: I'll be honest with you. I thought the presentation was lacking,
• 58:05
  Speaker 1: and there were some questions about Bill that lingered. He
• 58:08
  Speaker 1: finally got in. I mean, trust me, and he's completely worthy.
• 58:10
  Speaker 1: But I just think the presentation matters as well. That's
• 58:13
  Speaker 1: interesting thoughts. I mean, and not a lot of people
• 58:15
  Speaker 1: get an insight into that room. I know you guys
• 58:17
  Speaker 1: are pretty quiet about all the tactics and everything that
• 58:20
  Speaker 1: happens in there. But that's an interesting take. It is
• 58:24
  Speaker 1: each city's voter has to present. Isn't that how it works? Correct?
• 58:29
  Speaker 1: And you know, but I will say this though, sometimes
• 58:31
  Speaker 1: as a presenter you can get a little bit of help.
• 58:33
  Speaker 1: So you know, that's where like some others can come
• 58:35
  Speaker 1: in and you can reach out and you can talk
• 58:37
  Speaker 1: to some at large voters. You can talk to people
• 58:40
  Speaker 1: that support the candidacy and have them try to help.
• 58:43
  Speaker 1: I mean, there's different ways you can present. I mean
• 58:45
  Speaker 1: I've had you know, I'll give you an example. Jeff Legwald. Uh,
• 58:48
  Speaker 1: you know ESPN Denver did an incredible job presenting you
• 58:51
  Speaker 1: know Floyd Little. I mean, you know, JP, A lot
• 58:54
  Speaker 1: of people wouldn't know Floyd Little. Well. The Broncos were
• 58:56
  Speaker 1: terrible in the sixties. I mean this team didn't even
• 58:58
  Speaker 1: make the playoffs for the first time until the seventies,
• 59:01
  Speaker 1: let alone have a winning record. They were like the
• 59:02
  Speaker 1: New Orleans Saints to the sixties in the NFL. Jeff
• 59:06
  Speaker 1: went back and watched all the film and he marked
• 59:08
  Speaker 1: down every time Floyd Little was able to turn getting
• 59:10
  Speaker 1: tackled at the backfield until like a one to three
• 59:13
  Speaker 1: yard game. And you really convince people to do it
• 59:15
  Speaker 1: like that. Armando sal Ghetto of the Miami Herald he
• 59:18
  Speaker 1: got Jason Taylor, and largely because of a letter from
• 59:20
  Speaker 1: Tom Brady where Tom Brady wrote a note to Hall
• 59:23
  Speaker 1: of Fame voters that said, this is the best defensive
• 59:26
  Speaker 1: player I have ever played again, and Armando was able
• 59:29
  Speaker 1: to parlay that into getting in. So there's different mechanisms
• 59:32
  Speaker 1: that can be used to show the greatness of Tony Boselli.
• 59:34
  Speaker 1: And I just hope this presenter take advantage of all
• 59:37
  Speaker 1: that is out there to get them in and works
• 59:39
  Speaker 1: hand in hand with Tad Dickman and his award winning
• 59:41
  Speaker 1: media relations staff to be able to get some information
• 59:44
  Speaker 1: that would be able to help tell the Tony's canvasy
• 59:46
  Speaker 1: just flip on the tape of the Bruce Smith game yeah,
• 59:48
  Speaker 1: that that might be a good starter. Exactly right, you
• 59:51
  Speaker 1: know what I mean, things like this, go how about
• 59:53
  Speaker 1: this called Bruce Smith? Hey, Bruce, what was it about
• 59:55
  Speaker 1: Tony Boselli that made him so great? Bruce? Is not
• 59:58
  Speaker 1: things like this that that you know, can help get
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 1: the guy in. I've heard Bruce is not so open
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 1: to discussing that football game though. Alex twists are man
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 1: twists are? That's it? An Tony to his house. He's
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 1: still an imposing figure. He'd block him again. Um, hey,
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 1: what about Thursday night football? Jacks Titans? So you got quickly?
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 1: I got the Titans. I mean, I just think, and
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 1: I don't want to say that the game means more
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 1: to them. It does mean more to them. Not that
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 1: this Jacks team won't be fired up, but I just
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 1: it's a short week and listen, look at look at
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 1: the results on Thursday night football, by the way, and
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 1: you know, just look at their home results, and I
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 1: think it answers your question. Obviously we have an anomaly
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 1: here and they're like Denver Arizona. But by and large,
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 1: if tho teams are equal, the home team wins. I
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 1: go with the home team. And you know, the Titans
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 1: have been so erratic this year, but I think they
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 1: can get it together. And look, the Jacks have passed
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 1: for I believe the net yardage total is somewhere around
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 1: three hundred yards in the past three games, if I'm
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 1: not mistaken and trying to do that on the road,
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 1: and when a short week with a quarterback who hasn't
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 1: had a whole heck of a lot of practice. I
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 1: know Leonard for Nette is back, but then the Jacks
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 1: get something done in the air because the Titans will
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 1: score a few points. I just don't think it happens.
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 1: I think the Titans win. Alex. We can always count
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 1: on your butt. It's always great to talk with you,
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 1: and let's do it again soon. Appreciate your time, shameless Plug,
• 1:01:12
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• 1:01:19
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• 1:01:22
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• 1:01:24
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• 1:01:26
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• 1:01:28
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• 1:01:31
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• 1:01:34
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• 1:01:40
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• 1:01:42
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