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The Church’s Spiritual Airstrike: Why We Need Carmelites | Father Carney · Arena Ablaze Podcast

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Welcome into the arena.
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Carney, the walk-in-the-streets of Wichita,
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with, in, through, and for Mary as her
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instrument so that she can lead us to
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more perfectly do everything with, in, through, and
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for Jesus.
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I, Marco Sandoval, a repentant sinner, renew and
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ratify today in your hands, O Immaculate Mother,
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the vows of my baptism.
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I renounce Satan and resolve to follow Jesus
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Christ even more closely than before.
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Mary, I give you my heart.
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Please set it on fire with love for
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Jesus.
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Make it always attentive to his burning thirst
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for love and for souls.
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Keep my heart in your most pure heart,
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that I may love Jesus and the members
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of his body with your own perfect love.
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exterior, and even the value of all my
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good actions.
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am and have, whatever most pleases you.
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Let me be a fit instrument in your
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immaculate and merciful hands for bringing the greatest
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possible glory to God.
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If I fall, please lead me back to
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Jesus.
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Wash me in the blood and water that
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flow from his pure side, and help me
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never to lose my trust in this fountain
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of love and mercy.
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With you, O Immaculate Mother, you who always
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do the will of God, I unite myself
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to the perfect consecration of Jesus as he
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offers himself in the Spirit to the Father
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for the life of the world.
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Amen.
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All right, so we're gonna continue the conversation
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here a little bit.
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I'm curious about the traditional Third Order armal.
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I know you clothed several people here recently,
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so just a little history on the importance
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of carmel, where its genesis comes from, and
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then maybe about what we have going on
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with the people being clothed.
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Sure, so Elijah is called the Prophet of
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Carmel, and he was the one who was
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a spokesperson for God in the Old Testament,
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because there were such bad kings and bad
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priests.
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He had the Battle of the Masses, and
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so the false prophets, 450 of them, battled
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one little Elijah, and that battle ended with
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fire coming down onto Elijah's sacrifice, because it
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was acceptable, and the 450 prophets were commanded
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to be killed to get rid of that,
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because it was a vicious cycle.
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The bad king kept pecking priests from the
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lowest order of society and kept perpetuating evil,
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so Elijah is known for that great prophet
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to convict people to come back to God,
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and he also developed the first monasteries, and
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so there were monks and nuns that were
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living on carmel in the Old Testament, centuries
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before our Lord Jesus came, and when our
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Lord was here, the prophets of Carmel were
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continuing to pray, and eventually, after our Lord
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came and went, then these monks were recognized
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with their law, their constitutions, by the Pope
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in 1200, so they had been formalized as
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a religious community at that point, and so
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they still exist today, and the Carmelites are
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known for the guardians of the interior life,
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so we started a traditional third-order Carmelite
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here in Wichita, with the blessings of the
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Bishop, a couple years ago, and we had
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18 people clothed on the Feast of the
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Transfiguration, and there's a story, there were some
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people coming from Denver, three or four, to
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get clothed, and one of them said to
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herself, well, I need to go to confession,
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and she told the other ladies, they were
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all ladies, and she said, oh, looks like
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there's a priest over there, and so they
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went over, and that wasn't a priest, it
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was Bishop Kimmy, the Bishop of Wichita, and
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she went to confession to him, and they
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told His Excellency what they were doing, and
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His Excellency's comment was hilarious, because they were
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talking about me, and he said, well, Father
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Carney is hard to keep track of, so
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I thought that was so funny, yes, that's
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a good sense of humor, so yeah, they
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got clothed a few weeks ago, and now
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we're all in discernment to get a full
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profession in one year, and so what the
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third-order Carmelites do is they pray the
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Divine Office in the old Divine Office three
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times a day, so that would be Lodz,
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which is like morning prayer, Vespers, which is
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like evening prayer, and Compline, which completes the
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day, and that would be considered night prayer,
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and so once a month, we meet at
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St. Joseph after the traditional Latin Mass, and
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I give a 45-minute spiritual direction about
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what we're reading, so currently we're reading the
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Prophet of Elijah, the Prophet of Carmel, which
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is Elijah, and it's just an amazing thing,
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and then sometimes we'll be talking about tools
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in the interior life, and so when it
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seems like it's hard to be a Catholic
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today, and it seems like we really can't
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get things done that we would like to,
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as far as with the hierarchy of the
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Church, we always have the mystical life, which
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means hidden, mystical means hidden, and so the
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interior life is where a lot of traditional
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Catholics are going, so that they don't get
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lost, they don't get thrown off the Bark
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of Peter.
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The Bark of Peter is the Church, and
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we have to stay on the boat to
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get into Heaven, because that boat is going
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to the Gate of Heaven, so that's what
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Carmel is, it's a third-order, so it's
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right above the Archconfraternity of the Holy Face,
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if you would consider it a fourth, and
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so that's where we're at.
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So hopefully we'll get a lot of young
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men and young women to sign up, and
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we have a foundation of 18 people right
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now, and so every day these people are
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praying for the priests of the Diocese of
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Wichita, and for all other great things that
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have begun, so that hopefully God will bring
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them to their completion.
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I have a lot of questions.
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I'm curious about Elijah.
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I'm going back to the beginning, Carmel.
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So he was taken up by the chariots
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of fire, and he's to return, he was
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at the Transfiguration, and so just for those
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out there who maybe don't, you know, know
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a lot about Elijah, or maybe have read
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the books, but don't really understand the connection,
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would you shine a little bit of light
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on that, because it's fascinating.
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So there's only two people who haven't died
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that are no longer with us, and that's
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Elijah and Enoch, and so they're in some
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sort of a paradise that isn't heaven, but
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it's like an earthly heaven, and they're remaining
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here because they have work to do still,
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and so when our Lord came, you mentioned
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the Transfiguration, the two prophets were there, and
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Elijah was one of them, and the other
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one was Moses, the prophet of the law,
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and so our Lord showed his face as
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a Transfiguration for three of his special apostles,
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and so it's no wonder that when Jesus
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gave us the Holy Face devotion back in
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the 1840s, he came to a nun in
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Carmel, in Tours, and so since Elijah is
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the prophet of Carmel, it's just fitting that
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he was able to see the face of
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God, and it's recorded in Scriptures, and then
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Elijah at the end of time will fight
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the Antichrist, and I find this very dramatic
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storyline, that Antichrist will have so much followers,
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they will think he's God, but then when
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it seems like he's going to gain all
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power, Elijah and Enoch will come down and
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fight him, and Elijah and Enoch will be
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killed, and they will be laying in the
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streets for three and a half days, and
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people are going to be probably taking pictures,
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like, oh, the pagans will see, oh, we
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got him, we won, and then they're going
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to rise from the dead, and everyone's going
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to be scared, and they're going to have
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the revelation that the Antichrist is not the
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true, truly God, and not good.
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So Elijah is kind of in the bank
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right now, if you could say, and I'm
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excited to be one of his disciples.
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So you mentioned Sister Marie de Pierre, and
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I was talking about St. Therese of Lisieux,
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who's another Carmelite, so I'm just curious about,
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so they had monasteries on Carmel, and then
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they spread, so just kind of curious of
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a thumbnail of that.
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They were in Spain as well, St. John
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of the Cross, St. Therese of Avila, the
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interior castle, it's fascinating what you said about
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how they're the guardians of the interior life,
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and now you're clothing Carmelites here, so I'm
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just kind of curious, like, from a 30
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,000 foot view, the numbers and kind of
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the spread through time.
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They basically spread to the west from Carmel,
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so in all of Europe, and Ireland, and
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England, and the United States, and Australia, and
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one of my favorite stories is St. Simon
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Stock, he's the one who got the Carmelite
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scapular, and Our Lady told him to live
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in this little stump of a tree, and
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this was his house, that's why he was
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called Stock, and he was given the Carmelite
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scapular to spread, and Our Lady told him,
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before they came, when the Carmelites come, they
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will be wearing this brown, and then you
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are to join them, and so he did
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that, so they're the guardians of the interior
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life.
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That's interesting, because that was another question I
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had.
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I wear a brown scapular, and I know
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it comes from Our Lady of Mount Carmel,
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and it, my ears always perk up when
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a man is given a revelation, because we've
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talked about this before, how it seems like
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it's always the women, the nuns, that receive
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revelations, and I go back to like Our
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Lady of Fatima, I've always found that to
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be striking, that the girls could see and
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hear Our Lady, but Francisco could only see
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her, he couldn't hear what she was saying,
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so that's interesting.
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So we were talking about clothing, these Carmelites,
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I saw a gentleman wearing his clothing after
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that, and it looked like a large brown
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scapular, so just a little thumbnail on what
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the clothing actually is, and means, and maybe
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what goes into it.
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Yes, I have mine underneath my white cassock,
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you might be able to see it, it's
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about this size, and we wear it underneath,
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except when we're doing Carmelite things, like at
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our monthly meeting, someday, if we get permission
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from the pastor, we're going to go to
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Mass, and we're going to be lined up
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in the front queues, in rank and file,
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and then we'll go have our meeting.
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And on processions, we can wear them on
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the outside too, so when we do our
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monthly procession of reparation, when we chant the
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Rosary and Latin, and the Chaplet of the
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Holy Face, we can wear that on the
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outside.
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So we get to wear a bigger scapular
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when we become a Third Order, because we
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make a bigger commitment.
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For example, a priest has the commitment to
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do a holy hour every day, not just
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as something he decides to do, but under
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vows.
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So it's a more strict promise, but there's
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also greater merits when one fulfills that.
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And so lay people, they have to do
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a 30-minute holy hour.
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And the priest already has to do the
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Divine Office, so that's also part of it,
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but lay people then agree to do three
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offices, like I mentioned earlier—Lauds, Vespers, and Compline.
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So that brings me to the other question
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I have.
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When I first heard about Carmelite Third Order,
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you mentioned that to me, my first thought
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is monks and nuns.
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I didn't realize that lay people could be
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a part of it.
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So maybe kind of explain that, and you
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explain kind of what they did.
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But just, I think most people hearing that
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being clothed as a Third Order Carmelite, they
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would rule themselves out, because they're not religious
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people, like nuns or monks.
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They're lay people, so.
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Yeah, so when a Third Order Carmelite passes
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away, they can be buried in a Carmelite
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habit— a full-gown habit.
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So that's a privilege that they have.
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And a First Order Carmelite is a priest,
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as I mentioned earlier, and a Second Order,
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a nun.
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So there's a lady here, Sister Julie.
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She's had a few ladies come and go,
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and so with the blessing of the ordinary,
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the bishop, she's trying to form a group
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of Carmelite nuns, which would be a Second
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Order, and they would have papal enclosures.
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That means they would not be allowed to
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go outside of the convent, because they would
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simply stay inside and have that interior life.
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And it's important to have contemplative religious orders
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in each diocese, because they're the ones that—they
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send the airstrike whenever there's some spiritual battles
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to be done.
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They're the ones that have that aircraft carrier
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with the airplanes flying out to fight against
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evil.
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And if a diocese doesn't have good contemplative
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orders, it's going to be lacking in its
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firepower against the evil.
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So that's why we're praying that some valiant
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ladies will come and join Sister Julie to
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form this Carmel of the Holy Face.
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Yeah, I do think the power of prayer,
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it's unbelievably powerful.
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I know you understand that.
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I've come to understand it.
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I think just like in secular society, they
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don't really understand the power of it.
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Sometimes it's denigrated.
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And I go to the mother house of
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the Immaculate Heart sisters twice a year.
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They have a procession October 13th and May
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13th for Our Lady of Fatima, and they
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hand out these thousand memoriary cards.
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And there's been several people who have taken
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those and prayed them, and just miraculous things
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happen, or the unexpected happens.
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What they hope for comes true.
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Their hope is realized.
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You hear it all the time.
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And so like you're saying, there's a whole,
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how powerful and important it is to have
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people who are contemplative like that always praying.
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Now you'd mentioned there was several people who
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came from out of town to be clothed,
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so I'm just curious about that structure.
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So there, it's a Carmelite order that's kind
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of based here in Wichita, or comes here
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for its spiritual root, so to speak, but
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then not all of them live in the
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community?
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Yeah, they're called isolates.
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That means they're isolated, and they don't live
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close enough to Wichita to come to the
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monthly meetings.
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So in the spiritual direction, when I comment
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on the book for four to five minutes,
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we record it, and then that's how they
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get formed, is through that.
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So there's about six people who are isolates
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at this moment.
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So that's where that stands.
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What's the process for becoming clothed, basically?
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How long does it take?
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And yeah, the rule of the third order
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of Carmelites says that a person needs to
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come for a couple months to the meetings,
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and if everyone doesn't have a problem, they
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can be clothed.
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They can have a clothing date set.
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So a minimum of two months, then they
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get clothed, and then they have one year
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and one day to discern if they want
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to do this for life.
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And if some people are not sure after
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one year, then we can extend that for
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two years, and then it would be a
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commitment for life to do the divine office,
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to do the holy hour, and to come
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to the monthly meetings, and then we have
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more things like a monthly retreat, or a
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yearly annual retreat.
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So I'm looking for a place to do
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that before everyone gets their profession.
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Profession means that they take their vows, and
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they're in for life.
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The vows of poverty, chastity, and obedience.
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And so for third order Carmelites, it's not
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as strict as it is for nuns, or
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as it is for priests, or brothers that
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do that for life.
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And there's each one has different constitutions, or
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rule that they follow.
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And so we take it exactly as the
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rule is, from the order of Disc House
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Carmelites.
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And so we're just going by the book.
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And my spiritual director, I asked him, can
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you give me a list of books so
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I can form these generous people?
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And he's really smart, and he gave me
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a list of many books, and it's a
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stack about like that.
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So it's going to be a beautiful formation
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for the next 10 or 15 years, because
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45-minute talk can only get through so
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many pages at a time.
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So chastity, you say that word, and that
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always tickles my ear, because I try to
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talk about it, and I think about chastity
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as a married man.
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So you have lay people that are married,
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I assume, that are part of the third
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orders.
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So maybe just briefly what chastity means in
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that context.
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The celibacy is for priests, and for brothers,
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and for nuns and sisters.
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So that's for life, they will never get
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married.
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Chastity is for everyone, and that means that
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we need to be pure, and we can't
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be committing sins against the sixth or ninth
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commandment.
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So that includes actions, words, and thoughts.
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And so chastity is that virtue, whenever we
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get tempted in those three areas, that we
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turn to Our Lady, or we turn to
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God, or we we pray, and then that
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temptation then can be transformed into a merit
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for us, a blessing.
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But if we fall into the temptation against
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chastity, then the devil, the world, and the
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flesh get more power over us.
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And so it's a constant battle, as long
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as we're alive, to fight against the sins
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that are against chastity.
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And in the interior life, that's one of
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the last things that God allows someone to
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be tempted through, is chastity.
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And then after a while, if they're generous
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enough, and in God's own divine providence, he
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decides this person is now confirmed in chastity,
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and they won't get any more temptations in
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chastity.
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But that's a very rare situation.
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Like St. Anthony Mary Claret, that great Archbishop
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of Cuba, he was tempted so much, and
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he prayed so hard, and then he, with
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the help of God, overcame the temptation of
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chastity, and he was given the privilege to
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never be tempted again in that area.
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Hmm.
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Yeah, Father Ritberger says that most spiritual attacks
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come in through the Sixth Commandment.
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That sets this, seems like the easiest door
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in our culture.
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We just get, it's almost like our defenses
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are eroded, and through our ears, through our
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eyes, it's constant.
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So I do think about, you know, chastity,
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even in married life, it's really just willing
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the good of the other, you know?
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It seems like, to me, like, always thinking
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about the other person, taking them into account
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on everything that you do.
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So, very interesting.
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Well, the last thing I wanted to ask
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about was Our Lady of Sorrows, because this
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is September, and I've been particularly praying for
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her intercession in my life, offering a decade
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of the rosary every day, and just other
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family members for her to look into their
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hearts, and kind of like, so I just,
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another thing I heard Father Ritberger say recently
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I thought was extremely interesting was that, you
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know, in the midst of an exorcism, basically
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one of the demons, he said something about
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Mary's most glorious moment, and he got it
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wrong, and the demon said, no, that wasn't
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right.
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That wasn't it.
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And then he got from him that her
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most glorious moment was standing under the cross.
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So that's, you know, Our Lady in sorrow,
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but perfect virtue, because she was in perfect
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virtue at that moment, and I just thought
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that was very interesting between that and, like,
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the Pietà that we're so blessed to have
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at the cathedral.
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Every time I walk through there, I just
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stop and look at it.
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It's so, so beautiful.
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So those are two images in my mind
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of Our Lady of Sorrows, but obviously there
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are others.
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I've kind of been doing a little series
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on Mary, and I'm getting ready to go
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into the presentation in the temple, which is
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like the bittersweetness of, you know, it's a
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joyful mystery on the rosary, but then it's
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one of the sorrows of Our Lady because
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of the prophecy of Simeon and then piercing
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of the dagger.
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So just, yeah, reflect on Our Lady of
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Sorrows and her importance, too.
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Yeah, Our Lady of Sorrows is known to
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reveal when we're not following God's will.
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And so there's some businessmen who are developers,
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and they build traditional style churches for the
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Institute of Christ the King, for the Fraternity
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of St. Peter around the United States, and
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they've been asking me if they would like
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to build something for Wichita.
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And so I said, well, let's give it
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to Our Lady of Sorrows.
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And so we established a thing that I've
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said called neochristendom, where the pagans, when they
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heard of Christ, many of them decided to
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convert because they heard the good news.
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But later on today, we have neopaganism, which
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they've heard of Christ and rejected him.
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And so we have to fight against evil
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differently than they did when the pagans were
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just first hearing of Christ.
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And Archbishop Fulton Sheen said that every 400
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years, the Church goes through a cycle, a
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death, passion, death, and resurrection.
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And so I think we're in that passion
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of the Church right now, because the Church
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is the mystical body of Christ, and Jesus
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is the head, and so just as the
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head went through the passion, death, and resurrection,
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so must the mystical body of Christ.
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And so with neochristendom, there needs to be
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a way to convert the neopagans.
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And so one of the things that we're
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talking about is to build beautiful Catholic churches
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and neighborhoods.
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Secular people are starting to find out that
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people want to live in a community where
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you don't have to walk, or you don't
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have to have a car.
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And so there's a group in Tempe, Arizona,
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called Culdesac.
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The CEO talks about how he was so
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successful in building this block where people are
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living, and there's businesses on the first floor,
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and there's community.
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And so if neopagans can build these things
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and be profitable, wouldn't it be great if
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Catholics could build these beautiful Church structures, sort
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of like the churches of Rome or like
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Quito, Ecuador, and have like a community, like
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maybe the Carmelites of the Holy Face or
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something, where people could actually live in a
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community instead of getting old and going into
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a nursing home?
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You could actually be supported by the young
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people of Catholicism that are taught to treat
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their parents with greater respect than the society
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teaches us.
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So there's a whole bunch in there, and
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this Our Lady of Sorrows, she definitely will
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help us to know whether this is just
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my idea, or it's just my other partner's
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ideas, or if this is something of God.
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Because eventually, it would have to be a
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question for bishops around the United States.
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And there's other guys talking about this, that
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this will be a nice trend, where certain
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bishops would agree to it and have it
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going, and then once it's working, other bishops
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will be presented with the idea, look, it's
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working, here's the pros of it, and here's
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the cons.
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And so it'll be easy for bishops to
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say yes, if it gets into a systematic
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way of working.
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So Our Lady of Sorrows was most virtuous
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at the foot of the cross.
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She was most glorious when she assumed into
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heaven.
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And so since we're going through the Passion,
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we're going to stay with Our Lady.
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We've got to stay close to Our Lady
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during these times and hang with her, and
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not be like the 10 apostles or 11
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apostles that left and fled the foot of
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the cross, but St. John got it.
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He had the interior life.
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He put his ear on the heart of
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Jesus Christ.
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He was able to see the face of
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Jesus transfigured.
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So the interior life has had to be
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a chosen vessel to be close to Our
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Lady, who will bring us to the face
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of Jesus.
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Now my wife told me something, and I'll
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end with this, but my wife told me
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something very recently, pointed something out to me,
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because I was lamenting the fact that we
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do these processions, and I feel like the
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women outnumber the men so sorely.
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And so I was complaining and whining about
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that, and she said, well at the foot
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of the cross there were three women and
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only John, so maybe you need more women.
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And I thought, that's a very insightful thing
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to say.
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And yeah, so I was like, okay, never
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mind.
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I do want more men there, but we
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got to have our women there too, for
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sure.
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So yeah, it's awesome.
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Well, do you want to give your blessing
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here to end it?