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- 0:02Speaker 2: We lift up.
- 0:32Speaker 1: What's up everyone? Tyler tambalein here aka Totag and Tambo
- 0:35Speaker 1: back for another edition of the Monday Night Football Showdown
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- 0:44Speaker 1: Got Hoopster here with me, Got title here with Me,
- 0:46Speaker 1: and we're back to break down the final game of
- 0:49Speaker 1: week fifteen. We've got the Dolphins at the Steelers, and
- 0:52Speaker 1: I for one cannot wait to watch Chris Boswell kick
- 0:55Speaker 1: seventeen field goals tonight. Hoopster got to bring you in
- 0:57Speaker 1: first man, what's going on? How you doing? My friend?
- 1:00Speaker 3: It does seem like a virtual lock for that to occur.
- 1:02Speaker 3: I mean, it's just these these.
- 1:05Speaker 4: Standalone primetime games, especially at home. It's something with Boswell
- 1:10Speaker 4: at home in these primetime games, it's like an auto
- 1:14Speaker 4: auto crush, Like he just automatically goes off. So I
- 1:17Speaker 4: was thinking about that when I saw this game. That's
- 1:19Speaker 4: one of the first things I thought of. So yeah,
- 1:21Speaker 4: I mean, we'll definitely talk through it all, but you know,
- 1:24Speaker 4: relatively interesting game.
- 1:26Speaker 3: I'd say.
- 1:26Speaker 4: We did get some news like Jalen Moren questionable, but
- 1:29Speaker 4: sounds like he's gonna play whenever they say questionable with
- 1:33Speaker 4: the illness. It seems like these guys always play like.
- 1:35Speaker 4: There's not many guys that are sitting out because they
- 1:37Speaker 4: got the sniffles. So I think Warren Warren will be
- 1:40Speaker 4: in and uh yeah, it's an important game obviously for
- 1:44Speaker 4: the Steelers. I mean they need to kind of keep
- 1:47Speaker 4: winning to hold off the raven So a good game.
- 1:50Speaker 1: I'm hoping they lose for that reason. Happy to see
- 1:52Speaker 1: the Ravens get the job done yesterday. But the yeah,
- 1:55Speaker 1: the setup on what you said, like, I don't think
- 1:57Speaker 1: anybody in the NFL wants to be known as the
- 1:59Speaker 1: guy that is out with you getting you'll get some
- 2:01Speaker 1: fluids and get in the game. They're not gonna miss
- 2:03Speaker 1: the game unless something's actually wrong with them. Guys are
- 2:05Speaker 1: playing through broken fibulas and you name it. I don't
- 2:07Speaker 1: think anyone's getting out they said he was getting fluids.
- 2:11Speaker 4: Only the NBA, where those guys are just such pussies
- 2:14Speaker 4: where they will sit out for that sort of thing
- 2:15Speaker 4: like every other sport. For the most part, these guys
- 2:17Speaker 4: will we'll tough about.
- 2:18Speaker 1: Not that be a what is it load management too?
- 2:21Speaker 1: They got all kinds of stuff going on the NBA.
- 2:23Speaker 1: You know, your kid comes to see the game for
- 2:24Speaker 1: the first time. This is the only time the superstar
- 2:26Speaker 1: is going to be in town. Nope, sitting today, not
- 2:28Speaker 1: coming to play. Whatever it might be. Title, my man,
- 2:31Speaker 1: I got to bring you in here. Next, we've got
- 2:32Speaker 1: the Dolphins at the Steelers. Another fun showdown game ahead
- 2:35Speaker 1: to round out week fifteen. How you doing, my friend?
- 2:38Speaker 3: Good? Yeah, I hope it's fun. I don't know.
- 2:40Speaker 5: I'm a little indifferent to this one, but then I
- 2:43Speaker 5: thought about it and I'm like, man, in two months,
- 2:45Speaker 5: a month and a half, I mean, we're not going
- 2:46Speaker 5: to have football, and I'd rather watch any two teams play.
- 2:49Speaker 5: So yeah, I always love watching football on my screen.
- 2:52Speaker 5: We got big prizes, so I'm excited for it. But yeah,
- 2:55Speaker 5: I'm also with you, definitely cheering for the Dolphins. I
- 2:59Speaker 5: really want the Ravens that get to the playoffs and
- 3:01Speaker 5: somehow outlast the Bills.
- 3:03Speaker 3: So I'll be cheering for the Dolphins over here as well.
- 3:06Speaker 1: That'd be great. I would love that as well. Kenny
- 3:08Speaker 1: z my Man in the chat. This is the winner
- 3:09Speaker 1: yesterday of the Golden Shipper over the ship of Games
- 3:13Speaker 1: round out the second last week, so this will be
- 3:15Speaker 1: the last week four ship at Games. The main setup
- 3:17Speaker 1: to get to the forty eight forty nine to fifty
- 3:20Speaker 1: of the Golden ship it's and then starting in week
- 3:22Speaker 1: seventeen will be round one. So we'll keep an eye
- 3:25Speaker 1: on your emails if you did make it in and
- 3:26Speaker 1: get a Golden shipp it and if you're looking for one,
- 3:28Speaker 1: and the last opportunity is going to be this week,
- 3:30Speaker 1: so the winners will be announced on Thursday for the
- 3:33Speaker 1: last two that we announce up front, and then tomorrow
- 3:36Speaker 1: morning check your emails for the final Golden Shipper opportunity
- 3:39Speaker 1: where one ninety nine we'll get to play down for
- 3:42Speaker 1: the final Golden shipp It of the contest. So it's
- 3:44Speaker 1: exciting stuff. Congrats to Kenny for yesterday and our man Derek.
- 3:47Speaker 1: I don't know if you've got the promotion yet. I
- 3:49Speaker 1: know last time he was talking about it was on
- 3:51Speaker 1: the horizon. Hopefully you got up, my friend. But he says,
- 3:53Speaker 1: nothing makes me happier than seeing Chiefs are eliminated from playoffs.
- 3:56Speaker 1: I think a lot of people that don't like the
- 3:58Speaker 1: Chiefs like seeing that. It's unfortunate that it had to
- 4:00Speaker 1: be a minute left where Mahomes tears' acl like, nobody
- 4:03Speaker 1: wants to see that. Mika Parsons yesterday, tars Ac. I'll
- 4:06Speaker 1: just hate to see all these injuries the way they've
- 4:08Speaker 1: been happening, obviously, injuries that hurt our fantasy teams are
- 4:11Speaker 1: you know, one thing, you're just you know, you're tilted
- 4:12Speaker 1: for a little bit. But when you see a real
- 4:14Speaker 1: life situation like that one, just the way it plays out,
- 4:16Speaker 1: it's never fun. Hoop Grant scheme over you man. You
- 4:20Speaker 1: got to give it to us for this one. We
- 4:21Speaker 1: talked a little bit about making fun of the kickers
- 4:23Speaker 1: off the top the game and how much it matters
- 4:25Speaker 1: and all that to the Steelers. But I don't know.
- 4:27Speaker 1: It looks like the weather's gonna be okay, heated field
- 4:30Speaker 1: in Pittsburgh, So even if it is a little bit
- 4:32Speaker 1: colder like I saw earlier when I was looking at it,
- 4:34Speaker 1: it's gonna matter too much. The Warren News will wait on.
- 4:37Speaker 1: But what are some of the other things you're just
- 4:38Speaker 1: seeing as far as the slate and how it's gonna
- 4:39Speaker 1: play out.
- 4:41Speaker 4: One thing for sure is definitely like the captain position,
- 4:45Speaker 4: and I'll say, like the lack of appealing options.
- 4:48Speaker 3: I mean, you're gonna people look to h Chan.
- 4:52Speaker 4: Fine play option, fine option up top, you know, uh,
- 4:57Speaker 4: dk Metcalf, big upside.
- 4:58Speaker 3: Jalen Waddle. But that it is tough.
- 5:01Speaker 4: I mean, you know, for me personally, it is a
- 5:04Speaker 4: slate where I could potentially really narrow it down because
- 5:07Speaker 4: it's looking like Aaron Rodgers. We have him at like
- 5:10Speaker 4: eleven percent, like two US six, Like, I just can't
- 5:13Speaker 4: see the quarterbacks being there, and you're usually the quarterback
- 5:17Speaker 4: whisper on these shows. So Karaska, your take, But I
- 5:20Speaker 4: definitely think the toughest part for sure is captain and
- 5:24Speaker 4: finding guys that you want to play.
- 5:27Speaker 3: You got the Jayler Warren stuff.
- 5:29Speaker 4: I do think he plays, but it's like I want
- 5:30Speaker 4: to put him up top if he is sick, like
- 5:33Speaker 4: is it more of a split? So that to me
- 5:35Speaker 4: is the most the most difficult part of the slate.
- 5:37Speaker 4: Where to talk to you about the bosball thing? So
- 5:41Speaker 4: I don't know, there's not too much more to really
- 5:43Speaker 4: talk about. I think in terms of the overview, it's
- 5:45Speaker 4: again like what do you do at captain? And it
- 5:48Speaker 4: is tough to find comfortable options up there?
- 5:51Speaker 1: What is this stat?
- 5:52Speaker 2: Now?
- 5:52Speaker 1: Like I thought we just saw him. Now they're saying
- 5:54Speaker 1: it's under forty degrees. Didn't he just play in like
- 5:56Speaker 1: a super cold game and the Dolphins just shoved It
- 5:59Speaker 1: was like thirty four something like a week ago or
- 6:02Speaker 1: two weeks ago, I can't remember. But now they're just
- 6:04Speaker 1: adding like different degrees to it. So if it's only
- 6:07Speaker 1: you know, thirty eight degrees, you could play him. If
- 6:09Speaker 1: it's once it's under forty though, you can't play him.
- 6:12Speaker 1: He's own five. So I don't know what. We'll have
- 6:13Speaker 1: to wait and see titles. Do you have any any
- 6:15Speaker 1: thoughts on that stuff? And then anything you want to
- 6:17Speaker 1: talk about to add on just to what who went
- 6:18Speaker 1: through there?
- 6:20Speaker 3: Yeah?
- 6:20Speaker 5: No, maybe it was they played the Jets on December
- 6:23Speaker 5: seventh in New York, so I assume it was kind
- 6:25Speaker 5: of pretty cold there.
- 6:26Speaker 4: But that doesn't remember thirty that doesn't that doesn't count,
- 6:29Speaker 4: Like facing the Jets does not count as anythore.
- 6:32Speaker 3: They put him thirty.
- 6:32Speaker 5: Four points, that was he only you only went thirteen
- 6:35Speaker 5: for one to twenty one and yeah, one hundred twenty
- 6:37Speaker 5: seven yards, So who been on that train?
- 6:40Speaker 3: Yeah?
- 6:41Speaker 4: I mean I'm not like the big narrative guy, but
- 6:43Speaker 4: he is awful and cold weather sometimes, honestly, like golf
- 6:46Speaker 4: outside of the dome typically sucks. I mean, yes, there's
- 6:49Speaker 4: gonna be situations where he doesn't. But Tua throughout his
- 6:52Speaker 4: career has been played worse in cold weather. Just there's
- 6:56Speaker 4: to me, there's no denying that.
- 6:58Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I just mean, I just want.
- 7:00Speaker 4: But he's like he played but like say he's played
- 7:02Speaker 4: bag in cold weather until he doesn't or you know,
- 7:05Speaker 4: like that, I just laugh.
- 7:06Speaker 1: More when they add like the temp on there, it's like,
- 7:08Speaker 1: you know, this guy's good up to certain degrees. Now
- 7:11Speaker 1: they got to like always there's always a new angle
- 7:13Speaker 1: for any narrative, right, That's that's what I laugh about.
- 7:15Speaker 1: But the chat's going off. They already said, like Captain
- 7:18Speaker 1: Captain Boswell reporting for duty Boswell, Captain Knight. We all
- 7:22Speaker 1: know it, Captain Boswell. There yet John neu Smith Revenge Game,
- 7:25Speaker 1: John Whiz. Interesting later when we get to what that
- 7:28Speaker 1: would look like for leverage and stuff. But even last night,
- 7:31Speaker 1: that's crazy too. Aubrey. Even everyone was laughing in the
- 7:33Speaker 1: discord because how much I played a ton of Aubrey. Obviously,
- 7:36Speaker 1: and I'm gonna play a ton of Boswell tonight as
- 7:37Speaker 1: much as I make fun of the scoring, But Aubrey
- 7:39Speaker 1: did that crazy fake illegal to start the game. What
- 7:43Speaker 1: what can't Aubrey do? And then everyone was so mad
- 7:45Speaker 1: they didn't get his rush yards Like this, just take
- 7:47Speaker 1: the fact that he did something and they're moving the ball.
- 7:50Speaker 1: You know, it just depends on what your lineups look like.
- 7:51Speaker 1: I guess, but I thought that was an awesome way
- 7:53Speaker 1: to start the slate. Tin. I'll let you carry on
- 7:55Speaker 1: anything else you want to add. If not, you can
- 7:56Speaker 1: start getting into these captains and then we'll take it
- 7:59Speaker 1: from there.
- 8:00Speaker 3: Yeah we have. I mean eight Chan is the clear guy.
- 8:02Speaker 5: He could push thirty thirty two percent and you don't
- 8:05Speaker 5: see that very often as a road dog running back,
- 8:08Speaker 5: but I mean he's a receiver running back. He does
- 8:10Speaker 5: it all for the team, get there in so many
- 8:12Speaker 5: ways in so many game scripts. And then the lack
- 8:15Speaker 5: of options are appealing options on the Pittsburgh side, I guess, yeah,
- 8:19Speaker 5: like DK Metcalf kind of stands out, but gain Well
- 8:22Speaker 5: Warren are kind of in a split. They have a
- 8:23Speaker 5: million tight ends, as we saw weeks ago in the
- 8:26Speaker 5: Sincy game. So it's a lot more difficult to pinpoint
- 8:29Speaker 5: over there. I will say, just like grand scheme kind of,
- 8:33Speaker 5: but we have a good amount of value on this slate,
- 8:35Speaker 5: unlike some slates we've talked about. Dulchic Scantling, Guy Scantling's
- 8:40Speaker 5: back in the mix, Darnel Washington, John Who, Friarmouth, Calvin Austin. Like,
- 8:46Speaker 5: there's definitely people with real projections that will be on
- 8:48Speaker 5: the field below four K, which makes it even easier
- 8:51Speaker 5: to spend up for captain if you do want to
- 8:53Speaker 5: do so, which I plan on doing on a lot
- 8:55Speaker 5: of teams. Obviously I'll be playing a good amount of
- 8:58Speaker 5: eight chan. But I think Waddle is a very interesting play.
- 9:01Speaker 5: We're showing him at ten percent captain. Yeah, maybe that's right.
- 9:06Speaker 5: I think a chan does get a little more than
- 9:08Speaker 5: probably most have it projected.
- 9:10Speaker 3: We have twenty six right now.
- 9:11Speaker 5: Again, I just think it comes back to people are
- 9:13Speaker 5: gonna struggle clicking a lot of other names, and we
- 9:15Speaker 5: could see like thirty two, thirty three. If that's the case,
- 9:18Speaker 5: Wattle comes down a little bit and he leverages off
- 9:21Speaker 5: like sodas Tua. But I don't like two as much.
- 9:23Speaker 5: But if Wattle scores twice, eight Chan's not scoring twice,
- 9:26Speaker 5: or if he catches eight balls, eight Chan's not catching
- 9:29Speaker 5: as many. So I really do like Wattle up top
- 9:32Speaker 5: after a Chan. I think Darren Waller is interesting too.
- 9:36Speaker 5: He's like a mid tier captain option, but he just
- 9:39Speaker 5: has such high value targets the red zone. He could
- 9:41Speaker 5: easily score twice. The snapcounts have been going up a
- 9:43Speaker 5: little bit. He's another dolphin that I will be playing
- 9:47Speaker 5: up top after that, though I struggle not really sure.
- 9:50Speaker 5: I don't think I'm gonna play too. If I played
- 9:52Speaker 5: a quarterback, it would be Rogers, and I think I'll
- 9:54Speaker 5: play a little Rogers just because he has so many
- 9:56Speaker 5: tight ends. He can spread it out too. He has DK,
- 9:59Speaker 5: he can drop it down to his running backs. He's
- 10:01Speaker 5: gonna be low ish owned. So I'm fine with Rogers
- 10:04Speaker 5: up top. DK Metcalf for sure. And then yeah, this
- 10:08Speaker 5: Warren Gainwell stuff is a little difficult right now. I
- 10:11Speaker 5: actually think I prefer gain Well up top because he
- 10:14Speaker 5: has two K cheaper in the flex, three K cheaper
- 10:17Speaker 5: at captain. If there is any bit of illness, or
- 10:19Speaker 5: if they do like split it a little bit or
- 10:22Speaker 5: want Warren take a little bit off his workload. Gain
- 10:24Speaker 5: Will has been great in his opportunities. So yeah, I
- 10:28Speaker 5: think I'll embrace the unknowns a little bit and the
- 10:31Speaker 5: two K savings and the flex. I think I'm gonna
- 10:33Speaker 5: play some gain Well up top after that, though, I am.
- 10:36Speaker 5: I'm struggling pretty hard Wattle, Hn Metcalf, Gainwell, Waller, maybe.
- 10:41Speaker 3: A little bit of Rogers. I'll see what you guys
- 10:44Speaker 3: say after that.
- 10:45Speaker 1: I think roster construction as usual is going to be
- 10:47Speaker 1: important because, like you said, when it's not a lot
- 10:48Speaker 1: of captains that you like, it's like, Okay, I can
- 10:50Speaker 1: go to Darren Waller up top at sixty six hundred
- 10:52Speaker 1: and that I can definitely make sense of that for
- 10:54Speaker 1: a couple of reasons. One, he would leverage Hn, and
- 10:56Speaker 1: without going to Tua, you still get a piece of
- 10:58Speaker 1: that action on that side. He makes for a different
- 11:01Speaker 1: build altogether. And then you might not have to go
- 11:03Speaker 1: to some of these value plays and try and figure
- 11:06Speaker 1: out is it Westbrook a Keene, is it scal Scantling,
- 11:09Speaker 1: is it Pat Fryarmoth or whatever and all these guys.
- 11:11Speaker 1: So there's certainly something to be said from that standpoint
- 11:14Speaker 1: when you're doing it and then the other thing is
- 11:16Speaker 1: just the Rogers thing. I'll talk about for two seconds.
- 11:20Speaker 1: He's the quarterback I have interest in here. When you've
- 11:22Speaker 1: got three tight ends alone that he can throw too.
- 11:25Speaker 1: There was a game earlier this season where he threw
- 11:27Speaker 1: a touchdown to all of them. I think it was like,
- 11:29Speaker 1: first it was John New, then it was Darnel Washington,
- 11:32Speaker 1: then it was Friar Mooth ends up being the guy
- 11:34Speaker 1: you needed. It's like, if that's the case, and then
- 11:36Speaker 1: you add the Metcalfs and the Austin's and guys like
- 11:38Speaker 1: that of the world. He could even throw it down
- 11:40Speaker 1: in a checkdown to Warren or gain Well or whatever.
- 11:43Speaker 1: I at least have some interest in him. And I
- 11:46Speaker 1: like your call out about Kenny Gainwell, opposite of our
- 11:49Speaker 1: guy yesterday that we made fun of in Cooper Rush.
- 11:51Speaker 1: Kenneth actually does gain quite well sometimes and can be
- 11:54Speaker 1: explosive with the ball, so we don't mind him and
- 11:56Speaker 1: at the price savings, I actually like that our guy
- 11:59Speaker 1: on fluids might get back into the game and play
- 12:01Speaker 1: and get worn in there, because maybe that keeps the
- 12:04Speaker 1: ownership down a little bit on game well, or at
- 12:06Speaker 1: least in check versus what it would have been. So
- 12:08Speaker 1: I like that call quite a bit in the savings
- 12:10Speaker 1: of two thousand looking at the props. By the way,
- 12:13Speaker 1: we'll get the fan duel pricing later, but the pricing's
- 12:15Speaker 1: insanely different today in a lot of different spots, So
- 12:18Speaker 1: that's something else to call out. But for me, more
- 12:21Speaker 1: a Chan wattle waller pretty straight up, and on the
- 12:24Speaker 1: other side pretty straight up as well. It is more
- 12:26Speaker 1: Gainwell Metcalf and Washington Darnel Washington is cheap, super cheap. Sorry,
- 12:32Speaker 1: not a captain, but just another guy was thinking of.
- 12:34Speaker 1: But Austin sorry, as another guy that I would put
- 12:37Speaker 1: up top as a cheaper captain. So it is Gainwell Metcalf,
- 12:40Speaker 1: Austin Rogers Austin being the last. And on the other side,
- 12:44Speaker 1: it's more a Chan wattle Waller hoop. Anything you want
- 12:47Speaker 1: to add there, anything else you got to add to it.
- 12:49Speaker 4: Yeah, I like the Waller call just because he can
- 12:52Speaker 4: have a big game, like a two touchdown games, probably
- 12:55Speaker 4: you know, enough for him to be the optimal captain.
- 12:57Speaker 4: So I like that call, but I think I'll keep
- 12:59Speaker 4: it pretty tight outside of that, Like h Han is
- 13:02Speaker 4: definitely gonna be higher on than we're showing, and I
- 13:05Speaker 4: think anyone else is showing. It's just the obvious play
- 13:08Speaker 4: at Captain that a lot of people go to. I
- 13:11Speaker 4: like Jalen Waddle for sure. I think Wattle makes makes
- 13:14Speaker 4: a lot of sense. And then you know, DK Metcalf,
- 13:18Speaker 4: I like him. I'm not gonna mess. I don't think
- 13:20Speaker 4: it's like game Well or Warren and I will keep
- 13:24Speaker 4: Boswall up there just for the hell of it, just
- 13:25Speaker 4: because who knows like he can you can.
- 13:27Speaker 3: Get twenty like you can definitely forget that.
- 13:29Speaker 1: We definitely got to add that. I have him in
- 13:31Speaker 1: the pool for sure.
- 13:33Speaker 4: Yeah, and then I randomly just thought about something cause
- 13:36Speaker 4: I know I left the show a little bit early yesterday,
- 13:38Speaker 4: but I remember like one of the last things I
- 13:39Speaker 4: said and before I left was in regards to uh genty.
- 13:44Speaker 4: I was just saying, if this is a spot where
- 13:45Speaker 4: I can just go ahead and victory lap that like
- 13:47Speaker 4: worst play on the slate and ended up being true.
- 13:50Speaker 3: I got two percent. Guy can never be.
- 13:55Speaker 1: But I mean nobody else but I will say I
- 13:58Speaker 1: gave it. This morning on Takedown Down, there was two
- 14:00Speaker 1: really good calls that you had that was certainly one
- 14:03Speaker 1: of them in Gente was very good. He said he's
- 14:05Speaker 1: the worst play and he was pretty bad. But as
- 14:08Speaker 1: a player, I don't know, but you know, the result
- 14:09Speaker 1: certainly very bad and the McBride.
- 14:12Speaker 3: The McBride call was that was your best call for sure.
- 14:15Speaker 3: I thought of that when he kept nuking.
- 14:17Speaker 1: I was like, title, he didn't show up anywhere, and
- 14:24Speaker 1: he was so low owned and so expensive, like you
- 14:27Speaker 1: could have played like if you did the right stuff
- 14:29Speaker 1: around it.
- 14:30Speaker 5: But yeah, it's like if you went Tracy, there wasn't
- 14:33Speaker 5: I guess kind of enough. But yeah, it's that was
- 14:35Speaker 5: a great call for the McBride stuff. Yeah, yeah, Kenneth Walker.
- 14:38Speaker 5: He man, what is what is going on with Kenneth Walker?
- 14:42Speaker 5: It's I just keeps burying my team might be better.
- 14:46Speaker 5: I don't know, Like he's just not I don't know.
- 14:48Speaker 3: Yeah, he's definitely frustrating.
- 14:50Speaker 1: I think it's all just delusion on our part and
- 14:52Speaker 1: mine mine included very much. So just we just keep
- 14:55Speaker 1: playing this guy and then we hate ourselves for it
- 14:57Speaker 1: after it's like there's just no need or no reason.
- 15:00Speaker 1: It's when we were making fun of Hunter Henry forever.
- 15:02Speaker 1: I know he came out and had that new game
- 15:04Speaker 1: after we made fun of him, but so like we
- 15:05Speaker 1: always played this guy, he always gets at least some ownership.
- 15:08Speaker 1: Walker lately has been getting a lot, and then it's
- 15:10Speaker 1: like he does absolutely nothing. So it's unfortunate the way
- 15:14Speaker 1: the slates set up. But like yesterday it was Seattle
- 15:16Speaker 1: d was popular. Oh might as well throw a little
- 15:18Speaker 1: Kenneth Walker in with that popular defense and get nothing
- 15:21Speaker 1: out of either of them. That's perfect.
- 15:23Speaker 5: Feel great, Yeah, this is interesting. I mean it kind
- 15:26Speaker 5: of reminds me of the Woody Mark stuff. So they
- 15:28Speaker 5: said last week eight Chan could have came back if
- 15:30Speaker 5: they like they were playing the Jets. They're out of
- 15:32Speaker 5: the playoff contention, Like why would you even risk anything?
- 15:36Speaker 5: So I'm not worried about it, But I mean the
- 15:37Speaker 5: same could be said. What he marks against the Chiefs
- 15:40Speaker 5: was banged up. It seemed like almost every other play
- 15:42Speaker 5: two weeks ago, and then same thing happened last week
- 15:45Speaker 5: and then eventually sat out in the second half.
- 15:46Speaker 3: Now it's stay to day.
- 15:48Speaker 5: I don't hate the if you're trying to make a
- 15:50Speaker 5: case to fade them, but I think he's pretty close
- 15:52Speaker 5: to one hundred percent. They said, like he could have
- 15:55Speaker 5: came back as an emergency if they needed last game.
- 15:57Speaker 5: So I'm not worried about it, but I mean he's
- 15:59Speaker 5: gonna be owned. If any reason to talk yourself out
- 16:01Speaker 5: of the mega chalk guy, you can't go wrong.
- 16:04Speaker 1: Man. This is a really good compliment. Who because first
- 16:07Speaker 1: of all, Jerry Matt is saying nice things about you, said,
- 16:10Speaker 1: what a stud all dressed up. And second of all,
- 16:13Speaker 1: he's he's coming off a twenty plus thousand dollars day
- 16:16Speaker 1: over a ship a nation member at the community there,
- 16:18Speaker 1: and so he's got no reason to butter you up.
- 16:20Speaker 1: I mean, he's already feeling pretty good. He's adding this
- 16:22Speaker 1: on top. So that's a that's a really good compliment
- 16:25Speaker 1: right there.
- 16:25Speaker 3: A lot of people you went to lunch, didn't You
- 16:27Speaker 3: might be my new style for the shows. I mean yeah,
- 16:30Speaker 3: you never know.
- 16:30Speaker 4: It might show up every day with like a nice
- 16:33Speaker 4: shirt and some you know hair.
- 16:34Speaker 3: Gel in a lunch with the father in law. How
- 16:38Speaker 3: do you know literally the last time you did that?
- 16:42Speaker 3: When you addressed you have a great memory, that's exactly
- 16:46Speaker 3: exactly where I was.
- 16:48Speaker 1: I was just going to say the same.
- 16:51Speaker 3: Law. That's hilarious, great call, that's exactly where I was.
- 16:56Speaker 1: Yeah, there's some other adult chic and we'll get to
- 16:58Speaker 1: Darnel Wash. Yeah, we'll get to the position. A lot
- 17:00Speaker 1: people want to talk about the tight ends today. We'll see.
- 17:02Speaker 1: But who, if anything else you want to add at
- 17:04Speaker 1: the captain in general or quarterbacks. I know we kind
- 17:07Speaker 1: of hit on you. You kind of hit on two Rogers.
- 17:09Speaker 1: I added the Rogers piece. I think the one thing
- 17:11Speaker 1: about him is he does definitely spread it around enough
- 17:14Speaker 1: that it could just be him. But it's, you know,
- 17:16Speaker 1: kind of like the JJ McCarthy situation last night, has
- 17:19Speaker 1: to have that kind of game you'd think for him
- 17:21Speaker 1: to be up there. So I don't think anything you
- 17:23Speaker 1: want to add to that if not take the running back.
- 17:25Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I'm with you, like if I'm if
- 17:27Speaker 4: I'm playing one up top would definitely be Rogers over too.
- 17:30Speaker 4: I just I can't click to a up top and
- 17:33Speaker 4: I don't know if I'll click Rogers. But I think
- 17:35Speaker 4: the case is much stronger for Rogers than to both
- 17:40Speaker 4: obviously fine in flex running back spot, I mean, hn,
- 17:44Speaker 4: not much more to say.
- 17:45Speaker 3: I mean very stable. I'm not worried about the injury
- 17:48Speaker 3: at all.
- 17:48Speaker 4: I mean they said he could have came back, and
- 17:50Speaker 4: I do believe that didn't look bad, So I think
- 17:52Speaker 4: he's totally fine. Yeah, ownership is gonna be massive. I
- 17:55Speaker 4: mean he's the Clear stud, the Clear spend up on
- 17:58Speaker 4: the slate, captain flex, whatever sort of roster construction you
- 18:02Speaker 4: can just fit right into.
- 18:03Speaker 3: So I'm fine with that, you know.
- 18:06Speaker 4: Jalen Warren definitely, I think he plays, and you know,
- 18:11Speaker 4: if he doesn't, obviously game will becomes very strong. But
- 18:14Speaker 4: I do think there is a chance that it is
- 18:16Speaker 4: a little more of a split, so I will be
- 18:18Speaker 4: cautious with how much moren I get game most fine,
- 18:21Speaker 4: and then it does really dry.
- 18:24Speaker 3: Up after that.
- 18:24Speaker 4: I mean sixty eight hundred for Jayalen, right, you can't
- 18:28Speaker 4: pay that, like there's no way, Like he has to
- 18:29Speaker 4: score probably twice. So I think that's so they price
- 18:33Speaker 4: these guys up in case a Chan was gonna miss
- 18:35Speaker 4: and it kind of takes them out of play, like right,
- 18:37Speaker 4: and Ali Gordon can't do that, And I really don't
- 18:41Speaker 4: want Caleb Johnson either unless obviously.
- 18:44Speaker 3: Warren is out, so a Chan.
- 18:47Speaker 4: You know, maybe, so definitely some warn but I don't
- 18:50Speaker 4: want to go like crazy with Warren and then gain Wells.
- 18:53Speaker 4: I don't know, it's a pretty weak position after a
- 18:55Speaker 4: Chan Amias.
- 18:57Speaker 1: Yeah, and a lot of the stuff, even if people
- 18:58Speaker 1: see boosted stats as a later because of the eight
- 19:00Speaker 1: Chan injury in the last game. So that's where those
- 19:02Speaker 1: guys got in there. Some I actually think Ollie Gordon,
- 19:05Speaker 1: I'm not in love with this play. I'm just saying,
- 19:06Speaker 1: as from a flexplay, if you were landing on someone there,
- 19:08Speaker 1: for me, it'd be more likely to be Ali Gordon,
- 19:11Speaker 1: not just because of the two K difference, but because
- 19:12Speaker 1: he was already being mixed in when Ahm was healthy.
- 19:15Speaker 1: A lot of the right stuff came after a Chan
- 19:17Speaker 1: went out. We'd seen Alli Gordon mixed into these games before,
- 19:20Speaker 1: so I'm not really in love with any of that stuff.
- 19:22Speaker 1: It's just more of just a mention there title. Do
- 19:24Speaker 1: you want to add anything else on either side of
- 19:26Speaker 1: these running back rooms?
- 19:28Speaker 2: Man?
- 19:28Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean it's really just like the price the
- 19:30Speaker 5: Dolphins guys like it in case a Chan miss, where
- 19:33Speaker 5: the slay just wasn't garbage. So I can't get to
- 19:35Speaker 5: Ali or right. But the Gainwell Warren stuff's interesting. I
- 19:39Speaker 5: like Gainwell more, but again I'm worried that ownership, especially
- 19:42Speaker 5: with that news and stuff projections were already kind of close,
- 19:47Speaker 5: and that two K savings like nine K is a
- 19:49Speaker 5: big price for Warren. I could see Warren being like
- 19:52Speaker 5: a mid twenty low twenties and Gamewell getting like mid thirties.
- 19:56Speaker 5: So the game theory aspect, if you need to get
- 19:58Speaker 5: different on your team, I don't hate Jalen Warren because
- 20:01Speaker 5: you're looking at props. I mean, the targets have been awesome.
- 20:03Speaker 5: Rogers loves checking the ball down to Kenny Gainwell his
- 20:06Speaker 5: receiving prop or his reception prop three and a half
- 20:09Speaker 5: minus one forty nine on the over fourth on the slate,
- 20:12Speaker 5: and the rushing receiving between the two Warren sixty nine
- 20:16Speaker 5: and a half game well fifty eight and a half,
- 20:18Speaker 5: it's pretty close. And yeah, again if there's any bit
- 20:21Speaker 5: of like Warren is not feeling good and they want
- 20:24Speaker 5: to give a little more to gain Well and take
- 20:26Speaker 5: a little off him, I mean you could see pretty
- 20:28Speaker 5: much like almost the same prop stuff. So I definitely
- 20:32Speaker 5: like Gainwell more in a vacuum, but I am thinking
- 20:35Speaker 5: that we do see a big moonwalk back and Warren
- 20:38Speaker 5: at a big price tag and Gainwell gets some steam.
- 20:41Speaker 5: So depending on how chalk your team is and how
- 20:43Speaker 5: it looks. Just know what you're getting into, and yeah,
- 20:47Speaker 5: this is interesting. I mean I'm not going to exit out,
- 20:50Speaker 5: but at their price tags, it'd be really hard for
- 20:52Speaker 5: me in a handbuild to click both of them if
- 20:54Speaker 5: I'm captaining one of them, because if I'm captaining one
- 20:57Speaker 5: of them, I'm just hoping that it's just almost all
- 20:59Speaker 5: of them got all the touchdowns, like one of them
- 21:02Speaker 5: they rode the hot hand.
- 21:03Speaker 3: Or whatever it was, so not exit out.
- 21:05Speaker 5: You can get different in showdown when a lot of
- 21:07Speaker 5: money if it works, but I don't love it at
- 21:09Speaker 5: the prices.
- 21:10Speaker 1: What was the Gibbs Montgomery one that got there recently
- 21:12Speaker 1: that we talked about. I know it was ugly, but
- 21:13Speaker 1: it was against the Dallas fourmy Bates with Dak floor
- 21:19Speaker 1: Noy and Aubrey.
- 21:20Speaker 5: Right, yeah, but like if CD doesn't get hurt there,
- 21:23Speaker 5: like I don't. The lineup was completely different with with
- 21:25Speaker 5: up top there.
- 21:26Speaker 3: So yeah, that was a game.
- 21:28Speaker 1: No, agree that that makes a ton of sense. That's
- 21:30Speaker 1: what you know. I look at that stuff to the
- 21:31Speaker 1: same same type idea. Philip Rivers will start in week
- 21:34Speaker 1: sixteen as well. We're gonna get the the Deadbod's gonna
- 21:37Speaker 1: run it back. That was insane.
- 21:38Speaker 5: I wanted them to win so bad. I wanted that
- 21:40Speaker 5: kick to miss Groopie. What a leg I mean, he
- 21:43Speaker 5: gave him a chance and the kid stuff I hate,
- 21:46Speaker 5: Like it's always at like the thirty, like you need
- 21:48Speaker 5: literally eighteen yards. Nowadays, you get the ball at the
- 21:51Speaker 5: thirty five and these guys are kicking it from six.
- 21:54Speaker 3: That's so stupid. Trump was Trump was right. He said
- 21:57Speaker 3: he hates it. He said he wants them to go back,
- 22:00Speaker 3: to go back, make the offense is like do something.
- 22:02Speaker 3: It is stupid though.
- 22:03Speaker 4: Yeah, It's like you get it at the thirty five,
- 22:05Speaker 4: that's one over the middle of completion for fifteen yards
- 22:09Speaker 4: and you pick up a couple more, especially with these kickers,
- 22:11Speaker 4: Like these kickers now are banging sixty yarders like.
- 22:14Speaker 3: It's an extra point from the two yard line. It's insane.
- 22:17Speaker 1: No where you should get it. You should get it
- 22:19Speaker 1: right at your your goal line. You got to take
- 22:21Speaker 1: it in the end zone. Everything's a safety live every
- 22:23Speaker 1: single one you snap it from me, it's gotta go
- 22:25Speaker 1: a whole way.
- 22:26Speaker 4: No no touchdock like nothing that you can't you can't
- 22:29Speaker 4: get a touch back. You have to run everything up.
- 22:32Speaker 1: Just or yeah that's the case.
- 22:34Speaker 3: We're trying to take that away. Who gives it shoit?
- 22:36Speaker 1: I know, but anyway, it should be that football play.
- 22:40Speaker 3: I mean, you're literally playing football.
- 22:41Speaker 4: And I mean not to be mean, but the guys
- 22:42Speaker 4: on the kickoffs are like the least important dudes on
- 22:46Speaker 4: the team.
- 22:46Speaker 3: I mean, that's just the reality of the situation.
- 22:50Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know. Or yeah, someone said, just get
- 22:52Speaker 1: rid of field goals. You get these guys out of here.
- 22:54Speaker 1: Man just doing all this warm up shit on the
- 22:56Speaker 1: side and trying to act crazy. But by the way,
- 22:58Speaker 1: we always bring a little show love in her.
- 23:00Speaker 5: I know.
- 23:01Speaker 1: Title definitely never say, but did you tell me about
- 23:02Speaker 1: Chad Powers? Who was that you? No, you gotta watch
- 23:07Speaker 1: Chad Powers. It's six thirty minute episodes. It's like Eli
- 23:10Speaker 1: Manning produced and it's hilarious and it's like a Hulu show.
- 23:14Speaker 1: But it's very similar to like Ted Lasso and U.
- 23:18Speaker 1: It's a it's a football story though it's about a quarterback,
- 23:20Speaker 1: like a college for quarterback.
- 23:21Speaker 4: All my free time on the TV right now is
- 23:23Speaker 4: dedicated to Tulsa King, So well Man's getting Yeah, Well,
- 23:27Speaker 4: I'm just waiting for that to finish up the season
- 23:30Speaker 4: so I can watch them all at once.
- 23:32Speaker 1: All right, it was good though people got it still
- 23:34Speaker 1: take you three hours to watch it. I watched it
- 23:35Speaker 1: all one day. But yeah, anyway, and Trevor lad that.
- 23:40Speaker 4: Is one of the more impressive things that you actually
- 23:42Speaker 4: watch TV shows, because I mean you are NonStop grinding working,
- 23:45Speaker 4: like doing shit like I will like you you don't sleep,
- 23:48Speaker 4: do it?
- 23:49Speaker 1: I do?
- 23:49Speaker 3: Oh? Yeah?
- 23:50Speaker 1: I mean my goal for twenty.
- 23:51Speaker 4: Tw very he must be very very efficient with your time,
- 23:56Speaker 4: like very like.
- 23:58Speaker 1: You know me who partners and you know about how
- 24:02Speaker 1: efficient I am with my time. Yeah, that's exactly it.
- 24:04Speaker 3: Man.
- 24:05Speaker 1: We're grinded always. We love it. Where do we leave
- 24:07Speaker 1: this off the running backs? I just want to add
- 24:10Speaker 1: to titles point there. Yeah, that's actually pretty interesting because
- 24:13Speaker 1: right now you still do see Warren higher owned. But
- 24:16Speaker 1: when people start to be like, oh, it's a bigger
- 24:18Speaker 1: price tag, big boy price tag and all gain well
- 24:20Speaker 1: kind of this and what if this on Jalen Warre
- 24:23Speaker 1: And I mean he's still the books, aren't that scared
- 24:25Speaker 1: of him? Like the props are still out there, they're
- 24:27Speaker 1: leaving them. Sit you go bet as unders if you
- 24:29Speaker 1: don't like a spot here, so it could be something
- 24:32Speaker 1: where you end up seeing. From a game theory perspective,
- 24:34Speaker 1: I still like gain well more, but I think it
- 24:36Speaker 1: is interesting now that if Warren Moon walks back, you
- 24:39Speaker 1: gotta pay two grand for it, but you can't. Right,
- 24:42Speaker 1: there's opportunity here, So I think that's the other interesting
- 24:44Speaker 1: side of it. Nothing else for me at the running
- 24:47Speaker 1: back hoops, I'll let you take it to wide receiver.
- 24:49Speaker 1: We mentioned Waddle Metcalf. I think we were talking captains. Both
- 24:53Speaker 1: those guys are interesting up top, and I know we
- 24:55Speaker 1: already hit on captain, but that would be my takeaway
- 24:57Speaker 1: there the Steelers side, I mean, really both these super muddy.
- 25:02Speaker 1: After literally after wide receiver one, you're like, Okay, do
- 25:06Speaker 1: I really want my league wa wash to do I
- 25:07Speaker 1: really want Calvin Austin. It's cetera. But I think there's
- 25:10Speaker 1: differences between them. What do you think?
- 25:12Speaker 4: Well, I think the main thing is, like the after
- 25:15Speaker 4: wide receiver one, the best pass catchers are probably tight
- 25:19Speaker 4: ends which will get to next and there's like a
- 25:20Speaker 4: lot of tight ends that are viable. So these guys
- 25:23Speaker 4: are on paper, you know, wide receiver two and three,
- 25:26Speaker 4: But really there are options like four and five in
- 25:31Speaker 4: the offense. So you know, Wattele is great, good play.
- 25:35Speaker 4: I shouldn't say great, he's a good play. Dk Metcalf
- 25:38Speaker 4: good price tag ninety four, sylid play. Malik Washington, I
- 25:42Speaker 4: think is fine, and then it gets it gets kind
- 25:45Speaker 4: of ugly. Calvin Austin thirty eight hundred, definitely gonna play
- 25:48Speaker 4: him like Adam Thielen.
- 25:50Speaker 3: I can't get.
- 25:51Speaker 4: Excited to play freaking Adam Thielen mvs. Definitely not Westbrook Kakine,
- 25:58Speaker 4: Cedric Wilson.
- 25:59Speaker 3: It just gets ugly. And yeah, again, if.
- 26:02Speaker 4: You're playing one hundred and fifty lineups, then yeah, keep
- 26:05Speaker 4: these guys in.
- 26:05Speaker 3: But I would be very cautious with you know how
- 26:08Speaker 3: much I get at these guys.
- 26:09Speaker 4: The tight ends really to me are options you know,
- 26:13Speaker 4: two and three and on almost both sides, which we'll
- 26:15Speaker 4: talk about next. So outside of the obvious guys like
- 26:19Speaker 4: Wattle and Metcalf, you know, there's the next tier. I
- 26:21Speaker 4: think it's like just Malik and Calvin Austin who I trust,
- 26:25Speaker 4: and then it's just you know, throwing throwing scraps out.
- 26:28Speaker 4: If you are playing Aaron Rodgers teams, captain teams and
- 26:31Speaker 4: the feeling and MBS become a little more playable, but.
- 26:36Speaker 3: It's it's ugly after those main guys.
- 26:39Speaker 1: Yeah, we got to welcome in our man Ricky Rose.
- 26:41Speaker 1: I just saw him in the welcome chat in the
- 26:42Speaker 1: discord and say what zapp he said? Just want to
- 26:44Speaker 1: say I'm really glad to be a partnership in Nation.
- 26:46Speaker 1: The sims are really great and the videos are so helpful.
- 26:48Speaker 1: Now I'm hoping it pays off. Yeah, I'd love to
- 26:50Speaker 1: see it. A lot of people paid off a lot
- 26:52Speaker 1: of things over this weekend, so it's another another big
- 26:54Speaker 1: weekend across all sports. We love to see that and
- 26:57Speaker 1: some really big rois like nine bucks into sixteen hundred dollars,
- 27:00Speaker 1: like just massive, massive returns on those things. You know,
- 27:03Speaker 1: a couple hundred bucks into twenty five thousand, a single
- 27:06Speaker 1: bullet last night for four hundred bucks into fifty thousand.
- 27:10Speaker 1: We saw, like just a ton of a ton of
- 27:11Speaker 1: big stuff. Nates is getting so hyped up over Riley
- 27:14Speaker 1: Patterson in the chat. We'll get to the kickers, Dads,
- 27:16Speaker 1: We're still a wide receiver. But title, do you got
- 27:18Speaker 1: any different thoughts here on these guys? Like man, I
- 27:21Speaker 1: love the point who keeps making and this is another
- 27:24Speaker 1: slate for it perfectly where he said it of they're
- 27:26Speaker 1: not really wide receiver too. It's like Kenneth Ganwell is
- 27:29Speaker 1: the wide receiver too, Darnel Washington or one of those
- 27:31Speaker 1: tight ends is the wide receiver two or three ab like,
- 27:34Speaker 1: it's not really gonna be any of these guys until
- 27:37Speaker 1: it is, of course, But you know Calvin Austin, Adam
- 27:40Speaker 1: feel and Valdez Scantling like what are these guys doing here?
- 27:43Speaker 1: And then take us to the dolphins after that?
- 27:46Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, you guys said it best, like looking
- 27:48Speaker 5: at props, it's crazy. The only receivers outside of Wadle
- 27:51Speaker 5: Metcalf that are listed is Malik Washington and John and
- 27:56Speaker 5: Kelvin Austin, like there's adulta friar and with John who like,
- 28:00Speaker 5: these guys are irrelevant outside of Wattle and dk Leake.
- 28:04Speaker 5: Washington would be my favorite, but he's fifty eight hundred.
- 28:07Speaker 5: He hasn't done shit all year. I've tried to make
- 28:09Speaker 5: it work and showdown stuff. Gadget guy like he just
- 28:12Speaker 5: he's irrelevant. It's a Cham, it's Wattle, and it's Well
- 28:16Speaker 5: the Oli Gordon stuff, and then it's the tight ends
- 28:19Speaker 5: on the Pittsburgh stuff. Yeah, like Austin Scantling, Adam Feeling.
- 28:23Speaker 5: I think if I had to pick one, I think
- 28:25Speaker 5: I'll just go Scantling Rogers. I mean you can go
- 28:28Speaker 5: all the way back Rogers and Scantling back in Green Bay,
- 28:30Speaker 5: and he just spreads the field. He can run fast,
- 28:34Speaker 5: he can run straight. Rodgers can take a shot sometimes.
- 28:37Speaker 5: Rodgers is the analytical nine where third and nine he'll
- 28:41Speaker 5: bomb a sixty yard pass because it's like a punt
- 28:43Speaker 5: if it doesn't work that way, which I always like,
- 28:45Speaker 5: give your guy a chance. Maybe Scantling that's him. I
- 28:48Speaker 5: mean you're not gonna see Adam Feeling running go routes
- 28:51Speaker 5: and stuff fast. So sure, if I had to say one,
- 28:54Speaker 5: I guess Scantling. I will not have much of anybody
- 28:57Speaker 5: outside of Wattle Metcalf, a little.
- 28:59Speaker 3: Bit of Washington. Then I'll just be mixed in. And
- 29:02Speaker 3: that's in.
- 29:02Speaker 5: Like you play any of these guys, that's like, that's
- 29:05Speaker 5: what gets you different in your teams.
- 29:07Speaker 3: Chalk chalk, chalk.
- 29:08Speaker 5: Play one of the receivers, hope they get you six
- 29:10Speaker 5: or seven, and maybe that's enough.
- 29:12Speaker 3: They're all going to be low owned.
- 29:13Speaker 1: Man I'm just waiting to see Rogers run up to
- 29:16Speaker 1: feel in the two old boys running up and say
- 29:19Speaker 1: what's up after a touchdown. I did read this article
- 29:22Speaker 1: and I went to find it again here today doing
- 29:24Speaker 1: some research, and it said Adam Thielen will be more
- 29:28Speaker 1: involved in the passing game. DK metcalf and Rogers praised
- 29:31Speaker 1: him for working late to get ready for the game.
- 29:33Speaker 1: Last week. He logged half the Snaps already had an opportunity,
- 29:37Speaker 1: had a touchdown and said that they think you'll see
- 29:40Speaker 1: them more involved in this game. He was wide open
- 29:44Speaker 1: for a touchdown on the throw that just missed him
- 29:45Speaker 1: their last game, so he said. They said he got
- 29:48Speaker 1: a crash course last week, played the twenty five Snaps
- 29:51Speaker 1: and ready to go. So said they won't need as
- 29:54Speaker 1: much to get ready for this game against the Dolphins.
- 29:56Speaker 1: So maybe they're expecting to use him more hoop. But
- 29:59Speaker 1: anything else you want to add there to it, Dennying,
- 30:01Speaker 1: We've said I don't have anything else here. If not,
- 30:03Speaker 1: you can take us to the tight ends.
- 30:04Speaker 4: I mean, just imagine you're almost done with the NFL season,
- 30:09Speaker 4: a few games left, and you're making a push to
- 30:11Speaker 4: the playoffs, and you are banking on mid thirties white
- 30:19Speaker 4: dude at wide receiver to help you get over the
- 30:22Speaker 4: hump into the playoffs. Like, come on now, like that
- 30:25Speaker 4: just shows like how awful of an organization the Steelers are,
- 30:29Speaker 4: Adam Thielen, like it is now going to be a
- 30:32Speaker 4: big part of your offense.
- 30:33Speaker 5: Just or how that division. I mean, these guys are
- 30:36Speaker 5: sitting up top exactly. I mean that's embarrassing for everyone
- 30:41Speaker 5: else that is is in that division.
- 30:43Speaker 1: For It's embarrassing for the Ravens most certainly because the
- 30:47Speaker 1: biggest opportunity that they've left on the table, they should
- 30:49Speaker 1: be up five games if they wanted to be. It
- 30:51Speaker 1: feels like they could be. But horrible, horrible season for them.
- 30:54Speaker 3: Yeah, so bad. So yeah.
- 30:56Speaker 4: We kind of touched on the tight ends a little
- 30:57Speaker 4: bit where it seems like they are the wide receiver
- 31:00Speaker 4: twos in most cases on these teams definitely prefer the
- 31:04Speaker 4: Miami side. Like Darren Maller, we already talked about it. Fine,
- 31:09Speaker 4: playing him up top. I think he's got multiple touchdown
- 31:11Speaker 4: off side. It's a great price. But I also really
- 31:14Speaker 4: like Dulsicic, Like he's out there, they're using them. He
- 31:17Speaker 4: gets the ball he's aggressive with it only sixteen hundred.
- 31:21Speaker 4: I think he's a great option on the slate. So
- 31:23Speaker 4: those two, for sure, I think are great plays. You
- 31:26Speaker 4: go to the Pittsburgh side. We always talk about it
- 31:29Speaker 4: with Darnell Washington. I mean, there's just something to be
- 31:31Speaker 4: said where they can just give it to this guy
- 31:34Speaker 4: outside and then he just runs dudes over for like
- 31:36Speaker 4: thirty yards. Like there's not many guys in the NFL
- 31:39Speaker 4: that can just run multiple guys over and go for
- 31:42Speaker 4: forty yards. Thirty yards at his size and at twenty
- 31:45Speaker 4: six hundred, just takes one of those plays, and if
- 31:48Speaker 4: he happens to score a touchdown on.
- 31:50Speaker 3: It, you're gonna need his ass. So I think he's
- 31:52Speaker 3: a great play.
- 31:53Speaker 4: Friar Mouth will randomly pop up with the touchdowns and
- 31:57Speaker 4: then maybe some some John new Smith, but just kind
- 31:59Speaker 4: of ranking these guys, it would be Waller, Dulcich, Washington,
- 32:04Speaker 4: and then prior probably Fire. But I definitely prefer the
- 32:07Speaker 4: Miami guys here and I like them quite a bit.
- 32:10Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll say more in a second. This was true.
- 32:12Speaker 1: Nick brought this up, and Philip Rivers can throw a
- 32:14Speaker 1: touchdown on twenty twenty five feeling can catch one from
- 32:17Speaker 1: a rod. And this is another thing, like fire these
- 32:19Speaker 1: seahawks right into the sun if you can't. I mean,
- 32:22Speaker 1: JSN had two targets until there was two minutes left
- 32:25Speaker 1: in the second quarter, Like that guy should have ten
- 32:27Speaker 1: targets by half if you have to, like if that's
- 32:30Speaker 1: the type of game you're playing, because it just was
- 32:32Speaker 1: brutal to watch, you know, some of these teams and
- 32:34Speaker 1: then the other like or hate on them even though
- 32:37Speaker 1: they're my favorite team. Like, let's get twenty five from Henry,
- 32:41Speaker 1: another twenty two, and as soon as we cross the half,
- 32:44Speaker 1: let's just not give them the ball anymore. I know
- 32:45Speaker 1: it's working to the two to twenty five yards apiece,
- 32:48Speaker 1: but let's just shut it down and see what Lamar
- 32:49Speaker 1: can do. And these shitty little chip passes to guys
- 32:52Speaker 1: like these teams just drive me up the wall when
- 32:54Speaker 1: you're watching it from a fan perspective and fantasy perspective,
- 32:57Speaker 1: some absolutely brutal stuff. Third and eight. Let's give two
- 33:00Speaker 1: two at well, who's got to be like five eight
- 33:02Speaker 1: a shot here instead of just throwing it to Puka,
- 33:05Speaker 1: who gets on forth gets them no problem. It's like,
- 33:08Speaker 1: why don't you just try that to play before and
- 33:09Speaker 1: move it along like just brutal stuff. This is some
- 33:13Speaker 1: roulette down here title for sure, because every lineup that
- 33:16Speaker 1: fits friar Mouth, it's twenty eight hundred for John who
- 33:18Speaker 1: it's twenty six hundred for Washington. Washington because of the
- 33:22Speaker 1: fact that he can just sort of what we talked about,
- 33:24Speaker 1: just Darnell Smashington just walk over these guys. His prop
- 33:28Speaker 1: gets boosted up now because it's like, if he gets
- 33:30Speaker 1: the ball in motion, you might have to add eight
- 33:32Speaker 1: more to that, ten more to that whatever it is.
- 33:34Speaker 1: I think he's like almost twenty three yards receiving versus
- 33:37Speaker 1: these other guys much lower, but they're almost all the
- 33:40Speaker 1: same price. We literally watched a game earlier this season
- 33:42Speaker 1: where they all were involved until it was like who's
- 33:45Speaker 1: gonna break out in the end, it ended up being
- 33:47Speaker 1: friar Mooth. So what's your thoughts on the Steelers tight
- 33:49Speaker 1: end room? And then Waller versus Adultchis is also interesting
- 33:52Speaker 1: just because the price difference.
- 33:54Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean I want all these tight ends if
- 33:56Speaker 5: I could be overweight to all five of them, Washington, Waller, Doultchis, Frider,
- 34:00Speaker 5: John U perfect And that's why I'm playing none of
- 34:02Speaker 5: these receiving rooms. These tight These teams like to play
- 34:05Speaker 5: multiple tight ends. They use their tight ends a lot.
- 34:07Speaker 5: Rodgers has always liked his tight ends. Dolts has been
- 34:10Speaker 5: solid for him as of late. Waller's a great red
- 34:13Speaker 5: zone target. Like we're looking at these touchdown props. We
- 34:16Speaker 5: always talk they're inflated. But plus two to fifty five
- 34:19Speaker 5: wall or plus three ninety Washington plus four to fifty
- 34:21Speaker 5: five and with plus four to fifty plus five to
- 34:24Speaker 5: fifty Dulchic the receivers plus eight hundred Mbs plus eight
- 34:27Speaker 5: hundred deal In, whereas it plus seventeen hundred Nick Westbrookikine
- 34:32Speaker 5: like Kelvin Austin plus five hundred. I just give me
- 34:34Speaker 5: all these tight ends and they're on the same price range,
- 34:37Speaker 5: and they're gonna be on the field like they can easily.
- 34:39Speaker 5: You can leave money a lot easier when playing them,
- 34:42Speaker 5: in my opinion, because they have forty yard upset and
- 34:45Speaker 5: touchdown that's eleven twelve points. Maybe that can outscore the
- 34:48Speaker 5: kickers or the defenses. We'll get to them in a
- 34:50Speaker 5: little bit. But if you drop from the kickers to
- 34:53Speaker 5: one of these tight ends and they outscore, you could
- 34:55Speaker 5: be looking at a lot, a lot less dupes. I'm
- 34:57Speaker 5: not going to pretend I really have Allen. I think
- 34:59Speaker 5: it's Darnell Waller is my favorites. But I'm just gonna
- 35:03Speaker 5: be mixing the matching and playing a bunch of them.
- 35:05Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's the way to handle it. And
- 35:09Speaker 1: where's this one? Nick said his four tight ends too many?
- 35:11Speaker 1: Here's the thing about tight ends in a good matchup yesterday,
- 35:14Speaker 1: just you can go right back to Baltimore and Cincinnati
- 35:16Speaker 1: and tell me how many tight ends were too many?
- 35:18Speaker 1: The answer was one. And I know I played two
- 35:21Speaker 1: in a lot, and you know I was getting them
- 35:23Speaker 1: back and forth against each other, and those were really
- 35:25Speaker 1: hurtful spots because I had some lineups that were like
- 35:27Speaker 1: one eighty five and one ninety on DraftKings that had
- 35:31Speaker 1: GISEKEI and likely in it or something like that to
- 35:33Speaker 1: round it out so well, they helped get those points
- 35:36Speaker 1: on the board. It would have been nice if they
- 35:37Speaker 1: actually put points on the board. I think all three.
- 35:39Speaker 1: I guess you could add in Tinsley not a tight
- 35:41Speaker 1: end at all, but just say the four cheapies within
- 35:43Speaker 1: that game, if you played all four of those guys
- 35:46Speaker 1: or three of them at a time. I think they
- 35:48Speaker 1: all four combined for like three or four catches for
- 35:50Speaker 1: thirty eight yards or something.
- 35:51Speaker 3: It was very bad.
- 35:53Speaker 1: And you know, Chad Samo, John hus Smith revenge game
- 35:56Speaker 1: maybe like well we'll see. Like again, like those types
- 35:59Speaker 1: of things, you just have no idea. And if instead
- 36:01Speaker 1: Darnel Washington is the guy that's open for it, they're
- 36:03Speaker 1: not gonna not throw it to him because John who
- 36:05Speaker 1: equals revenge. They just want to get to touchdown.
- 36:07Speaker 5: No one cares about that is I mean, if you're open,
- 36:10Speaker 5: he's getting you the ball, but you're not, and they're
- 36:12Speaker 5: not force feeding them the ball because it's a revenge. Again,
- 36:14Speaker 5: maybe there's a design play if if you believe in
- 36:16Speaker 5: that stuff, sure, but I think it's.
- 36:19Speaker 1: Also to a lot of the times. I don't know
- 36:20Speaker 1: about tonight's scenario because I again don't care about any
- 36:22Speaker 1: of this stuff or dig into it and find besides
- 36:24Speaker 1: the fun bit doing the content whatnot of like let's
- 36:27Speaker 1: look up the birthdays, have some fun with it. But really,
- 36:29Speaker 1: I like half the time people say revenge, it's not
- 36:32Speaker 1: even revenge. It's like the person wanted to go or
- 36:34Speaker 1: their contract is off. It like didn't work out, they
- 36:36Speaker 1: don't have any revenge. They went to a better spot
- 36:38Speaker 1: or a different scenario where that's the business of playing football.
- 36:41Speaker 1: So people just assume when they're against their old team
- 36:44Speaker 1: it means automatic. But there's certain scenarios in the NBA
- 36:47Speaker 1: and NFL NFL as well, where like someone did them
- 36:50Speaker 1: dirty or like didn't didn't come out the right way,
- 36:52Speaker 1: that they'll try and hammer it onto them. But in
- 36:54Speaker 1: this case, I'm not sure if that's going to be it.
- 36:56Speaker 5: So yeah, NBA we talked about all the time, but
- 36:58Speaker 5: you like you bring the ball up.
- 37:00Speaker 3: Luca brings the ball up.
- 37:01Speaker 5: If he wants to shoot, he can shoot like it's
- 37:03Speaker 5: so twenty four second shot clocked. There's so many possessions.
- 37:06Speaker 5: The NBA we talked about that does matter. Baseball means
- 37:09Speaker 5: nothing like you always try and go do it.
- 37:11Speaker 1: But that one is like Luca is gonna have good games.
- 37:14Speaker 3: Yes, there he sucked yesterday.
- 37:16Speaker 5: He had like forty one DK points against Phoenix yesterday
- 37:19Speaker 5: and so okay.
- 37:20Speaker 1: I was just gonna say they got the wind though,
- 37:21Speaker 1: So maybe that was the revenge, you know that because
- 37:24Speaker 1: he whispered each other's ears and got into some pushing
- 37:26Speaker 1: matches before the NBA is pretty soft too. Not too
- 37:28Speaker 1: much goes on there these days, like what it used to.
- 37:30Speaker 1: I can tell you that much, so you know, whatever,
- 37:33Speaker 1: we'll see. I don't know what Lebron was freaking out
- 37:35Speaker 1: about yesterday. I saw that too. He had to get
- 37:37Speaker 1: held back or whatever.
- 37:37Speaker 5: But he's starting to annoy me. I mean I've I
- 37:40Speaker 5: tried to. Yeah, I mean, welcome.
- 37:43Speaker 3: He's so terrible, man, He's just awful.
- 37:46Speaker 5: I don't Brooks like hit the ball a little bit.
- 37:48Speaker 5: It hit him and he just like the world ended
- 37:50Speaker 5: for him. It was crazy.
- 37:51Speaker 3: He's so soft, it's insane.
- 37:54Speaker 1: Yeah, I think this is funny. And I love all
- 37:56Speaker 1: these people in the chat. They're all our friends, but
- 37:58Speaker 1: it's like they get up to play some one like no,
- 38:00Speaker 1: they literally get up to win when they have to win,
- 38:03Speaker 1: like you gotta win games. And it's just it's it's
- 38:05Speaker 1: just a narrative piece when people throw oh he did
- 38:07Speaker 1: it because of this. Yeah, I know he didn't want
- 38:09Speaker 1: to have a good game. He woke up today thinking
- 38:11Speaker 1: I have a mediocre game. But since I'm playing Dylan Brooks,
- 38:13Speaker 1: I'm gonna play extra hard today and play good. It's
- 38:15Speaker 1: just I don't. I don't know. I don't believe in
- 38:17Speaker 1: any of that stuff. I don't care. Some players will
- 38:19Speaker 1: talk about it, I'm sure, and they want to do
- 38:20Speaker 1: They'll say, yeah, I was a little bit of extra
- 38:22Speaker 1: because someone didn't draft me or whatever. Yeah, that's in
- 38:25Speaker 1: their heart a little bit, in their head a little bit.
- 38:27Speaker 1: But they have a good game because they have a
- 38:29Speaker 1: good game. It's like you can't just if you could,
- 38:30Speaker 1: just if I could turn it on and win one
- 38:32Speaker 1: hundred K a day, I would just turn it on
- 38:33Speaker 1: every day and win it. It just doesn't work that way. So, uh,
- 38:37Speaker 1: you know, that's that's how it goes. But anyway, we
- 38:39Speaker 1: get to the fun part. Kickers and defenses, nids. I
- 38:43Speaker 1: gotta go back because here it is, where where's it at?
- 38:45Speaker 1: He was going crazy for this one who He did
- 38:46Speaker 1: the game log for you if you want to see Patterson,
- 38:50Speaker 1: look at that. That's pretty nice. In contrast, our Man
- 38:55Speaker 1: Boswell has actually had some bad games in there. This
- 38:58Speaker 1: is like looking at recent four in the golf in
- 39:01Speaker 1: the PGA d f S streets, like everyone's on a golfer,
- 39:04Speaker 1: But it could be the other guy who's actually been
- 39:05Speaker 1: just as good. You never know.
- 39:06Speaker 3: Here's what I want.
- 39:07Speaker 4: I don't know if anyone can find it at a time,
- 39:09Speaker 4: but Boswell in primetime games at home, like he's got
- 39:12Speaker 4: a the average has to be at least fifteen fifteen
- 39:17Speaker 4: fantasy point.
- 39:17Speaker 3: It has to be, and he's done it for if
- 39:20Speaker 3: someone can find that. I don't know if there's a.
- 39:22Speaker 4: Way too, But like Boswell fantasy points at home in
- 39:26Speaker 4: primetime games the last like five years, if you can
- 39:28Speaker 4: get me that number, I'll send you some gear.
- 39:31Speaker 3: Actually I'm sending out geared tomorrow. So the first person
- 39:33Speaker 3: that gets me the legit number on that might find it.
- 39:36Speaker 3: I don't even know what. I don't something.
- 39:40Speaker 5: I truly don't know where i'd even start to find it,
- 39:42Speaker 5: but someone might try to find I mean, Prussia is
- 39:46Speaker 5: in the spots, so yeah, I mean I'm fink of
- 39:49Speaker 5: Patterson too.
- 39:50Speaker 4: I think that the kickers are firmly in play here tonight,
- 39:54Speaker 4: both solid options. Patterson Boswell needs did the work and
- 39:58Speaker 4: got the game game log numbers, and they're they're big,
- 40:02Speaker 4: and I think he can have success here tonight. The
- 40:04Speaker 4: defense is it's gonna.
- 40:05Speaker 3: Be just, you know whatever for me.
- 40:07Speaker 4: If I get some, I get some. I'm not going
- 40:08Speaker 4: to really prioritize it. But Kickers definitely like the Kickers
- 40:11Speaker 4: a lot here.
- 40:12Speaker 1: Yeah, No, I can't. I don't know someone will find
- 40:14Speaker 1: it though, I'm sure.
- 40:16Speaker 3: I mean saying over the years, not just this year.
- 40:18Speaker 5: You're saying, like his whole tea just like come back,
- 40:20Speaker 5: like the last five six seven years, Like at home
- 40:23Speaker 5: in prime time, the dude just smashes.
- 40:25Speaker 1: He always did, six seven, six seven. I don't know
- 40:30Speaker 1: someone will find it, I'm sure, but yeah, I think
- 40:32Speaker 1: it's just interesting to say. It's like when, like you said,
- 40:35Speaker 1: at home too, and and the possibility of it all.
- 40:37Speaker 1: But he's obviously projecting well for that reason. But it
- 40:40Speaker 1: is interesting to Nay's point that, y, if you think
- 40:42Speaker 1: about like two A sucks for all the stuff that
- 40:44Speaker 1: people say, how much do they actually be about it
- 40:47Speaker 1: or relate it back to playing dfs because everyone says tonight, oh,
- 40:50Speaker 1: if I'm gonna move off a chan or they say
- 40:52Speaker 1: if I'm gonna think that two A sucks in cold weather, well,
- 40:55Speaker 1: then aren't you going to say that? All those things
- 40:57Speaker 1: could lead to like stalled drives, which could lead to
- 40:59Speaker 1: Riley patterson Field goals, which could lead to Riley Patterson Captain.
- 41:03Speaker 1: So my tegaway would be it is at least somewhat
- 41:05Speaker 1: interesting to Tonaed's for an ads to bring that up.
- 41:08Speaker 1: I think that's the way you could look at it.
- 41:09Speaker 1: I don't know exactly what those builds look like. I
- 41:12Speaker 1: was gonna add I forgot to add this. I'll just
- 41:14Speaker 1: circle back because I have nothing else at Kickers and D's.
- 41:16Speaker 1: I think you know same for all but the a
- 41:19Speaker 1: Chan Dulchic lineup where it's like a two to four
- 41:23Speaker 1: allows you to kind of just fill it out with
- 41:25Speaker 1: something very chalky, of like the exact Steelers that you
- 41:27Speaker 1: would probably want. If you go a Chan with Waller
- 41:31Speaker 1: or flip it around something a Waller Captain with a
- 41:33Speaker 1: Chan and the flex and whatever, a three to three
- 41:35Speaker 1: with Tua, you end up with quite a different build,
- 41:37Speaker 1: even though it projects very similar. And I think you
- 41:40Speaker 1: could end up with less dupes in some scenarios like that,
- 41:42Speaker 1: because people are just going off with the props with
- 41:44Speaker 1: Washington Dultchic, seeing those guys have big receiving lines and
- 41:48Speaker 1: that they make everything else work. So just looking at
- 41:50Speaker 1: it from a build perspective, I think there's some different
- 41:52Speaker 1: ways that you can do it with looking at it
- 41:54Speaker 1: that way, so hopefully some Philly fantoms got something there.
- 41:58Speaker 1: He probably used CHADGBT and this what it told him
- 42:00Speaker 1: one hundred and sixty two. Give it go. Prompt it
- 42:03Speaker 1: again Philly and say break this out over the sample
- 42:06Speaker 1: size to see miss.
- 42:08Speaker 5: I think mister Reichlander's he's getting close climb yeah, oh ross, Yeah,
- 42:14Speaker 5: I think he's getting caught closer.
- 42:17Speaker 1: Primetime is sort of hard to find. Seventeen eight basically
- 42:21Speaker 1: say big.
- 42:22Speaker 3: He's had some very big boy games. I know for
- 42:24Speaker 3: a fact. I mean he's smashed in the spot.
- 42:29Speaker 1: Nice look at this too. Ad a little added bonus
- 42:31Speaker 1: stat he's also had five solo tackles in one.
- 42:34Speaker 3: Mean, if we can find that shit out, then we
- 42:35Speaker 3: definitely should be able to get the field goal.
- 42:37Speaker 1: Numbers against Green Bay four for four with three fifty yarders.
- 42:46Speaker 1: Those are all touchdowns. So yeah, all right, let's do this.
- 42:50Speaker 1: Let's look at it FanDuel because it is somewhat interesting today.
- 42:53Speaker 1: There's there's quite a few differences, like Wattle is ten
- 42:56Speaker 1: to eight on DraftKings Hoop, but he's ninety eight hundred
- 43:00Speaker 1: on FanDuel versus DK metcalf is ninety four hundred on DraftKings,
- 43:06Speaker 1: much less, fourteen hundred less than Wattle. He is twelve
- 43:09Speaker 1: six on FanDuel. It's like complete opposite guys, complete opposite guys.
- 43:13Speaker 1: It's DK up and Waddle down. And that's just one example.
- 43:16Speaker 1: But anything else you're seeing stands out.
- 43:21Speaker 3: As a serious because they had Ben Roethlis. There is
- 43:26Speaker 3: no correlation there.
- 43:29Speaker 4: Yeah, Jalen Wattle way cheaper, like you said, oh yeah,
- 43:32Speaker 4: so they kind of flipped where DK metcalf is very
- 43:36Speaker 4: much more expensive than bottles cheap.
- 43:39Speaker 1: It's really the heelers do because Calvin Austin is thirty
- 43:42Speaker 1: eight hundred Undraftkings, but.
- 43:44Speaker 4: He's he's six hundred FanDuel. Wow, that's a big. That's
- 43:47Speaker 4: a big Jalen Wright seventy four hundred, Ali Gordon fifty eight.
- 43:52Speaker 4: So they did the same thing.
- 43:54Speaker 3: Ever since mac Jones, they're not going to take that
- 43:57Speaker 3: chance again. Yeah, So, I mean those dudes are definitely
- 44:01Speaker 3: out of play.
- 44:02Speaker 4: Even Dulcic is forty four hundred, so he's got a
- 44:05Speaker 4: pretty substantial price that I'm fandom. I don't know, it's
- 44:07Speaker 4: probably another slate where uh, probably a harder roster construction
- 44:12Speaker 4: on FanDuel then on DK because of these increased prices.
- 44:17Speaker 1: That's what I'm wondering. Title. Do you see anything else there?
- 44:19Speaker 1: Like I was looking at some of it, but I
- 44:20Speaker 1: just from are.
- 44:22Speaker 3: He's averaging nine and a half the game. That's that's
- 44:24Speaker 3: good for a I mean, that's that's solid for a kicker.
- 44:28Speaker 3: I mean the nine point three three last five. Oh,
- 44:32Speaker 3: he got the exact number, last five.
- 44:35Speaker 1: He did the math more.
- 44:36Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, there's well home one hundred and twelve. Yeah,
- 44:41Speaker 3: so I mean nine and a half is the legit number.
- 44:42Speaker 3: And there's there's some there's some big boys sports in
- 44:45Speaker 3: their team. I guarantee it.
- 44:47Speaker 1: Yeah, well that's the thing, right, And then Ben King
- 44:49Speaker 1: said he said nine point one he was close to.
- 44:51Speaker 1: So yeah, chat GBT got us covered. Can you send
- 44:55Speaker 1: chat GBT some gear or do you want to send
- 44:57Speaker 1: Langley some gear?
- 44:58Speaker 3: Yeah?
- 44:58Speaker 4: Yeah, Langley can hit us up. Well, hit up the
- 45:02Speaker 4: info at ship at nation. We'll get you, get you
- 45:04Speaker 4: something sent up.
- 45:05Speaker 1: Langley c let us know. So all right, let's let's
- 45:08Speaker 1: keep it rolling.
- 45:09Speaker 2: Then.
- 45:10Speaker 1: I don't see anything else too crazy, I think, Darna.
- 45:13Speaker 1: I think it was just all the Steelers kind of
- 45:15Speaker 1: got the boost, except Theelan went down, right. Thelan goes
- 45:18Speaker 1: down from thirty two hundred to twenty four hundred, probably
- 45:20Speaker 1: for good reason. I'm just saying, you know, gain Well
- 45:22Speaker 1: up to eighty eight hundred, Warren up to ten six.
- 45:25Speaker 1: Those aren't really drastic because the fact that there, you know,
- 45:27Speaker 1: there's ten grand more that you can spend. Rogers went
- 45:30Speaker 1: up a couple thousand, that's about right, but it was
- 45:32Speaker 1: the Metcalf one was huge. The Calvin Austin the third
- 45:35Speaker 1: was huge. Washington kind of went up, but really it's
- 45:38Speaker 1: friar mooth. Friar Mooth went from three thousand up to
- 45:40Speaker 1: fifty four hundred. I guess it's in line with Washington's
- 45:43Speaker 1: twenty six hundred and forty eight, but not much cheaper there. Waller, though,
- 45:47Speaker 1: on the other side, was where they kind of gave
- 45:49Speaker 1: the Wattle money to. It looks like because they've got
- 45:52Speaker 1: Waller at seven k as opposed to forty four hundred
- 45:55Speaker 1: on DraftKings, but Wattle dropped from ten eight on DraftKings
- 45:59Speaker 1: to ninety eight on FanDuel A Chan goes up a
- 46:01Speaker 1: little bit, Twoa goes up a little bit. I don't
- 46:03Speaker 1: know title anything else.
- 46:04Speaker 5: You see, Yeah, the tight ends, they definitely raise Scantling's
- 46:07Speaker 5: all the way down at mid price one k. He
- 46:09Speaker 5: will be much more popular over there, especially with how
- 46:12Speaker 5: high price chan Metcalf. All that stuff is a one
- 46:15Speaker 5: k stone min punt gets you a little bit. Julian
- 46:18Speaker 5: Hill as well. We didn't really touch on him on
- 46:20Speaker 5: DraftKings because I mean has somewhat of a real price
- 46:23Speaker 5: take at one point four k, and the other tight
- 46:26Speaker 5: ends and stuff are cheap enough and close enough in
- 46:28Speaker 5: his price range him at stone min one k though again,
- 46:31Speaker 5: John who's two point ak more adultish, is way more
- 46:35Speaker 5: and people will definitely be playing these one k guys
- 46:37Speaker 5: with how the pricing sets up. Other than that, I mean,
- 46:41Speaker 5: kickers like same as draftking kickers will be a lot
- 46:44Speaker 5: higher own than the defenses. So that's a pivot right
- 46:47Speaker 5: there if you want. But yeah, the main thing, like
- 46:49Speaker 5: you mentioned, the DK Metcalf, but Scantling on Fando will
- 46:52Speaker 5: be much more popular.
- 46:54Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess we didn't spend a ton of time
- 46:56Speaker 1: on defense itself because it's your most hated spot. But
- 47:00Speaker 1: is there a chance tonight you just see both these
- 47:02Speaker 1: teams stall out heavy and just play horrible, and it's
- 47:05Speaker 1: like any either d is really involved. Is there something
- 47:08Speaker 1: you can see where that's happening.
- 47:10Speaker 4: I could see that sort of game for sure. I mean,
- 47:13Speaker 4: just make sure you're building your entire team to kind
- 47:16Speaker 4: of correlate to that sort of game type I would say.
- 47:19Speaker 4: But yeah, I think it's definitely in the cards tonight.
- 47:22Speaker 3: You guys hear about t J. Watt, which is.
- 47:27Speaker 5: His uh he got to collapse long from dry New
- 47:32Speaker 5: like his own Yeah, the Steelers, Like, I mean, imagine
- 47:35Speaker 5: being that guy, the head of the acupuncture whatever, giving
- 47:38Speaker 5: your own star player.
- 47:40Speaker 3: A collapse along.
- 47:41Speaker 1: I mean, I doubt anymore.
- 47:43Speaker 3: That's what I was gonna say. Is he still in
- 47:45Speaker 3: the building.
- 47:46Speaker 1: Didn't happen Taylor with the Chargers too? Similar?
- 47:50Speaker 2: Yeah?
- 47:50Speaker 3: What was that they injected? Didn't get an injection or something.
- 47:54Speaker 1: And the like, but they went into his yeah instead
- 47:59Speaker 1: of wherever they were trying it?
- 48:00Speaker 3: Crazy, Yeah, all over it?
- 48:03Speaker 2: Yes, that is it.
- 48:05Speaker 3: Yeah. I wonder if he's in the building or not,
- 48:07Speaker 3: And I guess it's probably not. I can't imagine.
- 48:10Speaker 1: And now they are one and ten without him. Someone
- 48:13Speaker 1: said it earlier. I think it was Tyler mentioned it.
- 48:15Speaker 1: Tyler Hicks is like it's going to break tonight because
- 48:17Speaker 1: two is zero and four oh and five whatever it
- 48:19Speaker 1: is with a certain degrees that you got to know that.
- 48:22Speaker 1: And then you've got one and ten on the other side.
- 48:24Speaker 1: But then you also have Tomlin has a twenty two
- 48:27Speaker 1: game winning streak. I don't even know if that's still.
- 48:29Speaker 3: Is that real?
- 48:29Speaker 1: Still? I knew he did have that for a while,
- 48:31Speaker 1: but Tomlin, uh, Monday Night football wins streak? Is it?
- 48:36Speaker 3: What is it?
- 48:38Speaker 1: Yeah? Tomlin? The Steelers have won twenty two consecutive home
- 48:42Speaker 1: games on Monday Night football.
- 48:44Speaker 3: Because of Boswell Boswell Field goals.
- 48:47Speaker 1: Because because bosbell Field goals. Damn.
- 48:49Speaker 3: But what do you think the the AFC North odds
- 48:53Speaker 3: are for Steelers and the Ravens.
- 48:55Speaker 1: I know it should be favored to the.
- 48:59Speaker 5: H five, but I mean they were like minus two
- 49:01Speaker 5: to fifty minus three hundred not too long ago.
- 49:03Speaker 1: So well, the Ravens just got a big boost. I mean,
- 49:06Speaker 1: you normally have the survivor thing right up ready to go.
- 49:08Speaker 1: I'll pull up something just to look at it quickly,
- 49:10Speaker 1: just to see. But week seventeen I was and it's still.
- 49:15Speaker 1: They can lose it, for sure, but I did not
- 49:17Speaker 1: want to go into green Bay. But now with Mika
- 49:20Speaker 1: Parsons and the ACL it's unfortunate. Like I just talked
- 49:22Speaker 1: about this earlier about the from real life perspective, that sucks.
- 49:25Speaker 1: I hate to see that. But I'm just saying from
- 49:27Speaker 1: a fan perspective for the Ravens might have got a
- 49:29Speaker 1: little bit easier. And Pittsburgh and New England are both
- 49:34Speaker 1: scary because the division and what's going to matter. But
- 49:36Speaker 1: of course we play Pittsburgh in Week eighteen, so it's
- 49:39Speaker 1: gonna be pretty wild down the stretch for those Ravens.
- 49:42Speaker 1: But it's you know, I still think the Ravens pull
- 49:44Speaker 1: out and get the job done.
- 49:46Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, man, it's been brutal for the pac
- 49:47Speaker 5: Tucker Craft and aw Micah Parsons with ACLS is that's
- 49:51Speaker 5: no bueno.
- 49:52Speaker 1: Yeah, it sucks, man, Just hate it, like just man,
- 49:55Speaker 1: like the worst injury too, Just like, well, there's tons
- 49:58Speaker 1: of bad injuries, but like it's the worst to recover
- 49:59Speaker 1: from these guys. It's different, right when you're a professional athlete,
- 50:02Speaker 1: you're going in for the surgery the next day, which
- 50:04Speaker 1: is the best, versus someone who has to sit at
- 50:06Speaker 1: home and wait for a cadaver, wait for you know,
- 50:09Speaker 1: timelines of whatever your your country's health policies are. You
- 50:13Speaker 1: gotta wait to get it done. But you know, it's
- 50:16Speaker 1: still a terrible recovery to go through all that stuff
- 50:18Speaker 1: and get back to it. And just the older you are,
- 50:20Speaker 1: the longer you've been playing, obviously the tougher it is.
- 50:22Speaker 1: So just brutal stuff when you see that stuff happen. Yeah,
- 50:27Speaker 1: what else do we got here? What did someone say
- 50:29Speaker 1: about the Titans for Survivor? This week should be a
- 50:32Speaker 1: wild sweat? What's what's that one? What do we got
- 50:34Speaker 1: this week?
- 50:35Speaker 3: I don't know. I was just looking. They have the Chiefs,
- 50:40Speaker 3: Oh my god, I don't know the Chiefs are still favored,
- 50:43Speaker 3: but I think like three and a half.
- 50:45Speaker 1: But you did see that there's there's a it was
- 50:49Speaker 1: it came out last night. Now I know they're talking
- 50:50Speaker 1: about so the in circa there's a guy left.
- 50:53Speaker 5: And I saw that Cowboys, Cowboys and Chiefs and you
- 50:57Speaker 5: have to play a Christmas Day slate.
- 50:58Speaker 3: So yeah, he's gonna a dog one out of ten left?
- 51:01Speaker 3: That's brutal? Is that what he So? It's not going
- 51:04Speaker 3: to get chopped till after that, if, if at all?
- 51:06Speaker 1: What do you do so go with Minshew and just
- 51:08Speaker 1: run the Minshew mania and hope it hits. They're still favorites.
- 51:12Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I don't know.
- 51:13Speaker 5: Whatever the odds gives you the best chance, I guess,
- 51:17Speaker 5: but we saw it on Thanksgiving, like you, NFL is
- 51:21Speaker 5: a crazy week. I mean, he could solo ship that
- 51:23Speaker 5: puppy with not making a mistake but getting unlucky just
- 51:28Speaker 5: because how the how the NFL goes so tilting man
- 51:31Speaker 5: looking at that runout, it would have been the nut.
- 51:33Speaker 5: I mean because they had the Chiefs lose the week
- 51:35Speaker 5: seventeen or week sixteen, so it's Buffalo Houston noe as
- 51:39Speaker 5: Houston River was a cruel game.
- 51:42Speaker 3: Really is wild?
- 51:45Speaker 2: All right?
- 51:45Speaker 1: Anything else? Title? You got anything else you want to
- 51:47Speaker 1: add here before we get out of here.
- 51:49Speaker 3: No.
- 51:49Speaker 5: I think the more we went through the more I
- 51:51Speaker 5: like it a little bit. I mean, I hope you
- 51:53Speaker 5: picked the right one. Two three tight ends on the
- 51:56Speaker 5: slate is I think what it comes down to.
- 51:58Speaker 1: Yep, I agree, it's somebody can be mad with. I
- 52:01Speaker 1: don't hear like one b ones of Washington versus friar
- 52:04Speaker 1: Mouth versus Smith. It's gonna suck, but you almost have
- 52:07Speaker 1: to have that baked in to have a plan going in,
- 52:09Speaker 1: or if you just let it roll with whatever the
- 52:11Speaker 1: optimizer gives you, then be good with that. That's your process.
- 52:14Speaker 1: That's what you got. You got a run with it.
- 52:15Speaker 1: It sucks if you missed, but at the end of
- 52:17Speaker 1: the day, definitely an interesting slate from that perspective for
- 52:21Speaker 1: these tight ends. Hoop anything you want to add, Man,
- 52:23Speaker 1: any other final thoughts?
- 52:24Speaker 5: Who did you get any teams through? Are you looking
- 52:26Speaker 5: to get any basketball teams through?
- 52:28Speaker 4: Uh?
- 52:29Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm gonna get one of my right now. Actually
- 52:32Speaker 3: two of my five point fifty fives are getting through.
- 52:35Speaker 3: But to let you down, yeah, yeah, but I.
- 52:41Speaker 4: Think I'm gonna get chased down once. I think I'll
- 52:43Speaker 4: get one through. But it's not a great team. It
- 52:45Speaker 4: just had like Trevor Lawrence and uh A monra on there,
- 52:49Speaker 4: so that helps. Yeah, but yeah, it's not a.
- 52:54Speaker 1: Yeah, oh knowing what the poores?
- 52:56Speaker 3: I see?
- 53:02Speaker 1: Why out yourself now?
- 53:03Speaker 2: Okay?
- 53:04Speaker 3: Yeah, but he's the five point fifty five stuff, so yeah, yeah,
- 53:09Speaker 3: some of the high stakes stuff. I won't say.
- 53:11Speaker 4: Man, the best playoff best ball is the it's the
- 53:15Speaker 4: nut format, Like it is so fun the playoff best balls.
- 53:19Speaker 3: Yeah, it's true, you gotta get that role.
- 53:21Speaker 1: Maybe Hoop will get on a show, do some playoff basketball.
- 53:23Speaker 4: People crazy party that I still see down here, like
- 53:26Speaker 4: people are still doing content and whining about fucking the
- 53:30Speaker 4: Kyle Pitts thing, Like I just can't help that.
- 53:34Speaker 3: Thing's even worse.
- 53:35Speaker 5: People are mad at like popular people that are good
- 53:38Speaker 5: at best ball, like their pod Luck, which again.
- 53:41Speaker 3: Like like people are like you're signing up for like
- 53:44Speaker 3: you said.
- 53:45Speaker 5: I've seen multiple tweets on people getting mad at specific
- 53:48Speaker 5: people advancing a lot because of their pod luck, Like,
- 53:51Speaker 5: I mean, yeah, and you gotta believe it's random. And
- 53:53Speaker 5: if you think it's fixed, then why are you even
- 53:55Speaker 5: putting any money in the thing.
- 53:56Speaker 4: It's I mean, it is a flawed format, like the
- 53:58Speaker 4: way it's set up is I mean, just look at
- 54:01Speaker 4: this week, like Trevor Lawrence, Kyle Pitts, like two just
- 54:06Speaker 4: random guys, Like if you don't have that ama Ra
- 54:09Speaker 4: like like if you don't have them, you're not advancing.
- 54:11Speaker 4: You can have the best team all season long. If
- 54:14Speaker 4: you don't have those guys and other people do, you're done.
- 54:18Speaker 3: But we knew that for a while, So if you
- 54:21Speaker 3: don't like that, go play. I'm the one that you won.
- 54:24Speaker 4: The site you want two hundred and fifty thousand dollars
- 54:25Speaker 4: on drafters where that stuff gets negated.
- 54:29Speaker 5: Yeah, I didn't have a quarterback the last two weeks.
- 54:30Speaker 5: I would ad stone dead, no chance to win. But
- 54:33Speaker 5: it's the whole week. Each week's independent. That's the best title. No,
- 54:38Speaker 5: this year, last year, I did the least them on
- 54:40Speaker 5: a volume because it's like I'm a slow draft in traveling.
- 54:42Speaker 5: So no, I'm stone dust this year. Last year, that's
- 54:45Speaker 5: a once in a lifetime thing. I don't think I'll
- 54:47Speaker 5: be up there anytime. Well, I mean the draft. I
- 54:50Speaker 5: honestly the draft.
- 54:51Speaker 4: People like basketball, I think because it's something that keeps
- 54:54Speaker 4: them engaged in football.
- 54:55Speaker 3: All year long.
- 54:56Speaker 4: But the format is awful, like beyond where you get
- 55:00Speaker 4: in and then you got to win one of twelve
- 55:03Speaker 4: one of twelve and then still produce when you get
- 55:07Speaker 4: to the main event.
- 55:08Speaker 3: It's like insid so hard.
- 55:11Speaker 1: I think. My take on that is like, as it's
- 55:14Speaker 1: gonna keep growing. Best ball's phenomenal, I get saying, But
- 55:17Speaker 1: like for the the pool, stuff is gonna keep growing,
- 55:20Speaker 1: Like we were doing stuff really solid this year, like
- 55:22Speaker 1: all three of us particularly got more into it than
- 55:25Speaker 1: I ever expected. We literally talked to every show pre show.
- 55:28Speaker 1: We can talk about business, we could talk about life,
- 55:30Speaker 1: relate like everything we've got going on, and we were
- 55:31Speaker 1: like Survivor this week and it was just so fun.
- 55:34Speaker 1: It's like Golf one and dones right, it's you set
- 55:37Speaker 1: it up. It's the easiest format. You can put up
- 55:39Speaker 1: decent money like two hundred and fifty three hundred bucks
- 55:41Speaker 1: in Survivor. You put five thousand bucks or whatever you
- 55:44Speaker 1: want to put it in a couple thousand dollars buy
- 55:46Speaker 1: ins like anything, any dollar amount you want. But there's
- 55:48Speaker 1: something for you every week, and there's some real strategy
- 55:51Speaker 1: to it where teams are literally sitting dead and you're like, oh,
- 55:54Speaker 1: I still have these teams left. There's a balance to
- 55:56Speaker 1: the game. So there's gonna be a lot more stuff
- 55:59Speaker 1: I think with pools. I don't We're doing a ton
- 56:00Speaker 1: of good stuff with Splash Sports, like you guys can
- 56:03Speaker 1: go check that out, like that's a big factor as well,
- 56:05Speaker 1: But in general, I think the pool stuff is going
- 56:08Speaker 1: to be a lot bigger moving forward, just because it's easy.
- 56:11Speaker 1: Any buy in level, you're still playing against other people.
- 56:14Speaker 1: There's game theory and thought process to all of how
- 56:16Speaker 1: you what you're thinking about and kind of a puzzle
- 56:19Speaker 1: to it. And it's big, big money on the line
- 56:22Speaker 1: still like two and a half million for Splash this
- 56:23Speaker 1: year circas what eighteen, Yeah, something like that, almost twenty
- 56:28Speaker 1: mili so and.
- 56:29Speaker 3: Rake free so.
- 56:30Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, it's it's all growing. I mean, it's
- 56:32Speaker 5: it's fun to sweat all that stuff. Yeah, we're not
- 56:35Speaker 5: We're not hating on best Ball. I'm lively playing basketball
- 56:37Speaker 5: for years. Just I know what I'm getting into. I'm
- 56:39Speaker 5: not going to be screaming that Kyle pitts er like
- 56:42Speaker 5: this pod buried me.
- 56:43Speaker 3: It's it's part of the game. Yeah, you know what
- 56:45Speaker 3: you're signing up.
- 56:47Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, well I'll leave it at that. If
- 56:50Speaker 1: you guys want to check out ship at nation dot com,
- 56:51Speaker 1: you can go do so. Definitely check this out. It's
- 56:53Speaker 1: free to get in. We're giving away a ton of money, cash, prizes, whatever,
- 56:57Speaker 1: every single day. You can check it out the twelve
- 56:58Speaker 1: days of ship miss Today on at ship at Nation.
- 57:01Speaker 1: People are already getting it in. We posted the winners
- 57:04Speaker 1: of the last couple of days. You can go see
- 57:05Speaker 1: me today as a creamy smoky mac and cheese. What's
- 57:09Speaker 1: the holiday side of choice title? If you're having a
- 57:12Speaker 1: holiday meal, what's your your side.
- 57:13Speaker 3: That you like?
- 57:14Speaker 5: I like?
- 57:15Speaker 3: I think mac and cheese would probably be mine too.
- 57:17Speaker 3: I love mac and cheese.
- 57:19Speaker 1: Hoop, what's yours? Uh?
- 57:21Speaker 3: Nothing in particular, but I do like mac and cheese.
- 57:24Speaker 3: I mean I'm always a fan of some good some
- 57:26Speaker 3: good mac and cheese.
- 57:28Speaker 1: Yeah, love it. Are you a pepsi or coke guy?
- 57:31Speaker 4: Oh?
- 57:33Speaker 3: So I've tried to cut out.
- 57:35Speaker 4: I've successfully cut out pops and now if I was
- 57:38Speaker 4: choosing though between the two.
- 57:39Speaker 3: Would be coke. But I try. I try to avoid
- 57:43Speaker 3: it nowadays.
- 57:44Speaker 1: Really stay away from the coke. Definitely a bad idea.
- 57:48Speaker 1: Then you got beetlebats as my five year old eats
- 57:50Speaker 1: mac and cheese on a Tuesday, But you're probably eating
- 57:54Speaker 1: like Kraft dinner or something like the basics we're talking about,
- 57:57Speaker 1: like the real homemade oven baked special. You know, you
- 58:01Speaker 1: can do smoked whatever. There's a lot of different things
- 58:04Speaker 1: you can do to elevate a mac and cheese. And
- 58:07Speaker 1: that's our guy, Beatlebain. So yeah, we gotta let them know,
- 58:11Speaker 1: all right. I think that's it. Boys, we'll get out
- 58:12Speaker 1: of here. This is a fun one. It's a big
- 58:14Speaker 1: slate tonight, so a lot of money up top. Definitely
- 58:16Speaker 1: another good one. Will have everything updated on the site
- 58:18Speaker 1: over at chippen nation dot com. Go check out the
- 58:21Speaker 1: Twelve Days of ship Miss for title for Hoop and
- 58:23Speaker 1: for myself, Totech and Tamba let ship it.