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- 0:40Speaker 2: get Vic connected out in San Francisco right now.
- 0:43Speaker 3: Moser's in Ispana, so.
- 0:48Speaker 2: He will be out for the foreseeable future, re evaluated
- 0:51Speaker 2: in four to six weeks.
- 0:53Speaker 4: Now.
- 0:55Speaker 2: With what the Nuggets did at the deadline yesterday, it's
- 1:00Speaker 2: kind of what she expected. They go out, they make
- 1:03Speaker 2: the move of trading a smaller contract. In this case,
- 1:07Speaker 2: Hunter Tyson, maybe one of the only guys in the
- 1:09Speaker 2: roster that really like was not getting playing time at all.
- 1:13Speaker 2: They ship him out to Brooklyn. Brooklyn waves him immediately.
- 1:16Speaker 2: It was a big salary dump thing. You exchange second
- 1:18Speaker 2: round picks and who really cares. But you do that
- 1:24Speaker 2: to open up another roster spot so that you can
- 1:28Speaker 2: convert the two way contract of Spencer Jones into a
- 1:32Speaker 2: full time NBA contract and also leave you wiggle room
- 1:36Speaker 2: for the buy out market, which I think is going
- 1:38Speaker 2: to be very important. People look at this and they say, oh, well,
- 1:42Speaker 2: the Nuggets want to stay under the text because they're cheap. No,
- 1:45Speaker 2: it's because they're smart. And here's why. When you make
- 1:50Speaker 2: that move and you do get under the tax, it
- 1:54Speaker 2: allows the buyout and the buyout market is going to
- 1:58Speaker 2: be extremely important the Nuggets this year. Not for the postseason.
- 2:03Speaker 2: I wouldn't think it's for the ramp up to the postseason.
- 2:09Speaker 2: The Nuggets are in a really bad spot right now.
- 2:12Speaker 2: They have players returning from injury that obviously are not
- 2:15Speaker 2: playing up to the standard that we're used to from
- 2:17Speaker 2: them and Jokic in Christian Brown. They have lost Peyton
- 2:20Speaker 2: Watson for an extended period of time. They've lost Aaron
- 2:25Speaker 2: Gordon for an extended period of time. They are now
- 2:28Speaker 2: two and a half games out of second place for
- 2:30Speaker 2: the San Antonio Spurs. That part less important than this part.
- 2:36Speaker 2: They are within a game of everybody up until the
- 2:42Speaker 2: seventh seed. The Rockets, Lakers, and Tea Wolves are all
- 2:47Speaker 2: one game back of you, which means you lose those
- 2:51Speaker 2: three teams win you in the blink of an eye,
- 2:54Speaker 2: go from third to sixth. You're only two games ahead
- 3:00Speaker 2: of the seven seed Phoenix Suns, which if they jump you,
- 3:05Speaker 2: now you're in a play in spot. You need to
- 3:08Speaker 2: get healthy bodies in the lineup in the buyout market
- 3:13Speaker 2: serves as that.
- 3:17Speaker 3: So this isn't about staying under the tax. This is
- 3:20Speaker 3: about trying to acquire more players so that you can
- 3:24Speaker 3: get through this stretch of basketball that is going to
- 3:27Speaker 3: prove to be very, very difficult. If the timelines are true,
- 3:33Speaker 3: and I don't know if if we've gotten an official
- 3:36Speaker 3: one from Peyton Watson yet, it looks like you might
- 3:43Speaker 3: not have a fully healthy roster assuming everybody else right
- 3:46Speaker 3: now stays healthy, which forget knocking on what I'm gonna
- 3:50Speaker 3: pound it. It would lead up to about a few
- 3:54Speaker 3: weeks before the playoffs, and that would need to get
- 3:57Speaker 3: you to a point of everybody being on the same
- 4:02Speaker 3: page and trying to build up chemistry just days away
- 4:06Speaker 3: from the postseason starting. But it's a lot easier to
- 4:09Speaker 3: do that if you're a higher seed as opposed to
- 4:12Speaker 3: we're in a play in spot, need to win, and
- 4:15Speaker 3: even if we do do, we face Oklahoma City in
- 4:19Speaker 3: the first round. Like, that's what you need to avoid
- 4:22Speaker 3: and that's the purpose to this. So I went through
- 4:26Speaker 3: an entire five minute spiel. I think VIC missed most
- 4:28Speaker 3: of it, but I think I explained it pretty clearly
- 4:30Speaker 3: Vic that this wasn't about I don't know if you
- 4:32Speaker 3: heard it or not, but yes, welcome, welcome.
- 4:35Speaker 4: I don't understand anything that you said our last day
- 4:38Speaker 4: here at media Row, but I heard what you had
- 4:40Speaker 4: to say, and I don't disagree with much of what
- 4:41Speaker 4: you had to say. The buyout market, it comes down
- 4:44Speaker 4: to this is how much do you want to spend
- 4:46Speaker 4: on a player who may not play in your playoff
- 4:50Speaker 4: rotation but can carry the load to get you there? Yeah,
- 4:53Speaker 4: because I do agree with you. You get to a
- 4:56Speaker 4: danger point, where a danger zone how far do you
- 4:59Speaker 4: want to drop? How far? How far can you avoid
- 5:02Speaker 4: dropping before it becomes too much? Right, Like a top
- 5:05Speaker 4: four seed going into the playoffs is very important, very important.
- 5:09Speaker 4: You want to avoid Okay see in the second round.
- 5:12Speaker 4: But the more I look at it, I mean, San
- 5:16Speaker 4: Antonio is not going to be field day for you. No,
- 5:18Speaker 4: it's a that's a tough that's a tough one too.
- 5:22Speaker 4: Everybody's tough.
- 5:23Speaker 2: But it's not okay say no, but it's not that.
- 5:28Speaker 4: I mean, it's not okay. See but it's still not
- 5:29Speaker 4: as easy as you make it out to be.
- 5:31Speaker 3: Yeah, it's I don't know.
- 5:33Speaker 2: You know, there's gonna be a whole bunch of names
- 5:36Speaker 2: that are on that buyout list. Again, I don't know
- 5:40Speaker 2: if those guys are going to be people that get
- 5:44Speaker 2: any sort of run in the playoffs. But it's just
- 5:47Speaker 2: it's a bridge to get you to the place you
- 5:49Speaker 2: want to be when the playoffs start. That's what the
- 5:52Speaker 2: focus needs to be.
- 5:53Speaker 4: So what position exactly do you target? We don't. Do
- 5:57Speaker 4: you need a big body? Do you need a guard?
- 6:01Speaker 4: What are you looking for here in this buyout mark?
- 6:05Speaker 2: I don't think you need a guard. I don't think so.
- 6:08Speaker 2: I think they need somebody that can be Peyton Watson
- 6:13Speaker 2: was trying to do the back well not even backup.
- 6:17Speaker 2: He was trying to fill the Aaron Gordon spot.
- 6:19Speaker 3: Yeah, and then you don't have that.
- 6:20Speaker 2: I don't think you have a guy that's like that
- 6:21Speaker 2: six foot eight range that can kind of play that
- 6:24Speaker 2: a little bit.
- 6:24Speaker 4: So forward, I think. So, isn't that what Zeke Nause is.
- 6:31Speaker 3: I don't think they like him.
- 6:32Speaker 4: Isn't that what Doron Holmes is?
- 6:34Speaker 3: I don't think he's ready?
- 6:36Speaker 4: Okay, so let's just go down the line. So those
- 6:39Speaker 4: are two players you currently have on the roster. And
- 6:42Speaker 4: it's interesting you say that because Doron Holmes did not
- 6:44Speaker 4: play at all during that three game losing streak.
- 6:47Speaker 3: Neither did Zeke.
- 6:48Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, Nate Krekman brought up a good point.
- 6:51Speaker 4: I heard him talk about this yesterday, and I'll ask
- 6:54Speaker 4: you what he asked everybody. When you're playing these overtime games,
- 6:58Speaker 4: especially double overtime, and these guys are fried, you could
- 7:02Speaker 4: tell they had no legs, they could not shoot, everything
- 7:05Speaker 4: was short, Why don't they go to their bench more often?
- 7:13Speaker 2: Because when you're in crunch time and you have five
- 7:16Speaker 2: minutes to make plays happen. I think it's easier just
- 7:20Speaker 2: to be like a tired Jokic is better than an alternative.
- 7:24Speaker 4: But isn't fresh legs vital at that point because you
- 7:27Speaker 4: got a minutes restricted player And I'm not just not
- 7:31Speaker 4: trying to target Jokics. I'm talking about all five guys.
- 7:34Speaker 4: Look at the minutes they put up in the game,
- 7:37Speaker 4: and then in overtime, where just a hint of energy
- 7:41Speaker 4: can make the difference in the game, getting the ball
- 7:44Speaker 4: to the cup can make the difference of the game.
- 7:47Speaker 4: Why is it? And it's not just the Nuggets. Every
- 7:49Speaker 4: team does this in these overtimes. They stick with those
- 7:53Speaker 4: guys and they never leave the court. And I think
- 7:56Speaker 4: I know the answer. The answer is pretty simple. I
- 7:59Speaker 4: dare to try and take Jamal Joker, Tim hardaway those
- 8:02Speaker 4: guys off the court in those situations.
- 8:05Speaker 2: Well, this is what former coach Michael Malone said before
- 8:07Speaker 2: that game about Joker leaving the floor.
- 8:10Speaker 5: Nikola Jokic, Kenny MVP candidate. Every year new rule, he
- 8:14Speaker 5: can only miss one more game the rest of the
- 8:16Speaker 5: year to be eligible to win his fourth Then say,
- 8:20Speaker 5: but you know what, when I coached him, I had
- 8:21Speaker 5: a hard time getting him to sit. He never wanted
- 8:23Speaker 5: to sit, Malika. He loves to play. That sixty five
- 8:27Speaker 5: game rule. The impetus behind it was not for guys
- 8:29Speaker 5: like Nikole Jokic, and I worry that this rule is
- 8:33Speaker 5: going to prohibit great players from getting real talk.
- 8:37Speaker 6: Now that Shakoess Alexander has this abdominal injury, I don't
- 8:40Speaker 6: know how long it's going to miss. He may bump
- 8:41Speaker 6: up against it. We may have the guys who are
- 8:44Speaker 6: one and two in the MVP race invalidate.
- 8:47Speaker 4: I love when someone precedes a sentence by saying real talk. Yeah,
- 8:52Speaker 4: if it's not real talk, what is it? Fake talk? Here,
- 8:56Speaker 4: Brett fake stuff.
- 8:57Speaker 2: There's some people that do fake talk on you sports
- 9:00Speaker 2: radio shows.
- 9:00Speaker 4: You know, I got fake talk here for you. I
- 9:03Speaker 4: don't know why you play. At the beginning of the
- 9:06Speaker 4: second overtime. What if I told you at the beginning
- 9:10Speaker 4: of the second overtime, these guys are fried. Hey, fellas,
- 9:12Speaker 4: we're gonna give you a minute and a half, get
- 9:16Speaker 4: as much rest as you can. Chill out. That minute
- 9:19Speaker 4: and a half probably is gonna take five minutes. And
- 9:21Speaker 4: we're gonna put Zeke in. We're going to put Julian
- 9:27Speaker 4: Strather in, We're gonna put Jonas Valanchunis in, and these
- 9:30Speaker 4: guys are gonna go as hard as they can for
- 9:32Speaker 4: a minute and a half. Let's go team on three.
- 9:36Speaker 4: Here's the problem with that. It's a player's game. It's
- 9:39Speaker 4: a players league. Those players you pull out of the
- 9:42Speaker 4: game ain't gonna be pretty afterwards. Well, and that's the truth.
- 9:46Speaker 2: Here's I don't know if this is a great sort
- 9:49Speaker 2: of comparison, but you've seen it before, Vick word team
- 9:52Speaker 2: of football. Team goes no huddle and you'll start driving
- 9:55Speaker 2: down the field and you see that defensive line is gassed.
- 9:58Speaker 4: Yea.
- 9:58Speaker 2: At the end of it, let's say that you get
- 10:01Speaker 2: just some sort of break incomplete pass. Now you can
- 10:03Speaker 2: kind of get a second two sub a player if
- 10:05Speaker 2: you want to.
- 10:06Speaker 3: But it's third down.
- 10:07Speaker 2: Do you want to take Benito off the field even
- 10:09Speaker 2: if he's exhausted On third down? You need a pass rush?
- 10:12Speaker 2: Like listen, I think it's just easier to trust your
- 10:15Speaker 2: players even if they're tired.
- 10:16Speaker 4: We all agree that fresh legs could do them some good,
- 10:19Speaker 4: especially in a double overtime game where they look I
- 10:22Speaker 4: mean it's the second game of a back to back
- 10:24Speaker 4: and there's minutes restrictions, they look gassed. We all agree
- 10:27Speaker 4: that fresh legs probably is the way to go. The
- 10:29Speaker 4: problem is the way this league runs and the way
- 10:32Speaker 4: it's set up and the way the players run the league.
- 10:37Speaker 4: Good luck doing that, yeah, because you will pay the
- 10:40Speaker 4: price afterwards, trust me, good luck.
- 10:44Speaker 2: Yeah, it's tough. By the way, we can say that
- 10:49Speaker 2: for later. I got I get a lot to say
- 10:51Speaker 2: about Johannis.
- 10:54Speaker 4: Is pissing me off, Johannis escapade in Milwaukee. Just be
- 10:59Speaker 4: thankful you don't have to deal with that.
- 11:00Speaker 2: Well, that's that's what I want to get to. So
- 11:02Speaker 2: let me say that because you are you are such
- 11:05Speaker 2: a freight position and have been with what your roster
- 11:09Speaker 2: is and the guy who leads it in jokicch So
- 11:11Speaker 2: we'll get to that in a minute. But you know
- 11:14Speaker 2: the awards, the NFL awards were yesterday. Yeah, I'm actually
- 11:20Speaker 2: pretty surprised. It's the closest MVP race in the history
- 11:24Speaker 2: of the NFL.
- 11:24Speaker 4: Did you hear the difference in it? Did you hear
- 11:27Speaker 4: what it came down to me?
- 11:27Speaker 2: It was three hundred and sixty six total points for
- 11:30Speaker 2: Stafford to three sixty one for Drake May It was
- 11:32Speaker 2: twenty four first place votes for Stafford twenty three Drake May.
- 11:36Speaker 4: No, and.
- 11:39Speaker 2: Patriots fans are like really up in arms about this.
- 11:42Speaker 2: I don't understand why. I think that Stafford very clearly
- 11:45Speaker 2: had the better year. He had like fifteen more touchdowns
- 11:48Speaker 2: than Drake May had. I mean, that's not a small
- 11:50Speaker 2: margin there, that's huge. Stafford put up forty six tds
- 11:54Speaker 2: and eight picks. That's like prime Aaron Rodgers numbers. But
- 11:58Speaker 2: I was surprised at how close it was. I knew
- 12:01Speaker 2: that May would be up there. I didn't think it
- 12:02Speaker 2: would be like literally one vote deciding the difference.
- 12:06Speaker 4: I thought the right guy won the award, and I'm
- 12:10Speaker 4: not going to I could go back and forth on that.
- 12:12Speaker 4: I get it. Drake May's twenty three. He'll have plenty
- 12:14Speaker 4: more chances to win that award and he's gonna be fine.
- 12:17Speaker 4: Stafford won it. He'll be back for another season. But
- 12:20Speaker 4: I think the difference in the outcome of the votes
- 12:22Speaker 4: came down to one vote. A guy who voted for
- 12:27Speaker 4: Justin Herbert and went on Twitter and tried to justify
- 12:31Speaker 4: his vote, Sam Sam Monson. Monson is he an analytics guy, so.
- 12:35Speaker 2: He used to be with Pro Football Focus. I think
- 12:36Speaker 2: he's got his own thing.
- 12:37Speaker 4: Now, okay. And his argument for voting for Justin Herbert
- 12:41Speaker 4: was his offensive line was horrid and he had to
- 12:43Speaker 4: play through it, and that if Justin if Stafford had
- 12:46Speaker 4: that kind of offensive line, he would look horrid too.
- 12:48Speaker 4: In fact, the one game where his offensive line got injured,
- 12:51Speaker 4: he didn't look the same. Blah blah blah. I just
- 12:54Speaker 4: think that mentality, that reasoning is so tough to I
- 12:58Speaker 4: don't know what the answer is. But to watch a
- 13:02Speaker 4: game and say a guy's offensive line wasn't up to par,
- 13:05Speaker 4: but I still think he's the MVP, Well, how do
- 13:08Speaker 4: you How do you really know that the numbers did
- 13:10Speaker 4: not suggest that? They just didn't. I give all the
- 13:13Speaker 4: credit in the world to Justin Herbert for dragging that
- 13:15Speaker 4: team through a season and almost winning a division because
- 13:18Speaker 4: they almost did. Okay, they were close. I give him credit.
- 13:21Speaker 4: But to then assume he's the MVP because he's missing linement,
- 13:24Speaker 4: how do you make that leap? How do you go
- 13:26Speaker 4: from one to the other?
- 13:27Speaker 2: I can look, I can understand what he's getting at here,
- 13:31Speaker 2: because everybody has their own definition of this thing. He's
- 13:36Speaker 2: talking about value, and if you've got a quarterback that
- 13:38Speaker 2: can overcome all of that and lead you to still
- 13:40Speaker 2: like what No. Eleven and five, eleven and six, twelve
- 13:43Speaker 2: and five record, I think he's wrong.
- 13:47Speaker 4: Yeah, because I can make same argument. Here's my argument. Ready, Yeah,
- 13:50Speaker 4: Bonnick should have been the MVP. He lost his top
- 13:53Speaker 4: running back midway through the season and played better as
- 13:56Speaker 4: the season went on and got a number one seed.
- 13:58Speaker 4: And then you saw what the defense did when he
- 14:00Speaker 4: wasn't in the game in the AFC title game. Yeah,
- 14:03Speaker 4: based on that reasoning and who he lost around him,
- 14:06Speaker 4: Bonix is my MVP. Got it good? Let's go? Could
- 14:10Speaker 4: I mean think about think about it? You could say
- 14:12Speaker 4: that about anybody.
- 14:14Speaker 3: How much does overall success matter?
- 14:17Speaker 2: But a lot of people were upset when you I
- 14:19Speaker 2: can't remember which MVP it was, a lot of people
- 14:21Speaker 2: were upset when Yokic won the MVP when the Nuggets
- 14:23Speaker 2: were like the six seed.
- 14:24Speaker 4: Yes see. But the difference is the NBA is much
- 14:27Speaker 4: more analytically driven. It's much easier to ascertain because there
- 14:31Speaker 4: are numbers that support certain arguments in the In the NBA,
- 14:35Speaker 4: in a team game like football, where there's an offense
- 14:38Speaker 4: and a defense and there are twenty two players on
- 14:40Speaker 4: the field at given time, then there's a run game,
- 14:43Speaker 4: and then there's this. I just think it's tougher. I
- 14:45Speaker 4: could tell you what fingerprints Joker's got his chance on.
- 14:49Speaker 4: You know you can. You can deduce that pretty easily
- 14:52Speaker 4: in the NFL. Good luck.
- 14:54Speaker 2: It felt like a vote like I just wanted to
- 14:56Speaker 2: be different, right, yeah?
- 14:59Speaker 4: Yeah? But and look what it did. That one vote
- 15:02Speaker 4: altered the overall votes.
- 15:04Speaker 2: I mean, what if he put it on Stafford instead.
- 15:07Speaker 2: Did he say that Drake May was second place for him?
- 15:10Speaker 4: I don't know. I don't know, but I mean just
- 15:11Speaker 4: one out of order vote could affect everybody else.
- 15:14Speaker 2: I mean two guys voted for Josh Allen too, and
- 15:16Speaker 2: it was like, yeah, yeah, Stafford. I said this, by
- 15:21Speaker 2: the way, And it's not that he didn't deserve it
- 15:23Speaker 2: because he had a phenomenal season. It does kind of
- 15:26Speaker 2: feel like lifetime Achievement award for him though, because he's
- 15:29Speaker 2: been putting up numbers every year in this league for
- 15:31Speaker 2: like fifteen seasons and he finally won his first MVP.
- 15:34Speaker 4: I do need to know what was Stafford doing with
- 15:37Speaker 4: his hair.
- 15:39Speaker 2: He's gone full Hollywood bro. He's got those chompers.
- 15:42Speaker 4: He's got the chompers that happened as soon as he
- 15:44Speaker 4: moved to LA. But the hair is now it's like
- 15:48Speaker 4: an wedding singer Adam Sandler style hairdo.
- 15:52Speaker 2: I've been trying to figure out how old his kids
- 15:54Speaker 2: are because he has four daughters. They all look the
- 15:56Speaker 2: same age, I know, like all of them were the
- 15:59Speaker 2: same height.
- 16:00Speaker 4: It was weird, But I need some background on who
- 16:04Speaker 4: said to him, here's what we're going with now again
- 16:07Speaker 4: to each his own he looks great. But when I
- 16:11Speaker 4: saw him, I was like, whoa.
- 16:12Speaker 2: By the way, when he said, he was doing his
- 16:14Speaker 2: little acceptance speech thing and he said, I can't wait
- 16:17Speaker 2: to kick ass next year. And he saw the reaction
- 16:20Speaker 2: of McVeigh and his teammates. Did they not know that
- 16:24Speaker 2: he was coming back yet?
- 16:25Speaker 4: No? He never announced it, so he didn't even.
- 16:27Speaker 3: Tell them privately, like, hey, I'm coming back.
- 16:29Speaker 2: I know that McVeigh has been asked over and over
- 16:31Speaker 2: again whether he's coming back or not.
- 16:32Speaker 3: Did they all find out right then and there?
- 16:34Speaker 4: Apparently so? Coach of the Year Mike Rabel, No one's
- 16:38Speaker 4: surprised there he won that. In Alliance Slide, the assistant
- 16:41Speaker 4: coach of the Year was this guy who beat out
- 16:44Speaker 4: Vance Joseph. This guy right here. You see this guy?
- 16:49Speaker 3: Why do you have that?
- 16:51Speaker 4: I got things? Dude? You know I carry things. Do
- 16:56Speaker 4: you know who I am? Do you know what I
- 16:57Speaker 4: carry with me?
- 16:58Speaker 5: Do?
- 16:58Speaker 3: Yes?
- 16:59Speaker 4: This that's right here, got me and Jesse access to
- 17:03Speaker 4: so many Super Bowl parties last night. By the way,
- 17:06Speaker 4: Jesse's a hurting unit today. Bro Oh, I.
- 17:08Speaker 2: Saw you think, just am Jesse you on that mic
- 17:11Speaker 2: right now?
- 17:12Speaker 4: Oh, he's on He's on a hurt in the unit
- 17:14Speaker 4: right now.
- 17:15Speaker 3: Wait wait, wait, because you had a little drinking pool
- 17:16Speaker 3: last night.
- 17:17Speaker 4: No no, no, no, no bike no.
- 17:20Speaker 2: I saw you up chuck on your bike ride, or
- 17:23Speaker 2: at least what was left of it.
- 17:25Speaker 4: Yeah, you're just see.
- 17:28Speaker 2: This is why you don't make four trips to the
- 17:29Speaker 2: buffet before you want to go on a bike ride.
- 17:31Speaker 3: In San Francisco.
- 17:32Speaker 4: We didn't go on a buffet, but we did have
- 17:33Speaker 4: a Yeah, we had a nice meal beforehand, and we
- 17:35Speaker 4: did a twenty two miler. We started in downtown San Francisco,
- 17:39Speaker 4: rode the perimeter, then went across the Golden Gate Bridge
- 17:43Speaker 4: into San Marin County, did some hills over there. I
- 17:47Speaker 4: come back down the hill and I go, Jessey, you okay,
- 17:49Speaker 4: he goes yeah, and he left part of himself on
- 17:51Speaker 4: the side of that hill, A.
- 17:53Speaker 3: Big part of filthy human Jesse.
- 17:56Speaker 4: You know what the it's It's fine because everywhere you
- 17:58Speaker 4: walk in San Francisco that takes place. I mean, what's
- 18:01Speaker 4: the difference. Hey, you should have done it here. You
- 18:03Speaker 4: would have fit right in. Wait.
- 18:05Speaker 3: But but are you saying that? Jesse?
- 18:08Speaker 2: Did you You just lied to me? When I said
- 18:10Speaker 2: you have some drinking boos last night? You said no immediately,
- 18:14Speaker 2: And Vic said, well, no, I.
- 18:16Speaker 4: Had some drinks, but I didn't get sick from no. Yeah,
- 18:19Speaker 4: he got He's fine from that. It was the other
- 18:22Speaker 4: way around. He got sick before the drink. So that's
- 18:25Speaker 4: how it works. Yeah, Jesse, it works at reverse. When
- 18:28Speaker 4: he knows he's going to go out and have a few,
- 18:30Speaker 4: he vomits beforehand, just to make room.
- 18:32Speaker 3: Yes, exactly.
- 18:34Speaker 4: Last night was awesome, by the way, Just to give
- 18:36Speaker 4: you an update on our Super Bowl party circuit. In
- 18:40Speaker 4: the old days, the way it worked, Brett, we'd get
- 18:43Speaker 4: here and we go at it. That first night. We'd
- 18:45Speaker 4: start finding parties not anymore too old, too old to
- 18:49Speaker 4: brittle what's the term I used for old and.
- 18:51Speaker 3: Brittle, brittled haired pansy. Yes, what you want.
- 18:54Speaker 4: I am now a brittle haired pansy. So we reserved
- 18:57Speaker 4: one night and that was last night, and there were
- 19:00Speaker 4: parties galored. We hooked up with our boy Ryan Harris,
- 19:03Speaker 4: who always has a ticket to each party, and the
- 19:05Speaker 4: ticket it's always gotten in for some place. Yeah, well
- 19:08Speaker 4: his ticket. He wears this enormous super Bowl ring. Yeah
- 19:11Speaker 4: it helps, and he just shows it and says, yep,
- 19:13Speaker 4: I'm in and uh and where's entourage?
- 19:16Speaker 3: Why didn't you bring your nuggets ring? I could have
- 19:18Speaker 3: got you something.
- 19:18Speaker 4: I should have wore my nuggets and my f ring
- 19:20Speaker 4: just ringed it all up. I got my wedding ring.
- 19:23Speaker 4: It worked just the same. But anyway, so we go
- 19:25Speaker 4: to the first party and the Ditka Cigar party.
- 19:28Speaker 3: Oh I like that.
- 19:29Speaker 4: Yeah, so I pulled an Easio there, I will readily admit.
- 19:34Speaker 4: And so they're giving away cigars, these nice cigars. Hey,
- 19:37Speaker 4: Pat's here. They're giving away these nice little cigars. And
- 19:41Speaker 4: these things are not cheap, all right, Yeah, I told
- 19:45Speaker 4: I told Jesse, I said, hey, if they're giving these away,
- 19:48Speaker 4: snagged me a couple because my brother is big into those.
- 19:51Speaker 4: We left the party with twenty four cigars. Really, yes,
- 19:56Speaker 4: did you throw your boy with you? Easy?
- 20:00Speaker 3: Throw me a couple?
- 20:00Speaker 4: No, we earned that, We earned that. That was not
- 20:04Speaker 4: an I did.
- 20:05Speaker 3: I did the first five minutes Radio by myself here.
- 20:09Speaker 4: You might you might get one or two. And these
- 20:11Speaker 4: are the real good ones.
- 20:12Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying, just one or two.
- 20:13Speaker 4: These are the Koba, the Macanudos, the Peninsulas. I don't
- 20:17Speaker 4: even know tans. Yes. So then we go from that party.
- 20:22Speaker 4: So we're there hanging around. This is the Ditka party,
- 20:25Speaker 4: and Mike wasn't there. Mike's eighty six years of age.
- 20:30Speaker 4: But it was run by Brian Urlocker who was operating
- 20:33Speaker 4: that party. We go from there, oh the guy with
- 20:35Speaker 4: hair now yeah, to the Athlete's First party. Athletes First
- 20:39Speaker 4: is an agency and one of the one of the
- 20:42Speaker 4: guys who works for athletes First is a former Broncos
- 20:45Speaker 4: defensive back by the name of Kyle McCarthy, who's a domer.
- 20:48Speaker 4: He's a notre name guy. So I have an end
- 20:50Speaker 4: with him. So we got to hold him to say
- 20:52Speaker 4: can you get us into this party? He did. He's
- 20:54Speaker 4: one of the agents there. They rented out and I
- 20:56Speaker 4: want my mom to know this. I went to church
- 20:58Speaker 4: last night. They rented out a church and gustied it
- 21:03Speaker 4: up with all this disco ball stuff and turned it
- 21:06Speaker 4: into a club and we partied. Well, I didn't I
- 21:10Speaker 4: walked in and looked around and walked out in a church.
- 21:14Speaker 4: I did a quick rosary, got that done and it
- 21:16Speaker 4: was a shock full of people.
- 21:20Speaker 2: Well that's crazy. That sounds like a hell of a night.
- 21:22Speaker 4: I like it. It's fun just make appearances, hop around
- 21:26Speaker 4: here and there. I mean again, gone other days when
- 21:28Speaker 4: you're just going at it and now you're just looking observing.
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- 21:58Speaker 3: Yeah, So a lot to get to here.
- 22:01Speaker 2: I want to get to some of these awards because
- 22:02Speaker 2: the Assistant Coach of the Year and Head Coach of
- 22:05Speaker 2: the Year something doesn't compute with me between these two.
- 22:08Speaker 2: So we'll get to that in a second, along with
- 22:09Speaker 2: I hate Grannis now, I just yeah.
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- 23:07Speaker 3: So a couple things here, Vic.
- 23:10Speaker 2: I want to stick with the awards here for a
- 23:11Speaker 2: second because there's something that's not computing with me Mike
- 23:16Speaker 2: Rabel wins Head Coach of the Year. Makes sense. He
- 23:18Speaker 2: takes over in New England and they're in the Super
- 23:20Speaker 2: Bowl again. He's had this phenomenal run.
- 23:22Speaker 3: I get it.
- 23:24Speaker 2: Josh McDaniels winning Assistant Coach of the Year again, I
- 23:29Speaker 2: think it's totally fair argument for them to make. Now,
- 23:32Speaker 2: Vance Joseph finished second in this. McDaniels had seventeen first
- 23:38Speaker 2: place votes. Vance Joseph had ten. Here's what I don't understand.
- 23:43Speaker 2: Sean Payton wasn't in the top five of Head Coach
- 23:45Speaker 2: at the Year votes. And I know it was a
- 23:47Speaker 2: loaded category this year, from Rabel to Shanahan to Liam
- 23:51Speaker 2: Cohen to a whole bunch of different people, right, But
- 23:55Speaker 2: if the translation there is Sean Payton wasn't responsible for
- 24:01Speaker 2: the success of the Broncos, who vanquished the Chiefs from
- 24:06Speaker 2: the AFC West Division winner for the first time in
- 24:09Speaker 2: a decade and finished the number one seed in the
- 24:12Speaker 2: AFC over the New England Patriots, then how does Vance
- 24:17Speaker 2: Joseph not get the credit for it?
- 24:18Speaker 4: Then? I don't know. I don't know how it works.
- 24:22Speaker 4: I don't know what all of the categories are when
- 24:25Speaker 4: you rate these coaches I don't know. I do know
- 24:28Speaker 4: this that the Broncos had a bunch of candidates for
- 24:30Speaker 4: NFL honors and they came out empty. They didn't win anything.
- 24:34Speaker 4: They had two in the Protector of the Year category.
- 24:37Speaker 4: How Bowls was lifted in every category. Basically heard Bowl's
- 24:41Speaker 4: name was everywhere. He got shut out. Broncos didn't win it.
- 24:44Speaker 3: I mean Defensive Player of the Year.
- 24:46Speaker 2: Benito's gonna have a really tough time because Miles Garrett
- 24:49Speaker 2: got all fifty first place votes.
- 24:50Speaker 4: I got no argument there. Yeah, he's shown argument there.
- 24:53Speaker 4: So which one do you think has the greatest story
- 24:56Speaker 4: of all the candidacies? Garrett b is in three different categories.
- 25:01Speaker 4: Fance Joseph was an assistant coach of the Year. Which
- 25:05Speaker 4: one do you have the most trouble fer Dance?
- 25:08Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, I mean if if again, the offense for
- 25:13Speaker 2: the Broncos was very much start and stop and a
- 25:17Speaker 2: lot of stop. The one constant was the defense. It's
- 25:22Speaker 2: what got you the fourteen and three records, what got
- 25:24Speaker 2: you the one seed, the entirety of the playoffs. And
- 25:27Speaker 2: it's like if he's not responsible for that, Like they're
- 25:30Speaker 2: giving both Rabel and McDaniel's credit in both of those categories.
- 25:34Speaker 3: I'm like, Judo karate pick one.
- 25:36Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a great point. I you know two's too much, right, Yeah,
- 25:40Speaker 4: I get I guess the defensive coordinator must feel left out.
- 25:43Speaker 4: He's like, hey, I was pretty good, right, No, you're
- 25:46Speaker 4: right there, You're right, you know. But I don't think
- 25:49Speaker 4: the voters look at it that way. The voters are
- 25:50Speaker 4: given these names and they're looking at them, and they're
- 25:52Speaker 4: not deciding who wins based on who wins in another category.
- 25:58Speaker 2: Here's the other thing, and I do want to talk
- 25:59Speaker 2: about this a second because it relates back to your
- 26:01Speaker 2: team as well. Let me just give you the timeline
- 26:04Speaker 2: of what happened with the honest stuff. Yah, Shams is
- 26:07Speaker 2: catching a whole bunch of grief. And I don't really
- 26:09Speaker 2: get why Chams is reporting things that he hears and Vick,
- 26:12Speaker 2: you know, as well as anybody, they get most of
- 26:14Speaker 2: their information from whom agents. So here's what my best estimation.
- 26:20Speaker 2: Giannis's agent went to Shams and said, Jannis is done
- 26:23Speaker 2: with Milwaukee.
- 26:24Speaker 3: Put it out there that.
- 26:25Speaker 4: He wants gone get it out there, help us.
- 26:27Speaker 3: So Shams did that.
- 26:28Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, it's a leverage play.
- 26:30Speaker 2: Seams said, Okay, fine, uh, Jannis is not happy. He
- 26:33Speaker 2: wants out of Milwaukee. Trade deadline comes and goes, Milwaukee
- 26:36Speaker 2: doesn't find a trading partner, Yiannis is still there. This
- 26:41Speaker 2: feels and you live through this, Vic, You can tell
- 26:43Speaker 2: me if this is an apt comparison or not from
- 26:44Speaker 2: but from what I've heard, it sounds a lot like
- 26:46Speaker 2: a do Shane thing happening right now. Okay, like I'm
- 26:49Speaker 2: not going to get rid of you unless I get
- 26:50Speaker 2: my king's ransom that I want.
- 26:52Speaker 3: So you just chill here until we find.
- 26:53Speaker 4: That because I can't.
- 26:55Speaker 3: I don't see a pathway where they continue to keep you.
- 26:57Speaker 4: Honest. Well, I mean that's a tough one because if
- 27:00Speaker 4: if he plays and he's got that bulky achilles right,
- 27:03Speaker 4: which could lead to something bad. It's the calf. He
- 27:06Speaker 4: keeps straining his calf, and you know we've heard, we've
- 27:09Speaker 4: seen it already guys who have a bunch of strained
- 27:12Speaker 4: calf issues. It leads to an achilles issue. So if
- 27:16Speaker 4: you're the Milwaukee Bucks, you trot him out there and
- 27:19Speaker 4: try to win games, or do you just take care
- 27:21Speaker 4: of that trade package and say we're not going to
- 27:24Speaker 4: push this because the worst thing that can happen is
- 27:26Speaker 4: he gets hurt. You're stuck with that salary.
- 27:27Speaker 3: Well, here's what Windhors said.
- 27:29Speaker 6: What I suspect is going to happen is that the
- 27:32Speaker 6: Bucks are going to deactivate Yiannis and not playing the
- 27:34Speaker 6: rest of the season or very close to not the
- 27:36Speaker 6: rest of the season because their future now is highly
- 27:39Speaker 6: dependent on their draft pick and Gianni's avoiding injury and
- 27:43Speaker 6: they've got to protect those legs. And so I want
- 27:46Speaker 6: to know how Yiannis is going to feel about potentially
- 27:49Speaker 6: being shut down for the season, not only not traded,
- 27:52Speaker 6: but maybe being shut down for the season, because that's
- 27:54Speaker 6: the tactically correct move for the Bucks going forward.
- 27:57Speaker 2: Yeah, here's my thought. I don't care what Yanis thinks anymore.
- 28:00Speaker 2: If you want out of here, then hey, feelings mutual, buddy,
- 28:03Speaker 2: sit down and we'll wait until the off season. But
- 28:05Speaker 2: here's what pissed me off. Did you see what Janna
- 28:08Speaker 2: sent out on Twitter yesterday?
- 28:09Speaker 4: No, he said this, hold on, Jesse, you just vomited.
- 28:18Speaker 4: He came back with a plate full of food. Don't
- 28:21Speaker 4: lie to the people in stats for me, He's got
- 28:23Speaker 4: like three croissants, bananas. You just vomited all over sam
- 28:27Speaker 4: Marine County. Take it easy.
- 28:30Speaker 2: Sorry, that's his version of boot and Rallies.
- 28:33Speaker 4: Sorry about that.
- 28:34Speaker 2: Janna sends this out, Legends don't chase, they attract, and
- 28:40Speaker 2: he puts the video of DiCaprio from Wolfe of Wall Street,
- 28:43Speaker 2: the I'm notut bleeping leaving video up there. And here's
- 28:46Speaker 2: what's hilarious to me. Is he trying to make it
- 28:49Speaker 2: sound like the Bucks were attempting to trade him against
- 28:52Speaker 2: his own will.
- 28:54Speaker 4: I have no idea, and I'm like, it's.
- 28:56Speaker 3: The most loser behavior.
- 28:58Speaker 2: You didn't get what you want and now you're going
- 29:00Speaker 2: to try and flip it and be like, ha told you,
- 29:03Speaker 2: guys can't get rid of me.
- 29:04Speaker 4: I love it here, dude, I'm telling you, he has transformed.
- 29:08Speaker 4: When he came into the league, he was, you know,
- 29:10Speaker 4: a shy dude from Greece who played butt off. Yeah yeah, yeah.
- 29:15Speaker 4: Every year that goes by all the demands he's made.
- 29:19Speaker 4: You know, I looked, I saw this three years ago.
- 29:21Speaker 4: I said, okay, I'm off this guy.
- 29:22Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 29:22Speaker 4: As soon as he demanded, he had it. And he's
- 29:24Speaker 4: surrounded by all his brothers on the roster. I'm like,
- 29:26Speaker 4: and then he said, I'm not playing without a star
- 29:29Speaker 4: player beside me. They go get dame, They three coaches
- 29:32Speaker 4: get fired during his stag Nah nah, I'm good. I'm
- 29:36Speaker 4: good on him. You can have that.
- 29:37Speaker 2: I hate it, and it just serves as a reminder
- 29:41Speaker 2: because sometimes this happens makes you look at your your
- 29:44Speaker 2: own backyard.
- 29:45Speaker 4: Right.
- 29:47Speaker 2: If there's anybody who's a superstar in this league that
- 29:50Speaker 2: could have complained about not getting enough help, it was
- 29:54Speaker 2: Jokic over the last few years.
- 29:56Speaker 4: It was.
- 29:56Speaker 2: I mean, how easily vic if he had this personality,
- 29:59Speaker 2: which he doesn't, thank god, could he have gone to
- 30:02Speaker 2: a podium and been like, faku compazo really like that
- 30:09Speaker 2: is what you're gonna give me?
- 30:10Speaker 4: Yeah? Yeah, in a roundabout way, it's so degrading to
- 30:15Speaker 4: your teammates. Yeah, when you say this stuff too, of course,
- 30:18Speaker 4: you're done of grading everybody around you, trying to help
- 30:21Speaker 4: you everybody. And that's what he's done. He's done so openly,
- 30:26Speaker 4: he's done so indirectly. He may not think he is,
- 30:28Speaker 4: but he is.
- 30:30Speaker 2: But you kind of like, especially with the season that
- 30:33Speaker 2: Jamal's having this year, you got two guys that just
- 30:35Speaker 2: they just do their.
- 30:36Speaker 3: Job, man, That's all they do. Do their job.
- 30:39Speaker 2: Don't complain when you ask, like Jokic, Hey, you dropped
- 30:42Speaker 2: sixty points, fifteen boards and fourteen assists to night, but
- 30:45Speaker 2: you guys lost.
- 30:45Speaker 3: What was the problem? What does he say I should
- 30:48Speaker 3: have done more in the fourth quarter or something.
- 30:49Speaker 4: See, I feel bad for Milwaukee because that's one of
- 30:51Speaker 4: those smaller markets where you get handed this superstar. Okay,
- 30:55Speaker 4: he's a mid first round draft pick, and he thrives,
- 30:58Speaker 4: he wins you a championship. Everybody's happy. And then when
- 31:01Speaker 4: he's unhappy, good luck getting another one of those to
- 31:04Speaker 4: go to Milwaukee. Yeah, good luck.
- 31:06Speaker 3: Yeah, you're I mean, you're screwed.
- 31:08Speaker 4: You're screwed. Yeah, you know. And again that's why I
- 31:12Speaker 4: think in Denver we should count our lucky stars. And
- 31:17Speaker 4: it's about time, By the way, I'm this is so
- 31:20Speaker 4: proper today to bring this up. It's about time we
- 31:25Speaker 4: in the Denver media, as much as we respect, love, admire,
- 31:29Speaker 4: cherish everything about nicolajkicch and we've done so for a
- 31:33Speaker 4: long time, I'm gonna give Jamal Murray his flowers and say,
- 31:39Speaker 4: you know what, he deserves a lot of the same
- 31:42Speaker 4: care with which we when we speaked about Nicolaijkicch and
- 31:46Speaker 4: what he means Jamal Murray deserves it too. Jamal Murray does,
- 31:50Speaker 4: and I don't think we do it enough.
- 31:53Speaker 3: Like Jamal.
- 31:53Speaker 2: The difference between him and Joker is like, Jamal can
- 31:58Speaker 2: get a little snippy if you provide instructive criticism, yeah,
- 32:01Speaker 2: or something like that.
- 32:02Speaker 4: Hey, listen, but you're preaching to the choir. No one
- 32:05Speaker 4: has had more awkward interactions with Jamal Murray than myself. Yeah,
- 32:09Speaker 4: it's been a problem, and I wish I could fix it.
- 32:12Speaker 4: At the same time, it's not going to stop me
- 32:14Speaker 4: from speaking the truth Jamal Murray. If Nicola Jokicch is
- 32:19Speaker 4: the most important player in Nugget's history, Jamal Murray's not
- 32:22Speaker 4: far behind. No, he's not. And it's about time. Imagine
- 32:27Speaker 4: how he feels Brett when every question, because I've seen
- 32:31Speaker 4: his reaction to this, and he's played the kind soul everybody. Hey,
- 32:35Speaker 4: how great is it playing next to Joker? How much
- 32:37Speaker 4: easier does he make the game for you? This? He's
- 32:40Speaker 4: done that his entire career, right, playing second fiddle and
- 32:43Speaker 4: having to talk about the greatness of Joker. And I'm
- 32:47Speaker 4: sure deep down he's like, Hey, I can play too.
- 32:50Speaker 2: You know, for sure he'll drop forty points, he'll hit
- 32:53Speaker 2: that postgame interview on the floor, and it's always something
- 32:56Speaker 2: like Nicola Jokic found you a lot tonight, what's it
- 32:59Speaker 2: like to play with the big fell out?
- 33:00Speaker 3: And it's like, I dropped forty.
- 33:02Speaker 4: Yeah, hey against the Knicks. They're not in that game.
- 33:04Speaker 4: If Jamal doesn't carry him in the first quarter, Yeah,
- 33:07Speaker 4: nobody else is doing anything.
- 33:09Speaker 3: I totally agree.
- 33:10Speaker 2: And it's always felt like because he's had whatever slow
- 33:14Speaker 2: starts the year, been a little inconsistent that people have
- 33:16Speaker 2: just jumped on him and he's never been given the
- 33:19Speaker 2: proper due for how much he means to the success
- 33:22Speaker 2: of this franchise.
- 33:24Speaker 3: Without him, you're you're screwed.
- 33:26Speaker 2: We watched that for two straight years when he was
- 33:28Speaker 2: out of the playoffs, you had no chance.
- 33:31Speaker 4: Why does pac keep interfering? Pat from Wichita, we're using
- 33:35Speaker 4: his state. He keeps interfering with our show like he
- 33:38Speaker 4: owns the joint he does it's his. Oh sorry, we're renting.
- 33:43Speaker 2: By the way, I saw a boy. Kevin Demoff was
- 33:45Speaker 2: just on Good Morning Football. He's running around there somewhere.
- 33:47Speaker 4: Yeah, he's gonna stop by Okay, he's gonna stop by
- 33:50Speaker 4: if you see Kevin. In fact, we got plenty to
- 33:53Speaker 4: talk to Kevin about.
- 33:55Speaker 2: Oh, he got some good news on his RAMS front
- 33:56Speaker 2: because he's got his quarterback back.
- 33:58Speaker 4: Yeah, and I want to talk to him about, uh,
- 34:00Speaker 4: the trip to Australia for the RAMS. See if I
- 34:03Speaker 4: can be a correspondent for that trip.
- 34:05Speaker 2: So we'll get to Yeah, we'll get to that a
- 34:07Speaker 2: little bit later. Three oh three, five, four nine two
- 34:10Speaker 2: five back after this.
- 34:11Speaker 3: It's about light football.
- 34:12Speaker 4: Friday.
- 34:12Speaker 2: VIC is down one last time in radio row in
- 34:16Speaker 2: San Francisco. I have a whole bunch of people we'll
- 34:18Speaker 2: talk to as the show goes along.
- 34:20Speaker 4: Today.
- 34:21Speaker 2: Did you happen to see yesterday Vict the waste Management
- 34:24Speaker 2: Phoenix open. First of all, they had a guy parachute
- 34:29Speaker 2: in during the national anthem before it started and he
- 34:31Speaker 2: ran directly into a boulder like that hurt.
- 34:34Speaker 4: Yeah, it's not a good start. And he did it
- 34:36Speaker 4: right before the jets flew over, And I'm like, uh,
- 34:38Speaker 4: what if he flies into a jet?
- 34:40Speaker 2: What if they do one of those things where they
- 34:42Speaker 2: like catch the parachute and just go screaming along. Secondly,
- 34:47Speaker 2: did you see Xander Shoffley's caddy. No, his yardage book
- 34:52Speaker 2: has a giant Bronco logo on there. Really, so we
- 34:55Speaker 2: got a Bronco fan in the I don't know if
- 34:56Speaker 2: it's Sander, but his caddy certainly is.
- 34:58Speaker 3: So we got that from yesterday.
- 35:00Speaker 4: My buddy who works for the PGA just sent me.
- 35:04Speaker 4: You met him when we were at BMW at the
- 35:07Speaker 4: Castle Pines. He sent me the race when they let
- 35:10Speaker 4: the fans into the tournament. Yeah, at the beginning of
- 35:13Speaker 4: every day and they're lined up. There's about a thousand kids,
- 35:17Speaker 4: boys lined up and they sprint to their area. Guys
- 35:21Speaker 4: are falling.
- 35:22Speaker 3: Is this a security guy?
- 35:24Speaker 4: Yeah? What did he say.
- 35:25Speaker 2: About that tournament? By the way, how many guys that
- 35:27Speaker 2: they had to kick out?
- 35:28Speaker 4: One hundred and twenty five They arrested on the Saturday.
- 35:33Speaker 4: The Saturday is the craziest.
- 35:34Speaker 2: This Saturday arrested, didn't even kick out, like, just arrested.
- 35:38Speaker 4: Well, they got him in the in the arrested. That cage.
- 35:41Speaker 4: There's like a cage. They throw them in there and
- 35:43Speaker 4: then the ones that are really bad they bring in
- 35:45Speaker 4: the other ones they let.
- 35:46Speaker 3: Them go, right, But it's crazy.
- 35:50Speaker 4: Oh, it's chaos. It's it's the craziest golf tournament on tour.
- 35:54Speaker 3: Yep, you went there last year, didn't you.
- 35:56Speaker 4: Yeah? I did. I've gone there a couple of times,
- 35:58Speaker 4: and I've had the privilege of sitting there at sixteen
- 36:02Speaker 4: watching these guys tee off, and it is so loud,
- 36:05Speaker 4: and I think it's the only tournament. It is the
- 36:07Speaker 4: only tournament where the decibel level it needs to be loud.
- 36:12Speaker 4: So when it's that loud, you don't even hear the loud. Yeah,
- 36:15Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. Yep, when you hear it
- 36:17Speaker 4: is when it's silent and then somebody like whispers. That's
- 36:20Speaker 4: what disrupts a golfer. But if it's that loud and
- 36:23Speaker 4: the dinner of the crowd is out there, doesn't hurt
- 36:26Speaker 4: you one bit.
- 36:26Speaker 3: I don't know why nobody gets this.
- 36:28Speaker 2: It's like, oh, well, baseball's not quiet and they still
- 36:31Speaker 2: hit the bit. Well, it's constant noise. It's like when
- 36:34Speaker 2: you watch the Live Tour they're playing music. There's no
- 36:37Speaker 2: problem with it because it's constant.
- 36:38Speaker 4: Yeah, there's nothing distracting, Like when a guy's at the
- 36:41Speaker 4: free throw line. It cracked me up because the crowd
- 36:43Speaker 4: gets really, really loud, and that doesn't really silent thing.
- 36:46Speaker 3: Silence be worse exactly.
- 36:48Speaker 4: I think being totally quiet would be tougher. I got
- 36:51Speaker 4: shoot you a free throw.
- 36:53Speaker 1: Uh.
- 36:53Speaker 2: By the way, if you're out on the road, like
- 36:57Speaker 2: I want to give a shout out. We we're running
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- 37:18Speaker 2: delivery people food delivery, and I said respect to them.
- 37:23Speaker 2: We're going out on that kind of day for some
- 37:25Speaker 2: dumb dumb who doesn't order enough food needs to bring
- 37:27Speaker 2: more to the party. I think be there should be
- 37:31Speaker 2: like a surcharge like you get when you leave like
- 37:33Speaker 2: concerts and stuff like that for ubers, needs to be
- 37:35Speaker 2: that for Super Bowl Sunday. Help those people out.
- 37:37Speaker 3: You leave them a big tip.
- 37:39Speaker 2: You're ordering food during that game, you leave a big
- 37:42Speaker 2: tip for those people. But you can catch that if
- 37:44Speaker 2: you're one of these guys, one of these uber eats
- 37:46Speaker 2: drivers or door dashers. Right here out to dud Sports Radio,
- 37:49Speaker 2: we'll have the game. Speaking of I had a question
- 37:52Speaker 2: surrounding Sam Darnold and how we evaluate quarterbacks. Sam Donald
- 37:59Speaker 2: had a miserable start to his career. He's bounced around
- 38:03Speaker 2: in the last four years. He's played for four different teams,
- 38:05Speaker 2: had a lot of success last year in Minnesota and
- 38:07Speaker 2: now a lot of success again in Seattle. To the
- 38:11Speaker 2: tune of he might be Super Bowl MVP Sam Donald
- 38:14Speaker 2: by Sunday.
- 38:14Speaker 3: Who knows?
- 38:17Speaker 2: Does this change the way that we evaluate quarterbacks?
- 38:20Speaker 3: And here's what I mean.
- 38:22Speaker 2: I think Sam Donald still got these opportunities because he
- 38:25Speaker 2: was an early first round pick.
- 38:26Speaker 3: Would you agree with that?
- 38:27Speaker 4: Sure?
- 38:28Speaker 2: Like if he if he's a fifth rounder and he
- 38:31Speaker 2: played the way he did in New York, he's probably
- 38:33Speaker 2: not getting the shot.
- 38:34Speaker 4: And he could make all the throws and we've seen
- 38:36Speaker 4: him do it before. Yeah, but.
- 38:40Speaker 2: It also has hindered him because he has this great
- 38:42Speaker 2: season in Minnesota and it feels like they don't believe
- 38:45Speaker 2: in it because of his previous history. But if he
- 38:49Speaker 2: wins a Super Bowl it almost feels like you could
- 38:51Speaker 2: wildly go the other way where it's like, well, now
- 38:53Speaker 2: we got to give him sixty million dollars a year
- 38:54Speaker 2: because he's won a super Bowl. But maybe he is
- 38:57Speaker 2: closer to the guy that he was earlier in his career.
- 38:59Speaker 4: Who knows what happened? So why what happened was he
- 39:02Speaker 4: was he thrust into a tough, unfortunate situation for a
- 39:05Speaker 4: bad franchise and coach the wrong way? What happened?
- 39:07Speaker 2: If I just said he played for the Jets, is
- 39:09Speaker 2: that a good enough excuse?
- 39:10Speaker 4: Yeah? Yeah, that is That is a good excuse.
- 39:14Speaker 3: Like, how do you do this?
- 39:16Speaker 4: Then?
- 39:16Speaker 2: How do you evaluate the situation that the guy is
- 39:20Speaker 2: put in at the beginning of his career, Because if
- 39:23Speaker 2: you look at a guy like Bryce Young in Carolina,
- 39:26Speaker 2: he gets drafted and they fire his coach like six
- 39:29Speaker 2: weeks into his rookie season, it's.
- 39:31Speaker 3: Pretty hard to have success.
- 39:33Speaker 2: Let's say he flames out, he will get another shot
- 39:35Speaker 2: somewhere to do this, and would you trust him ever again?
- 39:38Speaker 3: Because here's what happened with Minnesota. They didn't.
- 39:41Speaker 2: Did you happen to hear JJ not JJ McCarthy, justin
- 39:44Speaker 2: Jefferson talking about JJ McCarthy on a whole bunch of
- 39:47Speaker 2: those different shows there where you're at right now at
- 39:49Speaker 2: Radio Row.
- 39:50Speaker 3: Just listen to this for a second.
- 39:51Speaker 2: This is JJ McCarthy or Justin Jefferson on JJ McCarthy.
- 39:55Speaker 7: As of right now, JJ is my quarterback. So for
- 39:58Speaker 7: me is to get him to where we need to
- 40:01Speaker 7: we need to go, and uh it starts off right
- 40:03Speaker 7: now in offseason and get him better.
- 40:05Speaker 2: Now he dropped in as of right now he's my quarterback.
- 40:08Speaker 4: That does not sound promising.
- 40:12Speaker 2: He would had a follow up here. Kay Adams asked
- 40:14Speaker 2: him this question.
- 40:14Speaker 4: What is one thing fans can hang on to, one
- 40:18Speaker 4: really specific thing about JJ that gives you faith in
- 40:20Speaker 4: him for next year.
- 40:21Speaker 7: I mean, if you look at the film, you look
- 40:23Speaker 7: at the things that he done, I mean he's done
- 40:25Speaker 7: very good, good things. Obviously it wasn't the most spectacular thing. Obviously,
- 40:31Speaker 7: you know, those are things that he understands and we
- 40:34Speaker 7: all understand as a building that there are some things
- 40:37Speaker 7: to work on. But JJ is a really good quarterback.
- 40:40Speaker 7: He's a really good guy.
- 40:41Speaker 2: He's a really good guy. I mean, you saw the
- 40:44Speaker 2: tape he was asked, but he's a really good guy.
- 40:48Speaker 3: And I like how she said, what is one specific.
- 40:52Speaker 4: Thing, one thing? I don't care what it is. He
- 40:55Speaker 4: maybe bring he makes good brownie. Well you need one thing.
- 40:58Speaker 4: He just started filibustering. Yeah, the tape. He's a guy,
- 41:02Speaker 4: good dude quarterback.
- 41:03Speaker 2: I just I don't know what you do because I
- 41:06Speaker 2: think part of what happened in Minnesota was they thought, well,
- 41:09Speaker 2: it's Kevin O'Connell that made Sam Donald, so he'll be
- 41:12Speaker 2: able to do that with JJ McCarthy.
- 41:14Speaker 3: And you just can't. I don't know if anything changes
- 41:17Speaker 3: from that.
- 41:18Speaker 4: You know, one thing that may change. We were discussing
- 41:20Speaker 4: this last night because we ran into Matt Leiner one
- 41:22Speaker 4: of these parties. He's walking around and Matt and Ryan
- 41:26Speaker 4: would just sort of glaring at each other. Big Notre
- 41:29Speaker 4: Dame USC rivals is Matt.
- 41:32Speaker 2: He's on the Brady Quinn pregame show, Fox on Noonoff,
- 41:36Speaker 2: the Big Noon Fox Off.
- 41:38Speaker 3: That's right.
- 41:39Speaker 4: But if Matt if Donald wins, Matt Sam Donald wins
- 41:46Speaker 4: the Super Bowl, is he regarded as the greatest USC
- 41:50Speaker 4: quarterback ever? Because I'm trying to think a USC quarterbacks
- 41:55Speaker 4: never won a Super Bowl. Carson Palmer won a Heisman Trophy.
- 42:02Speaker 4: Pat Hayden won championship.
- 42:05Speaker 3: He's pretty good.
- 42:06Speaker 4: Oh, I know, I know. I think right now, greatest
- 42:09Speaker 4: USC quarterbacks Carson Palmer, Matt Liner. Right, Matt Liner more
- 42:12Speaker 4: for what he did in college than in the pros.
- 42:15Speaker 4: But where do you stop evaluating? You evaluate into the
- 42:19Speaker 4: pros or in college?
- 42:20Speaker 2: Sanchez made two AFC title games.
- 42:22Speaker 3: I don't think it's because.
- 42:23Speaker 4: Of never want to never won a Super Bowl again? Uh?
- 42:27Speaker 4: Sam Donald would be the first USC quarterback to win
- 42:31Speaker 4: a Super Bowl? Yeah, and would that make him the
- 42:35Speaker 4: best USC quarterback of all time? Man probably puts them
- 42:45Speaker 4: up there until Caleb Williams takes over.
- 42:48Speaker 2: Hey, Caleb Williams have a shot, put him up there.
- 42:52Speaker 2: Carson Palmer is still for now.
- 42:54Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, I don't disagree with you, because Carson Palmer
- 42:57Speaker 4: took a Wolbegone franchise and made them relevant. Right, But
- 43:00Speaker 4: you can turn Cincinnati into something pretty damn impressive. And
- 43:03Speaker 4: he did it before became vogue.
- 43:05Speaker 3: And then he did it by going it was Area Arizona.
- 43:08Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, yeah, he did it twice. So Rodney Pete, eh,
- 43:14Speaker 4: he was mostly a backup. Yeah, Rodney was a backup
- 43:18Speaker 4: in the pros. I mean Darnold has taken this and
- 43:21Speaker 4: again to become the first from your college to do it.
- 43:24Speaker 4: And that's a prominent college, by the way.
- 43:26Speaker 2: That's crazy to me. Is there another school that's like that,
- 43:31Speaker 2: like prominent college, blue blood school that's never had a
- 43:35Speaker 2: quarterback start a Super Bowl?
- 43:37Speaker 4: But let's think about it. Give me some prominent colleges.
- 43:41Speaker 4: Penn State, Penn State had Todd Blackledge in he never
- 43:46Speaker 4: he never got to the Super Bowl. I mean, now
- 43:51Speaker 4: you're going to have to start googling names. Penn State
- 43:53Speaker 4: probably doesn't have. Penn State doesn't have one. I can't
- 43:59Speaker 4: state quarterback now. Penn State's not known for its It's
- 44:03Speaker 4: not quarterback. You either, more running backs, linebackers. It's not
- 44:07Speaker 4: exactly quarterback. You.
- 44:10Speaker 2: Hang on, let me see this. Big time colleges have
- 44:15Speaker 2: never had a QB win a Super Bowl. Let's just
- 44:18Speaker 2: see if AI can collect the winner.
- 44:20Speaker 4: Start.
- 44:23Speaker 2: I said, win Okay, Ohio State historically known for lee talent,
- 44:29Speaker 2: they've never had a Super Bowl winning quarterback.
- 44:32Speaker 4: Interesting, Texas, I was about to say Texas. I was
- 44:37Speaker 4: thinking Texas because the history of Texas quarterbacks and I
- 44:40Speaker 4: cannot think of one right now. At the top of
- 44:43Speaker 4: my head has won a Super Bowl.
- 44:45Speaker 2: And let's say start so, yeah, Texas, Ohio State.
- 44:52Speaker 4: Oh, Kerry Collins playing in the Super Bowl. Thank you, Texas,
- 44:54Speaker 4: Kerry Collins, Carolina, that's right, he's a Penn State guy.
- 45:01Speaker 4: You're exactly right.
- 45:02Speaker 2: It Nebraska's listed on here. But there's the option quarterback Texas.
- 45:07Speaker 4: Scott Frost isn't going to the Super Bowl.
- 45:10Speaker 2: Wait a minute, Wait a minute. Yeah, would you be
- 45:12Speaker 2: surprised to hear? Because this has been a quarterback factory
- 45:15Speaker 2: over the last twenty years.
- 45:16Speaker 4: Give me the team Oregon. Oregon's never had one. I
- 45:22Speaker 4: guess Dan Foux never got to the Super Bowl, Joey
- 45:26Speaker 4: har Harrington never got to the Super Bowl.
- 45:30Speaker 2: Bone Nicks was close, Marcus Mariota, Bo Nicks, Justin Herbert,
- 45:35Speaker 2: none of them.
- 45:36Speaker 4: Wow, that is crazy. You're right. And it's been a
- 45:39Speaker 4: quarterback factory. That's unreal.
- 45:43Speaker 3: Man, that's wild. But yeah, Texas.
- 45:47Speaker 4: So you think, let's let's go which university has produced
- 45:52Speaker 4: the most Super Bowl championships. It's got to be Michigan
- 45:54Speaker 4: and Brady Well yeah, remove that though. Yeah, if you
- 45:58Speaker 4: remove that, then what.
- 45:59Speaker 2: Is college with the most Super.
- 46:03Speaker 4: Bowl I could think of some I can think of Stanford. Clearly,
- 46:11Speaker 4: Stanford did it with l Way, Notre Dame did it
- 46:14Speaker 4: with Montana.
- 46:15Speaker 2: There is no way you'd guess the school with the
- 46:17Speaker 2: most individual starting Super Bowl quarterbacks.
- 46:24Speaker 3: It's cal.
- 46:27Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers, Jared Goff, Craig Morton, Joe Cap, Vince Veragama.
- 46:33Speaker 4: Huh yeah, they've got the most, just in numbers. That's
- 46:36Speaker 4: a good point. Yeah, Wow, that's crazy super Bowl trivia
- 46:42Speaker 4: this all day. Yeah.
- 46:44Speaker 2: Well, VI's down there live at Radio Row in San Francisco.
- 46:47Speaker 3: One final time.
- 46:47Speaker 4: Yeah, can you do Alabama?
- 46:52Speaker 2: Alabama's quarterbacks? Yeah, well, Jalen Hurds Okay, Nameth Nameth.
- 46:58Speaker 4: People forget name it. Like when you think it, Joe,
- 47:00Speaker 4: name it, you think of an East Coast. I don't
- 47:02Speaker 4: think of Alabama me either, you know what I'm saying.
- 47:05Speaker 4: And so he gets lost in translation. That is true.
- 47:07Speaker 4: It's like my cousin Vinny. He just showed up there. Yeah,
- 47:10Speaker 4: and he's sleeping next to a railroad station and he
- 47:13Speaker 4: shows up and he's the Alabama quarterback.
- 47:15Speaker 3: By the way, most wins is Michigan with seven.
- 47:20Speaker 4: All of them.
- 47:20Speaker 2: Tom Brady of course, all of them. So here's the
- 47:24Speaker 2: other ones. Bama has we said Hurts, Nameth Stabler, and
- 47:28Speaker 2: Bart Starr. Okay, Purdue is next on this list.
- 47:32Speaker 4: Purdue produce got uh greasy yep, the elder greasy Uh,
- 47:38Speaker 4: Drew Brees, Drew Brees and hold on, hold on, don't
- 47:42Speaker 4: tell me recent or or or way back early early
- 47:47Speaker 4: early early early, tell me like the first one, Bart Star,
- 47:53Speaker 4: he's not a Purdue guy. Len Dawson, Len, Len Dawson,
- 47:57Speaker 4: History book, Len.
- 48:00Speaker 7: Go to a history.
- 48:01Speaker 2: The other ones tied with Purdue for three are your school?
- 48:04Speaker 2: Notre Dame's had three. This should be easy for you.
- 48:08Speaker 3: Joe Montana, Yeah, andreferent quarterbacks.
- 48:14Speaker 4: You have one Super Bowl or played in the Super
- 48:16Speaker 4: Bowl that.
- 48:16Speaker 2: Have played in.
- 48:18Speaker 4: Okay, Joe Montana played in one. Oh God, Paul Horning,
- 48:28Speaker 4: but well he did. He played multiple positions, played running back, quarterback,
- 48:34Speaker 4: He played a lot of different positions.
- 48:35Speaker 3: Broken leg.
- 48:40Speaker 4: And Steve burrlines. Steve Berlin played in one. He was
- 48:44Speaker 4: a backup.
- 48:44Speaker 2: Who was Darryl L Monica and then l s U
- 48:47Speaker 2: has had three. They've had David Woodley, Stan Humphries and
- 48:51Speaker 2: Joe Burrow.
- 48:53Speaker 4: You we just went we did. Yes's a power Rake
- 49:00Speaker 4: All time Super Bowl schools Andy.
- 49:03Speaker 3: Andy, give me your top three. Darryls uh three oh three,
- 49:07Speaker 3: five oh four oh nine two five back after the