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The Franklin Method: Turn Conflict Into Conversation · Grandpa Bill's Podcast

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  SPEAKER_00: Well, hello, and welcome back to another edition of the BH Sales Holistic Healing Hour with your host and moderator, me, Grandpa Bill.
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  SPEAKER_00: Welcome to another edition of the Main Daily Digest.
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  SPEAKER_00: And we're going to segue right in.
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  SPEAKER_00: This is going to be a tad longer wherever you come in.
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  SPEAKER_00: October the 5th.
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  SPEAKER_00: This is a follow-up to an earlier video overview talking about Benjamin Franklin.
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  SPEAKER_00: And how he actually early in his life was actually perceived and told pretty much to his face that he was arrogant and overbearing.
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  SPEAKER_00: So what I'm gonna do here is it's kind of two parts contained within the same episode.
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  SPEAKER_00: I'm gonna continue with what I outlined video wise at an earlier taping on the 4th of October.
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  SPEAKER_00: And then when I finish that part of the continuation, I'm going to do a mnemonic person action object memory palace with a fictional adaptation of utilizing her real University of Southern Main campus, the buildings within, making it a fictional subject for my granddaughter Ada, and embellishing the person action object major system memory palace by having Ben Franklin be a speaker in their auditorium talking about this very subject for what would be fictionally within Ada's speech class under that premise.
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  SPEAKER_00: So thanks for being patient, and wherever you come in, we hope you can put the puzzle together, and we appreciate your effort in doing so.
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  SPEAKER_00: So very deep calming breath.
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  SPEAKER_00: Kind of a quick synopsis of where I went on the video, and we'll go right into the continuation here audio wise.
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  SPEAKER_00: Benjamin Franklin intentional shift away from dogmatism toward studied humility is one of the most practical master classes in diplomacy and persuasion that have ever been documented.
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  SPEAKER_00: Now this plays to one of my many bucket list history in and of itself.
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  SPEAKER_00: So in Ben Franklin's autobiography, Franklin himself explicitly details how he made a conscious effort to add humility to his list of thirteen virtues after a Quaker friend kindly informed him that he was often overbearing and arrogant in conversation.
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  SPEAKER_00: To cultivate it, he adopted the intellectual posture of Socrates and the gentle spirit of Jesus, systemically stripping his vocabulary of absolute words like certainly quotation marks here in the audio studio.
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  SPEAKER_00: Curly three stooges, if you will.
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  SPEAKER_00: Why certainly grab the bell goofing around.
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  SPEAKER_00: Undoubtedly in parentheses for approved.
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  SPEAKER_00: And that should be quotation marks for undoubtedly and proved.
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  SPEAKER_00: So certainly quotation marks undoubtedly or proved, samples of words that Ben Franklin actually changed.
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  SPEAKER_00: So the Franklin method of softening the speech in that instance, instead of asserting facts directly, Ben Franklin trained himself to frame his thoughts through modest non confrontational phrasing, again using quotation fingers verbatim.
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  SPEAKER_00: It appears to me quotations I imagine it to be so quotations.
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  SPEAKER_00: If I am not mistaken, one more quotations, this is his quotations at that time frame.
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  SPEAKER_00: One more.
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  SPEAKER_00: I should apprehend the case to be.
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  SPEAKER_00: Let me repeat those quickly.
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  SPEAKER_00: All in quotations.
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  SPEAKER_00: It appears to me I imagine it to be so.
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  SPEAKER_00: If I am not mistaken, I should apprehend the case to be.
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  SPEAKER_00: Hope you all are doing well, whatever time frame, wherever you hang your hats around the world.
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  SPEAKER_00: It is October 5th here at just about 1 twelve AM Eastern Standard Time from the great state of Maine.
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  SPEAKER_00: And again, thank you for being here and continue to pay it forward.
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  SPEAKER_00: We appreciate your efforts in doing so.
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  SPEAKER_00: So deep calm in breath.
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  SPEAKER_00: Why it worked for Franklin?
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  SPEAKER_00: Because he established the dynamics of non-threatening dialogue.
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  SPEAKER_00: So he eliminates immediate defensiveness by whomever, his fellow constituents on the political horizon at that time, and in his community and everything else that this brilliant man encountered in his life.
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  SPEAKER_00: So stating a view as an absolute truth forces the listener into a binary choice agree or fight.
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  SPEAKER_00: So softened language framed as personal perception lowers the emotional stakes and invites dialogue rather than debate.
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  SPEAKER_00: So another point that he made was preserving the opportunity of the opponent's pride, respecting that.
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  SPEAKER_00: So by allowing room for himself to be wrong, Franklin made it easy for his interlokers to change their minds without losing face or feeling defeated.
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  SPEAKER_00: For those of you that might not be familiar, interlokers is kind of like an intermediary go between and or whomever you may be speaking to directly.
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  SPEAKER_00: So something else that he established is building a consensus machine.
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  SPEAKER_00: During the Constitutional Convention in this crucial diplomatic mission to France, this approach that he created allowed Franklin to unite wildly wildly in those days, disparate factions.
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  SPEAKER_00: It was the then version of the Jerry Springer show.
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  SPEAKER_00: Grab a bell goofing around.
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  SPEAKER_00: No chairs.
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  SPEAKER_00: So on a serious note, continuing, because he really attacked anyone's pride head on, people felt heard and respected.
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  SPEAKER_00: You actually make them defenseless.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's a dim disarmament technique.
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  SPEAKER_00: It would be a great attribute to use in any era of time.
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  SPEAKER_00: In the history, my favorite subject, one of certainly in the present world.
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  SPEAKER_00: So turning potential adversaries into collaborative partners.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's a deep calming breath.
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  SPEAKER_00: Here's a little bit of a synthesis of Benjamin Franklin's humility method, combining its practical application in daily communication with the underlying psychological mechanisms that make it so effective.
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  SPEAKER_00: Practical application reframing your vocabulary, my vocabulary, our vocabulary, vocabulary.
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  SPEAKER_00: Franklin's core tactic was replacing absolute assertions with open ended perceptive statements optimum word in daily interactions.
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  SPEAKER_00: The shift I'm gonna do my best, hopefully, here will sound and what it will look like is if you took an absolute slash assertive high friction term in those days, especially again quotation fingers verbatim Franklin at the time.
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  SPEAKER_00: That won't work because again we're giving examples of what was perceived as absolute assertive high friction.
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  SPEAKER_00: Again, verbatim quotation under that premise, then you're wrong about that.
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  SPEAKER_00: One more.
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  SPEAKER_00: This is the best solution.
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  SPEAKER_00: I'm sorry.
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  SPEAKER_00: One more after that.
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  SPEAKER_00: Obviously, the data proves.
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  SPEAKER_00: So let me repeat those.
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  SPEAKER_00: That's confrontational.
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  SPEAKER_00: That's what he was accused of being, and those are examples of the ways that he actually addressed folks before it was brought to his attention and he corrected it.
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  SPEAKER_00: So absolute, assertive high friction, one more time, the four quotes under that premise.
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  SPEAKER_00: All quotations.
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  SPEAKER_00: That won't work because you're wrong about that.
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  SPEAKER_00: This is the best solution proves.
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  SPEAKER_00: Now let's go to his resolutions to those one at a time.
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  SPEAKER_00: So I'll single them out again.
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  SPEAKER_00: So taking the absolute assertive high friction Franklin, if you will, to the Franklin soft approach, low friction, high friction versus low friction.
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  SPEAKER_00: So the first direct quote again under the high assertive Franklin friction.
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  SPEAKER_00: Well that won't work because here's the softened Franklin low friction.
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  SPEAKER_00: It appears to me that we might run into a challenge with deep calming breath.
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  SPEAKER_00: We're playing a little ping pong here, if you will.
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  SPEAKER_00: Now going over to the absolute assertive high friction Franklin.
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  SPEAKER_00: Well you're wrong about that.
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  SPEAKER_00: Ping pong, here's the return.
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  SPEAKER_00: Franklin's softened friction.
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  SPEAKER_00: If I'm not mistaken, there might be another factor to consider.
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  SPEAKER_00: Now him returning the ball to yourself, ping pong was, if you will, if you're playing along at home, under the absolute assertive high friction Franklin in the day, this is the best solution.
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  SPEAKER_00: Low friction Franklin's retort now and then after he became a new man.
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  SPEAKER_00: I apprehend the case to be that this direction yields the best outcome.
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  SPEAKER_00: Him serving back the proverbial ping pong ball, back to the friction Franklin, high friction Franklin, if you will, obviously the data proves the low friction Franklin, I imagine it to be based on the current data.
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  SPEAKER_00: Very deep calm in breath.
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  SPEAKER_00: So in that example, hopefully, the underlying psychological framework is that Franklin's approach works because it aligns directly with the key principles of human psyche, psychology, and group dynamics.
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  SPEAKER_00: We'll get Byron Athene, who's a specialist in the category, to interject on that.
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  SPEAKER_00: After we finish our campaign A to Z, we categories up Big Good Fodder, when Byron and I finished the letter Z in January, for those of you that joined the show.
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  SPEAKER_00: Byron Athene, psychotherapist, psychoanalyst from the United Kingdom.
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  SPEAKER_00: We're currently on he's joined me since 2023, each and every last Thursday of the month.
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  SPEAKER_00: And we're currently finishing up, I think we're on letter 21, as it becomes on the 29th of October, and we're going to be talking about a very unique week, W-E-E-K for the W calendar, that follows up our last show.
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  SPEAKER_00: I'll let you all check that out archivally.
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  SPEAKER_00: That will be the W, and then as October, I'm sorry, as November becomes, there'll be the X category, whatever that will be for a subject, then December, Y, and as January becomes, Z will finish our campaign with Zen.
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  SPEAKER_00: So Byron and I plan on working together next calendar year, so somewhere along the way, we'll get Byron to shed some light on this from a professional psychologist's side.
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  SPEAKER_00: So let me bounce back.
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  SPEAKER_00: So fostering a psychological safety by framing statements as perceptions rather than absolute truth, you lower threat levels in the conversation.
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  SPEAKER_00: Interlokers feel safe to share ideas or admit mistakes without fear of public humiliation or hostility.
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  SPEAKER_00: There is none.
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  SPEAKER_00: There is none.
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  SPEAKER_00: The world is a church.
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  SPEAKER_00: Open the dialogue.
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  SPEAKER_00: Continuing here, mitigating cognitive dissonance.
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  SPEAKER_00: When someone's core belief or work is directly attacked, quotation fingers, well, you're wrong.
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  SPEAKER_00: Their brain triggers a defensive friction, dissonance.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's a normal human, it's the way we were trained, unfortunately, to protect the ego.
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  SPEAKER_00: So softening language bypasses their reflex to do so, allowing them to evaluate the idea rather than defend their self-image.
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  SPEAKER_00: And without harboring the point of debate when there was one, maybe as far back as Lincoln Douglas or high school debate, the point is exactly that point counterpoint, to make a relevant point, key points that each other actually gains a new knowledge, but establishes a new point for the benefit of all.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's dialogue.
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  SPEAKER_00: So applying the Franklin effect by asking questions, showing intellectual openness and thinking the input, seeking the input of others, Franklin subtly placed interluders in a position of mentorship and or collaboration, if not both.
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  SPEAKER_00: Everybody gets along and plays nice in the sandbox, if you will.
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  SPEAKER_00: People naturally like and trust each other.
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  SPEAKER_00: Imagine that.
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  SPEAKER_00: Those who make them feel valued and capable.
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  SPEAKER_00: You stroke my back, I'll stroke yours.
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  SPEAKER_01: There's nothing wrong with that.
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  SPEAKER_00: Maya Copa and all of it.
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  SPEAKER_00: So core operational benefits, it defuses defensiveness, it eliminates binary quotation fingers, win lose arguments, and reframes interactions as shared problem solving.
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  SPEAKER_00: It preserves pride and it allows others to pivot or adapt their way gracefully without losing face.
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  SPEAKER_00: And it builds persuasive capital counterintuitively speaking with modest probability increases your authority, my authority, our authority, and trustworthiness in those situations, making people far more willing to align with your opinion, my opinion, our opinions, suggestions, what have you.
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  SPEAKER_00: Camaradery.
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  SPEAKER_00: Deep coming breath.
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  SPEAKER_00: Practical application to reframe vocabulary under this premise.
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  SPEAKER_00: Franklin's core tactic was replacing absolute assertions with open ended perceptive statements in daily interactions then, which certainly carries over into now.
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  SPEAKER_00: In any decade moving forward, in a community environment, in daily interaction, in a civil environment, this shift would look like going from the absolute assertive friction Franklin, that won't work because again, repeating, to the soft approach, low friction, it appears to me that we might run into a challenge with.
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  SPEAKER_00: With.
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  SPEAKER_00: Then the friction, again, repeating it, you're wrong about that.
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  SPEAKER_00: Then the soft.
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  SPEAKER_00: If I am not mistaken, there might be another factor to consider.
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  SPEAKER_00: Then the friction franklin.
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  SPEAKER_00: This is the best solution.
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  SPEAKER_00: The soft friction, Franklin.
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  SPEAKER_00: I append, I'm sorry, apprehend the case to be that this direction yields the best outcome.
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  SPEAKER_00: One more time on the friction, Franklin.
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  SPEAKER_00: Say that three times fast.
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  SPEAKER_00: Obviously, the data proves.
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  SPEAKER_00: Soft friction, Franklin.
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  SPEAKER_00: I imagine it to be based on the current data.
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  SPEAKER_00: So the underlying psychological framework, Franklin's approach, works because it aligns directly with the key principles of human psychology and group dynamics, fostering psychological safety by framing safety and statements as such and perceived as such, and the perceptions to be as such, and to align absolute truth.
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  SPEAKER_00: You lower threat levels in the conversation, interlucus feel safe to share ideas or admit mistakes, they come out of their show also, if you will.
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  SPEAKER_00: The defensive spine, pork pine spines go back down, if you will, without fear of public humiliation or hostility.
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  SPEAKER_00: Mitigating cognitive dissonance when someone's core belief or work is directly attacked, you're wrong, quotation fingers, five minutes less.
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  SPEAKER_00: Again, closing out to their ego, softening language by passing this reflex, allowing them to evaluate the idea rather than defend their soft image.
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  SPEAKER_00: Applying the Franklin effect by asking questions, showing intellectual openness in seeking the input of others.
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  SPEAKER_00: Franklin Sudley places interlocutors in a position of mentorship or collaboration.
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  SPEAKER_00: People naturally like and trust those who might make them feel valued and capable, and who indeed do make them feel that way.
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  SPEAKER_00: The core operational benefits is again it defuses defensiveness, eliminating binary win or lose arguments and reframes interactions as shared problem solving.
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  SPEAKER_00: It preserves pride, it allows others to pivot or adapt their view gracefully without losing face.
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  SPEAKER_00: It builds persuasive capital.
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  SPEAKER_00: Counterintuitively speaking, with model and modest model probability, increases yours, mind and hours authority and trustworthiness, making people far more willing to align with your mind and hours suggestions.
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  SPEAKER_00: Okay, quickly, the PAO major memory palace featuring my granddaughter Ada in her USM Portland main cabinet and campus.
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  SPEAKER_00: Not the cabinet, but there's a few cabinets contained within.
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  SPEAKER_00: Here we go, deep calming breath.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I'll review what the major system entails in another audio show, so bear with me here in lieu of time.
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  SPEAKER_00: In this palace, Ada represents key numbers in the major system performing specific actions on distinct options and objects associated with Benjamin Franklin's diplomatic phrases.
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  SPEAKER_00: Again, obviously fictionally, and we're going to create it being a fictional course speech on her real campus, and Ben Franklin's going to be featured.
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  SPEAKER_00: So I'll get into the numbering in the next audio show, but here's Ada tapping her finger, tapping ribbon on a teapot, softening heat.
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  SPEAKER_00: Her nose, Franklin's Socratic for Socrates' nose, using it as a memory palace, we've talked about that archivally.
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  SPEAKER_00: Ben Franklin, softening and racening sharp edges, Socrates statue, these are memory palaces.
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  SPEAKER_00: Speech instructor, mirroring and reflecting back speech microphone.
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  SPEAKER_00: So the memory palace USM campus speech and communication wing, the Luther Bonnie Hall, a real building on the campus.
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  SPEAKER_00: So the PAO image for Ada standing at the base of the concrete steps, tapping her finger in a steady major system rhythm against a glowing teapot, vapor swirls from the spout of the teapot, softening the crisp main air.
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  SPEAKER_00: As the steam clears, it gently illuminates a sign above the door that reads, quotation fingers, it appears to me.
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  SPEAKER_00: The sensory overlay of the acronym for those of you that joined the show.
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  SPEAKER_00: This is the COGS conceptual olfactory gustatory spatial.
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  SPEAKER_00: The steam represents visual perception over absolute reality.
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  SPEAKER_00: Warm, smooth, soothing peppermint tea is the olfactory.
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  SPEAKER_00: The gustatory is a gentle, subtle hint of sweet mint, and the spatial is the broad open concrete steps leading upward into clear sight lines.
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  SPEAKER_00: The wish camper center atrium, real part of the campus, the target phrase in quotation marks, if I am not mistaken, the PAO action Ben Franklin sitting on a bench, sitting on a park bench, Jeff will tell, but it's Ben Franklin here, softening the sharp marble edges of a Socrates statue using a velvet cloth.
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  SPEAKER_00: He looks up at Ada and her classmates offering a modest nod as it double checking his work as if he were Let's wrap up walking.
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  SPEAKER_00: You are a hundred percent.
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  SPEAKER_00: If I am mistaken in quotation fingers.
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  SPEAKER_00: The gustatory is crisp spring water, tourmaline spring right here in Maine.
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  SPEAKER_00: Spatial soaring glass atrium with light echoing across high walls.
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  SPEAKER_00: The Wishcamper Classroom Podium I apprehend the case to be is the target phrase in quotation marks.
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  SPEAKER_00: The image is the space instructor, I'm sorry, speech instructor standing at the main mahogany podium, that's M A I N connotation to Maine, in Maine stayed up, but at the main mahogany podium mirroring Ada's posture while adjusting a vintage microphone before giving feedback to the debate panel.
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  SPEAKER_00: The instructor pauses, leaning into the mic to state quotation fingers, I apprehend the case to be the conceptual framing analysis as an ongoing mental capture rather than a final verdict.
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  SPEAKER_00: Fresh dry erased markers and oak woodwork.
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  SPEAKER_00: The gustatory is a brick smooth sip of clean air.
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  SPEAKER_00: I'm gonna take a pause here, hopefully, short one to yourself as I gotta go to another taping that I'm doing.
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  SPEAKER_00: We'll take what hopefully will be about a 30-second break to yourself, and we'll be right back.
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  SPEAKER_00: Okay, welcome back.
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  SPEAKER_00: I'm gonna highlight the major system with the numbers zero through nine, with zero being a soft C, S or Z sound.
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  SPEAKER_00: The numeral one is a D or a T.
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  SPEAKER_00: The numeral two is an N.
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  SPEAKER_00: The numeral three is M.
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  SPEAKER_00: The numeral four is R.
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  SPEAKER_00: The number five is L.
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  SPEAKER_00: The number six is C H J or S H.
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  SPEAKER_00: Number seven is K.
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  SPEAKER_00: Number eight is F and B.
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  SPEAKER_00: That's Frank and Victor.
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  SPEAKER_00: Number nine is B and P and Cave Hogs.
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  SPEAKER_00: The K equals kinesthetic.
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  SPEAKER_00: The A equals auditory.
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  SPEAKER_00: The V equals visual.
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  SPEAKER_00: The E equals emotional.
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  SPEAKER_00: The C equals conceptual.
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  SPEAKER_00: The O equals olfactory.
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  SPEAKER_00: The G equals gustatory.
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  SPEAKER_00: And the S equals spatial.
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  SPEAKER_00: Because I'm getting feedback, it's very disconcerting.
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  SPEAKER_00: So I'm gonna end this show on that note.
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  SPEAKER_00: We will continue with the rest of Ada and Ben Franklin at USM Campus in another daily show.
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  SPEAKER_00: So stay tuned for that.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I'm gonna dig you all adieu.
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  SPEAKER_00: Thank you for your continued support.
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  SPEAKER_00: Keep paying it forward.
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  SPEAKER_00: We'll say bye-bye for now.
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  SPEAKER_00: Peace, everybody.