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Federal Bureau of Investigation - part 3 · Trapped Souls Podcast

• 0:00
  SPEAKER_01: Now, here's another question for you, Ryan.
• 0:04
  SPEAKER_01: We've got a school in the flip the flip the screen.
• 0:09
  SPEAKER_01: We've got an old school.
• 0:11
  SPEAKER_01: It's in Fellsbury, that tiny little town out west, uh, built in 1916.
• 0:17
  SPEAKER_01: Uh never tragedy there.
• 0:19
  SPEAKER_01: Never a no child has ever died there, nothing's ever occurred there where a child has died.
• 0:25
  SPEAKER_01: Yet we have ample pieces of evidence that that place is filled with kids.
• 0:33
  SPEAKER_01: Why are there kids there if they've never nobody's ever had a tragedy there?
• 0:38
  SPEAKER_01: What's your opinion?
• 0:41
  SPEAKER_00: So I believe spirits always go back to the place that they're most comfortable with.
• 0:45
  SPEAKER_01: Boom.
• 0:47
  SPEAKER_01: He's he's right on power on course with us there.
• 0:50
  SPEAKER_01: Yep.
• 0:51
  SPEAKER_00: All right.
• 0:51
  SPEAKER_00: So I mean, if that was their favorite place, and we can go back to like haunted objects, pianos, desk.
• 0:58
  SPEAKER_00: Why would a piano be the most haunted, you know, be attached to by a spirit?
• 1:04
  SPEAKER_00: Because that's where they were their happiest time is when they were creating that music.
• 1:11
  SPEAKER_00: Maybe they had something on the side that when they played that piano, it made them forget about real life.
• 1:19
  SPEAKER_00: That was their happiest moment, just like death when people were writing books, that was their happiest time that took them out of reality of what is going around in their life.
• 1:30
  SPEAKER_00: So when you pass, you're gonna go back to your happiest, most comfortable place as you were at the same age.
• 1:38
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that's yeah.
• 1:40
  SPEAKER_02: Now, with that being said, say you passed away at 60 years old.
• 1:50
  SPEAKER_02: How does that energy go back to six years old?
• 1:55
  SPEAKER_00: It's what it's I mean, we always talked about your mind is your most powerful thing, yeah.
• 2:01
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, dude, I know a lot of energy to hear now.
• 2:04
  SPEAKER_00: We said spirits were energy, and I I know a lot of six-year-olds have a six-year-old mind, dude.
• 2:10
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, so hey, I know a 67-year-old with a six-year-old mind.
• 2:15
  SPEAKER_01: But but I I think I think I think it's just my opinion.
• 2:21
  SPEAKER_01: I think you're putting the uh the spirit realm into a uh into a pigeonhole here.
• 2:27
  SPEAKER_01: If it's a spirit if it's a ethereal energy, then it goes back to the way it was, where it was, how it was.
• 2:33
  SPEAKER_01: It's not doesn't have to look like we do now, right?
• 2:37
  SPEAKER_01: Um, so that's that's my thinking on that.
• 2:40
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, if I die, do I want to look like this?
• 2:43
  SPEAKER_00: No, overweight, balling.
• 2:44
  SPEAKER_00: No, I don't want to look like this.
• 2:46
  SPEAKER_00: I want to go back to when I was my prime, you know.
• 2:50
  SPEAKER_01: So I mean, and there's there's there's lots of uh ev evidence for lack of a better term, or or stories of that where people have seen loved ones die, but they looked like they did when they were in their 30s when the spirit came back.
• 3:02
  SPEAKER_01: So I I don't know that really you've you're stuck with the the body for lack of or the visual effects that you have when you pass.
• 3:11
  SPEAKER_01: I think it I think that can be changed because it's just energy.
• 3:16
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, think about like a hundred-year-old that's you know dying in pain, you know, whatever they're dying from, cancer, you know, failure, you know, do they die and have to stay in their same form and live that?
• 3:32
  SPEAKER_00: Are they gonna go back to where they were the most bad news for you, Spanky?
• 3:36
  SPEAKER_02: If that's the case going out I I hate to change the topic, but he hit on he hit on something that that struck me that I remember.
• 3:47
  SPEAKER_02: Remember Larry, do you remember Arcadia?
• 3:51
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, okay.
• 3:53
  SPEAKER_02: We were in this is what opera house is it?
• 3:57
  SPEAKER_02: Opera house, yeah.
• 3:58
  SPEAKER_02: Opera house in Arcadia, Florida.
• 4:01
  SPEAKER_02: At the time it was kind of like a flea market for a better term, and they had this whole room with pictures in it of paintings, not not photographs, but paintings.
• 4:14
  SPEAKER_02: This whole room, floor to ceiling.
• 4:19
  SPEAKER_02: And my wife and I were in there, and we were using equipment to detect uh uh electrical energy.
• 4:28
  SPEAKER_02: Well, came upon one picture, went by it, nothing.
• 4:35
  SPEAKER_02: Came back to it, they're spiking again.
• 4:38
  SPEAKER_02: Went away from it, nothing.
• 4:40
  SPEAKER_02: Came back to it, spike it.
• 4:41
  SPEAKER_02: So I got dowsing rods out and started talking asking questions, and it wasn't a picture of anybody here, it was like an English picture of two small boys, which was you know, out of the realm for the whole place, but it was like it was their picture, and I believe they were attached to it, and that's why I do believe there's objects that can have attachments to them, and you can bring them into your own property, right?
• 5:19
  SPEAKER_02: And you gotta be careful of that.
• 5:22
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, yeah, I mean that picture could have meant something to them.
• 5:25
  SPEAKER_00: We don't know.
• 5:26
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, right, right.
• 5:27
  SPEAKER_00: Is it possible those two boys actually paint that picture when they were older?
• 5:32
  SPEAKER_02: Exactly.
• 5:33
  SPEAKER_02: But my thing, my thing is what if somebody buys that painting, takes it home, and now they start having things happen.
• 5:42
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, they're they're there with the picture.
• 5:44
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, so I mean, but it could be good things, it could be good things.
• 5:49
  SPEAKER_00: What's the harm of two spirits living out their spiritual world with this painting?
• 5:56
  SPEAKER_00: You know, I mean, you gotta be careful attachments.
• 5:58
  SPEAKER_00: I don't have attached, I mean, someone said attachment, my grandfather, but I think he's just looking out for me.
• 6:04
  SPEAKER_00: I don't think he's an attachment, I think he just looks out for me.
• 6:07
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, um, and you talked about attachments before, and I've heard people had attachments too.
• 6:14
  SPEAKER_00: Like, I don't know how I feel about all that stuff, but you know, my big belief is that anybody attaches to me, they're gonna go back to where they came from because no one wants to live my life, you know, no one wants to work 60 hours a week.
• 6:28
  SPEAKER_00: You know, they're gonna be like, yeah, but I'm going back to asylum.
• 6:32
  SPEAKER_00: So I mean, it's it's rough.
• 6:36
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, we we we want to believe, right?
• 6:40
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, we want to believe that we're gonna go to our happy place, um, where stuff didn't hurt, where's we weren't in pain, because that's what happens when majority of people die, they're in pain, and you know that's what we want to believe.
• 6:53
  SPEAKER_00: The best is gonna happen.
• 6:55
  SPEAKER_00: Why aren't they moving on?
• 6:58
  SPEAKER_00: I have no idea.
• 7:00
  SPEAKER_01: But see, this goes back to the whole foundation of where we started at.
• 7:04
  SPEAKER_01: Nobody knows for sure the whys.
• 7:07
  SPEAKER_00: Well, someone does.
• 7:08
  SPEAKER_00: There's a lot out there that do, they're just not sharing it, man.
• 7:11
  SPEAKER_00: Come on, you know that.
• 7:16
  SPEAKER_00: Spakey knows everything, he's just not sharing it with you.
• 7:21
  SPEAKER_00: I can see in his eyes, he knows the truth.
• 7:23
  SPEAKER_02: I see my wife just commented.
• 7:29
  SPEAKER_01: That's the one who really wears the pants in that family.
• 7:32
  SPEAKER_01: Don't let him fool you.
• 7:33
  SPEAKER_01: Chris, we'll go back to Chris for a second.
• 7:36
  SPEAKER_01: He says that it's almost like he's a it's a moth to a flame.
• 7:42
  SPEAKER_01: When when it's happening with him, they just all come because they know that they can't communicate with him.
• 7:49
  SPEAKER_01: So I think that's definitely part of what you're saying.
• 7:51
  SPEAKER_01: There is if they feel they can communicate through you or they can make contact through you, or you can somehow feel they're that they're there, yeah.
• 7:59
  SPEAKER_01: I think they would be more likely to attach to you.
• 8:02
  SPEAKER_01: But bear something in mind, they they're transient, they don't stay in one place.
• 8:06
  SPEAKER_01: Just because the this the person in this house had somebody this house had somebody that died in it, it doesn't mean that's the person that's even haunting it.
• 8:14
  SPEAKER_01: It could be somebody else.
• 8:16
  SPEAKER_01: So they're transient, but I'm sure when they find you, if they're in my opinion only, if they feel like they can communicate through you or get word through you somehow, yeah, they'll attach.
• 8:27
  SPEAKER_01: Go ahead, Spank.
• 8:28
  SPEAKER_01: It's here.
• 8:29
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I was reading and reading her question again, and I I and on on the one time that I did have an attachment, I think it was because he felt threatened by my presence there and communicating with the others, and he was trying to get my energy, lower my energy from talking to them.
• 8:57
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, because they do they there are there are there's something out there that can't snatch your energy or drain your energy.
• 9:05
  SPEAKER_01: Right, I'd be more worried about that.
• 9:06
  SPEAKER_02: Kind of kind of like a jealous husband kind of thing, because I was talking, let's just say I was talking to his wife and he didn't want me to, and he was trying to drain me of my energy from talking to her, right?
• 9:20
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, I was at that hotel also, and I did the same thing.
• 9:24
  SPEAKER_00: Maybe not what you did, I go a little extreme.
• 9:26
  SPEAKER_00: Like I did ask if the ladies of the night wanted a new pimp, and they said yes.
• 9:33
  SPEAKER_00: So I declared myself the new and I gave them freedom.
• 9:38
  SPEAKER_00: I never got anything from him.
• 9:41
  SPEAKER_00: Maybe I was too aggressive at that time, maybe he backed down, or maybe he was a tattoo at the time.
• 9:47
  SPEAKER_00: Maybe he was with me when you went to you.
• 9:53
  SPEAKER_00: But I mean, I'm like, I I when I go into a place and it's disrespected to women, it upsets me.
• 10:02
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah, and that's one of my more aggression.
• 10:05
  SPEAKER_00: I do not like provoking, but when you start disrespecting women, I will step up to the plate.
• 10:11
  SPEAKER_00: I have no issue with that.
• 10:13
  SPEAKER_00: Again, my positive belief, my positivity, and my belief is what protects me, and it's worked so far, and it will continue to work.
• 10:23
  SPEAKER_00: So I have no issue stepping up to the plate.
• 10:25
  SPEAKER_00: And mass and seminary, addict, very bad toward women.
• 10:31
  SPEAKER_00: The stuff, the history up there, and what happened up there.
• 10:34
  SPEAKER_00: You send two females up there, three females up there, bad stuff is gonna happen to them.
• 10:39
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and I always go up after and I call them out.
• 10:44
  SPEAKER_00: And till recently they back down.
• 10:48
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 10:49
  SPEAKER_00: Now they're starting to be a little more aggressive toward me.
• 10:53
  SPEAKER_00: Um, I don't know what's changed up there.
• 10:55
  SPEAKER_00: I did a solo up there, kind of a little aggressive toward me.
• 10:59
  SPEAKER_00: So I'm doing a solo there in December for eight, ten hours.
• 11:02
  SPEAKER_00: I'm going by myself the whole place 10 hours.
• 11:05
  SPEAKER_00: I think it's time for me and these spirits to have a little one-on-one.
• 11:09
  SPEAKER_00: Again, I am there to find answers.
• 11:11
  SPEAKER_00: Why are you doing this?
• 11:13
  SPEAKER_00: Why are you picking on women and not men?
• 11:16
  SPEAKER_00: But the thing about Madison, there's so many spirits there.
• 11:20
  SPEAKER_00: You can go to one room and have the nicest conversation.
• 11:24
  SPEAKER_00: You go up to the attic and feel bad.
• 11:27
  SPEAKER_00: You go to the Civil War section, have a great conversation, and that's why I love Madison Seminary.
• 11:34
  SPEAKER_00: It's a huge place that has a lot of different spirits.
• 11:36
  SPEAKER_00: So if you guys ever come up, look me up.
• 11:41
  SPEAKER_00: I take you to Madison.
• 11:42
  SPEAKER_00: All right, okay.
• 11:42
  SPEAKER_01: We're gonna hold you to that.
• 11:44
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, road trip, road trip.
• 11:47
  SPEAKER_02: They just um I missed the last road trip.
• 11:50
  SPEAKER_01: Yes, you did.
• 11:52
  SPEAKER_01: We were we were up at Savannah, investigated the Savannah Theater, the oldest operating theater in the country.
• 11:58
  SPEAKER_01: Great people.
• 11:59
  SPEAKER_01: Um uh Mike and oh my gosh, his girlfriend's name just went right on my head.
• 12:05
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, I am embarrassed now, but they're great folks.
• 12:07
  SPEAKER_01: Savannah Theater, investigate it, it's a great place.
• 12:12
  SPEAKER_00: So I thought about coming out of Florida because I've been as I said, I had a paranormal debate before.
• 12:20
  SPEAKER_00: So I mean, I gotta do my Scotland trip next year first.
• 12:24
  SPEAKER_00: But Florida, Robert the Doll.
• 12:26
  SPEAKER_00: What are your thoughts?
• 12:31
  SPEAKER_02: Have not been there.
• 12:32
  SPEAKER_02: I don't know.
• 12:34
  SPEAKER_01: Down the keys.
• 12:36
  SPEAKER_01: Um yeah, a lot of hype.
• 12:42
  SPEAKER_00: Worse than Annabelle?
• 12:44
  SPEAKER_01: Well, I in fact I think Annabelle is more of a hype.
• 12:47
  SPEAKER_01: I I I you know that's not fair.
• 12:50
  SPEAKER_01: I have not spent enough time uh looking into it to to really make a comment.
• 12:57
  SPEAKER_01: That's really not fair on my part, but uh I just I'm not sure.
• 13:02
  SPEAKER_01: I'll leave it at that.
• 13:03
  SPEAKER_01: I just I I'm not sure about it.
• 13:08
  SPEAKER_00: Unknown.
• 13:08
  SPEAKER_00: So I mean it's Robert Dahl's story intrigues me.
• 13:14
  SPEAKER_02: The whole story, yeah.
• 13:15
  SPEAKER_00: The whole story behind it.
• 13:17
  SPEAKER_00: Now, if there was a haunted doll, which is not haunted, it's an attachment to a doll, um that would be it.
• 13:27
  SPEAKER_00: I think.
• 13:28
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I'd love to.
• 13:30
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, plus it's in a fort, you can investigate the whole place.
• 13:33
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, we talked about going to places and not getting anything, but to be in those places and the history of those places is worth the trip itself if you don't get any paranormal experience.
• 13:47
  SPEAKER_01: That's kind of how I felt about Savannah, too.
• 13:49
  SPEAKER_01: That place is recording, Mike.
• 13:52
  SPEAKER_02: There's the the two of them, and that's one thing with Larry.
• 13:55
  SPEAKER_02: Um, when you come on to the team, you better be ready for history.
• 14:03
  SPEAKER_02: Because if you don't have the history, what are you doing?
• 14:09
  SPEAKER_02: You need to love know something about the place, the surroundings, the time periods, and all those kinds.
• 14:16
  SPEAKER_02: We do we try to do backgrounds on places we go to before we go there, so we can get some trigger words, uh, know some of the people that were actually there, and and those kind of things, and and even on his tours that he does on in on the beach and stuff, it's it's a good history tour, and a lot of people, even if they don't get anything, they've learned something that night.
• 14:42
  SPEAKER_01: And I I think it's important though, we're not interested in uh somebody sees a ghost on the banister.
• 14:48
  SPEAKER_01: That's not the kind of history we're talking about, right?
• 14:50
  SPEAKER_01: We're we're talking about who lived there, so that if we hear the name Jezebel, well we know who Jezebel was, she was uh one of the people that lived here.
• 15:00
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, that's that's the type of history we we really want to make sure we know.
• 15:04
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, so I do it differently, especially places that are six hours, seven hours away from me.
• 15:11
  SPEAKER_00: I don't do history before I go.
• 15:14
  SPEAKER_00: All right, because we talked about the mind before, right?
• 15:17
  SPEAKER_00: I think we influenced, and everybody's heard evps.
• 15:21
  SPEAKER_00: If you know a name, you're gonna hear that through EVP.
• 15:24
  SPEAKER_00: So, what I do is I go in there blind, then I do the history after to make sure I was not influenced.
• 15:35
  SPEAKER_01: I guess I guess that's the cop in me or the detective in me.
• 15:39
  SPEAKER_01: Before I do an interview with you, I'm gonna know everything I want to know about you before I interview.
• 15:44
  SPEAKER_01: Um, and maybe also the fact that yeah, I I don't feel like I'm influenced like that to to hear things.
• 15:52
  SPEAKER_01: I'm I'm a big once again, not which ghosts are seen necessarily, right?
• 15:58
  SPEAKER_01: But I do I do want to know the history of the place.
• 16:01
  SPEAKER_01: I think I it's just a you know, tomato tomato type thing.
• 16:04
  SPEAKER_00: No, I mean, no, I understand.
• 16:06
  SPEAKER_00: I think it goes both ways with investigators.
• 16:09
  SPEAKER_00: Like me, I always tell owners, they're like, Do you want a tour?
• 16:11
  SPEAKER_00: I never take a tour of the place before I do investigation.
• 16:14
  SPEAKER_00: I said no, I always say no, and they're like, Why?
• 16:19
  SPEAKER_00: Like because if I get stuff, I'm gonna go back and research it, then I'm coming back.
• 16:25
  SPEAKER_00: So you're gonna get me twice.
• 16:27
  SPEAKER_00: I'm gonna rent this place out twice.
• 16:29
  SPEAKER_00: So you need two for one.
• 16:31
  SPEAKER_00: So business, business-wise, it's a smart decision for you because I'm gonna rent the place out twice.
• 16:39
  SPEAKER_00: But I'm not the type of person that's gonna go investigate.
• 16:41
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, I got Sarah.
• 16:42
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, Sarah lives here, then leave it alone.
• 16:46
  SPEAKER_00: No, I'm gonna do research.
• 16:48
  SPEAKER_00: And if I find something, I'm gonna go back.
• 16:50
  SPEAKER_00: Now I got the history to it.
• 16:52
  SPEAKER_00: Now I'm gonna go back and try to get more answers.
• 16:55
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, that's that's uh it's style, and you can't can't can't argue with that at all.
• 17:03
  SPEAKER_00: No, and I always send one person in solo before we go, and it's not to investigate.
• 17:10
  SPEAKER_00: Um, I've done it a few places.
• 17:13
  SPEAKER_00: Um, I sent my brother in.
• 17:16
  SPEAKER_00: Go walk around this place, tell me what you feel.
• 17:19
  SPEAKER_00: You're not investigating, tell me the odd, the bad feeling spots or just spirit spots you think your spirits are, and it gives an opportunity because we do a Facebook Live opportunity for people to go in um that are watching Facebook and see the place because we can't get everywhere, there's too many haunted places in America, so it gives an opportunity for people like you, like Bill Manor.
• 17:44
  SPEAKER_00: Like, oh, I heard of Bill Manor.
• 17:46
  SPEAKER_00: Uh it looks cool, it's up by Toledo, but it'll give you opportunity to see the place.
• 17:52
  SPEAKER_00: So, and maybe it could draw some people to that place.
• 17:57
  SPEAKER_00: But I mean, it's he goes in and like he didn't want to go in the basement, but he did.
• 18:03
  SPEAKER_00: He walked down there, he doesn't investigate, he comes up, he's like, That basement fell off.
• 18:08
  SPEAKER_00: Or I send people in Madison in the attic, just walk down there.
• 18:12
  SPEAKER_00: I won't tell you what two rooms that are freaky as hell.
• 18:15
  SPEAKER_00: I've been there 16 times, and those two rooms still freak freak me out.
• 18:19
  SPEAKER_00: And they'll come back and like don't say anything, I'll send someone else down, come back.
• 18:25
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, write down which rooms, and they always write down the same rooms.
• 18:31
  SPEAKER_01: So we we do something a little uh similar.
• 18:34
  SPEAKER_01: I I knew you were waiting for that shit.
• 18:36
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, we do a thing called quiet time, and uh when the investigation before the investigation begins, uh the team spreads out different areas in the venue, and 10-15 minutes, nobody talks, nobody moves around, everybody's got a piece of paper, and you just sit there and you drink in the venue, and whatever comes to your mind, you write down.
• 19:01
  SPEAKER_01: Don't care how crazy it is, it just comes and you write it down, and we collect those pieces of paper.
• 19:06
  SPEAKER_01: And at the end of the investigation, I read I'll read what everybody's written down, and you'd be shocked how often somebody has had a thought, a feeling, uh, they heard something that connected with the investigation.
• 19:18
  SPEAKER_01: But that's how we do it.
• 19:19
  SPEAKER_01: We go in and just we call it quiet time, we just sit there and listen for 10-15 minutes and just get the the energy of the place.
• 19:28
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, it's it's amazing like how much you can hear and feel when you just I don't call it quiet time, I call it the shut the F up time.
• 19:38
  SPEAKER_01: But I'm like just sitting there a very sensitive guy, aren't you, Ryan?
• 19:42
  SPEAKER_01: Just very sensitive.
• 19:43
  SPEAKER_00: I I can tell you I'm a ginger, it happens, but I'm like trans-allegheny, like people always want to go to hot spots.
• 19:52
  SPEAKER_00: I'm like, just go sit in a hallway and be quiet.
• 19:55
  SPEAKER_00: Sure, yeah, how much you will get of just being quiet and listening to the environment around you.
• 20:04
  SPEAKER_00: We've had some great EVPs from us not even talking.
• 20:09
  SPEAKER_00: You can do that any place, like people want to talk all the time, people want to be heard, and all you hear is like, do you guys go over recordings?
• 20:18
  SPEAKER_00: Like, I've gone over recordings.
• 20:20
  SPEAKER_00: I'm like, dude, shut up! Like, I'm trying, like, you heard EVPs over you know, underneath other people talking.
• 20:25
  SPEAKER_00: It's like, dude, just shut up for once.
• 20:27
  SPEAKER_00: I want to hear this.
• 20:28
  SPEAKER_00: But I mean, yeah, I mean, different types of investigations, like you can go in there and start talking, or you can go in there and just be quiet and see what happens.
• 20:39
  SPEAKER_02: Agreed, and and one of the things when we're doing EVPs is you ask the question, you gotta wait at least 30 to 60 seconds before you start the next question.
• 20:53
  SPEAKER_02: Yes, because you know you gotta give them a chance to respond.
• 20:57
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah, it takes energy, right?
• 20:59
  SPEAKER_00: They have to build up that energy.
• 21:02
  SPEAKER_00: And I think a lot of people are starting to do that now, which is great.
• 21:08
  SPEAKER_00: All right, so bucket list places.
• 21:12
  SPEAKER_00: I'll give you two places each if you can go investigate.
• 21:17
  SPEAKER_01: Doesn't have to be haunted, just you want to go investigate, or you believe it's haunted the Jedburgh Jail in uh northern England.
• 21:28
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, and and I'd like to go to Mansfield Reformatory.
• 21:34
  SPEAKER_01: I've never been there.
• 21:37
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, that's right.
• 21:39
  SPEAKER_01: Just just pull the plug out on me there.
• 21:42
  SPEAKER_00: I've been there twice, but again, people have great experiences there.
• 21:47
  SPEAKER_00: Maybe they just don't like solace gingers there.
• 21:49
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
• 21:50
  SPEAKER_00: That's why they don't talk to me.
• 21:53
  SPEAKER_00: I spank you up.
• 21:55
  SPEAKER_02: I got one that we were gonna go to at Things just did not work out.
• 22:02
  SPEAKER_02: The what was it?
• 22:04
  SPEAKER_02: Goldfield Hotel?
• 22:06
  SPEAKER_01: Oh yeah.
• 22:08
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, I'd add that.
• 22:09
  SPEAKER_01: I okay, I'd add that.
• 22:13
  SPEAKER_01: Goldfield.
• 22:15
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 22:17
  SPEAKER_00: That was a is that is that the one across from Wilshire Club?
• 22:20
  SPEAKER_01: Yes, it's it's uh actually Nevada.
• 22:24
  SPEAKER_01: It's in Nevada.
• 22:25
  SPEAKER_01: It's in Nevada, yeah.
• 22:27
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, you got the old field and you got the Wilshire Club across the street or Caddy Corner.
• 22:31
  SPEAKER_02: I think that's where it is, yeah.
• 22:32
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that would be great.
• 22:34
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 22:35
  SPEAKER_02: Um and there's just so many places here in anywhere you go.
• 22:41
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah.
• 22:41
  SPEAKER_02: We we we try to go out of state once a year.
• 22:45
  SPEAKER_02: And you're gonna laugh, but I would like to go back to the Mayberry Campground in Mount Dora, Mount Dora, North Carolina.
• 22:57
  SPEAKER_01: Not Mount Dora, uh Mount um no, Rocky, Mount Dora's in Florida.
• 23:03
  SPEAKER_02: You're right.
• 23:04
  SPEAKER_02: Uh Rocky Mount?
• 23:06
  SPEAKER_02: Is it Rocky Mount?
• 23:07
  SPEAKER_02: No, it's Mount Mount Erie.
• 23:11
  SPEAKER_02: Mount Erie.
• 23:12
  SPEAKER_02: That's right, that's right.
• 23:13
  SPEAKER_02: Mount Erie.
• 23:14
  SPEAKER_02: Because in that campground, um, do you remember the Siamese twins, the famous Siamese twins from back in the day?
• 23:26
  SPEAKER_02: That's where they lived.
• 23:28
  SPEAKER_02: Okay, and the family that runs the campground are descendants.
• 23:34
  SPEAKER_02: And I while we were camping there after going to where was that in West Virginia?
• 23:41
  SPEAKER_01: Um, oh the the um um oh Lake Shawnee uh uh campground, like uh Lake Shawnee Amusement Park, abandoned park, yeah.
• 23:52
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah, we did that, and then when we left there, we went camping, and we were able to get into this house where they were where they lived.
• 24:02
  SPEAKER_02: The thing about the twins was they were both married.
• 24:07
  SPEAKER_02: The the Siamese twins were married to sisters, and one had I think it was six kids, one had five kids, and they'd go from one house to the other house every every other day, and that's how they lived.
• 24:26
  SPEAKER_02: And that place had some had some activity.
• 24:31
  SPEAKER_01: Well, yeah, but I not activity we can talk about in a show.
• 24:34
  SPEAKER_01: No, no, um, no, no, it had paranormal activity.
• 24:39
  SPEAKER_01: I'm just teasing this way.
• 24:41
  SPEAKER_02: Um, I mean, but it but it's funny, you go to any small town, there's some kind of haunted area, yeah.
• 24:51
  SPEAKER_00: And somebody's put and somebody's putting on a tour, which is great nowadays because people are more open to it, and back in the day they weren't open to it, they didn't want to talk about it, but now they're more open.
• 25:03
  SPEAKER_00: So we're finding all these new places, yeah, which is great, yeah.
• 25:08
  SPEAKER_02: But then there's still the the people that say no.
• 25:12
  SPEAKER_00: Oh yeah, but yeah, it is what it is.
• 25:17
  SPEAKER_00: Um, yeah, I was gonna ask you.
• 25:18
  SPEAKER_00: Um obviously you gave your answer, right?
• 25:20
  SPEAKER_00: Is there any place that actually draws you back?
• 25:27
  SPEAKER_01: Draws me back.
• 25:31
  SPEAKER_01: The old school Felsman will always draw me back, as does uh Waldo Secret Garden.
• 25:37
  SPEAKER_01: That's local stuff for us, but they we've just had so much happen there, they keep drawing me back.
• 25:43
  SPEAKER_01: We're not done yet, we've got so many more questions to answer in those places, but yeah, yeah.
• 25:50
  SPEAKER_02: Um I I would like to go back up to that.
• 25:57
  SPEAKER_02: I talked about it earlier.
• 25:59
  SPEAKER_02: Is it still the museum?
• 26:01
  SPEAKER_02: The one in Sebastian, the uh oh, I forgot his name now.
• 26:07
  SPEAKER_01: The treasure hunt Mel Fisher, yeah.
• 26:09
  SPEAKER_02: Oh yeah, Mel Fisher Museum, yeah, is an old firehouse.
• 26:14
  SPEAKER_02: Yep, so you got the things that are attached to the gold and everything they have in there, but also the firehouse.
• 26:24
  SPEAKER_02: The old there's three or four firemen there.
• 26:27
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, we actually got an EVP that said, uh, is there anybody here with us?
• 26:31
  SPEAKER_01: And we got I'm a fireman on an EVP, which is pretty cool.
• 26:36
  SPEAKER_00: So if you guys do come out the Mansfield, I believe I've not investigated there, but I know people.
• 26:40
  SPEAKER_00: There's an old there's a firehouse museum right by, too, that you can investigate.
• 26:46
  SPEAKER_03: There you go.
• 26:47
  SPEAKER_03: There you go.
• 26:48
  SPEAKER_00: That's pretty good.
• 26:48
  SPEAKER_00: So if I don't know the name of it, if you guys come up, just let me know.
• 26:52
  SPEAKER_00: I can find out the information for that because I know a couple of people that have done it.
• 26:56
  SPEAKER_00: So I don't know if it's like exclusive.
• 26:57
  SPEAKER_00: You need to know somebody, or not sure.
• 27:00
  SPEAKER_00: Yep.
• 27:00
  SPEAKER_01: I just say we know you.
• 27:02
  SPEAKER_02: We'll just say we know you, Ryan, and that's that prime won't count.
• 27:04
  SPEAKER_02: No, that probably maybe maybe the fire brotherhood will help me.
• 27:08
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, so um, yeah, Tina says she wished to go back to Hensdale House.
• 27:14
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, Hensdale.
• 27:15
  SPEAKER_01: Well, I'd go that great place.
• 27:16
  SPEAKER_01: Hensdale House, I I would recommend that to anybody.
• 27:19
  SPEAKER_00: And Larry, you said one thing that stuck with me just recently like you're not done with that place yet.
• 27:25
  SPEAKER_00: And that's what I love.
• 27:26
  SPEAKER_00: So many investigators want to hit every single place.
• 27:29
  SPEAKER_00: You investigate, you did it, you move on.
• 27:32
  SPEAKER_00: But you said that couple of those places that you're not done with your local places because there aren't more answers.
• 27:39
  SPEAKER_00: That's why we're there to get answers.
• 27:41
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and I love that because that's what that's why we do this to get answers.
• 27:46
  SPEAKER_00: We're not out there trying to make TikTok videos.
• 27:48
  SPEAKER_00: I've been to 500 different places, but you got no answers.
• 27:51
  SPEAKER_00: Sweet, great, move on.
• 27:53
  SPEAKER_00: But keep investigating your local.
• 27:56
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, speaking of that, Ryan, uh, your local place that you've been talking about.
• 28:03
  SPEAKER_02: Has it ever gone like hot and cold with you?
• 28:06
  SPEAKER_00: Yes.
• 28:07
  SPEAKER_00: Um, I've been there 16 times in 19 years.
• 28:11
  SPEAKER_00: Um recently I've been going two or three times a year.
• 28:16
  SPEAKER_00: And people argue this when it is cold up here, it is more active.
• 28:22
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 28:23
  SPEAKER_00: I'm talking cold.
• 28:24
  SPEAKER_00: I'm not talking you're 40 degree cold down in Florida here.
• 28:26
  SPEAKER_00: I'm talking about you know, I did an S this method one time.
• 28:32
  SPEAKER_00: I was in there for an hour, hour and a half, hour 40 minutes.
• 28:37
  SPEAKER_00: I look at my spirit box, it was like 12 degrees.
• 28:43
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and I'm like, but it is so much, and I've done experiments.
• 28:48
  SPEAKER_00: I've gone in the summer when it's really hot, not that active, still activity, but not that active.
• 28:54
  SPEAKER_00: You go in the winter, that's interesting.
• 28:57
  SPEAKER_01: That's interesting.
• 28:58
  SPEAKER_01: See, that's the type of data I like.
• 28:59
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that's the type of data I'm looking for.
• 29:02
  SPEAKER_01: That's that's that's something you can put your your fingers on.
• 29:06
  SPEAKER_01: I like that.
• 29:07
  SPEAKER_02: And do you do anything with the humidity and all that kind of stuff and thunderstorms?
• 29:13
  SPEAKER_00: And um, the only thing with thunderstorms, I don't use a tripwire, I don't use EMF.
• 29:18
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, no, we took before go ahead.
• 29:21
  SPEAKER_01: I'm sorry.
• 29:22
  SPEAKER_00: When EMF is going crazy, like my tripwire is going off the whole thing.
• 29:25
  SPEAKER_00: I'll look at the lightning map.
• 29:27
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, there's a lightning storm 30, even 30 miles away, it'll set those off.
• 29:32
  SPEAKER_00: So you gotta be careful about that too.
• 29:34
  SPEAKER_01: So yeah, we I take uh all the weather conditions, the temperature, humidity, uh barometer, the whole nine yards, and the solar weather is all documented into each of our investigations.
• 29:45
  SPEAKER_01: Hopefully, trying to to find some cooperation there between things.
• 29:51
  SPEAKER_00: See, I don't know because we were at Bel Air House and it was like 100 degrees in there, even though they had air conditioning, which I don't think worked.
• 29:58
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, we sweated bad and it was very active.
• 30:02
  SPEAKER_00: And we went back in the fall and not that active.
• 30:05
  SPEAKER_00: So I don't know if it's location to location.
• 30:10
  SPEAKER_00: I I don't know.
• 30:11
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, something you get like you said, keep track of it.
• 30:14
  SPEAKER_00: You know, every location can be different, but if you're gonna go back to those locations, find out when the most active is.
• 30:20
  SPEAKER_02: Let me ask you this, Ryan.
• 30:22
  SPEAKER_02: Was there different uh foot traffic?
• 30:28
  SPEAKER_02: I you probably wouldn't know because you're not there all the time.
• 30:32
  SPEAKER_02: Is there different foot traffic going at different periods of time too?
• 30:38
  SPEAKER_00: Winter time a lot less because it's so cold.
• 30:41
  SPEAKER_02: And that's why it might have been more active.
• 30:44
  SPEAKER_00: It is possible.
• 30:45
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, I like going in the winter.
• 30:48
  SPEAKER_00: First of all, it's cheaper because no one wants to go there.
• 30:50
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and second of all, I don't mind the cold.
• 30:53
  SPEAKER_00: You know, there's nothing wrong with going investigating for an hour and a half, coming back, some having some hot chocolate, you know.
• 31:00
  SPEAKER_00: It's not a race, you know.
• 31:02
  SPEAKER_00: We people want to investigate and they want to run through these places as fast as possible.
• 31:06
  SPEAKER_00: And I used to do that.
• 31:08
  SPEAKER_00: I used to go to a huge place, run through it all.
• 31:11
  SPEAKER_00: We have it till seven in the morning, and it's midnight.
• 31:14
  SPEAKER_00: I'm done.
• 31:14
  SPEAKER_00: Like, oh, what do I do now?
• 31:16
  SPEAKER_00: So take your time when you're investigating.
• 31:20
  SPEAKER_00: Um, but it is possible, it could be foot traffic also.
• 31:25
  SPEAKER_02: Because one thing we found out the one venue that we use, there was a let me just say a club that was in the bottom part of this place, and they moved to another building, it got quiet.
• 31:43
  SPEAKER_02: We didn't have nothing for what two or three months, maybe it just got quiet, and then we started hearing that at the new building they were having things happen over there.
• 31:56
  SPEAKER_02: Tell me what the boys and girls club, yeah.
• 31:58
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I think it might have have a little to do with foot traffic too, and and and people's interaction, right?
• 32:06
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, I think a lot of it goes into it, and I don't know if we'll ever get all the data.
• 32:10
  SPEAKER_00: Maybe someone will start doing that.
• 32:12
  SPEAKER_00: Maybe we uh just start doing more of it, like foot traffic, you know, read your group, positive energy, negative energy.
• 32:20
  SPEAKER_00: How many people are there?
• 32:22
  SPEAKER_00: Humidity, temperature.
• 32:24
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, that's a lot of data to put in one place, but oh yeah, we do it every time though.
• 32:29
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and if more people like you out there are doing it all the time, maybe composite something, and maybe we can say, Hey, there you go.
• 32:38
  SPEAKER_00: It is possible.
• 32:42
  SPEAKER_02: One of our one of our people commented, too cold for Tom.
• 32:47
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah, there's some people that won't go investigate with me in the winter.
• 32:54
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, I believe it.
• 32:56
  SPEAKER_03: I mean, I don't worry your hand up.
• 33:02
  SPEAKER_00: I appreciate both of you coming on.
• 33:04
  SPEAKER_00: Always all the podcasts I do, always more questions than answers, just like an investigation.
• 33:09
  SPEAKER_00: Yep, I mean, that's what we want.
• 33:11
  SPEAKER_00: Um, I tell everybody keep doing what you're doing because you guys are doing unbelievable work out there, and hopefully other people follow suit, um, especially from all your investigations, the data you're collecting, um, the way your group is.
• 33:27
  SPEAKER_00: It's it's unbelievable.
• 33:29
  SPEAKER_01: Well, thank you.
• 33:30
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, well, then invitations open, you find your way down to Florida.
• 33:33
  SPEAKER_01: We'll show you some pretty cool spots down here.
• 33:36
  SPEAKER_00: I appreciate everybody that jumped on, Kyla, Alme, Tina, Jill.
• 33:40
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know who else is on here.
• 33:41
  SPEAKER_00: Everybody else, I forgot.
• 33:43
  SPEAKER_00: Um, thanks for your questions.
• 33:44
  SPEAKER_00: Thanks for jumping on.
• 33:46
  SPEAKER_00: I'm sure if you have any questions about Florida, you can message me or message Florida International Florida Bureau of Paranormal Investigation.
• 33:55
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, you can get us at uh www.indian riverhauntings.com.
• 34:00
  SPEAKER_01: Goes to both of our uh websites and you can get a hold of me there.
• 34:03
  SPEAKER_00: All right, so you got website, you guys have Facebook, Facebook.
• 34:08
  SPEAKER_01: Facebook, yeah.
• 34:08
  SPEAKER_01: Facebook's we have a one for the Florida Bureau of Paranormal Investigation, one for Indian River Hauntings, which is our outreach.
• 34:14
  SPEAKER_01: That's where I do the tours.
• 34:15
  SPEAKER_01: And you can also check out a lot of our investigations on YouTube.
• 34:19
  SPEAKER_01: And the address is the at sign Indian River Hauntings 2341.
• 34:24
  SPEAKER_01: And that you'll find us on YouTube.
• 34:26
  SPEAKER_01: And we usually put a lot of our investigations up out there, and you can uh check us out that way.
• 34:31
  SPEAKER_00: Again, thanks again, Spanky.
• 34:33
  SPEAKER_00: Great meeting you.
• 34:34
  SPEAKER_00: Thank you.
• 34:34
  SPEAKER_00: Great meeting.
• 34:36
  SPEAKER_01: Thank you for having us on.
• 34:37
  SPEAKER_00: I take care, and hopefully we'll we we meet down the road.
• 34:42
  SPEAKER_01: Take a good care, man.
• 34:43
  SPEAKER_00: You too.
• 34:43
  SPEAKER_00: Thanks, bye.