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Mac & Bone Hour 3: LaMelo Ball Trade Rumors Heating Up · Mac & Bone Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Oh, Owen's Mac and Foe on your radio. Baby in
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  Speaker 1: my freeing bah, come on in my freeing team, bon,
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  Speaker 1: what's the fun? I can't go to work without listening
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  Speaker 1: to the Mac and.
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  Speaker 2: Ball and to do a lot.
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  Speaker 3: They're pivoting.
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  Speaker 4: The Hornets are looking an opportunity to pivot. They had
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  Speaker 4: been about LaMelo Ball, Miles Bridges. They want their future
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  Speaker 4: to be about Kankain Nipple and Brandon Miller. And so
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  Speaker 4: whether Ball and Bridges can find a new home to
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  Speaker 4: clear out stuff just give those supporting casts is what
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  Speaker 4: we're gonna find out.
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  Speaker 3: Who who tries to go get him?
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  Speaker 4: There's a couple of teams that only a couple of
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  Speaker 4: teams in need point guards. I'm gonna I'm not gonna
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  Speaker 4: get caught speculating at this point. I'll just played this.
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  Speaker 4: LaMelo Ball is an incredibly popular player.
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  Speaker 3: There you go. That is Brian Windhorse. Last night on
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  Speaker 3: the draft coverage, immediately after Schams Sharania broke the news
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  Speaker 3: that the Hornets have been engaging. We'll let you hear
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  Speaker 3: in Sham's words here in a second. The Hornet's engaging
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  Speaker 3: in trade talks with multiple teams over LaMelo Ball. Jake
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  Speaker 3: Fisher did say, though they're just listening right now because
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  Speaker 3: I know there's a lot of people bone, maybe we
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  Speaker 3: can talk about this. A lot of people kind of
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  Speaker 3: think this is BS. We're getting a lot of text
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  Speaker 3: saying fake news, including one from Bebop. I know you're
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  Speaker 3: not shocked by that bone shocking. He's got that terms
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  Speaker 3: in a lexico. And then he gave me some political
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  Speaker 3: stories that he finds to be fake news. So we
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  Speaker 3: will not out there, baby, well, he'll stay in our
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  Speaker 3: leg stay in our lege. Bob.
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  Speaker 5: Bob has a consecutive show streak that's unmatched, though he
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  Speaker 5: has not missed the show, and I don't get that
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  Speaker 5: out true.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, there's gotta be something he's got. He is
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  Speaker 3: the iron man of the show. Now, sometimes we wish
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  Speaker 3: he'd take a day off, but there's something to be
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  Speaker 3: sad for a man that is here trying to annoy us,
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  Speaker 3: stir it up on a daily basis. We will so
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  Speaker 3: nine o'clock hour, we'll open the phones back up at
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  Speaker 3: nine o'clock. Because it was a live one man it was.
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  Speaker 3: Callers were great in the seven o'clock hour. I thought
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  Speaker 3: I held my cool, including Royal who wanted us off
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  Speaker 3: the air. He is so disgusted that we don't want
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  Speaker 3: LaMelo traded now, but we're open to it a year ago.
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  Speaker 3: So anyway, let's go. Let's start with the man who
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  Speaker 3: had the first report, and then we'll kind of let's
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  Speaker 3: kind of reset this whole thing for everybody bone because
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  Speaker 3: you got a lot of people coming in or whatever
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  Speaker 3: that maybe don't know all the different details of what's
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  Speaker 3: all involved. And we can talk about the angle of
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  Speaker 3: like do you kind of just think this is like
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  Speaker 3: still far fetchter bs. There's one thing in here that
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  Speaker 3: Sham says that has that has gotten me a bit undone,
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  Speaker 3: all right, so let's listen to This was Sham's last
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  Speaker 3: set on the draft coverage, the first one to break
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  Speaker 3: this story, Malika.
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  Speaker 6: We started the night talking about Boston's Jalen Brown and
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  Speaker 6: another star whose name is picking steam in the NBA
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  Speaker 6: trade market here during draft week as we get closer
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  Speaker 6: to the free agency is Charlotte's LaMelo Ball. Multiple teams
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  Speaker 6: are strongly pursuing LaMelo Ball right now. The Hornets are engaged,
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  Speaker 6: I'm told, and Ball had a strong finish to the
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  Speaker 6: season that Mirrord the Hornets rise over the course of
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  Speaker 6: the last calendar year, both sides have been in a
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  Speaker 6: good place.
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  Speaker 3: Bald does want to.
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  Speaker 6: Be in Charlotte, I'm told, but this is an organization
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  Speaker 6: fielding some aggressive offers, so the price is met.
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  Speaker 3: He could very well be on the move.
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  Speaker 6: This is a developing story potentially over the next twenty
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  Speaker 6: four to forty eight hours.
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  Speaker 3: So that part right at the end is what shook me.
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  Speaker 3: This is a developing story potentially in the next twenty
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  Speaker 3: four to forty eight hours.
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  Speaker 5: And there's timeline on it that is not, Hey, what
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  Speaker 5: are you thinking about. Oh, we'll be in Todge, we'll
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  Speaker 5: do this, we'll talk, we'll talk in July. No, that's
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  Speaker 5: Shams would not put a deadline on He just did
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  Speaker 5: one with Giannis and that day Giannis was straight the deadline.
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  Speaker 5: That is, something has progressed to the point it could
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  Speaker 5: be done soon.
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  Speaker 3: He this text says, I I side in the camp
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  Speaker 3: with people that are saying fake news, are calling this BS.
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  Speaker 3: I'm not saying Cham's is lying, but clearly it sounds
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  Speaker 3: like other teams are pitching the hornets and they're just listening. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: like I said earlier, Jake Fisher did say, Hey, the
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  Speaker 3: Hornets are just listening at this point, so it does
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  Speaker 3: seem like other teams are. But I also wonder did
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  Speaker 3: the Hornets leak this out? Do they want more offers?
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  Speaker 3: Do they want the teams involved to up their offers?
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  Speaker 2: Like?
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  Speaker 3: Are they trying to play the game? Are they really
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  Speaker 3: considering this? Because I have to be honest with you, man,
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  Speaker 3: if I'm the GM of the Hornets, first of if
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  Speaker 3: I'm the gym of the Hornets, we don't win forty
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  Speaker 3: four games last year. We don't have continent, but we
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  Speaker 3: don't rap about anything. Probably screwt Henderson's on the squad
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  Speaker 3: bone and Trey Johnson. If I'm JAM of the Hornets.
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  Speaker 3: But if I'm the GM of the Hornets, I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: If I'm engaging, I don't know it. Again, I don't
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  Speaker 3: know if the Hornets leaked it, but it would make
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  Speaker 3: sense if they want offers to get it out there.
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  Speaker 3: I would say no, based on the progress of the
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  Speaker 3: team and how important LaMelo was to the progress of
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  Speaker 3: the team last year.
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  Speaker 5: There's a CBS Sports article mac by Brad Botkin this
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  Speaker 5: morning going over basically Sham's report, but throwing in his
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  Speaker 5: own opinions on why would, for example, teams like Minnesota
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  Speaker 5: want Wamelo Ball, why would the Hornets want to move them?
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  Speaker 5: Speculation on his part, but he says he wonders if
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  Speaker 5: the financial flexibility is tempting them because of having to
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  Speaker 5: sign Brandon Miller in the future and getting him off
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  Speaker 5: the books creates more room to do other stuff rather
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  Speaker 5: than pay Wamelow the one hundred and thirty the next
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  Speaker 5: three years. He also says, down there, who knows, maybe
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  Speaker 5: even Charlotte wants to get involved with Jalen Brown. Who
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  Speaker 5: knows speculation, but we've mentioned that a few times to day.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, well, stat picker says, Jalen Brown for LaMelo Ball? Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: would you get a third team involved somehow? I don't know,
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  Speaker 3: you know, but I think Bone's point was, Hey, if
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  Speaker 3: we're going to trade LaMelo, we better be getting the
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  Speaker 3: stud back in return.
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  Speaker 5: Also says that the ball dominant point guards are now
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  Speaker 5: in vogue again around the league. Trey Young just got paid,
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  Speaker 5: Jayalen Brunton just won a championship. A team like Minnesota,
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  Speaker 5: who may not have thought of trait of Wamelo Ball before,
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  Speaker 5: maybe more apt to trade for him now because of
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  Speaker 5: what Brunton just did for the.
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  Speaker 3: Next Hey, just because Trey, just because Washington did something stupid,
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  Speaker 3: the whole league doesn't need to change. But I understand
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  Speaker 3: the point as far as LaMelo goes. Yeah you could
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  Speaker 3: clear cap room, and yeah you could use that to
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  Speaker 3: pay Brandon Miller. But it's not like LaMelo Ball. Like
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  Speaker 3: when I think of clearing cap room out and I
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  Speaker 3: know they only have one year left on their contract,
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  Speaker 3: but I think of guys like Josh Green, guys like
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  Speaker 3: Miles Bridges, I don't think they have a future on
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  Speaker 3: this team, right, LaMelo ball, how critical he is Bone
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  Speaker 3: to this team, especially on the offensive end. How much
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  Speaker 3: you can tell Bone he has worked on improving you
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  Speaker 3: finally get and again. Maybe it is an example of
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  Speaker 3: you know, people keep saying Jeff Peterson, Plot and Schnall.
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  Speaker 3: They may be thinking, let's sell high on LaMelo We've
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  Speaker 3: got because clearly the market for LaMelo now Bone seems
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  Speaker 3: to be up from what it was a year ago.
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  Speaker 3: And that makes sense because of the season he had.
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  Speaker 3: He had an amazing season and he stayed healthy. But this,
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  Speaker 3: like sell high, means you're getting a lot. Yeah, I'm
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  Speaker 3: not hearing much in some of the discussed players that
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  Speaker 3: might come back to us. I'm not really hearing, Like,
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  Speaker 3: if we're selling high, why are the offers not seem
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  Speaker 3: that good? Yeah, there seems to be. Please don't take
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  Speaker 3: these crappy offers. Is there a.
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  Speaker 5: Disconnect on Lamello's value of what we think and what
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  Speaker 5: around the league thinks.
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  Speaker 3: It kind of seems that way at times, But clearly
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  Speaker 3: they're interested. But like you said, they're not budging with
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  Speaker 3: any of their top I mean, you're not wanting to
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  Speaker 3: give up the big ratgoo for mellow. What is that about? Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: Minnesota is really serious, but yet their whole roster's off one.
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  Speaker 3: A damn fan here, Jeff hanging a phone up on
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  Speaker 3: those fools. Man, it's already bad enough. A text brought
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  Speaker 3: this up that he brought it up too. It's already
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  Speaker 3: bad enough. Minnesota has stolen stro from us and take
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  Speaker 3: it Ashley stro line away bone for half of their
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  Speaker 3: TV broadcast. Now you're trying to steal a face of
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  Speaker 3: the damn franchise away too. Come on, chef, Jeff, put
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  Speaker 3: a stop to it. Man.
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  Speaker 5: We do have some breaking Hornets dues this morning. Per
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  Speaker 5: Tony Jones of the Athletic the Hornets have signed Michael
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  Speaker 5: Ajai to a two year, two way contract. He's a
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  Speaker 5: Butler product. Okay, well, if he have him, I think
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  Speaker 5: we can spare LaMelo. Did all make sense now, Bony?
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  Speaker 3: What a time for that to drop?
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  Speaker 5: This?
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  Speaker 3: Dude said, you guys, don't you guys think it's a
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  Speaker 3: coincidence Christian Anderson was picked. They'd feel good about Kobe
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  Speaker 3: and Christian Anderson. They want to save money and spend
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  Speaker 3: it elsewhere.
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  Speaker 2: Can I just say this, as a guy that loves Kobe, why.
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  Speaker 3: Are you gonna turn on Kobe?
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  Speaker 2: Now?
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  Speaker 3: You're he's not worth you?
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  Speaker 2: Moving on from lamellow ball for well, Kobe watch one
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  Speaker 2: of my favorite tar heels of all time. When he
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  Speaker 2: got traded here, it definitely, you know, peaked by continued
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  Speaker 2: interest in the Hornets because how much I enjoyed watching
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  Speaker 2: him play.
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  Speaker 3: At the collegiate level.
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  Speaker 2: But Mac, he's not LaMelo Ball, and I get the
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  Speaker 2: impact that he has off the bench, and I get
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  Speaker 2: that he made one of the most important shots and
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  Speaker 2: franchise history.
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  Speaker 3: And I value him being here next year. But you
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  Speaker 3: want him with LaMelo, but I don't have him in
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  Speaker 3: place of.
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  Speaker 2: That's the superpower, that's what makes them fun. That's what
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  Speaker 2: makes them exciting, as they're interchangeable. They both can play
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  Speaker 2: off of one another. I'm not moving on from LaMelo
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  Speaker 2: after he just played seventy two games helped ignite one
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  Speaker 2: of the league's best offenses to.
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  Speaker 3: Keep Kobe White.
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  Speaker 2: If I it was either keep LaMelo or keep Kobe, Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I'm keeping LaMelo every day and twice on Sunday.
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  Speaker 3: To your point, Bony, I'll ask you, isn't it easier
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  Speaker 3: to find Like I love Kobe White, I think he
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  Speaker 3: should be a must sign, But I feel like you
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  Speaker 3: can find Kobe White's easier, and you find LaMelo balls,
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  Speaker 3: like go find six seven guys that do all of
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  Speaker 3: that stuff, that shoot it, that create, that make everybody
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  Speaker 3: around them better, that rebound.
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  Speaker 5: Like yes, scoring combo scorers. Yeah, you can find. I
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  Speaker 5: mean how fi wand might be one that just got drafted.
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  Speaker 5: There Every draft has a guy that potentially could be Kobe.
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  Speaker 5: Why I agree on that?
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  Speaker 3: Man.
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  Speaker 5: We have an upset Texter that says he's not upset
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  Speaker 5: about the report from Chams that they're no longer building
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  Speaker 5: around Mellow. He wants to know why in the world
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  Speaker 5: will they trade Miles Bridges Miles Bridges fans will be
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  Speaker 5: here till the very end of yeh to it.
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  Speaker 3: A bitter d man one year left on his deal.
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  Speaker 3: Like you talk about saving cap money, this guy's making
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  Speaker 3: twenty three million dollars a year on the final Do
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  Speaker 3: you think they want to uphant re up him at
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  Speaker 3: a similar price or whatever? Like I just to me,
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  Speaker 3: the three guys they should build around are obvious after
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  Speaker 3: last season, LaMelo, Brandon and Cohn. It feels obvious to me.
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  Speaker 3: And you finally have This goes back to one of
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  Speaker 3: our callers. Was it Marquise? Was he the one or Jamal?
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  Speaker 3: I think it was Jamal the one that that didn't
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  Speaker 3: tell us the retire He actually lies us unlike oh Royal.
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  Speaker 3: But you finally, you have been a hapless organization that
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  Speaker 3: has been nothing but frustrate and anger your fans, right
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  Speaker 3: if not flat out bore your fans, And you finally
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  Speaker 3: have something cooking that is exciting and fun. And LaMelo
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  Speaker 3: ball is a ginormous part of that. Why on earth
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  Speaker 3: are now You're like, yeah, let's go trade that guy
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  Speaker 3: now and maybe stop all this momentum that this organization
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  Speaker 3: finally has.
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  Speaker 5: The fans are happy, they're packing the hive. And that's
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  Speaker 5: the other part about this MAC is the business angle.
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  Speaker 5: If you're going to trade a fan favorite for Melo,
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  Speaker 5: don't you sort of I know it's not all about
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  Speaker 5: fan happy this, but part of it is, don't you
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  Speaker 5: have to sort of do something to appease the fans. Also,
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  Speaker 5: if you're trade Mellow, I don't think trading even if
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  Speaker 5: it was on the table, I wouldn't think trading Grudy
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  Speaker 5: Gober for Melow is gonna put backsides in the seats.
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  Speaker 5: You'd have to find something MAC to sell the fans
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  Speaker 5: that we're still this trajectory that we're on and just
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  Speaker 5: a bunch of dudes. I don't think he's gonna do that.
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  Speaker 5: It picks, do you like we're tired, we're tired of
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  Speaker 5: collecting draft picks.
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  Speaker 3: By the way, are you.
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  Speaker 2: Saying Josh Getty doesn't tickle your fancy? Because that's someone's
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  Speaker 2: suggestion on the text line, Josh Giddyon picks Josh gitty'.
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  Speaker 3: Is a good player, but not for Mellow. It doesn't
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  Speaker 3: make me giddy, you know what I mean? That would
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  Speaker 3: not make me giddy. Bone. Jeff Peterson's been very good
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  Speaker 3: at acquiring picks, acquiring assets. But he's done it by
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  Speaker 3: trading people that make sense. He has never once traded
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  Speaker 3: a core member where you're like, whoa and this this
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  Speaker 3: would be that And we're also at a point where
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  Speaker 3: we have made the progress. So what like this is
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  Speaker 3: the kind of deal bone you would have thought the hapless,
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  Speaker 3: sucky Hornets would do. Let's start over again, Tray Lamello.
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  Speaker 3: He's great, but we're not getting anywhere with him. But
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  Speaker 3: you did get somewhere with him last year, and he
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  Speaker 3: improved his health and his game. It's just crazy. Now,
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  Speaker 3: what do you think somebody has given up there? There's
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  Speaker 3: the theory of blaming ownership. We'll talk about that in
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  Speaker 3: a second. But also there's this somebody shared us now
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  Speaker 3: Keys's article Bone SI covers the Hornets, and I guess
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  Speaker 3: he put out there like a mock trade that the
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  Speaker 3: texture is saying, this is the only thing I've seen
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  Speaker 3: that someone intrigues me. Toronto would get LaMelo. Toronto, Milwaukee
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  Speaker 3: and Minnesota are the three teams that we've heard of
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  Speaker 3: being linked to LaMelo. So Toronto gets LaMelo, we get
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  Speaker 3: RJ Barrett Colin, Murray Boyles, Alan Graves, who they just picked,
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  Speaker 3: and then Toronto's twenty twenty eight and twenty thirty first
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  Speaker 3: round picks. This Texter says that has him intrigued. Does
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  Speaker 3: that have you intrigued more than most?
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  Speaker 5: At least that's a that's a better package of stuff
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  Speaker 5: Toronto's got.
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  Speaker 3: Toronto's got some things. I just I don't know.
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  Speaker 5: That's better than I think what Minnesota and Milwaukee will
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  Speaker 5: be offering at this point. But I don't know if
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  Speaker 5: I necessarily do it, But that of these options, that
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  Speaker 5: would be the best.
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  Speaker 3: One I've seen so far.
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  Speaker 7: R J.
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  Speaker 3: Barrett's contract is expiring, so you got him because again,
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  Speaker 3: he doesn't fit here if you have Miller in common, No,
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  Speaker 3: not at all, And maybe you trade his expiring at
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  Speaker 3: some point. Hell, you could trade his expiring and Bridges expiring.
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  Speaker 3: You'd have fifty three million dollars of salary. Could you
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  Speaker 3: go make a run at a big player? But the
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  Speaker 3: problem But the problem is who's looking to trade a
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  Speaker 3: big player and just take on expiring contracts and draft picks? Yeah?
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  Speaker 5: Uh, Barry and Brennan Ingram for this roster I don't
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  Speaker 5: think make a lot of sense. Is the problem with
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  Speaker 5: with Toronto's roster? Scotty Barnes is a great player, but
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  Speaker 5: they're not gonna have Scotty Barnes. That's like there, he's
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  Speaker 5: like their franchise guy.
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  Speaker 3: Right now, again, why are we allowing teams to keep
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  Speaker 3: their stars and we're trading our biggest star? Like again,
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  Speaker 3: that makes sense Bone if you are at a point
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  Speaker 3: of suckitude and you say let's start over. It's not
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  Speaker 3: working or not winning with this guy, but we finally
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  Speaker 3: won with him, Like why now? Yes, it's just crazy
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  Speaker 3: to me. Now, what do you think about this ownership blame?
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  Speaker 3: Blame our boys Schlocken, Schnall and plotkin A. Mitch just
• 14:56
  Speaker 3: flat out called out Schnall our guy. Nada form coworker
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  Speaker 3: not Edwards was using the theory as well that he
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  Speaker 3: thinks ownership is telling Jeff Peterson to do this. Do
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  Speaker 3: you fear that? Obviously we're a little sensitive around here.
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  Speaker 3: Bone to owners meddling. Shout out to the new David
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  Speaker 3: Tepper Tepper two point oh oh baby, you to man Tepper?
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  Speaker 5: What this new temper got Bryce a top one other
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  Speaker 5: player last night? What do you think about do you
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  Speaker 5: do you lend any creed? I mean, it's just spitballing.
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  Speaker 5: Did you let any creams out? Hadn't heard a word
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  Speaker 5: about that. Although the only the only credence I would
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  Speaker 5: say is this is a little bit out the norm
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  Speaker 5: I think for Jeff Peterson. So that is the only
• 15:35
  Speaker 5: thing where he say, man, he's been so good, so measured.
• 15:38
  Speaker 5: Why now, why why would he in this moment in time?
• 15:41
  Speaker 5: So I did say today, Hey, maybe it's not coming
• 15:44
  Speaker 5: from here. I don't know the answer to that, but
• 15:46
  Speaker 5: it does seem a little bit outside the norm for
• 15:50
  Speaker 5: the always measured in thoughtful and approach Jeff Peterson.
• 15:54
  Speaker 3: Owners wanting to trade their biggest cash cow doesn't really
• 15:59
  Speaker 3: make sense to me, you know what I mean, the
• 16:02
  Speaker 3: business side would make sense. The guys that want to
• 16:04
  Speaker 3: make money are the owners. Why would they want to
• 16:08
  Speaker 3: trade you know how much money? How make jerseys they sell?
• 16:10
  Speaker 3: You know, make tickets he sells. So that just feels
• 16:14
  Speaker 3: kind of weird to me. There this TEXTA says, uh,
• 16:19
  Speaker 3: you would trade him because our biggest star isn't a star.
• 16:22
  Speaker 3: He's not an All Star, but he's been one and
• 16:25
  Speaker 3: he was very close to third team All NBA last year.
• 16:28
  Speaker 3: And I would argue, bone, if we win and he
• 16:30
  Speaker 3: plays another season like he did last year in the
• 16:32
  Speaker 3: second half of the year, I would say that there's
• 16:35
  Speaker 3: a very good chance All Star comes with it, and
• 16:37
  Speaker 3: possibly third team All NBA. Yeah.
• 16:39
  Speaker 5: I don't want to downplay what he did. So it's
• 16:42
  Speaker 5: about as close to that as you can get. And
• 16:44
  Speaker 5: he's been an All Star before, so that's it. They've
• 16:47
  Speaker 5: been an All Star the year before. I don't think
• 16:50
  Speaker 5: they met and said, well, he's not been an All Star,
• 16:51
  Speaker 5: let's move them.
• 16:52
  Speaker 3: They care about that. Yeah, so let's see this text. Okay,
• 16:56
  Speaker 3: here's another theory. I love the theories, and we're trying
• 16:59
  Speaker 3: to figure out because, like you said, like this does
• 17:01
  Speaker 3: not seem like this would be the next move for
• 17:04
  Speaker 3: Jeff Peterson with all the momentum we have. Texter says,
• 17:08
  Speaker 3: why has nobody brought up the fact that Lee and
• 17:10
  Speaker 3: Peterson and schnall are all new They all came here
• 17:14
  Speaker 3: and inherited LaMelo. Do you think they could all be
• 17:17
  Speaker 3: Lamello skeptics that don't like the driving, that don't like
• 17:21
  Speaker 3: the immaturity, and that don't like the injuries, and now
• 17:24
  Speaker 3: that his value has been raised, now they're looking to
• 17:27
  Speaker 3: hit the eject button possible.
• 17:31
  Speaker 5: Does that make sense. Does that make sense to you?
• 17:33
  Speaker 5: It does in a way I could see it. They're
• 17:36
  Speaker 5: not tied into Melo being here to begin with, So
• 17:39
  Speaker 5: we don't know how they feel. It's not I'm not
• 17:41
  Speaker 5: saying it's directly what's going on, but it's not impossible
• 17:44
  Speaker 5: that they feel a certain way and they've been looking.
• 17:46
  Speaker 5: Maybe they've been trying to move on and they were
• 17:49
  Speaker 5: waiting to get him healthy.
• 17:50
  Speaker 3: I don't know. It's possible, it's not impossible. No, that's
• 17:52
  Speaker 3: an interesting theory because I mean, Charles Lee's bench LaMelo
• 17:55
  Speaker 3: a couple of times, so I mean, clearly he's been
• 17:58
  Speaker 3: frustrated with him at times, you know. But I thought
• 18:01
  Speaker 3: Charles Lee was getting through to him, and I thought
• 18:03
  Speaker 3: that they would see that LaMelo is improving and he
• 18:06
  Speaker 3: was healthy, and I thought maybe if they were skeptical before,
• 18:09
  Speaker 3: because listen, it's we have heard for we heard for
• 18:12
  Speaker 3: years bone going in the last season. I shouldn't say years,
• 18:15
  Speaker 3: but here we've heard for a while that, hey, Jeff
• 18:18
  Speaker 3: Peterson company, they're not sure about LaMelo. Is he their
• 18:21
  Speaker 3: long term? Did they build around him? Or is he
• 18:23
  Speaker 3: a trade piece? So I think what the Texas saying
• 18:25
  Speaker 3: makes some sense. I guess what I'm saying is, did
• 18:29
  Speaker 3: he not win if y'all were skeptical? Did he not
• 18:31
  Speaker 3: win y'all over last year? Because I feel like he
• 18:34
  Speaker 3: won just about all of us over except that guy
• 18:36
  Speaker 3: Royal earlier that wants that. Well, I guess he was
• 18:39
  Speaker 3: defending LaMelo though, the guy that was waiting into weeds
• 18:42
  Speaker 3: for years, he hated us like Lamello. All right, let
• 18:45
  Speaker 3: me give my story, let me get it straight there.
• 18:46
  Speaker 5: Maggat caller wants to know if Minnesota asked for Eric Collins,
• 18:49
  Speaker 5: would you do it?
• 18:50
  Speaker 3: Now? Do you talking about untouchable? Holy crap, you already
• 18:54
  Speaker 3: took stro from us for your TV network. That's another question.
• 18:57
  Speaker 3: Who are the Hornets Untouchable's EC's on that damn yes
• 19:00
  Speaker 3: right now. Happy birthday to del Curry. Also, by the way,
• 19:03
  Speaker 3: oh yeah, Dale, Happy birthday baby. Dell's thirty eight. Man.
• 19:05
  Speaker 5: It's amazing when we when we come back, Stephen GOI
• 19:08
  Speaker 5: eSPI of no ceilings, NBA mag We got them on
• 19:11
  Speaker 5: to talk about Hannis and Christian Anderson. Now there's new
• 19:15
  Speaker 5: perspectives on that, potentially with mellow in dowed here. We'll
• 19:20
  Speaker 5: talk to Stephen next on Sports Radio ninety two seven WFZ.
• 19:48
  Speaker 3: Sports Radio ninety two seven wf Z text line going crazy.
• 19:55
  Speaker 3: We'll open up the phones again to nine o'clock hour
• 19:58
  Speaker 3: because Hornets fans have something who say about these trade
• 20:02
  Speaker 3: roomors involving LaMelo Ball Toronto, Milwaukee, Minnesota have all been
• 20:07
  Speaker 3: attached as teams they're trying to pursue LaMelo and Chump
• 20:11
  Speaker 3: Sharania literally put a timeline saying something can happen in the
• 20:14
  Speaker 3: next twenty four to forty eight hours. I would say
• 20:17
  Speaker 3: most of us don't want something to happen on this front.
• 20:19
  Speaker 3: So anyway, we're gonna keep talking through this one, and
• 20:22
  Speaker 3: we're obviously we obviously want to recap the draft a
• 20:26
  Speaker 3: little bit too with our next guest as well. But
• 20:28
  Speaker 3: since we booked him for this interview, Bone, things have changed.
• 20:32
  Speaker 3: The LaMelo storyline has kind of gone above our guys
• 20:36
  Speaker 3: Hanus and Christian Anderson in priority, so you know that's
• 20:39
  Speaker 3: going to be involved in the conversation as well. The
• 20:41
  Speaker 3: no ceilings NBA crew man, they really showed out leading
• 20:45
  Speaker 3: up to the draft, though, Bone, whether it was their
• 20:47
  Speaker 3: Draft guide, all the different podcasts and videos and stuff
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: that they did. Great draft content and Stephen Gillespie is
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: back with us from No Ceilings NBA to talk about
• 20:55
  Speaker 3: the Hornets and the draft. Steven, what's going on, man?
• 20:58
  Speaker 3: Just a quiet day in Charlotte today, Mac.
• 21:01
  Speaker 7: And Bone, Good morning. Congratulations on a very relaxed and
• 21:05
  Speaker 7: calm kind of you know, media frenzy that's going on
• 21:09
  Speaker 7: right now for your for your team. How are y'all
• 21:11
  Speaker 7: holding up?
• 21:12
  Speaker 5: I had a bunch of questions about the hand size
• 21:14
  Speaker 5: of Haness and then I realized that's not happening right now.
• 21:18
  Speaker 3: Wait on that momentarily? Oh man, So like you, we're
• 21:21
  Speaker 3: obviously we're in the forest, so maybe we don't see
• 21:25
  Speaker 3: the tree. So I'm gonna ask you for your perspective
• 21:27
  Speaker 3: as someone that can just be measured about this because
• 21:29
  Speaker 3: we're emotional about it. But like, does it does? Does
• 21:33
  Speaker 3: this it all make sense to you? The Hornets after
• 21:35
  Speaker 3: the year, they have the momentum they have, LaMelo finally
• 21:38
  Speaker 3: stayed healthy, made strides in his game. Like, does it
• 21:43
  Speaker 3: make sense that they would be willing to trade him? Now?
• 21:45
  Speaker 3: What do you think?
• 21:47
  Speaker 7: I don't know, Like, I think I have more questions
• 21:50
  Speaker 7: for y'all. I understand that you're in the forest, but
• 21:52
  Speaker 7: I feel like I'm in the wandering desert right now,
• 21:54
  Speaker 7: just trying to figure out, like, how in the world
• 21:57
  Speaker 7: do you have the season that you have? It felt
• 21:59
  Speaker 7: like just one of the most It felt like everybody's
• 22:02
  Speaker 7: second favorite team outside of Charlotte was the Hornet, you know,
• 22:05
  Speaker 7: like everybody fell in love with that team. And now
• 22:07
  Speaker 7: all of a sudden, they're talking about Tradon Mellow, Like,
• 22:10
  Speaker 7: I'm wondering if that's like from him in his camp
• 22:13
  Speaker 7: as opposed to the team, because like, even though y'all
• 22:16
  Speaker 7: did draft a point guard that I know that we're
• 22:17
  Speaker 7: going to talk about here in a second, Yeah, I
• 22:19
  Speaker 7: don't know if that's the immediate replacement.
• 22:22
  Speaker 5: You know, Steven a Texter said why now and not
• 22:27
  Speaker 5: before the draft? And we had a rumor last week
• 22:31
  Speaker 5: that the Hornets were trying to get up to seven
• 22:33
  Speaker 5: for Sacramento. We thought, oh, that's got to be for Mara.
• 22:36
  Speaker 5: Now we look at it as well, maybe it wasn't.
• 22:39
  Speaker 5: Maybe it was for a guard. Do you do you
• 22:41
  Speaker 5: think maybe the Hornets tried to get one of those guards.
• 22:44
  Speaker 5: But we had the rare draft where those teams in
• 22:48
  Speaker 5: that range one through twelve, really we're not willing to
• 22:51
  Speaker 5: move off their picks.
• 22:53
  Speaker 7: I mean, that would make a lot of sense, just
• 22:55
  Speaker 7: because you know the top four of this class obviously,
• 22:58
  Speaker 7: you know with cam kleb Aj and Darren, like that's
• 23:01
  Speaker 7: where obviously a lot of the heavy lifting of this
• 23:04
  Speaker 7: class comes from. But I would say the identity of
• 23:07
  Speaker 7: this class lied heavily in the freshman guards and even
• 23:10
  Speaker 7: some of the upper classmen. And the fact that you
• 23:13
  Speaker 7: would want to trade up to seven would indicate to
• 23:15
  Speaker 7: me that you were after one of those guards, because
• 23:19
  Speaker 7: I mean, to me, anything outside of that at at
• 23:22
  Speaker 7: that spot would be a reach. So I mean, it
• 23:25
  Speaker 7: would make sense. And you know, we always found out
• 23:29
  Speaker 7: that you know the whole now they tell this thing
• 23:30
  Speaker 7: that comes out later.
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised.
• 23:33
  Speaker 7: If that would be one of the kind of the
• 23:35
  Speaker 7: sub stories of that piece.
• 23:36
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it makes because bone what was our thing? We
• 23:39
  Speaker 3: were trying to figure out, why do you want to
• 23:40
  Speaker 3: get up in Guardville? We thought got a point guard?
• 23:44
  Speaker 3: Yeah that's not sorry, you want mores maybe way early
• 23:47
  Speaker 3: so no one takes him, right, but like maybe maybe
• 23:51
  Speaker 3: all along they're thinking and.
• 23:52
  Speaker 5: Sacramento placed Sacramento, who was the rumor tie was they
• 23:57
  Speaker 5: were a cuff or bus.
• 23:58
  Speaker 3: Basically, that's crazy. A actually wanted to play in Sacramento.
• 24:01
  Speaker 3: I don't know how that happens, Steven, how we found
• 24:02
  Speaker 3: someone who wants to play in Sacramento. But that that's
• 24:05
  Speaker 3: a twist, all right. So let's talk about the draft
• 24:08
  Speaker 3: prospects because Steven, you guys, like I said earlier, no ceilings.
• 24:12
  Speaker 3: NBA have been breaking down the draft prospects for weeks.
• 24:15
  Speaker 3: Let's start with Christian Anderson. Like, so, if they traded LaMelo,
• 24:19
  Speaker 3: I can't imagine you're doing that without re signing Kobe White, like,
• 24:23
  Speaker 3: you know, I just if you're gonna lose them both,
• 24:25
  Speaker 3: I mean, my lord, we're going to be despondent here.
• 24:27
  Speaker 3: So let's go with a world where Kobe White is
• 24:29
  Speaker 3: your starting point guard then and then Anderson is the
• 24:33
  Speaker 3: backup point guard. How would you feel about that duo?
• 24:36
  Speaker 3: And do you feel is Anderson ready to be, like,
• 24:39
  Speaker 3: you know, a primary backup in the NBA right now?
• 24:42
  Speaker 3: What do you think?
• 24:43
  Speaker 7: I think that him being you know, your your first
• 24:45
  Speaker 7: guard off the bench does make a lot of sense.
• 24:49
  Speaker 7: You know, there's a lot of studies that have come
• 24:51
  Speaker 7: out of guards or prospects in general, who come into
• 24:54
  Speaker 7: the combine weighing underneath one hundred and eighty pounds and like,
• 24:58
  Speaker 7: how slippery of a slope that is find success in
• 25:00
  Speaker 7: the NBA.
• 25:02
  Speaker 3: The good news is.
• 25:03
  Speaker 7: That Christian was like right at the one eighty threshold
• 25:05
  Speaker 7: similar to that of a shake yogis Alexander. Now, I'm
• 25:08
  Speaker 7: not going to sit here and tell you he's gonna
• 25:09
  Speaker 7: be SGA, but at least there's a path to success
• 25:12
  Speaker 7: for him, and the numbers are in his favor in
• 25:16
  Speaker 7: that respect. But I mean, he's going to have to
• 25:18
  Speaker 7: learn a lot. I think that he does fit like
• 25:21
  Speaker 7: the mindset of this team because you know, watching him
• 25:23
  Speaker 7: at Texas Tech, he played off of other guys who
• 25:26
  Speaker 7: could either pressure the rim or who could help space
• 25:29
  Speaker 7: the floor. I think him coming off of the bench
• 25:32
  Speaker 7: makes a lot of sense with some of the lineups
• 25:33
  Speaker 7: that you could run if you're splitting action or time
• 25:36
  Speaker 7: between you know, Miller.
• 25:38
  Speaker 3: Or Kahn or what have you.
• 25:40
  Speaker 7: Right, So I think that him being in the second
• 25:42
  Speaker 7: unit makes a lot of sense, And you know you're
• 25:44
  Speaker 7: hoping eventually, I mean, I guess, especially if you're moving
• 25:47
  Speaker 7: off a lamello, that he might work his way up
• 25:50
  Speaker 7: into being a starting level guard. Probably probably not an
• 25:53
  Speaker 7: All star, but I mean a good starter at that
• 25:55
  Speaker 7: selection is you know, still a home run pick.
• 25:58
  Speaker 3: Who were you higher on any the draft Stertz or Anderson.
• 26:02
  Speaker 7: I was more of a Sturtz guy, just because you know,
• 26:06
  Speaker 7: the size, the feel. I mean, we haven't really seen
• 26:09
  Speaker 7: him playing an ancillary role before, but his skills are
• 26:13
  Speaker 7: a little bit more cleaner and projectible in my opinion.
• 26:16
  Speaker 7: I mean the margins are then they were really close
• 26:18
  Speaker 7: on my board, like and in the same tier. I
• 26:21
  Speaker 7: just feel more confident with the size and the ability
• 26:25
  Speaker 7: that we've seen from Starts just to succeed pretty much
• 26:27
  Speaker 7: at every level on high usage in a high minutes role.
• 26:30
  Speaker 7: But again I didn't have Anderson too far down the line.
• 26:33
  Speaker 7: I was just more preferential to Starts, and.
• 26:35
  Speaker 3: It's possible the Hornets were too, right he gets picked before,
• 26:38
  Speaker 3: you know, if he was on the board, maybe they
• 26:40
  Speaker 3: take him. There were some reports linking Starts to the
• 26:42
  Speaker 3: Hornets and talk about a workout that he had, so
• 26:45
  Speaker 3: maybe he was, you know, in their priority order over
• 26:50
  Speaker 3: over Anderson. We're talking with Stephen Gillespie no ceilings MBA.
• 26:54
  Speaker 3: We started with the LaMelo. You know, blockbuster trade talks
• 26:58
  Speaker 3: that are reportedly going on were now easing into these
• 27:01
  Speaker 3: guys in the draft. Let's talk about Hannas Steinbach. It
• 27:05
  Speaker 3: feels to me like the debate in the minds of
• 27:08
  Speaker 3: a lot of your brethren and the draft analyst community
• 27:11
  Speaker 3: is is he ultimately a good first big, off the
• 27:15
  Speaker 3: bench type player or is he ultimately a good starting big.
• 27:21
  Speaker 3: Where do you fall on that? Where do you think
• 27:23
  Speaker 3: he ends up in his career? What role?
• 27:25
  Speaker 7: I think, you know, I hate to give a boring
• 27:28
  Speaker 7: answer here, but sometimes I think, you know, my opinion
• 27:31
  Speaker 7: will change based off of the team that the player
• 27:33
  Speaker 7: goes to.
• 27:34
  Speaker 3: I really love.
• 27:35
  Speaker 7: The marriage of Steinbach to Charlotte because I think that
• 27:38
  Speaker 7: he goes and does all of the things that he's
• 27:41
  Speaker 7: best at in some of the more concerning aspects, like
• 27:44
  Speaker 7: on this team in particular, you're not necessarily worried about,
• 27:47
  Speaker 7: you know, I think that him being in Charlotte, obviously
• 27:50
  Speaker 7: he's going to be the premier rebounder. I feel like
• 27:53
  Speaker 7: on your team in the long term, that's his skill
• 27:55
  Speaker 7: set coming in and he's been a dominant rebounder pretty
• 27:59
  Speaker 7: much at every level every stage of his career. And
• 28:02
  Speaker 7: then you know, a projectable shooter shot about thirty four
• 28:04
  Speaker 7: percent from deep while he was at Washington this year.
• 28:07
  Speaker 7: For his agent at his position, that's a pretty respectable
• 28:11
  Speaker 7: and favorable metric. So I think that he kind of
• 28:14
  Speaker 7: helped space this floor and that's something that you guys
• 28:18
  Speaker 7: excelled at this season. The biggest question that I have,
• 28:21
  Speaker 7: and it might have had to do with where he
• 28:23
  Speaker 7: played basketball this year, because you know, Washington wasn't necessarily
• 28:26
  Speaker 7: a powerhouse, is like his ability to play make because
• 28:30
  Speaker 7: I think he draws a lot of comparisons to your Domasa,
• 28:33
  Speaker 7: Boninus Alper and Shane Gooon type guys. But those were
• 28:36
  Speaker 7: clear cut, like really good playmaking big men. We didn't
• 28:40
  Speaker 7: really get to see a lot of that with uh Hanis.
• 28:43
  Speaker 7: I'm not saying that he can't, we just didn't really
• 28:45
  Speaker 7: see it on volume. And if you value production over projection,
• 28:49
  Speaker 7: that's probably the biggest question that you have with him
• 28:51
  Speaker 7: coming in.
• 28:52
  Speaker 5: Yeah, you think he can be a five or is
• 28:54
  Speaker 5: he more of a four? Why would you play him?
• 28:57
  Speaker 7: I mean he could be probably a tweener a kin.
• 29:00
  Speaker 7: You know, I'm not saying, like you know, strength for
• 29:03
  Speaker 7: strength with and Isaiah Stewart, but I think he can
• 29:07
  Speaker 7: talk back and forth between just based on who the
• 29:09
  Speaker 7: other front court made he is out there with. You know,
• 29:12
  Speaker 7: I think that with him and Ryan, you probably want
• 29:14
  Speaker 7: him spacing the floor. But if you want to go
• 29:16
  Speaker 7: smaller and have you know, one of your four spacing,
• 29:20
  Speaker 7: you know, four men out there, you probably can survive
• 29:22
  Speaker 7: with him being out there for stretchers at the five.
• 29:25
  Speaker 7: The biggest thing is that he's going to have to
• 29:27
  Speaker 7: be more productive on the defensive end. I think he
• 29:30
  Speaker 7: knows where to be and he's a really smart guy.
• 29:33
  Speaker 7: He's just not like a disruptive defender either, So you
• 29:36
  Speaker 7: probably want to see him at the four more often.
• 29:39
  Speaker 7: But I think that you can get by with him
• 29:40
  Speaker 7: playing a few minutes a game at the five.
• 29:42
  Speaker 3: You mentioned his shot right like that you talked about
• 29:45
  Speaker 3: the playmaking piece, like is there more there in terms
• 29:48
  Speaker 3: of playing through him and him setting up others? I
• 29:51
  Speaker 3: also wonder about that shot. You mentioned his shot. Are
• 29:54
  Speaker 3: you a believer that he will ultimately shot thirty four
• 29:57
  Speaker 3: percent low volume? Are you a believer that he ultimately
• 30:00
  Speaker 3: will be like a stretch bag or are you skeptical
• 30:03
  Speaker 3: of that.
• 30:05
  Speaker 7: I'm a little bit more on the skeptical side, but
• 30:07
  Speaker 7: I think that he could be at least respectable and
• 30:10
  Speaker 7: have people come out there and guard him at some point.
• 30:13
  Speaker 7: I'm not gonna I wouldn't project him to be, you know,
• 30:16
  Speaker 7: like a forty point or forty percent three point shooter
• 30:19
  Speaker 7: moving forward, but I think if he can get to
• 30:21
  Speaker 7: that like thirty five thirty six percent level at decent volume,
• 30:26
  Speaker 7: like that's still going to be a win. And that's
• 30:28
  Speaker 7: me being on the lower end. You know, there's people
• 30:30
  Speaker 7: in the NBA obviously, but even at no ceilings who
• 30:33
  Speaker 7: are definitely more optimistic on the shooting projection. So even
• 30:38
  Speaker 7: me being on like what I would say, the lower
• 30:40
  Speaker 7: end for our group, I still think that he'll be
• 30:42
  Speaker 7: respectable from deep wish again, at his size and the position,
• 30:46
  Speaker 7: that's a win.
• 30:47
  Speaker 3: All right, Maybe we should conference in the one of
• 30:48
  Speaker 3: the guys that is is it likes him better than you?
• 30:51
  Speaker 3: All right, seriously, Steven? All right, No, Steven, you actually
• 30:54
  Speaker 3: provided a service. You calmed us down, You allowed us
• 30:57
  Speaker 3: to chill better. Now stop our freak out and focus
• 31:00
  Speaker 3: on our draft picks for a few minutes. Now we
• 31:02
  Speaker 3: will go back to freaking out. Appreciate you, and I
• 31:05
  Speaker 3: do all the compliments about you guys in your coverage,
• 31:08
  Speaker 3: and you know, a bunch of guys came on with
• 31:10
  Speaker 3: us and your content is great. No Ceilings NBA, y'all
• 31:12
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• 31:15
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• 31:18
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• 31:19
  Speaker 1: Uh.
• 31:19
  Speaker 3: He is Stephen Gillespie, Thank you, Steven, appreciate you, mag Bone,
• 31:23
  Speaker 3: thanks for having me.
• 31:24
  Speaker 7: You'll have a good rest of your day.
• 31:25
  Speaker 3: Hi you man, thank you be good. There you go.
• 31:27
  Speaker 5: Stephen Gillespie from the no Ceilings nb A team. I
• 31:31
  Speaker 5: read a twenty twenty seven mock today, but I will
• 31:33
  Speaker 5: I will tell you what I read. It is a
• 31:35
  Speaker 5: different can it is. It is such a different feel
• 31:39
  Speaker 5: bat than what we just solve. It is a definitely
• 31:42
  Speaker 5: right now big pats number nine in the mock. Oh jeez,
• 31:45
  Speaker 5: ram Sar to the Hornets at fourteen.
• 31:48
  Speaker 3: I heard twenty twenty seven is the year that we
• 31:50
  Speaker 3: trained Con and Brandon. So we've got try well, just
• 31:52
  Speaker 3: go all the good players we have. We just go
• 31:54
  Speaker 3: work on getting rid of That's what the I feel
• 31:56
  Speaker 3: like the old regime. We'll get rid of actual good play.
• 31:58
  Speaker 3: What do we do? What are we doing, What are
• 32:00
  Speaker 3: we doing? All right? All right? You gotta go to
• 32:02
  Speaker 3: Fitty with an update, right, Fit, This is a guy
• 32:04
  Speaker 3: that will bring calm to the city. Guy never trained.
• 32:07
  Speaker 3: This guy no untouchable, baby, untouchable. What's up? Fit can't
• 32:11
  Speaker 3: touch him at all and no one has tried. I'm sorry, man,
• 32:18
  Speaker 3: I'm sorry fitting. No worries, guys.
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• 32:54
  Speaker 2: Maybe Mac, you can call them to get an alarm
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: so you can show up to work on time for
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: being late.
• 32:58
  Speaker 3: Back to back day, say, I.
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: Asked for permission, arrested though I asked for permission for
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: us to both vent about the state of our baseball
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: teamsm mac my beloved New York Mets, with the second
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: highest payroll in baseball, built to a season worst twelve
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: games under five hundred. Last night, in a game where
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: they scored five runs but committed six errors and a
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: tense ten to.
• 33:24
  Speaker 3: Five loss to the Cubs.
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: They have now given up fifty runs fifty in the
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: last five games.
• 33:32
  Speaker 5: Jeez, got six errors in one game? Yes, you had
• 33:35
  Speaker 5: five runs, right?
• 33:36
  Speaker 3: Errors in a game? Has boned it in the opening segment? Oh, no,
• 33:40
  Speaker 3: one is safe this segment. Yeah, my biggest error was
• 33:43
  Speaker 3: seeing you today. You know what, though, I don't really
• 33:47
  Speaker 3: need to vent about the Orioles anymore. You just made
• 33:49
  Speaker 3: me feel better. All the Orioles did poop a game away.
• 33:51
  Speaker 5: They did have the Norwegian soccer fans of the crowd, Yes,
• 33:53
  Speaker 5: they do in their rowing.
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah, there were five hundred at the beginning of the game, Mac,
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: there were like fifty by the end. I don't know
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: if baseball was moving too slow, or maybe they were just.
• 34:03
  Speaker 3: That disgusted with the way the Mets were playing. Did
• 34:06
  Speaker 3: you seebone the Canadians are trying to steal the Norwegian row. Yeah,
• 34:09
  Speaker 3: they're trying to do their own little one arm version
• 34:12
  Speaker 3: of the row. Looks like they're rowing a canoe. It's embarrassing. Seriously,
• 34:15
  Speaker 3: Canada do better. My God, and do better on the
• 34:18
  Speaker 3: touch line than that absolute maniac lunatic America hating Jesse
• 34:23
  Speaker 3: March that wants to steal out. Come in with some sanctions.
• 34:28
  Speaker 5: All right, when we come back nine click, nine o'clock
• 34:31
  Speaker 5: hour is gonna be all full Hornet stuff.
• 34:33
  Speaker 3: But the next teg with Mac, this is serious.
• 34:35
  Speaker 5: This is Syria a little bit Hornets weather Band Mark
• 34:38
  Speaker 5: heads to Judge Whopper's court for ripping Jeff Peterson the
• 34:42
  Speaker 5: other night before he made a draft choice. He'll try
• 34:46
  Speaker 5: to explain himself to Judge Whopper. Next up Sports Radio
• 34:49
  Speaker 5: ninety two seven WFNZ. We need to head into Judge
• 35:14
  Speaker 5: Whapper's courtroom.
• 35:15
  Speaker 3: And by the way, I see Willie Pete, Willie Pete,
• 35:17
  Speaker 3: don't linger outside the courtroom. You may be brought in
• 35:19
  Speaker 3: here as a defendant at some boyck, But right now
• 35:22
  Speaker 3: the defendant is one weather Man. Mark accused of being
• 35:27
  Speaker 3: a completely irrational Hornets fan on draft night, tweeting out
• 35:31
  Speaker 3: and I didn't know this bone until we talked to
• 35:33
  Speaker 3: Walker yesterday, texting similar stuff to the Draft show while
• 35:37
  Speaker 3: they were on the air the other night. His tweet said,
• 35:41
  Speaker 3: just because Hanna Steinbach all the Michigan guys are going
• 35:45
  Speaker 3: Hannah Steinbach is on the board, but it's the thirteenth pick.
• 35:49
  Speaker 3: I send out a tweet stressed out if they take
• 35:51
  Speaker 3: Hanna Steinbach, what the heck are we going to do?
• 35:54
  Speaker 3: And then weather Man Mark quote tweets it and expresses
• 36:00
  Speaker 3: that he is done with tonight's draft. He is going
• 36:02
  Speaker 3: to bed and more proof that Jeff Peterson can't draft.
• 36:07
  Speaker 5: I made contact with Mark yesterday before setting the trial
• 36:11
  Speaker 5: here with the great Judge Whopper, here the steam Judge Wopper.
• 36:18
  Speaker 5: Judge weather Man Mark did claim a glitch that his
• 36:22
  Speaker 5: text to the show were somehow showing up on Twitter.
• 36:26
  Speaker 3: I want to present that he's saying that was a
• 36:28
  Speaker 3: text to Walker KB and the guys, but it ended
• 36:31
  Speaker 3: up on Twitter tweet on your tweet. All right, well,
• 36:35
  Speaker 3: let's get more into the man's that old glitch. Judge
• 36:39
  Speaker 3: Wopper will rule was Mark an irrational Hornets fan? Should
• 36:42
  Speaker 3: he be punished?
• 36:43
  Speaker 5: Uh?
• 36:44
  Speaker 3: His peers can rule out there as well at a
• 36:46
  Speaker 3: jury on the text line seven O four five seven
• 36:49
  Speaker 3: oh nine sixtent. But this is America, baby, there's a process.
• 36:52
  Speaker 3: There's a due process. Let's hear Mark out. Weather Man
• 36:56
  Speaker 3: Mark is here to defend himself weather Man, Mark, what's
• 36:58
  Speaker 3: going on, man? How you been?
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: Hey man? Thanks for having me on guys. Good to
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: hear from you again.
• 37:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah, did to hear from you, man, although you got
• 37:07
  Speaker 3: salty the other night. What is you? Please stay? Please
• 37:10
  Speaker 3: stay your name, sir.
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: That shows you what happens when your emotions get the
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: best of you, my friend. Yeah, you got to understand.
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: I get all wound up in the draft. Man. It's
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: like playing a basketball game for me. What I was
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: a little bit of rational with that second comment, But
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: the first comment I simply mean. I simply meant we
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: failed at getting the three Michigan guys. I really wanted
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: one of those three guys.
• 37:40
  Speaker 5: You know. You also said Jeff Peters. Did you also
• 37:43
  Speaker 5: mentioned Jeff Peterson k draft? But what about com last year?
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I was a little harsh on that. I'm a
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: little harsh on that young man. I didn't like one
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: of his drafts though. I didn't like one of his
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: draft few years ago, getting Salon at Uh.
• 38:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that under three in.
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: The first round. You don't draft a role player that
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: early in the draft. I didn't like that. Last year
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: he nailed it.
• 38:10
  Speaker 3: That you can criticize, now, did you really you deny?
• 38:13
  Speaker 3: You denied though all this happening, and then later on
• 38:17
  Speaker 3: you came in, Yeah what happened?
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: And I later told you I forgot about tweeting.
• 38:24
  Speaker 3: Matt.
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: I did do that. Man knows you how emotionally wound
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: up I was. And it was so late at night,
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: I was like, oh, man, I did do that thing.
• 38:41
  Speaker 3: So did you really go to sleep and not even
• 38:43
  Speaker 3: watch the hornets pick? Because that feels a little extreme,
• 38:46
  Speaker 3: like they hadn't even picked yet.
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: At least No, I listened to it. I listened to it.
• 38:50
  Speaker 3: Okay, all right there we felt like going to bed.
• 38:55
  Speaker 3: So you see, Wolf didn't like to pick, even though
• 38:59
  Speaker 3: he didn't make yet.
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: I'm not, I'm not. I'm not so upset about him.
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: I don't. I just really wanted to throw one of
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: the three Michigan's. I think we failed to get in
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: a rim protector. I like kulk Brenner, but I don't
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: think he can move side to side now.
• 39:19
  Speaker 5: Now that they did, they fail or did the other
• 39:22
  Speaker 5: teams just simply not want to deal in trade? There
• 39:24
  Speaker 5: wasn't There wasn't a lot of good. There wasn't a
• 39:26
  Speaker 5: lot of movement there from those teams. It sounds like
• 39:28
  Speaker 5: we tried to move up, Mark, So why can you
• 39:29
  Speaker 5: be mad at us? Maybe you just got to tip
• 39:31
  Speaker 5: your hat to the other teams to say y'all made
• 39:33
  Speaker 5: good picks.
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah they did. I wanted to Maraw, I.
• 39:37
  Speaker 3: Don't blame you. I don't blame you. That's a rim
• 39:38
  Speaker 3: protector there. Now I need to ask you Mark, because
• 39:41
  Speaker 3: since since that whole incident, and I haven't checked Mark's Twitter,
• 39:46
  Speaker 3: I don't know if he has lashed out on Twitter
• 39:49
  Speaker 3: with a tweet he does not remember since the LaMelo
• 39:52
  Speaker 3: trade rumors, does this make You're already been very hard
• 39:55
  Speaker 3: on Jeff Peterson? Does this make you angrier?
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: I heard about it this morning. I will tell you
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: I'm not happy because I am a Lamella ball fan.
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: And for this simple, uh, the simple fact that he
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: played near a lot of games last year he didn't
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: have problems with these ankles. I think that's an exceptional
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: young man and basketball player. And here you are one
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: that prayed one of your best basketball players. You've got
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: to be kidnap me.
• 40:29
  Speaker 3: Now he's making sense, but now he's coming around you.
• 40:32
  Speaker 5: I didn't realize did you lash out out your haters
• 40:35
  Speaker 5: yesterday on Twitter and tell them to go back.
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: To their to go back into their mama's base.
• 40:41
  Speaker 3: Now, who are you talking about the people.
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: That were calling me dumbass?
• 40:46
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, you got I forgot about that, bum I said.
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: You know, people do have an opinion. You know, that's
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: what social media is for. People do have different thoughts
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: about saying but a lot of people agreed with It's me.
• 41:00
  Speaker 3: Okay, well you got that going for you as well.
• 41:02
  Speaker 3: I don't. We need to get them.
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: And Judge Waller, if people were calling me names, it
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: was a little mean torch up and I'm like, man,
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: I'm not all about that. Just go back to you
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: mama's basement and you can take care of yourself down there.
• 41:16
  Speaker 3: All right, Judge Whapper, you need the personal towards Flounder.
• 41:20
  Speaker 3: I'm not gonna like you to me.
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: I will come. I love Flounder. But he told me that.
• 41:29
  Speaker 7: Uh.
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: I said, just whatever, because I was upset. What do
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: you say to he said, we still got the rest
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: of the draft to do and good players. I'm like, whatever,
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: anything or you just go back and you be miserable.
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: I'm not miserable.
• 41:45
  Speaker 3: Dude, No, not at all. You are like sporadically miserable.
• 41:48
  Speaker 3: You have fits of misery, and then I feel like
• 41:51
  Speaker 3: today you've been able to acknowledge how.
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: To get upset over something you know, at some point before.
• 41:56
  Speaker 3: It happens about me. Not before it happens, though, You
• 41:59
  Speaker 3: got upset about something that didn't even happen yet. That's
• 42:02
  Speaker 3: where we're you know what I mean, that's why you're
• 42:03
  Speaker 3: in Judge Whopper's court. Are you mad? The guy called dog?
• 42:07
  Speaker 3: He said, I know, Deputy Dog. Stop that now, people,
• 42:10
  Speaker 3: We got to stop name calling this man. This is
• 42:12
  Speaker 3: an accountable man humbling in front of flounder rise. You
• 42:18
  Speaker 3: never want to be flounder rise.
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: Problem. All right, we gotta go to Judgeitorials flan and
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: I am too man.
• 42:27
  Speaker 3: That's right. That's tarhe on tarholl crime. We don't need that.
• 42:30
  Speaker 3: Judge Whoppers still hurting after that. Yeah, I don't blame you.
• 42:35
  Speaker 3: That was a molly wopping. You know, that was ugly.
• 42:40
  Speaker 3: That was ugly. That's like what granny That's like what
• 42:42
  Speaker 3: Granny Pat did you in the last Panther fan round table?
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 42:51
  Speaker 3: The you got that paddle out here? All right, Judge
• 42:55
  Speaker 3: Whopper's got a rule here, Mark, silence in the court.
• 42:58
  Speaker 3: Silence in the court. Judge, is Mark guilty of being
• 43:03
  Speaker 3: an irrational Charlotte sports fan? Absolutely?
• 43:07
  Speaker 2: You have all all the evidence points to Mark Weatherman
• 43:11
  Speaker 2: Mark being being guilty here. You at least have to
• 43:15
  Speaker 2: let them make the pick before you send out a tweet.
• 43:18
  Speaker 3: I've been there before.
• 43:19
  Speaker 2: I've been there plenty of times with certain with certain picks.
• 43:22
  Speaker 2: So weather Man, Mark, the next time that you're getting
• 43:25
  Speaker 2: worked up, just go outside, check on your turbines, then
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: get on Twitter, make sure the.
• 43:30
  Speaker 3: Weather first clear, and then send out a tweiteter to reaction.
• 43:35
  Speaker 3: What's his punishment? Is there a punishment for him or no?
• 43:38
  Speaker 3: Judge whopper, I don't. I don't know how you how
• 43:41
  Speaker 3: do you punish a weatherman? You have to go to
• 43:43
  Speaker 3: lunch with DVR Dave.
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: Rose, Come on, help me out, man.
• 43:50
  Speaker 3: Send them for lunch with DVR Day Dave. You have
• 43:54
  Speaker 3: to sit with DVR Day for four hours as he
• 43:58
  Speaker 3: cackles like that and tells you stories about dressing up
• 44:01
  Speaker 3: as uh, you know, as medieval times. All right, anyway,
• 44:07
  Speaker 3: you got a good laugh to Mark, Markie, We appreciate
• 44:10
  Speaker 3: you man, thanks for having fun with us all I
• 44:11
  Speaker 3: keep it together though in the future market. All right,
• 44:16
  Speaker 3: be good. There you go. That is weather Man bar
• 44:18
  Speaker 3: who seemed to all but admit bone his wrongdoing. Yeahs,
• 44:22
  Speaker 3: last shot.
• 44:23
  Speaker 5: At the Carolina Hurricanes during the Cup running got saying
• 44:25
  Speaker 5: that he was so furious at the goaltending and then
• 44:28
  Speaker 5: they're never going to win it all.
• 44:29
  Speaker 3: And then he came back later. He came back.
• 44:32
  Speaker 5: He came back later and said, I was just trying
• 44:34
  Speaker 5: to motivate. Oh guys, I called him Deputy dog of
• 44:37
  Speaker 5: the text.
• 44:38
  Speaker 3: That's cold man. Y'all say, can we speed him up?
• 44:40
  Speaker 3: He's on slow MoU called him Gomer Pile anyway, Oh
• 44:45
  Speaker 3: my god, y'all are cracking me up. Mark's it original, man?
• 44:48
  Speaker 3: He is a damner.
• 44:50
  Speaker 5: Does boat have a factory? A guy's name Mark? He producers? No,
• 44:53
  Speaker 5: I didn't produce this.
• 44:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you got an all marked team, baby, an all
• 44:57
  Speaker 3: Mark team that you are built.
• 45:00
  Speaker 5: Right back when we come back, it's more hornets talk.
• 45:03
  Speaker 5: We love and respect and trust Jeff Peterson. So we
• 45:06
  Speaker 5: try to figure out what's going on here. And Rod
• 45:08
  Speaker 5: Boot has waited in this morning as well with some
• 45:11
  Speaker 5: source info. We'll talk about that in More Sports Radio
• 45:14
  Speaker 5: ninety two seven WFNZA