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Jaguars Happy Hour | Minicamp Review, Intriguing Position Groups & More · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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  Speaker 1: It is Thursday, June.
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  Speaker 2: Well, this is Jaguars Happy Hour. Jaguars Happy Hour is
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  Speaker 2: brought to you by dream Finders Homes and now a
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  Speaker 2: guy who witnessed a truckload of coughs overturn on the highway.
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  Speaker 3: On the way in this morning. Luckily there is no
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  Speaker 3: congestion for over eight hours. JP Chacker, welcome in. It
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  Speaker 3: is Jaguars Happy Hour, presented by dream Finders Homes, official
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  Speaker 3: homebuilder of the Jacksonville Jaguars. It's our final show of
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  Speaker 3: the off season program. Vacation begins in about an hour
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  Speaker 3: from right now. We'll be back in late July. JP
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  Speaker 3: Shadick Jeff Flogaman on ten to next lam Jaguars dot Com,
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  Speaker 3: Jaguars YouTube. Good afternoon, Jeff.
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  Speaker 1: How's your congestion?
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  Speaker 3: Clear as a bell? Apparently about the last show because
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  Speaker 3: it means that there's gonna be a little bit of
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  Speaker 3: a break for us.
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  Speaker 1: But you know this is the.
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  Speaker 3: Time of a good break. Well, there's nothing wrong with
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  Speaker 3: a great break, but this is the time of year
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  Speaker 3: too that the players really need to take a break
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  Speaker 3: from a mental standpoint, not from a physical standpoint. The
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  Speaker 3: training still has to go on, but you've got to
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  Speaker 3: be able to step away for a while to kind
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  Speaker 3: of to get ready to focus in and lock in
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  Speaker 3: for a season, because I mean that's it's incredibly demanding.
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  Speaker 3: A lot of people kind of don't understand the mental grind.
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  Speaker 3: I mean people think that playing football is easy. It's
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  Speaker 3: just you're being an athlete. Well, try dealing with about
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  Speaker 3: fifteen different injuries throughout the course of about six months
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  Speaker 3: and trying to perform at your best level. I mean
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  Speaker 3: it's hard. It's hard, and it takes a lot of
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  Speaker 3: mental concentration and mental strength to be able to do that.
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  Speaker 3: And there's only one way that you can prepare yourself,
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  Speaker 3: and that's to get the mind free and clear and
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  Speaker 3: refreshed once you roll back up in here and then
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  Speaker 3: from the physical part of that coming up. You can't
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  Speaker 3: just be sitting on the couch eating cheetos the whole time.
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  Speaker 3: But there are days that are that's okay, it's called
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  Speaker 3: cheat daye Yes, I don't want to say cheetos. But
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  Speaker 3: but I think also part of part of this time
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  Speaker 3: of getting away is that you have days that you
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  Speaker 3: break the discipline to treat yourself to something nice. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: it's a reward you know, and and I had I
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  Speaker 3: had one day a week that I always used to
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  Speaker 3: do though really when I when I played during when
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  Speaker 3: I was training in the off season, and that I
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  Speaker 3: would always pick one day to have something.
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  Speaker 1: That wasn't great for you, you know.
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  Speaker 3: And I probably had more than just one a week,
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  Speaker 3: but I tried to keep it to one a week,
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  Speaker 3: and and it was good because I mean it just again,
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  Speaker 3: it kind of allowed you to just be human, you know,
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  Speaker 3: instead of this.
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  Speaker 1: Going back to the Rocky movie, right when Drago.
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  Speaker 3: This machine preparing and no pizza, no burgers, no ice cream.
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  Speaker 3: Wait a minute, Wait a minute. You got to have
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  Speaker 3: a little bit of fun. And that's why Rocky was
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  Speaker 3: able to beat him by the way he had a
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  Speaker 3: little bit of well, he trained in Siberia. It was
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  Speaker 3: the tough way. He went to the scenic rout to
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  Speaker 3: do it. Yes, you got to be able to you
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  Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. You got to have a little
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  Speaker 3: bit of mental fun through the whole process and physical fun.
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  Speaker 3: We'll get to the off season coming up here in
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  Speaker 3: just a little bit. But the final mandatory mini camp
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  Speaker 3: practice was today. It was reduced by the time. It
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  Speaker 3: was a great crowd out here. By the way, on Wednesday,
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  Speaker 3: fans were invited to come out. Doesn't happen. I don't
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  Speaker 3: ever remember it happened for a mandatory mini Can.
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  Speaker 1: We get a number on that?
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  Speaker 3: By the way, I think capacity I think is right
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  Speaker 3: at too, But it felt like there were a lot
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  Speaker 3: more people.
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  Speaker 1: There's a lot of people standing around too now.
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  Speaker 3: Which was cool to see. Which if you made it
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  Speaker 3: out here, thanks for coming. It was a great day
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  Speaker 3: of practice. Today was shortened a little bit, but the
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  Speaker 3: highlight today logs. You always say you look for Travis
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  Speaker 3: Hunter first thing I look at. You saw him on
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  Speaker 3: both sides of the football today in a single practice
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  Speaker 3: for the first time. Yeah, And I don't know if
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  Speaker 3: this was the only time that it's actually at least
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  Speaker 3: Liam Cohen said on the McAfee show today that it
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  Speaker 3: is the first time he's done both in one practice.
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  Speaker 1: And it was the first time for sure that we
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  Speaker 1: had seen. I wasn't for sure.
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  Speaker 3: So it's good to hear that because you and I
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  Speaker 3: were standing there and we were who are we We're
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  Speaker 3: talking to Joe cow We're talking to Joe Cower and
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  Speaker 3: we're all kind of shooting the breeze, and then all
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  Speaker 3: of a sudden, we look out there and we're like, uh,
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  Speaker 3: wait a minute, you pointed it out right, He said, hey,
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  Speaker 3: By the way, I hate to interrupt the conversation, but
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  Speaker 3: Travis Hunters now wearing a white jersey, because he started
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  Speaker 3: the practice.
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  Speaker 1: Out wearing a teal jersey, which is offensive color.
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  Speaker 3: He was running routes and doing everything on offense and
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  Speaker 3: then he flipped it over to the white jersey today
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  Speaker 3: and so yeah, that's cool.
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  Speaker 1: It was.
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  Speaker 3: It was fun to watch. There was a lot of reps,
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  Speaker 3: more reps today for the twos and threes today than
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  Speaker 3: I think the ones. Yesterday was a day of a
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  Speaker 3: lot of reps for the one. But it was fun
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  Speaker 3: watching twelve on offense and on defense. And you know,
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  Speaker 3: there's a lot of work to be done with his
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  Speaker 3: football team. Travis has got a lot of work to do,
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  Speaker 3: and it's not anywhere near a finished project, and nor
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  Speaker 3: should it look like a finished project at this point.
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  Speaker 3: There's still time and uh, they're going to have to
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  Speaker 3: have a really good training camp. When you've got a
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  Speaker 3: new system, new coaches, new foundation, everything needs to come
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  Speaker 3: together in time, and I can't wait to see it
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  Speaker 3: come together. Another thing I liked to see today was
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  Speaker 3: Brian Thomas Junior back on the practice field after a
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  Speaker 3: little bit of a scare on Winds. Went down on
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  Speaker 3: his shoulder, walked back on the field yesterday, didn't get
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  Speaker 3: back into the work, but then it was back out
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  Speaker 3: there and apparently working full today. That's good. When he
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  Speaker 3: went down, there was kind of this collective gasp. I
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  Speaker 3: guess you could say it practice. And at first when
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  Speaker 3: I saw him down, I was like, oh my gosh,
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  Speaker 3: is that a knee, you know, because that's your first concern.
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  Speaker 3: Is that something you know, crazy happens, non contact or contact,
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  Speaker 3: it related, doesn't matter. And he got up and then
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  Speaker 3: you could tell that he was walking and had his
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  Speaker 3: right arm kind of held tight to his right side,
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  Speaker 3: and you're like, okay, it looks like maybe an arm
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  Speaker 3: or shoulder or something. He comes out, he went inside
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  Speaker 3: for a bit, came out and he's kind of moving
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  Speaker 3: around a little bit. So very encouraging that he was
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  Speaker 3: out there practice today, you know. And if there's a
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  Speaker 3: list of guys as far as don't get hurt on
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  Speaker 3: the Jaguars roster, Trevor number one, yeah, quarterback, right, I mean,
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  Speaker 3: see what happens when that's happened for the most important
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  Speaker 3: position that there is on a foot ball team. Travis
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  Speaker 3: Hunter number two, just because I think Travis represents hope,
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  Speaker 3: represents hope, and change. Brian Thomas because he's a phenomenal
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  Speaker 3: football player. And then you go down to like Josh
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  Speaker 3: and Trayvon. I think is as the next two guys,
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  Speaker 3: just thinking for the perspective of a guy that you
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  Speaker 3: didn't list right there, I know, Wait a minute, I'm
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  Speaker 3: not in the I'm not on his list. I'm not guys,
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  Speaker 3: a kid be injured, wait a minute. You know, I'm kidding.
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  Speaker 3: Everybody else can get her, and I'm just kidding right
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  Speaker 3: right now. And then the other positive of the mini
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  Speaker 3: camp is complete and there were no injuries to speak
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  Speaker 3: of of significance or really anything that I saw myself,
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  Speaker 3: I mean, and that's you know, the goal always of
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  Speaker 3: the off season is to get better number one and
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  Speaker 3: probably one B is to stay healthy. Get any into
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  Speaker 3: training camp as healthy as you possibly can.
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  Speaker 1: So, you know, so I think.
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  Speaker 3: Some objectives will reach and the work again, there's a
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  Speaker 3: lot of work done, but there's still plenty of work
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  Speaker 3: to do with this football team. We'll get to the
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  Speaker 3: Jags defense coming up in just a little bit, and
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  Speaker 3: what you saw this offseason from that group, new scheme,
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  Speaker 3: a lot of new faces in the back end of
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  Speaker 3: that defense. But we continue on tintin xl Amjaguars dot
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  Speaker 3: Com and Jaguars YouTube and Jaguars Happy Hour with the
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  Speaker 3: offense and you know, a lot of focus. You mentioned
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  Speaker 3: the quarterback there, he spoke today. We'll hear from him
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  Speaker 3: coming up in just a little bit. But it's all
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  Speaker 3: about how he handles the offense, how he executes, how
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  Speaker 3: healthy he is. He was wearing a black sleeve on
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  Speaker 3: his throwing arm today he said, just some general swords
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  Speaker 3: and yesterday, Yeah, nothing to really be worried about. But
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  Speaker 3: this is obviously a huge season for him coming up.
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  Speaker 3: He's got the contract and everything moving ahead, but a
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  Speaker 3: new offense, new coaching staff. He's got to start taking
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  Speaker 3: steps forward and you know, the next month or so
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  Speaker 3: to get ready for training camp or for him too well, and.
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  Speaker 1: I think in a big way he needs to take
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  Speaker 1: a step up.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, this is at the point of a quarterback's
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  Speaker 3: career where you expect to see big gains in his game.
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  Speaker 3: The concerning thing to me is that day two of
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  Speaker 3: Mini camp was not very good yesterday. Yeah, I felt
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  Speaker 3: like the defense had a better day on which I'm
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  Speaker 3: okay with the defense having good moments, but I thought
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  Speaker 3: Trevor didn't have a good day. And even Liam Collins
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  Speaker 3: said he had a lot of balls on the ground.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, like, you can't have that in a non
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  Speaker 3: contact practice. It shouldn't happen well. And look, there's a
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  Speaker 3: lot that goes into the performance of the quarterback. The
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  Speaker 3: performance around him also has to be good to allow
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  Speaker 3: him to be good. But his feet have got to
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  Speaker 3: get better in certain situations. There was one throw in
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  Speaker 3: particular in a red zone drill where I mean he
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  Speaker 3: didn't even adjust his feet to make a throw and
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  Speaker 3: the ball sailed on him. I mean, you got to
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  Speaker 3: step into the throws and adjust your feet.
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  Speaker 1: And he knows that.
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  Speaker 3: And that's a huge factor with Liam Cohne's offense, and
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  Speaker 3: he talked extensively about it ways back in the off
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  Speaker 3: season and he realizes it and he's got it to
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  Speaker 3: continue to work at it and continue to improve.
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  Speaker 1: You know, there are.
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  Speaker 3: Certain quarterbacks that can throw at any which way you want,
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  Speaker 3: like Patrick Mahomes.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, his feet aren't perfect all the time.
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  Speaker 3: But he's got that innate ability just to throw it
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  Speaker 3: from different positions in different angles. That's not Trevor. Trevor
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  Speaker 3: I think is a quarterback that Look, he's got to
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  Speaker 3: be disciplined with his feet to get the best result,
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  Speaker 3: you know, And that's just how it is, and he's
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  Speaker 3: got to continue to work at it and he will.
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  Speaker 3: He's got a great work ethic. And also his receivers
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  Speaker 3: need to know where they are need to be as well.
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  Speaker 1: So there's some moments.
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  Speaker 3: There was a little confusion as well yesterday going back
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  Speaker 3: to yesterday to where it looked like they weren't clean
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  Speaker 3: on assignment knowledge, which is you know that happens.
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  Speaker 1: It's a it's a lot of new players on that
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  Speaker 1: side of the ball as well.
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  Speaker 3: You know, we've we've talked about all these receivers and
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  Speaker 3: you know, the running back room and everything. By the way,
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  Speaker 3: just let me jump in right there when you mentioned
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  Speaker 3: the running back room, that may be one of the
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  Speaker 3: most interesting position groups to watch going into training camp.
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  Speaker 3: And then also when we get down to the first
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  Speaker 3: game and what roles are going to be earned and
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  Speaker 3: will it impact the roster, you know, could there be
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  Speaker 3: any changes there because you've got a talented room. Yes
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  Speaker 3: you do. And the reality is is that that room,
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  Speaker 3: once you get past a couple spots, special teams contributions has.
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  Speaker 1: To be a factor. Well, you look at what they
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  Speaker 1: have now.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, you've got two rookies that were drafted, got
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  Speaker 3: Tank Bigsby, Etn. I mean, you got four guys right
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  Speaker 3: there that are really good football players as far as
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  Speaker 3: running backs go. But is there a special team's capability there?
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  Speaker 3: You know, some you might think yay, some you might
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  Speaker 3: think nay. So I think that's going to be a
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  Speaker 3: really And I say that because I think it's a
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  Speaker 3: very talented room, and I think it's going to be
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  Speaker 3: very interesting to watch how the roles are earned out
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  Speaker 3: of that room. Etn's getting about six and a half
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  Speaker 3: this year million in his final year of his rookie contract,
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  Speaker 3: the fifth year option season. Of course, Tank Bigsby in
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  Speaker 3: year number three out of Auburn. But I think the
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  Speaker 3: thing that really stands out about the new guys is
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  Speaker 3: the speed a Schultoton especially has that I mean explosive,
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  Speaker 3: take it to the house speed from anywhere. If he
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  Speaker 3: can hang on to the faseball. Powerful and he's strong
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  Speaker 3: and put the one area that he's got to work
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  Speaker 3: gone ball security. Ball security. I mean, if there was
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  Speaker 3: really the only knock in his game coming out of
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  Speaker 3: Virginia Tech was ball security. I think if there were
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  Speaker 3: no issues with ball security, then he might have been
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  Speaker 3: talked about with the elite running backs that went in
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  Speaker 3: the first round and then soon after. So that's something
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  Speaker 3: that he has to work on. And earlier today, I
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  Speaker 3: was listening to Tom Coughlin on a radio show and
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  Speaker 3: he was talking about how he worked with Tiki Barber
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  Speaker 3: and solving some of those ball security issues with Tiki,
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  Speaker 3: and I think the coaching staff is working very hard
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  Speaker 3: with him as well, and it's something that he has
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  Speaker 3: to embrace and realize. And so you've got two guys
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  Speaker 3: that are in that room, Tank Bigsby. I think it
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  Speaker 3: was about one fumble every thirty carries I think so
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  Speaker 3: far in his career, not fumbles loss, but fumbles, which
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  Speaker 3: that's what matters anyway. So you've got to make sure
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  Speaker 3: that those that area with those two guys is cleaned up.
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  Speaker 3: We've got plenty ahead we'll return and get into the
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  Speaker 3: Jaguars defense over this offseason program, especially the last couple
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  Speaker 3: of days, felt like some positives out of that group. Ohough,
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  Speaker 3: real good, okay.
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  Speaker 1: I thought the defense had an outstanding mini.
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  Speaker 3: Cap I mean really okay, Well we'll dig into that.
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  Speaker 3: To me was the bright spot. There's a lot to
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  Speaker 3: discuss here. Then I'm excited to hear this from you,
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  Speaker 3: all right. That's when we come back on ten XL,
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  Speaker 3: Jaguars dot Com and Jaguars YouTube. This is the final
• 14:41
  Speaker 3: Jaguars Happy Hour of the offseason. Just there, how you
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  Speaker 3: go about his work. You know, he held me out
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  Speaker 3: a lot. Like I said last time, I came up
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  Speaker 3: here and talking. So just been able to take Thames
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  Speaker 3: from him into money game and.
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  Speaker 4: Part for party game is just I'm I can applaud
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  Speaker 4: to my game and make me better.
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  Speaker 3: It's Travis Hunter after Wednesday's practice, when asked about Brian
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  Speaker 3: Thomas Junior and the impact of the Pro Bowl receiver
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  Speaker 3: on him so far in this offseason. Welcome Back Jaguars
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  Speaker 3: Football is presented by Fresh from Florida. It's always in season.
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  Speaker 3: It's Jaguars Happy Hour, JP Shadwick, Jeff Logoman. We're at
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  Speaker 3: the Hyundai Studios the Miller Electric Center for the final
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  Speaker 3: time in the offseason. Program vacation begins in forty two minutes.
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  Speaker 3: We're counting down less than forty two to the dead
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  Speaker 3: zones than minutes. You know, it's not really the dead zone.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, there are still things that could be happening
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  Speaker 3: from a league standpoint, but I was pretty dead though,
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  Speaker 3: come on, compared to the other eleven months of the year,
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  Speaker 3: you know, I mean, look at yeah, it's pretty dead.
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  Speaker 3: But there's still some things that are gonna be interesting
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  Speaker 3: to watch. I mean from a league standpoint. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: what's gonna happen with Jaylem Ramsey for one? You know?
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  Speaker 3: Of uh, are you really that intrigued by that? I
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  Speaker 3: am intrigued by that. I think it's going to be
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  Speaker 3: very interesting because I don't I don't know if there's
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  Speaker 3: going to be anybody out there looking Is he going
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  Speaker 3: to play safety for a guy that's gonna cost you
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  Speaker 3: that much money and they're talking about trading them to trade,
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  Speaker 3: you got to have somebody that's on the other side
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  Speaker 3: that wants to take them, you know. So anyway, I
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  Speaker 3: think it's just very interesting, and there's there's some other
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  Speaker 3: storylines that are going to be kind of an interesting watch.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, what's going on in Cincinnati with Shamar Stewart
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  Speaker 3: the rookie event, and Cincinnati is trying to shove a
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  Speaker 3: clause of the new contract style that nobody in the
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  Speaker 3: league uses down the throat of this rookie first round pick.
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  Speaker 3: It just goes to show you that the Bengals once again, Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: what's the clause, by the way, some type of clause
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  Speaker 3: that you can take away future guarantees based on some
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  Speaker 3: behavior in one year, which has never been instituted in
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  Speaker 3: the National Football League. Does he have a history or something? No,
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  Speaker 3: I mean, that's that's weird. I don't I don't get it.
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  Speaker 3: As far as I know, he doesn't have any history. Okay,
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  Speaker 3: But here's the thing. If you had a problem with
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  Speaker 3: the history, okay, don't try to give him a different contract.
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  Speaker 3: Don't pick them. There's plenty of other players to pick. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: don't pick the guy you know and anyways, to me,
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  Speaker 3: that's interesting.
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  Speaker 1: But again that's typical typical Cincinnati.
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  Speaker 3: That's rare now because since the last CBA and everything,
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  Speaker 3: a couple of cbas go. Now when everything was slotted,
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  Speaker 3: there's no holdouts anymore. Like rookies don't have to hold
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  Speaker 3: out for anything, don't have to do with money.
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: Nowadays, it's it's just language.
• 17:31
  Speaker 3: And it's rarely goes this deep either. No, but I
• 17:35
  Speaker 3: don't think Travis Hunter signed. He has not yet. And
• 17:38
  Speaker 3: there some guys in Schmart stud being one of them, said, look,
• 17:42
  Speaker 3: if I don't have a contract, I'm not going to practice.
• 17:44
  Speaker 3: Which I don't blame any rookie for doing that. I
• 17:47
  Speaker 3: mean that's you know, that's kind of part of their
• 17:51
  Speaker 3: abilities or power. They don't have to practice in a
• 17:55
  Speaker 3: mini camp if they don't have a contract. There are
• 17:58
  Speaker 3: some agents that actually advise their clients not to practice
• 18:02
  Speaker 3: because what happens is something that if a player gets hurt.
• 18:05
  Speaker 3: Now again that kind of goes back to the organization's history.
• 18:09
  Speaker 3: So like if you're with the Bengals, I would be
• 18:12
  Speaker 3: as a rookie less likely to practice without a contract
• 18:15
  Speaker 3: because they may end up trying to give me a
• 18:18
  Speaker 3: lesser contract if I did sustain an injury. Now, the
• 18:21
  Speaker 3: Jaguars have no history of doing that type of behavior,
• 18:26
  Speaker 3: So I would be willing to practice with the Jaguars
• 18:28
  Speaker 3: as a rookie. Remember they when Dante Faller got hurt,
• 18:32
  Speaker 3: If Valor got hurt and rookie Minnie camp had not
• 18:34
  Speaker 3: sign anything yet and gave him exactly So I think
• 18:39
  Speaker 3: history has a lot to do with that. But yeah,
• 18:42
  Speaker 3: it's to me, that's interesting stuff. Jaguars defense, lots of
• 18:47
  Speaker 3: new Anthony Campanelli.
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: The Campanelli or is a Campanile.
• 18:52
  Speaker 3: Yes, I mean that's actually a question that he was asked.
• 18:58
  Speaker 3: He said both.
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: He said, I'm good with the either way.
• 19:02
  Speaker 3: But it's been it's been fun watching him because I
• 19:06
  Speaker 3: can tell that he brings an energy and a bit
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: of a swagger to this Jaguars defense. You know, and
• 19:15
  Speaker 3: if you go back and if you look at Green
• 19:18
  Speaker 3: Bay's defense from last year, my analysis of them was that, look,
• 19:23
  Speaker 3: that's one of the most disciplined defenses that I've watched
• 19:28
  Speaker 3: all year. I remember preparing for the Jaguars Packers game.
• 19:32
  Speaker 3: I was like, look, they're not going to give you
• 19:33
  Speaker 3: any openings. You've better be on you better be on it.
• 19:38
  Speaker 3: And I think that and I hope that that's a
• 19:41
  Speaker 3: trade that's going to carry over with this team because
• 19:43
  Speaker 3: so far in the offseason you can tell that that
• 19:45
  Speaker 3: is a trade. They're where they want to be, where
• 19:48
  Speaker 3: they need to be, whereas last year we know that
• 19:51
  Speaker 3: that was I think the poorst coaching job in Jaguars
• 19:54
  Speaker 3: history on the defensive side of the ball. And there
• 19:58
  Speaker 3: were more mental breakdowns last year, I think, the most
• 20:04
  Speaker 3: in the league, probably by far the worst performance I thought,
• 20:07
  Speaker 3: in Jaguars history. So it's I think it's going to
• 20:11
  Speaker 3: be easier to get better obviously on that side of
• 20:12
  Speaker 3: the ball. But I like the intensity that he brings.
• 20:15
  Speaker 3: I like the assignment, cleanliness, responsibility, knowledge, all of that
• 20:20
  Speaker 3: is cleaned up and is being cleaned up. How many
• 20:24
  Speaker 3: contested balls have you seen in that three day mini
• 20:27
  Speaker 3: camp by defenders over the ball, which means they're where
• 20:32
  Speaker 3: they need to be, And to me that that has
• 20:35
  Speaker 3: been impressive. So look, and I know it's early, you know,
• 20:39
  Speaker 3: they haven't even played a game yet, but I like
• 20:41
  Speaker 3: what I'm seeing out of out of him as a
• 20:44
  Speaker 3: coordinator and what I'm seeing out of his defense, and
• 20:46
  Speaker 3: the messaging trickles down to the players, of course, and
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: you can hear some of that messaging that's likely being
• 20:54
  Speaker 3: presented in defensive meetings during interviews. One of those is
• 20:57
  Speaker 3: Jarry and Jones this week when you asked about Campany's
• 21:01
  Speaker 3: defense and approach, and he said, quote, whooping someone's ass
• 21:06
  Speaker 3: is the main key end quote. It kind of tells
• 21:09
  Speaker 3: you everything you need to know. You can tell that
• 21:11
  Speaker 3: that that comes from the boss man, because he's got
• 21:15
  Speaker 3: that attitude, you know. And I was telling you this
• 21:17
  Speaker 3: a little bit ago, and you know, I'll share it
• 21:20
  Speaker 3: with everybody on the air.
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: You know, I people watch in practice.
• 21:25
  Speaker 3: I mean I watch players, but then I also watch
• 21:27
  Speaker 3: how coaches interact, how coaches interact with players with themselves,
• 21:32
  Speaker 3: and it's fun to watch Anthony Campanile or Campanelli, however
• 21:37
  Speaker 3: you want to say it, interact with the players because
• 21:40
  Speaker 3: when he gets them on an individual basis, when they're
• 21:42
  Speaker 3: in Indy, which Indy folks that we call that individual drill,
• 21:45
  Speaker 3: individual periods who'll work with certain position groups and the
• 21:49
  Speaker 3: intensity is like way high. But that's the moment you
• 21:55
  Speaker 3: can do those kind of things. You can't have this
• 21:58
  Speaker 3: super intense red in the face, you know, spit flying
• 22:02
  Speaker 3: out of your mouth. When you're coordinator, you gotta be calm,
• 22:05
  Speaker 3: you gotta be cool, and you gotta be reasonable. He
• 22:08
  Speaker 3: might be burning up inside with all that's going on,
• 22:11
  Speaker 3: but you have to have that outer shell that is calm,
• 22:15
  Speaker 3: you know, and because that's how you want your defense
• 22:18
  Speaker 3: to play. But when he's an individual period with different
• 22:21
  Speaker 3: position groups, you can see the intensity comes out in
• 22:23
  Speaker 3: him in a big way, and it's almost like he
• 22:26
  Speaker 3: has to do that just to kind of get centered,
• 22:29
  Speaker 3: you know a little bit.
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and then when he's.
• 22:32
  Speaker 3: Working with the defense, it's that calm, cool demeanor and
• 22:35
  Speaker 3: I love it. What we're on at ten to excel
• 22:38
  Speaker 3: Jaguars dot Com, Jaguars YouTube is Jaguars Happy Hour. What
• 22:41
  Speaker 3: is the most intriguing position group that will that you'll
• 22:47
  Speaker 3: watch during training camp? You know, is it a battle
• 22:52
  Speaker 3: for a roster spot, is it a group as a whole?
• 22:55
  Speaker 3: Which one on the defensive side stands out to you
• 22:57
  Speaker 3: the most? Well, I'm always partial to the defensive lineman
• 23:01
  Speaker 3: just because that's kind of was my home for ten
• 23:04
  Speaker 3: years in the league, and so I will watch that
• 23:07
  Speaker 3: group obviously with a little bit more interest. But to me,
• 23:12
  Speaker 3: the safety position is to me the most intriguing one.
• 23:16
  Speaker 3: I mean, if you go down and you look at
• 23:19
  Speaker 3: that position from a roster standpoint. Darnell Savage, Daniel Thomas,
• 23:25
  Speaker 3: Raywan Lane from Navy, Antonio Johnson, Caleb Ransall, draft pick,
• 23:30
  Speaker 3: Eric Murray free agent that was signed Antonio Johnson. I mean,
• 23:37
  Speaker 3: you've got and Winger who is a damn good football
• 23:43
  Speaker 3: player and arguably one of the best special teams players
• 23:47
  Speaker 3: that there is. I think in this league you've got
• 23:52
  Speaker 3: a lot of guys there and you got limited roles.
• 23:56
  Speaker 3: So I think that's going to be one of the
• 23:58
  Speaker 3: most intriguing position group oops, from who's going to start
• 24:04
  Speaker 3: to who's gonna make the roster? I think from both standpoints.
• 24:07
  Speaker 3: Let's think about from the special teams perspective. First, right,
• 24:10
  Speaker 3: you mentioned Wingard, I mean he could be battling for
• 24:13
  Speaker 3: a starting spot on defense.
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: And Daniel Thomas.
• 24:15
  Speaker 3: Daniel Thomas elite special teams players, outstanding, elite special team
• 24:21
  Speaker 3: And they've said the same thing about Raywan Lane the third,
• 24:23
  Speaker 3: the rookie out of Navy, that that was his ability
• 24:26
  Speaker 3: at Navy and maybe it translates in the NFL also,
• 24:30
  Speaker 3: So those are three right there that just okay, those
• 24:33
  Speaker 3: guys are going to have roles on special teams, you
• 24:35
  Speaker 3: would think, well, and then obviously it goes without saying
• 24:39
  Speaker 3: Travis Hunter, his role you know with the secondary is
• 24:43
  Speaker 3: obviously going to be something that's going to be interesting
• 24:45
  Speaker 3: to watch, you know, But I think it's very important
• 24:49
  Speaker 3: to allow him to excel at one position. I think
• 24:54
  Speaker 3: defense is something that he can he can excel at
• 24:56
  Speaker 3: without getting as many reps as he needs. Needs to
• 25:00
  Speaker 3: probably get on offense because offense is so timing and
• 25:03
  Speaker 3: everything else.
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: Related, you know.
• 25:04
  Speaker 3: And look, the reality is that the offense needs to
• 25:07
  Speaker 3: kind of find a groove and find a rhythm, and
• 25:09
  Speaker 3: so I think he needs to spend more time on
• 25:11
  Speaker 3: offense and a little less time on defense. But I
• 25:14
  Speaker 3: mean that safety position to me is gonna be really interesting,
• 25:19
  Speaker 3: and corner for that matter. Yeah, a lot of new
• 25:23
  Speaker 3: faces in the secondary. The one guy I thought that
• 25:26
  Speaker 3: had a really good mini camp, Monterrey Brown, thought he
• 25:29
  Speaker 3: had a really good mini camp. I'm also a big
• 25:32
  Speaker 3: fan of DeAndre Prince. I think he's got great man skills,
• 25:36
  Speaker 3: you know. So, I mean, where are those two gonna
• 25:38
  Speaker 3: be at? Jar Ian Jones? How are all these guys
• 25:40
  Speaker 3: gonna end up developing? And obviously the veteran that they signed,
• 25:43
  Speaker 3: Jordan Jordan Lewis. Lewis is a tremendous player. I was
• 25:46
  Speaker 3: gonna say, I've been impressed just the practices I've been
• 25:49
  Speaker 3: out there. I mean, he's a ninth year player. He
• 25:51
  Speaker 3: has a presence about him. He's got a mouth on him.
• 25:54
  Speaker 3: He's not afraid to chirp and kind of keep everybody.
• 25:57
  Speaker 3: But he's not over the top, right, It's a good Yeah,
• 26:00
  Speaker 3: it seems like that is a good tone certain guys.
• 26:03
  Speaker 3: You want him just to shut up, you know what
• 26:05
  Speaker 3: I mean. You're like, dude, can you just shut up?
• 26:07
  Speaker 3: You're talking too much. I will not present any names,
• 26:10
  Speaker 3: but go ahead, But Jordan Louis is not that. I mean,
• 26:12
  Speaker 3: it's a playful, fun, competitive banter, not an annoying, shut
• 26:19
  Speaker 3: the hell up banter. Yeah. And then Tyson Campbell has
• 26:22
  Speaker 3: had tremendous mini camp and this defense suits him to
• 26:27
  Speaker 3: a t. On Wednesday, there was a play. It was
• 26:30
  Speaker 3: red zone in the end zone closest to the grandstand
• 26:34
  Speaker 3: field too, and there was a jump ball back left
• 26:37
  Speaker 3: corner of the end zone Travis Hunter against Jordan Lewis
• 26:41
  Speaker 3: and it was like a perfect ball. Oh yeah, both
• 26:44
  Speaker 3: had a chance at it. Lewis knocks it, by the way,
• 26:47
  Speaker 3: that's a that's a pass and a play that Travis
• 26:51
  Speaker 3: Hunter dominated in college. That's right, that's right, And Lewis
• 26:55
  Speaker 3: made the play on it. And Hunter will get his
• 26:57
  Speaker 3: at some point and I thought that was to me,
• 27:00
  Speaker 3: that was like the play of the mini camp, like, Okay,
• 27:04
  Speaker 3: this kind of tells you where things are right now,
• 27:07
  Speaker 3: and it went the defense's way at least on that day.
• 27:11
  Speaker 3: And that was during And the cool thing is is
• 27:14
  Speaker 3: that during mini camp there were and you and I
• 27:17
  Speaker 3: kind of m seed the practice yesterday a little bit
• 27:19
  Speaker 3: to give the fans an idea of what was happening
• 27:21
  Speaker 3: during certain periods. And they have certain periods that literally
• 27:26
  Speaker 3: the intensity goes up and the players know it, Okay,
• 27:30
  Speaker 3: this is they're keeping score. Okay, offense can win, defense
• 27:34
  Speaker 3: can win. And there's a odd number of plays in
• 27:38
  Speaker 3: each one of these drills, nine to be exact, and
• 27:42
  Speaker 3: so there's a winner at the end of the drill.
• 27:45
  Speaker 3: Highly competitive, highly competitive, And I love this because it's
• 27:50
  Speaker 3: kind of a message from the coaches to the players
• 27:53
  Speaker 3: that are like, okay, now it's time to turn on
• 27:56
  Speaker 3: that that game mindset, ultimate or competitor mindset. And it
• 28:02
  Speaker 3: was good to see that, and it was it was
• 28:05
  Speaker 3: highly competitive. You know, they did it in red zone,
• 28:07
  Speaker 3: they did it in third down, fourth down, over time.
• 28:11
  Speaker 3: It was cool, much different vibe than the Urban Meyer
• 28:14
  Speaker 3: winners losers practice stuff. Remember all that when they used
• 28:17
  Speaker 3: to Yeah, that was that was a different animal altogether.
• 28:20
  Speaker 3: This is good. It was good team competition. It was
• 28:25
  Speaker 3: and I think what it does it creates the the
• 28:30
  Speaker 3: bonding with with groups. You know, offense, okay, make them
• 28:36
  Speaker 3: bond they're competing as as a group, you know, same
• 28:40
  Speaker 3: thing with the offense. And I got to say the
• 28:42
  Speaker 3: defense won. They certainly did. They did. We're back in
• 28:45
  Speaker 3: a moment and we'll get into what coaches and players
• 28:48
  Speaker 3: should be doing for the next month or might be doing.
• 28:52
  Speaker 3: Whether they should or shouldn't your imagination. I don't know.
• 28:59
  Speaker 3: The one thing that I don't want them doing is
• 29:02
  Speaker 3: getting into any kind of trouble. We'll get into that
• 29:05
  Speaker 3: when we return as well. It's into excel Amjaguars dot com,
• 29:09
  Speaker 3: Jaguars YouTube, this is Jaguars Happy Hour.
• 29:23
  Speaker 5: We're not really trying to emphasize gap schemes too much
• 29:27
  Speaker 5: because that's when those collisions can occur, when you're pulling people, trapping, whamming,
• 29:34
  Speaker 5: pulling two and that's where a lot of those things
• 29:37
  Speaker 5: that occur that you aren't really supposed to occur in
• 29:40
  Speaker 5: this phase, right, So we're trying to stay within the rules,
• 29:43
  Speaker 5: but continue to get better at the zone game.
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: Right. That's obviously a little bit more.
• 29:48
  Speaker 5: Of a safe run in this phase, but also something
• 29:50
  Speaker 5: that we want to be able to do.
• 29:52
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 29:52
  Speaker 5: Everybody runs zone in the NFL game, So I think
• 29:55
  Speaker 5: today was actually some of our better hits on zone
• 29:58
  Speaker 5: that we've had. Had a couple utter ones yesterday. But
• 30:01
  Speaker 5: I think once you get into training camp, the run
• 30:04
  Speaker 5: game will have to diversify a little bit more in
• 30:07
  Speaker 5: terms of, all right, we got the pads on, where
• 30:09
  Speaker 5: are toss cracks now coming out? I'm not gonna go crack.
• 30:12
  Speaker 5: One of our personal our players on our team.
• 30:15
  Speaker 3: Willam Cohen, Jaguars head coach, earlier today discussing the run
• 30:21
  Speaker 3: game practices here in the off season program and how
• 30:24
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• 30:49
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• 30:52
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• 31:19
  Speaker 3: Looking forward to those. All right, so off seasons here,
• 31:23
  Speaker 3: you know, this is this is the day where I
• 31:26
  Speaker 3: mean they shortened practice a little bit probably, I think
• 31:29
  Speaker 3: they had some meetings and things after and then there
• 31:32
  Speaker 3: is a stampede to the parking lot to get in
• 31:35
  Speaker 3: the cars to get out of here for some guys,
• 31:37
  Speaker 3: I mean, and there are some guys that are gonna
• 31:39
  Speaker 3: stay here.
• 31:40
  Speaker 4: You know.
• 31:40
  Speaker 3: The facility will remain open to players, and the staff
• 31:47
  Speaker 3: will I'm sure kind of handle it from you know,
• 31:51
  Speaker 3: because the staff needs a break to you know, we
• 31:54
  Speaker 3: were talking earlier about how the what the players need
• 31:57
  Speaker 3: to do at this point of the season, but the
• 32:00
  Speaker 3: staff has to be able to prepare their mind and
• 32:02
  Speaker 3: their families for the grind that they're getting ready to
• 32:05
  Speaker 3: undertake here pretty soon too, so they need time away
• 32:09
  Speaker 3: as well. So but yeah, I mean there's a lot
• 32:13
  Speaker 3: of guys that I mean that are like doing what
• 32:15
  Speaker 3: you're talking about as soon as this practice was over
• 32:18
  Speaker 3: and they were done and they were rolling to wherever
• 32:21
  Speaker 3: they wanted to go. But I think the rookies are
• 32:23
  Speaker 3: still in town for another two weeks to continue to work,
• 32:29
  Speaker 3: which is good. But at the same token, you know
• 32:33
  Speaker 3: they're going to need some time away too, because you know,
• 32:35
  Speaker 3: the the from the time the rookies football season ends
• 32:42
  Speaker 3: to when they get drafted and everything that leads up
• 32:45
  Speaker 3: to that, and then right after.
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: It's like a whirlwind.
• 32:49
  Speaker 3: And look, you don't even know sometimes what day of
• 32:52
  Speaker 3: the week it is or what month it is, and
• 32:54
  Speaker 3: you know, you haven't trained necessarily for football. You were
• 32:58
  Speaker 3: training for all of these drills that we're going to
• 33:01
  Speaker 3: be evaluated from a clock standpoint. So now you need
• 33:05
  Speaker 3: to make sure that you're training yourself to get ready
• 33:07
  Speaker 3: to play football. And I think part of these next
• 33:10
  Speaker 3: two weeks will be a lot of that for them.
• 33:13
  Speaker 3: There will be Liam Cohen, who we just heard from
• 33:17
  Speaker 3: also on the Pat McAfee show today, said he's going
• 33:20
  Speaker 3: on a big golf trip to Scotland coming up I
• 33:23
  Speaker 3: think next week, So the next couple of weeks coaches
• 33:25
  Speaker 3: will have some time as well, and then once kind
• 33:28
  Speaker 3: of mid July hits, they're all back in the fold again,
• 33:31
  Speaker 3: getting ready for the early arrivals rookies quarterbacks and then
• 33:36
  Speaker 3: training camp in late July. Yeah, I mean, look, the coaches,
• 33:38
  Speaker 3: the coaches grind. I mean, the demands of being an
• 33:43
  Speaker 3: NFL coach from a time standpoint and time spent away
• 33:46
  Speaker 3: from family is huge. And so any chance that did
• 33:51
  Speaker 3: they get to travel and spend time with family and
• 33:55
  Speaker 3: to do a phenomenal trip like that to go play golf,
• 33:58
  Speaker 3: I mean, good for him, because once he comes back,
• 34:02
  Speaker 3: it's going to be all business for the foreseeable future.
• 34:06
  Speaker 3: And then the next break he's gonna get it's gonna
• 34:08
  Speaker 3: be you hope after the super Bowl, right after the parade,
• 34:12
  Speaker 3: right you come on? Yeah, yeah, exactly. That'd be great
• 34:16
  Speaker 3: if you could pick one place to go. JP Shattery, Yes,
• 34:20
  Speaker 3: that's me. Okay, you've got an opportunity. Okay, you've got
• 34:25
  Speaker 3: the resources. You know, you're you're pulling in good money,
• 34:28
  Speaker 3: You're you're coach in the Nationals this must be a
• 34:30
  Speaker 3: fictional account.
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: But yes, okay, where would you go to your mind?
• 34:37
  Speaker 3: Would you go golfing fishing some exotic island with sand
• 34:43
  Speaker 3: and serve? I got a bad risk right now, So
• 34:46
  Speaker 3: golf's out of the golf sasion. Okay, I'm not you know,
• 34:50
  Speaker 3: the beach. We got the beach here, so I'm not
• 34:53
  Speaker 3: necessarily gonna fly two thousand miles to go to the
• 34:55
  Speaker 3: beach when we go to the beach here. I don't
• 34:57
  Speaker 3: really go to the beach here either.
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: That's a good question, but that's the question.
• 35:03
  Speaker 3: Maybe something that's a little cooler than here, Okay, you know,
• 35:07
  Speaker 3: maybe heading to the north somewhere. Maybe, yeah, because it
• 35:10
  Speaker 3: is we're in a swamp logs and it is hotter
• 35:13
  Speaker 3: than hell.
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: Pretty warm, yeah, pretty warm.
• 35:16
  Speaker 3: So maybe something to get out of the heat for
• 35:18
  Speaker 3: a couple of weeks. I don't know. Canada, yeah, Canada,
• 35:22
  Speaker 3: Alaska maybe, I mean, last couple of years, been fortunate
• 35:25
  Speaker 3: enough to go to the British Isles right in the summer,
• 35:28
  Speaker 3: right and it's a totally it's like sixty degrees and
• 35:30
  Speaker 3: raining every day, perfect cool, right, love it. Yeah, So
• 35:34
  Speaker 3: I dig that, But I mean, that's that's kind of.
• 35:36
  Speaker 3: I think the mindset. I mean, take your family, take
• 35:39
  Speaker 3: yourself get away, don't lose the edge that you have
• 35:44
  Speaker 3: gained from a training standpoint, and continue to make sure
• 35:48
  Speaker 3: that you're watching what you're putting in your body, because
• 35:52
  Speaker 3: you don't want to start backpedaling and losing ground that
• 35:55
  Speaker 3: you've gained throughout the off season conditioning and OTAs and
• 35:59
  Speaker 3: everything of that nature. So but you got to you
• 36:02
  Speaker 3: got to be able to give the mind a little
• 36:04
  Speaker 3: bit of a break. Well let's ask just the other way.
• 36:07
  Speaker 3: Let's say you had that same situation. What would be
• 36:11
  Speaker 3: your ideal get away? What did what did you like
• 36:13
  Speaker 3: to do during that month? Well, I think from a
• 36:15
  Speaker 3: player's standpoint, you want to be if you're going to
• 36:17
  Speaker 3: go somewhere, you still want to be able to work
• 36:20
  Speaker 3: out to some extent. So that would be a Seriously,
• 36:24
  Speaker 3: you have to, I mean you can't. You can take
• 36:26
  Speaker 3: three or four days and not train, but you can't
• 36:29
  Speaker 3: go somewhere for two weeks and not have have lifted
• 36:34
  Speaker 3: a weight or done some type of conditioning. So the
• 36:38
  Speaker 3: first thing that you think of is that where can
• 36:40
  Speaker 3: I go that I can still accomplish some of my
• 36:42
  Speaker 3: training goals where can I go to still meet some
• 36:47
  Speaker 3: of my dietary restrictions that I have, right, I mean,
• 36:52
  Speaker 3: so a lot of that factors into it. And there
• 36:54
  Speaker 3: are different places that you can go to that have
• 36:56
  Speaker 3: a lot of those amenities that are built in that.
• 37:00
  Speaker 3: Some places that are cooler, some places that are warmer.
• 37:03
  Speaker 3: But it's got to have those those things that I
• 37:05
  Speaker 3: talk about, the ability to train, the ability to have
• 37:08
  Speaker 3: the facilities to accomplish what you want, and also the
• 37:12
  Speaker 3: ability to watch what you're eating.
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: All those have to be considered.
• 37:15
  Speaker 3: Did you when you played, did you just stick around
• 37:17
  Speaker 3: here and fish for a month? Yeah?
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: I mean who would want to leave this place other
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: than heaven?
• 37:23
  Speaker 3: Right? Yeah, I mean the fishing here in the summertime
• 37:26
  Speaker 3: is just tremendous. At least where I lived at Saint
• 37:29
  Speaker 3: John's Revan was incredible. Sure you know so, I mean yeah,
• 37:32
  Speaker 3: I mean I tried to stay here. And that's the
• 37:34
  Speaker 3: great thing.
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 37:35
  Speaker 3: Back in the early days, they actually closed the old
• 37:39
  Speaker 3: stadium up where we trained at. They closed it up.
• 37:42
  Speaker 3: You didn't even have the option of working out inside.
• 37:45
  Speaker 3: They closed it up for a period of time. But
• 37:50
  Speaker 3: now they keep it open for the players.
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: Which is a good thing.
• 37:54
  Speaker 3: You talked about all the good fishing down at your
• 37:56
  Speaker 3: old place. I mean I went there a couple of times.
• 37:57
  Speaker 3: I didn't catch a damn thing. Well, you're just not
• 37:59
  Speaker 3: very good fishermen. Yeah, sorry, true, yeah, operator reality, it's
• 38:05
  Speaker 3: very true.
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  Speaker 1: But I mean, look.
• 38:07
  Speaker 3: There there there is nothing wrong with a staycation in Jacksonville,
• 38:11
  Speaker 3: I can tell you. But but you know, look, you
• 38:13
  Speaker 3: want to go see family sometimes and uh and then
• 38:17
  Speaker 3: mat me take a take a great trip. Man, reward
• 38:20
  Speaker 3: yourself for the hard work that you've done. It's all good.
• 38:25
  Speaker 3: Let's come back. We'll get our final thoughts in before
• 38:28
  Speaker 3: vacation begins. In about fifteen minutes. This is Jaguars Happy Hour.
• 38:41
  Speaker 3: Some good days.
• 38:42
  Speaker 4: Some days were a little sloppier, and that's just that's
• 38:45
  Speaker 4: part of especially a new system, a lot of new guys.
• 38:48
  Speaker 4: Everyone's playing together kind of for the first time for
• 38:51
  Speaker 4: a lot of us. So overall, I thought it was
• 38:53
  Speaker 4: really good. I thought we learned a lot, took some
• 38:55
  Speaker 4: really big steps of improvement throughout OTAs And you know,
• 38:59
  Speaker 4: I'm proud of the guys how they worked. Everyone you know,
• 39:01
  Speaker 4: worked their tail off all off season, really pushed ourselves,
• 39:04
  Speaker 4: you know, there's a lot of times where this is
• 39:05
  Speaker 4: a period where some people can kind of take it easy,
• 39:07
  Speaker 4: and I felt like every day we really came out here,
• 39:10
  Speaker 4: you know, busted our ass and really were intentional about
• 39:13
  Speaker 4: what we were doing.
• 39:15
  Speaker 3: Trevor Lawrence, Jaguars quarterback with a sweet headband after practice today,
• 39:20
  Speaker 3: meeting with the media. Full availability at Jaguars dot com
• 39:24
  Speaker 3: and Jaguars YouTube. This is Jaguars Happy Hour from the
• 39:28
  Speaker 3: Honday Studios, the Miller Electric Center, JP Shadwick with Jeff Logoman.
• 39:31
  Speaker 3: Final show until July twenty fourth. I get the impression
• 39:35
  Speaker 3: that you're, you know, pointing out the headband because you're
• 39:37
  Speaker 3: jealous of the flowing locks of Trevor Lawrence. You're not wrong,
• 39:43
  Speaker 3: it's been a long time. You should, you should. I
• 39:45
  Speaker 3: didn't do the show with a bandana. Sometimes I need
• 39:49
  Speaker 3: a lot of things. Logs is what I need. I
• 39:51
  Speaker 3: used to have long hair one time. Actually, did you
• 39:53
  Speaker 3: really high school?
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: Did you have a mullet?
• 39:55
  Speaker 3: No? I had like long hair, long hair. It was thick, long,
• 39:58
  Speaker 3: everyone was big.
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah, did you ever have a mullet?
• 40:02
  Speaker 3: I did not do you that. I guess that would
• 40:04
  Speaker 3: be a reverse mullet when it's long at the top,
• 40:09
  Speaker 3: short on the size.
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: Is that what you had? One of those reverse mullets.
• 40:12
  Speaker 3: No, you had a mullet, top had a kick. Yeah,
• 40:18
  Speaker 3: I had a strong mullet. Business in the front, party
• 40:20
  Speaker 3: in the back had a strong mullet. Somebody told me
• 40:26
  Speaker 3: one time, there's a photo of you somewhere walking out
• 40:28
  Speaker 3: shirtless pregame in New York. We had the big ponytail
• 40:32
  Speaker 3: hanging down like pregame warm ups. Did you used to
• 40:36
  Speaker 3: do that? I don't know.
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: I may have. I don't know, as might have. There's
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: one guy in his building that always claims that.
• 40:45
  Speaker 3: That happened, and we know who that is. Perk would
• 40:50
  Speaker 3: be one of his nicknames. Yeah, yeah, I don't know
• 40:53
  Speaker 3: if there's any validity to what he's saying, but I
• 40:57
  Speaker 3: can say I believe him. You never know, Jack. I
• 41:00
  Speaker 3: was happy I were presented by dream Finders Homes Official
• 41:02
  Speaker 3: home of the Jacksonville Official home builder of the Jacksonville Jaguars. English.
• 41:08
  Speaker 3: Let me try it sometime.
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: It's good for you.
• 41:11
  Speaker 3: It is. This is the final show before the dead zone.
• 41:15
  Speaker 3: You want to cut the roster now or like you
• 41:16
  Speaker 3: want to wait till training can Here's the deal, Mini
• 41:22
  Speaker 3: Camp is a great time to evaluate some things because
• 41:27
  Speaker 3: there's no pads. I a lot of stars out there
• 41:31
  Speaker 3: right now, and I've learned I've learned, okay over the
• 41:35
  Speaker 3: last thirty six years, okay, of being around the NFL
• 41:42
  Speaker 3: that don't get overly excited about anything from mini camp
• 41:46
  Speaker 3: or the OTAs or anything of that nature. Even in
• 41:50
  Speaker 3: training camp. You know, just just slow down because the
• 41:54
  Speaker 3: pads have to come on. And then there are different
• 41:57
  Speaker 3: levels of achievement of achievement for players. I mean, there's
• 42:01
  Speaker 3: certain guys that you know that they shine through everything OTAs,
• 42:05
  Speaker 3: mini camp, training camp, and then the games when the
• 42:08
  Speaker 3: lights come on, they continue to elevate their game, and
• 42:14
  Speaker 3: there are some that just fall by the wayside because
• 42:19
  Speaker 3: they're not consistent enough, or they're not physical enough, or
• 42:24
  Speaker 3: they're not mentally tough enough. I mean, it's to me,
• 42:28
  Speaker 3: it's the hardest game to play in all of professional sports,
• 42:33
  Speaker 3: because it is it is demanding from a physical standpoint,
• 42:37
  Speaker 3: but most importantly, it's incredibly demanding from a mental standpoint.
• 42:42
  Speaker 3: You have to be mentally tough to play this game,
• 42:46
  Speaker 3: and some guys just can't do it, you know, And
• 42:49
  Speaker 3: some guys will have moments, but the consistency. The great
• 42:52
  Speaker 3: ones have a consistency about them, and then shine through
• 42:56
  Speaker 3: all of that. And so you want to see the
• 42:59
  Speaker 3: whole book, you know, before you start to jump to
• 43:03
  Speaker 3: conclusions a little bit, you know, after a couple chapters.
• 43:08
  Speaker 3: So and especially we haven't seen the big guys hit
• 43:11
  Speaker 3: each other. Ayah, nothing, you know. I mean, like, for example,
• 43:16
  Speaker 3: I'll give you a perfect example. Uh ninety one look
• 43:19
  Speaker 3: unblockable in this mini camp. Okay, okay, Eric, I mean
• 43:26
  Speaker 3: that's great, I'm excited about it. It's cool. But again, okay,
• 43:30
  Speaker 3: let's let's get to the regular season. And Tom Harrison
• 43:36
  Speaker 3: didn't look great at moments, but it's the off season OTAs, Okay,
• 43:41
  Speaker 3: what's he gonna do once we get to camp when
• 43:43
  Speaker 3: it starts to become real. You know. So there are
• 43:47
  Speaker 3: things that you think, but things that you just don't
• 43:51
  Speaker 3: know yet at this time of the year. And then
• 43:54
  Speaker 3: Liam Cohen has talked about that a little while ago.
• 43:56
  Speaker 3: We heard from it. Especially in the run game. You
• 43:57
  Speaker 3: can't run certain ideas is because it's a non contact
• 44:01
  Speaker 3: time of year. You can't even do that well. And
• 44:04
  Speaker 3: you'll start doing it in training camp. Well, and look,
• 44:07
  Speaker 3: you have a set of rules that you've got to
• 44:08
  Speaker 3: go buying from the coaches standpoint, and if you don't
• 44:12
  Speaker 3: follow those rules, then you end up getting fined heavily
• 44:17
  Speaker 3: and also losing maybe some other aspect of your training
• 44:22
  Speaker 3: ability in the future for violating rules that are set
• 44:26
  Speaker 3: out in the collective bargaining agreement. So yeah, so I'm
• 44:30
  Speaker 3: gonna be looking forward very much to training camp because
• 44:33
  Speaker 3: that's when you start to know about a lot of
• 44:36
  Speaker 3: guys like we have. We think, for example, the offensive
• 44:39
  Speaker 3: line is going to be much more competitive.
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: They've brought guys in in free agency.
• 44:44
  Speaker 3: They've got a couple of them undrafted, one of them drafted.
• 44:48
  Speaker 3: We think it's gonna be better. Well, we've got to
• 44:51
  Speaker 3: wait and see, you know, until the pads come on.
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: What do you have?
• 44:55
  Speaker 3: Fred Johnson's a giant human being? Is giant human being? Sure,
• 45:00
  Speaker 3: But you know what, a giant human being can't really
• 45:04
  Speaker 3: impose his giantness opponent.
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: I'm making it a word.
• 45:09
  Speaker 3: Giant can't do that against an opponent at this point
• 45:13
  Speaker 3: of their juncture of the off season. Let's see, by
• 45:16
  Speaker 3: the way I talked with him the other day, he's
• 45:18
  Speaker 3: listed at six seven three twenty six. I don't think
• 45:21
  Speaker 3: he's sixty seven. I think he's I think he's six'. Eight,
• 45:25
  Speaker 3: Really i'm just telling YOU. JP i went up to
• 45:28
  Speaker 3: introduce myself to him and talked with him for five
• 45:31
  Speaker 3: or ten minutes and was asking him, about you, know
• 45:33
  Speaker 3: the natural position that he likes and how many starts
• 45:36
  Speaker 3: he's had at each each. Spot And i'm just sitting
• 45:39
  Speaker 3: there and the person that came to mind because the
• 45:43
  Speaker 3: only player THAT i ever went against in THE nfl
• 45:46
  Speaker 3: to WHERE i was in awe of how.
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: Big he, was With Jonathan.
• 45:51
  Speaker 3: Ogdenden i'll never, forget never forget the first TIME i
• 45:57
  Speaker 3: ever played against against john AND i was just, like oh.
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: My, god.
• 46:05
  Speaker 3: This guy is. Legit he's a giant human. Being Fred
• 46:10
  Speaker 3: johnson's that's he's in the same. Category he's the. Second
• 46:13
  Speaker 3: he's the second guy That i've ever been around that
• 46:17
  Speaker 3: is just an absolute and the guy For philadelphia is
• 46:21
  Speaker 3: in the same. Category the left tackle My, Lotta Jordan,
• 46:25
  Speaker 3: mylatta who is the biggest human being of them, all
• 46:29
  Speaker 3: and standing around him is, like oh my, God Fred,
• 46:33
  Speaker 3: Johnson Jordan, mylotta and then of Course Jonathan, ogden three
• 46:37
  Speaker 3: biggest human beings That i've ever been around in. Football
• 46:40
  Speaker 3: my first one of my first years, here we played
• 46:43
  Speaker 3: The patriots And Vince wilfork was one of Those for,
• 46:46
  Speaker 3: ME i was, like oh, boy this is different, Now
• 46:50
  Speaker 3: he's just why really, massive really human. Being Sarah goose
• 46:55
  Speaker 3: a kind of in the same. Category and then the
• 46:57
  Speaker 3: nose tackle that played Alongside.
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: Sarah goose uh, Oh Raw Donald, blank really good football player.
• 47:06
  Speaker 3: Who was the one in the nineties for The packers
• 47:08
  Speaker 3: who was the nose Tackle gilbert H that guy was Not.
• 47:13
  Speaker 3: Tony gilbert was. HUGE i can't remember his first, name But,
• 47:16
  Speaker 3: gilbert and he was he. Was all you would do
• 47:19
  Speaker 3: is just that and stand. There it's all he had to.
• 47:20
  Speaker 4: Do that's.
• 47:21
  Speaker 3: It he was a space eater and that you weren't
• 47:24
  Speaker 3: running anywhere with his outstretched arms that he had that.
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: COVERED i got this right. Here you just forget Like Sean, Gilbert, sean.
• 47:33
  Speaker 3: That sounds, close but it's, Funny like you know on
• 47:37
  Speaker 3: television the players running, around but if you have the
• 47:41
  Speaker 3: opportunity to get close to them or on the sideline or,
• 47:44
  Speaker 3: whatever it's, like all these guys are. Different was. It
• 47:47
  Speaker 3: Sam adams who was next To Sarah goosen might have.
• 47:49
  Speaker 3: BEEN i think it was another just giant human being.
• 47:53
  Speaker 3: Man but for, Real Fred johnson is just a.
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: GIANT i think he's.
• 47:58
  Speaker 3: Got he's got a, shot, Right so player out Of,
• 48:00
  Speaker 3: florida look watching he isn't you. Know he doesn't have
• 48:03
  Speaker 3: a whole lot of career starts. Now and but when
• 48:07
  Speaker 3: he started For philadelphia and he started at different positions for,
• 48:10
  Speaker 3: them he did a really good, job you. Know and That's,
• 48:13
  Speaker 3: look that's a really good offensive. Line and they have
• 48:16
  Speaker 3: a standard that they, set you, know so when you
• 48:21
  Speaker 3: join that, rank, okay it's understood we're, here you. Know
• 48:28
  Speaker 3: so if you're, playing you need to be here at
• 48:30
  Speaker 3: this level with. Us and so when you have a
• 48:33
  Speaker 3: room and a group like, that they demand that you
• 48:37
  Speaker 3: play to their. Level and that's one of the best
• 48:40
  Speaker 3: offensive line coaches, too exists In. Philadelphia and if you
• 48:45
  Speaker 3: if you can develop that mindset, here that would be,
• 48:47
  Speaker 3: outstanding would Be.
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: That's the.
• 48:51
  Speaker 3: GOAL i, mean, look that's the. Goal he's still going
• 48:53
  Speaker 3: to answer a lot of questions in training. Camp you
• 48:55
  Speaker 3: know who's going to be out there. First, well then
• 48:57
  Speaker 3: that's it's. Competitive it's going to be very competitive along
• 49:00
  Speaker 3: the offensive line this. Year and AND i think there's
• 49:05
  Speaker 3: also going to be some interesting where interesting from the
• 49:10
  Speaker 3: standpoint of where are guys going to find a? Home
• 49:14
  Speaker 3: you know it from you Because patrick, McCary for, example you,
• 49:18
  Speaker 3: know is he going to be right? Guard could he
• 49:20
  Speaker 3: play left right? Tackle you, know you had a couple
• 49:24
  Speaker 3: of guys moving in and out of, there you. Know
• 49:27
  Speaker 3: SO i think it's going to be an interesting. Watch
• 49:29
  Speaker 3: they got to be, better, THOUGH i can tell you,
• 49:30
  Speaker 3: that and they got to learn how to run the.
• 49:33
  Speaker 4: Ball.
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: Man the last couple of years with.
• 49:35
  Speaker 3: This, OFFENSE i think that was one of the biggest
• 49:39
  Speaker 3: downfalls to this offense In jacksonville was the lack the
• 49:45
  Speaker 3: lack of ability to run the ball when he needed
• 49:49
  Speaker 3: to run, it and short yardage was like right at
• 49:51
  Speaker 3: the top of for perfect examples to what they couldn't.
• 49:54
  Speaker 3: DO i, mean the last two, years the third, down
• 49:58
  Speaker 3: third and short running game was. Terrible it's. Awful it
• 50:01
  Speaker 3: was like it felt like third and five all the.
• 50:03
  Speaker 3: Time AND i think the mindset was that the run
• 50:08
  Speaker 3: was kind of an. Afterthought it's gotta, change all, Right,
• 50:13
  Speaker 3: logs great off, Season enjoy your few weeks. Away we'll
• 50:17
  Speaker 3: talk to you in training. Camp Happy Early Father's.
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: Day thank, You thank, you and tell your popsh happy.
• 50:23
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• 50:26
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• 50:29
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• 50:33
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