Latest / The Art of Costume Podcast / Only Lovers Left Alive
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- 0:05Hello and welcome to the Art of Costume.
- 0:07I'm Elizabeth Julie Glass. And I'm a depressed artist from
- 0:11the 1600s. Spencer Williams.
- 0:14I think he was older than that, yeah.
- 0:17They were old as hell. I everybody This week we watched
- 0:21Only Lovers Left Alive. Wow.
- 0:25Whoa. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
- 0:27Whoa, like I'm not even going to ask you how you are, Spencer,
- 0:30because I'm like, I just need to get into this.
- 0:33Well, it's funny, like every First of all, Vampire month has
- 0:36been absolutely wild and every vampire has been incredibly hot.
- 0:41And this film lived up. To.
- 0:44Yeah, no exception. It's funny, though.
- 0:46It's like every episode. Not every episode, but most of
- 0:49our episodes. You know, one of us.
- 0:51There's no scientific method to when we pick certain films, you
- 0:57know, like we like to get into our themes.
- 0:59Yeah, but we're never like, oh, like this one got really good
- 1:03ratings or this one like we're just like we kind of pick
- 1:06whatever. And sometimes we're.
- 1:07Living off fives at this point. We're living off fives that are
- 1:10the costume podcasts. And sometimes I'll pitch
- 1:13something to Elizabeth and she'll be like, and sometimes
- 1:17she'll pitch something to me and I'll like, this is a film where
- 1:20we both were like, I don't know. Like I know nothing about this
- 1:25movie. I don't remember it coming out.
- 1:28I knew nothing about it when Elizabeth told it to me.
- 1:31I had no idea it existed. This.
- 1:34Even going into the research, this movie's way older than I
- 1:37thought it was originally. This movie is 12 years old.
- 1:41It's older than Crimson Peak. I thought this I didn't realize
- 1:44it predated Crimson Peak. Which is wild.
- 1:46It's 2013, yeah, but boy was it fun.
- 1:50Oh man, it, it was fun. I, I texted Spencer.
- 1:56I was like, I just watched Only Lawyers left alive.
- 1:58I was like, it was wild, but I kind of liked it and.
- 2:02I think my response was like, yeah, me too.
- 2:06And so I was at work today. And then they were like, oh,
- 2:09like, how was your night? And I was like, oh, like I
- 2:11watched this movie. And they were like, oh, like,
- 2:14what's that? And I was like, I was like, do
- 2:19you know, have you seen like what we do in the shadows?
- 2:23And unfortunately, this person had not.
- 2:28But I'm like what we do Only lovers Left alive I feel like is
- 2:35like a hidden camera version of what we do in the shadows.
- 2:39Yeah, but not a comedy. It's.
- 2:40Just not a comedy. It had like some dramedy vibes
- 2:44to it. Yeah.
- 2:46Just cause like, it's kind of a little bit ridiculous,
- 2:49especially with all of their sunglasses.
- 2:53Their sunglasses, which I'm very excited to wear these sunglasses
- 2:57for the rest of the episode. Me too.
- 3:00I was even more excited once I saw a picture of Jim Jarmusch.
- 3:08I have not seen many of his films.
- 3:11I do think only Lovers Left alive though.
- 3:14Might be his like spirit animal. His biopic, Yeah.
- 3:18Director Jim Jarmusch is such an interesting, cool guy.
- 3:22I mean, he's an American filmmaker and has just always
- 3:26been a major proponent of independent cinema since dating
- 3:29back to the 1980s, Potentially a vampire himself and is of course
- 3:34a musician. He also, for those of you that
- 3:38maybe don't know who he is, he does have a cameo on What We Do
- 3:41in the Shadows as well with Sofia Coppola, if you watch that
- 3:44episode at the at Club Najas. So.
- 3:48Yeah, wait, really? Yeah, it's a it's a good
- 3:51episode. You won't know him.
- 3:54Go back and watch it. Yeah, you'll know him for his
- 3:56work on Stranger Than Paradise, Broken Flowers, Patterson and
- 4:01The Dead Don't Die, which is a more recent film.
- 4:04So how about give a summary of Only Lovers Left to Life?
- 4:08Go for it, Spencer. Artistic, sophisticated and
- 4:13centuries old, 2 vampire lovers pondered their ultimate place in
- 4:17modern society. However, the romance and the
- 4:20pressive episode is disrupted by the rival of an uncontrollable
- 4:26younger sister and that is Only Lovers Left Alive.
- 4:29But honestly, I feel like that summary is a bit generous
- 4:33because to me, if I were to summarize this plot, I would say
- 4:36it's just two people being vampires, being depressed and
- 4:40just hang out on the couch and listen to records for two hours.
- 4:44Literally. Honestly, yeah, like the this
- 4:48was almost like the Stardew Valley concert of movies, 'cause
- 4:53there were some points where I was just like zoned out
- 4:57listening to the music. It plays like a YouTube ambiance
- 5:02video where it's just too hot. People just in their druggy
- 5:07looking apartment in their robes, drinking blood and just
- 5:11being like, I don't remember William Shakespeare.
- 5:15Yeah, I was like, I'm I'm obsessed with this movie and.
- 5:20Like the aesthetic is so perfect.
- 5:23Let's meet our costume designer Bina Daggler.
- 5:29You will know her work from Narco Season 1, The Limits of
- 5:32Control, which she also did with Jim Jarmusch.
- 5:37Dumplin misses America, Euphoria and Tar, for which you
- 5:42interviewed her Spencer. Yes, I love the movie Tar with
- 5:47Cate Blanchett, that is one of my favourites.
- 5:49Honestly, I loved it. And we do have a older podcast
- 5:53episode with Bina Dagler who I absolutely adore.
- 5:56And I did not realize that Bina had did this film until we
- 6:00started putting a research together.
- 6:01So I feel kind of dumb because, Bina, I definitely would have
- 6:04reached out to you if I knew. Yeah, but still, we get to talk
- 6:08about it, and I'm very happy for that.
- 6:10So let's take a little break. Have a little tiny, very, very
- 6:15tiny vampire glass of blood, and we're going to get into these
- 6:20very fun depressive vampire costumes.
- 6:26Yes, this is a lot different than The Lost Boys.
- 6:29Oh yeah, total opposite. Hi, I'm Dan who does all the
- 6:38magic behind the scenes. I wanted to say thank you.
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- 7:40Now back to the show all. Right, Elizabeth I ready to put
- 7:49on a record and talk about some costumes and talk about life and
- 7:55our cool guitars. Oh, you know it.
- 7:59You know it. And unfortunately, this this was
- 8:04like a little bit more of an indie film, despite the fact
- 8:08that, like, every single character is played by someone
- 8:11very famous. Yeah.
- 8:14I mean, actually, I think every character is by a pretty
- 8:17phenomenal actor. Yeah, the only, honestly, the
- 8:21only actor I didn't recognize right away was the guy who's
- 8:24like his guitar dealer. But so this was like a smaller
- 8:30independent film. I I think this like came up in
- 8:35my like Pinterest feed a couple years ago when I was doing all
- 8:39the all the Crimson Peak research.
- 8:42Yeah, that's fair. Because we've got Tom
- 8:46Hiddleston. I was shocked.
- 8:48I did not know about this sooner, but I was so thankful to
- 8:53find that The Cut did an interview with Bina when the
- 8:58film was released. So everything we're talking
- 9:02about today comes from The Cut. Go look it up if you if you're
- 9:05interested in this movie. It's a really good read when it
- 9:08came to the look of this film, which was very specific, Fina
- 9:16said. I think he, Jim, was looking for
- 9:19something without a specific period with very simple and
- 9:25clean lines. At this moment, the vampires
- 9:30don't really care about clothes, you know, They lived through
- 9:35that and all the other periods. So they wear something very
- 9:39simple but protective. On the other side, of course,
- 9:44they are like animals. They have their second skin with
- 9:48their clothes. And that was a little bit my
- 9:51idea, that it's like the second skin they got during so many
- 9:57years of living. They'd already lived all the
- 10:01fantasies, they could live, so it could be something very, very
- 10:06simple. Which is wild, So wild.
- 10:11And I feel like kind of what makes Only Lovers Left Alive
- 10:17unique among vampire films is that in their wardrobe, they're
- 10:23not really carrying around pieces of their past.
- 10:28It's very much who they are in this moment in their lives.
- 10:33I think that really that quote Venus summarized really the
- 10:37essence of this film. I mean, it is two people that
- 10:40have literally, I mean, every film that we talk about in the
- 10:44vampire month has been people at the beginning of their vampiric,
- 10:48vampiric existence. You know, what are we going to
- 10:50do the many years interview with the vampire?
- 10:53It's like it starts and you know at this point and it goes all
- 10:56the way up to like modern society and Dubai.
- 10:59These are two people that have done it.
- 11:00They've done it all. They know all the cool people,
- 11:03they've worn all the cool costumes.
- 11:05They're over there. I mean their.
- 11:07Names are literally Adam and Eve.
- 11:10I'm like were you the first vampires?
- 11:13Like what? Yeah, they're, they're wearing
- 11:15their robes, their fabrics, and they're just like, they don't
- 11:19care. It's like they've lived it all.
- 11:21They've had the cool costumes and they're just so uninspired
- 11:26by the society that's around them at this moment.
- 11:28So there is no desire within them to try to meet the moment
- 11:34because they already they, they've, they look at where
- 11:37they've come from and they see where they are now.
- 11:39There's nothing inspiring about the world around them to make
- 11:42them want to dress up. And I think that's essentially
- 11:44the crux of the entire film. And it's so dark, but just so
- 11:49relatable to in so many ways. Adam, played by Tom Hiddleston,
- 11:55living out in the middle of nowhere, just like just outside
- 12:00Detroit. Like, come on.
- 12:04Like, it's incredible. And to achieve this look, all of
- 12:12Adam and Eve's costumes were custom made of natural fibers
- 12:17because Bina wanted to show that they're not modern, but also not
- 12:22ancient, she said. It's just something I had to
- 12:27make because I wanted to have this simple, very specific look
- 12:31of the leather jackets and pants, which I didn't realize.
- 12:37I think it's Tom Hiddleston's pants are leather, but it's just
- 12:41it's such a like whoever made these like I would love to know
- 12:47cuz the pants look so worn in. I thought they were jeans at 1st
- 12:53and then like you look a little more closely and it's like no,
- 12:56that's leather. She also, when you look at like
- 13:00Adam and Eve, they're clearly, you know, Eve very much is still
- 13:06happy with being alive. Adam, not so much.
- 13:11Not at all. Not at all, and Fina wanted to
- 13:15create a feeling of yin and Yang between the two of them.
- 13:20Which I love too, that really you're talking about how, you
- 13:24know, Adam kind of has like that weathered down look in his
- 13:28pants. I just think he looks weathered
- 13:29down in general. I mean, this is a person who's
- 13:32gone through it literally for centuries and centuries compared
- 13:35to Eve, who while, you know, she does feel feel a little beating
- 13:40down at times, she definitely still knows how to put herself
- 13:44together when she goes out and, you know, get her little tiny
- 13:47cups of vampire blood. I also love what you said about
- 13:52how they custom made a lot of their stuff too, because, yeah,
- 13:55they could not have been, you know, they weren't going to be
- 13:58walking around in large vampiric ruffs either, but they weren't
- 14:01going to be wearing like, you know, Levi's and a shirt from
- 14:05Abercrombie. You know, like, it had to be
- 14:08very, very specific where it's just, it's not pinpointed to any
- 14:13period. But it's also like, you can't
- 14:16get this anywhere either, though.
- 14:18They're just like right in between these two fields of
- 14:21existence. One thing I love about Eve is
- 14:24she knows how to be comfy. She knows how to be comfy,
- 14:30especially when I forget where she's living abroad.
- 14:34Oh yeah, abroad, it's somewhere, somewhere incredible.
- 14:39Yeah, she is like living her best life.
- 14:42I don't like, honestly, this looks like a great life, just
- 14:45listening to music and reading your books, like, OK.
- 14:49And Bina said of working with Tilda, It is a pleasure.
- 14:53It really is a pleasure because she is so, so inspiring and her
- 14:59nature is already so glamorous in a good way.
- 15:03She is like a fantasy bird already, naturally.
- 15:07And I'm like, I don't know if anybody has ever described Tilda
- 15:10Swinton so perfectly. Yeah, and also there I say my
- 15:15letterbox review. I was like, this is essentially
- 15:17to me the Tilda Swinton biopic and I'm not going to hear
- 15:20anything else on the matter because Tilda Swinton is not
- 15:24beating the vampire rumours and this film didn't do anything to
- 15:28help. No, I was one of the reasons why
- 15:31I was so excited to see this film too was because till the
- 15:34Swinton has that cameo and what we do in the shadows also in
- 15:37that first season as like the leader of the vampire council.
- 15:41And I feel like Eve would do that, honestly, because she's
- 15:45just totally up for it. Yeah, she'd be like, Adam was
- 15:49having one of his depressive episodes.
- 15:51I need to go do something. Yeah, I'm going to go to the
- 15:54vampiric PTA. Yeah, yeah.
- 15:57Oh my gosh, isn't she the one who asked for Rob is too?
- 16:00Yeah, yeah, she's the one that runs the whole thing.
- 16:02It's so good. I remember watching that and
- 16:06thinking like why is like Tilda Swinton's great but like she
- 16:08never played a vampire. I always thought Tilda Swinton
- 16:11was playing herself honestly, because I think Tilda Swinton's
- 16:15a vampire. But anyway.
- 16:16But it was a reference to this. Yes, but like you said,
- 16:21glamorous leisure. Like she just knows how to lay
- 16:25in bed like a beautiful portrait.
- 16:27Absolutely. However, at the beginning there
- 16:31was a little bit of contention about where they should go with
- 16:37Eve's character, Bina said. Jim wanted to have something
- 16:43very, very simple, and Tilda was looking for something perhaps a
- 16:47little bit more playful. They eventually settled on
- 16:52simple because of that timeless feeling they wanted to have that
- 16:57we talked about earlier. But I do feel like Tilda what a
- 17:01little bit in the beginning with those just beautiful like
- 17:07Chinese and like East Asian inspired robes like Oh my gosh.
- 17:14Oh yeah. Gorgeous.
- 17:16I get it if I'm till this went in your book.
- 17:18You mean to play a vampire? My first vampire film, of
- 17:22course, like the film you want to put me and you want me to
- 17:25wear pajamas. I would have thrilled.
- 17:27A bit of fit, too. Like, no, we're not doing.
- 17:30You could put me at PJS, but they're going to be nice PJS.
- 17:33They're going to be fancy. They're going to be so fancy.
- 17:37But then even because she's clearly living like this, very
- 17:41like luxurious, kind of like bohemian lifestyle abroad.
- 17:46But when she comes back to the States to be with, Adam actually
- 17:52moves into these, like, very comfy, like European robes,
- 17:59which I love, especially like that very, like, heavy, like
- 18:03brownish Gray one with, like, the velvet lapel and cuffs.
- 18:09Yeah, like with her hair up like that.
- 18:12Incredible. Yeah, I mean, she just really
- 18:15kind of like rains it in a little.
- 18:18She does. It's almost like she wants to
- 18:19blend in a little bit. She knows that.
- 18:20She first of all, she doesn't seem to pack a lot every time.
- 18:24She's just like, you know, whatever.
- 18:25I'll get new belongings. Yeah, and she's like, OK, I'm
- 18:29going to America where things are even more tasteless, you
- 18:33know, so I could just wear this, like, robe that's grey.
- 18:36Whatever and she's just like shaking up with her hubby just
- 18:40like hanging out like she doesn't need to impress him
- 18:45they're. Obsessed with each other, which
- 18:46I love too. I know I love that that line
- 18:49never changes. So like all the centuries later,
- 18:52I'm with my man, I'm with my wife, and that's not changing.
- 18:55I love when she picks up the picture of their 3rd wedding.
- 18:59I'm like these two just I like even when she comes and Tom
- 19:03Hilson's like OK I can't. I guess I can't be as depressed
- 19:06as I was. Yeah, he he gets it together and
- 19:09honestly, new couple goals is Only lovers Left alive.
- 19:13Yeah, One thing, I don't know if you caught this, because they
- 19:17really do not care about their appearances anymore.
- 19:20No, this is like really reflected in their hair.
- 19:23Yeah, I don't think any of them brush their hair except.
- 19:29Except right before she sees Adam again, she clearly brushes
- 19:37her hair. It's like it looks very nice and
- 19:39it's straight and it's like it throughout the rest of the film.
- 19:42They all have this very like clearly have not washed it in
- 19:47days like frizzy look to their hair.
- 19:49Oh, very shaggy, the wigs in this film.
- 19:52Oh yeah, but right as she's seeing Adam for the first time
- 19:56and who knows how long, she brushes her hair 'cause she's
- 20:00like, I'm going to look just a little bit better.
- 20:03Right for. My man, she's.
- 20:04Like that's the least I could do.
- 20:05I haven't seen him in 50 years. I'm going to put a comb through
- 20:08my hair, which is not something. Never be bothered though.
- 20:12Adam would never comb his hair. I got to say I loved Tom
- 20:17Hiddleston in this film. I I've never seen what I want to
- 20:23be as a vampire so much so than watching Adam in this film.
- 20:28Honestly, I was like, this is Spencer to a tee.
- 20:32After like a couple Millennium as a vampire, this would be you
- 20:37and I'd be coming over like, hey, bestie, what's up?
- 20:40Like what are what are you depressed about?
- 20:42Yeah, you'd be like, you haven't answered your phone in 300
- 20:44years. And I'd be like, yeah, I've been
- 20:46watching TV. Yeah, and like building some
- 20:49extraordinary power source. We never came back to that or
- 20:53the mushrooms. Yeah, literally.
- 20:56Adam is just All he lives for is just collecting guitars and
- 21:02listening to music and. Making music that no one can
- 21:05know is his. Also he has like his weird plug
- 21:08friend that loves to bring him guitars, which not OK when the
- 21:13sister kills him because he's like that was that was my one
- 21:16guy, you know? Yeah, he's a human, but like
- 21:20everything else bores me. He calls humans zombies in this,
- 21:24which I just think is fantastic. It's amazing and I love when
- 21:29he's like, couldn't she at least have brought him over like.
- 21:33Yeah, make him a vampire at least.
- 21:36Like. Just she just straight up kills
- 21:38him. But let's talk about Adam's
- 21:40costumes 'cause they they're my favorite, honestly.
- 21:43And the director, Jim himself was very much the inspiration
- 21:49behind Adam. And Venus has this whole film is
- 21:53just very him, which I don't really know much about him but I
- 21:57believe it. I also believe Adam stopped
- 22:01buying clothes in the 70s. Oh yeah, I think so too.
- 22:04Which to him feels like a couple weeks ago.
- 22:07Yeah, yeah. And I love like, because for
- 22:10him, you know, with with Eve, it's a lot of yellows and
- 22:18whites. And then when and when she comes
- 22:21to America, she adds red to that white, very bright, very light
- 22:27Adam, lots of black and lots of like burgundy, that deep, deep
- 22:34red. Like they're both like paying
- 22:37homage to blood in their clothing because they almost
- 22:41like Revere blood in this film. I thought it was very
- 22:45interesting. When they're drinking it, it's
- 22:48almost like they're taking communion or like doing like
- 22:51something they consider holy when drinking the blood.
- 22:55It's sacred and they clearly need it like a drug almost in
- 22:59this in this film compared to all the ones.
- 23:01It's like the blood is like the drug and they need it.
- 23:04And it seems like they need it pretty often.
- 23:06And if not, they start looking pretty rough, which is like the
- 23:09time last act of this film. Yeah, it was great.
- 23:13I love Adam and his just Moody, depressive looks.
- 23:18I love his robe that he wears like a majority of this film.
- 23:22It's just it's it is kind of 70s in my opinion.
- 23:26And it's also just very kind of. Yeah, there's like a burgundy,
- 23:31maroon to it, the stripes. It's very, I don't know, it's
- 23:37just Adam. Yeah, it's just Adam, man.
- 23:39He's just bummed out. And I get it.
- 23:42He's just just every costume we see is like, oh, it's just kind
- 23:45of drapey and loose. So he's comfortable, but he's
- 23:47also just, I don't know, you could feel smell like the sweat
- 23:51stains on it almost. So.
- 23:54You could feel like the pizza boxes next to him if he still
- 23:57ate pizza, you know, like, he's just like, I get it.
- 24:00This is how I feel a couple times a year.
- 24:02I just need to sit in my room in the dark and listen to some, you
- 24:07know, Depeche Mode or whatever and just chill in my black PJS.
- 24:13Absolutely. You know who's not chilling in
- 24:16black PJS? No, not this girl.
- 24:21Ava. Ava, I love her costumes because
- 24:27being a degler did not have to. Like, we didn't have to say a
- 24:31lot to tell you who Ava is in terms of like, because her
- 24:35costumes did a lot of the work. Yeah, she has the sunglasses,
- 24:39but they're so colorful and jarring compared to everything
- 24:42else that, like, when Adam sees her, you feel the same reaction.
- 24:47When she walks up in those colorful outfits, you're like,
- 24:49oh, like, it's like looking at the sun.
- 24:51Who is this? Why are you?
- 24:53You're doing too much. Why are you so bright and
- 24:55talkative and cheerful? Why are you cheerful about?
- 24:58We've been alive for too damn long to be this cheerful.
- 25:02Also, unlike Adam and Eve, Bina put her in synthetic fibers
- 25:10because she feels like Ava is lost.
- 25:14She she's always trying to get the blood.
- 25:17She always, she drinks straight from Adam's poor friend and and
- 25:21kills him. Yeah.
- 25:22Which was fucked up, yeah. She clearly doesn't like Revere
- 25:26the blood like the rest of them do, which is I think part of
- 25:29their problem with. Her and the.
- 25:32Fact that she's just annoying. I feel like she bought a bunch
- 25:35of clothes in the 60s and then stopped buying clothes.
- 25:39Yeah, I when I saw her, I thought the film almost famous,
- 25:42a little bit like that kind of rock'n'roll girl that's going on
- 25:45tour wearing like, you know, her coats and colorful colors, the
- 25:49sunglasses. Just she does feel lost.
- 25:51She doesn't feel like she has a home and she has to go and crash
- 25:54and ruin other people's sacred spaces.
- 25:57That's what Ava was to me. Yeah, absolutely.
- 26:02And she really just does it in style though.
- 26:06Yeah, I mean, she looks great. Her costumes aren't good, but
- 26:09just when she's standing next to Adam, you're like, oof.
- 26:12Like, who is that? Get her away from me.
- 26:14When they're at the club with all their glasses, I love that
- 26:17she has like the cat eye ones with just like a little bit of
- 26:19sparkle in the corners. Because it's not.
- 26:22That's not what we talked about in the group chat.
- 26:25We said no sparkles specifically and she didn't listen.
- 26:29No, no, she didn't. You know who is listening
- 26:32though, Spencer? Christopher Marlowe, played by
- 26:37one of my favorites, John Hurt. Oh, man, what a great actor.
- 26:41I love this man. I also love this character
- 26:45because I just, I thought it was so clever the way I just, I had
- 26:49to look it up. Of course, Christopher Marlowe,
- 26:52you probably know who this is. I didn't know.
- 26:55I was, I was watching this and I was like, I wonder if Spencer
- 26:59knows. And then I opened up the slides
- 27:02that today and I was like, Spencer didn't know.
- 27:05I had to look it up, but is that quip that they made about how he
- 27:08said he wrote Hamlet? And then that put me in a deep
- 27:12dive which I'll get into. But Christopher Marlow was a
- 27:15English playwright, poet, and translator of the Elizabethan
- 27:19era. Marlow is among the most famous
- 27:21of the Elizabethan playwrights. Modern scholars consider him to
- 27:24have been the foremost dramatist in London in the years just
- 27:28before his mysterious early death.
- 27:31Some scholars also believe that he greatly influenced William
- 27:35Shakespeare, who then later succeeded him as a preeminent
- 27:38Elizabethan playwright. And this is the part that, you
- 27:42know, put me in the deep dive, is that there's an argument that
- 27:45has arisen about the notion that Marlo faked his death and then
- 27:49continued to write under the assumed name of William
- 27:51Shakespeare and went on the rate all these plays.
- 27:54You know, academic consensus rejects his theory.
- 27:58But I still thought, you know, if I was Jim Jarmusch and I saw
- 28:01that, I'd be like, no, he, he's still alive.
- 28:04Like, that's just the great plot detail to put in there.
- 28:08This is good fun. I could.
- 28:09Send you some documents. Please do I need a good
- 28:15controversy? Could I send you the other
- 28:17documentaries? I said I would, I don't think.
- 28:19So talking about Elizabeth, we have a bunch of documentaries.
- 28:22This has been the season of documentaries, starting with
- 28:25Cleopatra. I made a list of documentaries
- 28:27because I said, oh, I'll send you documentaries for something.
- 28:31Oh yes, from Elizabeth, because the guys had a wife who
- 28:36mysteriously died. Yeah, and then the the queen,
- 28:39that was crazy. And, you know, we've been on the
- 28:42Cleopatra deep dive. We we should publish like a list
- 28:46of Elizabeth's supporting documents on our Instagram for
- 28:50all the podcast listeners. Should we?
- 28:52Should but I I love Christopher Marlow in this and just like
- 28:59it's so John Hurt. Like he's such a cool old man.
- 29:03And he does kind of give like a scholarly author type look to
- 29:09him too, though, like that he still kind of kept that through
- 29:13all of these centuries. And I love that his glasses had
- 29:16more of a round shape compared to everyone else's because
- 29:19again, it's still giving like, you know, professor, curator,
- 29:23author, playwright, right vibes about it.
- 29:25It's very subtle, but it's very subtle.
- 29:28The round shape does a lot. He had lots of like, very rich,
- 29:32like tans in his wardrobe. It's kind of like, oh, he's a
- 29:36writer. Like he wear he wears his
- 29:39writing in those colors. And I was so sad when he died.
- 29:45I know that was uncalled for. I know.
- 29:48I was like, this is already depressing, now they need
- 29:50something else to be depressed about.
- 29:52Adam and Eve take it hard and I get.
- 29:54It they do well because who like who knows how long?
- 29:58Oh, they've known him like 400 years.
- 30:00Yeah. Like, you know somebody that
- 30:03long? Dude, they knew Galileo.
- 30:05I don't know where if Galileo is before or after, but I know it's
- 30:08a long time away. Before.
- 30:11Before. Like I didn't say I'm a, I'm an
- 30:16academic. I I think Adam and Eve are
- 30:21minimum 2000 years old. Yeah, they're they're.
- 30:24Minimum, yeah. Pretty old.
- 30:28Pretty, pretty old, but that brings us to the end of Only
- 30:34Lovers Left Alive and that poor couple being mauled by Adam and
- 30:40Eve. Yeah, but you know, they
- 30:42probably, they were both looking haggard though.
- 30:44At that moment, though, I was like, I think it's time to break
- 30:47your guys's little rule and drink up a human.
- 30:50Well, so, because I think what I understood is part of the
- 30:54problem with drinking from people is you don't know what
- 30:57drugs they've taken. Yeah, that's kind of what I got.
- 31:01And like, clearly that's what happened to Marlo.
- 31:03He drank someone who had too many or the wrong drug in him,
- 31:07and he died. Yeah, that's kind of what I got
- 31:10to. Very depressing.
- 31:12But you know, that's what happens.
- 31:14That's a risky run when you're alive for that long.
- 31:17That's true. Like they would make Lestat look
- 31:19like a baby in this. Like that's what's so.
- 31:21Crazy to me, which I love. So let's give this thing a
- 31:28stitch rating. OK.
- 31:30What, what are you thinking? I I'll I you went first last
- 31:33time so I can say I I felt good about giving us a 3.5.
- 31:39You know, I felt good about giving this a solid 3.
- 31:44That's I'm a little bit higher than you.
- 31:46Yeah, this is flip flop from Lost Boys.
- 31:50This movie was just a little bit too long.
- 31:54I don't know, I think that's why I liked it because this film was
- 31:58a long film about like just the longevity of life and how, I
- 32:04don't know, like I kind of appreciate that just leaned into
- 32:08everything. So I.
- 32:11I just felt unlike a lot of the other things we've watched this
- 32:19month, I do feel like they kind of took a minute to get into it.
- 32:23It's like it's right off the bat, Like, OK, Adam's depressed.
- 32:27Adam is looking for a wooden bullet like.
- 32:31He's he's. Over it and Eve is like OK, I
- 32:35have to go cheer up my man, remind him why we continue to
- 32:40live while you understand what's going on.
- 32:42Pretty quickly they get it. The in between bits I was like
- 32:48Adam, did you really have to look at like 5 guitars?
- 32:53That's, I love that. I just think like after coming
- 32:57off of Interview of the Vampire, where every minute of that show,
- 33:02it's something it's horrible and horrific.
- 33:04Yeah, it's moving at lightspeed, and then we slowed it so way
- 33:09down for this film. That felt jarring a little bit,
- 33:13and I kind of loved it for that. So I'm going to stick with 3.5.
- 33:17You know? What I love more than anything
- 33:19is a fully realized aesthetic, and Only Lovers Left Alive knew
- 33:23exactly what it was from the moment it was written down to
- 33:27its release in theaters, you know?
- 33:28Absolutely. Absolutely.
- 33:30If this film only has one fan, it's me.
- 33:33Oh, I'm a fan. I'm a fan.
- 33:36I, I if, if we can get Tina Daigler on here to actually talk
- 33:41about it, I'd do a whole other episode for this.
- 33:43Yeah, Lookout Bina. She's probably got shit.
- 33:46Not these guys. Again.
- 33:48Are you ready to play our favorite game?
- 33:51Yes, the one costume to rule them all.
- 34:00Spencer, what was your one costume to rule them all?
- 34:03I have to go with Adam's robe. I love that strong.
- 34:07Choice. I love that maroon like shawl
- 34:10collar and the, you know, the sleeves.
- 34:14It's just the stripes. It's very, I just love that he
- 34:17lived in it. And you could just tell that
- 34:19like this was almost like his way of kind of shielding himself
- 34:23from the world and he just wants to be cuddled up in that sleeve.
- 34:26I mean, we all know this like you know what it's like to be
- 34:29out on like a Thursday night at you're at some event and you're
- 34:32like, God, what I would do to get in my bed with some in and
- 34:36out in my robe and with the lights off.
- 34:39Like he's like he's lived so long where he's like his those
- 34:44moments for him are like years long and he's in that moment
- 34:47right now. He's at home and he does not
- 34:49want any visitors unless you're his smoking hot wife, which
- 34:53always allowed. Always allowed my one costume to
- 34:57rule them all is a bit of A2 Fer.
- 35:00It is Adam and Eve's club look. The yin and the Yang, the
- 35:05glasses. The way he is holding on to her.
- 35:12Where can I find a man to hold on to me the way Adam holds on
- 35:16to Eve in this film? You know what, what they remind
- 35:19me of, they remind me of that couple.
- 35:21You know, you go to IHOP after being at the club all night.
- 35:25It's now 3:00 AM and there's that one couple in the corner
- 35:28that are drunk, but they just, like, can't get off of each
- 35:32other. And you're like, I'm like, Sir,
- 35:34this is a IHOP, you guys could not be hooking up right now
- 35:38with. 24 hour IHOP. Downtown.
- 35:40This is not the place to be doing this.
- 35:42With the fluorescent lighting, that's this couple, they're
- 35:45obsessed with each other and they don't give a shit.
- 35:48And they look good with those sunglasses.
- 35:50It's, it's such a vibe. It's like a part, they look
- 35:54incredible, but together it's like, oh, they're, they're a
- 35:58set. Like they're a perfectly
- 36:00matching pair and it's so cute. I feel like Eve would like give
- 36:07him a piggyback ride to the car. Like they're so attached he he
- 36:11would clutch onto her like a koala because.
- 36:14Because he would be like, I can't do it Eve, I can't go on.
- 36:16And she just like put him on on her back.
- 36:19Come on darling, let's go. The sun's about to rise.
- 36:23We can't stay out here. I love that she's so patient
- 36:28with them too. Like.
- 36:30After all these years, wow, they they really are the best.
- 36:33Yeah. Who would have thought we would
- 36:34find relationship goals and only lovers left alive?
- 36:39Who would have thought we'd find relationship goals in our sexy
- 36:43vampire month in general? Because we have a lot of bad
- 36:47examples in this month and I think our next episode is the
- 36:52prime example of what not to do in life whatsoever.
- 36:56Elizabeth, please tell everyone what you've been making me watch
- 37:00every night for the 8 hours a day for the past week.
- 37:05Next week we'll be we will be watching the thing I have spent
- 37:09forced Spencer to watch this past month.
- 37:12The sexiest of all vampire shows.
- 37:15True. Grand finale, Yes.
- 37:19Oh my gosh, this This is probably the craziest show that
- 37:23we have covered on. This these are the most your
- 37:27comments on this show have probably been the most insane
- 37:31text messages you have ever sent me.
- 37:34And I'm only one season in, I'm on season 2 now.
- 37:38But oh wow, this show is a lot. It's a lot.
- 37:44It's wild. But I'm loving it though and I'm
- 37:46excited to talk about it. I don't know where to even start
- 37:50with it honestly so. We'll get into it next week,
- 37:52yeah. In the meantime, send us an
- 37:56e-mail at theartofcostume@gmail.com.
- 37:59Let us know what you loved about Only Lovers Left Alive.
- 38:04Are you also a vampire that knew Galileo or William Shakespeare?
- 38:09Are you William Shakespeare? Send us an e-mail.
- 38:12I would like to hear about it, you know, things you used to do
- 38:17back then. That'd be pretty cool.
- 38:18Or you could follow us on Instagram at the Art of costume
- 38:21pod TikTok at the Art of costume again, if you are not already,
- 38:26subscribe to us on YouTube where you could see our shining faces.
- 38:31Currently, we are wearing sunglasses like our new couple
- 38:36goals, Adam and Eve, and it's a lot of fun.
- 38:39So and you get to see our guests and all the favorite costumes
- 38:43that we're talking about. So do it.
- 38:45Subscribe already, Elizabeth, I guess we're going to meet next
- 38:49week in Louisiana again and things are not looking good out
- 38:53there. These are not looking.
- 38:55Good, they could be better. We have shape shifters.
- 38:59I hear that werewolves are going to be involved.
- 39:01Oh yeah. We have Alexander Skarsgard's
- 39:04here. It's just a whole, it's a whole
- 39:07hot mess out in down these streets.
- 39:10So I'm excited to talk about it. We'll see you all next week.
- 39:13See you next week.