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Latina Erasure at Super Nintendo World, Universal Epic Universe · Like a Virgin

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  Speaker 1: Welcome back to Like a Virgin. I'm Rose Damu.
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  Speaker 2: And I'm Fran Torado.
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  Speaker 1: And we are freshly back from the greatest vacation either
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  Speaker 1: of us have ever taken. No hyperbole. We are never
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  Speaker 1: which we ranked the universal, the classic universal monsters as
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  Speaker 1: they are represented in the Ride Monsters Unchained, which we
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  Speaker 1: will discuss shortly. by bisexuality, which is now sort of
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  Speaker 1: morning and chuckled a couple times because a man can laugh,
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  Speaker 1: but a woman has to chuckle.
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  Speaker 2: A woman has to chuckle. And let me tell you,
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  Speaker 2: I was chuckling myself when I was editing the Igor
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  Speaker 2: City just did make me giggle. And yeah, go find
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  Speaker 2: our rankings of bisexuality. I honestly have already wondered if
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  Speaker 2: there's a mistake in our ranking, Rose. And I'm saying
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  Speaker 2: we put the brides of Frankenstein actually, sorry, the brides
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  Speaker 2: of Dracula should be higher.
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  Speaker 1: We have no breaking news this week. Because as we said,
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  Speaker 1: we've been on vacation. So we were really not paying
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  Speaker 1: attention to what was going on in the world. I
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  Speaker 1: didn't even know about the rides that were happening in
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  Speaker 1: Paris until Fran told me about them at the airport
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  Speaker 1: on our way back.
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  Speaker 2: Yes.
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  Speaker 1: That is a symptom of not having Twitter on my phone,
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  Speaker 1: which is a lifestyle y'all should get into.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. It was impressive the fact that you truly, through
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  Speaker 2: hours of waiting in Orlando theme park rides, never checked
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  Speaker 2: TikTok or Instagram because you couldn't. You had to wait
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  Speaker 2: until you got back into the hotel and you can
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  Speaker 2: open up your iPad and And pull out your stylus
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  Speaker 2: and then turn to me and go, ha ha, look
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  Speaker 2: at this meme. And it's a meme of the Hunchback
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  Speaker 2: of Notre Dame with a big, fat, juicy ass. And
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  Speaker 2: it says the Hunchback of Notre Dame.
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  Speaker 1: Which we will post on. Well, maybe we'll post the
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  Speaker 1: picture of me holding my iPad on our Instagram.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 1: But we had so much fun on this trip. First
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  Speaker 1: of all, Fran, I want to be a little corny
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  Speaker 1: and just. thank you for going on this journey with me.
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  Speaker 1: Of course. I know that I had to talk you
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  Speaker 1: into it a little. A little.
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  Speaker 2: I was in when I found out there was discounts.
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  Speaker 1: At first you were hesitant, but... At first I was afraid.
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  Speaker 1: At first you were petrified.
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  Speaker 2: I was petrified.
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  Speaker 1: Something I have been really doing over the past couple
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  Speaker 1: years as a way basically to keep me alive and
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  Speaker 1: not suicidal is really, really.
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  Speaker 1: And I have kind of reframed it as indulging myself
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  Speaker 1: because I don't like the idea of doing the things
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  Speaker 1: you like being an indulgence. I'm simply making myself happy
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  Speaker 1: by doing the things that I love. And something that
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  Speaker 1: I've identified with the help of my therapist is that
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  Speaker 1: I really love play. And I love things like theme
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  Speaker 1: parks and haunted houses and especially spooky season. And the
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  Speaker 1: only way to... experience those things to their fullest extent
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  Speaker 1: is to make them happen for yourself and hopefully find
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  Speaker 1: people who want to do them with you. And so Fran,
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  Speaker 1: you coming with me when literally no one else in
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  Speaker 1: my life besides my sisters would want to do that
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  Speaker 1: meant so much to me. And I had so much
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  Speaker 1: fun with you. We had so much fun together. It
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  Speaker 1: truly like makes me emotional, brought me so much joy.
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  Speaker 1: These memories will last a lifetime. They will. We had
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  Speaker 1: such a good time.
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  Speaker 2: They'll last for as long as until we forget them.
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  Speaker 1: Right, right.
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  Speaker 2: Well, you know, I have been building my... Until two
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  Speaker 2: to three years from now, you go, what do we
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  Speaker 2: do again in Epic Universe?
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  Speaker 1: Okay, well, here's the thing. As I may have mentioned before,
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  Speaker 1: I do, when I go to theme parks, chronicle every...
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  Speaker 1: In my journal... Your theme park diary? Well, my general diary.
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  Speaker 1: journal right um but in this section where i keep
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  Speaker 1: notes on like all the books i'm reading blah blah
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  Speaker 1: i also when i go to a theme park every
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  Speaker 1: day i go through and list out the rides that
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  Speaker 1: i went on the food that i ate and the
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  Speaker 1: characters that i saw because i want to remember you
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  Speaker 1: want to remember we didn't see very many characters actually
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  Speaker 1: it was actually shocking that at disney we saw zero
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  Speaker 1: characters Between two parks, zero characters.
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  Speaker 2: Saw none.
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  Speaker 1: Saw none. Where were they?
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  Speaker 2: Where were they? I mean, with Star Wars Rise of
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  Speaker 2: the Resistance, if we want to get into some of
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  Speaker 2: the rides that we did, there are actors and players
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  Speaker 2: that facilitate the ride that are kind of characters and
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  Speaker 2: you feel like you're in the world.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, but I'm talking we did not see any face characters,
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  Speaker 1: which is.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 1: Actors who were in costume as, you know, say Luke Skywalker.
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  Speaker 2: Giant Mickey or Minnie kind of characters.
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  Speaker 1: And we did not see suited characters, which are, you know,
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  Speaker 1: the ones that are in the big suits. They're fursonas.
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  Speaker 1: They're fursonas. Yeah, that was really weird. And then I
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  Speaker 1: think the only characters we saw besides the scare actors
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  Speaker 1: at Halloween Horror Nights were Mario and Luigi at Epic Universe.
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  Speaker 2: We also saw Peach. Oh, yes.
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  Speaker 1: Briefly. Yes, we did. Briefly.
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  Speaker 2: We saw Peach. There was a line to meet Spider-Man,
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  Speaker 2: but we did not see Spider-Man.
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  Speaker 1: Himself. Shimself. Shimself.
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  Speaker 2: But I would say here's something that the virgins need
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  Speaker 2: to know about me. I did not grow up on
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  Speaker 2: theme parks, okay? Going to Disney this weekend was the
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  Speaker 2: third time I've been to Disney in my entire life,
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  Speaker 2: the first of which I was like six years old.
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  Speaker 2: So I don't really remember... anything beyond going on the
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  Speaker 2: Snow White ride and crying.
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  Speaker 1: Something I also did as a child, but sort of
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  Speaker 1: leaned into as I got older.
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  Speaker 2: Right. And with Universal, going to theme parks nowadays does
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  Speaker 2: feel like this inner child work, if you will. It
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  Speaker 2: is just dopamine chasing in a way that I think
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  Speaker 2: everybody should have access to. Because there is no better
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  Speaker 2: feeling than... The adrenaline rush of being close to death
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  Speaker 2: on a roller coaster and screaming in unison with everyone else.
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  Speaker 2: We get so few opportunities to scream in public. It's
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  Speaker 2: not socially acceptable. And it's so cathartic, even though I
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  Speaker 2: did sort of lose my voice and become even clockier
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  Speaker 2: than I had been already. Now that you said it,
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  Speaker 2: Stardust Racers... Which is, if you do not know, Epic
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  Speaker 2: Universe at Universal comprises several different kind of franchise sub-universes.
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  Speaker 2: There's Dark Universe. There's How to Train Your Dragon Universe.
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  Speaker 2: There's like the Harry Potter world. There's like all these
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  Speaker 2: different whatever. And then there's kind of this generic celestial
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  Speaker 2: kind of world in which the Stardust Racers roller coaster
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  Speaker 2: lives and breathes. No original kind of like intellectual property
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  Speaker 2: attached to it.
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  Speaker 1: It's just a roller coaster.
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  Speaker 2: The number one roller coaster experience of my entire life.
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  Speaker 2: And I have not been on as many roller coasters
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  Speaker 2: as you, Rose, but I've still been on quite a lot.
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  Speaker 1: Yes.
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  Speaker 2: This is not an exaggeration. After my first ride on
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  Speaker 2: Stardust Racers, we crash down, we get to the bottom
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  Speaker 2: of the roller coaster, the ride ends. I feel physiologically
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  Speaker 2: in my body something that no joke. feels like I
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  Speaker 2: just had sex. Like it was a physiological, heavy, heavy
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  Speaker 2: breathing while dancing, coughing.
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  Speaker 1: Um, hard nipples, just like when we went to Publix
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  Speaker 1: and you were bricked up.
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  Speaker 2: I had really hard nipples at Publix. That's true. But
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  Speaker 2: no Stardust Racers. No, I did not have this experience
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  Speaker 2: on any other rollercoaster. We I was so ecstatic, euphoric, wild-eyed.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, have you ever seen that expression on my face?
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  Speaker 1: No, never.
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  Speaker 2: It was truly, truly, like, physiological.
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  Speaker 1: And the only other time I saw that expression on
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  Speaker 1: your face was after Monsters Unchained. Monsters Unchained. We'll get
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  Speaker 1: to it. We're doing roller coasters now.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 1: Um. Stardust Racers, so our first experience, incredible.
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  Speaker 2: Girl.
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  Speaker 1: Then we, you know, made the plan that we were
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  Speaker 1: going to do Stardust Racers again as our final ride
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  Speaker 1: of the day.
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  Speaker 2: It was our first ride of the day. It was
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  Speaker 2: to be our last ride of the day.
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  Speaker 1: And when we got to it, at the end of
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  Speaker 1: the day, as the sun had set, we saw that
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  Speaker 1: the line was 45 minutes long and we were like,
• 13:27
  Speaker 1: oh God, are we really going to do this? Then
• 13:29
  Speaker 1: we said, yes, we are. Because we saw that at night-
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  Speaker 1: the ride lights up and looks so much cooler. And
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  Speaker 1: we were like, okay, we have to do this. We
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  Speaker 1: waited in this like labyrinthine line.
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  Speaker 2: They were playing.
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  Speaker 1: They were playing in our faces. And then we get
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  Speaker 1: on the ride as the firework spectacular, as the fountain
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  Speaker 1: spectacular is happening. And then as we are about to
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  Speaker 1: take off, the fireworks start. So we are riding the
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  Speaker 1: best ride in the park as the, At night, as
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  Speaker 1: a glow-in-the-dark fountain show is happening and fireworks are blasting
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  Speaker 1: in the air. It was a transcendent experience. I have
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  Speaker 1: never felt closer to God, who is a woman, by
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  Speaker 1: the way.
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  Speaker 2: And Stardust Racers, if you're not familiar, is like kind
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  Speaker 2: of the third or fourth fastest roller coaster in Orlando. Like,
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  Speaker 2: I think the faster ones are, I think the Hulk coaster. Okay,
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  Speaker 2: I'm reading right now. Stardust Racers, 62 miles per hour.
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  Speaker 2: Incredible Hulk, 67 miles per hour. The VelociCoaster, 70 miles
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  Speaker 2: per hour.
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  Speaker 1: And you feel it.
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  Speaker 2: And you feel it in your bones.
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  Speaker 1: But I do think that Stardust Racers, because of the...
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  Speaker 1: So it's two coasters racing simultaneously. Sort of like back
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  Speaker 1: in the day, we had Dueling Dragons at Islands of Adventure,
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  Speaker 1: which was the same idea. Um, and, but the crazy
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  Speaker 1: thing about it is that they, these coasters not only
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  Speaker 1: go side by side, they intersect. At one point they
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  Speaker 1: sort of flip together and you are feet away from
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  Speaker 1: the other riders. In fact, the first time I ever
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  Speaker 1: went on it, my sister Alex was on the other
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  Speaker 1: car and we saw each other.
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  Speaker 2: You made eye contact.
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  Speaker 1: We made eye contact, which was nuts. Um, but Stardust Racers,
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  Speaker 1: it's not just the speed. It's the flips, tricks, turns, stunts.
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  Speaker 1: It's kind of the Sasha Colby of roller coasters.
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  Speaker 2: It is.
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  Speaker 1: It is.
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  Speaker 2: It's about showmanship, no frills.
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  Speaker 1: Charisma, uniqueness, nerve, and talent.
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  Speaker 2: Okay. And let me tell you, if we're going to
• 15:50
  Speaker 2: stay with this kind of like drag queen metaphor, there
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  Speaker 2: are some drag queens that are all about the reveal.
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  Speaker 2: They're about the IP. They're about the props. They're about
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  Speaker 2: the drag. They're about the wigs. They're about the, you know,
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  Speaker 2: a certain kind of narrative that they need to sell
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  Speaker 2: you on. That is what a lot of these other
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  Speaker 2: coasters are giving. The other coasters are giving animatronics. The
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  Speaker 2: other coasters are giving characters, intellectual property, franchises, a linear
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  Speaker 2: narrative that you as the writer are following in the
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  Speaker 2: pre-show leading up to the coaster or the ride. Stardust
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  Speaker 2: Racers is, doesn't need to sell you on anything but
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  Speaker 2: the fact that you are stars, you are stardust, and
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  Speaker 2: you are racing. Period.
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  Speaker 1: And that in and of itself made it the best coaster.
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  Speaker 1: It felt like doing a little Charlie Kirk.
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  Speaker 2: It felt like doing a little Charlie Kirk.
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  Speaker 1: And in fact, I kind of wish we had done
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  Speaker 1: a little Charlie Kirk before getting on it.
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  Speaker 2: Actually, if our heart palpitations could handle that. I think
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  Speaker 2: that would be extremely dangerous and not advised on like
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  Speaker 2: a health advisory level.
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  Speaker 1: Especially considering someone has died on Stardust Racers.
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  Speaker 2: On Stardust Racers, right.
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  Speaker 1: To be fair, he had a pre-existing condition.
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  Speaker 2: He had a pre-existing heart condition.
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  Speaker 1: But he did fully die on Stardust Racers. And honestly,
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  Speaker 1: that's how I want to go. She died as she
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  Speaker 1: lived on a roller coaster. Doing what she loved. With
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  Speaker 1: fucked up bangs.
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  Speaker 2: Doing what she loved.
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  Speaker 1: Doing what she loved.
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  Speaker 2: Um, other coasters. Okay. The, the other coasters that are
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  Speaker 2: worth talking about in my mind are obviously, um, Monsters Unchained.
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  Speaker 1: Well, that's a dark ride.
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  Speaker 2: It's a dark ride, whatever. Okay.
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  Speaker 1: Let's talk about the, let's talk about the other coasters.
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  Speaker 1: So VelociCoaster.
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  Speaker 2: Just so, just so the virgins know what's the difference
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  Speaker 2: between a coaster and a dark ride.
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  Speaker 1: Okay. A roller coaster is a roller coaster. You know,
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  Speaker 1: I think we're all very clear what that is. A
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  Speaker 1: dark ride is a ride that takes place indoors and
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  Speaker 1: is both a tracked or trackless, in the case of
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  Speaker 1: Rise of the Resistance, cart ride that involves a level
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  Speaker 1: of theatricality and showmanship, usually done with a mix of
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  Speaker 1: animatronics and screens.
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  Speaker 2: And a costumed kind of ensemble ride.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, so a dark coaster, a dark ride is something like,
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  Speaker 1: you know, a dark ride is not necessarily about like
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  Speaker 1: the thematic aspect. So a dark ride can be something
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  Speaker 1: like the Peter Pan ride at Disney. And then a
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  Speaker 1: dark ride is also something like Monsters Unchained. It's any
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  Speaker 1: ride where you are indoors, it is dark, and a
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  Speaker 1: kind of a show is happening around you that you
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  Speaker 1: are moving through. Right. So out of the purely roller
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  Speaker 1: coasters we rode, I think the other one really that
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  Speaker 1: deserves her due is the VelociCoaster, which is part of
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  Speaker 1: the Jurassic Park section of Islands of Adventure. As Fran said,
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  Speaker 1: it goes 70 miles per hour. It has some of
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  Speaker 1: the most sickening drops I've ever drooped.
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: It has one part near the end. Where you flip
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: upside down and are truly, I would say, maybe six
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: to ten feet over the water.
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: Upside down.
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: Upside down.
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: It's crazy. You think you were going to die. Yeah.
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: Well, and the one big drop before that, I lifted
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: out my seat. I thought I was going to go flying.
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: I thought we were about to be final destination.
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: I always think about final destination when I ride a
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: roller coaster. And I think everyone does, actually.
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: I think it's normal.
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: As they should.
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: I also want to say, I mean, I love the Velocicoaster.
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: My one complaint is that I kind of wish there
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: were animatronics involved. There was only one coaster, one Velociraptor
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: represented in the ride. If you're not counting the kind
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: of screen, the Velociraptors on screen.
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: At the beginning of the ride. Yeah, as you're launching.
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: As you're launching off. But I do wish there was
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: a little bit more. shall we say, dinner and a show?
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: How could we integrate that? I think maybe like every...
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: So instead of every... seat being two people, it's one
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: person and they're like... One Velociraptor. One Velociraptor, yes.
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: An animatronic Velociraptor is your co-pilot for every seat and
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: does try to eat you and sometimes is successful.
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: Yes. It's trying to eat you as you are riding.
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: I do think that will make the wait time longer
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: because less people can ride every time, but I think
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: it will be a worthwhile experience and we have fast
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: passes anyway, so... Yes, exactly.
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: I will also say, while we're in the coaster section,
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: the only other thing I wanted to say is that
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: I have ridden the Revenge of the Mummy ride now
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: in Los Angeles. I have ridden the Revenge of the
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: Mummy ride now in Orlando. I do think that the
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: ride in LA is better.
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: See, I don't remember what's different about it, so I
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: cannot say that Um, but I believe you believe women.
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: I believe that the mummy ride in Orlando has more
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: va va voom effects. Like there's, I believe a wet effect.
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: I know there's pyrotechnics. I don't know if the LA
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: coaster has that, but it is to me a better coaster.
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: There's a moment in the LA revenge of the mummy
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: where you are thrust up against a screen that creates
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: a big, scary, ugly kind of, ghost mummy face and
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: it scares you and then the ride drops backwards and
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: that moment happens in Orlando but it happens in a
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: slower less kind of jump scary way and for that
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: reason I will say the LA Revenge of the Mummy
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: is better.
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: I mean there are several theme park rides that I
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: do think are better at their LA counterpart parks like
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: the Indiana Jones ride is much better than the shit
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: they've got at Disney, although I think they are building
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: that ride at Animal Kingdom. Haunted Mansion at Disneyland is
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: way better than it is at Magic Kingdom at Disney World. But,
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: you know, either way, love Revenge of the Mummy. Love
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: Revenge of the Mummy. Also... Oh, we... So this was
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: new for both of us. The Rock and Roller Coaster,
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: which has in the past been themed around Aerosmith, which
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: Fran was shocked to find out, was recently.
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: There's an Aerosmith coaster and also an Ozzy Osbourne coaster?
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: Well, there's an Ozzy Osbourne haunted house. Oh, I thought
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: there was a coaster.
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: No.
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: Oh, so random. So it was before the Rock and
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: Roller Coaster featuring Aerosmith. It has been rethemed to be
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: the rock and roller coaster featuring the Muppets. It is,
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: I will say, like still kind of the same ride. Yeah.
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: But the pre-show featuring Muppets is super fun.
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: So good.
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: And that is where I spent the most money on merch.
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: Right. It is actually also the only place I bought
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: something for myself. I bought Muppet earrings featuring Kermit, Piggy,
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: and Animal, who is my other favorite Muppet.
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: And Fran graciously split those earrings with me. So we
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: both have them. Right.
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: It's like, yeah, we each, it's kind of like our
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: version of the best friend kind of necklace with the
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: two pieces of the broken heart, except it's Muppets.
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: I still kind of would like one of those. Yeah.
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: I would like one of those too. Okay.
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: We'll work. Okay. Let's talk, let's talk dark rides.
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: And there really is only one, one diva up for discussion. Yeah.
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: And that is Monsters Unchained. Which exists at Universal's Epic Universe.
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: Their newly opened theme park had opened last year or
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: the year before. It has a couple different sections. There's
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: a How to Train Your Dragon section. There's a Harry
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: Potter section. Right. Never heard of it. Don't know what
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: that is. There is a Super Mario Brothers section, which
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: Fran was really gooped and gagged by. Gagged. And then
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: there is... Dark Universe, which is the spooky section, home
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: of the classic Universal Monsters, which are sort of celebrated
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: the most in the ride Monsters Unchained. The idea of
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: which is that Victoria Frankenstein, an original character who is
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: supposed to be Victor Frankenstein's great-great-granddaughter, has gotten all of
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: these ooky spooky monsters under her control in the bowels
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: of Darkmoor, the family castle. And Her most recent acquisition
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: is Dracula, but he escapes and lets the monsters loose. Hence,
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: Monsters Unchained.
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: Unchained. Fran, what were your thoughts on this ride?
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: I was not prepared for how this would feel. And
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: I'm going to set this up with some light shade.
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: And forgive me, Rose. The day before we went to
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: Epic Universe, we were at Disney. Rose took her sisters
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: and I, she as she is so good at doing,
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: lovingly curates the rides, the experiences, the cadence of the day,
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: the optimization of that day perfectly.
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: I am the mom friend.
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: I have no notes. However, you did take us on
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: the Tower of Terror. You also took us on the
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: Haunted Mansion ride. These are two spooktacular rides. They are
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: the kind of pieces of IP in the Disney theme
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: park that are for girls like us, goth girls, hot
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: topic girls, girls interested in the thrills and chills and
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: the haunted kind of-ness, as it were.
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: Girls who were really into The Nightmare Before Christmas in
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: middle school.
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: The Tower of Terror on a world building level, absolutely loved.
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: A great ride. The drop was really not as scary
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: as I thought it would be, but still incredible. The
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: Haunted Mansion was a ride for children. It is a
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: kind of, it's a small world after all, kind of
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: like ride you take a nap on. And I was
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: truly so underwhelmed because you had talked it up so much.
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: But what I realized after.
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: But I have so much nostalgia tied to it.
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: That's what I realized after is that it's about nostalgia
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: and also tis the season. We're here in Orlando the
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: month of October. We must go to the Haunted Mansion ride.
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: And you know what? You were kind of gagged by
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: the dancing scene in the dining room.
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: Yes, I love.
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: With the Pepper's ghost effect.
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: I love the holograms. I love the dancing ghosts. I
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: thought the ride was beautiful. But it was an extremely
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: snoozy ride.
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: Did you like when we got turned into ghosts at
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: the end?
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: I love that part, actually. I forgot about that. That
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: was incredible.
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: I do wish we had some sort of photograph of that.
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: There's a version of that in the Avatar ride that
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: I've heard about that I kind of wish we had experienced,
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: but we didn't have time to go to that.
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: Oh, where they turn you into an... It's not really...
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: It's like very generic. It's not actually like tailored to you.
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: Oh, good to know. But I want to say... That
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: by the time we had gotten to Monsters Unchained, I was,
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: at this point, a little skeptical of Rose's curation. Because
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: I was like, well, is Rose just taking me?
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: Fuck my drive.
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: I was like, is Rose just taking me on another
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: kind of haunted ride for the nostalgia, for the seasonal
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: nature of it? No. This was, next to Stardust Razors,
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: the best ride that I rode, that I rided. And
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: let me tell you, girl, I want to, I'm thinking
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: about it still. I want to, we got, we finished
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: our first ride at Monsters Unchained and I said, let's
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: go again. And we did.
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: And we did, shimmediately.
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: Shimmediately.
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: Because I know the hack.
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: Because Rose knows the hack on how to ride again.
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: We rode it two times in a row. It is
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: a fabulous ride. I would like to, I want to
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: go back just to ride Monsters Unchained.
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: It's incredible. I have gone back. I have now been
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: to Epic Universe three times in two years. And I
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: have ridden Monsters Unchained, as of this trip, 13 times. Spooky.
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: So wait, does that mean that... How many times... What
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: was the most number of times you rode it? In
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: one trip? Like five?
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: Six?
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: What?
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I rode it six times the last time I
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: was there.
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: And I understand that, actually. Because I have experienced it myself. We...
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: If you are interested in anything regarding the Universal Monsters
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: or Monsters Unchained, you should go and subscribe to our Patreon, Plugiana,
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: patreon.com slash shagavirgin, because our bonus episode focuses on the
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: Universal Monsters as curated by... the Monsters Unchained ride. But
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: it was the best dark ride. It was incredible. I
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: loved the other dark rides we've been on, but this
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: was the one to talk about.
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: Talk about. Talk about. It just has everything you want.
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: It has a really cool... Ride mechanism, you are in
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: a seat that is connected to this sort of robotic
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: arm that can really like swing you around like anywhere
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: you want to go. It has the most animatronics I've
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: ever seen on a single ride. It's just animatronic after
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: animatronic after animatronic and amazingly integrated with the screen scenes,
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: which are so well done. It is, there's plenty of
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: really good jump scares that get me every time.
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: The stylization.
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: Both times we got on.
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: The stylization is really timeless. Like it's, you would worry that,
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: you know, classic universal monsters, they're trying to make them
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: hyper contemporary, make them really like placed in like 2026.
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: But they felt like they struck this balance between vintage
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: and monsters, classic nostalgia around the IP of the mummy, Dracula,
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: the werewolf, et cetera, that felt still totally up to
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: date in how polished, clean, sickening.
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: And you know why I think that is? It's because
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: they made them all sexy.
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: They made them all kind of sexy. Let me tell you-
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: Which we get into more on our bonus episode. We
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: talk about the suckability of the monsters. I think something
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: that is really of note is that the Dracula is
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: barefoot in this ride.
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: So if you've ever wanted to perv on Dracula's feet,
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: get yourself to Orlando, girl.
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: Babes, feet for free. Actually, not for free. The Epic
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: Universe costs money to go there.
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: The whole trip is very expensive.
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: But I will also say, just while we're here, that
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: Dracula is barefoot, much like the guests at our hotel,
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: the Pacific Royale. Girl, what is it?
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: The Royal Pacific.
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: No, the Pacific Royale is better.
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: I'm changing it. Lowe's Royal Pacific, where we stayed, which
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: was lovely for the most part.
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: For the most part, because for whatever reason, at this resort,
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: people who have paid good money to be here and
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: are supposed to be respectable citizens, civilians in this place.
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: In this shared space with other people.
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: In this shared space. running around the lobby with no shoes.
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: And I'm not talking children, although children were in fact barefoot,
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: grown adults.
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: And it's not like they wandered in from the pool
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: because they had to use the bathroom. They were just
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: raw dogging the hotel lobby floor.
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: And, Raw dugging, that means no sock divas. No socks.
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: Bare feet.
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: And unashamed of their barefootedness.
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: What is up with that? What is up with that?
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: It is like, it is like so like, it is
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: so actually like grotesque.
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: It was baffling. Respect yourself. But thankfully, there were other
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: things in the hotel that made up for it.
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: Like the nachos that we ate by the pool on
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: Sunday were incredible.
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: The breakfast.
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: To die for.
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: While we're in this complaint section, sorry, I know we'll
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: get back to haunted houses, but I just have to say,
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: when we were in Super Mario World at Epic Universe,
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: there was no Dixie Kong. Okay? There was no Dixie Kong.
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: There's Donkey Kong. There's Diddy Kong. Where is Dixie Kong?
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: Our shuttle to Epic Universe pulls up. Biggest character on
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: the bus, Dixie Kong.
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, my God. That is really crazy.
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: Crazy. I'm like, oh, my God. I forgot about Dixie Kong.
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: Dixie Kong's going to be at Super Mario World. I'm
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: so excited. I literally like my Adderall was hitting Rose.
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: I was Jones and I was ready.
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: I was like, oh, my God.
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: I'm so excited for Dixie Kong. There was nary a
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: Dixie Kong character. Not one single piece of Dixie Kong souvenirs, merch,
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: not a mural, not a sticker.
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: It's possible she might have been represented on the ride,
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: which we did not go on because the single rider
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: line was closed and the wait time was way too long.
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: Right, that's true.
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: But the fact that there was no merch available for
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: her and she was advertised on the side of the
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: shuttle is really crazy. I could understand it if she's
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: a sort of lesser known Mario character and she's just
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: not present at all, but to have her on the
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: side of the bus... And then have her nowhere else.
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: That's misogyny.
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: It's misogyny. And it's also Latina erasure. Because obviously Dixie
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: Kong is famously Latina. She's canonically Latina. We know this. And,
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: you know, that insult to injury with the fact that
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: there was no representation for Funky Kong either.
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: Okay?
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: Funky Kong, iconic-like character in the Donkey Kong universe. It
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: is simply Donkey Kong wearing gas station sunglasses, a wife beater,
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: and a bandana.
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: He is.
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: on i mean she is on my reading a non-binary
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: butch trans femme and i also latina i was not
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: expecting there to be funky kong merch but i was
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: kind of like look it's epic universe like they should
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: have if if you have a souvenir shop just represent
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: every character just have just one little statuette one pin
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: a keychain like You should have every single character represented
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: in these souvenir shops. And we were hunting, Rose. It's
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: not like we went to a souvenir shop and they were.
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: Like, oh, that's it. No. We were check hunting for
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: Dixie Kong. Yes.
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: We went to the Capitol. We looked for evidence. Similar
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: issue at the Toon Lagoon at Disney. There was Popeye,
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: no olive oil.
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: Misogyny strikes again.
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: Misogyny strikes again. Lots of Popeye merch. Lots of Popeye,
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: you know, cutouts, tunes. No olive oil. No olive oil
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: representation whatsoever.
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: Disrespectful. Thankfully, tons of Betty Boop and Kathy. Right.
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: No Kathy souvenirs.
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: Yes. And I would have bought some Kathy merch.
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: You better believe.
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: Well, this is, you know, money on the table for them, Rose.
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: And if they wanted to hire us to consult on
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: the future curation of their gift shops, we actually would
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: slay that.
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: We are extremely available and interested.
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: Yes. It's okay because I have secured my own Funky
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: Kong statuette.
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: And I'm so happy to hear that.
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: Thank you.
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: Let's talk about Halloween Horror Nights, which was the first
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: night we did, which I do believe on my part
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: was incredibly smart planning. So smart. Because I think, as
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: you said at one point, if that had been towards
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: the end of the trip, you would have left.
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I am, as I've discovered, I mean, I already
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: knew this about myself, but I was excited to go regardless.
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: I don't really care about haunted houses. I don't think
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: they're for me. It's not that I really like or
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: dislike them. It's just that I don't know if I
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: love the experience of getting run up on.
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: But you certainly enjoyed it as we were doing it.
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: I enjoyed waiting in line with your sisters and gossiping
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: and playing the very fun game Spot My Crush. Where
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: while waiting in line, one of us says, Spot My Crush.
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: And then we have to look around and see if
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: we can guess who is the hottie that one of
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: us is crushing on. And it was always extremely obvious.
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: It was always extremely obvious. It was always guessable within
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: three seconds. And I also do.
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: I like just experiencing it with you guys. So, like,
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: time well spent. But do I ever need to go
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: to any haunted house ever again?
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: No, I don't. That saddens me to hear because I
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: love haunted houses. I love being scared. Love screaming. Love it.
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: Love it for you and with you.
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: We went to three haunted houses because the lines were
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: extremely long. And that's sort of, you know, all we
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: had the energy for. We did Hellraiser, Cybergoria. And Evil
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: Dead Burn. Which was your favorite?
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: Evil Dead Burn had, to me, the scariest effects, the
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: scariest world. I think because it was the most realist,
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: where Hellraiser and Cybergoria are based on a kind of
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: fantasy IP, it was really, really terrifying to me. I
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: think it had, there's a moment with it like a
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: demonic dog that's really, really scary.
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I did appreciate Evil Dead Burn. I did find
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: it scary, even though I don't really love that movie,
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: which we did end up watching in our hotel room
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: one night. And I think you also had a lot
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: of problems with it.
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it didn't really make... I loved the kills. I
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: loved the violence. I thought that there were some sickening
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: set pieces, but not a ton of logic and follow through.
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: I thought Cybergoria was the scariest in terms of the
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: scare actors. I thought their prosthetics were really scary, but
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: my favorite was Hellraiser just because I'm such a huge,
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: huge Hellraiser fan. It was the one house that was
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: like non-negotiable for me. We had to go and we
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: went on it first. And it, like, yes, it was scary.
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: um and honestly but really what made it my favorite
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: was how insane and accurate the production was like there
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: are scenes in it that are ripped straight from the
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: movies um it's really incredible and impressive it felt like
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: you were on a soundstage walking through the set of Hellbound,
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: Hellraiser 2. It integrated things from all of the movies
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: that matter, kind of, which I would say are about
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: the first three, maybe four, The.
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: Prosthetics, the makeup looks so much like the films.
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: It was really beautiful. So many pinheads, really good chatterer makeup,
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: really good female Cenobite makeup, some good Frank Cotton representation.
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: They do have the Jesus wept moment. It was just
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: like such a gleeful, satisfying experience for me as a
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: diehard Hellraiser head. A pinhead, if you will. A pinhead,
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: if you will. I really, really need to get the
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: Nintendo Switch 2 so that I can play Hellraiser Revival,
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: the new game.
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: We're going to wait until Black Friday when the Switch
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: 2 is lightly discounted. We're each going to buy one.
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: I'm going to get the Legend of Zelda remaster. And
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: you're going to get the Hellraiser game.
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: And if anyone wants to maybe... Sponsor that. Sponsor that.
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: If anyone wants to send us to Switch 2s or
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: someone works at Nintendo. Sign up for the DMs. Women
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: in STEM, trans gamers, we need your support.
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: We do.
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: Let's talk about food because we had some really lovely
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: culinary experiences.
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: I don't know if I had lovely culinary experiences.
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: No, you actually got very sick after eating Olive Garden.
• 41:30
  Speaker 2: And I mean, there was nothing that we ate that
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: made me feel good. Let's be clear.
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: No, we were both.
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: There was nothing we ate that made me feel good afterward.
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: We were bricked up all weekend. And I don't just
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: mean that we were horny. We were unable to shit.
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: We could not shit all weekend. There was nary an
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: ounce of fiber to be found anywhere in Orlando. What
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: I did appreciate was that our last meal with my sisters,
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: we went to Outback Steakhouse and we had a waiter there.
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: who did something that a waiter has not done to
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: me in a while, which was troll me. When I
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: asked for bread, the waiter pretended that Outback no longer
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: served bread.
• 42:09
  Speaker 2: They were like, oh, we don't do that anymore.
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: And then, of course, you know, he came back later
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: with a tray full of bread. But I would have
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: imagined that that kind of joke would end before he
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: left the table. But he would say, oh, I'm just kidding.
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: I'm going to get the bread. But he fully walked
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: away for a couple minutes. Yes.
• 42:27
  Speaker 2: And Rose even said she was like, I think I
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: just saw some bread. And he goes, that was a
• 42:33
  Speaker 2: baked potato. Lie.
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: He gaslit me. He gaslit me. And in that time
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: that he was away, we could have been doing anything.
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: We could have been leaving a Yelp review. We could
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: have been calling corporate on his ass. Fran thought he
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: was hot, weirdly.
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: I thought he was a little hot.
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: I did not agree. I thought they were much sexier people.
• 42:52
  Speaker 2: I think that he had a kind of swag.
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: In the lines that we were at, there were sexier
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: go-go dancers at Southern Nights, the gay nightclub that we
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: went to with my sisters. Love my experience at Southern Nights.
• 43:04
  Speaker 2: Love my experience.
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: Okay, I had fun. It's kind of like how you
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: felt about the haunted houses. I did not. enjoy it
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: i would not go back it.
• 43:15
  Speaker 2: Had some of the worst i don't think i would
• 43:16
  Speaker 2: go back it had some of the worst you literally
• 43:19
  Speaker 2: said to my sisters that you were going back the
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: next time you were in orlando oh yeah okay okay
• 43:23
  Speaker 2: maybe i mean well here's the thing is like if
• 43:25
  Speaker 2: all my friends were going i would go i don't
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: think i would go on my own accord i don't
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: think i would go by myself.
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: Under what circumstances would all your friends be going They want.
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: To go to the Mecca of, uh, gay bars in Florida.
• 43:40
  Speaker 2: That's what, I mean, it's not really, it's a.
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: Great place to go. If you want to, um, be
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: in the rain surrounded by literal teenagers, because yes, it
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: has an 18 plus section.
• 43:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Was it 18 plus night or was it the section?
• 43:53
  Speaker 2: It has a section that is 18 plus. It was,
• 43:56
  Speaker 2: that's so crazy to me. It was so discomforting. And yeah,
• 44:01
  Speaker 2: I'm just like, um, uh, Okay, were the drag shows
• 44:06
  Speaker 2: in the 18 plus section or no? Was that a
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: separate section?
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: I don't... Actually, I think maybe the 18 plus section
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: was just the area with the pool tables and then Stiffy's,
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: the sort of dark, sexy go-go bar.
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: There were like three bars inside this bar.
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: Which had really hot dancers, one of whom... all at
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: varying levels of being able to dance and attractiveness. There
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: was one who was a really good dancer, but had
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: a very unfortunate goatee. There was a straight one who
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: like could kind of dance, but was really hot and
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: like just his cock would not stop bouncing up and down.
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: And then there was an insanely sexy sort of bear
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: dancer who was the worst dancer I've ever seen. Had
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: no rhythm. And yet had a huge crowd around him
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: because of how hot he was.
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: He was extremely sexy. Look.
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: There were also just a bunch of bears making out
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: with each other. And Fran and I were like just
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: staring at them.
• 45:09
  Speaker 2: I mean.
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: Fully, fully like.
• 45:11
  Speaker 2: If they're going to give a show.
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: Perving. Well, their cocks were not out. No, our cocks
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: were out.
• 45:16
  Speaker 2: Oh. If they're going to give a show, we're going
• 45:19
  Speaker 2: to watch. Yeah. There were three bars inside of the
• 45:23
  Speaker 2: Southern Nights kind of bar. And. Stiffy's was the one
• 45:27
  Speaker 2: that felt most like a New York bar. It felt
• 45:30
  Speaker 2: the most adult... Or a Manhattan bar, I would say.
• 45:34
  Speaker 2: I also want to say.
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: A Hell's Kitchen bar.
• 45:37
  Speaker 2: We saw Roxy Andrews perform at Southern Nights, her home bar,
• 45:41
  Speaker 2: which is like seeing Jesus Christ in Bethlehem on Christmas Day.
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: It was literally such a... We were so lucky to
• 45:52
  Speaker 2: witness that.
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: And also... She sucked.
• 45:57
  Speaker 2: Well, okay. So here's something, and this is, if you've
• 45:59
  Speaker 2: ever been to like the Palace in Miami or like
• 46:03
  Speaker 2: other drag bars in Florida, something that I've noticed as
• 46:09
  Speaker 2: a connoisseur of drag, I've seen drag in many different
• 46:12
  Speaker 2: places across the country and across the world. Something that
• 46:15
  Speaker 2: I've noticed specifically about Florida drag is that it is
• 46:20
  Speaker 2: customary and perfectly acceptable for a queen to lip-sync the
• 46:27
  Speaker 2: first verse, maybe the chorus, and then after that, kind
• 46:31
  Speaker 2: of stop and just lightly lip-sync while mostly walking around
• 46:37
  Speaker 2: the room and collecting tips like this. And it wasn't
• 46:41
  Speaker 2: like a... Usually, when you watch drag, a queen will
• 46:46
  Speaker 2: reserve the beats of the song or the kind of
• 46:49
  Speaker 2: in-media res moments to collect tips and then return to lip-syncing.
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: No. No.
• 46:55
  Speaker 2: It is an Orlando queen or a Florida queen knows
• 46:59
  Speaker 2: that in their culture, it is perfectly acceptable to kind
• 47:03
  Speaker 2: of stop lip syncing and just walk around the bar
• 47:08
  Speaker 2: collecting tips like a banker. Like it was truly incredible
• 47:13
  Speaker 2: to watch. I love the people, love the culture in Orlando, Florida.
• 47:17
  Speaker 2: No shade. But also watching Roxy Andrews do that, a
• 47:22
  Speaker 2: little underwhelming.
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: In a rainbow jumpsuit with a rainbow umbrella, lip-syncing, quote-unquote
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: lip-syncing to Umbrella by Rihanna.
• 47:30
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: The one queen who was giving more than all the
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: other queens was the one who did the Hannah Montana
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: mega mix. Yes. And I did really appreciate her for that.
• 47:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, she looked good.
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: But all in all, what a beautiful, stunning trip to Florida.
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: I can't wait for us to go back. We had
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: such a good time. Let's talk about.
• 47:49
  Speaker 2: In our last 10 minutes.
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, our last 10 minutes. Let's talk briefly about a
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: new cartoon that Fran forced me to watch.
• 48:00
  Speaker 2: Okay, please. Force you? You would have, should have watched
• 48:04
  Speaker 2: it anyways because this series is taking over my Twitter feed.
• 48:10
  Speaker 2: I don't know what it's doing for your Twitter feed.
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: It's not represented at all.
• 48:14
  Speaker 2: I have to tell you that.
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: But I'm also not checking Twitter like that.
• 48:18
  Speaker 2: We here at Like A Virgin, we care about Avatar
• 48:20
  Speaker 2: The Last Airbender. We care about the universe. We had
• 48:23
  Speaker 2: discussed the Avatar Aang movie that came out earlier this year,
• 48:27
  Speaker 2: saying its praises. There's a new series out called Avatar
• 48:32
  Speaker 2: Seven Havens on Paramount Plus that is delivering what I
• 48:39
  Speaker 2: really needed an airbender, a kind of bender franchise to deliver,
• 48:44
  Speaker 2: which is a primary character who is a homosexual. And
• 48:50
  Speaker 2: not just homosexual, as Jay, this character, is. But Jay
• 48:57
  Speaker 2: is in a quite radical, maybe perhaps first of its kind, representationally,
• 49:04
  Speaker 2: femme for femme relationship with another character named Datu.
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: I don't think his boyfriend is femme. His boyfriend is
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: a beefy, beefy guy. He does have kind of a
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: queeny voice.
• 49:17
  Speaker 2: Are you telling me that there's no such thing as
• 49:20
  Speaker 2: beefy femmes? Hello.
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: Hello, Funky Kong.
• 49:23
  Speaker 2: Hello, Funky Kong. Hello, me. Hello. Second of all, Datu
• 49:28
  Speaker 2: has earrings in both ears and they're like full studs
• 49:33
  Speaker 2: and also is a baker. Okay.
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: You can be a mask baker.
• 49:40
  Speaker 2: Or you can be a femme baker. I think that
• 49:42
  Speaker 2: they are both beefy femmes. I think it is a
• 49:45
  Speaker 2: femme for femme relationship. The virgins who've watched the show
• 49:48
  Speaker 2: can agree or disagree with me. Get into it. But look,
• 49:52
  Speaker 2: aside from the thirst that I have for these characters,
• 49:57
  Speaker 2: Jay has a relationship with a character named Cardick that.
• 50:05
  Speaker 1: Emphasis on dick.
• 50:08
  Speaker 2: That Rose... It is so like a virgin coded like
• 50:12
  Speaker 2: what they have. It is so daddy son, is it not?
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's giving family dick. Boots. It's giving say uncle.
• 50:20
  Speaker 2: Do you think you could describe the plot as you
• 50:23
  Speaker 2: did watch the first three episodes?
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: No, I've watched all six episodes because you forced me to.
• 50:28
  Speaker 2: Thank you.
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: And I will not be watching more.
• 50:31
  Speaker 2: Oh, really? Okay, tell me why. Well, tell me the
• 50:35
  Speaker 2: plot first and then tell me why.
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: The plot is that A couple hundred years after Legend
• 50:41
  Speaker 1: of Korra, which already took place after Aang's lifetime, we
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: are now in a sort of post-apocalyptic world in which
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: everyone believes that Korra kind of led to the destruction
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: of society as we know it. And the survivors live
• 51:03
  Speaker 1: in these seven havens. All benders are forcefully conscripted into
• 51:09
  Speaker 1: paramilitary service. And there are two twin airbenders.
• 51:18
  Speaker 2: Avatars.
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: Twin avatars who are from the Earthbending Kingdom who discover
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: each other as they have been living with no memory
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: of their pasts.
• 51:30
  Speaker 2: And their discovery of each other is a very like,
• 51:34
  Speaker 2: The Parent Trap.
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 51:35
  Speaker 2: It's like, your birthday's October 11th? Like, it was so, like,
• 51:40
  Speaker 2: oh my god, like, your parents met on a cruise ship,
• 51:42
  Speaker 2: my parents met on... Like, it was very, like, exactly
• 51:45
  Speaker 2: The Parent Trap in a way that I found so satiating.
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: Why I don't love it and won't be watching anymore
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: is because the show did remind me that Avatar as
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: a franchise is, first and foremost, primarily for children. And...
• 52:04
  Speaker 1: The reason, and you know, I watched Avatar The Last
• 52:07
  Speaker 1: Airbender in COVID. I don't think I would have watched
• 52:10
  Speaker 1: it under other circumstances. I'm so glad I did. It's incredible.
• 52:14
  Speaker 1: But I did watch the subsequent Avatar media because of
• 52:20
  Speaker 1: my appreciation for that original series.
• 52:22
  Speaker 2: You watched Legend of Korra.
• 52:23
  Speaker 1: And Legend of Korra because it continued that story. I
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: watched the Avatar Aang movie because it had those characters
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: who I care about. This show... It takes place so
• 52:35
  Speaker 1: long after the canon that I care about. It doesn't
• 52:39
  Speaker 1: feature any of those characters. And it's giving. It's a
• 52:43
  Speaker 1: show for children. And it's just, it's simply not for me.
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: I watched it for you so we could discuss. I
• 52:49
  Speaker 1: wanted to support you. You liked Korra? I liked Korra.
• 52:53
  Speaker 2: Korra's much more adult, I think, than these other two.
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: It is. And I, like, while I did appreciate it,
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: Korra was just like, I think the first couple seasons
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: are a bit rough. And I just like generally didn't really.
• 53:09
  Speaker 2: I'm in the middle of watching it. Does it finish
• 53:11
  Speaker 2: off nicely? Or like what are the parts that you
• 53:13
  Speaker 2: liked about Korra?
• 53:14
  Speaker 1: I did like the end of Korra. Yeah, it's now
• 53:22
  Speaker 1: been a while. Like I watched it six years ago,
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: so I don't truly remember the things that I liked
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: about Korra.
• 53:28
  Speaker 2: Did you read the statement from... Janet Varney, the voice
• 53:32
  Speaker 2: of Korra after she watched Avatar Seven Havens.
• 53:36
  Speaker 1: No, what'd she say?
• 53:37
  Speaker 2: It's in the document if you want to be.
• 53:40
  Speaker 2: I was like, I'm sorry. I was like laughing because.
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: It was so dramatic. Why don't you read it? Or
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: do you want me to read it?
• 53:46
  Speaker 2: It's quite long.
• 53:47
  Speaker 1: But yeah, I'm going to read it.
• 53:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah, read it. Okay.
• 53:50
  Speaker 1: I sobbed through this pilot episode. I was shattered. I
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: cannot emphasize it enough. I finished it and my partner
• 53:56
  Speaker 1: was like, so? And I was like, I can't even
• 53:59
  Speaker 1: tell you what happened. I'm so upset, crying. And I
• 54:02
  Speaker 1: was like, I'm so worried about all the people that
• 54:05
  Speaker 1: love Cora and already defend Cora. And I had to
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: go back and watch with fresh eyes after I had
• 54:09
  Speaker 1: deeply grieved. I know we don't know what will happen
• 54:12
  Speaker 1: and I want to keep the faith, but who knows?
• 54:15
  Speaker 1: But just for me, watching children talk about her as
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: if she's a monster was heartbreaking. I mean, it really hurt.
• 54:19
  Speaker 1: I'm not her, but I know what she means to
• 54:21
  Speaker 1: some people and it just really hurt. Ma'am, this is
• 54:25
  Speaker 1: a Wendy's.
• 54:26
  Speaker 2: This is a Wendy's.
• 54:26
  Speaker 1: Touch grass. Also, it's very clear that these people have
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: been misled that this is like propaganda and that the
• 54:35
  Speaker 1: series will deconstruct this notion that Korra is a villain.
• 54:39
  Speaker 1: So like, girl, grow up. It's a show for children.
• 54:42
  Speaker 2: The fact that they don't like, the fact that the
• 54:45
  Speaker 2: kind of history has been passed down to villainize Korra is,
• 54:49
  Speaker 2: to me, so interesting. Like, that's dark. That's like, true
• 54:54
  Speaker 2: to life.
• 54:56
  Speaker 1: Yes, it's very much building on the cultural sentiment around Korra,
• 55:00
  Speaker 1: which was so nasty at the time it was airing
• 55:03
  Speaker 1: and since. Korra is the most hated part of the
• 55:07
  Speaker 1: Avatar franchise. So to me, it feels more like meta
• 55:11
  Speaker 1: commentary on that.
• 55:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah. And also, girl, you're like, I know I'm not her.
• 55:18
  Speaker 2: It's like, girl, do you?
• 55:20
  Speaker 1: But do you?
• 55:21
  Speaker 2: But do you? Because this statement would really suggest that
• 55:26
  Speaker 2: people think this about you, which they don't. You are
• 55:29
  Speaker 2: a voice actor. This is a character.
• 55:31
  Speaker 1: Man, this is a Wendy's. It's really, man, this is
• 55:35
  Speaker 1: a Wendy's. It's really like we all moved on and
• 55:39
  Speaker 1: the party ended at 6 a.m. and this guy's still
• 55:43
  Speaker 1: here dancing. It's like just, girl, this is a character
• 55:48
  Speaker 1: you played. What, like 15 years ago? Maybe more?
• 55:53
  Speaker 2: So long ago. And also just, like, homophobic. If you
• 55:57
  Speaker 2: don't like this series, then you hate queer people. Because
• 56:03
  Speaker 2: this is the first canonically faggot-bending franchise... And I think
• 56:11
  Speaker 2: that I'm honestly, I really think you should reconsider and
• 56:14
  Speaker 2: I think you should keep watching Rose so that we
• 56:15
  Speaker 2: can talk about it. I'm not going to. I don't
• 56:16
  Speaker 2: want to talk about it on the show. I literally
• 56:17
  Speaker 2: just want to talk about it with you personally.
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  Speaker 1: I think you can find plenty other people to be
• 56:21
  Speaker 1: in community with. Okay.
• 56:22
  Speaker 2: Well, then I guess.
• 56:23
  Speaker 1: In regards to Avatar.
• 56:24
  Speaker 2: I will be sending my Jay Cardick Datu porn to
• 56:28
  Speaker 2: someone else then.
• 56:29
  Speaker 1: Okay. Well, here's the thing.
• 56:31
  Speaker 2: You're interested in the porn.
• 56:33
  Speaker 1: No, I need to know how old Jay is supposed
• 56:35
  Speaker 1: to be and you need to know that.
• 56:37
  Speaker 2: He's in his 20s. It's like a chorus situation where
• 56:40
  Speaker 2: they're in their 20s.
• 56:41
  Speaker 1: Are you sure?
• 56:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I was reading about it.
• 56:43
  Speaker 1: Okay, okay. Then you can keep sending me the porn. Yeah, please.
• 56:47
  Speaker 2: Girl, please. Jay and Datu. Sorry, Jay and Cardick. Cardick
• 56:53
  Speaker 2: is hot. Please say something positive.
• 56:55
  Speaker 1: About the show.
• 56:55
  Speaker 2: And please talk about how fine he is.
• 56:58
  Speaker 1: Cardick is so hot. He's a silver fox airbender daddy.
• 57:03
  Speaker 2: Daddy with a sexy voice.
• 57:06
  Speaker 1: Incredibly sexy. He's a sort of mentor figure.
• 57:10
  Speaker 2: He's constantly putting both hands on Jay's shoulders.
• 57:13
  Speaker 1: And I'm sure he likes to put those hands other
• 57:16
  Speaker 1: places as well.
• 57:17
  Speaker 2: Baby, the erotic fan art that I have sent you
• 57:22
  Speaker 2: Some of which is unfortunately generated by AI, but a
• 57:25
  Speaker 2: lot of it is original art. Let me tell you.
• 57:28
  Speaker 1: As a podcast, we do not support AI.
• 57:29
  Speaker 2: We do not support AI, but I do support artistry.
• 57:33
  Speaker 2: And the artistry, baby, it's giving. And it will continue
• 57:38
  Speaker 2: to give. And thank you to every single Avatar Seven
• 57:45
  Speaker 2: Havens fan artist. Because I need more porn.
• 57:50
  Speaker 1: Thank you. I hope you enjoy the rest of the series.
• 57:55
  Speaker 1: You can maybe tell me how it ends. I don't
• 57:56
  Speaker 1: know that I'll care.
• 57:57
  Speaker 2: We'll see.
• 57:59
  Speaker 1: Do we want to do some quick recs before we
• 58:02
  Speaker 1: sign off, or should we call it and save those
• 58:05
  Speaker 1: for another time?
• 58:06
  Speaker 2: I think we should save our recs for another time,
• 58:09
  Speaker 2: but we do have some homework for the virgins.
• 58:12
  Speaker 1: Is that right? Yes, we do.
• 58:14
  Speaker 2: We are next week discussing Clayface, the DC... horror film
• 58:21
  Speaker 2: about the iconic Batman villain, Clayface, as represented in the
• 58:27
  Speaker 2: Harley Quinn series on HBO fabulously. A very different depiction
• 58:34
  Speaker 2: in this film. We're very excited to see it. It
• 58:36
  Speaker 2: has gotten some pretty sickening reviews. So Rose and I
• 58:41
  Speaker 2: will be seeing it this weekend, discussing next week. Go
• 58:43
  Speaker 2: and see Clayface, Dear Virgins.
• 58:45
  Speaker 1: We will also tonight be seeing Paranormal Activity on Broadway. Which,
• 58:50
  Speaker 1: paranormal activist she and i'm sure we will discuss that
• 58:54
  Speaker 1: next week possibly in like i at least will be
• 58:57
  Speaker 1: bringing in some of the context of the paranormal activity
• 59:00
  Speaker 1: film franchise i'm gonna have to watch two and three
• 59:03
  Speaker 1: how many are there there are like six oh well
• 59:07
  Speaker 1: two and three they're all they're all a tight 90
• 59:11
  Speaker 1: minutes which is incredible.
• 59:13
  Speaker 2: Do you remember what your favorites are aside.
• 59:15
  Speaker 1: My favorite is three it's three my favorites are one
• 59:18
  Speaker 1: and three i think two is skippable.
• 59:20
  Speaker 2: Oh good to know okay so i'll watch three before we.
• 59:25
  Speaker 1: Speak okay And so virgins, if you would like to
• 59:28
  Speaker 1: follow along with that conversation, you can watch those as well.
• 59:32
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• 1:00:09
  Speaker 1: We love you. And we will be back next week
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 1: with more Thrills and Chills.
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 2: Bye. Bye.