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- 0:00Speaker 1: What's up, everyone, and welcome to another episode of the
- 0:03Epstein Chronicles. One of the most effective tools that was
- 0:08wielded and used by Jeffrey Epstein and those associated to
- 0:13him was the NDA. And the whole entire point behind
- 0:18the NDA, obviously was to keep things quiet, to make
- 0:22sure that nobody else knew what was going on, and
- 0:26Jeffrey Epstein effectively wielded these NDAs as a shield, and
- 0:31his strategy was very effective. It kept a lot of
- 0:34people from coming forward, and it kept a lot of
- 0:37truth from being known. And now, according to sources, the
- 0:41House Oversight Committee has now started to chew on the
- 0:45idea of hitting some people with subpoenas that might be
- 0:49involved with these NDAs. And remember, criminal cord is where
- 0:54NDA is going to die. You're not going to be
- 0:57protected by an NDA in a criminal matter. So if
- 1:01you're accused of sexually assaulting somebody, you can't fall back
- 1:06on the NDA and use that as your, you know, shield,
- 1:10That's not what the NDA is. An NDA just means
- 1:14you can't disclose to the public or anybody else you're
- 1:18a relationship status with whoever you sign the NDA with.
- 1:23It's not some kind of repellent if you will, that
- 1:27keeps you clean and free from state or federal charges.
- 1:32That's not what an NDA is. And if somebody is
- 1:34referred for a criminal matter, then the NDA goes directly
- 1:37out the window. The problem is, nobody's been referred criminally, right,
- 1:43well besides Frederick Flecai and mister Levigne. But besides that,
- 1:47we haven't seen anybody get referred to justice to have
- 1:51a case opened up on them. But up until this point,
- 1:54the Justice Department has shown zero desire to pursue people
- 1:58in a criminal nature. So I don't know if that's
- 2:01going to change because the referral it should, But considering
- 2:06who's running the show over here, I have my doubts.
- 2:09So today's article was published by Politico and the headline
- 2:13the secret settlements protecting Jeffrey Epstein's friends. Oh, there's plenty
- 2:17of those. This article was authored by Jacob Shamsian. Members
- 2:23of the House Oversight Committee have discussed issuing subpoenas to
- 2:26people who could testify about secret settlements between some of
- 2:30Jeffrey Epstein's friends and his accusers. Well, we know for
- 2:33a fact Leon Black is one of them. I think
- 2:36that we can state that definitively. We've heard on record
- 2:41about the NDA that Guzelle Ganievas signed and the other
- 2:45girls that were allegedly with Leon Black that they had
- 2:48to sign, So I have no doubt that Leon Black
- 2:53is one of these associates that they're talking about. Some
- 2:59of Epstein's accusers have signed confidential pre litigation settlements with
- 3:02friends of the sex offender whom they have also accused
- 3:06of misconduct, according to three people with direct knowledge of
- 3:09such settlements, including Brad Edwards, an attorney who has represented
- 3:14more than two hundred of Epstein's accusers. And remember, the
- 3:17whole entire idea was to make it go away. That's
- 3:20what they wanted to do. They didn't want us to
- 3:23talk about this. They never wanted this to come back
- 3:26up and rear its ugly head. These sons of bitches
- 3:29thought they got away with it. They thought that they
- 3:32had such a great campaign out there that they had
- 3:35people believing that everything's just a bunch of bs. But
- 3:39when you have the documentation that's been released and you
- 3:42have the witness statements that we have, I honestly have
- 3:45to question your integrity or your intelligence if you still
- 3:48can't grasp what was going on. These settlements include non
- 3:53disclosure agreements that prohibit them from speaking publicly about their experiences.
- 3:58Edwards and the other people told Business Insider part of
- 4:01the Axel Springer Global Reporters network, which includes Politico, The
- 4:06houseoversych Committee's investigating the Justice Department's handling of its Epstein investigations,
- 4:12and its scheduled to conduct voluntary interviews with associates of
- 4:15Epstein in the coming weeks. Those conversations won't be under
- 4:19oath and participants won't be legally compelled to answer every question.
- 4:26Refer to the episode from yesterday. This is my biggest problem.
- 4:30There's no teeth. There is nothing that is an enforcement
- 4:34mechanism here. So we're getting the run around. And I mean,
- 4:38they couldn't even be courteous enough to give us a
- 4:40reach around while we're getting the run around. None of
- 4:43this should be voluntary. The days for volunteering information have
- 4:47come and gone. These people could have come forward at
- 4:51any time without this whole entire thing blowing up, right,
- 4:54But remember they chose not to. They chose to remain quiet,
- 4:58and only under great pressure have they come forward. Subpoena
- 5:04could require witnesses to answer questions even if they have
- 5:06signed a non disclosure agreement, though the Committee would need
- 5:10the majority support to issue one. A spokesperson for Committee
- 5:14Democrats said that its members have discussed issuing the subpoenas.
- 5:18A spokesperson for Committee Republicans, which holds the majority, said
- 5:22they are aware of the settlements between Epstein's accusers and disassociates,
- 5:27and declined to comment further. Yeah, because it's a whitewash.
- 5:30I know people don't want to hear that shit. I
- 5:33know there's a lot of people out there that are
- 5:34you know, Republicans swing right, and they don't want to
- 5:37believe that they're lawmakers, the people they respect, the people
- 5:42they voted for, would be this insidious, but they are. Look,
- 5:48these people are completely captured by Donald Trump, and the
- 5:51vast majority of them do not have the courage to
- 5:53go against the grain. So instead they'll just continue to
- 5:56break dance through a minefield so that they can please
- 6:00Donald Trump, because they know the backlash that's come in
- 6:03their way if they don't look at the message that's
- 6:06been sent. So I doubt these Republicans are going to
- 6:10grow a backbone anytime soon and stand up to Donald
- 6:13Trump when it comes to Jeffrey Epstein. It's unclear how
- 6:18many Epstein accusers signed pre litigation settlements and with how
- 6:22many of his associates. No public records for them exist.
- 6:26One person told Business Insider they had direct knowledge of
- 6:29settlements with four of Epstein's friends who were accused of
- 6:33sexual misconduct by more than twenty women. Between them, the
- 6:37person said, the women accused those men of coercing them
- 6:40into non consensual and abusive sexual encounters. Well, there's a
- 6:44whole lot of that going on, and a whole lot
- 6:47of people in Jeffrey Epstein's world were engaging in that shit,
- 6:52whether with girls that were provided or introduced to them
- 6:55by Jeffrey Epstein or otherwise. When I tell you about
- 6:58fellow travelers, that's what I mean. How many of you
- 7:02hang out with people that you don't have shit in
- 7:04common with? Not very many, right, Maybe, like you know,
- 7:10your spouse's best friend's husband that you're forced to go to,
- 7:14you know, wine tasting with you don't really care for them, Okay, great,
- 7:17But the vast majority of times you're gonna hang out
- 7:20with people that you have stuff in common with, people
- 7:22that you know you enjoy their company, their conversation, and
- 7:26you guys have interests that you share in common. A
- 7:32settlement isn't necessarily an indication of wrongdoing. No, we're just
- 7:35paying out money because you know why not. That's what
- 7:38rich people do. They don't just crush people in court.
- 7:41They pay out money. Like what planet are we on?
- 7:46When's the last time a rich person reached into their
- 7:49pocket just to hand out some money. While parties can
- 7:55use settlements to resolve civil legal claims, they do not
- 7:58have the power to block criminal proceedings. That's true, and
- 8:02that's why I tell you that criminal court is where
- 8:05the NDAs go to die. The second it becomes a
- 8:07criminal matter, that NDA doesn't mean shit. The House Oversight
- 8:12Committee raised the issue of secret settlements in an interview
- 8:15with Bill Gates earlier this month. A Republican staffer asked
- 8:18the former Microsoft CEO if he had security a settlement
- 8:22in connection to Jeffrey Epstein, Ghlaine Maxwell, or any of
- 8:26their victims. According to a transcript made public on Tuesday,
- 8:29Gates said he had not. Well, that's cool. I guess
- 8:33we can just believe Bill Gates right, another paragon of truth.
- 8:39The existence of these settlements came into the spotlight because
- 8:42of a court filing by Maxwell, who was convicted in
- 8:45twenty twenty one for her role in grooming and recruiting
- 8:48girls for Epstein to sexually abuse. In December, Maxwell filed
- 8:52a petition for a writ of habeas corpus, a last
- 8:56ditch attempt to get out of prison after the US
- 8:58Supreme Court rejected her appeal. Her filing cited a twenty
- 9:03twenty four podcast interview in which Edward said that his
- 9:06clients could have brought lawsuits against between ten and fifteen
- 9:10of Epstein's friends. Some of those men signed confidential settlements
- 9:14with the clients over allegations of mistreatment. Edward said, and
- 9:18now Maxwell has launched another hell Mary once again trying
- 9:21to rely on the NPA to get her out of
- 9:24the clink. And if you were wondering why I talk
- 9:28so much about the NPA and why it should be
- 9:30done away with, this is why. But sure, let's talk
- 9:33about bullshit. Let's continue to spin our wills in neutral
- 9:37and let these people get away with it. As we
- 9:39continue to waste time on bullshit, salacious nonsense that goes nowhere.
- 9:43There are still people that I personally think should have
- 9:45been exposed, but not at the expense of your client's wishes,
- 9:49Edward said on The Interesting Lawyer's podcast episode, an interview
- 9:54that had largely flown under the radar. Edward said that
- 9:58in those cases his clients want it to move on
- 10:01rather than file a public lawsuit. I'm not a big
- 10:03fan of confidentiality, but it serves a purpose in a
- 10:06certain circumstance, and this was the right circumstance, he said
- 10:10on the podcast. Look, it's easy for all of us
- 10:12to say what other people should do, but until you're
- 10:15in that position, I don't think we really have a
- 10:19leg to stand on because we don't know. We don't
- 10:23know the trauma that people have went through, we don't
- 10:25know the financial burden that has been placed upon people.
- 10:29So when people are signing these NDAs and they get
- 10:31paid out, I kind of understand why. Right now, the
- 10:35selfish part of me, the part that wants justice no
- 10:39matter what, hates that kind of shit because it keeps
- 10:44everything private. We never get to discovery, we never get
- 10:47to trial, we never get to a point where we
- 10:49really know what's going on. So I've never been a
- 10:52big fan of confidentiality agreements. Maxwell argued in our court
- 10:59filing that these men could equally be considered as co
- 11:02conspirators and that she was denied a fair trial because
- 11:05she would have called those men as witnesses had she
- 11:07known about the settlements. Bullshit. You played a logistical part,
- 11:12Glenn Maxwell. Not only were you taking part in the abuse,
- 11:16you were part of the enterprise. You had a leadership role.
- 11:21And that's another Rico predicate. By the way, in an
- 11:26interview with Business Insider, Edwards declined to answer questions about
- 11:29confidential settlements between his clients and Epstein's friends. He said
- 11:33that in general, Epstein had lent out about fifty girls
- 11:37and women to about thirty men from the nineties until
- 11:40his second arrest in twenty nineteen. And that sounds about
- 11:44right now. I've told you for a long time not
- 11:46to buy into the bullshit that Jeffrey Epstein was like
- 11:50Heidi Flice. That wasn't what he was doing when he
- 11:53was providing women or girls. There was a purpose. He
- 11:56was trying to gain some inroads, whether in grace, heating himself,
- 12:01or trying to get some blackmail, some compromant, whatever it
- 12:04might be. Everything was transactional. And if you think Jeffrey
- 12:07Epstein was selling some trim to make some money. You're crazy,
- 12:12That's not what it was about. The money was coming
- 12:14from all of the stealing, you know, laundering money, tax evasion,
- 12:19the whole thing. He wasn't banking dough by running girls.
- 12:25That's not what this dude was. That was just an
- 12:28aspect of it, right. That was just one of the
- 12:31many chambers, the most disturbing chamber, but one of many.
- 12:36And if you look at Jeffrey Epstein in his operation
- 12:39through just that lens, you're not going to understand the
- 12:41full scope of what's going on here. And I think
- 12:44too many people get caught up in this portion of it.
- 12:47And again, look, I get it. It is the most
- 12:50disturbing part, and it's the part where justice is most deserved.
- 12:55But I'll tell you what, Take what's deserved and put
- 12:58it in one hand and shit in the other, and
- 13:00see what you have more of In the end. We
- 13:03have to be realists, right. It's great to think that
- 13:07the whole entire house of cards is going to come
- 13:09tumbling down and everybody's going to be exposed, but that's
- 13:13not reality. Unfortunately, reality is a lot more mundane, a
- 13:18lot more boring, and that's because the money trail doesn't lie.
- 13:23There's no salacious stories, there's no side quest. The money
- 13:27trail is the money trail, and that's why they've been
- 13:30so reticent to follow it because they know that. Well,
- 13:34you think the federal government, of all people, doesn't know
- 13:36that they need to follow the dough Oh, they know.
- 13:40Some of the men were with multiple of Epstein victims
- 13:43and some were only with one, he told Business Insider.
- 13:47Epstein killed himself in jail in twenty nineteen while awaiting
- 13:51trial on sex trafficking charges. Well, well, I guess Jacob
- 13:55shamsy And has figured it out, and in his next
- 13:59article he's going to tell you how he doesn't trust
- 14:01the Trumpet administration and the government, but in this instance,
- 14:04the government's telling the truth. These people can't have it
- 14:07both ways. Either the government's bullshitting you or they're not. Okay,
- 14:12it doesn't matter which political parties in charge, both sides
- 14:16are going to do everything they can to protect the institutions.
- 14:22His death made more urgent the questions of who else
- 14:24could be held accountable for his crimes. Seven years later,
- 14:28Maxwell is the only other person in Epstein's sex trafficking
- 14:31operation charged by the Justice Department. Well, he calls it
- 14:34a trafficking operation, where's the proof of that. You have
- 14:38no proof of that, just like you have no proof
- 14:42that Jeffrey Epstein killed himself in jail, unless, of course
- 14:46you're going off of what Nicholas Tartaglioni told you. And
- 14:51if you believe that, well, maybe, just maybe you think
- 14:55that Holden Caulfield is a reliable narrator in Ketcher and
- 14:58the Rye. After Epstein's death, the Justice Department examined who
- 15:04else in his orbit may have participated in his sex
- 15:07trafficking operation. The Epstein files show that the FBI identified
- 15:12several potential co conspirators. Aside from Maxwell, most of the
- 15:16other people identified in internal FBI documents as potential co
- 15:21conspirators were also victims, girls or young women who brought
- 15:25others to Epstein. Except for a model recruiting agent, Jean
- 15:29Luke Burnaul, whom French authorities charged with rape and who
- 15:32killed himself in jail before trial, no other men in
- 15:36Epstein's vast network have faced criminal charges for sex crimes.
- 15:41When the Justice Department re examined the Epstein investigation last year,
- 15:45it concluded there was in sufficient evidence to investigate uncharged
- 15:49third parties. Well, that turned out to be a lie,
- 15:53because two people have already been referred to the Justice
- 15:56Department for investigation. Epstein frequently kept women and girls around them,
- 16:04hiring them as assistants and messuses. He offered them financial benefits,
- 16:08job opportunities, and other ways to advance their education as
- 16:12part of a grooming process. According to records released by
- 16:15the Justice Department and testimony from his accusers, he sometimes
- 16:20introduced them to his friends, and those friends sometimes sexually
- 16:23abuse them. Women have alleged in lawsuits, depositions, and interviews
- 16:27with prosecutors, according to court filings and records released by
- 16:31the Justice Department. And it's been the same story for years.
- 16:35How many people have come out and told us the
- 16:37same thing time and time again. And keep in mind,
- 16:40the same people want you to move on. I wonder why.
- 16:46Edwards and another person familiar with settlements between Epstein's friends
- 16:49and accusers both said that Epstein would send his victims
- 16:52to friends after the women had been in his orbit
- 16:56for a long time. Had to trust them, had to
- 16:59make sure that they knew their role right. And that's
- 17:03what Jeffrey Epstein was doing. He groomed these girls and
- 17:06then he'd send them to have, you know, sexual encounters
- 17:09with these guys, to be abused by these guys. And
- 17:14if they were underage, then Jeffrey Epstein had a hook
- 17:17right away. And not only that, he would have the
- 17:20girls report back anything they might have heard. And then
- 17:23you add the cameras to it, and well, you see
- 17:26what's going on here. This is a classic honeypot operation.
- 17:30That's what Epstein was up to when we're talking about
- 17:33this portion of it. Believe me, he wasn't out here
- 17:35selling girls. Bro wasn't down on the blade having girls
- 17:39walk the track. He lent out these women to people
- 17:43influential in the world economy and celebrities. One of the
- 17:46people familiar with the settlement said some of the relationships
- 17:50were consensual. Edward said in the podcast interview, there's no
- 17:53doubt that's somewhere one hundred percent. Jeffrey Epstein liked the
- 17:57muddy the waters and do you like to keep things confusing.
- 18:02Edwards said that in some cases clients told them, look,
- 18:05I have a relationship with this now very famous or
- 18:08very powerful person, and it's very good. I could call
- 18:11them on my cell phone right now. He never mistreated me.
- 18:14He didn't know what was going on. Some misconduct accusations
- 18:18against Epstein associates have played out in public, and several
- 18:22have reached large public settlements or resolutions. One Epstein victim,
- 18:26Virginia Roberts, filed a lawsuit against then Prince Andrew in
- 18:29twenty twenty one and Alan Dershowitz in twenty nineteen, alleging
- 18:34that Epstein directed her to have sex with both men.
- 18:38Both men denied the allegations and later settled the suits.
- 18:42As part of his settlement, the British Royal agreed to
- 18:45make a substantial donation to Robert's charity and recognized her
- 18:49as an established victim of abuse, without personally admitting wrongdoing.
- 18:54In Dershowitz case, both parties said the resolution didn't involve
- 18:57any payments, and Robert said she may have had made
- 19:00a mistake in identifying them. And I've told you from
- 19:03the beginning, I think Virginia was just fatigued. I think
- 19:07she had had enough at that point. Wasn't like anything
- 19:11was going to happen. Wasn't like anybody cared back then.
- 19:14I know a lot of people don't want to hear it,
- 19:15but a lot of people didn't give a fuck. A
- 19:18lot of people out here now causing havoc, raising a
- 19:20bunch of chaos, yelling and screaming, where were you at
- 19:25in twenty nineteen. The truth is a lot of people
- 19:28that are interested in this case now didn't care back then,
- 19:32and nobody can say this information wasn't out there. It was.
- 19:35The problem is the legacy media misled you. They had
- 19:41you thinking that this was some vast right wing conspiracy,
- 19:44and because of that, we lost very important time. We
- 19:48could have really made some inroads. If we had all
- 19:50the people that care about this now caring about it
- 19:52back then, there would have been a lot more arrests
- 19:55and things would have been a lot different. But too
- 19:58many people were too busy following along with salacious bullshit
- 20:03that they wanted to be true, even though they knew
- 20:06that there was no evidence to back it up. And look,
- 20:10it's not about what you know, it's about what you
- 20:12can prove, and when you're dealing with very powerful people,
- 20:15you have to enter every door that's left open. In
- 20:21court filings, media interviews, and a memoir written before her
- 20:24death last year, Roberts named other friends of Epstein with
- 20:27whom she had sex during the time Epstein sexually abused her.
- 20:31She did not sue those men. She should have, but
- 20:34unfortunately Virginia knew that the deck was stacked against her.
- 20:39Always was, always will be. Edwards, who represented Roberts, said
- 20:44her allegations weren't unique. Her experiences in terms of Epstein
- 20:48sending people out to a select group of friends were
- 20:52actually more typical than I think any of us realized.
- 20:54In two thousand and nine when Virginia first said it,
- 20:58Edwards told Business Inside her. Edwards has also represented a
- 21:02model in a lawsuit against the psychiatrist and investor Henry Jureki.
- 21:07The woman who used a Jane Do pseudonym alleged that
- 21:10she was abused by Epstein and that Epstein introduced her
- 21:13to Jireki, who raped her and treated her as his
- 21:15modern day slave. Jareki denied the allegations. The woman withdrew
- 21:20the lawsuit ten months later. In statements at the time,
- 21:23she said she believed Dureki did not mean me any harm,
- 21:27and Jereki said he never engaged in any abusive conduct
- 21:30with a complainant or any other person. Doctor Jereki has
- 21:34for some time been suffering from advanced dementia and is
- 21:37non communicative. A spokesperson for his business office, Falconwood Corporation
- 21:42told Business Insider, prior to the onset of his illness,
- 21:46doctor Jureki privately expressed deep regret over any association with
- 21:51Jeffrey Epstein. Leon Black, the former CEO of Apollo Global Management,
- 21:57paid sixty two and a half million dollars to the
- 21:59US Virgin Ida as part of a January twenty twenty
- 22:02three settlement to resolve the government's legal claims related to
- 22:06Jeffrey Epstein, whether known or unknown. Now, why would you
- 22:10do that? If you're innocent? Don't you fight that? I
- 22:14know I would. Records released by the Justice Department show
- 22:20that following Epstein's death, federal and local prosecutors in Manhattan
- 22:24examined sexual assault allegations against Black, who sent Epstein more
- 22:28than one hundred and fifty million for what Black has
- 22:31said was tax advice. Neither office brought criminal charges against Black,
- 22:36who was denied wrongdoing related to Epstein. So we're talking
- 22:40about what a quarter billion dollars in total that Leon
- 22:44Black is ponied up due to Epstein. But sure he
- 22:47has nothing to hide. Give me a break, dude. Come on,
- 22:50two hundred and fifty million dollars. That is an eye
- 22:53popping amount of money, even for a guy like Leon Black.
- 22:57Other allegations against Epstein associates have become public through interviews
- 23:01already conducted by the House Oversight Committee. Sarah Kellen a
- 23:05client of Edwards. That's crazy to even say. Remember all
- 23:10the stuff Brad Edwards had to say about Sarah Kellen
- 23:12for all these years, but now she's a client. I
- 23:16guess the payday is a pay day, and said that
- 23:21Epstein abused her for years. Told the committee in May
- 23:24that Philip Levine, who later became mayor of Miami Beach,
- 23:27sexually assaulted her while she was on a trip with Epstein.
- 23:31And she said Frederick Fokai, the celebrity hairstylist, sexually assaulted
- 23:35her before he introduced her to Epstein. And now both
- 23:38of them have been referred to the Justice Department. So
- 23:40I wonder what's going to come of that. Committee Chair
- 23:44Representative James Comer asked the Justice Department in June to
- 23:47investigate Kellen's allegations against Levin and for Kai. Chris Lasto,
- 23:52a spokesperson for Levine, told Business Insider that the intimate
- 23:56encounter with Kellen was consensual and her allegations of miss
- 24:00conduct are false. Mark Heerr, a spokesperson for FOCAI, previously
- 24:05set our allegations were categorically false and that FORCAI wasn't
- 24:09aware of Epstein sex trafficking. So it's going to be
- 24:12interesting to see what happens here. I wonder what Justice does.
- 24:16Are they going to go against the grain and actually
- 24:19do their job or are they going to stick with
- 24:22the narrative that there's nothing left to see here and
- 24:24there's nobody to prosecute. A Justice Department spokesperson told Business
- 24:29Insider that prosecutors previously determined that there was no prosecutable
- 24:34case after interviewing Kellen. The DOJ would reevaluate if the
- 24:38committee sent a formal criminal referral with additional evidence of
- 24:41any federal crime. The spokesperson said, how much more evidence
- 24:45do you need? Like, for real, why don't you just
- 24:49go to the DOJ archive the vault there and dig
- 24:52around a little bit with subpoenas. The House Oversight Committee
- 24:56could force people with NDAs to answer questions, said David Ropoulo,
- 25:01a former top lawyer on the committee. Lauren Hirsch, the
- 25:04CEO of World Without Exploitation, an organization that is advocated
- 25:09on behalf of Epstein's victims before Congress, said that the
- 25:12Committee should use subpoenas to pierce any confidentiality agreements and
- 25:17ensure that those who cause devastating harm are held accountable. Well,
- 25:21what do you know, wouldn't that be nice? But instead
- 25:24let's have him come in for a voluntary chat. Did
- 25:27you guys give him some tea, maybe a foot rub?
- 25:30What a fucking joke. Epstein acquaintance is expected to speak
- 25:35to the committee in coming weeks, including Black, Dershwitz, and
- 25:39former Barclay's CEO Just Daly, would appear for transcribed interviews,
- 25:43not subpoena depositions. As a result, they can legally decline
- 25:47to answer questions, said Ropoulo. The terms in scope of
- 25:50transcribed interviews are often negotiated between lawyers for the interview
- 25:55subject and the committee's majority party, Ropaulo said, translate the
- 26:00fix is in. Dershowitz told Business Insider he plans to
- 26:05answer every question and welcomes the subpoena. A representative for
- 26:09a Black decline to comment. Attorneys for Staley didn't respond.
- 26:14The committee could also issue friendly subpoenas to Epstein's accusers,
- 26:18much like Congress routinely uses to protect corporate whistleblowers who
- 26:22have NDAs. In that case, the committee would likely need
- 26:25the cooperation of the victim. A spokesperson for House Oversight
- 26:30Democrats said the committee will let victims decide whether to
- 26:33appear before the committee. Edwards, the attorney representing Epstein's accusers,
- 26:38said that the vast majority of victims want to move
- 26:40on with their lives because of the media frenzy around
- 26:43the Epstein story. Look, I get it, I'd want to
- 26:48move on too, but I remember a time when Brad
- 26:53Edwards was begging for this kind of coverage. What's changed?
- 26:59What is chane with mister Brad Edwards and what are
- 27:02his motivations? Because the only way this story is ever
- 27:08going to really break is if people know what's up.
- 27:12And I thought that was the entire goal, but maybe
- 27:16it's not anymore. For Brad Edwards. Dude had his payday, right,
- 27:20all these lawyers got a fat bag, He pointed to
- 27:24the ongoing British media interest following a BBC interview in
- 27:28January in which Edwards alleged that one of his clients,
- 27:31when she was a young woman, was sent by Epstein
- 27:33to spend the night with then Prince Andrew at his residence,
- 27:36Royal Lodge, and was given a tour of Buckingham Palace.
- 27:40Representatives for Andrew Mantbatten Windsor didn't respond to Business Insider's
- 27:44request for comment. The prime example is Prince Andrew Madness.
- 27:49Edwards said there were victims that would have cooperated not
- 27:53only civilly but criminally, and they want nothing to do
- 27:56with it anymore because the British press calls me them. Ever, well,
- 28:01what did you expect, man, That's what happens if you
- 28:04come forward in a case like this, You're gonna make
- 28:06an allegation against Prince Andrew and then think nobody is
- 28:10gonna recover it, or report it or be on it.
- 28:13In the words of Taiwan Lanister Madness Rank Madness, and
- 28:17I would contend that the more interests the better. Now,
- 28:21of course that means there's going to be crazy people
- 28:23out there that try and contact people that are part
- 28:25of the story. But I think that the only way
- 28:30to get to the bottom of what happened and who
- 28:32was involved is if we expose it all. But here's
- 28:35the truth. If the people who were harmed don't want
- 28:39the story to go any further and they don't want
- 28:41to talk about it, then that's up to them. Nobody
- 28:44can compel them to do so. Remember, they're the ones
- 28:48that have to deal with the repercussions. They're the ones
- 28:50that have to continue to live their life. They're the
- 28:52ones that have to deal with whatever kind of blowback comes.
- 28:56So I completely understand. But at the same time, the
- 29:01only way that we're ever gonna hold anybody accountable is
- 29:05if people are pointing fingers and there are actual people
- 29:08to investigate. Right. So, what I'm getting from Brad Edwards
- 29:11here is kind of concerning. Is he saying that he
- 29:15wants to move on to now? Is that what he's
- 29:17basically saying, Oh, well, the media frenzies too much. It's
- 29:22time to just, you know, move on, not talk about
- 29:26it anymore, Cess Levie. Is that what he's saying, Because
- 29:31I'll tell you what my answer to him is the
- 29:33same one I have to the Trump Justice Department. Get stuffed.
- 29:37We're not moving on. We want answers, Oni, And if
- 29:42you become an impediment, then you're part of the problem.
- 29:47I know you're out here trying to get that bag,
- 29:48you know, defending Sarah Kellen Vickers and shit. But this
- 29:52whole like switch that we see with Brad Edwards as
- 29:54of late is pretty concerning, and I wonder what the
- 29:58motivation is because my man's tune has certainly changed. So
- 30:02I'm pretty curious to see what the strategy is going
- 30:05to be moving forward for Brad Edwards and his clients,
- 30:09and like usual, will be here every step of the
- 30:11way as it all goes down. All of the information
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