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Tuesday October 6 2026 | Cornell, Pastors and Politics, France School Protests · The M&M Experience

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  Speaker 2: And I've got a little bit of that today. In fact,
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  Speaker 2: in a couple of minutes, we're going to talk about
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  Speaker 2: clergy and politics, talk about pastors and how political they
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  Speaker 2: should get or not, because I had Dr. Robert Jeffress
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  Speaker 2: on this morning, his brand new book, Divine invasions. There
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  Speaker 2: you go. From Dr. Robert Jeffress at First Baptist in Dallas.
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  Speaker 2: And we talked a little bit about the Venn diagram
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  Speaker 2: between being a clergyman and weighing in on politics and
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  Speaker 2: stuff like that. So that was a portion of today's
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  Speaker 2: show that I'll carry into the podcast realm. But the
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  Speaker 2: first thing I'm going to try to do today, and
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  Speaker 2: the key word is try. I have not, I don't
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  Speaker 2: know if I've talked about this on the radio at all.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think so. Part of it is because it's
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  Speaker 2: just so sensitive and touchy and it's hard to know
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  Speaker 2: exactly how to feel. And it's kind of complicated. And
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  Speaker 2: if I started to do it, it probably deserves its
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  Speaker 2: own hour. So, of course, I'm going to do it
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  Speaker 2: here in about four or five minutes. But people have
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  Speaker 2: been asking me about it. So I figure I'll go
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  Speaker 2: ahead and riff about it for a little bit. And
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  Speaker 2: that is, of course, the Cornell rape case. Or is it?
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  Speaker 2: Or is it a rape case? The events were in
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  Speaker 2: October of 2024 at Cornell's Chi Phi Fraternity House. Don't
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  Speaker 2: get me started on Greek life. It's great. Your kids
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  Speaker 2: are in it. They're having a great time, I'm sure.
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  Speaker 2: I never got it. I was at the University of
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  Speaker 2: Maryland in the late 70s. I somehow found a way
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  Speaker 2: to find parties and relationships and girls without having my
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  Speaker 2: buns duct-taped together and stuck in a trunk after drinking
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  Speaker 2: a bottle of gin. I somehow managed to have life
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  Speaker 2: without hazing. But hey, that's just me. At this particular
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  Speaker 2: frat party, this woman, who now goes by Jane Doe,
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  Speaker 2: and seven fraternity members had relations. She later sued them,
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  Speaker 2: the fraternity, the university, and others. She alleges she was
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  Speaker 2: plied with alcohol and ketamine until incapacitated and then sexually
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  Speaker 2: assaulted over several hours. No one has been criminally charged.
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  Speaker 2: The local D.A.? initially declined prosecution after the 2026 lawsuit
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  Speaker 2: and reporting. Governor Hochul appointed Attorney General Letitia James, well,
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  Speaker 2: she'll get to the bottom of it, as special prosecutor.
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  Speaker 2: Cornell's Title IX process produced mixed findings and sanctions. The
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  Speaker 2: public record does not settle whether it was rape, consensual,
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  Speaker 2: or something in between. So about three weeks after this
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  Speaker 2: night in 2024, This woman gives Cornell police a lengthy
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  Speaker 2: interview and signed a shorter statement. The DA, a guy
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  Speaker 2: named Matthew Van Houten, his reputation's not doing well. He
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  Speaker 2: reviewed that signed statement and said, doesn't look like a
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  Speaker 2: crime under New York law. According to his public summary,
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  Speaker 2: she had been drinking, went to the house, agreed to
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  Speaker 2: a threesome with a man she was attracted to, and
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  Speaker 2: they called in some other dude, hence the threesome, citing
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  Speaker 2: attraction and drunken curiousness. That's always good. She was pretty
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  Speaker 2: okay with it at an intoxication level she put at
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  Speaker 2: 5 or 6 out of 10. They're snorting some special K.
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  Speaker 2: She said she had not used it before. She later said, sure,
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  Speaker 2: when asked if they could do drugs off her body.
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  Speaker 2: So instantly we got questions about this woman, and that's
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  Speaker 2: where it gets enormously uncomfortable.
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  Speaker 1: What?
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  Speaker 2: You can't blame the accuser? Do you believe all women?
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  Speaker 2: Do you hear all women? And we're just headed into treacherous,
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  Speaker 2: treacherous territory. But here's how I'm going to do it
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  Speaker 2: and sleep at night. I don't know. I have no
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  Speaker 2: idea what happened here. There's a lady named Heather McDonald.
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  Speaker 2: She's an author, writes on a lot of women. She's
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  Speaker 2: kind of not an anti-feminist, but she has said that everybody,
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  Speaker 2: have you seen AOC riffing on this? These evil men
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  Speaker 2: did this terrible thing to this defenseless woman. Okay, maybe.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know. As I said, I wasn't there. But
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  Speaker 2: Heather McDonald's point is that what women are sometimes doing
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  Speaker 2: is getting ripped out of their minds, having all kinds
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  Speaker 2: of sex that they later regret. They wake up and
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  Speaker 2: regret it and go, wait a minute, ding, ding, ding.
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  Speaker 2: I'm going to say it was rape, even if it
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  Speaker 2: was not. Therein lies the problem. And the stories have
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  Speaker 2: changed and they have flipped. And these guys are saying,
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  Speaker 2: we didn't do anything wrong. Well, maybe that's Maybe they
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  Speaker 2: should be saying we didn't commit a crime because everybody
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  Speaker 2: was doing things that are, are incredibly wrong. Let's have
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  Speaker 2: our young ladies not act like whores, not saying she did,
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  Speaker 2: but plenty do. And let's have our sons not engage
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  Speaker 2: in this kind of activity. Even in the drunken haze
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  Speaker 2: of a frat party. Am I asking too much? I
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  Speaker 2: probably am, but that's, that's the Cornell rape case in a,
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  Speaker 2: in a nutshell. And, uh, I have no, I would
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  Speaker 2: in politics?
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  Speaker 1: Hmm.
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  Speaker 2: If I were, look, I do this for a living.
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  Speaker 2: I'm in politics every day. If I were a man
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  Speaker 2: of the cloth, if I were in the clergy, I
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  Speaker 2: don't think I could restrain myself. And here's why. I
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  Speaker 2: wouldn't be just giving a political riff instead of talking
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  Speaker 2: to people about Jesus. I'd be talking to people about Jesus,
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  Speaker 2: talking to people about God, and then sharing some things
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  Speaker 2: from the real world that I think relate to what
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  Speaker 2: God wants and what Jesus wants through what I know
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  Speaker 2: in the Bible. So if you're talking about political issues
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  Speaker 2: like abortion and gender stuff and gay rights, and you
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  Speaker 2: inform yourself with biblical truths, well, first of all, that's
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  Speaker 2: the Republican Party or so it seems. Not that we
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  Speaker 2: are without sin. Well, the Lord knows we're not without sin.
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  Speaker 2: as people, but we're not perfect. We don't claim the,
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  Speaker 2: you know, the high ground on everything morally. I did
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  Speaker 2: ask the sort of the musical question today on the show.
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  Speaker 2: What exactly biblical precept does the Democrat party hold its
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  Speaker 2: hat on? And don't even talk to me about immigration
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  Speaker 2: and welcoming all people. Now, shut up. There is nothing.
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  Speaker 1: Sorry.
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  Speaker 2: There is nothing in scripture that says you got to
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  Speaker 2: let everybody into your country any more than you got
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  Speaker 2: to let everybody into your house. You get to have borders, right?
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  Speaker 2: kindness is a strange and perverted concept in the hands
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  Speaker 2: of the left because they say you got to be
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  Speaker 2: kind to a 13 year old boy who thinks he's
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  Speaker 2: a girl by letting him chop his body parts off.
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  Speaker 2: That's not kindness. That's perversity. That's demonic. That's insanity. So
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  Speaker 2: when it comes to the way God defines life, that's
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  Speaker 2: what guides me on abortion. The way God defines men
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  Speaker 2: and women is That's what guides me on trans issues,
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  Speaker 2: marriage issues, and all of that. So I'm on pretty
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  Speaker 2: solid ground here, I would think. And so, and that's
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  Speaker 2: just me as a person, as a media guy. If
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  Speaker 2: I were a preacher, would I be saying these things? Yes. Yes. Now,
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  Speaker 2: people are fond of saying nobody in the pulpit should
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  Speaker 2: ever get into politics.
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  Speaker 1: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: You don't have to. If somebody would rather say, I'm
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  Speaker 2: going to share some Bible verses with you. Here you go.
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  Speaker 2: Some thoughts of mine about God and about Jesus. Now
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  Speaker 2: go live those things and have a great day. All right.
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  Speaker 2: That's a way to go. But if somebody wants to
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  Speaker 2: get into a little deeper and talk about things that
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  Speaker 2: are happening here on this mortal coil and make it
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  Speaker 2: significant in real world ways, I'm 100% okay with that. Now,
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  Speaker 2: there are two ways to be consistent. One is to
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  Speaker 2: say that nobody in the clergy should ever say a
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  Speaker 2: word about anything political. Okay. The other one, this is
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  Speaker 2: my way of doing it, is to say, hey, bring it.
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  Speaker 2: Pastors want to talk about political things. Let's make it
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  Speaker 2: related to the faith that you're supposedly espousing. And by
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  Speaker 2: the way, the marketplace is open to all of us.
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  Speaker 2: If you want a church that does none of this,
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  Speaker 2: there are plenty of them. If you want a church
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  Speaker 2: that totally does this from a conservative view, there's those.
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  Speaker 2: If you want churches that do this from a liberal view,
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  Speaker 2: Lord knows those exist too. And we'll read about those
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  Speaker 2: in the world of James Tallarico. But so it's all
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  Speaker 2: freedom of choice, freedom of speech, freedom of religion. And
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  Speaker 2: I'm a big freedom guy. So if a leftist pastor
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  Speaker 2: wants to riff on political things, I certainly wouldn't muzzle that.
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  Speaker 2: I would be curious to show up, though, and find
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  Speaker 2: out what exact parts of that are from the actual Bible.
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  Speaker 2: ultrasound machine and save babies until that thing peters out.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe if you're more of a $ 140 or $ 280 style giver,
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• 18:25
  Speaker 2: Preborn.com slash mmextra. All right, last thing. What the heck
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  Speaker 2: is going on in France? It is often said of
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  Speaker 2: Americans that we don't pay attention enough to stuff going
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: on in other countries. Probably true. I kind of have
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  Speaker 2: to because, you know, this gig. But I looked at
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  Speaker 2: something first thing this morning. And of course, it's middle
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  Speaker 2: as I'm speaking to you right now. This second, it's
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  Speaker 2: like eleven twenty three in the morning central time on
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: the sixth day of October. It may be a little
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  Speaker 2: later if you're doing this on Apple or Spotify or
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  Speaker 2: just picking up an episode later on in Dayton or
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  Speaker 2: Damascus or Jakarta or wherever you're watching or listening. We
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  Speaker 2: appreciate it wherever you consume the product. But as this
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  Speaker 2: day dawned, this October 6th in France, their high school protests,
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  Speaker 2: they started in mid-late September in the Paris suburbs, and
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  Speaker 2: this just got stranger by the day. Students, joined by teachers, parents,
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  Speaker 2: and some unions, well, there you are, are blockading high
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  Speaker 2: schools and marching over conditions in France's high schools. Now,
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  Speaker 2: there are about 3,700 high schools in France. The core complaints...
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  Speaker 2: that are strongest in some of the poorer areas are unreplaced,
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  Speaker 2: absent teachers, overcrowded classes. What's an overcrowded class? I was
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  Speaker 2: trying to remember when I was in school. I had
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  Speaker 2: some classes that had 15, 20 people in them. All right.
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  Speaker 2: I had some classes that had about 30. And it's
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  Speaker 2: not like I looked around at 29 other kids and went, man,
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  Speaker 2: there's too many kids in here. But maybe if I'm
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: the teacher, I would have looked at that and said,
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: how in the world can I relate to that many kids?
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: And the smaller the class, the better the pie is sliced.
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  Speaker 2: for getting the education job done. The other complaints include dilapidated,
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: sometimes poorly insulated or rodent infested buildings and long school days.
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: Long school days? What's a long school day? They had heat. Oh,
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: and it got hot in France. Red alert. It got
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: hot in France. And they ain't got no stinking air conditioning.
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: Because the stupid French have looked at this and said,
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: the air conditioning, it hurts the planet. It seems elitist
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: for us to have. We don't need your stinking air conditioning. Well,
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: how's that decision working for you there, France? And I
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: love France, by the way. Love their great country, great people,
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: but wacky politics. So everybody's going nuts. Police, they have
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: tear gas, water cannons. other crowd control measures from, uh,
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: Leon to Strasbourg to Paris, their light and barricades on fire. And, um,
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: basic budgetary study. Here's what's, as with a lot of
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: educational squabbles in America, the question always comes back to,
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  Speaker 2: is it a money problem? And it almost, it almost
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  Speaker 2: never is at its root. Uh, Could more money solve
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  Speaker 2: some things?
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  Speaker 1: Sure.
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  Speaker 2: Do some schools in every country need some more money
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  Speaker 2: for some things? By all means. But usually, whether it's
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: an American school system or a French school system, look
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: at the money you have been spending. And in fact,
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: being France, let's look at your entire country and the
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: stuff you've had to spend money on in your weird
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: socialist model that you're operating over there in the continent
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: of Europe. And maybe if you weren't doing those things,
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: you'd have all kinds of money to air condition a
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: school or two. But hey, that's just me. All right.
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• 22:08
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• 22:11
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• 22:31
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