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Finding Your Feet With RYAN DALEY From WAYWARD KINGS · HEAVY Music Interviews

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  Speaks of stories so far fall into the new Castle rock out for Wayward Kings
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  riding the crest of a wave at the moment, having just released their new
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  EP, Another Life Another Time. The band has also recently signed with Ex
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  Music, So things are definitely happening. And to fill us in more on
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  that, let's speak to front man Ryan, Thank you man, no worry.
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  So the Wayward Kings releasing u EP Another Life Another Time, I just
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  said with a bird. So how you feel about it, bros? It
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  is it still nerve bracks from this day and age putting some down. Man.
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  Look, I'm actually I'm pretty comfortable with it. Even even some of
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  the releases will done in the past I've been comfortable with and I think there's
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  always going to be a time where you know, people are going to judge
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  you or they're going to hate it all, you know. And actually had
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  a conversation with a good mate of mind the other day. He's just like
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  like a lap and I'm like, that's that's awesome feedback, you know what
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  I mean? Because we're not out there to please everybody. Mattie matt Salmons
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  and I pretty much you know, a brains trust the way we're Kings as
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  such. You know, we've played together and wrote together, and we come
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  up with a lat being you know, a bit of a rock tune that
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  can sort of be consumed on different levels, and you know what I mean.
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  So, but I think it's it's good to have people in your corner
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  that go ship mate or it's fucking awesome because they're the people that you know,
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  you really listen to. The more and more stuff and put out,
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  you know, the more I hope people have negative and positive feelings about,
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  you know what I mean. So you're still smiler when you're talking about negatives
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  made. So that's a good thing. Yeah, you got to you know
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  what I mean. Things might not always go to plan, but you've got
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  to have a good time. Do I agree? That tell us a me
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  more about the EP from a musical point of view and what you're going for.
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  I think for this EVP, originally there was about seven tracks that we
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  were going to put onto the EP, and the whole goal, the sound
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  and what we wanted to sort of release was wayard. Kings are very much
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  a live band, and I think in the past I've always struggled trying to
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  catch that essence of you know, a vocal performance or a breakdown or you
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  know something that hits you when you see a band live. That's sometimes hard
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  to put on an album. And I think goal was just to have listeners
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  be able to hear what we sound like live, you know, and you
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  know where I'm very, very lucky to have the three of the guys in
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  my band that the rhythm section is just tires of Fisher's ass and Nick Bookie
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  on drums, Jamie Hill on bass, the that just you know, if
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  you ever get a chance to see this man, you'll know what I'm talking
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  about. They're both just incredible. So every recordings were done to a click
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  and there's been minimal shift with anything, so we've still created that live sound.
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  And look, I think the vocal performance across turned out The Gods,
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  which is the middle track, and the real You I think they were done
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  in like. I think we took the first take right through both of them
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  and it was yeah, you know, that in itself gave it a real
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  live vibe as well, because there wasn't some stopping and starting and we'll do
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  this first and we'll come back to it. You know. I walked in
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  there and said let's do it. I tracked the first one and I said
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  to Lee, Rolf did our engineering? I said, did you record it?
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  You know? And he's like, mate, I always record. So
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  that was pretty much burned down the gods. It was the first track we
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  did, and I'm pretty certain that's that first whole take, give or take
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  some bitterly bits, but you know that that's a good example of what we
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  are alive, and I think that was what we're trying to go for.
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  Now. She's only a three track EP, like you said, mate,
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  so we've got time to go through each song track by track and you can
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  tell us a bit more about it. So we'll start with a lad YEP.
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  So a lot, like I said, was written as a rough song,
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  a rough tune thing that can be sort of digested across not necessarily you're
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  heavier sort of fans, but it's something that still sits in the in the
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  Wayward King genre as just a you know, just a bang and track.
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  Maddie come up with an intro for it about eighteen months ago, I think,
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  and I remember he showed it to me and I'm like, that's just
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  a really wicked hook, you know. The guitar hook, and we went
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  through a couple of different changes with it. We actually, Maddie and I
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  did a lot of the pre production, and we got to the end of
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  it where like, fuck, man, this song is awesome. You know,
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  it is just awesome, and we were both chaff going, it's a
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  fucking hit. It's a hit you and we sent it through the rye and
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  he goes, it's an absolute coster fuck you know. You know, once
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  you play, can listen to it for fucking hours, you know, looking
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  I think that when we ended up with that track anyway, he goes,
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  you've got two courses in the song. Yeah, but it's just keeps goat.
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  He goes, get rid of that. We moved down to the second
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  song on the album, which is burned Down the Gods. Yeah, burn
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  down the Gods. I am this song, or not not necessarily this song.
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  But like I said, Maddie and I have been writing together for a
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  long time and he come up with this hook, another guitar hook, and
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  at the time we had nothing with it. We had no lyrics, we
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  had no structure. It was literally just a hook and some you know,
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  some pretty fucking boring chords or something. You know, it was a real
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  inception of the of the songs. Anyway, I've always loved that guitar hook,
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  like it's it's probably one of my favorite guitar hooks in you know,
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  a lot of our stuff. Anyway, I come up with some a narrative
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  around, you know, burn down the Gods, which I guess to me
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  is like it's the establishment thing, you know, fuck the establishment, burned
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  down the gods. You know, I'm going to make my own destiny sort
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  of track. And that was one that we did in pre production. That
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  was like four and a half five minutes, you know, and during crew
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  production we worked with a good mate of Burserlon that helped us with a lot
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  of the just the production side of things, and it was a real great
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  help. Anyway, we cut that song into like two minutes forty now and
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  it's literally start finish, you know, and it just doesn't let up.
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  And yeah, that's that's one of my favorite tracks at the moment. Anyway,
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  It's probably because it's the newest that we've been working on. You know.
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  I put it up with The Real You. It sounds like a love
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  song man, the Real You. So did you get a chance to listen
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  to that one yet I got halfway through it before I had the ringer,
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  but I was digging it cool. No, no, no, that's all
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  good man. Yeah, look the real you. It can be taken from
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  many perspectives, man, you know, I see it as looking into somebody,
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  whether or not you're in a relationship with them or you know, but
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  coming up with you never get a chance to see the real person, you
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  know. And like I said, songs can be interpreted in many different ways,
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  you know, but look deep down, Yeah, potentially a love song,
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  but it's also it's got some wicked parts in it, many some wicked
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  parts in it. So I can listen to more of a bit where we
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  play it live. Man, the breakdown of the middle can just it just
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  yeah, it's so airy yet so tight, and some of the rhythms in
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  there as well made it just like I said, it's just a To me,
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  it's just a fucking good old rock track. All of those songs are
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  you know. That's actually the overwhelming feeling I got listening to it. Was
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  just a good old school as you rock. Yeah. Yeah, and mate,
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  we're super excited for it to actually be launched because a lot of our
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  fans unless they've come to some shows, they wouldn't have heard a lot of
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  these tracks. And it is a different sound compared to our debut one that
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  we actually set up. So yeah, yeah, right, all right,
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  yeah, And I noticed there's no song on the EP chord another Life and
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  other Times, So I'm guessing that the title it's got a bit of a
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  deeper meaning. Sorry mate, Another Life Another Time is actually the first track
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  on that album if you just only used the first letters. So a LAT
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  is Another Life, Another Time. And I've always had trouble trying to come
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  up with EP names and you know, song titles and stuff that just don't
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  sound you know, they just sounds ship or they're you know, their corny,
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  you know. And it's really funny that because they're the last lyrics in
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  a LAT as well another Life, Another Time or like just before the ending.
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  And I just felt like, you know, the film clip that we
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  did for a LAT was shot in Rogue Scholar up here in Newcastle. We
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  got in there for a full day and did the film clip for it and
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  the EP cover and the album. Sorry, the EP jacket has got all
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  of the photos from the film clip, you know, and it just seemed
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  like a really fitting piece to name that EP Another Life, Another Time,
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  And to be honest, I'm pretty proud of it that I decided to do
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  that. Yeah, you know, because it's it's you know, I think
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  it it's just it's it's perfect for it. Man. You know, I
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  suppose you can't really call every release self titled? Can you go five albums
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  out all called self titled? Well, mate, I had I had nothing
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  for the last two singles we released as a you know, I dropped two
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  tracks into the one release and I just called it the B sides because I
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  think that's a little bit unimaginative when I looked at it, to be honest,
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  I know, I'm like, Fuck, we've got to We've got to
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  come up with something. Someone say something, you know. I think it
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  was when I was typing it into the you know, the DSP to push
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  Okay, I'm like, what do we need to call this? All right?
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  The B sides? It'll do? Yeah. They And the other thing
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  about importance is happened with the way with Kings this year, bro, as
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  you're signing to X and Music, which is the new music label made like,
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  tell us about that and what the sort of things that opens up to
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  the band. Man, well, it's fucking amazing, to be honest,
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  you know, like it's something that every musician sort of dreams of to get
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  an opportunity like that, and it's sort of only read its head in the
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  last couple of months through some conversations about you know who Way with Kings are,
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  what do we want to do? Where do we want to go?
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  And you know, in the back of my mind, I've always seen Way
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  with Kings is being I'd like to call it a household name, but you
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  know what I mean, it's not. It's not that it's it's it's a
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  band that has an awesome network around them that can actually get them to great
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  stages, to get them to you know, a bunch of new listeners.
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  And you know, in today's market, mate, you can have the best
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  tracks, you could have the best outfit, you know, unless you find
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  those channels that allows you to get to those places. Man, it never
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  fucking happens. And I said to Maddie, you know, I said,
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  man, it's really up to the universe now, man, you know what
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  I mean, We've got an actual label that is going to work with us
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  and get us to where we need to be. And you know, I
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  honestly think it just really it all comes down to if the songs are going
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  to hold the water, you know what I mean, if they've got the
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  weight to carry us to that next level. Because you know, having the
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  meeting with ex Music, you know we've got a really good platform man to
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  take that Australia wide and overseas, you know. And I think the label
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  is a glamorous sort of you know, not sh on our belts or on
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  our hats, you know. But I think in the essence of it,
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  man, it's it's practically we're on a world stage, man, you know
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  what I mean. No matter where that goes or what that is, it's
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  sort of like we've opened the door, you know, turn the key in
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  the lock, and we're standing there in our undies. Like my head was
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  going into a beautiful place like that, and it just oh, well,
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  mate, when we're standing in our undies in some hotel room at four o'clock
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  in the morning, mate, we'll remember this conversation. There'll be gold painted
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  undies by then. Eat some stories so far on a two family of the
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  family that's God no direction of them too full shee's down to the devil.
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  So the devil take jobs you see as easy gas stated at the stars from
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  a god that stool their parts part of bother Ham and feeds too much part
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  of other gods. The Brothers got a good burn down those guys, Burn
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  down those hells, Burn down those guys, and watch shoot come and here
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  at it. It's a little better full shoot the ship because the ship feels
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  different as hell. Bother hand, the seat stupid, be the hell bather
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  at you and you're in my house. Look at you anything crazy? B
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