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Being Where We Are with Dianna Leeder · The Bridges and Beacons Podcast

• 0:38
  SPEAKER_00: Hello, hello, hello, and welcome.
• 0:42
  SPEAKER_00: You are here sitting with us at the Mystic Nerd Squad podcast.
• 0:48
  SPEAKER_00: I am delighted and just overjoyed to have my friend Diana Leader of Crave More Life here with us today.
• 1:00
  SPEAKER_00: Diana and I have been friends, I think for a couple years, although it feels like old friends at this point, you know, um the timeline is like where where did we meet?
• 1:10
  SPEAKER_00: When did we?
• 1:11
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
• 1:11
  SPEAKER_00: We're just really good friends.
• 1:13
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
• 1:14
  SPEAKER_02: We just keep kind of popping in, right?
• 1:17
  SPEAKER_02: We pop in each other's Pisces.
• 1:18
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 1:19
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: Absolutely.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I think the thing is the community of women and heart-centered men who have kind of gravitated toward each other over the past couple of years, spiritual entrepreneurs.
• 1:33
  SPEAKER_00: We are all just so in it for each other and lighting other people up and giving people a voice.
• 1:43
  SPEAKER_00: Um, so what I want to show you up above my head over there, you'll see this lovely book, the second volume of Find Your Voice, Save Your Life.
• 1:52
  SPEAKER_00: And Diana started that project.
• 1:54
  SPEAKER_00: Um, and I was lucky enough to be part of the second volume.
• 1:58
  SPEAKER_00: If you haven't checked out those books, you need to.
• 2:02
  SPEAKER_00: Absolutely.
• 2:03
  SPEAKER_00: The women and men who have written in those books and are writing in those books are getting to a place of vulnerability.
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  SPEAKER_00: And Diana is so supportive and wonderful with her authors that you feel this comfort and safety in being able to get out there and share your stories, you know, some of them stories that have never been shared before.
• 2:27
  SPEAKER_00: Um, so it's such a special project.
• 2:29
  SPEAKER_00: You're such a special person, and I'm so happy to have you here with me this morning.
• 2:34
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, thank you.
• 2:35
  SPEAKER_02: Thank you, thank you, Kelly.
• 2:36
  SPEAKER_02: That's that's beautiful.
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  SPEAKER_02: And I feel the same about you, you know, our our, you know, we kind of come in and then we go and then we come in and then we go.
• 2:44
  SPEAKER_02: But, you know, I know that I can reach out anytime and I feel like you can too.
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  SPEAKER_02: And and yes, this community is really built for people like you and I who, you know, we've we are glued in some way, I think, in the community.
• 2:58
  SPEAKER_02: Um, and then we stretch and we come back, and yeah, it's it's a beautiful community, beautiful community.
• 3:03
  SPEAKER_02: And I and I want to say I I adore that book behind you.
• 3:08
  SPEAKER_02: It's really, oh my goodness, it's it's just great.
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  SPEAKER_02: Um, and I was very honored to have you be part of it.
• 3:14
  SPEAKER_02: Um, yeah, it's and as you said, you know, there's such an impact when we tell our stories and and holding space for that is so so important.
• 3:24
  SPEAKER_02: Um, not just and and and I have to say, it's it's not just for you.
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  SPEAKER_02: I mean, I feel good when I do that.
• 3:31
  SPEAKER_02: So I'm I'm you know, selfishly doing this for myself, right?
• 3:34
  SPEAKER_02: Um, so that's been that's been a beautiful, beautiful ride.
• 3:38
  SPEAKER_02: And I just want to put a little plug in that number four, uh Transcendent Men, Real Stories, is coming out in August.
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  SPEAKER_02: So yeah, take a take a take a look for that when it comes out.
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  SPEAKER_02: It's um it's really powerful.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, really powerful.
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  SPEAKER_00: I can't wait to read that one.
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  SPEAKER_00: I think this is, you know, it's sort of become like this very exciting time where we can embrace, you know, both female, male energies, you know, and the healing process and and find the ways in which we're so much more similar than different as human beings.
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  SPEAKER_00: And um that that identity of, you know, um, women are the ones going through the spiritual journey, and men are sort of like they're stuck, they don't understand, and that's just not true.
• 4:31
  SPEAKER_00: Um, and I think it's just such a beautiful thing for you to um open up that space for men to be able to tell their stories.
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  SPEAKER_00: And how brave and powerful is that?
• 4:43
  SPEAKER_00: You know, I I can't wait.
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  SPEAKER_00: I'm really excited.
• 4:47
  SPEAKER_00: So yeah, thank you.
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  SPEAKER_00: We talked about a bunch of different things we could talk about on the podcast.
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  SPEAKER_00: And and even as we were, you know, greeting each other and saying hello, we were getting into our science and our spiritual brains because this is what we love, this is what we enjoy.
• 5:05
  SPEAKER_00: So when you told me that our topic was going to be being where we are, I just felt so lit up by that idea.
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  SPEAKER_00: So, where did that come from?
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  SPEAKER_00: How did you come up with the idea of talking about being where we are?
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  SPEAKER_02: You know, it so it it be it came from um our own spirituality wherever we are with our um with our level of spirituality or our level of ascension.
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  SPEAKER_02: That's been a very that's been a lesson that I have learned um since my gifts started to come online.
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  SPEAKER_02: Um and and but I but I want to say that there, you know, there is the there's for me, there's always the spiritual, but there's always the practical too.
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  SPEAKER_02: Like I'm a very practical and very grounded, you know.
• 5:51
  SPEAKER_02: If it doesn't, I say this all the time, if it doesn't, if my next next door neighbor can't understand it, then we need to change the the verbiage so that they do, you know.
• 5:59
  SPEAKER_02: So um, because all this needs to come together as one, you know, no more you you're spiritual, you're not, you know, we're all spiritual, as you were saying earlier, we're all energy.
• 6:13
  SPEAKER_02: So um, so I think it's really important to recognize both of those sides and and try to bring it together a little bit.
• 6:20
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 6:21
  SPEAKER_00: I and and it's just reminding me how much I love you and how much I really resonate with that, and that, you know, it doesn't have to be this thing that some of us get to do, and the rest of us have to sort of put our head down and dig in and and do what we're doing.
• 6:36
  SPEAKER_00: But there's there's something to be said about, you know, being present and in the moment and accepting ourselves fully and bravely.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_02: And you know what?
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  SPEAKER_02: I should probably change my own words and stop calling them spiritual gifts because they're really not gifts, they are part of our energy, and and um, I think uh, you know, from my understanding, come, they come as, you know, as we ascend up as we are more connected.
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  SPEAKER_02: So, um, so it's not like you know, you're different because you have them, I'm different because I have them, we're not, you know, everybody is different.
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  SPEAKER_02: Um, and our connection is different based on our acceptance of who we are.
• 7:22
  SPEAKER_02: I think that's where it comes from.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: I I feel like for me, it's been more so uncovering versus discovering.
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  SPEAKER_00: Like it's already been there, it's already who I was.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um, and the life journey takes us in different places.
• 7:42
  SPEAKER_00: And and sometimes those things that just are inherently who we are are so subject to conditioning and to, you know, putting us in a place of hiding who we really are because it's often not safe or uncomfortable for the people around us, especially as children.
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  SPEAKER_00: Was that your experience as a child?
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  SPEAKER_02: Um, no, you know what?
• 8:08
  SPEAKER_02: I was totally shut off as a well, not shut off, I was totally um blind to it as a child.
• 8:14
  SPEAKER_02: Um, it wasn't until it's it's been fairly recent, like the last few years, that that I came to understand that, oh, okay, that's why this happens for me.
• 8:25
  SPEAKER_02: You know, so undoubtedly it was there that, well, I was there the whole time.
• 8:29
  SPEAKER_02: I didn't recognize it.
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  SPEAKER_02: So, and that's kind of the piece about um just you know being okay with where we are.
• 8:36
  SPEAKER_02: You know, you you wouldn't have um if you hadn't been in a space where you recognize what was happening and recognize the differences in the, you know, in you and the shifts that were happening for you, you know, you may not have ever um come to the point where you are today with your own spiritual um gifts.
• 8:56
  SPEAKER_02: I bet I don't think of a better word.
• 8:59
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, you know, it it does come back to to being who we are, being okay with who we are, and um, you know, not rushing the process.
• 9:09
  SPEAKER_02: And and I think that's true in anything in life, but particularly, you know, spiritually, we we can't rush the process, we can only be right here, right now.
• 9:20
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 9:21
  SPEAKER_00: So how did that journey start for you?
• 9:24
  SPEAKER_00: How did you find yourself going from you know, being subject to the conditioning of others to really accepting who you were and becoming more brave with being out about that?
• 9:37
  unknown: Right.
• 9:38
  SPEAKER_02: So um it was a few years ago I recognized that um my um the things that had been happening for me for a long time were actually channeled or, you know, they were because of the connection to spirit.
• 9:56
  SPEAKER_02: That's when I read.
• 9:57
  SPEAKER_02: And part of it was this community, you know, being part of the community and and um seeing how other people operated and you know, the kinds of things that they were able to do.
• 10:07
  SPEAKER_02: Um and and the more I thought about it and the more I understood it, because I'm not a, you know, I mean, I I I love to learn, but you know, I'm not gonna sit down with a textbook.
• 10:17
  SPEAKER_02: I'm done that, you know.
• 10:19
  SPEAKER_02: So, so to sit and read something, you know, read something about the science of whatever is, you know, is not really what I, you know, I'd rather go play with my grandbabies, actually.
• 10:29
  SPEAKER_02: So um, but uh so it, you know, I mean, I certainly did my own research, but it was more practical research, I think, you know.
• 10:39
  SPEAKER_02: I did a lot of had a lot of sessions with people who helped me connect.
• 10:44
  SPEAKER_02: I have seen the same medium for over well over 20 years.
• 10:49
  SPEAKER_02: Oh wow.
• 10:50
  SPEAKER_02: And yeah, and um, and she's amazing, you know, and she she really started this process for me, that kind of awakening, because when my mother passed almost 30 years ago now, um she helped me connect with her.
• 11:05
  SPEAKER_02: And and I remember, and I it's actually I wrote about this in book three that um when I was in a session with her and she's she made some reference to my mom, and I said, Tell her I love her.
• 11:18
  SPEAKER_02: And she said, I don't need to tell her she can hear you.
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  SPEAKER_02: So I'm I get the chills just just from that.
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  SPEAKER_02: So she must be here with us.
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  SPEAKER_02: That's kind of one of one of my signs, you know.
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  SPEAKER_02: So that was that was for me a huge understanding that okay, this is not over there somewhere.
• 11:39
  SPEAKER_02: This is something that I have access to as well.
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  SPEAKER_02: And the more I considered all the things that had been true for me for a long, long time, you know, being able to walk into a room and knowing knowing the energy that I needed to sit beside, you know, and and consciously avoiding the energy that I knew would be uncomfortable, um, you know, that kind of thing.
• 12:02
  SPEAKER_02: Being able to um to just know what my kids needed to hear in the moment that they needed to hear it.
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  SPEAKER_02: You know, have that knowing, that's a big one for me too.
• 12:14
  SPEAKER_02: You know, that the chills are part of it, the knowing is there.
• 12:18
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, you know, and being able to um being able to go and and this has always been a bit of a challenge for me.
• 12:25
  SPEAKER_02: The meditation is always frankly has all you know, everybody is like into it knee deep, and I I love it when I go deep.
• 12:32
  SPEAKER_02: It's you know, I have to work at that.
• 12:34
  SPEAKER_02: You know, that doesn't come easy to me because I'm a because I'm a doer, right?
• 12:39
  SPEAKER_02: Because my brain goes and goes and goes.
• 12:41
  SPEAKER_02: So I have to work hard at that.
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  SPEAKER_02: Um, and and when I have, it's you know, the the results have been amazing, of course.
• 12:49
  SPEAKER_02: Um, but that is when if there's something that is really um really serious happening in my life, something that I'm really that I really need some immediate guidance with, then I will hear, you know, I will I will hear a statement.
• 13:08
  SPEAKER_02: I, you know, I I have a connection to the Palladians.
• 13:11
  SPEAKER_02: And and you know, because it's not always something that's serious in a negative way.
• 13:16
  SPEAKER_02: Um, I have these dance parties in my kitchen every day.
• 13:20
  SPEAKER_02: And and and they and they show up then, you know, they show up then.
• 13:24
  SPEAKER_02: So just before Christmas, I'm you know, I'm at my computer and I'm cramming to get all this stuff done to say, you know, to be able to take a blend.
• 13:30
  SPEAKER_02: And um I hear, and may we go shopping?
• 13:35
  SPEAKER_02: You know, so oh yeah, okay.
• 13:38
  SPEAKER_02: I know who that is in this playful kind of up-level voice, you know.
• 13:45
  SPEAKER_02: So um sadly I didn't get to go shopping, but not that day anyway.
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  SPEAKER_02: But but you know, so so it's it's it's being okay when those things happen and being okay recognizing um the things that have always been part of us, the things that we just know about ourselves and trusting trusting that and trusting our intuition.
• 14:10
  SPEAKER_02: You know, that whole that whole thing about trust your gut, it's really true, you know.
• 14:15
  SPEAKER_00: Oh my gosh.
• 14:16
  SPEAKER_02: Trust what you're getting and and roll with it, you know, you can't make any mistakes.
• 14:21
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 14:23
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 14:23
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 14:24
  SPEAKER_00: And that's a hard lesson to learn, isn't it?
• 14:26
  SPEAKER_00: I I mean, I'm speaking specifically for myself, you know, being someone who kind of became a perfectionist in my life.
• 14:37
  SPEAKER_00: And so, like, I was always afraid to make a mistake.
• 14:42
  SPEAKER_00: And you know what happens then?
• 14:43
  SPEAKER_00: Then it's analysis, paralysis, and freeze and procrastination, and you just don't do anything because you're afraid it's not going to be good enough or you're gonna disappoint someone, you know.
• 14:54
  SPEAKER_00: Um, so I think that for me is something so exciting about this phase of my life, where exactly as you said, like trusting your gut, trusting your intuition.
• 15:07
  SPEAKER_00: Um, and I what I learned, and I never knew, is that your intuition is a pretty quiet voice.
• 15:15
  SPEAKER_00: It's a pretty level-headed voice, different from the voices we hear that are those repetitive thoughts in our head, but it takes that stillness and that intention, you know, it to go back to what you said, being where we are, to be, to really hear it.
• 15:32
  SPEAKER_00: So, how did you learn to really settle in and find that connection more to your intuition to kind of guide you?
• 15:42
  SPEAKER_00: Especially, you know, you're doing so many amazing things out in the world as a spiritual entrepreneur.
• 15:48
  SPEAKER_00: Um, so how do you do that?
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  SPEAKER_02: So I my intuition doesn't come as a voice, it it comes as that knowing.
• 15:59
  SPEAKER_02: Um so it's it's a matter of paying attention, you know, instead of kind of as we do when our brain is going and going and going, um, we skip from one thing to another thing to another thing to another thing, and we don't stop with one.
• 17:37
  SPEAKER_02: So that's that's my practice is just just stop, just wait and listen.
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  SPEAKER_02: And for instance, this morning when I was meditating, um, I asked a question and the response that I had, you know, right here that I got very clearly was um draw a card.
• 17:55
  SPEAKER_02: So so I gotta show you this because you'll you'll giggle at this.
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  SPEAKER_02: So here's the card that I pulled.
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  SPEAKER_02: Where are we gone here?
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  SPEAKER_00: You've got the power.
• 18:05
  SPEAKER_00: I love it.
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  SPEAKER_00: I feel I hear the song in my head, you've got the power.
• 18:11
  SPEAKER_02: I might dance to that later in my kitchen.
• 18:12
  SPEAKER_02: I don't know.
• 18:13
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, you totally should.
• 18:14
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_02: So so it is, you know, stopping at that, at that one that one place and just letting it, you know, just just being right there.
• 18:26
  SPEAKER_02: You know, you don't have to judge anything, you don't have to worry about anything, you just have to and uh, you know, for me, I've I I like to feel the presence embody me.
• 18:38
  SPEAKER_02: You know, so it is that place of just um being calm from head to toe.
• 18:45
  SPEAKER_02: And and and you know, quite frankly, and I know a really great meditator does not need to do this, but um, I put on noise-canceling earphones because I hear the traffic, I hear the birds, I love the birds, but sometimes then I start thinking about the birds, right?
• 19:00
  SPEAKER_02: I'll think about you in a minute.
• 19:01
  SPEAKER_02: I want to just focus on this, right?
• 19:04
  SPEAKER_02: So, so you know, I just I do what I can to be right there.
• 19:09
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 19:10
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I I love that.
• 19:12
  SPEAKER_00: And I I feel like that's such a great first practice for someone who is feeling disconnected, and I can relate to that feeling of disconnection and and finding that stillness.
• 19:24
  SPEAKER_00: And uh, I know for me, uh, same as you said that morning time, that potency of stillness before checking in on Facebook or you know, starting to get to the to-do list, but just like getting into that juicy stillness because it feels so good.
• 19:43
  SPEAKER_00: And I I think it's because we've been so conditioned to do and to move and to, you know, keep going that stopping being still, taking a moment, breathing, and going really deeply into that has become something that was maybe not as desirable, but I find it's just the most amazing practice.
• 20:07
  SPEAKER_00: And it's simple and it's free.
• 20:09
  SPEAKER_02: Absolutely.
• 20:10
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah.
• 20:11
  SPEAKER_02: And it is a practice, you know, you you it it doesn't just come automatically to everyone.
• 20:16
  SPEAKER_02: So, as you heard.
• 20:18
  SPEAKER_02: Um, so yeah, we need to give ourselves permission to do that.
• 20:22
  SPEAKER_02: It's it's another, and and yeah, I think we've had this conversation before about self-care.
• 20:27
  SPEAKER_02: I I don't like that term because I I feel like it has that connotation of painting nails, but self-nourishing care, you know, like to really know that whatever we're doing is is feeding us, you know, that feeds us.
• 20:41
  SPEAKER_02: That that calms us, that gives us a minute to get out of the worry, you know, not even jumping into it for, you know, whatever you do later, do do, you know, go ahead and do it, but stop for at least that time.
• 20:55
  SPEAKER_02: And and I find, and this is an interesting one for me too, because because my mind races, I've had to work hard to wait for the answer to my questions.
• 21:06
  SPEAKER_02: You know, because I I you know in conversation.
• 21:09
  SPEAKER_02: So, how are you?
• 21:10
  SPEAKER_02: I'm I'm waiting.
• 21:11
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, you're gonna answer me right away, right?
• 21:13
  SPEAKER_02: Right, right.
• 21:15
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, no, it doesn't, you know.
• 21:18
  SPEAKER_02: I I you know, calm the you know what down, Diana.
• 21:21
  SPEAKER_02: Just you know, just wait, just surrender to it and um and take the goodness that comes from that.
• 21:28
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I really love what you said, you know, just before there about you know that that connotation of self-care.
• 21:34
  SPEAKER_00: Now it's like the buzzword, right?
• 21:36
  SPEAKER_00: So so those of us who have been like deeply invested in the self-care for a while, now it's sort of like, oh, well, it means these things and it's selfish and whatever other conditioning is around self-care.
• 21:48
  SPEAKER_00: Um, but I love that you said self-nourishment and like what came into my mind immediately was nourish thyself, you know, and mind, body, spirit needs nourishment, and it's so holistic.
• 22:01
  SPEAKER_00: It's not just, you know, what are you literally feeding yourself?
• 22:05
  SPEAKER_00: What are you feeding your brain?
• 22:06
  SPEAKER_00: What are you feeding your body?
• 22:08
  SPEAKER_00: What are you feeding your spirit and how are you, you know, connecting in?
• 22:14
  SPEAKER_00: Um, yeah.
• 22:15
  SPEAKER_00: Thank you for that.
• 22:16
  SPEAKER_00: I think that's that's great.
• 22:17
  SPEAKER_00: Maybe the the conversation needs to be more more towards self-nourishment rather than you know, self-care, being a little more clear about what is self-care, what does that look like?
• 22:28
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, absolutely.
• 22:29
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, because it just as you said, you know, it is all about what we feed ourselves.
• 22:35
  SPEAKER_02: Um, and that's that's vital because if we don't feed ourselves, we're not getting fed, period.
• 22:41
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it's uh it's a big one.
• 22:43
  SPEAKER_02: And and you know this, it's a it's a big one for women for sure.
• 22:47
  SPEAKER_02: Um men in a very different way, but yeah, yeah, it's it's a big one.
• 22:52
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 22:53
  SPEAKER_02: It's also something that is um it has been hijacked.
• 22:57
  SPEAKER_02: The term has been has been hijacked.
• 23:00
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 23:00
  SPEAKER_02: So so if we have to create a new term, then let's create a new term.
• 23:04
  SPEAKER_00: I know.
• 23:05
  SPEAKER_00: Don't I know it?
• 23:06
  SPEAKER_00: You know, I'm all about the self-care.
• 23:08
  SPEAKER_00: You are and uh yeah, yeah, and and going super duper deep into what that really means.
• 23:14
  SPEAKER_00: You know, it's such a broader, broader topic than just getting your nails done or pedicure or massage.
• 23:20
  SPEAKER_00: Although I highly recommend doing those as well.
• 23:22
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 23:23
  SPEAKER_00: But yeah, the stillness, what are you feeding your brain?
• 23:26
  SPEAKER_00: Super important.
• 23:27
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 23:28
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 23:29
  SPEAKER_02: Someone actually um someone actually had a really good way of of describing, you know, doing those kinds of things that are that most people think are are feeding.
• 23:41
  SPEAKER_02: And and and on some level they are because you're you are there, you're in a different space, you're doing something different, you're making the conscious choice to do something for yourself.
• 23:49
  SPEAKER_02: Um, but uh this comment, I thought this was so great, and I'll have to I'll have to have to think about where who it was that said this to me, but it's not.
• 23:58
  SPEAKER_02: necessarily about what you're doing, but what you are doing while you're doing that.
• 24:04
  SPEAKER_02: So when you're, you know, when you are getting a pedicure, you know, are you on your phone?
• 24:11
  SPEAKER_02: You know, are you um or are you connecting with the, you know, with the other person that's that's there helping you, you know, or are you taking that time to just enjoy the stillness and you know enjoying the beauty that your fingers and toes, you know, look like by the time you're done.
• 24:31
  SPEAKER_02: You know, so I I really liked that.
• 24:33
  SPEAKER_02: That that very much resonated with me.
• 24:35
  SPEAKER_02: You know, yes, go ahead and and do those things, but um consider what you're what what else you're doing while you are engaging in that kind of stuff.
• 24:45
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that's such a good point, that intentionality.
• 24:48
  SPEAKER_00: I also think, you know, I the the other piece or complementary um practice to self-care is self-soothing.
• 24:58
  SPEAKER_00: And I think sometimes they can get confused and sometimes the self-soothing needs to come before the self-care.
• 25:06
  SPEAKER_00: So like the self-care is not opening that pint of ice cream and eating the whole thing.
• 25:12
  SPEAKER_00: But that might be a really good self-soothing practice that, you know, kind of offers up what your inner self is really needing, you know, so that you can then get to the actual self-care, which might be like, okay, well then now tomorrow is when I'm going to start my exercise routine back up again.
• 25:31
  SPEAKER_00: But today I just need to like get into my body and do something that feels really good.
• 25:37
  SPEAKER_00: And then I can go towards the self-care.
• 25:39
  SPEAKER_00: Have you found that to be true?
• 25:42
  SPEAKER_02: I I have um I think that there is a lot of um learning for us to do in terms of that you know having that consideration because it it you know we we're kind of for me it's kind of dealing with two different things.
• 25:56
  SPEAKER_02: So because I think the self-soothing is looking for some healing right it's looking it's looking for that comfort it's looking for some healing and that can go to you know from having a little bit of ice cream to the whole pint or you know um a a glass of wine to a bottle of wine or whatever.
• 26:12
  SPEAKER_02: But it so it it becomes conscious.
• 26:15
  SPEAKER_00: So if we're caught you know if our if our self-soothing is conscious I think it's it's awesome because yeah sometimes we just want to relax you know be right in that moment you know and and so you know when we're eating that ice cream how about we just stop and and really taste what it's like you know what's in it I wonder what that flavor is and you know how how um connoisseurs of food will um you know will tell you or or find wine will tell you oh I I I um taste a bouquet of whatever right I was I've never I've never quite quite gotten there myself I just you know if it tastes good I'm good um so you know to do that for ourselves in in whatever we do you know what's in there what's the you know um let's be conscious about what we do no matter what it is for whatever reason right right which is being where we are exactly right it's it all comes down to the same thing yeah allowing ourselves to be where we are yeah I love that that conscious presence um and uh we have like a a really nice active uh Facebook group this morning and they're sharing um I believe it's Jen Piseno saying to me it's not self-care it's this is my lifestyle my lifestyle is that I savor life and nurture myself with simple pleasure soul enrichment practices and all the delicious things.
• 27:40
  SPEAKER_00: I love that.
• 27:41
  SPEAKER_00: So it's it you know what I it's making me wonder like just I'll just throw myself under the bus.
• 27:49
  SPEAKER_00: When I'm really reaching for those things that are more self-soothing than self-care that maybe are not in alignment with self-care practices for physical health um it's because I've been so detached and I haven't been as present in my life as I needed to be you know um too much in my head which is just is something that I've I've always sort of um struggled with and had to work through.
• 28:15
  SPEAKER_02: Yes yeah yeah me too me too exactly um I want to say too that um one of the things that I've been doing is certifying find your voice healers and within that training and this is something that I do in one-to-one work is um is to you know teach that you know we can't we can't be ourselves unless we know who we are so if we are kind of jumping in and deciding what is you know what's self-soothing what's self-care um without that kind of basic understanding of what we need you know like Jen you know Jen's comment was perfect she's obviously given that some thought and knows exactly what she needs from in here um if we're not there then we're you know we're not as likely to be able to discern the difference between the two right so so yeah know yourself to be yourself and then and and that's a that's a huge process you know it's huge and you and it changes every day you know it does well you know what I don't think the tomatoes work so well for me anymore I guess I won't eat them anymore or whatever it is you know um something that on the surface or something much deeper um yeah I think we just need to really take that time again be who we are who are we yeah yeah I I love that and I love that you that you also said like knowing yourself isn't necessarily something so simple you know it could take some uncovering and discovering and searching for some of us you know um yeah I but I love I love being part of this community where that soul searching is is a a norm.
• 30:05
  SPEAKER_00: Everybody's doing it and everybody's okay with where they are in their journey and okay with witnessing you being in your journey.
• 30:16
  SPEAKER_00: And I think for me that has been one of the most impactful things over the past couple years like really just beingcome part of a greater community of of people who believe that diving deep in is just what we're here to do and it's never a perfect process.
• 30:36
  SPEAKER_02: It's not linear absolutely but it's worth it right oh totally worth it and yes it's you know it's never it's never perfect there we always have room to grow yeah absolutely yeah and when there are you know that the the richness in this community is is so great that you know I know that there are so many people that I can reach out to if I need to that you know and and people that that know that they can reach out to me if I can you know if I can offer them something as well.
• 31:10
  SPEAKER_02: And that's beautiful.
• 31:11
  SPEAKER_02: I mean that's that's true friendship spiritual or not that's that's friendship.
• 31:16
  SPEAKER_02: Oh 100% yeah these the these people are my my sisters you know I I feel the spiritual connection is so strong um and uh and that that is honestly why I wanted to do this podcast just to put all of these wonderful people out in the world for our voices to be more clear and I think some of these messages like you said for people who maybe can't connect to the the idea of spiritual gifts can't can't seem to find their way like there there is a way and there are people here to help you and for sure you're definitely one of those you know the whole writing to heal process is a big piece of things yeah that's that's a fun a fun fun group and and yeah you're right it's so important because not everybody wants to be in a book you know not everybody not everyone has that as a goal um so to be able to offer something to them was was really big for me I still have a couple of spots coming up in the next class if anybody's interested just give me a shout um and I you know in terms of the in terms of the the spiritual stuff because I know we're getting probably getting pretty close to time but I wanted I wanted to ask something because it kept coming back to me today.
• 32:41
  SPEAKER_02: So I there are there are things that you know I mean my mind goes goes to crazy places sometimes of course but I want to know and and if we have other spiritual people in the audience obviously Jen is there and many more I want to know if you know what the take is on Brooke Shields.
• 33:00
  SPEAKER_02: Do you think that maybe back in the day are you old enough to know Brooke Shields yes yes so back in the day she had the the best eyebrows so do you think that that was channeled for her back then because that was unusual that was that was not typical for the day everybody else is go with the little thin ones and now we're all painting them back in because we lost what we had.
• 33:26
  SPEAKER_00: So that's just the the kind of fun stuff that comes up for me when when I start thinking about did Brooke Shields was cheat you know was she channeling those eyebrows you know was that actually happening yeah well and that's so I now I'm very curious of course um you know uh Jen said she's definitely old enough same same but I yeah that's such a great thing because you know it makes me think for those people who are so out loud with their identity even in the face of of not being similar to everyone around them like was it channeled?
• 34:06
  SPEAKER_00: Like what was it that made it okay and comfortable for them to be who they were no matter what other people would say because I'm sure there were lots of people saying what is wrong with her eyebrows?
• 34:19
  SPEAKER_00: Why are they like that?
• 34:21
  unknown: No kidding.
• 34:22
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah in the day I remember that yeah yeah I I love that you brought up Brooke Shield and her eyebrows.
• 34:27
  SPEAKER_00: This is just like this is really like I'm I'm giggling a little bit.
• 34:30
  SPEAKER_00: You already told me we were feeling a little silly today.
• 34:33
  SPEAKER_00: So this is good.
• 34:34
  SPEAKER_00: I like it it makes me think like yeah I mean I think there have been people who have been so comfortable and confident in their own skin that they just were willing to be out there.
• 34:47
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah so Brooke if you're listening please let us know.
• 34:51
  SPEAKER_00: Let us know and yay you a you and yeah you we're celebrating your your eyebrows and yeah everybody is into that now like right so oh yeah for sure it's fascinating it's fascinating and I and I think it is part of just this like global journey that we're on in terms of of healing and becoming more okay with being who we are you know being open to a wide range of identities and not saying you're either this or that that there it is a spectrum of identity for for wherever you want to place that um and we don't need to all look act feel the same way to be worthy and I I applaud anyone who is pushing towards that willingness to be more accepting and more open.
• 35:51
  SPEAKER_00: I know that's something that's super important to me um and not only for the community at large but for myself because I feel like I was you know a little bit of in that spiritual closet and like I I can nerd out on the science and people are gonna be like oh yeah that's okay like we can accept that but I can't nerd out on talking about things that are of the woo or the mystical nature because that's just a little weird and unacceptable.
• 36:24
  SPEAKER_00: Um but I it lights me up.
• 36:28
  SPEAKER_00: So we should all feel that comfort of can we go there and the things that light us up and just be loud and proud about it um regardless of whether other people can fully relate.
• 36:44
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 36:45
  SPEAKER_02: You know what I I think that I think you need to bring it absolutely I I I don't think that there's any other any other room for it.
• 36:54
  SPEAKER_02: You know it's it's kind of like any difference that we may feel between us and someone else if it's if it's a conversation worth having you know if you are invested in that relationship then by all means you know by all means and even if they don't get it you know the relationship will determine whether or not they want to know more or they don't right and we and we figure that out as we go.
• 37:20
  SPEAKER_02: I've told all kinds of people and they kind of you know some of them will get into conversation some of them just kind of okay and then that's the end of it right and that's the and that's okay that's that's where they are but I I want to and I I want to kind of bring in that um that practical piece that I mentioned earlier because that's always so important to me.
• 37:41
  SPEAKER_02: One of the things that I learned early on um and I love is that all spirit wants of us is to be true to ourselves.
• 37:53
  SPEAKER_02: Because when we're true to ourselves we are high vibe we're able to share that truth we're able to share that goodness and that unconditional love with other people and then they can go ahead and do what they what they need to with it and hopefully share it with somebody else.
• 38:08
  SPEAKER_02: So and and that's what for me that's what that's what opens up our gifts you know that's you know being there.
• 38:17
  SPEAKER_02: So so it is we do have more of a connection than sometimes we think with you know between people that are spiritual people who feel they're not you know we really we really have more in common than what we think yeah I love that I love that and I agree I think the more that we are acting as ourselves it gives other people permission um to be themselves and um I feel like that's the community that we're growing and that's the world that we're fostering that people can just be who they are.
• 38:56
  SPEAKER_00: We don't have to fit inside little boxes you know we don't have to take off the boxes.
• 39:01
  SPEAKER_00: This was always my my thing I grabbed on early on like oop I'm supposed to do this this this and this and in this particular order and once I check off all those boxes then I get to be happy you know not before not before yeah yeah you know that like quote unquote very like masculine energy of getting things done um but it was for me personally at the sacrifice of my physical mental health and um really felt disconnected from who I truly was.
• 39:40
  SPEAKER_00: So it was this building this self-loathing.
• 39:43
  SPEAKER_00: And so that's the thing that I think gets me excited now about being out loud.
• 39:49
  SPEAKER_00: I mean I've I've written in four books I'm writing in another one uh with Jen Piseno Wealth Codes and um you know being out loud about your story bravely you know those brave words that Laura DeFranco talks about um is very liberating and feels like where I'm supposed to be right now that I can release perfectionism and I can just tell my true story and be truly who I am in the moment.
• 40:24
  SPEAKER_00: And um you know we talked earlier about connecting meditating this morning and connecting with spirit guides whatever that happens to be inner self, higher self.
• 40:38
  SPEAKER_00: And the message for me was wherever you are just go deeper in that go deeper.
• 40:46
  SPEAKER_00: If you're gonna rest just rest like it's the most delicious rest you've ever had don't just relax just like really seep into it with with as much as you can you know if you're gonna be exercising be present if you're gonna do laundry be there um you know and so I think speaking to the practical I think that's that's a piece of it too that that presence and and where you are be there be in it.
• 41:16
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah yeah absolutely I I don't think that that is going to be something that people won't get yeah you know and that and that's common for all of us it it it is just being there.
• 41:27
  SPEAKER_00: It is yeah I'm not sure about the laundry piece I might skip over that one but but being there I I you I'm kidding because I love it I actually like to do laundry yes it's the dishes it's the dishes yeah it's the dishes it's the toilets yep yep yep yep a lot lots of things for me so funny so funny yeah well and and you know what there's a hack for that too that that's where I love to hijack my brain and so it becomes okay you don't enjoy doing the dishes but what if you could put on some 70s classic rock and dance around the kitchen while you're doing the dishes and it becomes something enjoyable pairing that that pleasurable that's you know hijack your nervous system trick yourself into believing this is what you really love to do.
• 42:22
  SPEAKER_02: But that's it like that's exactly what you were talking about earlier you know in terms of self-care that's right there in that moment let's make this enjoyable what are we focusing on what are we thinking about you know um what are we feeling right then so yeah dance your pants off while those dishes are you know you're doing the the dirtiest pot you can you know just crank them crank those tunes and go yeah yeah and yeah 70s 70s classic rock yes I know it's it's my jam that's my jam if I really need to like get myself into it.
• 42:54
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah um oh my gosh I love this so I want to give you some time to talk about all of the wonderful things you're doing the ways people can connect with you how they can work with you so um what do you have coming up oh my goodness so um book four as I said is in the works the chapters will be submitted this coming week so wow exciting um and um yeah they're amazing oh my gosh they're so amazing they are reminding me that this book is not just for men that it is also um it it's also for women because women will see a different kind of man on these pages because of the work that the that they have done and we can look for you know those of us that are looking for a partner can look for a man with those traits you know we don't we don't have to settle we could there are you know there are men out there that um that you know have combined some of the divine feminine and the with the divine masculine and are able to be different and be and to be more and more in relationships.
• 44:03
  SPEAKER_02: So that's that's what I'll say about that that guy's coming out in in August um so yeah very very excited about that um this coming week actually is the beginning of our writing for the heel of it class for this the and it will repeat as well um still have a spot or two left there so you know if you're interested in that it's six weeks two hours every week um and um and we go into not you know I mean it's it's deep work but it's deep work that you are you know that you identify that you're ready for you know it's not you know come in here we're gonna make you cry we're gonna you know we're gonna we're gonna take you right down to the trenches no we're gonna you know I'm gonna softly take you to where you really you know you identify that you want to be and just to release what's there you know so you write about it you release it you write some more you know and it's so it's all it's all driven by you so it's it's not tough work at all it's very uh Taurus energy I'll say nice um yeah so um and what else the certification program will repeat in September um I don't have anything out about that yet but it's coming really soon and um and that is certifying healers uh people that are already in healing professions holistic healing professions to um in find your voice so they become certified find your voice healers and the biggest kind of bonus of that um from my take is that it allows people like yourself or people who have um a a modality that they use or you know a gift again that they use um in their work now they can they can take that and they can you know either plug it into the model that I teach them uh in terms of working with their clients or they can plug the model into what they do already.
• 45:59
  SPEAKER_02: So it's very integrative.
• 46:01
  SPEAKER_02: Um, lots of good feedback on it.
• 46:04
  SPEAKER_02: And um, and I just love we have kind of a continuous working relationship with the with the certified folks, and um, so I love to see what they do with it, and um, you know, and and it's both because it's find your voice, it's both professional and personal.
• 46:20
  SPEAKER_02: Um, you know, we I don't think that we ever get to a point where we are, you know, we've oh we've got here we we have our voice.
• 46:27
  SPEAKER_02: We found our voice.
• 46:28
  SPEAKER_02: That's it, I'm done, I'm good.
• 46:29
  SPEAKER_02: You know, no, you know, there are always level like with any other growth, right?
• 46:34
  SPEAKER_02: There are always levels um that we that we decide that we need to shift into.
• 46:40
  SPEAKER_02: So so yeah, that's um that's the find your voice healer certification, and um, and I'm pumped about that.
• 46:46
  SPEAKER_02: And um, and I am considering, so if anybody has any interest in this, I'm considering book five.
• 46:53
  SPEAKER_02: Um and I'm considering it to be about uh relationships.
• 46:59
  SPEAKER_02: So the one plus one equals three concept.
• 47:03
  SPEAKER_02: And I know there are couples out there who um who can resonate with that.
• 47:10
  SPEAKER_00: Oh my gosh, that sounds exciting.
• 47:12
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 47:13
  SPEAKER_00: So would you have like the couple writing the chapter together?
• 47:17
  SPEAKER_02: Um, I don't think so.
• 47:19
  SPEAKER_02: Um I didn't consider that, but uh, you know, perhaps.
• 47:23
  SPEAKER_02: Um my my thought was one or the other, so it doesn't all have, you know, it doesn't have to be women necessarily, but you know, if guys want to talk about how, you know, how did they make it work?
• 47:32
  SPEAKER_02: How do they get to that place of you know, um having that relationship as a separate entity?
• 47:38
  SPEAKER_02: Um one that you know one that grows and um and and you know um is equally loving and supportive of both both of the ones, you know, one plus ones.
• 47:53
  SPEAKER_02: Um we get to be whole, the other partner gets to be whole, and that third entity is is the relationship.
• 47:59
  SPEAKER_02: So how do we get there?
• 48:00
  SPEAKER_02: How did you get there?
• 48:02
  SPEAKER_02: You know, so anyway, that's that's gonna be fun.
• 48:05
  SPEAKER_02: So if that happens, it'll be next year.
• 48:07
  SPEAKER_02: I haven't just kind of dropped the hammer on that one quite yet, but but that's going through my mind.
• 48:11
  SPEAKER_02: So if that's something that resonates with anybody, then find me because I'd love to hear about it.
• 48:15
  SPEAKER_02: I'd love to hear kind of your experience with it, and um, that'll help me.
• 48:19
  SPEAKER_00: Oh my gosh.
• 48:20
  SPEAKER_00: Get the hammer.
• 48:21
  SPEAKER_00: That sounds so exciting, so needed.
• 48:24
  SPEAKER_00: So you have to promise to come back and talk about that when that's about to launch and you're looking for people because I think that could be a whole podcast conversation too.
• 48:33
  SPEAKER_00: How one plus one can equal three in relationships.
• 48:36
  SPEAKER_00: I would love to dive deep into that conversation.
• 48:38
  SPEAKER_02: Cool.
• 48:39
  SPEAKER_02: Wow, too, with you.
• 48:40
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 48:41
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 48:42
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 48:42
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 48:43
  SPEAKER_02: So my stuff is um, you can find me at Diana at cravemorefe.com at two ends.
• 48:48
  SPEAKER_02: And um yeah, I'm happy to hear from anybody.
• 48:51
  SPEAKER_02: I do one to one, I do limited one-to-one work um because the other projects keep me keep me busier, but um yeah, I'd love to hear from you.
• 48:59
  SPEAKER_00: Oh my gosh.
• 49:00
  SPEAKER_00: Diana, I'm so thrilled that you were here with me this morning.
• 49:04
  SPEAKER_00: I think we dove into some really good topics and uh provided some practical options for people to be more present in their lives.
• 49:13
  SPEAKER_00: I want to thank all of my um Facebook viewers who are participating, Jen Piseno.
• 49:20
  SPEAKER_00: Um, and she did come up with a good term for our spiritual gift.
• 49:24
  SPEAKER_00: She said your superpowers.
• 49:25
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, which I think is fantastic.
• 49:27
  SPEAKER_00: I love that idea.
• 49:31
  SPEAKER_00: I love it.
• 49:31
  SPEAKER_00: She's great with words.
• 49:34
  SPEAKER_02: She is an awesome author.
• 49:35
  unknown: Yeah.
• 49:36
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 49:37
  SPEAKER_00: So um I really appreciate that.
• 49:39
  SPEAKER_00: That participation is super fun.
• 49:41
  SPEAKER_00: Um, and I want to thank all of you for listening, for supporting this podcast.
• 49:46
  SPEAKER_00: We're getting really close to um 300 downloads, which is like mind-blowing for me for this podcast.
• 49:54
  SPEAKER_00: It it started with just an idea.
• 49:57
  SPEAKER_00: Um, and I do have to shout out Jen Pisano who kind of like kicked me in the butt and was like, just do it.
• 50:03
  SPEAKER_00: And I was like, okay, I'm gonna just do it.
• 50:06
  SPEAKER_00: Um, and I wanted to let people know if you're interested in podcasting, you have an idea and you've never started the process to dive into it.
• 50:17
  SPEAKER_00: I am now offering a service where I will help you and coach you through from, you know, your concept to getting you on air and we'll cover everything.
• 50:27
  SPEAKER_00: So by the time we're done working together, your podcast is launched and ready to go.
• 50:33
  SPEAKER_00: So um I'll have information on that in the show notes, all the information on Diana, and I I only bring the best people on here.
• 50:42
  SPEAKER_00: So you can rest assured anything you do with Diana is gonna be of the highest caliber and for your highest good.
• 50:49
  SPEAKER_00: And I thank you again for being here, for being my friend, for all your support.
• 50:54
  SPEAKER_00: Um, and I celebrate you.
• 50:55
  SPEAKER_00: I'm so excited for everything coming next for you.
• 50:59
  SPEAKER_02: Thank you, thank you, thank you, Kelly.
• 51:01
  SPEAKER_02: You know, I really appreciate it.
• 51:02
  SPEAKER_02: I love you.
• 51:03
  SPEAKER_02: And um, I, you know, you're just you're a joy, and what you bring to the world is amazing.
• 51:08
  SPEAKER_02: So thank you for having me on and for yes, for being my friend.
• 51:12
  SPEAKER_02: Thank you so much.
• 51:13
  SPEAKER_00: Oh my gosh, gonna make me cry here.
• 51:16
  SPEAKER_02: All right.
• 51:17
  SPEAKER_02: In the moment, Kelly, in the moment.
• 51:20
  SPEAKER_00: Always, right?
• 51:21
  SPEAKER_00: Here I am.
• 51:22
  SPEAKER_00: I'm feeling it.
• 51:23
  SPEAKER_00: My heart is swelling and overwhelmed.
• 51:25
  SPEAKER_00: Thank you so much.
• 51:26
  SPEAKER_00: All right, everyone.
• 51:27
  SPEAKER_00: I encourage you to stay curious.
• 51:30
  SPEAKER_00: You never know where that curiosity is gonna lead you.
• 51:33
  SPEAKER_00: Have a great one, guys.
• 51:34
  SPEAKER_00: Bye for now.