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Wednesday 4pm hour 06/24/26 · Ron Verb

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  Speaker 1: At 570wkbn.
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  Speaker 2: Com.
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  Speaker 3: The end.
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  Speaker 1: Now, Ron Verb.
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  Speaker 3: On News Radio 570, WKBN. Well, good afternoon.
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  Speaker 4: 4.06 in the afternoon.
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  Speaker 1: It's Wednesday, June 24th at 79 degrees. Ron Verb with
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  Speaker 1: you till..
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  Speaker 3: Perhaps we get back to the game at some point.
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  Speaker 3: Rain delayed for the afternoon Guardians game. All right, so
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  Speaker 3: pick it up with where we were starting. You once
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  Speaker 3: explained to me why young people were, we say, what's
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  Speaker 3: this up with them voting Democrat socialism? And then you
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  Speaker 3: explained why capitalism and the baby boomers have made so
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  Speaker 3: many younger people disenchanted. Pick it up from there.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, it's a whole big package to unravel there. But, yeah,
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  Speaker 5: look who's paying the payroll right now. Look who's paying Medicare,
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  Speaker 5: Social Security, Medicaid. It's the younger people that are working.
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  Speaker 5: And older people, of course, you know, they work. They
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  Speaker 5: put in their time.
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  Speaker 6: For all that.
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  Speaker 5: We don't have as many workers paying into Social Security
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  Speaker 5: all those benefits. The younger generation is carrying the handle,
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  Speaker 5: the mantle for all this. He's like, oh, the younger generation,
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  Speaker 5: they don't want to work. They don't want to do anything. Well,
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  Speaker 5: it's a product of the environment that you were raised in.
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  Speaker 5: There's a lot of people out there that don't want
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  Speaker 5: to work and don't need to work because the government
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  Speaker 5: takes care of it for them.
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  Speaker 1: Watch money go.
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  Speaker 5: And I just don't understand where everything's at right now.
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  Speaker 5: The oil's down in the tanks as far as the
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  Speaker 5: price goes per barrel. It's still $ 4 a gallon. The war,
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  Speaker 5: nothing happened with it. We're right back to where we started.
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  Speaker 5: There's nuclear dust there. There isn't. We put a new
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  Speaker 5: tariff on them.
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  Speaker 6: We took it off.
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  Speaker 5: I was told that with all the tariffs from back
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  Speaker 5: in April of last year that we're going to take
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  Speaker 5: in all this money, those are gone. I love what
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  Speaker 5: Donald Trump stands for. I love everything that he wanted
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  Speaker 5: to do, but I'm not happy with what's going on.
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  Speaker 5: And the thing that makes me the most upset is
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  Speaker 5: that he's going to botch the whole thing for the midterms,
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  Speaker 5: and then he's going to be a lame duck president
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  Speaker 5: for two years because everybody, these young disenchanted individuals, that
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  Speaker 5: even if they do go out and vote, what are
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  Speaker 5: they going to do? Are they going to vote for
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  Speaker 5: the person that says, go out and work harder so
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  Speaker 5: that you can make more money? Or are they going
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  Speaker 5: to vote for the person that says, oh, tax those
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  Speaker 5: billionaires and take the money from them? Well, if you're
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  Speaker 5: living in New York City and you've got six roommates
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  Speaker 5: and you don't have a car and you're making $ 12
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  Speaker 5: an hour delivering for DoorDash, who do you think you're
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  Speaker 5: going to vote for? It's not going to get any better,
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  Speaker 5: but they think it's a short-term solution. And those people
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  Speaker 5: are just wackadoodle out there anyway. So add that on
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  Speaker 5: top of it, it makes it even worse.
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  Speaker 3: So what I interpreted from what you said initially, which
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  Speaker 3: I try to spin off on today, is to a
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  Speaker 3: certain extent a lot of young people feel capitalism is
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  Speaker 3: I don't want to say betrayed him, but it's not
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  Speaker 3: working for them. I'm going to use cliches. The rich
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  Speaker 3: keep getting richer. The gap keeps widening. And once again,
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  Speaker 3: they're saying, and they're looking at the baby boomers, I'll
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  Speaker 3: never be able to afford a house. It's getting more
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  Speaker 3: difficult to buy a car. Medical insurance is off the charts.
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  Speaker 3: And just to be able to afford medical insurance, and frankly,
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  Speaker 3: all the insurances, and the price of everything.
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  Speaker 4: So..
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  Speaker 3: So they're looking around saying, I'm not going to have
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  Speaker 3: the same lifestyle as the baby boomer generation. Look at
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  Speaker 3: what they've done to me, and look at the debt
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  Speaker 3: of the country. This is why, am I right? This
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  Speaker 3: is why they're pissed and they're saying, okay, this guy
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  Speaker 3: over here is talking about the inequality and all that
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  Speaker 3: kind of stuff, and they'll vote for that person.
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  Speaker 4: Right.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, what are you going to do if you've
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  Speaker 5: got 100 people you have to vote for? politicians.
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  Speaker 1: You need all their votes.
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  Speaker 5: Are you going to tell them what they need to
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  Speaker 5: hear or what they want to hear? It's just individual
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  Speaker 5: people are smart, but a collective group is pretty stupid,
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  Speaker 5: as evident in New York City and in New York,
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  Speaker 5: what happened the other night and throughout Seattle and all
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  Speaker 5: these other places.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, but didn't you define that pretty good to say, okay,
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  Speaker 3: how many of those people in New York are saying, well,
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  Speaker 3: I can't afford to ever buy a place to live
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  Speaker 3: and rent is out of control and finding a decent
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  Speaker 3: job is isn't that easy? I mean, they're just discouraged.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 5: And I mean, I don't know what the answer is now.
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  Speaker 5: Should anybody be a trillionaire? Should Elon Musk be a trillionaire?
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  Speaker 4: Is he today?
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  Speaker 3: No.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, I don't know the answer to that, but
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  Speaker 5: the best way to get rich is providing the most
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  Speaker 5: benefit to the most amount of people. So if Jeff
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  Speaker 5: Bezos puts stuff on your front door and within 48
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  Speaker 5: hours of your ordering it, he's helping a lot of people.
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  Speaker 5: He should be rich for that. If Elon Musk can
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  Speaker 5: put stuff in outer space and electric car and give
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  Speaker 5: you internet anywhere on earth, yeah, he should probably be
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  Speaker 5: rich for that too. I don't know if the fact,
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  Speaker 5: what are we supposed to do? Tell these people, hey,
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  Speaker 5: you can't make this much money. What do you think
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  Speaker 5: that's going to do to the incentives of true entrepreneurs
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  Speaker 5: in our country? It's just so hard nowadays to get
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  Speaker 5: a semi-truck that's sitting stagnant, and you've got to push
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  Speaker 5: it to get momentum for it to ever actually go.
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  Speaker 5: The problem is now younger people are starting way behind
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  Speaker 5: the eight ball before they even can get going.
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  Speaker 3: But often what you describe is the reasons unions were created,
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  Speaker 3: was it not? The guy that you're talking about is
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  Speaker 3: making all this money, but the worker is... is working
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  Speaker 3: her tail off and just barely surviving. And isn't that
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  Speaker 3: why labor unions were created, to try to get the
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  Speaker 3: worker a better piece of the pie? They would say, okay, Bezos,
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  Speaker 3: you're still going to be extremely rich or whatever, Elon Musk,
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  Speaker 3: but you've got to pay the guy that brings a
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  Speaker 3: package to your house enough money so he can survive,
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  Speaker 3: and you're not even going to miss it.
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  Speaker 5: Well, how much are the union workers at the GM
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  Speaker 5: plant making right now that's now idled.
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  Speaker 7: And shut down?
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  Speaker 5: That helped for them for, again, the boomers that were
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  Speaker 5: working there, making money out their ears, working on an
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  Speaker 5: assembly line, because they were all.
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  Speaker 8: In a union.
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  Speaker 5: Then it got slippery slope taken away to the point
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  Speaker 5: where they abused it, and now the place isn't even there.
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  Speaker 5: So they were making a lot of money then, and
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  Speaker 5: now they're making none now. Same with the GE plant
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  Speaker 5: in Erie. All these things that sound good in principle
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  Speaker 5: until eventually it doesn't work, the whole thing comes back to...
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  Speaker 5: The money is just so completely broken in our country.
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  Speaker 5: We're $ 40 trillion in debt, and I don't blame any
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  Speaker 5: individual baby boomer out there listening to this. I blame
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  Speaker 5: the politicians and the way that everything was set up
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  Speaker 5: to the point where, yeah, you could keep giving people
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  Speaker 5: these handouts and promises to them because you got elected,
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  Speaker 5: and then we just printed more money and kicked the
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  Speaker 5: can down the road. And eventually, I don't know when,
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  Speaker 5: but the poo-poo is going to hit the fan, and
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  Speaker 5: we might be able to do this for a lot longer.
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  Speaker 5: We can go $ 50 trillion in debt, $ 60 trillion, $ 70 trillion.
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  Speaker 5: I have no idea. But look what the new chairman
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  Speaker 5: of the Federal Reserve is doing. He's talking about possibly
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  Speaker 5: raising interest rates. What are raising interest rates on $ 40
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  Speaker 5: trillion in debt due to our national debt? You know,
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  Speaker 5: what does that do to our bonds, the value of
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  Speaker 5: our bonds that we try to sell to other countries?
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  Speaker 5: What does that do to the value of our currency?
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  Speaker 5: So what are we going to do, raise interest rates,
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  Speaker 5: make it even harder to buy a house, a car,
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  Speaker 5: go to school, all those things, so that you can
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  Speaker 5: actually get an education? Do we lower interest rates so
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  Speaker 5: that people can buy a house and buy a car easier,
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  Speaker 5: so that we can have inflation rip through the roof again?
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  Speaker 5: I mean, look what happened during COVID. You know, people's
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  Speaker 5: houses in the greater Youngstown community, some of them even died.
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  Speaker 5: doubled in price in the last, you know, five years.
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  Speaker 5: That house didn't do any more work to make that
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  Speaker 5: much more money. It's just that we printed so much
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  Speaker 5: money that the value was worth less and there were
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  Speaker 5: less homes. And there you go. It goes through the roof. Yeah,
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  Speaker 5: interest rates went down great. So every baby boomer that
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  Speaker 5: had a house and refinanced it at 2.8% and now
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  Speaker 5: is never going to move, well, where's the next person
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  Speaker 5: supposed to come in and get their starter home from?
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  Speaker 5: Starter homes now around here, you can't, I mean, for
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  Speaker 5: a nice one, a decent one, and yeah, you can live,
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  Speaker 5: you know, in a dilapidated home for $ 40, 000, but let's
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  Speaker 5: be realistic. You know, how is a 25-year-old supposed to
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  Speaker 5: come out of college $ 100, 000 in debt, okay, get married,
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  Speaker 5: start a family, and buy a house for a quarter
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  Speaker 5: of a million dollars with interest rates where they're at? So, yeah,
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  Speaker 5: it's not a good outlook for the younger generation right now.
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  Speaker 5: What are they supposed to do? Hopefully you have rich
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  Speaker 5: parents that can help you out. Hopefully you have a
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  Speaker 5: degree that can supersede the payments in your loans. Hopefully
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  Speaker 5: you can drive a car that, you know, again, can
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  Speaker 5: work for you and not have to buy a new one.
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  Speaker 5: It's just, it's harder and harder and harder. If you
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  Speaker 5: have five kids, and I've said this before, if you
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  Speaker 5: have five kids now, you're either on the dole or
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  Speaker 5: you're an ex-professional athlete. And I mean, yeah, you could
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  Speaker 5: do it. I'm not talking about the rare outliers there,
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  Speaker 5: but generally in greater society, it's very hard to do
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  Speaker 5: that nowadays because who's going to take care of them?
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  Speaker 5: You're going to send them to daycare? Are you going
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  Speaker 5: to pay the fees for the daycare worker? You better
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  Speaker 5: send them to a good daycare, too, because, hey, do
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  Speaker 5: you want to work at a daycare and take care
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  Speaker 5: of 30 screaming diaper-filled babies and get paid, like, you
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  Speaker 5: know what, minimum wage?
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  Speaker 2: No.
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  Speaker 5: So are they going to take care of your kids?
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  Speaker 5: So you've got to have your wife stay home so
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  Speaker 5: that she can take care of them. And then, hey, look,
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  Speaker 5: there goes half your income right there. The only reason
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  Speaker 5: that in the 70s inflation got stifled was because we
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  Speaker 5: raised interest rates so high, and everybody forgets that everybody
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  Speaker 5: took that other player off the bench and sent him
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  Speaker 5: to work. Before the 70s, how many wives went and
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  Speaker 5: worked full-time jobs? Inflation got fixed because people's wives started
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  Speaker 5: going to work, and then that helped. I mean, I
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  Speaker 5: can't have somebody else move into my house and split
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  Speaker 5: the bills with me. I can't have two or three.
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  Speaker 5: I don't want three roommates. And that's what's going on.
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  Speaker 5: It gets harder and harder and harder. And then people
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  Speaker 5: get disenfranchised and disillusioned. They vote for these crazy radical leftists.
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  Speaker 2: And you know what?
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  Speaker 5: At the end of the day, I'm not very happy,
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  Speaker 5: like I said, with Donald Trump and what he's done
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  Speaker 5: the first two years. I'm not happy with the tariffs
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  Speaker 5: and the way that went. I'm not happy that he's
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  Speaker 5: not putting the American worker first. I'm not happy that
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  Speaker 5: we're over fighting foreign wars. I'm not happy that gas
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  Speaker 5: went up.
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  Speaker 1: And you know what?
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  Speaker 5: I could care less about the Lincoln Memorial Reflecting Pool.
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  Speaker 5: I went to Washington, D.C. just a couple weeks ago,
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  Speaker 5: and I went by and I looked at it.
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  Speaker 3: You know what?
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  Speaker 5: There's still algae there. You put in a blue pool cover,
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  Speaker 5: and there's no filtration on it. How did you not
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  Speaker 5: think their algae was going to grow through it? I mean,
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  Speaker 5: the fact that this is our focus right now really
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  Speaker 5: grinds my gears. Because, again, I was told that we
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  Speaker 5: were going to actually start doing stuff in this country
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  Speaker 5: and fix it. And the guy's gotten shot. He's gotten
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  Speaker 5: shot once. He's gotten shot out multiple times. You can't
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  Speaker 5: get within three blocks of the White House now because
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  Speaker 5: of how much security is going on there. Do you
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  Speaker 5: think the next person who says, you know what, I
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  Speaker 5: want to try to fix this is going to run
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  Speaker 5: for the presidency? Only a narcissist would run for president
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  Speaker 5: at this point because you want the fame and glory.
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  Speaker 5: All these political positions now, it's just a popularity contest.
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  Speaker 5: So I don't know how the stuff gets fixed. But
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  Speaker 5: like Dave Thomas said, even in the state of Ohio, unfortunately,
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  Speaker 5: sometimes you need an enormous crisis to actually have things
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  Speaker 5: get so bad that they could be fixed. And until
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  Speaker 5: things get absolutely so bad, I don't know how they're
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  Speaker 5: going to get fixed. And the thing is, again, I'll
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  Speaker 5: say it, we're $ 40 trillion in debt. Is that stuff
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  Speaker 5: going to hit the fan next year?
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  Speaker 4: I don't know.
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  Speaker 5: Is it going to hit it in 10 years? I
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  Speaker 5: have no clue. But we're going to keep devaluing and depreciating.
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  Speaker 5: When we trade our time for money, we're going to
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  Speaker 5: be making nominally less and less money. You might see
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  Speaker 5: more dollar bills in your account, but they're going to
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  Speaker 5: buy you less and less and get you less and less.
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  Speaker 5: So when you save now as a younger person, is
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  Speaker 5: it even going to be worth the same when you're older?
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  Speaker 5: And the baby boomers, I'll tell you, you guys have
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  Speaker 5: been dealing with the same thing, too. When you traded
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  Speaker 5: your time for labor in the 70s and 80s, it's
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  Speaker 5: not worth nearly what it is now. You've been screwed, too.
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  Speaker 5: It's just not as much as the younger generation has. And, unfortunately,
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  Speaker 5: now the can's getting kicked down, and we're the ones
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  Speaker 5: paying the bill for it now. And we're the ones
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  Speaker 5: that are going to suffer the consequences.
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  Speaker 3: Well said. Thank you, Alec. Appreciate it. NewsRadio 570.
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  Speaker 1: Very well said.
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  Speaker 3: You're on the air.
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  Speaker 4: Ron, kudos to Alex. I agree with him 100%. I
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  Speaker 4: had to work yesterday.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, he's just trying to explain when people said, well,
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  Speaker 3: we don't understand as democratic socialists how they're getting all
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  Speaker 3: these young people votes. Well, I think he's trying to
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  Speaker 3: say this is when young people look around what they're seeing.
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  Speaker 4: Well, I wanted to call today because I worked yesterday,
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  Speaker 4: so I listened to your podcast today. Yes. And Ted,
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  Speaker 4: at the end of his conversation with you yesterday, said,
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  Speaker 4: referenced me and said he wanted to talk about it.
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  Speaker 4: He wanted me to talk about Amy Acton and what
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  Speaker 4: she's going to do for H-1B basis. And let me
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  Speaker 4: make it very clear. I'm voting for Vivek Ramaswamy. I'd
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  Speaker 4: vote for him a thousand times if I could. When
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  Speaker 4: I talk about the H-1Bs, I'm talking about my kids
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  Speaker 4: who are 24 and 26. They're both engineers. Good jobs
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  Speaker 4: make good money. But just like Alex... They're very, very
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  Speaker 4: disenchanted with Trump and the Republican Party right now for
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  Speaker 4: basically the same reasons that he just enumerated. And with Alex,
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  Speaker 4: at least, I know what he does for a living,
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  Speaker 4: and he doesn't really have to worry about too many
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  Speaker 4: H-1B visas coming for him, but a lot of these
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  Speaker 4: people do. And that's why, you know, they don't like
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  Speaker 4: Amy Acton. They don't like her policies. But they're not
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  Speaker 4: voting for Vivek because they don't like the fact that
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  Speaker 4: Vivek wants to import more Indians and put those Indians
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  Speaker 4: in direct competition for American jobs.
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  Speaker 3: So they're looking and saying, listen, they went out and
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  Speaker 3: got an education, and they're engineers, and their biggest worry
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  Speaker 3: or threat is that Vivek wants to bring in people
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  Speaker 3: from India that do their job less well. expensive than
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  Speaker 3: they are, and they'll be out of work, and they
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  Speaker 3: can't vote for him because it's about voting for survival,
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  Speaker 3: and they think odds are better with her as opposed
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  Speaker 3: to him.
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  Speaker 4: My daughter sends me articles every day about all these
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  Speaker 4: tech companies, Google, all of them, you know, Google, Tesla,
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  Speaker 4: all of them, about how they're complaining they need H-1Bs.
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  Speaker 4: They tell you how they need the H-1B visas. Then
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  Speaker 4: there will be an article that they laid off 300
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  Speaker 4: of their own people. Yet they, last year, they hired...
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  Speaker 4: maybe three or four hundred five hundred thousands of h
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  Speaker 4: one dv or our workers into the laying off americans
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  Speaker 4: at the same time they can't hire for sastra and
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  Speaker 4: so they're they're just kicked off about it there in
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  Speaker 4: the you know in the in the fact that it's
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  Speaker 4: not being addressed though you know the there's a lot
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  Speaker 4: of times people want issue voters and that's that's the
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  Speaker 4: issue you know they're looking out for the world where
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  Speaker 4: were their own economic best interest If you get a chance,
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  Speaker 4: I sent you a video today. My daughter sent it
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  Speaker 4: to me. It was about 11 years ago about the
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  Speaker 4: future of horses and the future of humans.
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  Speaker 3: I watched part of it.
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  Speaker 4: It's dead spot on, didn't you think?
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  Speaker 3: Yes. I've got to finish it, but I watched a
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  Speaker 3: good chunk of it, and I think it's covering a
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  Speaker 3: lot of what happened with history. My question, Alex, was
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  Speaker 3: I think a lot of younger people feel capitalism has
• 15:11
  Speaker 3: betrayed them. And they're looking around, and that's why there's
• 15:15
  Speaker 3: this anger with baby boomers. Stand by for one second.
• 15:18
  Speaker 3: Let me come back to you in a minute and
• 15:20
  Speaker 3: pick it up there. Callers in line, stand by. Ron Verb,
• 15:22
  Speaker 3: Kingdom of Mahoning, after this. News Radio 570, WKBN. So
• 15:29
  Speaker 3: the thing with Alex, and that I would say to you,
• 15:31
  Speaker 3: is so many of these young people think that capitalism
• 15:34
  Speaker 3: has failed them and the baby boomers have failed them.
• 15:36
  Speaker 3: You always hear people talk about the gap is getting
• 15:39
  Speaker 3: too wide between the haves and the have-nots. And maybe
• 15:42
  Speaker 3: there's some truth to that based on what you're seeing.
• 15:44
  Speaker 4: They're not wrong. I mean, if you look at wages
• 15:48
  Speaker 4: over the last 30 or 40 years, the upper 5%
• 15:52
  Speaker 4: have made out like bandits, while the average middle-class person
• 15:57
  Speaker 4: is not keeping up with inflation. You've got raises, but
• 16:00
  Speaker 4: if you look at what your raise is versus what
• 16:03
  Speaker 4: inflation is, you're not keeping up.
• 16:06
  Speaker 3: Is it fair for me to say..
• 16:08
  Speaker 4: I have no complaint.
• 16:09
  Speaker 3: Right, but is it fair for me to say that's
• 16:11
  Speaker 3: really almost reminds me of why unions were started many,
• 16:15
  Speaker 3: many years ago? I mean, that's why labor unions came about.
• 16:18
  Speaker 4: Yep, it's why I'm actually, I'm as conservative as I am,
• 16:23
  Speaker 4: I'm a pro-union guy. Because somebody's got to stick up
• 16:26
  Speaker 4: for the guy that's showing up for work every day
• 16:28
  Speaker 4: because the company's... are only going to do what they
• 16:31
  Speaker 4: can do to maximize their profitability. And if they don't
• 16:34
  Speaker 4: have to pay more than what they're paying, they're not
• 16:36
  Speaker 4: going to. I've seen it. I went from a huge
• 16:41
  Speaker 4: shortage of pharmacists where we were getting gigantic raises for
• 16:44
  Speaker 4: the first 15 years of my career. The last 15
• 16:47
  Speaker 4: to 20, we've been subinflationary. Now, we still make really
• 16:51
  Speaker 4: good money, so I shouldn't complain. But every year, I
• 16:54
  Speaker 4: take a pay cut because the raise that I get
• 16:56
  Speaker 4: is less than what inflation is. And it's been that
• 16:59
  Speaker 4: way for 12, 13 years. And there's a lot of
• 17:02
  Speaker 4: people out there like that. If you're getting a 1%
• 17:04
  Speaker 4: or 2% raise a year, I think Walgreens went like
• 17:07
  Speaker 4: 5 or 6 years. They didn't give their pharmacists any raise.
• 17:11
  Speaker 4: And that's just one industry, but that's across the country.
• 17:15
  Speaker 4: I was listening to your podcast yesterday. You had guys
• 17:18
  Speaker 4: talking from Schwebel's, and they were talking about having good
• 17:21
  Speaker 4: union jobs that were paying like $ 19 or $ 20 an hour.
• 17:25
  Speaker 4: That's not a lot of money. I mean, I don't know.
• 17:28
  Speaker 4: My father was a welder for commercial shearing back in
• 17:32
  Speaker 4: the 80s before he passed away, and I don't know
• 17:35
  Speaker 4: what he was making, but I can guarantee you adjusted
• 17:37
  Speaker 4: for inflation was a heck of a lot more than that.
• 17:40
  Speaker 4: And those jobs are gone. You look around. Go walk
• 17:46
  Speaker 4: through Walmart. Walk through a grocery store. Walk through any
• 17:49
  Speaker 4: retailer and start adding up the cost of staples. Look
• 17:53
  Speaker 4: at gasoline. Look at just your utilities. Just live in
• 17:56
  Speaker 4: your house. Go on the property tax thing. Just to
• 18:00
  Speaker 4: live in your house, even if you own it.
• 18:02
  Speaker 3: We paid ourselves last year.
• 18:05
  Speaker 4: I think I'm still like $ 1, 300 or $ 1, 400 a month
• 18:06
  Speaker 4: just to live in my house.
• 18:08
  Speaker 3: Right. So when you look at the monthly property taxes,
• 18:10
  Speaker 3: the electric bill, the natural gas bill, the groceries, just
• 18:18
  Speaker 3: your living expenses, just to live there, if you don't
• 18:21
  Speaker 3: have house payments, just add all that up and how
• 18:24
  Speaker 3: much it costs a month just to have the roof
• 18:25
  Speaker 3: over your head.
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: Yep.
• 18:29
  Speaker 4: And then start thinking about these people that are making
• 18:31
  Speaker 4: $ 20 an hour, if they're lucky, trying to live and
• 18:35
  Speaker 4: exist and raise a family and kids in that environment.
• 18:37
  Speaker 4: And that's where Alex is at. I mean, like you said,
• 18:42
  Speaker 4: he's making very, very good money. But then you start
• 18:44
  Speaker 4: looking at it. Number one, if you're making a decent buck,
• 18:48
  Speaker 4: nobody has a pension anymore. So those are gone. So
• 18:51
  Speaker 4: if you're going to retire... You should be basically putting 15%
• 18:55
  Speaker 4: to 20% of your gross in your 401k every single day,
• 18:59
  Speaker 4: every single week.
• 18:59
  Speaker 3: If you can afford to do so.
• 19:02
  Speaker 4: Yeah, well, I mean, if not, when you retire, you're
• 19:04
  Speaker 4: not going to be able to afford to retire.
• 19:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but in many cases, people are saying they've got
• 19:08
  Speaker 3: to live, too. It depends what you make.
• 19:10
  Speaker 4: Well, it does. And, I mean, then you start looking
• 19:14
  Speaker 4: at what kills you with the young people that come in.
• 19:17
  Speaker 4: We've got a lot of young technicians here. The first
• 19:19
  Speaker 4: thing they do before they come to work, they stop
• 19:21
  Speaker 4: at either Starbucks or Dunkin' Donuts, and every day they're
• 19:23
  Speaker 4: buying a coffee and tater tots or whatever. It's like
• 19:27
  Speaker 4: a $ 10, $ 12 little mini meal before you even get
• 19:30
  Speaker 4: to work. But if you bring that up to them,
• 19:34
  Speaker 4: they're like, oh, they call you a boomer because you
• 19:37
  Speaker 4: don't understand their generation. But kudos to Alex. I mean,
• 19:42
  Speaker 4: when he was going off about that, if you were
• 19:44
  Speaker 4: to talk to any of my children, they would tell
• 19:46
  Speaker 4: you the exact same thing. And it's not that they're hurting. economically.
• 19:50
  Speaker 4: All three of them have really good jobs. It's just
• 19:52
  Speaker 4: they see it for their generation, and they're very pessimistic
• 19:55
  Speaker 4: about the future of the country that their generation is facing,
• 19:58
  Speaker 4: especially at $ 40 trillion in debt. Amen.
• 20:01
  Speaker 3: Well said. Thank you, Rich. Appreciate it.
• 20:04
  Speaker 4: Take care, Ron.
• 20:05
  Speaker 3: I mean, you always got to understand why things are
• 20:08
  Speaker 3: happening the way they're happening. 428 in the afternoon, NewsRadio 570,
• 20:12
  Speaker 3: Dodie Coon.
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: You're on the air.
• 20:15
  Speaker 8: Yeah, hi. I think that blaming the debt and blaming
• 20:21
  Speaker 8: government and blaming all of that and asking the government
• 20:24
  Speaker 8: to do everything for you, I think that's kind of,
• 20:30
  Speaker 8: The newer, young person, almost lazy.
• 20:34
  Speaker 3: Stand by. Stand by. I'm going to come right back
• 20:37
  Speaker 3: to you after the break. Stay tuned. Ah, yes. News
• 20:40
  Speaker 3: Radio 570. Dodie Kivian and Ron Ferb. 433 in the afternoon.
• 20:44
  Speaker 3: All right, go ahead.
• 20:45
  Speaker 8: Yeah, I guess I get a little triggered when we
• 20:48
  Speaker 8: talk about the boomers, of which I am a young boomer,
• 20:52
  Speaker 8: I guess. But, you know, the starter home. No, you
• 20:57
  Speaker 8: buy a fixer-upper. You don't pay somebody to do it.
• 21:00
  Speaker 8: You do it yourself. And nobody should complain if they've
• 21:04
  Speaker 8: never worked a full-time job and then took a second job,
• 21:07
  Speaker 8: not two jobs, a second job at night to save
• 21:12
  Speaker 8: money for a house. Don't complain. If you've got multiple
• 21:15
  Speaker 8: tattoos that you're spending hundreds of thousands, maybe thousands of
• 21:19
  Speaker 8: dollars on, I don't want to hear it. Okay? They
• 21:22
  Speaker 8: spend their money on different things. It's like you said,
• 21:26
  Speaker 8: a $ 10 coffee every morning. because they think they deserve it.
• 21:30
  Speaker 8: If you've ever gone on a destination bachelor party to
• 21:36
  Speaker 8: Las Vegas for some... I don't want to hear it,
• 21:39
  Speaker 8: because we didn't do those things. We put all our
• 21:42
  Speaker 8: money and all our effort into working hard and fixing
• 21:47
  Speaker 8: up the house and worrying about the neighborhood. I bought
• 21:51
  Speaker 8: the eyesore of the neighborhood. We did all the work ourselves.
• 21:55
  Speaker 8: The neighbors were offering to help us.
• 21:58
  Speaker 6: Do you need a ladder?
• 21:58
  Speaker 8: Do you need this? They were so happy to see it.
• 22:01
  Speaker 8: The problem is we've left all the eyesores of the neighborhood.
• 22:06
  Speaker 8: It's just now people just let them go, even if
• 22:10
  Speaker 8: they just bulldoze them. I mean, and so there's all
• 22:14
  Speaker 8: of those homes. Don't we wish we had some of
• 22:17
  Speaker 8: those older homes that we could give to young people
• 22:20
  Speaker 8: so they could, you know, turn around neighborhoods and turn
• 22:23
  Speaker 8: around this? I see a lot of it, but they
• 22:26
  Speaker 8: don't want that. They want what you have. And they
• 22:31
  Speaker 8: don't want to wait and have it be their third
• 22:34
  Speaker 8: or fourth home. They want it kind of now, as
• 22:38
  Speaker 8: well as, you know, if you've ever went abroad. I
• 22:42
  Speaker 8: was never on an airplane until I was left for
• 22:45
  Speaker 8: my honeymoon, okay? They live a different life.
• 22:51
  Speaker 4: And, you.
• 22:53
  Speaker 3: Know..
• 22:54
  Speaker 8: So I just don't like to hear the complaint.
• 23:00
  Speaker 3: So basically, you're saying it wasn't that easy for baby
• 23:06
  Speaker 3: boomers as they think it was. It wasn't that easy.
• 23:10
  Speaker 3: And you had a lot less and there were a
• 23:14
  Speaker 3: lot more sacrifices versus younger people today.
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: I got it.
• 23:18
  Speaker 8: Absolutely, and my mother always said to me, she goes,
• 23:21
  Speaker 8: if you wait until you can afford to have children,
• 23:23
  Speaker 8: you'll never have them.
• 23:24
  Speaker 3: That's true.
• 23:24
  Speaker 8: Nobody ever thinks they can afford to have them.
• 23:27
  Speaker 3: Well, that's true, and that's why, hey, as I say,
• 23:30
  Speaker 3: that's why you shouldn't wait. The best thing in life...
• 23:35
  Speaker 3: The best thing in life is when you have children.
• 23:39
  Speaker 3: I mean, it's the most rewarding part.
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: Oh, no.
• 23:40
  Speaker 8: The best thing in life is when you have grandchildren.
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: All right.
• 23:44
  Speaker 3: Thanks for your call.
• 23:44
  Speaker 8: That's even better.
• 23:45
  Speaker 9: I appreciate it.
• 23:46
  Speaker 8: But you'll have that soon. Okay.
• 23:47
  Speaker 4: Thanks.
• 23:48
  Speaker 3: You're on the air.
• 23:49
  Speaker 7: Previous caller stole my thunder. The idea that capitalism is
• 23:59
  Speaker 7: what's doing everybody wrong in today's generation is Kind of ridiculous.
• 24:04
  Speaker 7: My dad always told me, he goes, you know, if
• 24:07
  Speaker 7: you're willing to work, you're always going to have a job.
• 24:11
  Speaker 7: And he was right, because there was a time when,
• 24:13
  Speaker 7: you know, I couldn't find the time in my day
• 24:18
  Speaker 7: to get up and go to work, and I didn't
• 24:19
  Speaker 7: have a job. But kids today, they look at what
• 24:26
  Speaker 7: we have and, well, I want a house like that. Well,
• 24:29
  Speaker 7: and You're 55, and you've got a good credit rating,
• 24:33
  Speaker 7: and you can apply for a loan and make a
• 24:36
  Speaker 7: down payment and get yourself a house like that. But
• 24:42
  Speaker 7: you're not going to do it right now unless you
• 24:43
  Speaker 7: have some sort of a windfall. You're going to have
• 24:46
  Speaker 7: to find out the hard way, just like everybody else, well,
• 24:49
  Speaker 7: the way my family did. We didn't have anything given
• 24:52
  Speaker 7: to us except a work ethic and an example of
• 24:55
  Speaker 7: how two parents who lived their lives Mom would wait
• 24:59
  Speaker 7: tables for Christmas money to make her car payment. Dad
• 25:03
  Speaker 7: worked in a steel mill for 39 1⁄2 years. But,
• 25:05
  Speaker 7: you know, you don't hear kids talking about, I want
• 25:10
  Speaker 7: to go work hard. I just want to have that.
• 25:14
  Speaker 7: But I guess that's all I've got to.
• 25:17
  Speaker 8: Say, Ron.
• 25:18
  Speaker 10: Thanks.
• 25:19
  Speaker 3: Thank you for saying it. News Radio 570. WKBN, you're
• 25:22
  Speaker 3: on the air.
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: Hello.
• 25:23
  Speaker 4: Hey, I'm with these baby boomers.
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: I used to own my own business. I think I've
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: talked to you quite a few times. And the problem is, too,
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: with the American people, when things started coming from China,
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: instead of setting them back on the shelves and giving
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: their neighbors jobs, I mean, at one time, GE and
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: Erie employed over around 30,000 people, they were assembling irons, coasters, refrigerators, stoves,
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: and the like. Well, along comes free trade with China,
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: and what happens? All those jobs went overseas. What happened
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: to those people? When I had my own company, and
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: I had employees paying them between $ 75, 000 and $ 85, 000 a year.
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: And they had good jobs. And what happens to the company?
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: Everything went to China. Toolmaking all went to China. Now
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: there's hardly any toolmaking. And the kids, even when I
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: had my company, you get someone from college, they come
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: in and demand the big dollars. And I said, listen,
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: this is what I'm going to pay you, take it
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: or leave it, because you're probably going to screw things
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: up and cost me money. I'd hire them. They didn't
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: do one good thing in three or four months, and
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: they're gone. And kids now think that everything should come
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: to them. And part of the problem is the COVID times,
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: people are sitting home getting paid to play video games.
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: 80 years old, or going to be 80, I'm going
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: to be getting a heart valve, and I'm not supposed
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: to be doing anything. Well, guess what I'm doing? I'm
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: working because I have to. I don't have a choice.
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: I was a millionaire at one time, and now I'm
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: on Social Security and having to work out with the Amish.
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: doing landscaping and stuff to make ends meet. So how
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: do you think I feel? I'm a baby boomer. I
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: worked my full head off all my life, was born
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: and raised on a farm, went in the tool and
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: dye trade, and made good. But that was destroyed by
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: our government, and I do believe I blame the American
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: people for buying China crap and putting their neighbors out
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: of work. And it doesn't matter about unions. The tool
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: and die trade never had unions. And what did the
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: unions do when they started shipping everything over to China?
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: They went right along with it.
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: All right.
• 28:34
  Speaker 3: I've got to move along. I'm running out of time.
• 28:35
  Speaker 3: Thank you. You're on the air.
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: Ron?
• 28:39
  Speaker 4: Yes?
• 28:39
  Speaker 11: Hi. Calling in, I thought Rich was great, and I
• 28:45
  Speaker 11: agreed with his points, and I think that that's the
• 28:47
  Speaker 11: crux of the problem, even when it comes to levies.
• 28:49
  Speaker 11: These people are not going to vote themselves out of
• 28:52
  Speaker 11: a benefit. And then you couple that with the fact
• 28:56
  Speaker 11: that we have $ 45 billion general fund in the state
• 29:02
  Speaker 11: of Ohio, and all of these grants that are ridiculous,
• 29:07
  Speaker 11: and the duplicity is outrageous. I don't know if you've
• 29:11
  Speaker 11: seen some of them, you know, that we're, we're, we send,
• 29:14
  Speaker 11: you know, our state reps go to, you know, they
• 29:17
  Speaker 11: take our, our tax dollars, our income tax, sales tax,
• 29:20
  Speaker 11: you know, all our income tax is going to Ohio.
• 29:24
  Speaker 11: Then our reps get in our cars and they drive
• 29:27
  Speaker 11: up there just to, you know, scream to bring it
• 29:31
  Speaker 11: back to the County that it was taken from. And,
• 29:34
  Speaker 11: you know, we're getting to the point where I've said
• 29:36
  Speaker 11: it for months now, it's socialism for Trails, fairgrounds, innovation hubs,
• 29:43
  Speaker 11: sporting complexes, all these countless programs after programs after programs. Meanwhile,
• 29:50
  Speaker 11: you've got homeowners and retirees that are working hard to
• 29:56
  Speaker 11: keep their heads afloat with all the rising costs. $ 45
• 30:00
  Speaker 11: billion in the general fund, and they continue to say
• 30:03
  Speaker 11: that they can't fund schools. And that's not even with
• 30:06
  Speaker 11: touching all of the fraud. So we've got a major problem.
• 30:13
  Speaker 11: And I think Rich's point is extremely valid. And I
• 30:17
  Speaker 11: think that you do have that issue with some of
• 30:19
  Speaker 11: these younger kids that are struggling to find a job on.
• 30:22
  Speaker 4: Top of it all.
• 30:23
  Speaker 11: But then you've got the other people. You've got the
• 30:25
  Speaker 11: top 5% are doing very well. And they don't care.
• 30:28
  Speaker 11: They'll still vote for the park because they want the park.
• 30:31
  Speaker 11: Then you've got the people that are struggling, but they're
• 30:33
  Speaker 11: not going to vote against anything that gives them a benefit.
• 30:39
  Speaker 11: We are walking towards socialism every single day. People really, really,
• 30:43
  Speaker 11: really need to wake up. And this right now, we
• 30:45
  Speaker 11: have an opportunity to at least take them out of
• 30:47
  Speaker 11: our homes. And that's why I'm so passionate about abolishing
• 30:50
  Speaker 11: property taxes, because this is the one opportunity that we
• 30:54
  Speaker 11: had before us. Um, to at least kick them the
• 30:58
  Speaker 11: heck out of our homes and give us money back.
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: Did you see, I.
• 31:01
  Speaker 3: Mentioned to you where Trumbull County is talking about voting
• 31:05
  Speaker 3: sometime this week on those two issues?
• 31:07
  Speaker 11: Yeah, I did see that. I hope they do the
• 31:11
  Speaker 11: right thing.
• 31:12
  Speaker 3: Until it happens. I read the article. I want to
• 31:15
  Speaker 3: see it happen and get in the right spot. I've
• 31:19
  Speaker 3: got to cut it short because the game is going
• 31:20
  Speaker 3: to be coming on shortly.
• 31:21
  Speaker 8: Okay.
• 31:22
  Speaker 3: Thank you, dear. All right, you're on the air.
• 31:25
  Speaker 6: Hey, Ron, thanks for taking my call. Sounds like a
• 31:27
  Speaker 6: lot of your callers are blaming young kids today.
• 31:29
  Speaker 4: Well, I'm a parent.
• 31:30
  Speaker 6: My wife and I are proud parents of a couple
• 31:32
  Speaker 6: of the young kids today.
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 31:34
  Speaker 6: A 15-year-old and a 20-year-old. And let me tell you what.
• 31:37
  Speaker 5: I don't blame the kids.
• 31:38
  Speaker 6: I blame the parents.
• 31:38
  Speaker 4: That's who has to be accountable.
• 31:40
  Speaker 6: My 20-year-old has learned a strong work ethic from me
• 31:43
  Speaker 6: and my wife. He has two jobs, and he's going
• 31:45
  Speaker 6: to YSU. So I think a lot of it may
• 31:49
  Speaker 6: not necessarily be the child, but it might be the
• 31:51
  Speaker 6: deadbeat parents. Um, and the other thing I want to
• 31:54
  Speaker 6: say for the guy that called earlier, he was a
• 31:56
  Speaker 6: millionaire and now he's working in these eighties. I'm nowhere
• 31:59
  Speaker 6: near a millionaire, but I can tell you if I was,
• 32:01
  Speaker 6: I wouldn't be, uh, frivolously spending my money. Uh, so
• 32:04
  Speaker 6: I don't have it when I'm 80. So instead of
• 32:06
  Speaker 6: blaming other people, I think we all need to be
• 32:08
  Speaker 6: accountable and look at our own lives and what we're doing.
• 32:11
  Speaker 6: Stop pushing the blame and be more accountable for yourself.
• 32:15
  Speaker 3: Thank you for your thoughts. I got to pause. I
• 32:16
  Speaker 3: appreciate it. All right. Well stated. Ron verb news, radio
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• 32:24
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• 32:27
  Speaker 3: the rain has passed. The Guardians are standing by. Ron
• 32:30
  Speaker 3: Verb from the Kingdom of Mahoning, NewsRadio 570 WKBN. Let's
• 32:34
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• 32:38
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  Speaker 1: at 2-10 Cleveland time, but we will be starting way
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: later than that, and we will have baseball, though. That's
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: the good thing, is these teams will be able to play.
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: Looks like we have the proverbial window to get this
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: game in. Tom Hamilton is off for a good portion
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: of this road swing. He'll be back on Friday when
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: the team returns home to take on the Seattle Mariners,
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: and joining us here in Chicago this week has been...
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: two-time all-star Jason Kipnis former Cleveland Indian who provided a
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: lot of highlights for fans back home and Kip we've
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: seen two close games and the Guardians trying to salvage
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: a finale here today and once again they'll need the
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: good pitching this time from Tanner Bybee.
• 33:47
  Speaker 9: Well they've been getting good pitching from their stars for
• 33:49
  Speaker 9: a while I think it's important for this offense to
• 33:51
  Speaker 9: kind of put their foot down and score some runs
• 33:53
  Speaker 9: for their starting pitching and come out with a win.
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: You can't let a team sweep you ever, so this
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: is a big one for us. And they're trying to
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: adjust to life without three of their top hitters, including
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: Jose Ramirez. You've seen a couple of games here, and
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: what's been jumping out to you for a younger lineup?
• 34:07
  Speaker 9: They're going to have to create some runs. They're going
• 34:10
  Speaker 9: to have to get a little bit more experience with
• 34:12
  Speaker 9: runners in scoring position. I think you're going to have
• 34:14
  Speaker 9: to be a little bit more selective, but they're more
• 34:17
  Speaker 9: than capable.
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: This is still a major league lineup.
• 34:19
  Speaker 9: There's still guys who are having good at bats, putting
• 34:21
  Speaker 9: on good swings on some balls, but you just want
• 34:22
  Speaker 9: to see them kind of take advantage when they get
• 34:24
  Speaker 9: the runners on base.
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: That's something that they haven't done yet this series too much. And,
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: of course, a key today, adjusting to a different start
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: time when you have a rain delay. What did you
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: like to do to make sure you were ready to
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: play whenever you could play?
• 34:36
  Speaker 9: I'd like to take naps. The opposite of getting ready. No,
• 34:41
  Speaker 9: you get off your feet, you wait. Everyone's always checking
• 34:44
  Speaker 9: the radar. There's always a constant communication, so we're never
• 34:48
  Speaker 9: in the dark on any of that, so to speak.
• 34:50
  Speaker 9: But I think if you have the energy, you kind
• 34:53
  Speaker 9: of might go get a hit in the cage or something,
• 34:55
  Speaker 9: get a little extra session in, some.
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: Flips or tee work.
• 34:58
  Speaker 9: Other than that, you kind of just preserve your legs,
• 35:01
  Speaker 9: stay off of them a little bit, and just wait.
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: You're on standby, too. Well, today it's going to be
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: more than two and a half hours, the rain delay,
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: so we'll see if both teams handle that well. And
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: we're playing at Raitt Field, a ballpark that opened back
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: in 1991 after they... Made the move from the old
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: Comiskey Park here to the new one, and they've had
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: renovations since. Field dimensions, 330 down the left field line,
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: 377 to left center, 400 to dead center, 372 to
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: right center, and 335 down the right field line with
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: an eight-foot-high home run wall all the way around. And normally,
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: this time of year, the summertime heats up and the
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: ball carries very well. with rain today, somewhat chilly, and
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: a breeze that, at least right now, looks to be
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: blowing in in certain spots. Might be a little tougher
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: to hit one out here. A little bit. It was
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: nice before you guys got into town. What happened? You
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: brought a little bit of this weather with you.
• 35:58
  Speaker 9: It's been chilly a little bit, but no, it's... Again,
• 36:01
  Speaker 9: we've said it the first two games, this is a
• 36:03
  Speaker 9: hitter's ballpark, but..
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: Win or not or something like that. I think there
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: could be some action today. I want to see some action.
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: Speaking it into existence.
• 36:12
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: The White Sox playing great baseball here at home. They
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: come in a first place ball club. The Guardians one
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: game back heading into play today. in the American League's
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: Central Division. Umpires, home plate, Tripp Gibson. Marv Hudson, the
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: crew chief, is at first base. Nick Marley at second base.
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: Ryan Blakeney is the third base umpire. The Sox have
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: taken the field in their traditional home whites with the
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: black pinstripes, black trim. Guardians wearing their alternate road blue
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: jerseys today with the gray pants and the red and
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: white trim. And again, for the Guardians, this is the
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: end of a nine-game road swing. It has not been easy.
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: They dropped two out of three in Milwaukee, two out
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: of three in Houston, and they've dropped the first two here.
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: They will be a team that's happy to get back
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: home for sure. I think so.
• 37:02
  Speaker 9: It's always an off day and some home cooking does
• 37:04
  Speaker 9: everybody a little bit better when you get in your
• 37:05
  Speaker 9: own bed and get back to your routine that you
• 37:07
  Speaker 9: definitely have. It's a different way when you're on the
• 37:09
  Speaker 9: road and you're coming from a hotel room straight from
• 37:11
  Speaker 9: the bus to the field. It's nice to drive your
• 37:13
  Speaker 9: own car and get all that stuff going.
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: So let's get one before we go there. Yeah, the
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: challenge today, an opener day for the White Sox. They're
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: going to start Chris Murphy, a left-hander who normally works
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: out of the bullpen. Eric Fetty will get the bulk
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: of the innings, but they don't want to start him yet.
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: They'll see how far Murphy can go facing the top
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: of the Guardians lineup. That's one less time Fetty has
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: to do that. And for Murphy, this is appearance number 14.
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: He's 2-0 with an ERA of 5.27. And again, a
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: lefty with Fetty. being a righty, which is what they
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: normally do when an opener is called upon. Travis Pisano
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: will lead things off for the Guardians. What a road
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: trip it has been for Pisano, who's off to a
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: tremendous start in this, his rookie campaign. He digs in
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: from the left side. Today's first pitch is a strike
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: on the inside corner, and we are underway in Chicago.
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: 65 degrees. Here's the pitch to Pazana. Strike two called.
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: Two hour, 40 minutes. The rain delay today here in Chicago.
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: But these teams are going to get this one in,
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: it appears. Pazana with an 0-2 count. Murphy delivers. Breaking
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: ball called. Strike three on the inside corner. Pazana strikes
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: out on three pitches caught looking.
• 38:43
  Speaker 9: Well, it takes a little longer for some guys to
• 38:45
  Speaker 9: get ready than some other ones, but I thought that
• 38:47
  Speaker 9: was a good sequence by their pitcher right there. Kind
• 38:49
  Speaker 9: of mixed and mashed all the way through the first at-bat,
• 38:51
  Speaker 9: fastball away, slider away, and then kind of frozen with
• 38:54
  Speaker 9: the slider in. So it really didn't give them a
• 38:56
  Speaker 9: set or any pitch to kind of get going. So
• 38:59
  Speaker 9: good morning, good afternoon, good night, and we're on our way.
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: Brian Rocchio steps in, takes a breaking ball high and away.
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: Rocchio hitting. 271 with five home runs, 33 driven in.
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: Very consistent. over the season's first three months. Here's the 1-0,
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: swing and a miss, and it's 1-1. And we can
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: tell you early on, the first four innings, it's the Conrads'
• 39:24
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• 39:29
  Speaker 1: after this pitch. Murphy lets it fly. Fastball, swung on,
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: popped foul, and out of play down the right side.
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• 39:59
  Speaker 1: the 1-2. Swung on, yanked foul outside of third.
• 40:04
  Speaker 9: Your body just does feel different after a rain delay.
• 40:06
  Speaker 9: I think because it throws off your routine no matter what.
• 40:09
  Speaker 9: I think if you have your set routine where you
• 40:10
  Speaker 9: come into the field, you go from eating to stretching
• 40:14
  Speaker 9: to hot tubs to tea or to the cages and
• 40:17
  Speaker 9: then onto the field.
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: Here comes the 1-2. Swung on. Popped him up. Fouled again.
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: Out of play. First base. Come back in. Maybe get
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: a little snack in you. Shower. Get ready.
• 40:28
  Speaker 9: Start really warming up for the game. And so you
• 40:30
  Speaker 9: have your routine where you're kind of programmed out from
• 40:32
  Speaker 9: the moment you get there and you really don't stop
• 40:35
  Speaker 9: moving too much. But when you add a rain delay,
• 40:37
  Speaker 9: you're kind of then on the ground. Maybe you're watching
• 40:39
  Speaker 9: a show or something for an hour. You're just kind
• 40:41
  Speaker 9: of sitting there.
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: The 1-2, pulled foul over to the White Sox. And
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: it just changes everything.
• 40:46
  Speaker 9: My legs might feel a little bit heavier, or it
• 40:48
  Speaker 9: just throws it off, or you might be, you don't
• 40:50
  Speaker 9: know what to do to kill some more time, so
• 40:52
  Speaker 9: you're maybe doing too much and might have used too
• 40:54
  Speaker 9: much of your energy. So it does change your body,
• 40:56
  Speaker 9: and it's not an excuse by any means, but it
• 40:58
  Speaker 9: is different.
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: For creatures of routine, it does throw you off a
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: little bit. Here comes the 1-2 to Brian Rocchio. Swung on,
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: popped it up, foul, and an excellent plate appearance for
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: Rocchio continues. And today it looked like we were going
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: to start on time. They really didn't make a decision
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: to say, hey, let's hold it up until about a
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: half hour prior to the first pitch. Here's the 1-2.
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: Down low and outside for a ball. Well, they saw
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: the radar. I think I kind of agree with their decision.
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: I think it was beautiful for the first 30 minutes
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: and we're like, what's going on?
• 41:33
  Speaker 9: But I think once you start, you'd rather kind of
• 41:35
  Speaker 9: finish the game. You'd rather get through all of it.
• 41:37
  Speaker 9: I don't think they knew they would have had to
• 41:38
  Speaker 9: stop eventually if we had started on time.
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: Here comes the 2-2 to Rocchio. Outside and high for
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: ball three. So the count is full on Brian Rocchio.
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: And the next pitch will be number 10 in this at-bat.
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: Of course, Murphy's not going to go very far anyway.
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: The 3-2 pitch. Swing and a missed strike three. Got
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: him with the heap.
• 42:07
  Speaker 9: Good at-bat by Rocchio, making him earn it, working back
• 42:10
  Speaker 9: into a good count for himself, but I think he's
• 42:11
  Speaker 9: going to be mad at himself. He kind of missed
• 42:13
  Speaker 9: some good pitches over the plate there at that at-bat.
• 42:15
  Speaker 9: The ones that he sees, swinging at all the right ones,
• 42:17
  Speaker 9: I think he's like, man, I should have done something
• 42:19
  Speaker 9: with one of those pitches.
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: Now here's David Fry with two down and the base
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: is empty. Murphy with that good fastball, mid to upper 90s,
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: and he fires away low and in on Fry for
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: ball one. Here's the defense for the Sox. Antonucci in left,
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: Peters in center, Montgomery, Braden Montgomery in right, Jacob Gonzalez
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: at first, Chase Mydrop at second, Colson Montgomery at short,
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: Miguel Vargas at third. The pitch to Fry, outside and low,
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: caught by Kyle Teal in just his second game of
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: the year. And on the mound to start, Chris Murphy,
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: but we see Eric Fetty already warming up. in the
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: White Sox pen. He'll pitch the bulk of the innings
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: if he's effective. The 2-0 up and in for ball
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: three to Fry. David Fry hitting 2-17 coming in. Four homers,
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: nine runs driven in. 3-0 the count on him. Murphy
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: delivers and his fastball's a strike on the inside corner.
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: He's pretty firm at 98 miles an hour.
• 43:31
  Speaker 9: It is, but now I'm also wondering why use the
• 43:33
  Speaker 9: lefty opener for just Bazzana? Because Rocchio's a switch hitter,
• 43:37
  Speaker 9: isn't he? And Fry's a righty.
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: Here's the pitch. Swing and a miss. Strike two. So
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: it's a good balance of the lineup to start. You're
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: not gaining an advantage.
• 43:45
  Speaker 9: You're not facing three lefties out the gate or something
• 43:48
  Speaker 9: like that because of a righty pitching the longer of
• 43:50
  Speaker 9: the game.
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: Now the 3-2 pitch. Swung on, and there's a high
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: fly ball to right. Settling under it, Montgomery, the right fielder.
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: And he makes the catch for retired Fry and the Guardians,
• 44:05
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• 46:08
  Speaker 1: One of the top rookies in baseball, Sam Antonacci, will
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: lead things off for Chicago, facing Tanner Bybee for the Guardians.
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: In a scoreless game, bottom of the first inning, Bybee
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: lets it fly, and his first pitch is in there
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: for strike one. Tanner Bybee, 27 years of age, 6'2, 215.
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: Really throwing the ball well here, last several starts, and
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: really most of the season. He has been rock solid,
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: just hasn't had much run support. That's been coming along
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: a little bit lately. Here comes this pitch to Antonacci,
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: and it's swung on and missed. Antonacci hitting. 287, four
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: home runs,. 22 driven in. His on-base percentage. 386. And
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: the game-winning base hit Monday night. A walk-off two-run single.
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: Here's the 0-2. Upstairs for a ball. 1-2 the count
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: on Antonacci. Defensively for the Guardians, David Frye in left.
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: Stephen Kwan in center. Khalil Watson around in right. Get
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: to the infielders after this 1-2 pitch from Tanner Bybee.
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: High leg kick. It's on its way. And it's swung
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: on and drilled foul off to the left side. Now
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: to play. Kyle Manzardo at first. Travis Bazzana at second.
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: Brian Rocchio at short. Daniel Schneeman around at third. Patrick
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: Bailey catching. Tanner Bybee. Now Bybee winds it up. The one-two.
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: Swung on. Popped him up. Left side of the infield,
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: Rokio calls for it, and the shortstop makes the catch
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: for the first out in the inning. The numbers on
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: Tanner Bybee, 2-8 coming in after 16 starts, but his ERA, 4.03.
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: He goes close to six innings a start. Eight strikeouts,
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: three walks per nine innings, and again has thrown the
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: ball very well in the month of June. And he
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: goes to work now on Miguel Vargas. Right-handed hitting third baseman.
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: The pitch to him. Up high for a ball. No,
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: he's fun to watch pitch.
• 48:30
  Speaker 9: A lot of his stuff moves. He doesn't really throw
• 48:32
  Speaker 9: anything that kind of goes straight. So he likes to
• 48:35
  Speaker 9: make that ball dance a little bit. A lot of spin. Cutter, slider, curveball,
• 48:39
  Speaker 9: all different kinds of bend on it.
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: The 1-0. Breaking ball down low with the cutter that time.
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: And it's 2-0. He's been saying that the real key
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: that The four-seam fastball and the sinking fastball, that combination,
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: up high, down low, he's been able to throw for
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: strikes and really keep the hitters off balance. The 2-0
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: swung on. There's a chopper foul at home plate.
• 49:04
  Speaker 9: Well, the good thing with the sinking fastball, when he
• 49:06
  Speaker 9: has that two-seam movement on it, a four-seam almost comes
• 49:10
  Speaker 9: across like a cutter to the hitters. Because everything, speaking
• 49:14
  Speaker 9: from a lefty, everything's kind of diving into, diving into.
• 49:17
  Speaker 9: So one that goes straight almost looks like it's going
• 49:19
  Speaker 9: away from you there.
• 49:20
  Speaker 4: Time.
• 49:20
  Speaker 9: So it really has almost like a hidden movement to it,
• 49:22
  Speaker 9: or maybe just a psychological movement to it.
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: Now the 2-1 delivery. Outside and high for ball three.
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: Bybee's coming off a tough loss his last time out.
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: He pitched really well in Houston. On Friday night.
• 49:42
  Speaker 12: But.
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: Left with a lead. And then. The runners that were inherited.
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: Came in. And he took the loss. The 3-1. In tight.
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: Ball four. Vargas. Walks. With one out. Here in the
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: bottom half of the first inning. Close to Seamer right there.
• 49:58
  Speaker 1: And on the hands. Kind of could have gone both ways.
• 50:00
  Speaker 9: And we've been talking about it with all these challenges.
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: Is how catchers want to use them early in games.
• 50:04
  Speaker 9: If the situation is important enough. To use one of
• 50:07
  Speaker 9: the challenges on. Because you just can't be. Can't be
• 50:09
  Speaker 9: just wasting them early in the games. They've got to
• 50:11
  Speaker 9: have one in the pocket for later in the game,
• 50:13
  Speaker 9: and they've got.
• 50:13
  Speaker 1: To mean something, too. And it's still a work in
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: progress for a lot of teams on how they want
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: to go about it. Andrew Benintendi steps in. The pitch
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: to him. Swing and a miss. Strike one. He's the
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: DH today. Benintendi, the veteran outfielder, hitting.
• 50:30
  Speaker 2: 236.
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: Nine home runs, 38 driven in. Vargas, pretty good speed
• 50:38
  Speaker 1: at first. Vibing with a good pick-off move. Here's the pitch.
• 50:44
  Speaker 1: Fastball strike on the outside corner. 0-2 the count on Benintendi.
• 50:50
  Speaker 1: Did not play in last night's game. Guardians starting a
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: lefty in Parker Messick last night, so Will Venable adjusting
• 51:02
  Speaker 1: his lineup accordingly.
• 51:04
  Speaker 9: You got Rocchio right up the middle, so I'm guessing
• 51:06
  Speaker 9: he's going to be taking the throw from both the
• 51:08
  Speaker 9: third baseman and the right side of the infield here,
• 51:11
  Speaker 9: because they're shifted over with the lefty hitter.
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: Quick throw to first, diving back in is Farkas.
• 51:18
  Speaker 9: I was kind of watching Bazzana, especially with the guy
• 51:20
  Speaker 9: who spins the ball the way that Bybee does. You're
• 51:22
  Speaker 9: going to get a guy out in front, you're going
• 51:23
  Speaker 9: to get a lot more ground balls to the right
• 51:25
  Speaker 9: side and even the forehold, so they're going to move
• 51:27
  Speaker 9: the second baseman a little bit that way, and he
• 51:28
  Speaker 9: can't get there on time on that ground ball to
• 51:30
  Speaker 9: the left side, so you make the shortstop take it.
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: Here comes the O2 swung on yet foul over to
• 51:38
  Speaker 1: the Guardians dugout on that first base side send up scattering.
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: Had you bragging because he didn't move? That's toughness personified.
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: There you go, Boston edges. Day off, at least at
• 51:54
  Speaker 1: the start. We've seen he's great. If you're on the bench,
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: you're getting in at some point with the Guardians. Here
• 52:01
  Speaker 1: comes the O2 pitch. And that's upstairs for a ball,
• 52:06
  Speaker 1: one and two. No score, bottom half of the first inning.
• 52:14
  Speaker 1: Late start, two hours and 40 minutes, the rain delay,
• 52:17
  Speaker 1: so if you're just tuning in, that's why we're early
• 52:20
  Speaker 1: in this one. Here's the one-two from Tanner Bybee. Swung on.
• 52:27
  Speaker 4: Line.
• 52:28
  Speaker 1: Caught by Bazzano. Throws back to first. Double play.
• 52:32
  Speaker 9: And that's why you position them. That's why you move
• 52:34
  Speaker 9: guys around. That's where scouting reports come in handy. Position
• 52:37
  Speaker 9: them great for a line drive off one of the
• 52:38
  Speaker 9: spinners right there and able to get Vargas off.
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: The bag for the double play. That was fun. That's positioning.
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: That's scouting reports right there.
• 52:45
  Speaker 9: That's why you have the shortstop take those throws from
• 52:47
  Speaker 9: the third base and get to move a second base over.
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: And that ends the inning. There we go. Guardians back
• 52:52
  Speaker 1: in the dugout. Side retired. We head to the second.
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: No score.